/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

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>>2657052

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>>2657057

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>>2654296

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>>2657149
Critique?

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>>2657049
Just a quick sketch, critique?

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>Maybe I should start practicing my drawing at 25
Noooope, it turned out awful...

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>>2657057

>>2657085
Loved your shading

>>2657217
Rollin'

>>2657217
rolling

>>2657174
Aging is not going to make you good

>>2657217
Roll

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>>2657052
Tips? I know it's bad

>>2657217
R O L L I N G

>>2657272
Go do some proportion and anatomy studies. While you're at it, start trying to draw with cleaner lines instead of chicken scratching.

>>2657151
Please critique, this is a breakthrough piece for me.

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>>2657151
it doesn't look finished

stop chicken scracthing, no symbol drawing and more practice

>>2657312
Symbols?

>>2657320
uhhh, the whole thing is symbols! I don't know if you are trolling, but this is the beginner thread.

learn how to draw a box and a circle, and a line without chicken scratch. also you need to learn what symbol drawing is, then learn how to not do it!

>>2657217
benis

>>2657320
Symbol drawing happens when you imagine a shape instead of drawing exactly what you see.

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Please, help me guys.

>>2657341
kill it with fire

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did i fix the "everything is wrong" with this one yet? going to keep pushing more details for now

>>2657351
you're just polishing turd right now anon.

Go chop down trees and get some lumber instead of trying to build a house with twigs.

>>2657354
>Go chop down trees and get some lumber instead of trying to build a house with twigs
what did you mean by this

also, is it the subject thats turdy?

>>2657351
>did i fix the "everything is wrong" with this one yet?
No
Everything is stiff, perspective and the objects in it are fucked, rendering looks half assed, (the rocks, skin clothes and fur look fucking awful)

What books did you read or curses did you took?
pls post the references you are using to make this pic

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also how are these looking so far? bottom middle isnt finished and top middle was supposed to be similar to top right but i decided on not doing that so its fucking nothing

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>>2657357
>Everything is stiff, perspective and the objects in it are fucked
true about the stiffness. started off as a simple figure and tried to put in a scene. i dont think you people are unstanding the perspective. its supposed to looking from on top of a wall or bridge look out to the plains/mts/lake pic is something i just googled. and im not sure what youre saying by the objects are fucked unless you mean the perspective of them? thats easily fixed

>rendering looks half assed, (the rocks, skin clothes and fur look fucking awful) well yeah thats why implied that i was still working on it. i was getting a lot of shit about the colors ealier though

>What books did you read or curses did you took?
no courses, just read the sticky books though; loomis, etc

i didnt use any references, just a pose that i found after the fact for the figure

>>2657356
It's a metaphor. They're telling you to learn your fundies, or properly plan your piece.

You should work on your anatomy/forms (woman and dog). There's not enough contrast imo. More depth too, looks very flat, like the foreground was just pasted over the background.

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>>2657230

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>>2657367
>You should work on your anatomy/forms (woman and dog)
sorry but no almost the same pose as this except not as exagerrated. the dog could use a little work though.

>properly plan your piece.
ill confess this was hastily planned, if at all

>There's not enough contrast imo.
true but im starting to get reluctant too at this point because everyone keep sayings its going to end up a polished turd

>More depth too, looks very flat, like the foreground was just pasted over the background.
i agree, ive been having a hard time figure how exactly to make them look like they belong together

>>2657369
i really like those lines bro

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>>2657374
Thank you

>>2657045
Giving up on this one

Will try again tomorrow from scratch

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>>2657149
since nobody replied to my last post ( >>2656186 ) i made another, this one is somehow significantly worse than the last one

again wondering whether or not i'm correctly making use of reilly method construction, i noticed he is kind of at an angle so i had to reposition the nose but i compressed the entire head it seems like

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>>2657217
I had posted the list and gotten a 17. Forgot to post this before heading out.

>>2657217
rollerino

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>>2657351
>pic related
I know the fundamentals seem boring, but the faster you improve the more fun you have. Never try to hide lack of skill with rendering or detail, your drawing should have appropriate quality at every stage.

>>2657358
Not bad, but I'd recommend drawing a head (loomis), copying it many times in a row and draw on top (separate layer) to avoid perspective issues.

