/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

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>>2768000

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Hi /ic/. People here tell me that I should stop symbol drawing. The problem is that I think my non-symbol drawing works are even worse than my symbol drawing works. For example, this Angelina Jolie drawing I did looks nothing like the real person:
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>>2768009
its better in the long run

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>>2767965
I want to dump the drawings I did for keys to drawing so /ic/ can tell me whether or not I did the exercises correctly or whether I should do them again before moving on to chapter 2.
Would that be okay?
This was the first one, my crossed feet, I didn't finish it because my legs started to fall asleep and I didn't think I could get them into the exact same position without changes.

>>2768002
O.o WHAT ENGINE?

>future for games?

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>>2768015
Hand study
I tried it twice because I wasn't confident in my first attempt

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>>2768018
Green pepper
Both imagined and from life reference.

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>>2768023
My eyes from mirror reference

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>>2768028
Beer bottle
I had a hard time pinning down all the different values I was seeing especially since many of them overlapped one another.

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>>2768030
An egg beater
This one was especially difficult for similar reasons to the bottle but also because I was having some difficulty keeping track of the edges and making the image obviously a egg beater while only focusing on the beater end and the handle.
That is all for the first chapter, if you guys could offer some critique and tell me if I seem to understand the lessons enough to move on to chapter 2 or what I need to work on I would greatly appreciate it.

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tfw pose is nothing like the reference

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Hey guys. Any fixes for Mr toad before I do a color overlay? should I add anything? love you /beg/

>>2768045
Mr toad looks like he belongs in /draw/.

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anybody know of anybooks that cover backgrounds, or general coloring/shading?

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>>2768014
Btw how's my drawing? I think it really does look worse than my cartooney ones ie pic related

>>2768062
you need to focus on constructing basic shapes that make up the various features on the face, id highly recommend proko's videos on how to draw a face for it.

>>2768064
>you need to focus on constructing basic shapes that make up the various features on the face
Are you referring to the cartooney one or the Angelina Jolie one?
I watched his videos. I agree that they are very good and my face drawings improved a bit after watching his videos. They used to look even worse.

>>2768048
he would belong in /draw/ with a fully rendered background, good composition and spot on values and rendering. He's not quite ready for that

>>2768069
id say if you watched them, you didnt absorb what he was telling you. try watching them again and actually taking what he says and apply it to pap=er

>>2768075
>id say if you watched them, you didnt absorb what he was telling you
I drew that ball for the face and the ovals besides that large ball. And I saw how the eyebrows should be on that line, how the bottom of the nose should be on another line etc and I did just that.

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I'm trying to work on creating a mood in addition to a setting; does this pavilion make you feel anything in-particular?

>>2768096

horror

>>2768096
Inaccuracy

>>2768030
It's ok to take your time while rendering the values, in both drawing it seems like you're rushing to finish the drawing. By the way, do try cross hatching if you haven't. It would also be better if you draw on a piece of paper without lines.

>>2768062
The structure of nose and lips need some work. Try drawing 3/4 view and side view of the head, that might help you understand the structure of the head better.

>>2768109
>It would also be better if you draw on a piece of paper without lines.
What would that change?

>>2768096
captcha

>>2768096
Final Fantasy 7's one ancient temple place with the fish and the spiral staircase

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Still lost

>>2768126
Cheeks are too chubby. Neck is too thin. Eyes look a bit uneven.

>>2768127
Will fix those. Was looking for painting advice, though.

>>2768128
She looks like she has oil right above her lips. You don't need to make that part so bright.

>>2768070
Have you not seen the draw thread?

>>2768126
You need to pay more attention to your block-in stage and wait on rendering the details, otherwise you're just floundering around and turd polishing. Stop it.

When you draw a face, squint. See how the shadows turn into these blurry blocks of color? Lay those out first, big solid blocks of value. You need to really look at your values, so colorpick from your reference ONLY to double check and make sure you're training your eye properly. You should be able to do a greyscale painting's value palette by yourself, if you cheat on this you are learning nothing.

By the way, a shift in value is a shift in plane, never forget that. Start big and work your way down to the small things, getting caught up in this is your worst enemy.

