Draw Thread

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>>2778980
any crit/direction appreciated

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study for study thread

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Done with this page.

>>2778983
your room's perspective seems the biggest problem here, make the human guy's legs longer and also give a lightsource to your painting, lighting seems too ambiant.

>>2778983
the perspective of the guy in glasses looks super fucked up. Is he supposed to be a halfling?

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>>2778991
the left side of the forehead seems to be jutting out a bit. just my two cents

>>2778995
yeah he was supposed to be little, i think i fucked it up a lot
>>2778993
duly noted, thanks

>>2778993
I think you did pretty good on a lot of these. the only one that seems off is the rightmost one of the series of three on the bottom left of the page. That side mouth seems off

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>>2778983
also is the image better in general if i ditch the other guys?

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Criticism very much appreciated, lads.

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>Please make sure your posted image is clear, DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, and that any unused space is cropped.
why?

other than the orientation thing.

>>2779011
so people with third world internet connections can participate

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>>2779003
Yes, but mainly for the fact that the other figures don't seem to be drawn in the right perspective. Reminds me of the horizon issues in this Loomis page I've attached

>>2779003
I like how it looks with the other guys, but the perspective looks too fucked...
so this would be better on the virtue of looking less wrong.
best would be to figure things out a bit more properly to fix the whole thing, but obv it'd take more time and would be less spontaneous.

>>2778991
your understanding of forms is lacking.
try to understand the angles that lines truly have on the plane as a projection of these forms.

>>2779011
because those without addons may have trouble seeing your image directly, and those with crappy connections can also see your image without waiting 5 seconds.
also this is an anime-free thread, shoo shoo

>>2779006
i cant really tell what im looking at

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>>2779012
I don't care about those people

>>2779018
an autist hoping for sweet artscambux.

>>2779019
Damn right. Can't even make porn money anymore because they can charge half as much and actually live off of it.

>>2779016
>>2779015
yeeah i'll take some time to try fixing it more.
thanks for the img

>>2779025
first-world countryside has third-world connections, so it's not just a case of caring about pajeet.
Also, stop shitting on the thread, these are the rules of /ic/s elder gods.

>>2779011
then don't you retard, post it sideways 3000x3000

>>2779016
>your understanding of forms is lacking
do you think the larger forms are wrong? skull shape and whatnot
I haven't studied many heads so I got a little lost with smaller forms like nose and brows

>>2779003
Psst, what brush?

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I humbly submit to you my latest and greatest for critique /ic/ sama.

>>2779074
Go back to anime thread.

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what do you guys think of this?

>>2779164
breasts too low, ass is too ball shapey, her right arm is too far on ther right

>>2778980
Draw Thread

>More like pioneer thread kek

>>2779074
>second of dec.png
it's the 15th and you've only drawn twice this month?

>>2779164

If you wanted to make her look like she was obscured by fog you're doing good, but I'd recommend pushing your values / edges a bit harder anyway.

>>2779225
that's 2 more than most of us do

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hello

>>2779282
you really need to mirror this. the face looks super crooked

>>2779282
everything on the left side of her face is way higher than the right side of her face. eye, cheek bone, ear.

>>2779308
>>2779311
maybe it has something to do with that massive fecestumour.

>>2779321
or maybe you are looking for excuses to not fix the face

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Is this right?

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trying to learn to use only the hard round brush.

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>>2779324
>>2779321 wasn't me

>>2779308
>>2779311

I wanted her head to be slightly crooked (or tilted), but the jawline really didn't line up, not too sure. Does this read better?

>>2779345
the distance of the jaw to the cheek on the right side is much shorter thanon the left side
i see that the eye is supposed to be stretched a bit but the beginning of the eye (the eyeline basically) doesnt like up logically
did you mirror it?

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crit, advice appreciated /ic/-sama

>>2779351
stop chicken scratching

>>2779351
go into the pornthread, degenerate

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>>2779349
Is this better with regards tot he eye? I do mirror, but I think maybe because I continue working on it while it is mirrored it loses its effectiveness for me or something.

>>2779225
Yeah it takes me about 5 days to finish a drawing. 1-2 days of the underdrawing, and then about 3 rendering. I do about 4 drawings a month.

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drunk+photoshop wip . i like it sofar

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>>2779426
wip?

I like it too anon

>>2779426
i am glad. any adidas what suuld i add?

>>2779439
more buildings/industrial shite in the background I'd say. at the minute it looks like two random buildings in the middle of h*cking nowhere

>>2779432
>>2779426
i mean, you

>>2779445
builidngs are floating, like on clivebarkers undiyng. that wiierd part

>>2779448
where did they come from? they decided to go on a visit to the hills?