>>2657420
>>2657420
wow good point on the background colors being overly dark. i made them lighter as i went back but didnt consider how they compared to the foreground. what do you mean about layers? and are you saying i should change the basic outline based on your colorblocks in the right pic? im using them if thats what youre talking about. i have a little more that 15 going right now. also your anatomy redline looks more like changing the pose than it does 'fixing' anatomy. shes at a 45 degree ish angle to the arm is foreshortened a bit, justifying her hand being so high. you just changed the angle of the raised arm and the other leg is turned out a bit so there wouldnt be any foreshortening of the lower leg, but my rendering probably didnt do a good job of showing that

for the helmets i actually started out with that. i think its just a lack of experience with the finer points of perspective mixed with not having solid ideas in my head thats causing me trouble. the top right is pretty bad though.

anyways, i appreciate all the feedback ive been getting

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>bought an art book
>says 'my art book' on it
>put an F in front of the art
I'm going places, I can feel it.

>>2657445
yes you are, my friend

>>2657420
>>2657443
also while im on background colors, how to you deal with the background being lighter than the foreground anyways. the stones are supposed to be a light tan, it seems like the background colors are going to seem somewhat darker no matter what i do

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I drew this bomb at work on my phone. Trying to find time to sorta "practice."

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>>2657448

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Drew this yesterday
Crits are appreciated
I tried to base it on those 1980s super cars.

>>2657174
Pro tip for getting perspective and proportions right; flip the reference upside down so you draw what you're seeing rather than what you're interpreting

>>2657358
Looks like you're using an opaque black brush to shade. Try actually render using values rather than using a black brush.

>>2657351
Objects in the distant background reflect more blue light the further away they are. If you're trying to show distance, use more blue tones. The mountains look like they're right next to her

>>2657464
Also apologies for the image rotation

>>2657454
Try to draw with a solid brush rather than an opaque brush. You'll get a better grasp of colours and values

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>>2657464
where do the missiles shoot out of?

>>2657472
No missiles, just speed ;_;

>>2657391
Why did you post thom's eye, anon?

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Tried working with the bean again but I am having a very hard time connecting legs to them. Also I feel when I am trying to do the oval for the rib-cage that I tend to want to use the entire oval as the rib-cage.

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>>2657149
It ended up looking kind of like Hank Hill but it was fun.

>>2657217
rll

Why is chicken scratching hated? It looks very aesthetic 2 me

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help me /ic/ what should i be working on?

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>Be me
>Both parents are talented and educated artists
>Try my very hardest as a child but never could even draw a straight line
>All but give up on trying to be any good
>19 now
>Get struck with a wave of inspiration
>Want to see if I can draw
>Draw this ODST

It may not look like much but I was someone who could fuck up a stick figure so I am quite proud of this.

>>2657517
Dammit. It was flipped on my PC.

/ic/'s opinion on sycra? I've heard some negative stuff about him, but i just watched one of his videos about deltoids, and it seemed alright.

>>2657515
Lineart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>2657538
the stuff he teaches is good, it;s just the general consensus on /ic/ that he doesn't know how to use the knowledge he has, mostly not liking his style and the occasional construction mistake

>>2657538
Use the knowledge he gives and surpass him. He teaches fair stuff, but he doesn't apply it himself weirdly, fair does to the man though.

>>2657542
>>2657543
thanks.

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I tried another one

please respond :((

>>2657546
Better than the last one. Try these exercises, they really help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgJXyEsakC8

Also, consider doing some faces with less make up on them.

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>>2657042
My fingers hurt. I think I'm gripping my pen too tightly.

>>2657387
Those eyes and the lips looks like a niggers butthole

>>2657492
So you can draw it.

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>>2657546
Oh, and also a good way to check your values is to convert the reference into black & white. You can push the reds slider to the left until the lips values match and the yellow slider to the right until the hair and face values match, and you'll see your mistakes, like not using enouh darker values and that white line on her chin.

>>2657322
Lol it's not

>>2657555

The ears and horizontal highlight of her nose are off. Shading seems harsh.

>>2657559
gosh taytay looks weird in black and white

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>>2657443
>>2657452
>layers
Landscape layers, not photoshop layers.
Landscape composition can be broken down into fore, mid and background, they get lighter the further away they are because of something called "aerial perspective". The local value of your object doesn't matter here.

You need to do simple value thumbnails to make sure your contrast isn't fucked before you start actually painting.

