draw thread: no uppercase edition

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This is the first time I get so early to a draw thread, anyways I'm feeling massively unisinspired so I'm just doing studies.

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>>2767386
Ftfy

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>>2767386

This your reference anon? you did good

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Phone Posting and I saved these from normiebook so probably compression on images... Not like it matters for my newbie line """art""" anyway. I just got my tablet a few days ago so I'm quite new to /ic/ and I hope this is the proper thread.

Thanks

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>>2767441

I drew this last night to cheer my [spoiler]wife[/spoiler] up.

I would really appreciate feedback on this piece and maybe some techniques to improve. I struggle with hands and especially feet a lot. Proportions are off on purpose but I still would love a few pointers because that's still a major flaw.

Thanks

>>2767446
>Proportions are off on purpose
No no no. Your anatomy is off on purpose, it's unrealistic and that can be fine to mess with if you know what you're doing. But your proportions? They are what keep your drawing consistent, measurements you take to make sure that things are the same in relation to themselves. Like making sure the arms are the same length, the head to body ratio is what you need, and that you're adjusting everything more or less as you should for the size changes.

You have to learn the rules before you can break them and make it look good.

>>2767448
Thanks for the correction, I like be "expressive" with anatomy. But yeah, great point about proportions.

I don't know what the rules are and I want to learn but I'm so clueless about what I'm doing. If you would, could you point me in a direction and I'll begin to teach myself like with a known guide or technique for improvement?

>>2767446
>>2767456

>muh style

No, it's not "on purpose" just badly drawn.

No

>>2767457
It's badly drawn but the thing you warp for style is anatomy, not proportion. proportions are relevant no matter what you are doing, anatomy is not after you learn it and can break those rules.

>>2767456
Learn actual anatomy. There's this anatomy for sculptors book that is really good, pretty sure it's always in the artbook thread. Start with drawing skeletons and look into bridgman's book on constructing anatomy using forms. Then after you've got the basic skeleton down start drawing muscles on top of them. Learn where the attach and what their purpose is.

Proportion is going to be in any artist's anatomy book, learn about it and learn how to do visual measuring.

Work on your linework, too. A good draftsman is a good painter, you're going to need that skill. And most importantly, do gesture drawings every day. These will train your eye as well as help with your stiff poses, anatomy issues, proportion, and sketch quality.

>>2767464
>proportions are relevant no matter what you are doing, anatomy is not after you learn it and can break those rules.
i mean that proportion is always relevant to itself. It is literally the size of one thing in relation to another thing. Like the fact that the length of your foot is approximately the length of your forearm.

Even if you change the rules in proportion, they still need to be consistent in relation to each other.

>>2767457
Yeah... I'm not going to argue over this but I do want to learn if you're willing to help.

I want to learn

>>2767468
well, read the sticky and start doing exercises.
then post them in /beg thread.

>>2767472
>>2767464
Thank you!

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Reposting from the last thread.
Still a WIP

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>>2767488
I like it, but why is santa a formless blob?

>>2767175
Ok. I'll try harder and more seriously on this design soon.
>>2767189
Thanks. It's a very quick sketch but I was kinda happy with it, so yeah there are issues.

>>2767488
Wow, great palette! Just don't be afraid to touch edges, anon, there are lots of tiny empty spaces.
Also the foreshortening on the reindeer's legs looks a bit off but that might be because of the lack of blending.

In any case, I'm really looking forward to seeing the finalized piece.

>>2767488
add a bottle of cheap scotch in his pocket

>>2767493
left leg is too short even considering perspective. Right is too long compared to the rest of the body

>>2767407
>>2767412
>not drawing the walking cheeseburger in the middle
triggered

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I'm still really annoyed and angry with this but I might as well try to learn something from it.

>>2767521
I did put a grid, so the the pers is correct, but the VP is very close so the distortion is super strong (was trying to get a vety dynamical look).
Good to know that it looks wrong, I'll keep with less distortion if I can't pull it off.

>>2767624
dude she looks maniacal as fuck.
colors are decent. there's something unappealing to it, but you gotta practice more.

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Is this one better?
I think of rendering it seriously, any help/crits?

>>2767640
Where is sea level

>>2767632
well, put it on the background that would justify the perspective

>>2767640
Hman?

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Some head studies I did freeze framing brucre willis interview in VLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h_gjmm_ja0&t=76s

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not familiar with painting things other than fruit

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>>2767488
Done I guess

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How do I get better at drawing 3D forms from photographs?

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>>2767724
Oh shit,
I just really looked at this out-dated drawing after drawing loads of 3D forms, and everything is fucked up.

>>2767718
This does not come across as done.

>>2767733
You're right. I got a bit lazy at the end. I'm gonna work on it a bit more and clean all those muddy brushstrokes

>>2767724
I've finally realized that unless my forms are ran in perspective the contour lines never be right. The shadows they cast will never truly be correct.