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what's keeping me from making it? am i delusional? please, end my life.

>>2779449
goblinfag have powers to teleport them through magic asshole into the dragon age . he also mocing knight with pikacu. he is a spacefaggot

>>2779454
i like it alot. my advice to you, is to draw everyday one piece done. dont focus on details, and dont zoom. use references. sory for anglish. i am from anrktica

>>2779454
>making it
This is different for every single person, and no one knows who you are, or anything about you. Why would you assume we can help you answer this without any information?

What are your career goals?

>>2779342
I like the movement and energy of your strokes

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humbly seeking critique

>>2779426
good shit, i like the colors. i think my problem with the buildings is in the composition - the two characters create a nice triangle composition pointing into the forest, but the building in the background is placed perfectly between them. i think i'd like it more if you played with the placement of that building.

>>2779426
wow you really gave up on life, huh.

>>2779454
you're about 10 years off. but you'll make it if you keep on going.

>>2779473
thanks. I want to add some playgrounds with kids, and lot of fog, dust, sun light on left building and people floating around, detail, etc. but id also like to depict the transparentjewgolumboi entity. and id like t ohear some ideas, to what this goulm can make in his safezone

>>2779472
usually when there that much exposure on anybody, their eyes are squinted or closed because it probably hurts their eyes? or is she invincible to extreme lighting exposure?

>>2779491
what do you mean

>>2779395
this is fucking sick man. I think you know what you're doin 2bhonest

>>2779470
forgive me, i am a fool
I'd like to work for riot games someday.

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>>2779504
these are the official requirements to become a concept artist at Riot.

>>2779502
Thanks, I really appreciate it!

>>2779532
Oh thats all it takes? Ima just quit my job and practice for 10 years, no problem. Just have to be extra ordinary at every thing.

>>2779532
Who's dick do I need to suck to guarantee a job? I'm willing to climb the latter.

>>2779563
git gud you fucking casual

>>2779561
>>2779563
be fast at sketching, collab with people, draw as good traditionally as you do in photoshop and 3D, be flexible, master anatomy, and be at least a casual gamer.

that's all.

>>2779497
good point

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I can't paint. Help.

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>>2778980
quick pencil sketches of ships. I want to do a shipwreck painting, but need to practice my drawing. Anybody got some good ideas on ships?

>>2779621
Are you 8?

>>2779472
It is a good composition in terms of her being off centered. The painting needs something else. Seems like an incomplete message is being conveyed.

If you are trying to make the piece impressionist style then there needs to be more color and hint of shapes in the neck piece.

You might try adding the complimentary color to her shirt to create some conflict in the painting since the blue background. Her shirt sprinkled with Orange shapes might add a layer of complexity.

>>2779630
I'll try your suggestions- thank you for taking the time to give them

>>2779621
off to the beginner's thread with you, matey.

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I need anatomy help, why do the shoulders look flat? and is the head too big?

>>2779707
is that supposed to be the human cousin of gondola?

>>2779164
Her arm need more curve

>>2779454
Was this referenced? If it was, you're 10 years off like that other guy said. If it wasn't then it's not really enough to tell. Many pro can't do shit without referencing the ever living shit out of their images. Not like you're pro level, just saying.

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I drew some sexy goku and angel

>>2779825
it's from imagination.

I know what you mean though, most pros just do 3d/photo paintovers.

I'll be back eventually, just wanted to say thanks and all that.

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>>2779504

>>2779532

ugh my ex boyfriend who threatened to kill me works at riot. i am still avoiding artstation and most other art forums because he's fucking everywhere

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Crit appreciated.

>>2779924
post his work

>>2779924
Your fault for being gay.

>>2779927
It looks like Churchill. That's a good point.
Now, push your drawing, just don't leave unnecessary stroke (i.e outline of nose)

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>>2779532
Places like Riot and Blizzard are a mystery to me, I feel as if they'd be a fantastic experience for 1-2 years but after that you should have extracted a good deal of knowledge and aspire for more. I say that as they seem like creative blackholes for the majority of the incredibly skilled artists there who now have no personal voice what so ever.

Glassdoor also paints an almost cult like mentality at Riot that sounds like a cesspit for anyone not drinking the koolaid, it must be a nightmare to speak against that hivemind if you're in the thick of it.

>>2779426
How many photos are in there?

>>2779946
> I'll take "what are sour grapes" for $500 Jerry.

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>>2779928
>post his work

Fuck it, why not. Here comes a blog post

He's polite, but behind closed doors I was his punching bag. He never said anything good about anyone, had an obsessive amount of resentment towards his stepsister, and complained that girls reject him due to his height and dick size (I didn't ask, he brought the subject up himself). He'd borrow money from me all the time.

