DRAW THREAD

>>2740376
Really nice. Are you using much ref on these? My only crit for this one is that the trees seem like the branches are too thick and uniform. It would be nicer I think if you used smaller brushes or tried to get more specific shapes that reflect how it grows.

>>2740396
This is close to being good, but it feels sort of plastic and stiff. If you relaxed his pose a bit, made things feel more natural and unified, fixed the feet which are out of perspective, and then maybe edited the background slightly so the cast shadow and colours are correct, you could have a nice image.

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Oil painting

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>>2740450
Wrong photo, this is finished version

>>2740453
It looks like you weren't using any reference on this, because things are poorly drawn and painted. Either find some reference and fix it up, or if you are already following one then observe it much more closely.

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>>2740376
Beautiful, especially for being only a warm up. The reflections in the water doesn't make much sense to me. The water could mirror the moutnains more I think.

>>2740396
Really cool costume design. My advice would be to try pushing the dark occuluding shadows. a bit more.

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>>2740495
Proportions seem a bit odd, and the foreshortening is not well handled on the arm. I think too the pale skin makes it not look very native american.

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Grinddd

Trying to get away from the simplicity of that Viking's colours

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>>2740495
>The water could mirror the moutnains more I think.
Not that anon, but this interested me and after looking up some images I think the reflection makes sense. I'm not sure why, I guess it depends on the viewing angle and the surface texture of the water, but with a moonlight reflection like this, it seems perfectly possible that there are no visible mountain reflections.

>>2740376
That is some sexy ass snow.
I recognize your brushwork. When was the last time you posted on /ic/? Must've been years. How are you holding up?

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>>2740376
the creamy foam effect works better for snow than it did for your clouds, but still you need to paint something other than white fluffy things... how do you handle greener scenes.

I did a nude figure painting. about an hour and a half of painting. had to pick up the pace at the end of the pose, not used to such short sessions for paintings... i spent a whole 25 minutes on the face then had to rush through the rest, but it's probably better for me in the end if I can paint speedy

shes the same woman from the figure drawings in the last thread

>>2740801
Your chroma is messed up in each section--the face is strong yellow, the torso and arms are a nice skin color, the stomach is ashy grey, the legs are orange. It gives the impression each body part is from a different person and she looks like frankenstein's monster.

>>2740805
>she looks like frankenstein's monster.
a tad dramatic. theres some slight chroma issues I can fix when it dries, but she doesn't look nearly as freakish as you're saying. "frankenstein's monster"? there's some anon that said that about another painting of mine and it was exaggerating then too. i'm guessing you're that anon.

>>2740809
I don't remember saying it before but I may have said it. You often mess up the chroma in different parts.

>>2740810
an hour and a half is just not enough time to get it right on the first pass. i've only got so much focus and it's more important to block it in and add effect/adjust after the fact

>>2740810
how do you feel about the background?

>>2740811
Fair enough. Fix up the colours to unify the figure more when it is dry then, and finish the hands and feet which are missing a lot of information.

>>2740812
It works pretty well actually, and I like it more than your regular backgrounds lately. I think you go just a bit too strong in the bottom right corner, almost like it is a flame down there, and it grabs the eye away from the figure. I also think you can repaint how the background meets the couch in the top left as it is creating that ugly jagged contour.

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[fun in progress] / [[[[haven't decided on the background elements / space ship place holder//]]]

if your not having fun whats the point?

>>2740815
>if your not having fun whats the point?

To git gud.

>>2740503
You got a blog? I've seen so many of your paintovers in the past few months

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>>2740815
w.i.p (no.3) 11_11_16

still needs background elements :D

>>2740946
i love and hate it.

Your ideas are cool, but your rendering is unappealing as fuck to me

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After three years in the making.

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progressin

>>2740950
get a refund on your three years.

work on learning facial construction.

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>>2740946
your value structure is basically nonexistant, your characters blend into the environment in it and the overall composition is bland. You really don't have any edge variation. You have no cast light or general AO on your characters, with no distinguishable light in your environment. Your characters are placed weird, they feel fucking 20' tall, and its usually not a good idea to cut a characters feet off. Also your proportions and and foreshortening are off. I like the colors though.

>>2740952
nice work anon

>>2740964
>>2740948
great feedback thank you!

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Not 100% sure where I will go with this, still super rough, does the foreground need to be bigger? I.E closer to the camera? Also thought to add something, where to moon or whatever is, should prolly be the focus point right?

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I need help to draw a horse, there is my first try, I dont know if its cool or not, a need advices or comments plz :o thx :) sry shity phone cam

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the learning curve on this piece is fucking takes ages.

ah well, im learning a lot.

>>2741016
Thumbnail looks nice, good values. The drawing and painting is a bit wonky though but I'm interested to see what comes out of this.