It's impossible when you're running your mind around the wrong idea that you've received through an incorrect observation.

I finally get why perspective is so important when it comes to organic forms. No one ever explicitly stated it, but now I know what my issue was. They'd say my mental thought when it comes to form is weak, or they'd say my perspective is very poor, but they'd never stress how perspective and forms are intertwined. I've been screwing up by studying either form or perspective for hours when I really needed to look at both at the same time and the relation between them.

The next time I see someone do this I'll be sure to save them a load of trouble.

I didn't really know the importance of perspective until I did references to get an objective view of a form and I had to wrap contour lines around a cylinder in accordance with its orientation relative to the vanishing point/horizon line.

I guess I've finally fixed my biggest issue.

I had always believed limbs can operate almost independent of the horizon line until I started looking at how axis's rotate in perspective.

So much information from such a shitty fuck-up.

>>2767748
>>2767724
Draw-a-box man is so full of shit.
His boxes are only good to a certain extent.
I now see why there are people that run through his course and his course alone and still draw like shit a year later.

Once I get good enough, I'm going to create my own version of draw-a-box that really teaches people what they need to know.

I've seen people that can do his purported "necessary" action of ellipse rotation/combining forms/boolean, but I've seen new masters of it completely fuck up when it comes to drawing human beings.

I'm glad I've recently seen someone else flounder after taking the equivalent of Peter Han's Drawing Courses/Draw-a-box. I knew it was stupid to keep running imaginary contour lines, and that it's only good for a beginner's lesson.

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Chipping away still

>>2767752
I finally get why Michael Hampton tells new artists to only do those form exercises in their mental down-time.

They're simply not necessary aside from refresher once you understand how to draw and visualize within a page.

>>2767606
Yeah if there's one thing I've inadvertently refused to draw, it's fat chicks. I've drawn fat dudes before, but that can be funny. A fat chick is just sad.
>>2767753
Lookin good. I'mma need a wallpaper res when you're done, love the concept

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Doing some pen stuff after a long time, also been forever since last posted.
1/2

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2/2

>>2767753
Medium? What kinda paper is that?

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Let me have it

>>2767786
Graphite on watercolor paper

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Can I get a blue line/red line?

My biggest issue isn't a likeness/accuracy, but it is form. I might have set the eye level at a wrong height.

>>2767791
I feel like I'm going to be sucked into that armpit, but not in a good way.

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>>2767825
I'm lost on that pelvis.
I couldn't see my other bony landmark, so I got confused.

I've got another idea for what shape it might actually be.

>>2767753

Fuck the haters, this is so good

>>2767777

Nice lines

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>>2767825

Here's another example.
I've decided I might as well trace/do fundamental studies if I'm going to worry about form in a figure.

I'm simply looking to see if I've improved my general idea of the way a muscle/shape looks.

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2 and a half hour drawing session

>>2767886
The head is a little to big i think? And the shadow/dark color on the left side of the page looks really sloppy compared to the lines on the model, cover it with your hand and it looks much better. I Like the shading on the lady tho

>>2767885

symbol drawing. stop that. draw what you see without making aesthetic adjustments.

also, beware the long animu nose.

>>2767650
do you mean that I should be more careful about putting it, or do you mean it will look fucked whatever I do?
On the right water goes far too high, especially between the rocks where it fucks things up because it's basically in another pers, I think it should be somewhat above where it is on the left.

>>2767660
no idea who that is

>>2768193
I only have one comment. What if you were a fish dude man. xDDDD

>>2768193
I like it, both the idea and the way its drawn. Mb add some shadows under each layer of those things around his head? would make it easier to read and add depth

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Started a new project today.

Gonna be drawing The Godfather. I've done stuff like this before but they were smaller thumbnails, very rough. This time I'm going big, on 11x17" paper with approximately 5x9.25" frames (this first page has frames a little wider, 5x10").

My goals are to become comfortable at this size, to develop a better understanding of composition, gesture and value, to improve my aptitude at brush inking and marker coloring, to build the habit of drawing every day and hopefully discover my own style.

Unfortunately right now I'm working on printer paper instead of bristol so it immediately becomes crinkly as fuck and the markers don't blend so well, but maybe when it's all said and done I can redo it on bristol.

>>2767886
Noice, my only complain would be this left foot.

>>2768094
what if they're not drawing off of a reference? I doubt anon is trying to draw as realistically as possible

>>2768329

It's still poor practice. Even if you're drawing stylized people it's still proper to visualize features as 3D forms.

>>2767372
2 heh

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Any advice on learning to render things?
Stuff like mountains rocks and such.
That's about how far I know how to paint. If I continue, it just becomes uglier.

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>>2767372
how do i improve my character desings senpais.

>>2768442
apply methods such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fww9L7XH8Qg
suggests.
Say you have this design. Consider introducing an element/rule to your design. So for example he's known as "the lion" because of his fight prowess. So you try a few designs where you introduce a lion shield, an emblem, or an helmet.
you do stuff like that, and try a way to iterate quickly so you can do a bunch of them, until you're out of juice.
Then you pick the elements that work best.