He ripped on me a lot including my art, and not in the bantering way. Yet he'd come crawling into my arms sobbing with TEARS IN HIS EYES when he bitched about what a bad artist he was. He was the epitome of tortured artist, pushing himself and grinding it which I admire but damn, nothing I said helped him when he wallowed in self pity. I stopped talking about art with him because it got nowhere, and then he started saying that I wasn't supportive and that I didn't care about him. Like bitch, really?

idk why I put up with his shit for so long. He started fights over everything. He installed a recorder in my car one night and listened to the conversation I had with a friend, and lost his shit when he found that I was planning on moving. I am surprised he didn't kill me right there and then.

He started throwing my shit out onto the streets and I was like fuck it, I am done. I left that night to a different town, slept in my car for a couple days. He sent emails begging me to come back and sent money to my bank for over a year since I left, even tho I never responded. It only stopped once I closed my bank account. He's attractive and hard working with a diverse portfolio, and he wouldn't have a problem getting girls if he wasn't completely fucked in the head. All his problems were in his head.

>>2780027
>his work
>400x305
>looks like a PS2 game
also
LONDON?

>>2779854
>sexy goku

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Charcoal practice

Someone was bitching on facebook a while back about how people are constantly loud and rowdy and shit in the Riot office. Living up to the company name I guess.

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frame study

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>>2779707
that's because you gave him no clavicles and started painting before having a clear idea of how the body works.

I suggest studying bridgman, he's perfect for those kind of blocky shapes when constructing the body.
Try to block simpler forms that work in space and pose in front of a mirror to get a clearer idea of what you wanna do.

Also, if you're not already doing it flip your image every once in a while to refresh your point of view.

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Only coloured these recently

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Boy! Water is hard!

>>2780027
>All his problems were in his head
>He installed a recorder in my car
He sure as fuck sounds mental.

>>2780299
I like this, but atleast use a straight edge for the horizon, its wobbling is making me anxious.

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study so far

>>2780104
blog? nice redline style. did you have a favorite reference book/tutorial when you started learning anatomy/drawing bodies. Or is this the result of lots of figure drawing?

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>>2780104
oh man I can't thank you enough for this! I flipped the canvas a thousand times and couldn't see what you pointed out.

>I suggest studying bridgman
I did...2 years ago what I learned didn't stick since i was more into creatures and didn't draw humans much. I do plan to read it again now that I'm back drawing humans.

I will keep working on the painting till I reach my limit again.

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today's doodles

>>2780387
so, do you have a blog or not?
pretty nice as usual.

>>2780395
yeah it's evaneley.tumblr.com
and thank you

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wip
using >>2777985 as referene

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>>2780343
yaow12.tumblr.com

The 2 loomis anatomy books are ok if you're a complete beginner, personally I like the hampton method, he gives you a step by step way of doing things that once you incorporate it complete changes the way you approach drawing bodies, it goes something like

Gesture

Connections/movable masses

Landmarks

Perspective

Anatomy

Then there's bridgman but don't just mindlessly copy him, try to do this
http://aartventure.blogspot.com.ar/2014/03/studying-bridgman-properly.html

copy, then look up reference that matches what you copied, understand how the shapes bridgman gives you work and move once the body twists.

Krenz has some good stuff too, he's excellent for understanding simple shapes in perspective, I'd recommend getting down his anatomical model right before trying to move into any sort of deatil.

And the most important aspect, study from life, copy real people, watch closely how they move, how weight balances, every person you see is a moving reference sheet, train your eye too see this things.

Just to give you an idea this is the kind of stuff I did before I started taking practice seriously, I'd do hunderds and never understand why they were wrong.

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>>2780430
you're not good enough to be giving this kind of advice

>>2780450
Yes he is.

>>2780450
you judge if an advice is good or bad by logic you shouldn't judge it based on the artist level and he gave solid advice

>>2780450
Wow, high standards huh anon? PYW then, master

>>2780450
get that dick back in your mouth bitch.

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>>2780306

Thanks, and yeah ought to have fixed that now, still can't get the water right tho! Oh well

>>2780500
make the shadows stronger and a bit more saturated, right now everything looks kinda flat [spoiler]also where are the floating wailord[/spoiler]

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Does she looks cute?
Also i would appreciate very much criticism

>>2780590
you should not try to paint on a white background buddy
otherwise i think you should work on your brushstrokes, are you using airbrush? it looks sharp and soft in the wrong places.
the eyes just look emotionless and dead and the eyelashes look a bit too scribbled

>>2780600
Yeah, I'm triying to make a background but i havent finished it yet, I'm working hard in my brushstrokes but SAI is hard.