>>2741002

If you don't mind the input of an art noob, here's my view on it:
I like the overall choice of colors, they work really well together, but I feel like there's too little contrast between the palm tree and the sky (and generally the darker areas). It feels a lot like the top of the palm tree bleeds into the sky.
The sea feels a bit undefined, maybe a few contrasting colors would help here, as well as something happening. (Waves, water structure, anything like that)
I am very confused by the splotches between the sky and the sea, I'm guessing that it's supposed to be a color transition in the sky? Anyways, that part feels a bit like you couldn't decide if you wanted to include fog, clouds or something of the like.
Overall I like this work a lot, and I would love to see where you end up with it.
Not sure if this is at all helpful, since again, I'm really not even close to the level of art on this board and have no training whatsoever when it comes to constructing a picture.

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Please help, why does it look so crappy?
Its supposed to be a sunrise from behind btw

>>2741023
i stopped trying all the shiny bullshit and its already turning out a shit ton better.

playing around with the pose too, to make it more interesting.

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>>2741050
forgot image.

>>2741040
it doesn't look crappy the blue on the sky is a bit too dark and deep but otherwise looks really nice

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Some sort of Russian prince/ boyar

>>2741040
only the stairs look stupid, leave the rest like it is

>>2741051
paint looser, you will get frustrated and blow your fucking brains out if you keep trying to clean as you go. Painting quickly will save you ass on this one.

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>>2741040
yeah that blue in the sky is crazy... if other areas were as chromatic i guess it could work, but that's not really what the medium is good for anyways. good job on the reflection though, and the foreground elements look nice.

i editted this. think i brought the colors up to where they need to be

>>2741144
wtf brian, your mom's getting naked for you now?

>>2741147
that's not my mom, it's famous comedian Maya Rudolph you dumbass

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>>2741062
>>2741076
>>2741144
Thanks for advice everyone, i tried to fix what possible& add contrast

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>>2741144

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witch princess for the tower girls challenge, im starting to realize I can't really paint without using really saturated colors, i have to start doing more life drawings and color studies.

>>2741172
Made me laugh, but to be fair to him the anatomy is the same on cows and humans basically and those are the same bones causing those bumps.

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>>2740419
>Are you using much ref on these?
No, not really.

>>2741190
hnnnnng

>>2741190
though this is another example of "enigmatic figure in the foreground of a environment" it doesn't feel cliched. Nice work

>>2740503
Thank, I will will take that in consideration when moving forward.

>>2740376
BLOG PLS. Unironically.

>>2741181
Really nice looking, anon!

>>2741149
Yeah sure dog

>>2740801
i like it

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About 30% done... Still figuring out the design of her costume and shit. Just started doing the head dressing thingy. Needs more bling and stuff. Will be adding some complicated engraved stuff to all of her armor etc. Going for that Applibot vibe without all the tits and animu shit. Gonna make her head more scary and stuff. Justin Sweet style or something... C&C/Overpainting encouraged. I've been looking at this shit for way too long now and flipping the canvas isn't helping anymore...

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>>2741051

The composition was much better yesterday. Just get rid of the verticality problem on the branch she's standing on. I still like your values but but... Don't lose your confidence because of some shitty comments on /ic/. The pose wasn't terribly bad either. Just loosen up her other arm or something. (Sorry for posting your image from yesterday but take a good look at it. It was never bad. You never should have changed it as much as you did imo, especially the composition!)

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>>2740851
I don't want to put my name with these paintovers as they are just something I do on the side for the fun of trying to solve problems and to help people out, not for any recognition. And while a lot of them people find helpful, every now and then I get attacked for them, so don't want my actual name with it. I'm sure I've given out some bad advice by accident at points on these too, since I've done literally hundreds of them. You can see from the filename how high it is, and not all are numbered, and this is just for ones I did on this computer.

>>2741286
This looks really dope. I couldn't help but doodle on top a bit. I think you can focus on getting a clearer value read on the whole thing, and really try to control and understand the light sources and colour temperatures. I think the fires would be a lot warmer and there would be more warm ambient light in the background. Google for images of cities on fire at night and you will see it is actually much more extreme than I even painted over since they tend to kick up a lot of smoke too which then diffuses all that warm light everywhere. I also don't like how you lit the scene with the glow from her hand, maybe either downplay it like I did (instead I used the moonlight more), or maybe you can try to make the colour of it a bit stronger green instead of that pale whitish colour, and you can push how it lights the scene too in a more interesting way. Up to you on how to handle it.

I also think you should spend some time designing whatever she is holding in her other hand. A lot of the composition is focused on that since the shape is against the background, so make it right. I just put in some generic scepter but you can do better.

I know you want to detail this out all blingy, but it's a night time image and in this case I think the mood of the piece in more important, so don't go putting details in areas where they wouldn't really be visible.

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>>2741312
I don't like the palette you gave it, I think it would work better with a redder tone, like pic related.
Gj, as usual. You do fuckup sometimes, but hey, you provide some much help that one would have to be a massive pozzed faggot to complain to you.