Then go to the next smallest thing, get it laid in right, and then into another level of detail. Your whole painting should progress at the same stage altogether. There's no sense in having this super rendered nose and eyeballs when your eye is drawn to the hair and shoulders that are barely sketched in, they lack values so there's nothing to relate the values in the face to. Also you need to be filling in your ENTIRE background tone, that is your first step once you've refined the sketch, leave zero white space on the canvas.

Go trash this, double check your sketch for accuracy, block-in and work big to small while checking your proportions. Use visual measuring. Then when it's finished you need to block in your values from big to small. Big values down to details.

If you can't draw something accurately yet and find yourself wasting time on it, use a grid and draw it with an initial big sketch just eyeballing it and then go refine from square to square. After that you can go balls deep in the values and forms.

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>>2768205
this is awesome, thanks

>>2768205
Have a question relating to realistic rendering. I like to make stylized faces which are reliant on the lines to show how the style of the face should look, but I also want to do realistic rendering. When I try to change out the dark lines of mainly the character's eyes the character loses most of what made it unique. Is there a way to keep the original facial lines (around the eyes mainly) and still render realistically? Anyone who does this well with an anime type facial style?

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urgh
I was going to color a drawing made by a kind anon, but I noticed just now that the hand looks like this. I can tell it's wrong, but can't point exctly what and how to revise it

What to do?

>>2768038
Are you drawing with a mouse?>>2768126
Block in your values with a hard brush initially.

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Any tips for my sketch to look more like the actual Selena Gomez?

Reference photo:
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>>2768370
You don't have 3D thinking and shape observational skills. Knowledge of proportions should come first, before nailing alikeness.
Check out Proko portrait drawing videos.

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Daily gesture practice, would love some critique.

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>>2768373
>would love some critique
here goes:

you're stuped

you're fat and gay

and smelly too

I have a question, when people recommend going through drawabox, do they just mean the first part about form and stuff? Or should you go through the entire thing, plants, animals, anatomy etc?

>>2768372
Yes I have seen those videos. How to work on proportions? I've seen them and my drawings still look weird.

>>2768376
How exactly is this helpful?

>>2767976
is that his tongue in motion inside of his mouth or dentures

>>2768381
Just practice. Take it slower. Seeing these videos does not imply that you know how to put the knowledge on paper, because I can still see beginner mistakes (no form, chicken scratches, wrong proportions). Don't stress over it too much, though, it'll come with practice. Good luck!

>>2768386
Btw are you Chinese? I'm also Chinese and I feel guilty for drawing more Caucasian faces than Asian. It's almost like I've internalized white is standard.

>>2768382
that anon was probably trying to patronize /ic/ but is instead making a fool of himself

>>2768387
what a . caucasian faces just have more variation because theres a larger gene pool

>>2768387
I'm not Chinese, no. But i know what you mean, I usually draw "semi-asian" faces that have strong caucasian-influenced features.

>>2768392
Your name is very Chinese.
Why did you say that my drawing has no form? How to think 3D?

>>2768402
That's a tough nut to crack as artists.

Get this book called "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson and get the Dynamic Sketching vol 1 and 2 video courses. You need to be able to visualize objects in a 3D space if you want to be able to correctly put 3D object in a 2D environment.
However, many portrait artists still draw using "2D techniques", which means that they don't have constructive skills, but have great observational skills + hand-eye coordination.

As I said, watch the Proko videos again and again and get "Drawing on the right side of the brain" + "Keys to drawing", do the exercises.

>>2768402
>>2768408

My name is actually Korean :D

>>2768410
Are you a guy or a girl? Sometimes I feel like I like the symbol draw larger eyes because that is the Asian standard of beauty.

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>>2767974
Does this look alright? Any advice?

>>2768411
I'm a guy, I don't want to get any more personal (forgot that I had my name in here) Larger eyes are universally accepted as a symbol of femininity, innosense and cuteness, but that does not mean that they will look good as 2D shapes. They should still have form, not matter the proportions.

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First tonal study ever using Photoshop. My main focus was the torso so head and beard are pretty half-assed. Any critique welcome.