And about the eyes, emotionless and dead is what i was aiming for, but I agree the eyelashes looks like shit, any tips or tutorials?

>>2780636
>SAI
why even draw?

>>2780636
dude thats not what i mean
when you paint something you should not start with a white background
dont really have anything on the eyelashes specifically but the eyes look pretty flat, basically the lower ones just come out of the white of the eye
idk how to put it into words man
if i had time id do an overpainting

>>2780645
Oh, ok thank you very much, i will try something the next time.

>>2780642
I find it more easy than Photoshop

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>>2780425
Done for now.

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>>2778980
Gestures very quickly done, thoughts on my form?

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Westworld fanboying right now. Also, which leg do you feel would be better here, feeling like 2 is probably more accurate perspective wise, but 1 give a better silhouette or something.

>>2780333
looks like she got a stroke

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Doing a basic photo study

>>2780715
fantastic job man!!

>>2779006
very naiz

>>2779019
not surprised that anime fag would be the one who doesnt care about anything relevant

>>2779621
Google Image Aivazovsky and William Turner.

>>2779618
Those forearms are looking MASSIVE in the lower half! Probably ought to check your foreshortening.
Is there more, or are you just starting this?

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Haven't painted in two years, just got a tablet. Wip.

>>2779057
yeah, not dead wrong, but still hampering you. if you manage to get around that you'll make a jump in ability.

>>2779472
I'm gonna go opposite of what the other guys said, the overblown exposure gives it a very illustrative and subtle feel that I find extremely appealing.
but it's not for everyone and it's not the type of look that /ic/ looks for; if you want to follow /ic/'s advice, you'd better start from scratch and look at loomis before starting.

>>2780398
thanks!

>>2780794
mediocre? some elements like eyes just scream symbol drawing.
but you're on the right track.
Keep in mind that animals have some distinctive skull shapes and curves that make them distinctly recognizable, but that may be hard to pin down.

>>2780930
construct the shapes, then paint. you're not good enough to just jump right in, so all features are not right.

>>2780998
love it. post again.

>>2779342
>trying to learn to use only the hard round brush
Why? What's the point of that?

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>>2779006
seizures symptoms

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My god this is frustrating.
How do you people make digital painting look so effortless, do you just polish turds until it "clicks"?

>>2781176
I don't like phrase "polishing turds". You MUST spend more time on something to learn and know better what do you need do later. Otherwise you'll have a lot unfinished works.

>>2781176
us harder brushes

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study, I know there's a bunch of things I could fix but I'm trying to limit my time

>>2781152
I was going to comment your work in /las/ thread, but I guess I can do it here as well.
Cast shadow should have sharper edge, whitish bowl at the bottom should have darker core shadow, and adding cast shadow from the whole object on the ground would help with showing form of this object. And those black outlines look really out of place, cartoonish even.

I would suggest reading "How To Render" by Scott Robertson, since you're interested in industrial design.

>>2781210
very nice anon

>>2781210
that looks great

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GIirl shoulders kick my ass. My women either come out melonheads or dudes.

>>2781232
Go to beginner thread or, if you insist that you know how to draw, to the alternative stylization thread. You'll find them in catalog.

And it's shit, read sticky.

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took inspo from this post >>2781295

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>>2781382
The background, now

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>>2781394
i-i.....

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>>2779618
>tfw hyped to read more

I've got too many questions now

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85% or so done
(Please be nice)

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>>2780356
progress

>>2780988
Just starting. Hopefully publishing the first 16 pages in a webcomic at the start of the year.

The bottom does need work, tried to get the camera on the table, but I'm at the point where I've given up, and moving on to other pages.

>>2781450
This has to be bait

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Any halp with this?

>>2781461
?

>>2781480
lacking focus, make the snowmen and tree a bit smaller and dull out the colors the further things are from the front.

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>>2781509
kay!

progress on that.

>>2780463
>>2780469
>>2780470
>>2780473
autism

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Gave up tips besides burning and starting over

>>2781569
brighter brights

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>>2781569
You should use your darkest darks more sparingly. Specifically, I think that they should be reserved for the shadows of the buildings that are in the foreground (or whatever is in the shadow of the cliff), places like that. As it is the comp is very dark, even for what I think you are going for.

Consider lightening the whole piece up.

>>2781569
>>2781584
needs more contrast in both saturation and hue

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I dont know how to... anything
help

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Any tips on drawing hair?

>>2781351
almost cool, maybe a little more indication of the shapes

>>2781641
nigga did u just paint over the other one? it looks like a filter

>>2781667
Nope, just a lots and lots of measuring. It took me a while.