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Drawing class final

>>2768535
Nice anon, is that a still life?
I think you should up the contrast a bit, like a gradient from bottom to top so you place more emphasis on the horse area.

>>2768560
Thanks, and yes. Probably should have pushed it a little further yeah, the horse was something I really wanted to focus on, but I also wanted to get as many other objects as I could. A darker lower half would look good, I was just following the lighting as closely as I could.

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Hello, /ic/!
I've been skimming around in read-only for a while; I have scrolled through sticky and picked up some stuff from there back then. Though, every time i open it up again, I get dazzled by how much stuff there is always up to explore.
...To the point I doubt I have any idea where to go! And yet there's still a lot to learn to reach the level around cool academists and/or well-paid Patreon artists... (just to abandon it all and claim that I want to do Art™ in my own manner)
So far I see that I either make rough 3/4s in my sketchbook, try to make something a little more complicated, dropping it almost at the start (pic related: I don't even want to refine it!) or, or...? I guess I'm just kinda lazy to think of all the nuances a picture should have, but when I think of how much there are, my hands just drop down. All while I look at a picture and realize it doesn't take TOO much to be done, even an overly refined one!
Anyway. In the end, I want to grow up of sketches and drafts to something more consistent, but I'm pretty much confused! Besides, my interest doesn't usually get caught up by... well, anything to think of it and work on, so I don't pay much attention to nature, environment or something like so; so does my imagination, as I personally can't come up with a flying worm-dragon who annihilates brave elf ladies with a beam out of it's mouth, spewing thick juicy saliva all around in a space with cookies instead of stars and whatever else cool modern cartoons come up with.

>>2768567
>dropping it almost at the start
if you don't want to draw, don't force yourself.
If you don't like working on learning, it's that you don't like it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Al7QAS89s
it's like these IFLS people who will never open a book: if you just enjoy the end product and not the process, that's it. continue enjoying art without making it.

>>2767372
Can I get some anatomy feedback for this guy please? Especially the clavicle/tits?
I kinda burned out while drawing this, my eyes are too sore to find the mistakes.

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>>2768632
forgot pic

>>2768634
It's clear you have some understanding of the anatomy; muscles are mostly in the right places and are defined properly, you're not just making up forms and faking it. The issues here are mainly with perspective both in terms of foreshortening and overlapping forms which you're hesitating to do in places it needs to be done like the front shoulder. The pecs are in line with each other but are at an angle to the rest of the torso as if they were a door on a hinge and someone was opening his chest. The legs and feet are also unaligned with each other so they look like they're resting on two surfaces of differing height rather than one plane. I'd recommend you practice boxes with perspective guidelines, then other geometric shapes in perspective, then drawing organic shapes and figures inside those boxes matching their perspective.

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>>2768638
love it anon

>>2768634
thoracic cage

>>2768634
I can almost feel your frustration. You learned all the anatomy but overlooked the actually important stuff that ties it all together, gesture and form.
I like the way you managed the hand, it's pretty solid.

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>tfw transitioning from using comfy paper and charcoal pencils to using digital
Feels bad, man.
Any tips on establishing a well structured workflow?

>>2768535
that is some art school ass shit. this could've been accomplished to more tasteful effect with a vase of flowers and some fruit. instead of a million things drawn poorly why not two or three things drawn really well?

>>2768775
it was like a month or more for me of fucking forcing myself

I just gave my sakura mechanical pencil away today after like a year of being digital.

>>2767885
I like this- do you have more?

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I know the tits aren't great, but i had to stop working on them cause the paper was starting to get bad.

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>>2769201

diggen that brush work. huge head m8

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I am going to sketch a 18th century style ship in oil paint. I drew it out in charcoal and will do a study of a ship in open ocean.

>>2769282
>3508x4960

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just got back into drawing after 6 years of not drawing. how did i do?

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Trying to get better at conveying emotion and expression, also I need to learn how to cloth/shadow ASAP next

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>>2769288
a bit rusty but it shows effort m8. it's pre cool.

>>2768779
It is art school ass shit. I didn't have a choice in the subject matter. I probably should've focused on less objects, yes, but I have a short attention span and didn't feel like pushing detail for 3 objects on that giant ass paper.

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>>2769287
Sorry bout that.

>>2767753
lovely

>>2769201
this looks like a sad attempt at copying ruan jia. except without any of the knowledge about how to paint. the hair is a mess, the gold shit sticking out of it looks random and messy, the face is completely disproportional, etc. oh yeah and the brushwork is a fucking mess.

>>2768638
very nice anon, I love the line economy and shape design

what were you trying to accomplish here? did you use a reference or this is the culmination of your recent studies?

also was this done with brush and ink?

thanks

>>2769405
The shading is good. At least say some good things about it you shitty kid.