>the redline
Yes, of course it's changing the pose. Look at pic related and read a book or something, I can't explain to you the basics of figure drawing here.
I didn't fix your anatomy 'cause you wouldn't learn anything from that. It's too early.

>rendering
Forget that. Rendering didn't mess up your drawing. Your drawing should look good with or without any amount of rendering.

Valuable resources for you -
>drawabox.com
>ctrlpaint.com
>Vandruff perspective series
>Loomis - Figure drawing for all it's worth

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>>2657568
That's partly because of the sliders, here's the standard preset.

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Daily reminder I will NEVER be good at drawing

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>>2657578
Daily reminder that the only purpose of humility for artists is to absorb knowledge faster and work harder

>>2657574
symboldrawing/10

Squint more.
Practice observation.
Read Keys to drawing by Bert Dodson.

>>2657581
misaimed critique/10

Squint less.
Practice observation.
Read the thread.

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>>2657573
salvagable at this point? i lightened up the background a bit. it seems i shouldn't bother going forward with this one as is. if not, ill just pull out the potts, basket, and dog and make them their own texture study.

>>2657573
also
>constrapposto
this sounds like something that needs to be talked about a lot more

>>2657562
I'm always having problems with the nose and ears. They're frustrating to draw but actually also fun.

Thanks for comment, anon!

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Drew a concerned orc

Tips?

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>>2657591
>>2657593
It would be salvageable if you started over and payed very close attention to what has been said.
But I'd recommend grabbing a sketchbook and a pencil and studying perspective and form until you're confident with it.
Pic related is about as much as I can make out of this painting, all the mistakes that are causing you trouble happened in the beginning stages, not color/rendering.

>Contrapposto
is a term describing the natural ability of the human body to balance itself using the tilt of the major masses (head, ribcage, pelvis)
Basically, when you tilt your shoulders to the left, your hips tilt to the right to balance it. This along with your spine and legs works to achieve an even distribution of weight - and thus a natural looking pose.

Hampton's book is a good resource for this, check him out after you study the basics of perspective and form.

>>2657607
what about studying just the dog and pots? im thinking about croping the rest out and arranging them horizontally

>>2657619

jesus fucking christ just delete this crap and start doing studies

>>2657619
The dog and the pots are pretty good, actually. Just with the dog you should start with a simple construction, just like with the figure. Look at an actual dog skeleton and how long his bones are and what direction do his joints bend to avoid a major fuck-up.

Aside from this, >>2657623 is right. You can't fix a house that has no foundation by polishing its roof.

>>2657623
stfu nosebro

>>2657624
sounds like ill get something out of this after all. the dog is probably pretty close to correct as is but ill be sure to do that. you are the most helpful anon ive dealt with in a while thanks!

>>2657653

fuck you
please kill yourself
I hate you

>>2657272
Open your eyes

>>2657654
LOL youre not even denying that your nosebro? that probably means... youre fucking nosebro... i knew it. man thats pretty bad if you cant even stay hidden after you ditched the tripfag gig.

>>2657661

nosecuck never posts without his nametag* except on tuesdays

>>2657662
youre not fooling me referring to yourself in the third person like that nosebro

>>2657664
Ew, I'm totally not that loser.

>>2657555
you can be a good trap artist

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>>2657493
The bean is good for the twisting/bending motion between ribcage and pelvis, but not for representing the entire torso.
The ribcage is best represented by an egg shape with planes chiseled on its sides. For planes you need to know boxes and for boxes you need to know perspective. That's where you need to start.
>Perspective made easy
>Drawabox.com
>Vandruff perspective series

>>2657597
Hard to critique. Draw larger and put in more effort. Construct the head with the loomis method, try different angles, maybe add some shadows and wrinkles.. play with it, have fun.

>>2657653
Glad to help.

>>2657665
ok well screw you im not killing myself

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>>2657673

I could do the honor if you're not man enough. You gotta die either way.

>>2657670
If he dresses up in girls' clothes while painting?

>>2657322
Horrible critique anon, there is hardly a hint of symbolic features.

>hurr generic critique
>Symbols, circles, squares, chicken scratches, durr

How about you stop giving critiques

>>2657454
The eyes are too cutesy. Make them pitch black

>>2657670
W-why?

