/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

>>2785391
What a fucking mongoloid.

>>2785407
cute mongoloid

>>2785407
holy shit /beg/

>>2785408
>cute
>looking like it has an extra chromosome

Pick one.

>>2785410
Korean

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>>2785391
>>2785407
>>2785408
>>2785409
>>2785410
>>2785413

How's my redline sketch of her?

>>2785390
Anyone have the OP reference?

>>2785426

>>2782111

>>2785390
That's one hell of an awful boobjob

>>2785434
Thank you!

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do my values and colors look okay on this?

>>2785416
Made me blow air rapidly out of my nose

>>2785478
Kek. As long as someone enjoyed it

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first time poster
this was an attempt at a female figure from imagination, no reference
I sketched with a blue pencil before using pen, obviously scanner didn't pick it up

ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated

all my creatures end up looking evil. i just want to draw cute things

Not sure where else I could ask this but could I take pictures and sorta draw from them versus actually drawing everyday life things? I feel sorta weird just taking a pencil and paper out in public and drawing.

>>2785505
Yes, use photos. Just go in understanding that you won't capture the depth of what you're drawing as well as you could in person.

I'd say do both, fuck what other people think as long as you're not being a degenerate faggot.

>>2785505
What exactly is weird about it?

>>2785513
You're probably an autist and going to go give some horrible/creepy sketch to a girl with your number on it and hope she calls back.

>>2785518
This will only work if you have Ruan Jia-tier skill. I will work towards this goal now, thank you.

>>2785498
Not a bad attempt but the anatomy is pretty off in most places. The breasts are too low, even for a naturally hanging look. Shoulders are lopsided, they don't look like they're tilted yet properly aligned. No anatomy in the hips, the arms are bent at an incredibly awkward angle and I don't want to try explaining what's wrong with the legs. Everything lacks the illusion of 3D form as well. Some nice line work but much study is still needed before you'll draw a more convincing body without reference.

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trying skull and muscle face study

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Some attempts at perspective stuff.

>>2785407
back to /pol/ plz

>>2785570
Neat

>>2785571
Pretty great :^)

>>2785407
you're cancer. Enjoy obscurity you wretch.

>>2785571
good job anon now do ten more!

>>2785570
I've always been confused by the word study. Did you use an artists piece as a reference or several images depicting muscular and skeletal anatomy? Also what did you learn from this piece and how is it going to help you going forward?

has anyone here read jojos? doesnt the art have tons of fundamental flaws? am i mad?

>>2785588
Kek. You must be some fugly asian

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>>2785573
thank u bro

>>2785591
no i just saw this ref posted a while back and did my best to paint it

i dont really know the exact definition of study either but i always figured it meant copying/replicating something while "studying" it - looking at the anatomy, lighting and so on. thats a good idea with the several images thing ill try that next time

it helped me understand the bones, muscle and overall underlying structure of the face a lot better

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how would you go about drawing foliage like this? i dont mean the individual leaves i mean the stuff as a whole, like half a wall of it?

>>2785602
resizing it down to 1k pixels so all the detail is lost

>>2785602
Learn texture

>>2785613
any synonyms for that? texture is a bit vague.
alternatively, any good pdfs on it out there?

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>>2785390

how should one handle having a 'fragmented' piece from imagination but its imcomplete. for example, you have a really specific detailed head for a creature design you think is really cool but you mind is completely blank and cant visualize the rest of the body. it should be okay to work on just the head right?

>>2785617
I would suggest looking at a bunch of photos of creatures for inspiration and doing some studies of them to help you get ideas. Then do a few sketches of ideas for your original character. Things always look better when developed all at once rather than pieced together as you go along.

>>2785617
if you have creature as a whole but can only visualise the head, i think its the case that you also can visualise the rest. simply try harder.

close your tabs
close your eyes
close your ears
give it a minute or two just attempting it.

alternatively you only have the head, just do what fits.

>>2785619
good idea ill just get the head down and take a break and let it come to me later.