>>2741312

Amazing points and awesome paintover man. Thank you! The structure of warm BG vs cold FG is weird but I see that it works in your paintover so I'll be doing something similar on my piece as well. I actually downplayed the saturation of the background just before I posted it so I'm gonna have to go back and undo some of that.

You're also right about the fact that I should spend more time on the staff on her hand. Leaving it blank for now was intentional since the guys I'm doing this for aren't sure if the thing is necessary for this character but yeah. I really need to bling it up so they'll buy it as I do think that it's necessary for breaking the vertical lines in the piece.

Also don't worry about people attacking you for what ever. Anyone complaining about feedback is a fucking moron and you shouldn't care about them. It's pretty clear that you're out to help me here and I'd have to be a fucking retard to get angry over any of this stuff...

Thanks and peace out. You're the man!

>>2741331

Oh and thanks to you too. Do you guys think I should simplify the sky though as you've both done it in your overpaints?

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2 studies

>>2741144
excluding the hip and the eyes looking in a different direction its nice! gj

>>2741331
Good point on the colour, I wasn't sure if it should be shifted redder but I think it might work nicer that way.

> You do fuckup sometimes, but hey, you provide some much help that one would have to be a massive pozzed faggot to complain to you
Well not every paintover I do is all that great. Maybe one in ten I do I get several people telling me that I ruined the original or that I'm not good enough to be doing paintovers or they just plain insult me. Sometimes I do probably ruin things a bit so I don't mind too much usually. It still seems safest to keep this separate from my name though.

>>2741341
Glad it helps. I don't think the warm bg and cold fg is a problem, it may not be as commonly used as the reverse but in this situation I think it makes the most sense.

>>2741344
I felt the image was a bit busy with those clouds so yeah I think it makes sense to simplify it. It's digital so you can just try things out and see how they look though, so maybe a different approach would work too like having big billowing plumes of smoke rising from the city. You can also keep clouds there and just make sure they are subtle, maybe get some more ref to see what clouds look like at night as it will be different than during the day.

>>2741345
I sense potential in you, anon.

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>>2741366
Right size this time, sorry am retarded

>>2741368
Never mind I'm super retarded

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>>2741366
30 years late. Good reference nonetheless

>>2741368
Anatomy and idea looks great (except the abs) but STOP USING THOSE SOFT BRUSHES! Look at guys like dave rapoza and I dunno... Daarken maybe? Or Anthony Jones maube. Just go in with hard strokes and confidence. Kill the saturation for now. I wish I was on my computer so I could do a paintover...

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Attempted a spider dragon design, is it working?

>>2741360
From two crummy sketches?

>>2741426
proportions are off but lines are mostly good, good sense of volume and it's quite expressive

>>2741402
DA tier

>>2741368
polished turd DA tier

>>2741402
Kinda boring composition since it's facing us straight on and nothing really seems very scary. I'd suggest moving the tail to either side of the creature since your values blend with each other a lot, try increasing the contrast. Also that is not how wings work

>>2741360
Thanks Anon!

>>2741131
I'm slowly going insane because of this exact reason.
>>2741062
Yeah, I like the old one better too.

This piece is a fucking time sink and a learning curve and a half fuck my ass

>>2741445
I replied to the wrong cunt fuck me

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Roberto Ferri warmup study

>>2741505
i prolly shouldve resized, my b

>>2741522
The water looks cool.

>>2741522
This looks potential. The hand is too long. To be completely honest I think this'd be better without the dude in the foreground taking the pic. It just feels tacky. Just have him walking around or get rid of him all together.

>>2741522
you got potential with composition and atmosphere and value organization, but your fundamentals are beginner level. Kind of an unusual combo.

>>2741596
A lot of really early work by pros is like that. It's a sign of potential because even though the technique is bad there is still something to the image.

>>2741522
Amazing job. Love how you have the rough ghost paint streak style. The composition could use some work. It's obvious that the main focal point is the statue and the second is the human but the human seems too distracting and kinda overpowers the statue in terms of attention. Also, a side shot seems too boring, try mixing it up where to see him in a 3/4 view.

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>>2741368

>>2741371
Continuing from my initial post.. I got home and I got to do the quick overpainting. I just had to. I love the initial werewolf thing and I think it could become awesome!

I don't think you're educated enough to do the crazy top down perspective on the character so I'd go with something a little more basic. Just use broad strokes. I'd maybe even put some clothes on him to make it appear as if he was actually transformed into a fucking werewolf and that might be interesting but I ain't got time for none of that shit... Hope this helps etc.

>>2741603
>>2741608
These show that you know how to draw but I feel like they also show you are only putting in half effort. Don't hold yourself back by being lazy or not fully trying, even if they are just throwaway sketches.

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>>2741615

>>2741618
Blog?

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>>2737888

>>2739038
thx!

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ayy guys. something I finished up just now.

>>2741637
Beatiful.

>>2741641
I didn't really get it until I read the filename. If you want it walking maybe make some roots at the bases that resemble feet a bit, and you can have one or two of the trunks lifted off the ground as though it is mid-walk.