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doing a draw

>>2657217
roll

>>2657217
rollin

>>2657217
Roll

>>2657217
Roll

>>2657217

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>>2657042

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I have no intentions on doing formally good work, I literally don't have the time so I just stick to cutesy silly shitty and maybe moving on to street art occasionally
can someone please help me out with making stuff less flat and stiff? general critique? this is one of my favorite pieces

>>2657889

wtf are you female

>>2657889
You gotta learn the fundies, sorry. Read sticky

>>2657889
If you wanna get good at doing stuff like that that is simple and cute, you're gonna have to at least do some form studies. Spheres, cubes, cylinders, etc. Practice drawing them at different angles and with different lighting. Then you will better understand how make your characters pop. You can practice this even by doing still lives of fruit too.

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>>2654296

>>2657217
54 please god

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Not finished yet. Getting kinda drained doing it desu.

>>2657889
Sticky, cunt, go read it.

>>2657217
roll

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>>2657878
Props for trying to learn construction, but there are a few things we need to clear out.

>>2657918
I like it, looks like something that would be in a darksiders game


>tfw no darksiders 3 ever

>>2657928
It was inspired by Final Fantasy games.

I'm thinking about doing some interior sketches and paintings for the inside of the tower and then the top. Though it might be nice to put actual effort into a project to motivate me.

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>>2657918
Nice, but the straight edges kinda bother me. It's shaped like a giant cylinder, isn't it?

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Quick sketch

Thoughts?

>>2657935
Yeah, I better fix the perspective issues with it.

Thanks anon.

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>>2657341
i'm trying to fix it, how can i proceed?

>>2657889
your character is going to die when it gets eaten

>>2657272
Read the beginning of Perspective Made Easy

Watch Proko's videos about anatomy and construction on YouTube, they cover Loomis' method in a way I find better than reading Fun With A Pencil

It's not bad, it's just very untrained. Don't draw what you think you see, figure out how the form works by seeing where the weight lies(between the legs, equally shared), where your eye level would be viewing the picture (about the top of his head, because you can see the top of most of the forms), consider the landmarks of the body (collar bones, top of the pelvis, knees, elbows, wrists, ankles) and draw the torso and pelvis (taking note of the tilt of the shoulders and hips) before attaching limbs to it.

You're at a stage where critique won't help you much, because you don't have much of a foundation yet. You need to learn the basics. Study perspective and construction, and begin to break things down into 3D forms rather than drawing what you see before you. You have not trained your eyes to see like an artist needs to yet, and that will come with practice.

A little tip, don't use a pencil. Use a pen, because it will force you to be patient and plan out your strokes before you make them. Good luck, and don't give up.

>>2657687
>I could do the honor if you're not man enough. You gotta die either way.
well its just i dont want to die

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>>2657949
http://www.storytellerartist.com/documents/Perspective_Made_Easy.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwt_wggUFHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0660Fuih7qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irWRFOI7IV8

here, now you don't have an excuse either

>>2657937
Not sure if you used the reference pic in this thread? Either way the eyes are symbolic, the orientation is wrong. You need to learn how to see properly. Read keys to drawing, that'd help you tremendously.

>>2657915
Proportions are dramatically off, that's why it looks wonky.

>>2657941
what the fuck

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>>2657042

>>2657976
No, I didn't use reference. I'll check that book, thanks

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>>2657889
All advice above is good but it's much easier to just understand that a circle viewed from an angle looks like an ellipse, it doesn't have sharp points. Also, try experimenting with different shading styles.

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>>2657149
haven't been drawing due to sad
but got myself back up a bit

>>2657998

Pretty much everything is slightly off. You gotta watch those shapes. Compare shapes in your ref to shapes in your lay in, make sure they're the same.

>>2657996
i cant make the blue green hrad look lik its in front fo the red body, how do i do that?

>>2657217
lets see

>>2657217
fuckin lame
roll

>>2657217
rollin

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>>2657172
>That hair

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>>2657045
Trying to catch his likeness...

>>2658086
I haven't drawn shaved hair like that before, any tips or should I just shade it in

>>2657217
Fucking wiener

>>2657217
Tiddies

>>2657151
The forehead looks weird... Not really an expert but it looks like the forehead is not a part of the head itself.

