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unfinished crop

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>>2633088
aaaand full so far

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Started few small paintings again, need to try different approaches because I changed paints. I managed to score some Nevskaya Palitra Master Class paints, they act totally different from what I've been using, so it might take a few takes. Also pushing a bit to do two paintings a day, moved to countryside for few months. Nothing else to do than paint and discover local areas.

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>>2633091
borderline pillow shading. there's no sense of light and dark in this, which makes the contrasting red and green look like two seperate abstract shapes rather than just a character with clothes on.

anyways i drew this girl

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>>2633104
Also this, tho background is missing leaf matter.

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>>2633109
also just for keks here's this pose she did. what is it with models presenting to me?

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I made some random value sketches for fun

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>>2633141
and a cute bot

>>2633114
>thinks this is 'presenting to me'
Stop being a creep and respect the models

>>2633153
>Stop being a creep
>Drawing someone naked
it's one or the other anon

>>2633114
Creep

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Is there a significant difference between the ones that I mark down as feeling "good" and the ones that I mark down as feeling "bad"?

I didn't really start paying more attention to the feeling/rhythm until later on in this study.

>>2633114
>presenting
I gagged

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I think im going to draw the same intersection daily until i can describe it well.

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Also broke out the pastels. In dont work in color very often but i thought this came out deese

>>2633248
Nigga, what the fuck are you even doing?

Study the rhythms of the body, you're just drawing paper people with random squiggles thrown in.

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Uuugg I dont' know why I find it so difficult to come up with a composition, I always find something I don't like or feel like it could be better. It's frustrating. Like i spent all day on these and I don't know how I feel about them.

Which one do you chaps think works best? The synopsis is that there is a big gangly-looking guardian protecting the secrets of this giant maze, the little knight is challenging him to gain access. What I really want to show in this picture is that the guardian is old and haggard, like he's forced to be there, and in the two pictures on the left it's as though he was sitting down when this little knight appeared and he sighs as he stands up to fight. But I don't think the composition is as good as the two on the right, but then again those comps look too stiff imo.

>>2633261
instead of grinding a single scene until you magically get it right, put some active thought into it

you literally have presumed perspective lines in the form of road markings and you still fuck up the perspective on the cars placed right next to them by being random instead of adhering to the guides you have in place

it's like you're redlining your own shitty drawing

>>2633266
Thanks for telling me.
Are the "good" ones still suffering from the same problem?

I feel like I got a little bit of the rhythm in those.

>>2633258
personally i think the word "presenting" is hilarious

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>>2632391
Thank you for the critique anon. I drew her again since I feel like that last one was way off base from the look I want to go for. As you pointed out her legs were way too long, even for a stylized look and I wasn't aiming for that either. I hope her proportions are better in this one.

>>2633266
Actually, nevermind.
I'm just going to go study/reverse engineer Proko videos until I understand 100% what he's looking for in a figure.

>>2633271
thats why im practicing. I dont draw scenery and dont have a strong grasp on things like perspective. if you could redline the mistake for me id appreciate it.

>>2633275
They are all fundamentally bad, your approach is completely wrong.

>>2633290
>Proko
Don't. Proko has a very, very good grasp on fundamentals, including gesture, but he's a shit teacher.

If you want to continue with the tube-like approach to gesture, study Steve Huston and Danny Galieote. Steve will teach you critical gestures/rhythms and the general mindset, and once you've got that, gesture is a cakewalk. Do not watch Danny first.

Vilppu and Borenstein approach gesture a bit differently, but the gist of it is the same.

Starting with a shammy physically is far easier than with pencil line or digitally.

>>2633312
Also, gesture belongs in the beginner thread.

>>2633268
I like top right personally.

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A few things I am coloring.

>>2633321
You might wanna study some life, the left is looking like symbol drawing. The style is definitely working, have fun with that while you do some study.

>>2633312
Why is Proko is a shit teacher?

>>2633327
I'm not
>>2633312
but I am the beginner guy that's trying to learn from Proko.
His videos don't go into any sort of depth in comparison to a book or a Vilppu video (which I tragically deleted a year ago when I decided I'm looking too far ahead)

I barely understand what I'm looking for when it comes to gesture despite watching his videos over and over. I've started to learn more about it from his drawings than from his mouth, and for me personally that's a very bad sign.

I've had suspicions that he's a bad teacher in the sense that his videos leave out loads of information that are vital to gesture. I randomly picked his videos because anons on here keep bringing up his name.

I'm going to try the gesture masters that
>>2633312
has brought up.

I might be totally wrong about everything I'm writing, but I don't think of myself as a bad student.

When I watch Proko, it feels like he's skimming through very important information. (Flow of the body through rhythm, etc)

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I'm starting to hit uncanny valley here, what am I doing wrong?

>>2633312
>butthurt

Proko's a great teacher and he has beautifully clean, easy to understand drawings. His use of 3D models really helps, too. His only real problem is that he's a metrosexual goofball with a 4/10 mustard monkey wife.

>>2633312
Proko is a great teacher, you are a fag.

I've watched tons of other teachers too, including Vlippu. Prokos videos are designed to be watched over and over again until you digest it, in short periods of time.

For Vlippu's you have to do the same thing but it's fucking 10 hours each time as he drones on.

>>2633338
You went so far into studying rendering, and you still got symbol drawing.

>>2633343
>His use of 3D models really helps

I've never seen any 3D models in his gesture videos.

>>2633141
>>2633142
Suprisingly cool. No real crtiscims.

>>2633268
top middle would probably be the one that is the most balanced.