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>>2741636

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Paintover and pointers encouraged

>>2741657
I'm srs.

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>>2741672
>>2741657

>>2741664
i think the purple bits need something. and the part purple bit that goes through his hair near the temple looks odd. Looks really 2d, also I would probably just stick them on the visible skin, and not where the hair is? unless that's the look you wanted.

also i think the ear could come forward a little, along with his hairline on the left

>>2741664
>>2741693
i like the color of it looking at the thumbnail. could possibly warm up the background a lil

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my portrait of big boss please critique

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>>2741664

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>>2741664
Colours seem a bit washed out to me, also if those are cast shadows on the wall behind him from something out of the image you can soften their edges a bit since the penumbra would be stronger.

>>2741699
Nice but it's pretty blurry. It can use a few sharper edges in key places. Colours are also a bit muddy.

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I really need help with this one, I didn't had a reference and the legs seem really bad.

I dont think they bend like this.

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>>2741693
>>2741695
Tried to up the saturation of the colors, and fixed the ear structure. The purple-y bits did look off, ty for pointing that out
>>2741701
holy moly anon, it looks neato. Yours makes it have a mexian/western alien feel to it because of the bar-looking things, which is a pretty cool direction to take. Can you explain a bit more about the penumbra thing and the shadows?

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>>2741664
v a l u e s

>>2741707
>holy moly anon, it looks neato. Yours makes it have a mexian/western alien feel to it because of the bar-looking things, which is a pretty cool direction to take. Can you explain a bit more about the penumbra thing and the shadows?
Basically the farther a shadow is cast the softer it gets. Since a light source is not an infinitely small point but rather has dimension, that means there are light waves coming from each part of it, and then when you trace it for the cast shadow there are some areas along the edge that are only hit by some parts of the light source and not the whole thing. As you get farther away this area gets bigger since you're tracing outwards from a small area. Not sure I'm explaining it that well to be honest, but just take note of how the edges of cast shadow looks when things are at different distances. You can test it out yourself by turning on your desk lamp and putting your hand there to cast a shadow on your desk, and depending how close your hand is to the desk the appearance of the shadow should change a fair bit.

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behold my imperfections

>>2741715
ooh I get it. Haven't really thought about that before, thanks anon god bless
>>2741710
that's spicy

>>2741710
hiding hands I see? amateur

>>2741190

is that Trumps wall and is that America?

>>2741637

nice work firez. Just a quick question you handle rendering very nicely now I see your art making a lot of subtle progress over time that is building up, the hours are paying off eh' buddy. All I was wondering is have you looked into the concept of ambient occlusion, you probably have done but I just thought that maybe if you could strengthen that aspect of your art it would work as a good method to assist you.

AO can be rendered in many different ways but is a good method to introduce linework into your full renders whilst still have it feel very realistic like what you're going for here.

http://artvault.tumblr.com/post/106419321367/alex-negrea-1-rough-line-art-i-usually-do-a

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GDL9Bp_YZj0/S6mt2HuOLbI/AAAAAAAABXI/CoE65gpceHc/s1600/Grump4.jpg

I cant remember the artist but he paints his figures with AO, hes on artstation I'll have to find him and post back here for you.

Just a thought to look into. as I think the lines on your work really detract from the entire 3 dimensional realism you;re going for in the render process.

Keep it up man love seeing you post!

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does anyone know how the fuck to draw lineart for a choppy sea? I'm sitting here with my thumbs up my ass

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>>2740946
..........continuation. . . .

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Fuck me up. What do I need to fix before I watercolor it?

>>2741779
Stop been a cuck.

>>2741779
Putting aside the bitch subject matter, you objectively belong in the beginner thread.

>>2741779
r u 15?

>>2741812
I'm a 20 year old female.

>>2741779
Before watercolouring make sure to burn the whole thing

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I took a much looser approach and tried to just paint and not get bogged down in details.

>>2741883
>I wrote 13 in the sketch for the signature

I'm a fucking moron.

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what do you guys think? its an attempt at something looser, more free. the first chapters of bert dodsons keys to drawing really left an impression on me

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>>2741893
these are of my friends FYI

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>>2741883
your noise filter is over powering everything

maybe use a masks ( mask th noise out of the character and leave noise in the background.)

push streak lights coming through tree tops?

>>2741900
Yeah, I feel the noise overpowering the character too.

I'll chuck in some masks and see how we go.

Not too keen on light rays, even though it'll create some visual interest, I want to keep it very misty and soft.

>>2741894
Really like this one!

>>2741904
then a soft light layer, highlighingt your background
is also a easy alternative.

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>tfw you thought as a kid you would be famous artist when "grown up"

Pfft i hit 18 recently and all i want now is satification with my own work; who else had these delusions?

>>2741922
>18
>grown up

Dude, you're only 6 years older than a 12 year old.