>>2769457
I did them during a life drawing session, about 15-30 seconds each. I was aiming to capture a detailed upper body of the model.

I did it with this brush pen which I highly recommend
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pentel-Standard-Brush-Pen-Tsumi/dp/B0017OR1M8/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1481199635&sr=8-28&keywords=brush+pen

>>2769463
salty op detected
i cant say positive things about a drawing that looks like this
grow up and learn to take criticism you piss soaked adult

>>2769487
that was my first post in this thread smartass. you're only finding negative things to try and be edgy or show superiority in some way when you probably don't even make art. at least try and say one good thing once in your life you piece of shit.

>>2769491
you are new to ic arent you? do you come from tumblr where people dont point out flaws in drawings? im not criticizing it to be fucking edgy you idiot. why am i supposed to lie to someone when it comes to objective work quality? you post here to be criticized. art is a craft and if you think that criticizing someones work means insulting them as a person you really need to grow the fuck up.

>>2769491
whiteknight go away

>>2769494
This. Fuck off back to tumblr, newfag. You obviously don't know how critique works.

>>2769496
>>2769498
>>2769494

but I've been here longer than all of you combined, you go. you're all shits with no sense of humor who samefag and post reaction images. your parents are probably shits too.

>>2769491
If you have to try, its pointless right. You've gotta be trolling

>>2769504
are you done throwing your tantrum yet

>>2769507
are you?

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>>2769405
Actual OP here, thx for the crit, mind being more specific about the face though? I personally like it a bit but it's probably quite fucked
>>2769463
He's allowed to say whatever he feels fit

>>2769518
i think the problem stems from the headshape in general, the hair makes the skull look massive. the eyes look very 2d while the nose (which looks pretty good imo) is very 3d. the mouth is a little too small and it should probably be slightly lower on the face. the head is a bit big in relation to the shoulders by itself, the (from the viewers perspective) left arm looks too short (its smaller than the head) it should stick out of the frame of the drawing. hand should be a bit smaller, the lower hand (right hand from the viewers perspective) is way smaller, and for that one i only recommend practicing hands more. the hand itself would be out of the frame too. dont try to squish everything into your format if it doesnt fit. the shading of the gold ornament on her head looks nice, but the random gold spikes coming from her hair lack that. (maybe making them into a crown/hair ornament thing rather than being random would help.)
one more thing: practice hair direction. the random hairstrands sticking out from her head dont look great. if it was just the hair with a few strands flowing in the wind or something it might work better.

this time i wrote a fuckton. hope thats ok. maybe when im home from work i could redline a bit but i dont have my tablet rn.
otherwise, good luck w your painting mang

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>>2769525
Thanks dude, i'll get on that.
A redline or quick paintover would be sweet if it doesn't take up too much of your time

>>2769525
you did something useful, don't you feel nice?

>>2769528
yeah dude the shoulder is the biggest problem- it starts right beneath her neck! while the head lenght should fit in the shoulders like 1.5 times. (im not the guy above u btw) It has its climate but anatomy-wise its not so good (already mentioned alien skull)

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>>2768296

Frame #4. I dun goofed his hand but I felt more confident in the inking.

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I Need Help Deciding if this is okay..

>>2769588
Cancerous design aside, it's very bad. The wrinkles don't make any sense, the hand is fucked, and the elbow is moving at two points for some reason.

>>2769588
What do you mean "okay"? If "OK" means it's good enough to get lost among the DA trash then yes. If "OK" means are people besides your mother going to appreciate it? Then no, it's shit.

>>2769588
Its wierd, the thing that bothers me the most in this monstrosity is the fact that one sleeve is tighter than the other. How inconsistent can you be?

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working on this. had to stay up to paint the flowers. painting flowers is very stressful, even within the 3 hours it took to paint them some of the bulbs had started to bloom.

im trying to spend more time on the drawings for my paintings. the drawing took me about 3 hours too. the fruit and pitcher are more or less perfect, but the flowers were just too complicated, i did as best i could but they still weren't exact.

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not finished

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>>2769264
My Galleon ship. I decided to add color to the sales so the piece is more interesting. I could have had a sunset sky instead.
I tried to add conflict in the painting by having colors opposite the color wheel next to each other. Red and Green. I need to work on my wave painting. This was done in oil on an 8 x 10 canvas.

>>2767412
i only see 1 female there and she is holding a yellow drumstick

>>2769822
Oh man, unless your workflow includes a last minute twist on everything, I'd say color theory and waves in the sea should be the least of your concerns.
Your perspective doesn't make sense and your forms are as flat as a cubist painting.
Consider going back to pencil and paper and gitting gud. You'll feel better in the long run.

>>2769776

More or less perfect? Dude, your ellipses are fucked. Also the way you are going about this, doing the flowers first, details and all, is going to bite you in the ass so hard. You haven't even toned the canvas. Work from back to front. Then again I'm fairly sure you're Brian so any advice falls on deaf ears.