>>2781641
>>2781670
i saw this on las and was going to go over to the thread to tell you how great this looks. though idk the value of measuring your studies, will that really be any use to you when you're drawing on your own? better to learn to draw as closely as possible by observation alone. other than that there's not much to say because you nailed it identical to the photo. if i wanna be nit-picky, the eyes on yours are not as realistic as the read because the highlights are too strong

>>2781674
>was going to go over to the thread to tell you how great this looks
Thanks! That's appreciated.

>though idk the value of measuring your studies, will that really be any use to you when you're drawing on your own?
Well, a lot of it translates to drawing from life (like comparing angles, looking for negative shapes etc). And drawing from life is necessary to get into any art school - I'm thinking about going to one.
But honestly, doing a study like this just seemed like a nice intro to digital rendering.

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Page 2 WIP.

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warming up to get ready for a still life painting. the last one took a lot out of me so i've just been doing hand studies. this page came out alright, even if the bottom right one was a little too ambitious.

i have the opportunity next year to teach a drawing course... should i do it?

>>2781844
dubz and he's back.

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Tried to do 4 at once.
Started this morning. Tried some experimentation on the Red Bole canvas. Figured it would be easier to paint gifts than go to the store for some crap they will toss. This is after about 5 hours. Each is an 8 inch by 10 inch canvas. Acrylic is the medium.

>>2781921
The sky in the right upper corner looks really nice... Other than that... well

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I don't whether I should go to the beginner thread or not

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>>2781212

>>2781210
can you post the ref

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study

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Somebody posted this in the last thread asking for advice.

Dude use the lasso tool for the hard edges and then block in the values and use the mixer brush as a smudger to soften edges where you want to, also give more consistency to the background, paint the whole thing with a solid color with a very slight darkening near the focal point which is the torso/head, and spend more time on the block in stage so your figure looks more solid, good luck!

>>2781223
>>2781228
thank you
>>2782033
It's in the ref thread
>>2778036

>>2780590
The head is also too big for the body

>>2780590
And the neck too long

>>2782282
the trunk looks a bit flat make sure your hatching follow its form, other than that it looks good. Do you have a blog?

>>2782296
Thanks for crit. No I don't have a blog.

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>>2782317

Like the other anon said think more when you do the hatching, also the tree shape could be more dynamic and better

>>2779003
>solving problems by deleting rather than fixing shit perspective

That's ic for you

>>2781569
TWOH THE FIST OF KURT PUNCHES THROUGH YOU!!!

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Working on this study with a warm palette, need to still clean up a lot. Any advice would be helpful, thank you!

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>>2782335
you need to use sharp edges in appropriate places

>>2782600
see >>2781293

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About 2 hours into this plein air piece

>>2782644
>DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, and that any unused space is cropped.

>>2782710
>PostingfromaniPhone.jpg

>>2782717
>it's not an excuse you fucking retard

>>2782717
nice bait, my guy

>>2781628
Structure problems, forget about the coloring and focus on learning human/animal anatomy.

>>2779493
How do you know the exact years?

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Tips about making better still life drawings would be appreciated.

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i drew my bloated potato of a head. i feel so fat :(

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hlep

>>2782906
Pirate photoshop.

>>2782910
i did. photoshop runs at what seems to be 15 hz, which is another kind of 'unusable'
paint.net crashes on startup... gimp is trash, krita has become corrupt and won't reinstall correctly

but yes photoshop just has severe lag as if i'm running it inside a vm for some reason, even after dedicating ram/disk properly

>>2782906
check your stabilizer isn't too high, mine used to be around 4

>>2781428
try to resize the face, so that it fits the head properly

>>2782961
it's quite clearly set to 0

>>2782600
these skin tones hurt me
please really look at photos and try to understand it better
its so muddy and grey and lifeless and overshaded
plssss

>>2780998
Change the sky, man, it's throwing me off

>>2783000
I love this, more please?

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>>2783022
More?

>>2783073
Of course. Or just a blog.

>>2783078
Ahh. Well I don't have a proper one set up quite yet.

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meh, should probably remove the hat completely or replace it, doesn't have the same impact from this angle.

>>2783082
fuck you, then.

>>2783082
>>2783104
I didn't say this, just to let you know. Shared anonymity can be terrible.

>>2783103
i hate to be THAT guy...
but why is this naked hairless bleached white man holding a fedora and a revolver with assembly line machines around him have one leg lower leg that looks like a hairy pussy?

im sure you get that question all the time though.

>>2783104
Haha
>>2783113
Ah. Gotya

>>2783114
oh yeah probably should have linked it to the previous post, i'm westworld fanboying right now, so if you didn't see the show it would be kinda weird indeed. Also, those are his muscles..there's gonna be a machine there too.