>>2785618
i tried doing that, my problem is i want the head to be high up with lots of body beneath the head so it literally looks down on you condensationally sorta like a t rex but i was it to have lots of mass directly behind it and above to, like a triceratops. shit makes no sense

>>2785595
nah im a fugly nigger. But nice try commie

>>2785627
Calling me a commie? Dude what? I'm an American lol

>>2785630
nice try shekelstein

>>2785626
Well if it's a really out there design all the more reason you should try to flesh it out as a whole rather than piece by piece unless you want some kind of effect of looking like it's stitched together or something. If you don't do studies of real creatures to help, which I still think you should to get extra detail, maybe you could look at some more abstract creature designs like from Monsters Inc or something like that to see how they've handled balancing what would be unbalanced creatures.

>>2785639
>abstract creature designs like from Monsters Inc or something like that to see how they've handled balancing what would be unbalanced creatures.
i think this is exactly what i need. thanks

>>2785633
But I'm catholic...

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>when you start planning shit after doing nothing but freehanding

>>2785644
>when you can't draw

>>2785643
sand cultists are all the same.

>>2785647
Well its more of a "catholic" kind of thing.

>>2785616
what?Gesture practice, Figure practice? What do you want ?

>>2785614
Please exscuse anons vagueness. You should do a texture study, where you try to recreate the texture using the medium of your choice. I would do several attempts and compare each to the original image and make changes accordingly!!

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the cutest thing i've seen in a long time.

I hate that i'm shit at art though,

>>2785680
your one is actually cuter than the real one

>>2785680
Nice direct paint over

>>2785685
sorry to hear that you have no any amount of draw skills

>>2785680
if you're shit, then what does that say about the rest of us hurhur?

>>2785685
if you think this is that good, your work but be below shit

>>2785680
>made the eyes larger relative to face and the gap smaller
>made the face slightly thinner
failed to capture her ugliness, NGMI

>>2785693
intentional probably.

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alright so i did this, go ahead and paint or is anything stupid wrong with it? i still need to do more to the creature on the bottom left

>>2785714
lol at the perspective on the thing sticking out of the ground there

>>2785718
are you talking about the ledge? ill just draw it out so theres an even gap across the two ledges. or is it the 3circle things? my justification is its bendings its 'neck' to the side so that i dont have to fix my sloppy perspective work

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Still trying to figure things out, but this is fun.

Just downloaded the Ctrl Paint videos on perspective in the Video Thread.

>>2785720
whatever that thing with three heads is

>>2785722
oh okay its supposed to be a carapace but i havent really thought out the rest of the creature. i guess ill fix it then

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I have no internet at home, but I can download youtube videos now
who's figure drawing series should I download

also I dont have much time so please hurry up!

>>2785725
loomis

especially his book about drawing hands

>>2785731
haha i actually have that book but thank you

burnt out on figures
burnt out on faces
can do perspective adequately.
shit lads, what am i practising?

>>2785739
colours?

>>2785740
i dont do digital so no

>>2785725
scott robertsons how to draw.(its on perspective)

>>2785744
Why do you have to do digital to do color?

>>2785746
doing colour with pencils is a fools errand imo. digital is 1000x better for it.

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Is this ugly motherfucker sitting in perspective properly? how bout his proportions? thanks /beg/, love you guys

>>2785760
The whole body is in 3/4ths view but just its head is a side profile.
>his proportions
They're what ever you want them to be.

>>2785750
Have you considered any kind of paint? Lots of people like watercolor for quick color on sketches. I used to use acrylic, myself.

>>2785772
i eventually plan to use digital so no im not interested in learning traditional paint.

>>2785777
Learning coloring and rendering in traditional media could go a very long way in learning to color digitally, but I can tell you've got your mind made up. Good luck to you.

>>2785796
i personally believe that my efforts are better spent elsewhere currently but thanks for the considerations.

still at a loss rn tho, i even drew animal heads today. not sure what im going to do tomorow.