>>2769802
Dude looks pretty calm with a skeletal ghost deer coming at him? Is it because he can't see him with that helmet thing over his eyes?

>>2769891
mb he was expecting him

>>2769802
is this what they call photobashing?

>>2769532
ye fug didn't think about the shoulder thing
I'll try actually drawing it out before painting it next time
unfortunately what I did with her hair didn't come across as planned, it's supposed to be like bunching up which is what creating the ayy lmao aesthetic

>>2769776
good colors brian. keep it up.

>>2769891
Who care about a bubble soap buck when you have a plastic gun?

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>>2767372
what do you guys think

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>>2769201
Not the previous anon but here's a quick take on your composition.
Someone should probably redline my redline for the right arm though, it's pretty fucked.

>>2769968
It's a copy of a Poon, circa 2016. Worth not the million an original does. Sorry.

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>>2767718
Now I'm really done

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>>2769987
Ow sorry

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I feel like I'm especially lacking key realizations with cohesivesiveness of colors & composition here.

>>2769988
I don't think the pure white background is doing this any favors. It doesn't feel like the character is in a blaring-white room- replacing the white with even some shade of gray and some bounce light might remedy how he feels to be floating on an empty canvas as opposed to a physical setting.
Digging the sunken, empty eye sockets vibe, though.

>>2769988
I kind of liked it more when it was rougher and had texture and brush strokes. I think you should've only refined a few places like the face areas and maybe the deer's outstretched foreleg. I miss the border too, it was shaping up to have this sort of old timey illustration vibe. Something like an art nouveau type of style? I can't pinpoint it but hopefully you get what I mean.

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Imma need you guys to fuck my shit up for Christmas.

>>2770039
that gradient is disgusting

>>2769988
texturally its all too similar. it all looks like clay hard to tell whats cloth, skin, leather, metal, etc.

>>2769984
wut

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>>2769528
>>2769978
actually the previous anon and here is my take on it
no crucify pls

>>2770039

She's growing a massive asshole under her arm.

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>>2770124

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Need to make a dragon queen thingy for a card game thingy for some dudes. I know it's really early (~4h. in) but i'd love to hear any tips from you guys.

I tried some more interesting compositions but I'm really shit at that stuff so I just decided to go with the most basic shit ever.

>>2768437
just work on practicing other textures and how to present them.
I love the colors going on in the clouds they look nice.

>>2770148
just don't paint over this, keep it as a reference

>>2770161

Why?

>>2769802

This actually looks pretty nice! I don't think the empty space on the left is doing anything positive for the image. Any updates?

>>2768442

Right arm. Doesn't matter if thats how the mail would actually fall. The uniform nature of it just looks displeasing.

>>2769802

maybe a harsher shadow for the guy. He looks a bit floaty.

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Would I be able to get a redline, or some general critique?
I've been working on human proportions (and this is miles better than anything I could have created 6 months ago). I'm getting the vertical proportions, but still things seem off.

Should I keep hammering at it? Or look at bone structure and proportions? I'm up for any advice at this point.

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Can somebody help me answer the question?

Is it ran to the left of the vertical line VP, or is it ran to the right?

I think it's actually a vertical line ran towards the Y axis, but I'm not sure.

I did all of these from imagination, so they're not precise.

>>2770170
because it's a mess and it would be a lot better if you started from scratch, keeping it clean

>>2770232
I messed up on labeling the axis.
I actually meant the X-axis.

>>2770233

Tanks for the tips bro. I still don't quite understand what you mean though. I don't think it's really hard to clean shit up in this particular instance. There's no detail anywhere. Mostly just planes of color and shit... What do you consider "clean"? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here. I just don't understand what you're talking about...

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"pleased to EAT you"

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fucking with colors at the moment. any critiques would be good.

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>>2770232
Is this how you do a rotation from any angle?

>>2770239
It's just like thousands of years ago.
You take me back to the past.
To look at shitty drawings that suck-ass

>>2770246

You did a fun job on the snow and the reflections but the explosion (?) looks fucking weird. If it's supposed to be a sunset then it's even more fucked up. Tell me what you're trying to do here and maybe I can help you, dawghh...

>>2770264
its only a wip so far. I put down that bright area as a general way to guide my color cjoices. kinda acts as an underpaint too. i would like to turn it into a normal sunset.

>>2770267

Okay, cool. I'd say this: Try to stay low saturation/low contrast for about 80% of the time. It just makes it much easier to work on your illustration at the later stages. Anyways looks pretty cool. Keep working on it du-hu-hude.

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>>2770246
It looks like an explosion instead of a sunset because it is just a big ball of light. Maybe try getting more of a horizontal thing going on, more gradients, some clouds shapes etc. The blue parts of the sky would be lighter too I think, actually in general I feel the scene would be lighter. People have skewed understandings of sunsets because of photography, but the human eye has great exposure ranges so sunsets are filled with light.