>>2781428
I fell the nose is too big

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did a more accurate self portrait

>>2783221
>>>2782100

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another photo study

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i did that in 10 hours, is it too much? Most of it (8 hours) went to measuring

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Hey,

Gotta do a card illustration thing for some dudes. I'm just nailing down the composition and shit. She's supposed to be some kind of dragon queen or something. I'd love some feedback from you beautiful motherfuckers. I love you all. Heil Hitler and merry christmas etc.

>>2782913
anon, at some point you should buy a new computer.
you could use mypaint while waiting, it's very lightweight.
if it's still not enough use a lightweight linux distro, and mypaint/gimp.
It can give new life to an old machine.

>>2783246
pretty good. he seems to be twisting his body, esp left shoulder.

>>2783435
>10 hours
fuck that's some dedication.
but yes it's crazy to spend that much time on something like this.
you're much better off spending 10 hours on construction (loomis, hampton, whoever tickles your fancy) or value master studies that will give you a more whole understanding of values.

>>2783529
for a card, you want your thumbnail to read very well as it's printed at a small scale. Does it?

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>>2783530

You're right. Doesn't read well enough atm. I might want to bring most of the contrast into her face and tiddies. I can't really zoom in as the dues said they want a dragon in the background and a burning city (haven't really done that yet). My main reference for the final lighting is this image from Dave Rapoza. Thanks a lot for giving me feedback. I really appreciate it!

>>2783435
what's the point of measuring it for so long, isn't this a value/light study?

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>>2783533
a dragon? it looks like aphex twin's face!
second important thing is to think about the format.
you should spend some time working the the foundations of your image, so do very simple thumbs like pic related to get your values and composition organized first.
otherwise, you might spend hours rendering a beaufitul hoe and then notice what's wrong.

...and if you post these early stages asking for directions you can usually get some useful tips

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>>2783550

Aye! Thanks a lot for your feedback man! I did do the simple thumbnails stage for the dudes I'm doing this for and this (my image) is what we landed on. I'm not saying that it's good or anything but I'm just going to have to do the image that I'm doing right now because they like it and I don't have a lot of time.

You're also right about the dragon. The one I have in the background now is just a 10 min. placeholder. I've been looking at Piotr Jablonski's (The image included in this post) dragon thingy for compositional reference but I prefer your idea of doing a whole winged dragon thing with more breathing room for the BG and the chick. I like your composition and I'm going to take it into account while doing this shit. And yes "you can usually get some useful tips". I fucking love /ic/. This is literally the only place in the whole interned where you can get "useful tips" if you can take it.

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>>2783550

Did a quick rendering of a dragon in the BG similar to your feedback. Better?

>>2783591
Your values should be pushed a bit more in the foreground, and lightened a bit in the background.

honestly, I think >>2783566 would fall into what people would call chinese over rendered crap. values are very messy, and there are a number of choices that are hard to justify, all buried under pretty meticulous work.
you're much better off taking inspiration from rapoza; even if I prefer the chinese, you want to take inspiration from something that is technically good, because you can transfer ability on any style.

>>2783599
handles in extreme foreground look out of pers
I I like it, but I don't know if it's supposed a fantasy or cartoony piece
you could spend a bit more time on anatomy

>>2783591
not original replyer, but it looks good so far! Definitely better than before.

>>2783599
That's pretty, just need to point out some stuff, if you don't mind. The head is too big and the hand and feet look a bit bad ( not terribly bad just, there is this stage every artist has where they tend to make hands and feet in a bit of a simple, have to show everyting position, you are currently doing that.) Easiest thing you can do with the hands and feet is just take a photo of the position and use it as reference for your painting and in spare time just do a bunch of hand studies. I did that and hands are the most fun in the world for me now.
Overall the painting looks good, but I would add a bit more contrast in value, make the darks a lot darket and make lights lighter. Your painting is going to look a lot better! I like it so far though, nice pose, nice composition.

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>>2783599
>>2783603
I just remembered Algenpfleger has a similar pose in a painting! Maybe it's a decent ref

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>>2783601

Thanks for the feedback man. I know what you're saying when you're talking about "Chinese over rendered crap" but I don't really agree with you on what you said about Joblinski's work but maybe I'm just a bit of a fanboy. Most of his stuff is pretty subdued and he's not Chinese. But yeah. Rapoza's much more up my alley and I fucking need to stop looking at other peoples shit anyway.

>>2783603

Thanks man! Painting is fucking hard.