>>2785805
Draw them again.

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Crit? Esp on how to make brushwork less hectic looking?

>>2785850
are you going for realism or cuteness? lips a bit smaller if cuteness.

nose looks like its slightly in the wrong direction.
ear too big maybe?

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>>2785852
she has Huge ear

>>2785853
my crit about the nose i think was wrong.

looks aight, try smoothing it now.

>>2785856
That is my problem, no matter how many times i "blend" the values together it always looks like that, i dont know if it's a porblem with my hardness of the brush or flow or what, i watch youtube artists on how they blend and somehow it looks super smooth

>>2785862
lower the opacity to make smaller changes i assume.

>>2785680
Hello Vetyr :3

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>>2782111
>>2785390
Good morning.

>>2785902
gross

>>2785902
unironically: Keys to Drawing

>>2785902
Holy kek that's bad also what anon said >>2785909

Also a ton Loomis and books in the sticky.

You'll make it bud just keep at it. At least it's not a stick figure.

>>2785902
awful

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>>2785907
>>2785909
>>2785913
>>2785918
Thanks guys. The road ends here.

>>2785920
hopefully the road to the wrong direction ends here

the journey starts here

>>2785850
>>2785852
there actually is an issue with the nose. you drew her nostrils the wrong way which is making the bulp tip part off and inturn the rest of the bridge

>>2785928
also its too small

>>2785928
>>2785929
thats for cuteness sake i think.

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Is it cheating when i use these pre made brushes for rendering?

>>2785940
yes, delete them now you faker

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haven't really drawn anything since I was 12

is there any merit to this piece?

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>>2782111
lol wtf - also pray for me

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>>2785969
this is closer to the actual size I draw btw, it's zoomed in there which shows more the lack of detail

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first gouache portrait study. pls does it look like her? yes i know i can,refine the hair but my brush blow ass

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>>2785975
and the ref

>>2785975

the eyes are off and her real face is more round, see jaws

>>2785975
it doesn't immediately register as scarlet johansson to me, no. the colors are fine and it's not god awfully terrible but study anatomy and do some sketches before your next painting.

>>2785982
>>2785983
yeah youre right. looking at the tumbnails i can see her face is elongated in my painting. and the jaw is sharper. not sure how that happened considering i check my outline over the monitor and everything lined up. i must have been off a slight bit and messed it up even more when i started painting. ooh well. im satified for it being my first gouache portrait. thanks for the feedback

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I dont understand colors. I have a good grasp on values yet colors are such fucking pain in the ass I dont want do to anything there.

>>2785994
you have it completely backwards you retard. your colors are fine but youre lacking in value ranges. dont be afraid to go dark

>>2785994
Try to make a grayscale version of that image, then turn the image grayscale to see how close you are, you may be surprised.

>>2785994
also her hair needs to come closer in on her face. like her face is too wide. and back to the vales. when you bring the hair on the left side of,her,face closer in youll notice the VALUES need to be darker. and i lied a bit about the colors. her skin could have a few more reds in it but skin is compicated anyways

>>2785997
>>2785999
I mean I am good at values when I do shit in grayscale. Of course my values are shit with colors, because I dont understand it at all.

>>2786002
well you do see that some areas are clearly lighter than they should be yes? the area under the chin on her neck,is,a good example. also literally eyeliner, which by defination is a fucking black line is missing. its stuff like that. overall your colors arent bad you just need a greater value range. if you really need to youre allowed to cheat and use the color picker to see how accurate your colors are

>>2786008
Okay, thanks. Should I read Color and Light by James Gurney to understand it better or should I just grind color pieces

>>2786011
ive read and honestly its okay i guess but ive heard anons on here say bad thinkgs about it that i can empathize with

>>2786011
oh and yes always do colors. the trick is finding good refs to study from. pics are so photoshopped that youre not,studying how,color actually works. for example my gouache painting just above. the scarjew ref is obviously shopped but since i know enough about how skin colors work i was able to work around it.
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>>2785393
I don't understand what is wrong, can anyone help me?