>>2767624
Maybe try using more midtones...the contract is making her look a bit scary

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Can i get a crit please? i have no idea what im doing...

>>2770281
ah i got ya. i'll be working out the sky in a bit. I havent even touched the sky yet so its literally how i started the underpaint. I do like how you did the sky. too much light hitting the path I painted out though.your's looks more like a stream with all the light reflecting. so i'm gonna keep the path with trampled snow.

thanks for the paint over, it's given me some more ideas to work with. thanks bro.

>>2770292
Oh I literally thought it was a partially frozen stream, and decided to make it completely water. Glad the rest helps though.

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>>2770246
I drew this guy on top of it.

I didn't know if you would like to see it or not, so here you go.

>>2770307
i do like the face, best part. i'd adjust the colors a bit more so they fit the pallet but i like your addition aha.

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Is there hope for me?

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I'm sharing my last study. Happened to be a hair rendering study, but I ended up drawing the face and so forth.
Still want to try a few variations.
What does /ic/ think? I'm taking a good direction? I was thinking about a in-game faceset / portrait or something.

>>2768296
>>2769584
>nobody says anything

the fuck

>>2770338
if you're doing movie scenes and dramatic lighting. read framed ink. it's good for this type of drawing.

>>2770340

I checked and I actually have it. Read it a long time ago. Gonna give it a reread, thanks for reminding me.

>>2770335
You should look up some reference, because that's not really what hair or faces look like, even if you are going for a stylization.

>>2769584
Really cool

>>2770212
/beg/

>>2769588
If you have to ask yourself, it's not.

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progress on this

>>2770288
are you going for a cartoon style?
Her eyes are too large.
They might be placed too high up her head as they are supposed to be in the middle of her head.
Try drawing a skull so you get the right placement. Her chin is too pointy.
Try drawing yourself in a mirror paying attention to detail and placement of eyes, nose, chin, etc.

>>2770335
I think you are taking it in a good direction. Although the hair has reflected light in the back, and the face does not show the same reflection.
The eyes are a little large. In most all people they are never exactly the same size/shape.

>>2770414

Is this an oil painting? Looks good although a few things.
The line work on the pears. You should overlap the edge because in nature there are no such edges. Same with the apple.
The shadow cast from the vase should be more a projection of the blue color of the liquid the flowers are in.
Good work on the cast shadow on the pear.

>>2770435
the shadows, fabric, and wall aren't done yet. what do you mean by "overlap the edge"? can you redline it or photoshop what you mean

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>>2769292
I like your rendering overall, but you really need to think more about composition (assuming you're the bekzinski landscapes anon?)
the composition here is centered vertically with almost no visual interest anywhere else
I have to force myself to look anywhere but at the tower, which is bad because most of it is well painted

>>2769776
sort of the opposite crit here in terms of comp, your colors are very nice but the canvas is going to get extremely noisy unless you plan out your values/saturation
honestly I love how it looks just like this
>>2770414
oops just saw this, why such a blue background... it's like the most saturated color on your palette. were you brian all along?
look at pic related

>>2769201
>>2769463
>>2769491
>>2769504
>>2769509
>>2769518
>>2769528
>>2769529
samefag?

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Can i get a redline? Trying for subtle depth.

I see there is no question thread up so ima ask here.
I recently wanted to get into inking, and purchesed both a copic multiliner and a felt tip brush pen.
What is the different applications of the two? In what situation should i use each?
Thanks lots.

>>2770559
>I see there is no question thread up
so create one, fucking lazy idiot.

>>2770560
considering the aggressive manner that /ic/ has i don't blame him

>>2770573
Its cool i would mainly like my question answered tho.

>>2770573
you see? he doesn't learn.

>>2770583
create a qtddtot you fucktard.
or even an inking markers thread.
create quality content for the board instead of polluting other threads.

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still working on this one

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>>2770622
other piece I did before it

>>2770622
his pose is really weird, also he and the temple things are about the same size in the picture, moving him forward to make him smaller would probably help the composition and give a nice sense of scale

>>2770630
by temple thing i mean the whole area with the rock and temple btw, him and it are the 2 biggest shapes and tilting the balance would make it more interesting, other than that and the pose its some nice work anon

>>2769131
your perspective is way off, making her look incredibly long.

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Trying to fix the lack of focus.

>>2770446
he meant paint over it, cause it shouldn't have an edge. personally, i would blend it into the pear and get rid of black outline around the apple (apple looks great, btw)

>>2770559
>>2770583

I'll answer you.

A fineliner has a stiffer and thinner nib that is best used for small details and technical drawing.

A brush pen has a softer and broader nib that is best suited for laying down larger black shapes and more organic drawing.

>>2770624
Ii like this. pretty neat looking styling on it.

>>2770780
you should fix those lack of fundamentals while you're at it

>>2770846
That's an ongoing lifelong process. Nevertheless, if you have specific fundamental crippled areas to point out, I'd appreciate it.