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>>2768425
ref

>>2768412
looks like someone scraped her skin rough

>>2768373
It definitely has movement as if it were a bunch of real people

>>2768291
pencil and then traced over on the screen with a computer pen but Ive never tried that before hence garbo line quality

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>>2768033
So could I get some input on these?

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>>2768381

As the other guy said, just having watched the videos don't mean nothing if you didn't get the concepts. What you need is to do studies, that's how people get better at drawing, get some of the recommended books, and use them.

Also, learn to pick better ref, that picture is so over exposed that it makes it seem as if she has no face, just features floating in white space. It's atrocious. Most celebrity photos are like that so try to stay away from those, get some well lighted portraits instead.

>>2768425
why no dick?

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Loomis is good and all but the steps are rather vague. I find it only explains proportions as well as forming shapes and planes, how do i reach the 6th image from the 3rd?

>>2768467
by drawing a face ect

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>>2768450
Tbh I want to draw fanart like this. Should I focus on sketching techniques?

>>2768202
This guy.. is like the best guy. I mean it! he's a super cool dude and a dope artist! so crazy to see his work here!

>>2768473
This is the problem with /ic/ man, that fanart is totally fine in the eyes of any normie but if someone in here were to post he'd get shredded to pieces for "symbol drawing"

>>2768268
realistic rendering is all about form. figure out what your sylized face should look like in 3d then use that to figure out where the lighting should go

>>2768370
>you picked a hard picture to do a study from. the reason why is that the light is shining so bright right into her face that you can't really see the forms. that being said. the only way to make this look more like the subject is to measure. start by measuring the width and height of the whole picture, does that match your drawing, next measure some of the shapes that make up the picture big shapes to small. always starting with one shape and once that's correct breaking it up into smaller ones.

>>2768485
Nah you can tell this artist knows what they're doing. The point isn't to stop symbol drawing at all, any time you're drawing from imagination you're going to be drawing symbols. The difference is how realistic those symbols are. It's also a problem that beginners often symbol draw while trying to copy a photo. If you're trying to make a realistic portrait of someone you shouldn't be symbol drawing but looking at the reference and drawing what you see.

>>2768467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U

>>2768485
I dunno about symbol drawing. there is a likeness to the subject so I wouldn't say that. What I would say is that it looks really flat to me. It's not really selling me the idea that these are two 3d people standing in a 3d environment.

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>>2768429
haha whoops, I'm not used to brushes with texture so I guess I went overboard. Tried to smooth and refine it some more but I think I'll give up 'cause it's looking worse the more I do.

>>2768425
I'm not good at this critique thing, but the face looks too long compared to the ref and isn't really in perspective. I also think you could benefit from some harder brushes in some areas like the shadows on the torso - at the moment it looks somewhat out of focus. Looking good though, keep it up!

>>2768412
Eyebrow angle is off, face is flatter than the reference, eyes too big are the most obvious things I see

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How do people get this to be rendered so fucking smoothly.

>>2768564
( my pic isnt an example, its just from a drawing i've tried to render.)

>>2768564
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/library/

Watch the brush control basics and blending from section 8, then the basic painting techniques section.

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>>2768289
How do hands work?
Can someone help
pls Im cute anime irl

>>2768564
patience

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Is this ok? Trying to design cartoony comic characters

>>2768590
no

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I was posting in alternate art as I'm trying to draw chibis with largish-hands and feet...I was directed here. Feedback, please? Possible redline? Sorry if this doesn't belong here since it's not really an exercise I'm doing?

>>2768600
No construction

>>2768600
You're not even constructing those heads. Think about where the eyeballs are set into the skull, where the ears actually attach, and what the shape of the head even is because right now you're drawing head blobs and putting face blobs over it instead of thinking in 3D

>>2768590
They're okay, but the female is really bland and ugly. The male could use some something more with the mouth instead of just a line.

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>>2767974
here...

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>>2768607
>The male could use some something more with the mouth instead of just a line.

Well, here are two other concepts

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>>2768607
>female is really bland and ugly

She's a witch so not supposed to be beautiful

>>2768614
Right looks pretty good
>>2768619
I meant ugly in a bland sense. It isn't visually appealing in any way

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>>2768200
Wow, I'm really blown away. Thank you so much for this! & I must admit block-ins are what I (used to) have no idea about.