>>2786019
no construction whatsoever. loomis

>>2785760
>perspective
if you're worried about perspective it might be useful to put down an appropriate horizon line, or perspective grid on the ground etc. etc.

>>2785850
>how to make brushwork less hectic looking
I like your chunky brush style Anon. But if you want, just go over the piece with a softer low opacity brush and smooth out any unnecessary edges you see. It takes practice to figure out a good balance of soft blending and harder edges between values.

>>2785940
no, the right brushes can save you a shit ton of time if you know what you're doing with them. Texture brushes are the most useful imo. However if you overuse brushes that stamp trees or grass or whatever, it'll look lazy and bad if it's too obvious

>>2785971
>>2785973
>>2785902
why do beginners refuse to draw/show construction lines?

>>2785770
Thank you, I see now that everything reads flatter than it should. The head looks like a profile when my intention was to make it look tilted back, almost as if looking up like a bird would, or off in the distance with contempt. I think it's only a matter of fixing the jawline and showing more of the inside of the mouth. When I was drawing them, I treated it as one box when I should have treated it as multiple

as for the body, I have made a similar mistake. I was aiming for it to be in 3/4rths but angled down, as if we were looking more down at the beast. I need to alter it's back, I assume, to give it that feeling

I posted this before I went to bed after a really long day and worded my questions wrong. When I said proportions, I think I was just talking about the features in general. My biggest concern with this, aside from its proper construction, is that it is interesting
>>2786033
my underdrawing has the proper perspective lines, I guess I just worded that question wrong as well, I wanted to make sure everything looks like it's grounded on the same plain. That the beast was solid.

thank you for both of your help, I'm on my way to go alter its body to add visual interest. Any feedback about anything else is deeply appreciated

>>2785680

The Mouth is off-angle

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>>2782101

i know it doesn't look like her

Can someone recommend a good book for learning construction? I'm good at drawing still life/copying reference images, and I understand basic perspective. I want to start drawing from imagination, and getting more creative with reference pictures instead of just directly copying them. I will also start studying figure drawing/anatomy.

Also, what is your opinion on "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson?

>>2785899
thats not vetyr by a long run kill yourself desu kohai

>>2785680
Wow this very nice...like the way you pulled out color


Only major crit I think is the area between eyebrows and eye looks sloppy, and it throws off the area just to the left of the right eye(viewers perspective). And ear looks bit too big and off angle


Do you use Corel Painter? I very much like your style

>>2785661
Are you asking me a question

>>2785681
>>2785685
>>2785693
>>2786215
I wasn't expecting this feed back, thank you very much.

>>2786215
I painted this in krita.

>>2786209
ofc it is you nigger

>>2785391
where did you find these godly refs?

>>2785940
The real issue is that it might help you try to compensate a lack of rendering skills with fancy brushes.

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Can't shake the feeling that this looks cartoony. Am I still symbol drawing?

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>tfw your stuff is bad but at least you tried.

>>2786439
If its one thing i learned from /ic/ its that even how bad one of your try was, always post it in the beginner thread because they have always something to say that will help you.

>>2786362
well, you're a little bit better than me. so maybe no.

cant post art cuz got no pictures of it.

>>2786085
You are symbol drawing. you need to break down and understand the 3d forms of the feature of the face. Don't be afraid to draw construction lines. read loomis or watch proko's facial features videos to get started

>>2786362
>Am I still symbol drawing?
No you are not. Good job anon. If you post the source you can probably get more useful crit.

>>2786362
Can't tell without the ref, but there's a pretty stark contrast between the pupils and the whites of the eyes which makes me think there's still a liiiiiittle bit of symbol drawing going on. Same goes for the very segmented ringlets of hair and beard. But again, maybe it does look that way in the ref. The basic idea is to not draw what "should" be there (ie very clearly delineated pupils/lips/hair).