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how 2 make this better?

>>2770854
by erasing it

>>2767691
>vlc

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>>2770483
I'm only >>2769201
>>2769518
and
>>2769528


Could this pass as finished?

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>>2767372
latest stuff. Please tell me wat you think

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some guys

>>2770880
I think it's a very interesting drawing. Of course fundamentals arent all there but you'll definitely get better as you go on

>>2770860
study proportion. your paintings would be so good if you had the slightest idea of proportions

>>2770890
my kid can draw better than that at grade school level

>>2768638
beautiful

>>2770934
Could you elaborate on that?
Not too sure what you mean

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>>2770890

>>2770982
>>2770890
don't brush+opacity
2008 is over

>>2770425
Yes its supposed to be in a cartoon style. Knowing that, does the crit still stand the same? I'll follow your advice if so. Thank you

>>2770880
As far as design goes, the visual elements are far too cluttered and busy, particularly in the chest area.

>>2770998
wtf man?

>>2771075
at least the thumbnail looks okay

>>2770414
There's too much empty space

>>2771075
Cool concept, but there's a severe lack of cohesive style. Detail comes and goes, and not in a well thought out way. And a large portion of the left side looks like you didn't know what to do and just left it kinda shitty looking.

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>>2771089
i might do another painting of the same still life. maybe move some stuff around.

this is it done anyways

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digital duh

>>2770624
Pretty cool. You could benefit from using more skeletal structure. Some advice:
In the third pic, the humerus is way too short and the hand way too small. Look up Hale's measuring system, learn it, use it.
Use the natural gesture of the bones. Ulna has a beautiful S curve to it - to find it, think of anconeus as pulling the ulna towards the lateral epicondyle on the humerus.

>>2770212
Keys to drawing, Fun with a pencil, Drawabox, in this order. Don't worry about anatomy, it won't make your wacky drawings any better at this stage. Don't draw people just yet, start with simple objects or plants where you actually know all the forms instead of guessing them.

>>2770247
Dude, that's not how it works. Watch Vandruff's perspective series, it'll teach you vanishing traces and all that jazz.
However, you don't run lines off to the distance for every box you draw. You just draw the Y shape for the corner that's the closest to you and then lay down the remaining 3 sets of converging lines. As you draw more and more and learn perspective in depth, you'll get a hang of how much distortion needs to be applied without breaking the illusion.

>>2771139
Can I skip Keys to Drawing? This shit is depressing me. I don't want to draw my hand with the fingers facing me for 20 minutes. I get it, I really do. I just don't want to do this boring shit. Can't they make it more fun? (Can I please skip this book?)

>>2771208
yes just skip it. skip anything you want, do whatever you want

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>>2768296
>>2769584

Frame #6 (and part of #5).

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I'm trying to figure out how to make lines not shitty with my tablet. This isn't finished, but pretend it is and shit on it as if it were. It's more helpful that way.

>>2771129
great color choices man. the subtle color changes in the sky are really nice.

>>2771106
you should sign these

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studying hampton again

>>2771292

Two words: Kyle Brush

>>2771367
image seems fuzzy as heck,

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Interrogator. Pirate class fighter space ship.

>>2771430
looks like someone testing a brush making random strokes

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>>2771447
was experimenting.

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>>2771292
Okay this should be it then.

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>>2771387
Had to resize the previous image, this one might look better.

>>2771505
yeah much better that way. sizing up usually makes things fuzzy.

>>2771453
That's a pretty cool ship made entirely out of stalactites.

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>>2771556
I had to look up what that meant. Thanks dude

>>2771556
are you a cave explorer?

>>2771208
There's a reason that it's reccomended (on /ic/, out of all places) so heavily. But feel free to skip. Don't get confused when people tell you your measuring is off for months and you don't know what they mean.

>>2771556
this reads like an insult...

>>2771616
I saw it in two perspectives. Why chose the negative? either way it's cool. I like when people vent. go ahead and get it out i'm fine with it to be honest.

Apparantly my renderings are shit.

Where to learn how to render? A video, a book? Pls help guys I wanna make it.
Thanks.

>>2771630
at least put some effort in when you decide to troll. terrible.

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I get really insecure painting female portraits. so delicate and easy to ruin. is she cute? lel

>>2771776
this is amazing.

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>>2771776
Obligatory

>>2771785
no

>>2771792
sheeeiit why not?

>>2771795
her skull structure highly stylized, anime like. her facial features are fuller more realistic, creates jarring effect

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>>2770880
>>2771013
hope the shading helps

>>2767757
> Yeah if there's one thing I've inadvertently refused to draw, it's fat chicks.

Not gonna make it. Gotta learn to draw them chubbies. Nobody says you gotta fuck em. But you do have to learn to draw them.