>>2768045
I agree though maybe push the values under the hat a bit... though you can probably do that with color.

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>>2768619
You can make someone ugly and not bland

>>2768704
based vetyr

>>2768704
I'd fuck that

>>2768704
very fuckable

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I drew something in order to force me to infiltrate 3d space to some measure, following a helpful Anonymous' advice from last thread.

So the reference is the small head that is drawn from portrait that posits an unnatural, bi-lateral appearance. How very terrible

In the pic related I tried to draw it using three quarters' perspective to force me to engage with 3d aspects, made it larger to tackle accretion problems, and that other thing he told me to do that I forgot.

I've probably done horribly but can't see where I've failed blatantly. Can some one with skill clarify what it is I'm supposed to be doing?

>>2768710
Looks like wojak face with hair

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i'm quite /beg/ and this is probably the furthest i've gone with a study without getting bored of the piece
still WIP, i know there's major problems but i can't identify them, could do with some assistance

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>>2768713
Here's ref

>>2768469
The simple guide to symbol drawing

thanks lad

>>2768711
That's pretty bad. To the landfill with this one, therefore

Where did I go wrong?

>>2768713
Even without greyscaling your image I can already tell some values can be pushed more. Darker darks and lighter lights.

>>2768717
Lack of nose construction and too big distance between eyes

>>2768722
Thanks, yeah, after greyscaling i noticed that the lights were dull looking but the darks seem to be okay apart from the hair.

>>2768723
Thank you

Wait: could you circle which one of the two heads you're critiquing? Or is it both?

>>2768728
Both ones suffer from those issues

>>2768729
Ohk; but it isn't the worst thing you've ever seen, is it?

>>2768731
there are worse things

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>>2768731
It probably is, but never I mind; if it is the only thing I can do is build upon it. I really do appreciate the critique however; thank you

I also drew some figures

>>2768736
Don't use Ballpoint pen, only pencil

>>2768473

Well, it seems to me that that is just a sketch, at your level it may seem like the best thing, but in reality is far from finished. If you want to draw simplified features you gotta start with the rea thing.

Do what you want anyway, who am I to tell you what to do?

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I know my edges are shit, gotta work on that

But how are my values?

>>2768704
Thank you so much for this drawing

>>2768704
im not the anon you helped but i greatly appreciate what you did there.

>tfw starting to enjoy the abuse i get here

>>2768765
>>2768769

glad I could help!

>>2768704

You are amazing and someday I hope I can be half as good as you

>>2768776
Feed on it. Use it as fuel to prove people wrong.

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>>2768776
>>2768776

>>2768015
go to an office and steal some paper without lines. trust me it'll help. stay light with the pencil until you'r shapes look correct. I have not read Keys to drawing so I can't tell you about the exercises This is only from looking at your work

>>2768444
Still waiting

>>2768009
you've got to start measuring. sight size, comparative, relational, or all 3. but you need to get to this point without shading anything and then go measure and fix until it looks like her, then shade.

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>>2768062
do some of these until they look better than this

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>>2768704
I wish I could draw as you

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I fuckin hate to draw the hair. :l

>>2768842
Nice filename

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please do not mind how I cleverly disguised her potato face with fashionable sunglasses.

>>2768918
the proportion is a bit off, the face looks bad, her left shoulder is a bit wrong. somewhat good 3d form though.

do these >>2768812

>>2768759
Get your ass out of the beginner thread and into the draw thread buddy

>>2768759
why put those value dots there? they're usually used so you can pick up the color again later in digital..

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Shitty quality but doesn't look the same even in the correct orientation :(

>>2769026
You got GIMP? You can rotate your drawing so it's easier to compare with the ref

>>2769026
i think facial proportion is a thing you get with practise but the features are too big ad the eyes are too high i think.

>>2769032
yeah, eyes look fucking huge now you say it.

>>2768971

Just trying the pencil m8

They're also there to help me remember to work in 4 values only. I often cut a piece of paper with the 4 value scale and use that to compare over the drawing, but i'm trying to drop that., little by little

>>2768950

maybe next year

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I've been looking at Loomis' books for quite a while now. Why do my face sketches still look weird? I'm starting to feel like no matter how many times I draw, I will still suck.