>>2786511
there's a threshold for that saying

especially when you're still symbol drawing

>>2786480
alright thanks for the feedback

>>2786511
You should NEVER and I mean EVER complete a drawing if your sketch/linework is not good enough. First fix that, it didnt work out? Fix it again, FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT, till its PERFECT. then u complete ur drawing by coloring it in etc.

Guys, I'm seriously asking, how can I actually start drawing? Like I'm trying to follow this tutorial, but it just looks so much nothing like the original that it makes me want to cry. How can I convince myself that if I keep on trying it'll look better?

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How'd I do? I want to start doing drawing over this sketch, but it feels too "manga-ish" to me, no clue how to fix it

>>2786532
what tutorial? you should probably be starting with keys to drawing. keep in mind that you're going to suck for a long time but remind yourself that the more work you put in the better you'll get. the beginning is rough but you can improve anon, believe in the Zhu that believes in you.

>>2786532
Same here, all the guides I have read all include "comicbook"-style characters and the videos that I have seen on youtube have artists that do mediocre or shit drawings at best, the mediocre artists do it fully by using references, barely any imagination. Which makes me quite sad that being a "excellent" artist someday is something that a tiny fragment of people can attain

>>2786534
> "manga-ish"
the fuck does this even mean you weeb

>>2786537
First I followed drawabox.com, and now I started Proko's how to draw people video series. I get the feeling that even if I understand that I should break down what I see to lines and curves, I just can not do it. Maybe I just suffer from symbol drawing, I don't know. I don't even know how much should I practice and how. Should I draw as the tutors draw? Then I just end up copying their image instead of paying attention to the original.

The best I could describe this feeling is being silenced: I want to express myself but I'm unable to do so and it drives me mad.

>>2786542
Listen faggots, you don't learn the same day. Draw, apply yourself, think about what you're drawing, and sleep well. Repeat for a few days, and you'll wake up finding that the shit you did a few days earlier is now a breeze.

>>2786541
That it doesn't look like a "realistic" drawing, as some of the drawings I have seen pop up in this thread. Not talking about the stereotypical manga drawing but still close to that kind of thing.

>>2786550
Well congratulations, it fits into the berserk/mushashi category. Keep it up.

>>2786553
Keep what up? I already implied I don't want to draw like that.

>>2786534
force yourself to draw the lines in one motion instead of scribbling
hold the pencil near the middle

>>2786554
Too bad, you're a minority of semi-realist manga artists. Render well and it won't matter. If you have a problem with it fuck you, I wish I illustrated like that but no I had to end up being a fucking painter when all I wanted was dank linework. Piss off.

fucking eyes
FUCK

>>2786558
I'll try doing that, thanks. I already try practicing doing single lines instead but they always end up scribbling, will try practicing from the middle now.

>>2786559
I was only looking for criticism as it is the point of this thread, if you want to draw like semi-realist manga artists i'd suggest try practicing drawings from those artists you named before.

>>2785391
more loomis

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>>2785391

>>2785500
post your demons

Is there some way I can take male and female skulls/faces and rotate them in 3d space? Like a realistic 3d model through flash or something like that.

>>2786671
http://www.boneroom.com/store/c56/Normal_Human_Skulls.html

>>2785680
>>2786251
Blog? What brushes did you use in Krita please?

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>>2785393

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>>2786679
should i really make a blog? i don't think i'm ready yet.
I'd like to build up my body of artwork first if that's ok.
I mostly just sketch and study idk if that's boring..

brushes:
>basic_block
>Basic_tip_gaussian

>>2786290
portraitsfordrawing tumblr

>>2786719
>>2786711
>lined paper

Good job trying but get some flat white stuff at least even if it's cheapo printer paper.

>>2786719
https://www.amazon.com/Sax-Plain-White-Newsprint-Newspaper/dp/B00ABY6B7G/ref=sr_1_2?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1482368855&sr=1-2&keywords=newsprint
500 sheets for like $ 8

>>2786780
>>2786783
not him but what's wrong with lined paper

>>2786795
It's going to fuck with your ability to look at the drawing. Especially sketches. Harder to critique the image with lines muddying it up more.