So /ic/ I have been using my tablet for about 4 months now and I still can't consistently ghost lines with it. On paper when I am going over a line I can do it np, draw boxes etc but when I try to draw with the stylus no matter how many times I ghost a line to make a stroke it just comes out not how I wanted. I feel my hand eye coordination must be off. I can play FPS fine but when I try to draw with the stylus it just never comes out right. I've done Han's line thing multiple times and they are still off. The only times I can get decent lines are when I zoom way the fuck in. Would buying a display tablet help with this problem?

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Is this flat?

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>>2654296

ehh..

>>2657195
Of all the things I got wrong that is the one thing I feel I did worst.

>>2658211
Yes, it's a drawing on a piece of paper, they tend to be flat. But this one is a drawing without any attempts to make it look less flat.

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I've been trying to work on my shading n such, wanted a take from /ic/

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Finally tried loomis after 4 months of procrastinating and I just can't.

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>>2658211
Yes. The head/chin suggests the face is 3/4 (4/5) turned to the left/down; but the features you drew suggest straight and level.

There's also a lack of shading (while the hair in the back is shaded) which adds to the discrepancy.

>>2658274
Looks great! Keep it up.

>>2658274
looks fine af, pham. do you mind if I ask which material did you use for the white bits?

Which should I focus on to generally improve my drawing on a more "technical" level: gesture drawing or figure drawing? I have a full-time job, but no other responsibilities in my life and I'm a friendless recluse, so how long should it theoretically take before I get good if I spend all of my free-time drawing?

>>2658277
congrats you made it worse! Don't redline for another 2 months.

>>2657217
rool

>>2658167
Honestly you shouldn't even bother with hair at this point. Start with basic forms and get better at measurement before trying to draw people. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you drew everything completely wrong.

Not an exercise, but a question: Let's say I want to draw in a more pixelized style. Think VA11 HALL-A. 150x200 sprites or so.

Am I gonna have to bite the bullet and buy a tablet, or is this feasible to do without one?

I have no idea if this is even the right board to go to for this, but I figure the art board is probably the best bet.

>>2658404

A tablet is absolutely unnecessary for pixel art. You'll pretty much be drawing pixel by pixel, which is easily done with your mouse.

>>2658418
At about 30,000 pixels total, to be fair. That was the main point of concern.

>http://drawabox.com
mfw just found this

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Tried doing a dynamic pose

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>>2658301
I used tone paper and white charcoal. I just got it, this was my first attempt at trying it out. Here's another, I wasn't too happy with.

>>2658189
I have a similar experience. While you will improve, I'm pretty sure a tablet is never going to be as accurate as paper. Even the experienced seem to use ctrl-z quite often.

It will definitely be worse if you don't use it much. The first hurdle you need to get past is to not hate it (so you'll use it regularly)

To draw with it you need three things:
1. Hand-eye coordination. The mapping of hand to screen needs to be 100% natural. You can build this by using the tablet instead of a mouse or playing a game with it (I used Osu! and felt natural quickly)

2. Practice more lines and ellipses with it (Peter Han exercises etc.) You will gain precision, but don't expect paper-like results

3. Build your 3d sense, eg. the feeling that your stylus is "feeling" the form. I found this didn't carry over from paper until I deliberately practiced it. Build forms out of basic shapes and draw contour lines over them. I also used the Vilppu forms-in-a-sock exercise.

When sketching I found it helped to just draw confidently and not care about shitty lines so long as you figure out the form in the end. You will end up drawing in multiple passes anyway.
Good luck anon.

>>2658445
It's a good resource. Although, it doesn't tell you how long something takes so you may end up doing the first exercise for a month.

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God are these eyes passable? I'm not sure whether they pass as symbols or not.

>>2658462

Why didn't you draw the dick? Are you a prude or something? Prudishness has no place in art.

>>2658489
It's symbol drawing still. There are no lines delimiting the eyes, it's just shapes of color squished up

Photo didn't help you anyways, it's awful

>>2658221
looks like a head is coming out of his head

>>2657559
Not bad.

>>2658399
Well fuck and I thought it turned out halfway decent. Thanks for the tips though, I'll keep trying

>>2657998

I think the eyes are too small, nose is too pointy, and the lips shouldn't be curving upward.

I like the shading though.

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Hows it look? its finished, so any tips for improvement my next time would be helpful

>>2658559
jesus

Is there any GOOD quick pose sites out there? Really dislike the pictures for quickposes.com and pixelovely's pictures are the same thing everytime

>>2658555
SNAEK
looks nice, the mouth needs some work tho
and that is quite big

>>2658035
practice construction

>>2658588
Maybe try posemaniacs.com?