>>2783599

Definitely listen to:

>>2783601
>>2783603

I did two quick paintovers on your work because I really love what you've done so far. I hope you don't mind. The first one is the "quick and dirty way" of making shit look good in a forest and I'd probably just go with it. Have light coming through leaves and shit so you can get that fun scattery light all over her. You can literally choose where you want the light to hit because "Well you know the leaves in the trees were like that". It really gives you a lot of control!

Image II is just the same thing without the scattering. I think I added too much contrast and saturation but it still illustrates some of the problems I see in your work. Have more saturation and contrast on the area you think is the most important in your work. Edge control is important. Flatten your image and tighten the edges in the areas where you want people to look and blend em in areas where you don't want them to look (oversimplification but still). Another thing I took issue with were her hands. I don't know if it's just because your image is unfinished but they're both really unnarturally still which is definitely a problem since they're in your focal-area. Hope this helped!

>>2783619
>>2783599

Oh and another thing I did was adding warmth into her skin tone into places I thought it was necessary. Your version looks kind of pink. I don't know shit about any skin tones but I'd still say that you might want to play around with that shit some more!

>>2783601
>>2783603
>>2783612
>>2783619
>>2783622

Cheers anons, I've summarised the crit and I'll make some improvements.

>>2783652
are we having some christmas spirit on the board?
it feels pretty nice having this over the old shitfest of insults. maybe I'll go browse reddit now!

Show the ref

Your girl looks like she has down syndrome

Could be because she's asian, could be because her cheeks are too puffy.. either way

Also, her top half looks pretty great, but it looks like you gave up on the legs and feet. The lines are blurry and the feet need work.

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>>2783826
A bit more interesting version maybe

>>2783826
>>2783840

who wears a strap for classical guitar?

>>2782906

Each brush can be locked to its own stabilization level. Check it by right clicking the tool and going to Options. Your stroke stabilizer specific to that brush might be set high.

>>2782644
id paint that in 3 minutes tops.

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>>2783530
How does this look? I thought maybe the lack of rendering was skewing the pose...

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Are these exercises really going to improve my critical eye of proportions when I'm not using a grid?

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How's this looking so far, crits and advice appreciated

>>2784110
people's top lip are never bigger than their lower lip.

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dumping a few recent paintings

>>2780077
this is real nice

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>>2784190

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>>2784192

>>2784074
if you use grid you will learn to use grid
personally i dont advise it

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heres my drawing on the canvas for my next painting. this will be abstracted though. i plan on using a cadmium yellow, red, and cyan color scheme, with my shadows being prussian blue and burnt umber.

>>2784115
Never say never :)

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just started this one today, gonna really polish it up and add my lighting/form

>>2784317
could you make the head smaller?

>>2780077
the perspective is a bit off but i really like the style

>>2782906
restart sai

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Here's a little experiment I've been doing in my free time. Yes I know the perspective is completely fucked, when I first started sketching this I planned on making it some minimalist thing that only used silhouettes and flat colors. I ended up trying to test my endurance by drawing a fuckton of bricks. I got about 60%-70% of the bricks drawn individually before I tapped out and started copy and pasting. right now I'm trying to focus on getting the mountains to look right. Drawing snow capped mountains is hard as fuck since there is so many distinct gestures and 3D forms coming together it's ridiculous.

>>2784404
literally autism. why would you put yourself through this?

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>>2784110
The butt looks rather round and womanly.

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>>2784317

>>2784404
you are confusing quantity with quality.
that said, quantity has a quality all in its own.
this however is not that type of quality.
this is not something you should continue.
this is a waste of time.
detailed does not = good.
you are polishing a turn even before the line work is completed.

you may get mad at me saying this , but believe me, its the hours spent on your shitty drawing that will be angry, not you. if you had not personally invested any hours into this piece you would be able to see its shit.

>>2784339
I purposfully made it small, I was trying to give the feeling of a fresh face surrounded by clunky protection

>>2784409
>autism
You just answered your question famalan;)
>>2784444
>This is terrible
Your're absolutely right. However like I said in my post i'm fully aware the image is fucked, it wasn't even supposed to be a 3D image in the first place. The purpose of this is to see if I can even draw detailed in the first place. It's just an exercise of patience to test my ability to draw for long periods of time without losing focus or giving up. I appreciate you telling it to me straight, all of my normie friends blindly praised this because it was detailed and ignored all the technical issues.

>>2783864
It still looks a bit weird.
but rendering of the left shoulder does not make me feel the muscles that should be there.

>>2784317
>>2784441
nailed it

>>2784461
you're better off spending that dedication on loomis or stuff like that.
As others said, this is literally autism.

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stuck with this piece of crap, something just seems off, help appreciated.

>>2784557

Something about the pose reads as a bit stiff to me, but it's better than anything I can do so take it with a grain of salt.