>>2741922
within the last decade you were still learning multiplication

less whining pls

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Caricature and sort-of values practice

>>2741934
I dont know about you but to me as 12 y.o 18 seemed really old

>>2741982
and now i'm 21 and i realize im still a child, i just pay taxes and bills

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>>2741036
Thanks for the feedback, still struggling with the water, did some changes tho, currently lacking a light source tho

>>2742026
>>2741982
you only become an intelligent adult at the age of 25. anything below you're still a kid and got a lot of growing up to do.

18 year old is a baby in a big body.

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>>2740967
thanks anon.

>>2742071
I know 70 year olds who call 45 year olds children.

It's all relative.

>>2741814
Go to the beginner thread.

>>2742072
big fan of your work lemon

>>2742072
looks layered and artificial. you should work on creating the "painterly" look. not a big fan of this stuff.

>>2741064
this fucking rocks dude.

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first time attempting to do a simple full illustration, still a wip

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>>2742273
Very nice start! I think you can be a bit more consistent in your lighting--really think about what angle the light is coming from and whether each plane will be hit by the light or not. For example you put her face in darkness but based on the rest of the information of lighting and the way you did her hair in light, her facetoo would have more direct like on it. I think her head is sitting on her body a bit wrong too so I corrected that slightly, and the windows were looking a strange value so I darkened them as though it is nighttime.

>>2742287
good additions. not necessarily because it's more accurate but because it's much easier to read, just compare the two thumbnails. in a scene like this is makes sense to highlight the face like so

>>2742287
Thanks a lot! I think ill keep the pose/angle of the book and maybe darken the blue outside and Ill definetely change the lighting :) This is really useful

>>2742304
Well it reads clearer because the lighting is more consistent.

>>2742307
Glad it helps!

>>2742323
Yeah i used a reference for the lighting actually. I think it may be consistent on the reference enviroment but dont match this one. Also the hair is too lit up, so yeah this one makes a lot more sense :) It may be because im taking my first steps on doing illustrations but creating lighting from imagination seems extremely complicated to me.

>>2742329
For an early attempt at illustration it's really good actually. Lighting can be tricky to handle in a full scene, but just logically work it out and you will be fine. Light follows physics so you can just think through and figure out how things should look. Using reference of course always makes it easier.

>>2741906
thank you! I drew it

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drew this. its cold outside today. i might go back tomorrow and draw the same spot during the daytime. im happy with how i handled the fence, i just have a hard time doing very straight lines when im standing up and drawing.

>>2741371
>>2741600
Appreciate the advice. Looking back I whole I agree that the abs look like shit, there was always something off about them to me that I couldn't put my finger on.

And yeah, I think I made it too hard on myself with the top down perspective. Made it difficult to figure out where to incorporate shadows.

>>2741371
What brushes would you recommend? I've been trying to find the right ones.

>>2741974

Dude wtf it's ugly as hell. You could use some line variation aswell.

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>>2741653
Thanks!

>>2741747
I appreciate the info since I'm very messy with my workflow.

AO is something which I try to be aware in mono rendering and even linework, I even remember using something similar for pic related, here is part of its process:

http://firez-tbr.tumblr.com/post/140476024666/i-wish-tumblr-didnt-compress-these-thumbnails

I will try to retake that path and be more organized next time.

Thanks a lot!

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Rest in peace King of Thailand

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>>2741779

Not even a trump supporter but seriously anon?

Seriously?

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rough a doodle-doo, quick like the devil's silver spoon

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trying to learn darker skintones
will i ever draw anything that isnt a face on a plain background

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whoever was the anon that told me to not get bogged down in details and just paint values and colours.

You've leveled me up, and I love you.

anyway, another character sketch.

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>>2740358
ALEX JONES IS DANCING WITH HOT NAKED CHICKS IT ISNT FAIR I WANT TO BE THAT LUCKY HE IS DROWNING IN BOOS LOL IF YOU EVER WANT TO DRAW SEXY PICTURE YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK HAHA!

>>2742706
your construction seems all off, study your anatomy you fucking cuck z

also, in blackfaces, introduce subtle greens, blues and purples and they look hella good.

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can sb pls stab me to death

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Sketch

bro no lie. I fucking LOVE those colors.

>>2742746
holy shit what the fuck anon

>>2742706
looks good imo. study the mouth and the areas around the mouth more, they're way off. specifically missing some highlights at the top of the mouth. also, the cheeks are too defined, but thats just me.

the chin looks really weird for the style you're going for. it is acceptable, but not very aesthetic.

>>2741010
looks like a horse

>>2742777
this is for >>2742767

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>>2742730
diggin it

more studies :(

>>2741345
Noses are long, and that isnt aesthetic. the forehead for the lady is smaller than it should be. But if this is stylization then keep on going.

>>2742752
>>2742788
thanks for the tips!
i have the feeling that i have a difficulty recognizing the mistakes i make with facial construction. i always have this feeling that i am doing it kinda correctly, but there is obviously always something wrong that people with a more trained eye can immediately see. its kind of depressing. will definitely study faces more!