>>2769094
You need to construct the features in perspective as well.
Study the skull and learn how to construct the features out of basic shapes and lay them on/into the skull shape.

Here's a skull model, draw it until you understand the shape, then start working on features.

>>https://sketchfab.com/models/a04a252f8376401bad417f0d9f263b2a

Once you understand this you can build a on simplified base like the Loomis head to save time.

Also, if you haven't studied basic shapes yet, do drawabox first.

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Just finished a One punch man and Dragon Ball Super cross-over ive been working on a while. Im still a beginner and wanted to share it and get critique, but didn't want to take a whole thread for it. Hope its ok if i dump it here
1/13

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>>2769121
2/13

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>>2769123
3/13

>>2769121
>>2769123
pls dont post all 13
you can get critique from 2 at most

>>2769123
dont
the critique we can give you is read the sticky, do drawabox, stop symbol drawing, read loomis etc. that critique wont change if you post more. if you do post you have to understand that you arent doing it for critique, most likely attention.

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>>2769124
4/13

>>2769126
>>2769125
ok, glad i didnt make a thread then

>>2769126
I'd say running through draw-a-box is the best option for an absolute beginner though.

Fuck the Loomis.
Fuck the purported Symbol Drawing. That will only serve to misdirect people that are drawing from imagination.

>>2769153
maybe a fair point about symbol drawing
>Fuck the Loomis
fuck off cunt

>>2768009
That drawing is still symbol drawn.

hows krita?
the mascot is cute, thats why im interested

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Am I constructing these properly?

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>>2768045
the continuation. He feels lacking. Any hints?

>>2769181
>Am I constructing these properly?
>doesnt show construction

>>2769185
I meant if they looked solid, not flat, and if they weren't any crazy proportional issues. My fault.

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>>2769182
I think just push the lighting a bit more. Play up the ambient occlusion, maybe throw in a rimlight. Also be sure the cast shadow is consistent with the rest of the lighting, like right now it looks weird that the toad is lit diffusely and the cast shadow is hard edges like it is a direct light source.

>>2769207
how many minutes did that take you and how complex was it? if i might ask.

>>2769153
If they don't know how to draw an eye from reference, they're boned trying to do it from imagination.

Developing your """""style""""" after having solid fundamentals is more or less how much symbol drawing you wanna put in your work anyway.

>>2769214
in theory your imagination should be a 3d model.

>>2769207
that looks awesome! thanks for the tips dude!

>>2769213
I dunno, probably less than 5 minutes but I didn't time it or anything. I just used a soft brush on a soft light layer to get the ambient occlusion in just a few broad strokes, then on a normal layer quickly scribbled a rimlight and then put an overlay layer with a soft brush over the rimlight to make it pop a bit more in colour and brightness. Very simple quick stuff that was done very quickly so didn't take long. On an actual piece to do it cleanly and nicely it might take much much longer. It's worth noting that I'm not a beginner though and have years of experience, so I can work pretty quickly.

>>2769225
Glad it helps!

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does this look correct for lihgting on a sphere?

cheapest mecha pencil lead refills?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/cutemechaleads/625487_32718422608.html
cute

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Where do I start looking around in loomis? I have a really hard time setting up base lines for proportions but I feel like I can't keep drawing from zero to something forever

Also how the fuck do I legs

>>2769233

No. The light should wrap around more of it and it should be thinner.

>>2769241
ah, thank you

>>2769240
Would also be nice to know how to not have my tablet fuck up image rotation

>>2769231
I'm kinda curious at who you are now, and would love to follow you if you have a blog or somewhere you post often (if you're comfortable posting it in here). thank you again for the help on the dynamic toad lighting

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Is this block-in too small in terms of brush stroke? It's quite confusing determining how "simple" I should go.

I squinted my eyes.

>>2769251
You shouldn't be blending at all in the block in stage. 100% opacity hard round and try again.

>>2769251
It's fine

>>2769252
Bad advice, there are no hard rules on how to do it, most pros even don't paint 100% opaque at the start

>>2769253
question.
can pros really do page-long lines completely accurately?