>>2658446
>when the pose is so dynamic that the leg can't keep up with the rest of the body

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Drew a portrait.

>>2658446
lol senpai the back leg is coming out of her knee, doesn't connect up with the cheek it should. Also shouldn't be able to see that second check from that pose. Arm dwindles into nothingness instead of showing the forearm.

also resize your fucking shit family how hard is it u shit.

>>2658646
>>2658598
Yeah hah I see it now.

>resize image
nigga hover image
nigga you on that 720p monitor?

>>2658646
seconding because I didn't realise everyone is so bad at resizing. Also please rotate to the correct orientation. 1000px AT MAX on the longest side. None of that plus or minus shit (actually minus is okay). Triggers me so hard that you guys expect people to crit your work but won't take the extra 30 seconds to make it more respectable.

Shaming:
>>2657151
>>2657172
>>2657194
>>2657272
>>2657420
>>2657454
>>2657464
>>2657493
>>2657515
>>2658015
>>2658274
>>2658276
>>2658277
>>2658449
>>2658462

>>2658651
nah but shit internet. takes forever to load and it's one of the very few requirements around here anyways. It ain't hard.

>>2658659
I'm not here to cater to people who take 5 minutes to load a 163KB picture.

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>>2658661
k then

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>>2657558
This was dumb

>>2657217
Warm up roll

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>>2658670
this bothers me

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>>2658702
I got rid of it for u

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>>2658702
Better? I worked on the other areas a bit too but I don't really know how to go further/smoother than this when rendering.

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Finished the first lesson on Drawabox.

Should I bother handing my homework in?

>>2658729
Don't be a faggot, let me put my dick in yo butt you avatarfagging cunt and no just post it on here if you want.

>>2658707
wow thanks my friend

>>2658723
better. you are doing justice to thom's eye, anon

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>>2657052
>>2657054

>do drawabox
>can't train
it literally gives a step by step tutorial and i fuck it up anyway
>convert object to sideview to get everything to scale
>make box that you're limited to
>just fucking draw it to scale

>>2658729
Drawabox is Pro-ISIS

>>2658766
wat

>>2658770
Drawabox's creator supports radical-islamic terrorism

>>2658729
hey man your posts are really cool you should get a trip so i can better recognize you in the future

>>2658776
Even if? We don't support him by taking free lessons, do we?

>>2658740
Thanks matey, glad to hear it

>>2658776
What on earth are you on about anon? He seems like a pretty nice fella, I mean he gives out free drawing help.

>>2658776
No he doesn't

>>2658776
That's like saying he's gay or hispanic - it has nothing to do with his art, does it?

>>2658850
I wouldn't take art advice from a gay hispanic.

>>2658847
1. He is muslim
2. He posts on reddit
3. As been known to rant about westerners """"Christians""""

Also it's been alleged that if he finds out you're a Muslim girl on his site he will block you until you get permission from either your older brother or your father.

He goes after them white girls with a hard-on though. Look at his reddit conversations. 5 posts deep and things start to take on double meanings.

I'm just sayin'

>>2658776
If he keeps helping me with my lines then aloha snackbar, baby.

>>2658817
>We don't support him by taking free lessons, do we?
You listen to him don't you? You read his posts don't you? You basically let him plant the seeds while you soak up those """"free""" art lessons

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FOR H*CK SAKE I KEEP MESSING UP MY DRAWABOX HOMEWORK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2658863
a claim without evidence etc etc

>>2658512
I see your point, I'm not able to smudge or vary colours effectively with my mechanical pencil.

Should I buy different pencils or is it my technique that is lacking?

>>2658867
Good, good, let the hatred flow through you... Wait, wrong setting.

What are you doing wrong?

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>>2658881
I keep making stupid mistakes like shading the wrong part or line weighting the wrong line

>>2658760
The heads are shaped super weirdly, particularly the right one.

>>2658871
Read the reddit posts, ask him questions. Not my fault your too lazy to the see the forest through the trees

>>2657560
>>2657703
But he is symbol drawing, and his lines are very scratchy and incoherent.

>>2657341
Stop working on this it isn't good, its unsaveable.

>>2658887
I had a quick look and couldn't find anything.

You're still asserting a point without any evidence.