>>2742793
aa thank you anon i am glad

>>2742794
Looks nice anon. I'd like to see the finished version.

>>2742794
the colors look pretty realistic. the only thing that bothers me are the brushstrokes i guess, some sharper edges in some places and some blending in others would probably make it look a bit more defined.

>>2742464
Found it pretty nice!

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>>2742730

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Tried to remove some lines as anon suggested, I guess I'm done with it.

Did a bit of figure drawing after watching some proko's videos

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Is this an alright composition?

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I wish I was as excited as when Pokemon Gold and Silver came out for the DS.

I don't I'll get Sun and Moon at launch.

>>2742796
Ya, I did those without any construction and when I freehand I always make noses to long : (

>>2742821
That looks nothing like a dolphin.

>>2741922
That artwork on the bottom reminds me of Hitler's own style.

>>2742945
why you also copying others and using the noise filter? its ruining your hard work.

who's the famous person that said use noise filter???

masks if your gonna and have to and cant help your self -use it for pete's sake. MASKS !

>>2742950
I LIKE THE FILM GRAINNNNN

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Fucking mess but I ran out of time.

Owlboy fanart for an Owlboy competition to win a copy of Owlboy. So it might not be accurate. I haven’t played it.

>>2742949
kek they better accept me to the art uni

Can anyone give some advice please?
I'm beginning to draw digitally after several months drawing on paper. I'm on a mac using firealpaca drawing with a wacom bamboo drawing tablet. I have a few questions and issues though
What are some settings that I need to know about and what should I set them to? (things like brush size, alias or antialias)
How do you make those rough sketches of characters where you draw circles and lines using them as guidelines for the locations of the nose, eyes, mouth etc for weird alien characters with a snout, tube mouth or don't have a circular face?
How do you go about shading? I'm fine with where and how much shading there should be, it's picking the right color, like when I'm trying to pick a color to shade with it looks out of place.

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Critique and interpretation on this please? Does this painting lack focus?

>>2742985
Use antialias unless you want a MS paint kind of look.
Turn correction on (Stabilizes your pen)
Look up books in the book thread. The Loomis books cover how to use guidelines for faces.
Shading can be done using the colorpick sandwich method or whatever they call it.

Firealpaca is a great software, I learned a lot using it. Hope I helped.

>>2743007
noted, thanks.
Gonna need some more info on that colorpick sandwich thing, though

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pruhgressin

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>>2742950
idk who you're refering to specifically but i once saw a saching teng tutorial where he said to use noise on every separate layer something from 4-7% and it honestly helped a lot, when you color pick your own drawing you get far richer colors that work within the area you're drawing, then reapply. When you apply it to different layers it doesn't look as uniform as opposed to just doing in it in the final image where it brings nothing.

If you're using it just because of the flashy results it'll probably look like shit, just like any other filter, if you have a good understanding of values/color it's just like any other tool, it can only work in your favor.

pic related is the one he went through in said tutorial

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Some development for the nomad princess from the tg, they all look kinda similar but I'm just trying to figure what pose/body type works better. I already have a clear idea on clothing/assets so it's just her body for now.

halp

>>2743075
it works in his artwork because the shading/coloring scheme is pretty flat/cell-like
he gives the drawing depth through simplicity
with a fully rendered, somewhat realistic painting the noise filter can actually hurt a lot. in some areas it can work, but most of the time you just lose brushstrokes/texture

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Currently studying values.

Any criticism is welcome.

>>2743109
Don't study values on a pure white background dude.

>>2743029
His arm is too short, the right leg is too short (incorrect perspective), and the feet are too small. Great rendering though.

>>2743174
ill fix em up once i get around to those bits

>>2742501
>ugly
elaborate
also, there is line variation

>>2743223
It is kitsch and looks like a wikihow illustration. One stroke for the outline and one stroke for the inside is not really line variation.

>>2742823
well it looks like a parking garage

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Gonna try and go from start to finish with a sketch.
Usually pretty bad at actually finishing my shit.

>>2741181
it's really good but her left leg is twisted in a weird way. or at least her foot is

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second pass at this drawing. it was so windy but i managed to get the gist of it down.

now i just need to focus and stipple the sky and sand convincingly without completely losing my mind/getting arthritis.

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How is this looking so far?

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>>2740358
Haven't drawn in months, America's impending Greatness has reinvigorated me.

>>2741779
If this isn't ironic, end your life.

>>2741779
This is hilarious

>>2743526
not bad, but try to stop making so many chicken scratches in general specially around the hands and feet. is she suppose to be holding something on her left hand?

>>2743278
good man.

I'm
>>2742945
and finishing pieces, no matter if they are good or not is the most important part of art.

Your finished drawings become studies on material, light, form and values, and as you work through each one of those problems, you feel yourself becoming better.

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how can i make this read a little easier?

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did more to this. think im done. maybe ill make it into a painting, not sure yet. kinda just want to do another drawing tomorrow

>>2742794
Love the realistic colors. Her big eyes feel silly to me though next to her other facial features.