>>2769253
It's just for the block-in stage, it helps you see where your values are at and make sure you are thinking in shapes and planes first, then forms after when you blend and detail at the final stage where you render. The reason some pros don't need to is because they've got all that training in already. They understand it and can do it from their head. Beginners have trouble thinking in forms at first (as that anon obviously does from the way he paints) and this is a way to train their eye.

Don't fuck around when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was the only way to do it, and you can do whatever you'd like, the advice wasn't for you. Anon can take it or leave it as well.
If you're going to put in your two cents that's fine but do the whole thread a favor and give the artist critiques and alternatives backed up with logic, maybe offer some exercises, rather than just being a salty little shit taking his insecurities out on everyone. Go whine in the bitch thread and get it out of your system.

>>2769257
No, very few can do that and usually they've worked in car/product design in traditional media to get to that point.

>>2768202
>>2768205

>>2769251
Look at the pics in those and try using that process for a block in

>>2769271
Yep, I tried. I'm actually that same person he replied to. At this point I think it's just the process of training my eye to see values + the bigger picture with harder colors. It looks so effortlessly done with that apple.

>>2769277
Yeah practicing with values that way is going to help. Try putting a black and white filter over pictures to see what the colors translate to as values, by the way.

>>2769296
Gotcha. I'm limiting myself to B&W for the next couple months as I indulge in values. The most common critique I see (especially in /beg/) is that people can't control their values well...

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Sometimes I find my mind is tense and it translates to my hand.
I do this as a warm up to calm down and relax.

FUCKING GESTURE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2769443
This thread desperately needs it.

>>2769461
its so hard
help me
noose please

>>2769468
What problems are you having with it? Post your best out of the ones you've done recently.

>>2769473
i think its correct for me to grind it for a few more days then post it, judging by my current level and understanding.

im just complaining desu, nothing productive to say. its rough drawing unappealing things as you must do sometimes.

>>2769475
If you're already having trouble I can help point you in the right direction. If you want to stick it out and try to figure it out yourself then more power to you, man.

>>2769475
don't be a pussy, just post it you anonymous retard

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Could someone give me a small critique, before i try and render this shit here.

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Shading some spheres with ink. Will take account local value and light intensity soon

>>2769153

>That will only serve to misdirect people that are drawing from imagination.

Yeah. What kind of imbecile wants to know how to draw before drawing from imagination?

People who try to learn how something works before moving onto their goal are complete fools. Just skip to the part where you're awesome.

Does anyone know of a way to draw good-looking lineart with Krita?
My shit's terrible but I'm having a hell of a time figuring out how much of it is due to my methods being inherently flawed vs bad execution.

>>2769569
>using a meme program
>he fell for the cute mascot

>>2769574
>/beg/
>implying I know shit about art programs
>implying I didn't just pick a free one at random

>>2769569
There's dozens of tutorials and guides on youtube about this, why not find one on there you find useful? Probably easier than having someone on here explain.

>>2769569
Practice with real ink first, so you can't blame the program.

>>2769581
>can't even pick a program on his own
never gonna make it

>>2769581
all software is free
>>2769574
the mascot is cute as fuck though

How do i draw lips?

>>2769585
...I actually hadn't considered searching on youtube instead of google. This is giving me much better results already, thanks.
I wasn't hoping to have someone here explain, just a pointer to a good explanation, preferably text-based.

Anyway, do you have any recommendations?
A lot of youtube artists aren't that good and I hate sitting and listening to people's voices, so I'd be really grateful not to have to sort through the heap myself.

>>2769587
I'll keep that in mind if this doesn't help.

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what the fuck is the mascot I can't find anything on their main website, am I being trolled here

What is the best, simplified construction method for the head? I know how the skull is and can draw it to an extent but i need a simpler method to actually draw faces quicker and simple. Want to do comicey shit

>>2769605
you shouldnt be posting if you dont know that, read the sticky
L O O M I S
O
O
M
I
S

>>2768812
>>2768467

>>2769609
K. i have the pdf saved, just havent looked at it properly yet, is it actually useful? or just another case of rampant memery

>>2769610
its a meme for a reason

>>2769602
No worries. I personally don't use Krita, sorry.