If you're a good artist it doesn't matter but just starting out the less distraction the better. Cheap white printer paper probably costs less too.

>>2786719
>>2786711
You're still symbol drawing. Read the sticky.

Does anyone have good videos on measuring? I can't redraw shit in keys to drawing because I keep making things bigger than they appear

>>2786805
Draw them upside down and maybe try grid lines that you can erase to start out. Don't rely on grids

>>2786805
http://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/

Go through all of this and have your eye metaphorically opened.

>>2786798
>>2786780
I always see people say this but when I was just starting out lined paper helped me out a lot. I started by copying other images and I was able to use the lines to more objectively measure where things were. I could draw lines across the image I was copying to see where things lined up, like the eyes for instance, and could make sure those lined up on my drawing. It was a pseudo grid system and worked well for me in terms of building observational skill.

>>2786810
that website is a fucking mess

>>2786827
who gives a fuck about the website? the videos are helpful

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>>2785391
an attempt was made

>>2786876
This is the pinnacle of symbol drawing.

>>2786813
Hand drawing your own grid over white paper VERY lightly and then the same sized grid by inches or centimeters or whatever size cube you choose is a much better option.

>>2786876
You're still symbol drawing like that other guy. Go read the books in the sticky post and the beginner links. Loomis books will help you. They are all free to read on the net.

>>2786884
>>2786889
I can't deny any of that
guess it's time to hit the books

>>2786885
Well I eventually did that later once I started in art classes. Using lined paper never held me back though. I'm a firm believer that even some of the most unlikely things can be a useful learning tool so I just thought I'd offer an alternate perspective on the matter, that's all.

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>>2785391
This fucked with me so badly

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two quesrions here. is my shitty gouache set up okay? also anyone used this book before someone gave it to me, its sort of like a keys to drawing for watercolor painting. it has good reviews on amazon but i want your take

>>2786261
i know youre skill level blind, but even on a stylistic level it's not.

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>>2785393
What's wrong with my drawing /beg/

>>2786964
I don't know, my neck snapped before I could critique it.

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>>2786964
Trying again, sure wish my scanner wasnt a hunk of shit

>>2786965
Assassination successful.

>>2786671
SketchFab is what you're looking for.

3d skull:
>>https://sketchfab.com/models/a04a252f8376401bad417f0d9f263b2a

All sorts of other cool reference there.

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>>2786975
Sketchfab is fab-tastic especially for beginners but it should be used sparingly and almost like a last resort. Knowing the form of what you're drawing through observation and reference goes a hell of a longer way than looking at what you wanna draw in the perfect orientation

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>>2785393

How do I go from drawing 30 minutes a day to 8 hours? How does one draw for 8 hours?

>>2786980
endurance isn't achieved over night. before you end your drawing session tell yourself to go for ten more minutes and gradually build up to 5+ hours a day.

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David

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>>2786993

>>2786979
snoke'd/10

>>2786967
Looks like you put some construction lines down but didn't actually use them.
Memes aside Andrew Loomis, Fun With A Pencil goes over this in an easy to understand way.
Also her shoulders are way too thin.

>>2786977
I don't see how that's any worse than life drawing from the exact orientation you want. I definitely think it's better for learning the form of bones than looking at photo reference.

Even better, make exercises for yourself, construct the skull from imagination and then compare to the model to see your mistakes. No one is saying you need to copy blindly

>>2787000
What?

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>>2787031

>>2787046
You're a fag for even knowing what that is. Just googled it. Some gay bullshit star wars made up for the social justice Disney editions of those movies.

>>2787055
Mad cuz bad

>>2787063
Not even the guy who posted that drawing.

>>2787063
i agree with the other man in this dispute

>>2787055
>fuck you for watching one of the highest-grossing movies of all time
stay mad

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>>2787068
>>2787055
>You're a fag for even knowing what that is.