>>2743526
shes got some massive arms yo

>>2743704
you get lazier every day.

>>2743707
i can not disagree

>>2743007
The fuck is this hipster garbage? No tits ass dragons or spacemarines?

>>2743713
Agreed. Needs more ass dragons

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it happened
i think i forgot how to draw

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finished

>>2743922
Nice rendering and all. Feet aren't quite flat in the ground, though, and you forgot to give the torso-being floating abomination a cast shadow.

>>2743924
feet are rather tricky

>>2743925
no excuse

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mapping out values.

>>2741863
lol

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First time using Photoshop. Am I doing it right? Any suggestions?

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Been trying to practice backgrounds as of late, character might be a little hard to read?

>>2741699
Disdain for plebs, eh?

>>2744000

Weird, the thumbnail makes it look like it could be a pretty sweet Stålenhag-esque painting

>>2741064
If the head wasn't tiny then it would look great

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>>2743077

>>2744013
reflection is not done well, makes your terminator look like King Crimson. not sure how i would go about improving it other than just removing it, or doing the drawing 4x larger and going from there

>>2741016
I can't feel the weight of the character at all. Legs are on the ground but feels like it's floating.

>>2741103
I want the 90's back. Looks nice

>>2741190
Mother fucker this is good

>>2741748
Paint it, then fail, then paint it again. DOIT

>>2741974
LINE WEIGHT

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I am thinking about starting deviantart page, so take a look at my attempts. Do I have a chance?
P.S. sorry for bad English

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and one more

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and the last

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>>2744128
finished

>>2744296
>>2744297
Pretty ok oerall, but shit-tier anatomy. You really need to work on that.
>>2744299
plain god awful, /beg/ level

that said, start to git gud man, if your drawing skills are upped you'll be good to go.

>>2744291
what can you distinguish on that thumbnail?

>>2744303
I think it would be better with a bit of hue variation and textures instead of flats, it goes better with your style and lines.

>>2744297
so good it almost overshadows the bad. love your colors, especially the clouds.

blurry buildings and background make great city building look like a screenshot of a movie, and not in a good way. Eva anatomy looks fucked up, especially the neck and jaw and shoulders and elbows and chest. actually, it looks like its got one big leg coming out of its pelvis with an auxiliary leg to the right. finally the exploding wrist or building is just necessary action in an otherwise complete scene. you dont need dynamic shit going on in just one small section, it ruins the atmosphere

>>2744306
Tnx! Yeah, the third one is horrible,
although I used reference.

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>>2743658
progress

>>2744312
Tnx for critique!
I tried do some kind of old multiplication effect with this blur

>>2744318
really the exploding wrist and blurr are the worst part. overall a normal person would not register whats wrong with the anatomy, but its good to know what to work on for next time

draw some angels fighting evas if you want to use explosions and blur

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life drawing

>>2744423
He looks like he's made of hot dogs. Pay closer attention to variance in contours and stop relying so heavily on construction. It's ruining your drawings.

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>>2744429
Can you elaborate on that? I really don't understand what you mean.

>>2744303
poor design, it appears as if the bag is floating.

>>2742794

>>2741747

>>2742821

Quite an improvement dude, Keep going with the AO its a really complex thing and i struggle with it myself, but i see so many artists utilising its subtleties to produce some really good results.

>>2742491

Shorry for the late reply... Just download Pelengs brushes. Keep it simple. Use hard brushes untill you got your ideas down.

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>>2744434
you are constructing the drawing, but following the construction too strictly. it's almost like you are constructing it, then for the rest you are using your imagination and memory instead of referencing the model. You are just tracing an outline you've made.

personally I find it best to just do no construction like i did for the bottom one, and only draw the subject once. it might lead to more mistakes early on but it'll be much better for you in the long run. you'll draw things twice as fast, and the likeness will be more accurate.

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>Had to take 7 days off from drawing
>Just after I learned how to do legs

What's the worst thing about this?
Is it mis-proportional?

>>2744459
Also, there's no real gesture here so please excuse the stiffness. I just wanted to see what I remembered from studying anatomy.

>>2744459
draw from life don't waste your time drawing photos and "learning anatomy"

>>2744457
ah thank you, I see it now. I do tend to go overboard with construction sometimes because I want to understand the thing I'm drawing, instead of simply copying. Maybe it has to do with reading Hampton too much.

>>2744461
So you're essentially saying once I know the muscles exist and where they attach, I should learn the forms from life drawing?

>>2744464
you need to learn to copy first before you can do anything else. once you can copy exactly what you are drawing making actual fine art comes fairly quickly afterwards. do the boring stuff early on so you can have fun later.

>>2744468
no, im saying you should learn to draw from life instead of using your memory and imagination. if you are an artist, I should be able to point at anything in a room and you should be able to draw it.

>>2744476
Well, it certainly can't hurt.
I've been getting really tired of drawing from anatomy books anyway.