>>2769612
Oh god its so full of drivel, when does he get to the point jesus

>>2769625
cant manage half an hour of reading the insightful teachings of a genius
are you going to make it?

>>2769626
I can anon. But fuck me the most i read in a day is an article or a text, give me a moment to compose myself and i can get through it. Christ i used to be able to get through a book and a half in a night

>>2769619
Ah well, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Time to go digging I guess.

>>2769628
i know what you mean, i used to read a lot as a kid. with the internet and such i dont have the attention or "time" anymore. its rough.

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>>2769604

>>2769634
Cute

>>2769604
>>2769635
cutes right
7+1ch net/tech/res/683113.html

>>2769628
No problem. I prefer Sai over Krita since it doesn't seem to lag my brush. If you can get your hands on Sai I would recommend it for sure since it's simple to use and there's hundreds of quick tutorials on all the features.

>>2769634
I WANT TO FUCK THIS CUTE THING

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>>2767981
Thumbnail Practice

>>2769636
fuck you

>>2769636
hnnnggg

>>2769645
cute thing is not for fug

>>2769661
fug u you can't stop me fucko

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Is the body too small compared to the head? Is it just too thin?

>>2769673
chest is too flat and the back isnt round bulky enough, (bad word to use but i cant think of a better one).

i tried my best, what do you think?

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>>2769720
I had forgotten the pic

>>2769596
Not all software is free as in freedom, though

>>2769720
>>2769722
In case you have not read the sticky, I'd recommend you to do so.

how do boxes on a figure relate to perspective?

>>2768802
What is the deal with people complaining about lined paper?
How does it matter at all?

my workflow is so slow jesus christ

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What am I doing wrong?

>>2769875
observe more closely...

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>>2769875
Here's another one of my sketches.

>>2769890
What are you using you blend

>>2769899
Tissue paper and my finger.

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I did this back in high school when I had more interest in drawing. Opinions?

>>2769905
You did a good job with the texture.

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>>2769875

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3 hour study

>>2769665
stiff as a board

(maybe not as a board but you catch my drift)

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>>2769925
ref

>>2767965

I found this playlist on youtube. Demo's of various type of head construction with instruction.

>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGqLd8aLnAfFdTKsJsdN2Le4uJZQf5ihl

>>2768710
Is there a way I could make these faces look less uncanny?

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>>2767965
cc?

Can't find the question thread so I'll ask here. I want to start studying anatomy, with which book should I start? What should I read next?

>>2769976
there is no correct answer for questions of this type

stop worrying about which one you should start with and just pick one and follow through

>>2769983
Fact is that I have 4 Bridgman Books and 4 Hogart books about anatomy. I don't even know which is the first

>>2768062
I know people like to ~meme~ over it but Loomis is where you want to go with this. The other anon was right, you're not constructing basic shapes and it's pretty clear you're stuck on symbol drawing

You know what's frustrating to me? I go online and try to go out of my way research what the best books and tutorials are on getting good fast at digital painting. I try to see if there's a school with a good reputation. Or some online program.

And you know what I find? Nothing but a bunch of youtube channels and websites run by mediocre artists clogging the shit up out of my googling to figure out where the best place is to get good at this shit. I don't want to waste my time studying in a way that is less effective than studying another way. Does anybody fucking know what the best way is to get good at digital art? What books do I need to read? Who the fuck do I need to learn from? Fuck.

>>2769214
Actually if you keep drawing from reference your brain never learns how to draw from imagination only

That is why people drawing from reference suck at drawing from imagination and think drawing from imagination is impossible. It's more than possible. You can draw almost photorealistically with perfect anatomy with your imagination if you want to.

>>2770007
is this bait or

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>>2767974

>>2770013
I understand that. What I'm saying is beginners have no idea how things -really- work and look like. A lot don't realize this but once they have that down they can stylize without looking amateur. From imagination too, if they wanted to.

Why does the human body look so fucking long lads

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im starting to learn how to properly learn how to use colors for the first time, I was trying to use something triadssomethingsomething with three main colors but it just looked so weird until I added a bit of pale yellow, so in the picture total are magenta, purple and pink plus yellow, what going on?

also face looks like picasso horror ehe...