>>2787067
>implying you're not still bad

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>>2785393

>>2787070
KILL YOUR SELF SENPAI

>>2787070
>Watching the televised jew

>>2787074
what happened to my emojis i posted

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>>2785391

>>2787077
>newfag

>>2787079
Head is too small for the eye nose and lips

>>2787080
try again

>>2787079
comparing them side to side i see so many proportion errors now. ><. The nose is definately too big and eyes are way off

>>2786979
You're not beginner

>>2787089
one day someone will say this to me

>>2787089
By their standards they may still be one. This is also an active thread more so and gets feedback faster.

>>2787089
So then, what am I?

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>>2785391
>>2785393
>>2782104
>>2782111

Drew these over the past couple days. Left is from Monday, two on the right are from yesterday, and the middle is from tonight. How am I doing?

>>2787099
Slow down and think about your strokes and how they relate to the shape and image.

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wtf I love watercolor now

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What do you think?

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>>2787127

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>>2787134

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>>2787137

>>2785390
>doing drawing on the right side
>do the viewfinder picture plane exercise where you hold your hand underneath and draw it with one eye closed
>hands get sweaty and it slips
>have to redo it.
LIFE IS SUFFERING

>>2787097
a beginner
>>2787089
yeah he is that eye is beyond how he got to rendering it without noticing that is ful retard

What makes you not want to give up /beg/?

>>2787165
>double negative
>burden of proof
rephrase your question then ask again.

>>2787165
Anime and memes.
And my waifu.

>>2787166
I realized it just after I posted it.
What inspires you to not quit drawing, /beg/?
Is that better?

>>2787169
>implies quitting it the default state
that might be why

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>>2787166
>autism

>>2787165
I gave up. I don't even draw anymore. I just come to /ic/ to enjoy other peoples' progress here and in the alternative art and progress threads. It's addicting for some reason.

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>>2785391
I lost the will to continue. Someone tell me what I did wrong.

>>2787195
You draw what you thought her face looked like. You narrowed it and made her less ugly and dinner plate faced than she really is. You drew your idealized version of her.

Too many middle tones. Needs more brights and darks.

>>2787165
Looking at the artists that I look up to and knowing that one day I'll be as good as that

>>2787204
just say the s-word, my man

he can take it

>>2787165
Naivete and stupidity, mostly.

>>2787217
>the s-word
>be as much of a cunt as me or ill complain again

>>2787217
Skill? Symbol drawing? Suck?

>>2787204
>>2787217
Yeah, mate. I came here to be bullied. Don't hold back.

>>2787223
skirmish

>>2787224
I don't know what he means by s word. Probably some ic meme or something? That was my genuine assessment I gave you.

>>2787226
serendipity

>>2787228
Sounds gay.

>>2787230
sounds?

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>>2787231
You must not be a native English speaker. Saying something "sounds gay" can be used the same way as saying "that's gay" or "looks gay" or "is gay".

>>2787235
speaker?

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>>2787237
got em, anon.

>>2787239
>>2787237
I'm not on here often so I must be missing the meme I should know.

Kek.

I hope I look stupid and you guys are getting some laughs.

>>2787165
what else could I do?
I also have spent too much time on drawing to give up now.

>>2787063
>>2787072
>>2787070
>sucks the hollykike tit
>thinks he's going to make it

if you lack the critical thinking to identify a brazenly shit film, you'll never be able to accurately replicate form or spot where you went wrong, sendpie

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an exercise from this watercolor book. im supposed to use a limited palette to understand. i have fucking idea what im doing

>>2787165
>>2787169
I can't achieve my goals or get anywhere meaningful in life if I don't make it, and I'm a low income lad who blew three grand on a cintiq so I might as well just drop it on my neck if I give up now.

>draw legs too long
>overcompensate
>torso too short
>overcompentsate
>hip too narrow
>shoulder too small
>calf too long
every fucking proportion is rubberbanding around as i overcompensate for it all in all directions. this is rough.