>>2744476
I think you understand a lot.
I've thought about how you could spot the fundamental issue with my drawing skills, and I'm grateful that you told me so.

Thanks for setting me on the right track man.

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messing around with digital.

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need to fix my lineweight, my proportions, my right hand, perspective
>pretty much need to fix everything

>>2744476
I've come to realize something.
You're predominately upset over the lack of form in the "anatomy" as you've correctly stated.

I see now that I've been letting the muscles control me, and not the other way around. Virtually none of the arm muscles are truly constructed, and they're simply flat, 2D shapes devoid of any sort of form. I've simply been arranging them according to insertion, and that's pretty obvious to someone that can actually draw human anatomy.

I'll still take your advice and do some life-drawing for 25 hours as I need to brush up on it anyway, but I'm fairly certain this is the true heart of the problem. Once I'm done with that, I'll go ahead and read Michael Hampton's figure drawing book once more. I read it in little increments and I had no clue as to what I was really drawing since I had no background in anatomy the first time around, so I was creating "arms" that were more like tubes with spheres.

Now I see where I was really screwing up.

Don't people use real pencils and paint anymore. You millennial fags are depressing me with digital shit.

Fuck.

>>2744540
mad cuz no tablet

>>2744541
I have a tablet. I still think 99.9999 percent of computer shit is gay.

The same thing goes for the fact that the do cgi instead of real animation anymore.

Superfaggots ruining art with lazy shit.

>>2744544
>99% of computer shit is gay

You sound 14 years old.
May I interest you in some Judas Priest albums?

>>2744544
Well just because it's digital doesn't take away from the fact that it's art nonetheless.

While I agree CGI is more widely used, it more convenient really.

The last statement implies you are saying that every digital artist is ruining art. I don't think that's necessarily true.

I can tell you that the main reason I switched to digital was to save money in the long run, I don't have money lying around to spend so I can't do traditional as much as I wanted to until I can get a few paychecks rolling in, now I can't say that all people that switched to digital were doing it for the convenience or money saving factor, but I just know that it's kind of a new take on art, and since technology is ascending at somewhat a decent rate, it's better to get with the times.

>>2744546
I've been living after midnight for a long time slutface. Liking pre 90s music doesn't make you a teenager.

How the fuck does that logic work?

>>2744544
I don't see why you would burn through hundreds of pages of paper just to have a hard time transferring all of that knowledge to a digital medium.

>>2744549
I was 14 when I got into Judas Priest, and I still like them to this day.

>>2744547
It literally does, because you are having a computer estimate and infer your intentions. Filters, a lack of precision, poor changes between between line quality. People are being lazy and it translates into shitty work.

>>2744554
Well don't assume it ALL translates into shitty work. Look at Kim Jung Meme for example, he can translate his traditional stuff into digital without any extra bullshit and it looks just as good, sometimes if not better.

>>2744546
Dude fuck you Judas is great

>>2744540
you just mad because you cant draw, or use tablets you whiny pissbaby. git gud

>>2744519
is she supposed to look like hitler? otherwise, good.

you should use different brushes

>>2741705
not really the bend, but the knees. make knee bigger and remember the knee is connected to the back muscle and what not

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>>2744578
Probably better than you can faggles.

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2 hours from life. Trying some stream of consciousness stuff.

>>2744537
you dont necessarily need to fix lineweight if you color it good. no one will notice ;o)

>>2744588
That'd better not be from reference

>>2744591
looks cool anon, i like the contrast

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>>2744591
you're going to look back on these "abstract pieces" and wish you'd spent that time just drawing what you were looking at.

pic related: i did the same shit (except /ic/ gave me shit for it back then so im passing the savings onto you!)

>>2744612
stop being a fucking hypocrite. you never draw "what you see" and /ic/ stil gives you shit for it.

>>2744588
trash/10 weak line hierarchy, weak form weak values.

Not gonna make it.
Go back to being a crabby art teacher.

>>2744612
also Im taking more inspiration from cubism than elephantism.

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I remember seeing a website a couple weeks ago posted on a thread here somewhere where it just had these random pictures of people on the street. It looked really good for reference use and i forgot to bookmark it. Anyone know what it was?

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Just a doodle I was doing in a Chinese Contemporary Society class instead of taking notes like a good university student.

>not paying attention in the slightest to the presentation on corruption
>tutor walks past, takes a peak at what I'm 'writing'
>"oshit imfukd"
>"nice drawing Anon I didn't know you liked to draw! "
>" th-thanks u 2"

>>2744145

I normally work with a size of 3000 x 3000 px size. Is there any better or standard size to work on digital painting? (I´m kind of new on this)

>>2744853
oh-hi.info mby ?

>>2741428
10/10 critique, take up teaching
>>2741779
/beg/
>>2743029
Tiny feet, stubby arm
>>2744588
Shitty torso, long as FUCK thigh, god knows whats wrong with your torso, looks like you chicken-scratched and covered it up with "style".