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Is this "good" for only one and a half years of experience? I'm trying to study different poses and anatomy and then I'll move on to the human face as I struggle quite a bit with it.
(My own work, because I'm trash.)

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>>2768600
>>2768603
>>2768604
Is this any better? I tried redoing the heads.

>>2770068
I may speak for myself but i definitely don't find your style appealing

>>2770074
anthros are shit

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>>2770048
with the actual line'art'

>>2770068
You ruined the rabbit and everything else looks 11-year-old tier

>>2770048
Nice colours

>>2770085
stop replying to trolls

>>2770074
Okay, can you tell me suggestions on way I can make it more appealing, please?

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>>2770109
If you go onto deviantart and type in furry, your style is exactly what I would expect to see there. Take that as you will.

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I'm not sure if I can ask this in this thread but here I go anyway, if I'm wrong please correct me to the right thread.

I'm looking for a brush for Clip Studio Paint for coloring or shading like this card here. Check the clothes and hair.

I don't know if it's because some brushes in Clip Studio don't work like in SAI where the colors there actually mix together.

>>2770128
Give me that card bro

Does anybody know any good, fundamental tutorials or book pages on how to draw hair? I can't find any.

Thanks a bunch!

>>2770109
It's all very generic. The chibi proportions, the "fuck it" clothes and shoes, the lack of variation between character designs. Yawn.

Look at actual cats and rabbits, study them, then apply some of what you learned.

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>>2770146
>, the "fuck it" clothes and shoes

>>2770146
>the "fuck it" clothes and shoes
kek

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>>2770146
I'm not trying to make excuses, I know I suck hardcore at art and I'm terrible, but my sketches look extra shitty compared to my finished ones.(pic is something finished from me)

Someone is trying to get me to draw in his style for personal reasons, and I'm having a lot of trouble nailing it.

>>2770248
Why waste your time trying to emulate something so juvenile and shit-tier?

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>>2770248
This is his art. His actually look cute, and mine look like trash. He's telling me to add things like hairstyles and "big anime eyes" though, and it's just a headache.

>>2770256
fujoshi confirmed

>>2770256
His work looks better (but not significantly so) due to its proportions. Adjusting those will make a big difference.

>>2770256
heres the difficult thing with anime/cartoon facial features that you arent understanding. its tough to explain so ill just tell you the steps

work out what the geometry of the face looks like, contour it over and over in different positions. after that paste your eyes and such as if they are stickers onto them, then give them as much 3d elevation as you want for your style.

the thing about anime eyes is they are supposed to be kind of symbol drawn, anime eyes are the only thing i would say it is correct to somewhat symbol draw. but also they have to be good. for that reason people take a strange kind of half measure. its tough to do so just try and understand all the parts of it then scrape them together into some semblance of a whole. all the while aesthetics in mind.

my opinion right now is that. im just a beginner though so take what i say with salt.

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Started reading Keys to Drawing, how's this so far?

>>2768015
Could I please get some damn answers to my questions please?

>>2770320
keep asking until someone who knows the answer turns up.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANY GOOD, FUNDAMENTAL TUTORIALS OR BOOK PAGES ON HOW TO DRAW HAIR? I CAN'T FIND ANY.

THANKS A BUNCH!

>>2770362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKZ2DhfHScA
literally just listening to a playlist of tutorial and this is the video I'm on, hope it helps

>>2770364
thank you friend

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>>2770048
more color practices, does muddy always mean bad? is autumn muddy?
>>2770086
thank you

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>>2770375
with lines

anyone have some good resources for references? preferably portraits

>>2770401
quickposes.com

portraitsfordrawing.tumblr

>>2770416
merci beaucoup

>>2770423
>>2770423
>>2770423

>>2770423
>>2770423
>>2770423

>>2769094
It would be great if you first learn to train your eyes and stop "drawing symbols", then you move on to Loomis, check the sticky, read the first book about what i talked here.

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>>2767976
First time posting here, no bully

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i did it today,i'm open for every type of critique,s-so dont hold back senpai

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If you use the new google PhotoScan app you can scan your drawn image straight to your cloud in hq, takes a few short minutes to get a perfect high quality image for photoshop.

In an unrelated note, check out my IG: @6633art