>>2658863
If that's even true, it's a shame that he treats muslim girls & christians like that, but that's a far cry from supporting terrorism m8.

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>>2658884
Well then you're at step 2 already! Don't give up now. Practice more diligently and narrow down the exact point/line where it goes wrong, and why. Be very slow and conscious about it. Every line must have a reason for being.

Don't get too frustrated or intent upon it though - if it still doesn't work or improve after several times, let it rest and go do something else (not necessarily drawing) for a while (ranging from a few hours to a day or so). Sometimes the brain needs time for things to click; and frustration only agitates/distracts - no one ever made a great work while gnawing his pencil to bits.

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>>2658658
but I did resizeeee itttttt
don't bullyyyy meeeeeee

>>2658900
ya I know how to do it, I just keep h*cking it up.

and ya I decided to have a break. I'm watching the new batman film (the killing joke) now.

>>2657464
Its really wonky and I can't tell what it is at all, the lines aren't very confident, and you colored outside the lines like a bad boy. Middle school doodle/10.

>>2657499
Doesn't look like hank hill at all, but its still nice.

>>2657217

roll

What are some good practice techniques/warm ups that would help me get get the hang of shapes and figures?

>>2658588
i like senshistock

>>2657908
>>2657909
>>2658005
thanks
I've read the sticky many times, I've done a lot of loomis stuff (tho sometimes it feels like "draw a circle, draw the rest of the owl"), I just wanted to know where I should focus, I got only a couple of hours a week, I can't afford the luxury to learn everything one should
>>2658005
I see
actually I was thinking of more like a dildo shape when I did the orange ice cream, idk why I did it, it was a mistake, I see

>>2658889
Not that anon but what's symbolic in that drawing

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Sorry for spamming the thread with thoms, but I'm working on this and I was wondering if any of you could help me figure out why it looks kinda shitty & lifeless? Something to do with my edges being too stark?

PS don't forget to do backgrounds guys, I tried to paint on white 'cause I'm retarded and I was fucking up my colours big time before I had the context of the blue.

>>2658863
Wait a minute, isn't drawing haram?

>>2659026
you are using the colour picker, what did you expect.

>>2659031
I'm not using the colour picker, I do spend a lot of time getting them right though.

>>2659033
go lie else where you dont fool us,

>>2659034
Why would I lie about that? I'm trying to improve m8. I sometimes paint over the reference photo with a colour to confirm that it's close but I'm still finding the colour myself.

>>2657217
check em

Just knowing theres a thread where other people are learning art motivates me to draw everyday. Love hanging out with you guys. please draw more naked men

>>2659034
>>2659031
You're fucking blind.

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hahaha fug )))))))

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i feel like a fucking caveman

>>2657516
>>2657515

Man, i love how you do faces

>>2658646
>>2658658
Didn't realize there were so many poorfags here with shitty internet and shitty monitors.

>>2657217
rollerino

>>2659172
I also like them, so simple yet so good looking.

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>had a really great idea for a picture today
>don't have the skill to make it a reality
Still not going to share it. If I can't have it, no-one can.

>>2657217
rolin

>>2659364
>My tax goes to this weebs welfare

>>2659378
>everyone on 4chan is American

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My first charcoal drawing. Thoughts?

>>2657217
roll

>>2659472
Read the sticky.

>>2659507
I have. What specifically are you referring to?

>>2659507
Rude.

>2657217
Rolllllinnnngg sttaaarrrrrt

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Quick skinny chest study

Thoughts?

>>2659537
Left shoulder seems like it got pulled forward. Nipples are too high/on the outside (should be near the midle of the ribcage, not next to the armpit).

>>2659537
Why do the arms look like crumpled paper tubes?

>>2659517
>I have

Listen rather than giving you a harsh critique on this drawing I'm going to tell you right off the bat you lack fundamental knowledge. Does this drawing look "right" to you? It shouldn't if you have a even remotely trained eye. So start there, read keys to drawing, do the exercises in drawing on the right side of the brain.

>>2659518
Top kek

>>2659586
>drawing on the right side of the brain.
But for fuck's sake, don't *read* the book, it'll make you want to blow out your brain.

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:^)

>>2659586
Alright, thanks for nothing.

>>2659630
Gave you what you need

>>2659635
You gave nothing but a vague suggestion. It's fine if you don't want to help or had nothing to say, but just saying 'work on everything' tells me nothing. I'm on /beg/ for a reason fampai.