>>2767789
This is really nice. The far eye looks little bit off though, not sure why. I would also keep the edges between the ear and hair harder. It looks muddy as is. I like the neckband a lot.

>>2768638
This is lovely. The line weight and inkwork is really nice.

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>>2771964
that looks correct. the lower hand, too much shadow between knuckles and fingers

>>2771453
cool reminds me of babilon 5 for some reason

>>2768638
nice dynamic sketches
aikido?

Also crit pls

>>2772088

I like the lines you're getting.

Do you ever have clogging or cleaning issues with the Rotring?

>>2771916
I don't want to make it. I draw for fun, and drawing fatties isn't fun

>>2772132
no, im generaly really happy with it. worth the money. it sometimes skips a line at the beginning, but if you do some doodles first its aight. Light, doesnt make your hand tired. Lies good in hand, ergonomic is the word i guess

>>2772145
>>2772132

just to clarify, the much heavier lines are done with faber-castells brush pen, Artpen doesnt give such variety (0.1-0.2 compared to microns is what i can get out of i)

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drew me and my friend

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wat do

>>2772327
burn it. then burn it's ashes. then burn the ashes of ashes.

>>2772328
wow this community is so hostile to fur art ;^)

>>2772327
head too small

>>2772333
personally it makes me cringe even more than when i see anime

>>2772327
looks like the grinch

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An abstract kind of suplex

>>2772367
I like where you're going with your style

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>>2767372
my mecha moose.

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WIP, CC welcome

>>2772489
a fucking nigger?

Guys, I'm able to draw well in low res on photoshop, but whenever in high res making lines become difficult, how do i fix this?

>>2772532
git gud

>>2772545
Well, i kinda need guidance to git gud in this case

friend of mine is livestreaming his drawing, besides me, he needs some critiques

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltAf2zGjTsM

>>2772532
Zoom out. For bigger lines. Zoom for smaller details.
Size down the image when uploading

>>2772551
Honestly I had the same problem and I just kep drawing and it got better. I also did the initial sketch at 350 to train my hand. Draw from the shoulder and get confident lines, I know its hard at first but keep at it. You get called a chickenscratching faggot enough and it WILL push you to get good. Now goodluck anon, you're going to make it.

>>2772553
well, it's a bit hard and weird but it's kinda working and i think i can get the hang of it.
>>2772556
I really need to train using my shoulder, specially because i suck at making long lines. Thanks a lot for the tip and morale boost, anon :3

>>2772532
learn how to be more patient. I used to have the same problem. in time you will push your boundaries of knowledge and some day you will find yourself looking again, how to become better. Work zoomed out for your progress of the image, get your image down real nice get your tones and everything in, to the point where it could be finished. That being said, now is where you learn patience , now is where you truly start to learn again, now you zoom in and tighten your focal points with good lines, thoughtful brush strokes, blending your tones together. You'll get there. Just keep at it.

>>2772648
Thanks a lot for the insight on this, i think i can get used to this

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Okay I was making a little guy for a webcomic which I'll probably never make, but I got caught up on his colors. Two palettes in particular I really like, but they remind me so much of already existent characters. Who in the hell is it that I'm thinking of and more importantly, would you let this guy into your house? And what if he invited you to his?

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>>2772683
The other one. I feel like the semblance should be obvious, but not for me!

>>2772489
I like this but the empty space really holds it back, are you adding anything to the right side of the painting?

>>2772684
just stop. go pick up a pencil and sketch some still life.

>>2772695
Anon, if you keep getting triggered so easily you're never gonna make it.

>>2772700
I appreciate your dubz wisdom, anon thank you. But honestly I've accepted the fact "making it" is just another seasonal time job but pays minimum wage, I have no problem avoiding this and I accept my fate.

>never gonna make

>>2772683
my wrist hurts just looking at this

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can feel passion for art slipping, might be confirmed ngmi

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>>2772849
I'm sorry. Is it because it's messy or are you bodily ood by his intense pointing angle?

I made more men though.

>>2772882
3rd grade arts & craft tier

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Hi. Give me some critique please.

>>2772884
Once you realize you don't have to color inside the lines your world goes wide open, man.

>>2772888
retard

>>2772895
ooers L/R out here

>>2772886
the boring stiff pose can work if that's the sort of strict uptight character she is. her right hand seems a bit small and the way her hair falls on her right side along her right arm and shoulder is a bit weird, might take away from how well the character silhouette reads design wise.

I like the nice simple design but I feel the boob window is a bit dumb. I'd suggest closing it with a symbol or insignia related to whatever nation or empire she belongs to (as she seems royalty-esque).

>>2772862
Nose off center
Eyes are a bit high up

>>2772919
Thanks a lot, I will try to fix this

>>2772690
I might, I'm thinking maybe some sort of clay pot to keep the warm tones constant

New thread: >>2773032

New thread: >>2773032

New thread: >>2773032

>>2772327
change the head
outline the hand

>>2772088
Yeah it is Aikido good job anon.