I think the sword looking perfectly horizontal also comes off as a bit unnatural.

>>2784573
yeah the idea was just to do a simple pose to figure out the character, ur on point with that sword! will fix that, thanks.

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Slowly working my way from background to foreground.

>>2784557
Her knee looks a little misplaced and all her arm with the sword looks like a totally different draw.

>>2784205
Hey fellow Watts student!

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for amateur of rock dicks, my latest piece.

>>2784628
Ohhai

>>2784557
I'll be a useless fag but I want to say, her face looks really attractive, well done
Maybe it's just me though

>>2784426
that's a lot of butts

>>2784557
Overall, not bad. her boobs are looking a bit chunky because of the shading and the right boob needs to be rounder. the left forearm seems to have a bit of an unnatural bend to it that slightly suggests that she has 2 elbows. the shading of the left arm sleeve also seems a little flat.

>>2784621
looking pretty good so far. what will be the most important elements in the picture? right now the midground mountains have the greatest amount of contrast and definition. You may want to lighten them slightly if your important elements are going to be in the front, otherwise disregard what I just said.

>>2784677
not bad, the values are off though. Since it looks like a pretty sunny locale, the water near the shore should be much lighter as the sand should reflect light in the shallow water. the rocks in the back can have a greater range of values - the furthest rocks should have a value more similar to the sky while the closer rocks should have more relative contrast. You are also missing the cast shadows for the trees.

>>2784557
look at her left wrist, that shit is fucked man. might want to widen her legs a bit as well, she looks really off balance. if you can bring her right hip forward as well.

>>2784697
thanks, that's good advice.

>>2784557
>>2784685
Damn, forgot to ask: have you got a blog or something?
>tfw too stupid for posting

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I'm only beginning to get a grip of a tablet and photoshop

are people not willing to post on a thread too close to bump limit or is everybody on holiday?

>>2785021
this board is kill

>>2785114
no
face is warped

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>>2784317
reminds me of baraka race from Tera

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>>2783219
For (you)
How about now?

>>2785127
woah, nice! I love the eyeliner
Can I see your reference?

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>>2785354
Here

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When you're practicing drawing from imagination, is it ok to just totally throw away observational drawing? I'm really just trying to get the shapes and planes down I'm seeing in perspective. I believe the observational part is more relevant once you get a good idea of the basic forms of the human body.

I've been drawing people from 3D software, and it's a great replacement for life drawing that I just can't get access to.

(Website is sketchfab if you're interested)

Does it get easier the more you draw the human figure? I never realized how horrible it is to draw from photographs until I gained access to 3D rotations of human beings. I can now learn everything about the human body without guessing and thinking and ultimately winding up with something that is totally off-mark.

Here's a good model that's not on sketchfab:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/bba360/Bcolour.html

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Scared shitless of toads so I drew some

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practicing drawing full characters. wip atm.

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I'm dying trying to think of a logo to put on the back of that bomber jacket. I'm thinking something russian, like a big company logo but I'm at a loss

>>2785751
sorry forgot to resize

>>2785751
>>2785752
I think you should rework the feet and hands to show that they're really pressed against a hard surface, aside from that add some dynamic lighting to ground the bot to the scene.

I really love your rendering though, are you the same guy who did the space pirate ship? Also I'm gonna need your blog.

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Study from a collection I was given as a gift, damn thing stinks so I work in short intervals.

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>>2785771
>got bugs as a gift

>>2785782
that's a cool ass present nigga

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>>2785782
Got Jeb bush as a gift

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>>2785820
the value of that gift is going to skyrocket in 2020

>>2785114
there's an anime thread, and even better a beg thread.

>>2785548
pretty nice, cool line!

>>2785751
you're the one who knows what this drawing is about, so that's a pointless thing to ask.

>>2785771
nice. that looks quite long to do.

>>2785782
>never got bugs as present
>does not know the space-time transcending joy of receiving bugs as present

New thread: >>2785835

New thread: >>2785835

New thread: >>2785835

>>2785837
>pointless thing to ask

I just asked for some logo inspiration dude. If I knew what I wanted I'd have either been more specific or had found it myself.

>>2785840
>space-time transcending joy of receiving bugs as present
I used to give bugs as presents. I filled those mechanical pencil lead containers with small beetles, then when a girl asked for lead she'd get a table full of beetles.

>>2785842
don't take it badly man; the thing is, I really don't know what's this piece is about, why the main character looks like strawberry preserve, what the big structure behind him is, a ship, a factory, an alien mechanical tree sprouting from the ground?
so I don't see how I, or other anons, could provide meaningful input, unless you are a bit more specific.