>>2659638
Learn how to take suggestions. Your shit sucks, you need the sticky. Obviously reading it isn't enough. Are you fucking dense? Apply yourself.

>>2657217
Rell

>>2659640
Hey, I can take suggestions. You have yet to say anything specific besides "sticky" which I'm already doing. You aren't being helpful and I'm letting you know that.

>>2659645
Anon, you're symbol drawing. You're not observing anything properly. I told you to read and do the exercises in two books. Stop being defensive and actually apply yourself.

>>2659645
Your doodle is so shit, go and read the sticky. Stop being a massive whining cunt.

>>2659648
>You're symbol drawing. You're not observing anything properly.

Thank you. All I wanted was actual feedback that I can work on.

>>2659652
But that's the first shit the sticky talks about, just fuck off man.

>>2659652
I feel like I'm replying to a retarded person

>>2659650
You. Are. Not. Helping. Anyone.

Your overinflated sense of authority thanks to the anonymity of the internet is helping no one but yourself.

>>2659659
Projection

>>2659655
Yee, I know. But you actually said something useful.

>>2659658
Then don't bother. Like you shouldn't have in the first place.

>>2659662
Nah. I'm not claiming to offer useful advice when I'm not.

>>2659364
You should try making it anyway! At the very least, you'll have something to compare with and draw again when you get better.

>>2659663
Being this ignorant. That's a different anon, but you must be a troll. Are you seriously this stupid? You just don't want to listen. You want things spoon fed to you.

>>2659668
Once again, thank you for nothing and helping no one.

>>2659672
Do you have a Patreon?

>>2659675
Nah. Just a lowly beginner.

>>2657217
I've got like half an hour but let's roll.

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I'm using the soft round for everything so its looking a little blurry. Are there any good info graphs for digital painting in general?

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>>2659686
>>2657217

>>2657217
rawlin

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Trying to push my values, still getting the hang of these markers.

>>2657217
Fff

>>2659693
Use the hard round.

Ok so I'm starting to get into this drawing shit. I finished Betty's book, now going through Loomis. I just started to wonder this:

Guys how do you practice coloring/values and shit? Do you paint from life? What do you use to practice those, computer or warercolors/acrylics/oil/something else?

>>2659848
I mean, I have a clear plan how I will practice construction, anatomy and stuff. It's probably my favorite thing to practice right now, but coloring seems really tricky and it's worrying me a bit because I don't have any clear strategy for it in my mind.

>>2659925
I really hate that style, it's just unpleasant to look at.

>>2657556
if you say so...

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i read it's important to practice from imagination simultaneously and not only from reference

do these faggots look remotely human in shape?

>>2657878
wtf are you doing... you are using the loomis head model completely wrong. its only meant as a (general guide) for the (general shape) of the average head, it doesnt include things like fat deposits and perfect facial structure... if you want one that you can trace ovver like that and actually benefit I would try the reilly planes method.

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>>2657915

just messed with the face/skull ratio for like 3 seconds and it already looks better.

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Critique my drawbox homework

Youre suppised to make a blob and then give it form using ellipses

>>2660103
Try not to make your ellipsis one solid line. Play with line weight to emphasis what we should be able to see. Watch the width on your ellipsis to help sell depth, your consistent widths make it seem flat, you need to sell the folds in the form.
Be more adventurous with your organic forms and not just an erect penis all the time.

>>2660103
>>2660109
Also reinstate your lines

>>2657217
roll

Any good arm tutorials out there? Every resource i have is super detailed on every torso muscle, but completely half-ass the arms. Even proko dosn`t have anything about the arms/legs.

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Any tips for painting wood textures, other than pay more attention?

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>>2657052
I can't shade for hit man

someone make a new thread already

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Is it just me being a beginner noob, or does this thing totally not look like a cylinder in perspective?
Shouldn't the minor axis be angled like the opposite way, towards the other vanishing point?
It's on the plane that refers to that VP after all.

>>2660231
Texturing is mostly about finding the right brush and knowing how to use it.

>>2657041


NEW
>>2660382
>>2660382
>>2660382
>>2660382

>>2657217
rolling

>>2660013
>>2657978
Thanks

>>2658658
;_; I-I didn't mean to

>>2657217
feg

>>2657217
roll