>>2787240
i made a stupid joke about "say the s-word" as in "symbol drawing" and the other anon kept pointing out words that started with 's' in your posts. haHAA

>>2787252
JOKES ON HIM

>>2787204
>>2787217
>>2787223
>>2787224
>>2787225
>>2787226
>>2787228
>>2787230
>>2787231
>>2787235
>>2787237
>>2787240
>>2787252
>>2787254

This is a cluster of (you)s.

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>>2787255
As you can see...

>>2787255
15 fucking posts closer to having to make a new op

and i contributed

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>>2787256
thats nice but check these

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>>2787256
>>2787258
I raise you.

>>2787261
you're pretty good
but check my 3

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>>2787257
>>2787258
>>2787261
>>2787261
>>2787264

Kek. I love this website.

>>2787251
Draw monsters

>>2787270
even monsters have a desired effect that proportion will determine.

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Been using stocks and drawing this character in given poses to get basic shit down before doing feet/hands.

Guy is pretty much a glorified ball-jointed puppet.

>>2787274
It would help if you actually drew out his simple shapes - cubes for torsos, cylinders for limbs, etc. instead of this flat shit you're doing now.

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proportions?

is REIQ a good resource?

>>2787460
How about making a judgment yourself? Instead of seeking approval from anonymous people on the internet.

>>2787491
He'll do for what im aiming for then.

>>2787380
everything would look so much better if you got your lines cleaner, although its a 'sketch'

>>2787487

You should look into head construction on the side when you're not drawing them from life.

Knowing the three dimensional shape of the face, even roughly, will help you with those angles. Definitely would help those noses from being so flat.

>>2787070
what a fucking tool

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>>2785394
Advices please?
I cant get it right
the worst problem is placing the features at the right place ,and the face shape, it really fucks with my brain...

>>2787001
Any other book that explains it? I never really understood anything in Fun with a Pencil, and I've been using Proko's Loomis explanations

>>2787073

I like it mang. Was gonna say the placement of the eye is wonky, but looking at the ref, she is kinda derpy to say the least.

Tried rendering?

>>2787583
You're also still symbol drawing. Read the links in the sticky. More loomis.

>>2787583
You need to learn to draw 3d shapes. Go and practice drawing spheres, cubes, rhombus etc

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Study from imagination. What is wrong with the anatomy of this torso? Are there any major flaws that you can see immediately?

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>>2787635
Here's the final image in the gif.

>>2787635
>>2787639
bretty gud

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>>2787635
>>2787639
Also, would love to get critique on these two images. I just can't get the serratus anterior and deltoid right.

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>>2787642
2

(don't mind the lower part, still working on getting the mannequin right)

>>2787243
youre a stupid nigger. identifying a reference and actually liking a movie that may or may nit be good arent the same retard. someone could have posted the leo character from the revanent or whatthe fuck ever and id at least be able to know whats hes referencing. this fucking good not only sucks at drawing but also is oblivious to the most basic fucking anything

>>2787580
oh no le downvote. fuck off vermin

>>2787665
fucking goon**

>>2787643
there should space between the pelvis and ribcage
>>2787642
is the muscle youre refering to the ones tucked under the pecs on the outside of the torso? you should draw the pecs first if so

>>2787687
I'm talking about the green muscles

>>2787695
for the top pic, her raised should is turned away yet youre showing the same amount of muscle. for the bottom pic, using the ribcage outline as a reference, the muscles arent even drawn the same length. one comes right up to the ribcage line the other stops a bit before

>>2787695
as for the deltoids, the deltoids are three heads. one of them you shouldnt be able to see, so you should be showing two separately defined muscles.

>>2787724
>>2787724
>>2787724

>>2787724
>>2787724
>>2787724

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>>2785398
Is this correct?

>>2785416
Perspective's off. Symbol drawing. Poor construction.

>>2787968
>taking the bait

>>2788203
>taking the bait