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>>2633114
Ah, i know what you mean.

>>2633392
head shape and face proportions are a little off and the arm and hand on the left from the forearm up are wonky

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Calling this done.

>>2633395
yeesh... wtf am i looking at anon...

>>2633344
>Prokos videos are designed to be watched over and over again until you digest it, in short periods of time.
>60% monty python bullshit

>>2633334
Pretty much exactly what you said. It's not that he's fundamentally a bad teacher, but he's still new and inexperienced at it, and his gesture videos are among his first, to boot.

Steve and Vilppu, on the other hand, have been teaching for many, many years.

Anyway, my advice is to start with Steve, learn the basic rhythms, then check Vilppu, Borenstein, and Danny.

It might seem different at first, but Vilppu's lines follow the exact same principles as Steve's tubes, you'll understand when you see it.

Just don't binge the lessons. Get the rhythms, then work on that before proceeding. And start with Steve's NMA videos, not the 15 year old lectures on youtube.

And again, I found it much easier to understand what I was supposed to do with a shammy, though you can use a suitable wide brush if you must practice digitally.

>>2633401
Perspective of the floor is a bit whack plus the overall detail level of the bricks isnt helping the rest of your design any. The focal point should be the center piece but it blends too much with the background and busy floor. Also the light/furnace/mirror thing is distracting and not polished enough to need that much attention. Add some light to the middle piece and pop it out. Also, rooms arent very interesting if they are all on the same plane. Try to add an area of elevation like a small step or two difference in the center of the room. It will also bring the focus inward and help you out with selling your main moon globe design. Furnace mirrors lack any sort of complexity at the bottom. They need some sort of base or pedestal so they dont look so flat. And if you really want to kick this piece to the next level add some cooler pottery in the background. I see you have some sick hookah style patterns on the back wall, maybe bring some of those into your scene. It may add some more design and life into your scene.

Pretty cool stuff man. Sorry for the wall of text. Keep at it and it could be a nice portfolio piece if you added a few more pages of similar style rooms.

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This is the smallest file size my phone would let me make this pic, I hope it's okay. Study I did last night. Not the greatest, I know. But I can see myself slowly improving.

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>>2633343
>>2633344

>>2633425
>>2633441
Vilppu is too old fashioned. He tries to explain intricate muscle groupings to the viewer using a live model in a dimly lit studio from a football field's length from the camera with his sadly weakening voice. Huston's head construction technique would be a better fit for drawing Protoss Templars® than humans. Danny G is irrelevant.

Once again Proko, metrosexual goofball with a 4/10 mustard monkey wife though he is, is the future. Clean af drawings, articulate explanations, and strategic use of 3D models make him easily one of the best teachers on the internet at this moment. If he toned down the schtick he'd be perfect.

With all that said, Huston is easily the best actual artist of the 3 in my honest opinion.

>>2633452
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. What do intricate muscle groupings and 3d models have to do with gesture?

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>>2633452
To elaborate on what I mean by that; Vilppu is great at what he does but I don't think I've seen more than a handful of completed works by him and they were basically sketches. I don't know if he even has any completed paintings that are able to be viewed, though he's mentioned being a painter before. He is as far as I'm aware an art instructor and sketch artist first and foremost. Proko's paintings are the kind of gentle-hearted simple faire you'd expect from a thrift store + some Watts influence. Not particularly bad, but nothing too special either.

Huston's paintings on the other hand are fuckin' rad.

>>2633465
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you might be retarded.

Vilppu and Galieote are draftsmen. Both have decades of experience as professional animators. Both are miles ahead of Prokopenko in terms of gesture precisely because that's their fucking job.
The fact that Vilppu draws "basically sketches" 24/7 is good thing, you idiot.

>>2633465
Are you aloud to punch with your butt in boxing?

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>>2633470
>Both are miles ahead of Prokopenko in terms of gesture precisely because that's their fucking job.

Both Danny and Vilppu's gesture drawing results are ultimately better than Proko's, but Vilppu's explanation for how gestures work literally amounts to "feel the pose, faggot". Which is endearing and all but leaves a lot to the imagination. You're not necessarily limited to one or the other, but Proko is the most thorough in his explanation of what is a fairly esoteric concept.

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working on my second portfolio piece. Hoping to get 10 of these done before i promote myself.

>>2633477
>Vilppu's explanation for how gestures work literally amounts to "feel the pose, faggot"
But that's wrong, you fucking mongoloid.

And even if it were true, which it isn't, I gave 4 people to learn from and told him to move from one to the other after understanding rhythm.

Are you literally retarded?

>>2633481
The eye's running away from her face

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>>2633482
>being this triggered

It's not healthy to get angry like this.

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>>2633483
lmao thanks

did I fix it?

>>2633481
Tiny head and weird angle compared to body. Rotate it closer to sideview, might make it more appealing. Now it has a bit separating effect between head and hood.

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WIP

>>2633114
You're getting better. Your style isn't nearly as obnoxious as before.

Unless you're a different person to the one I'm thinking of.

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H-hi IC,
Newfag, hobbist here...

WIP

I want to improve, any tips?

>>2633585
Looks cool, but brush up on composition. Right now, nothing really leads the eye, and you have lots of potential that you just don't capitalize on.

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>>2633555
really liking those tones, greens pose looks bit stiff but it's clearly just an indication. Keep posting when you make progress.

Started one more last night, basically just blocked colors in but couldn't stop. I do these in two sessions, so maybe today I should finish one or two.

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Doing this for an event, is there anything I should change before I try to refine this WIP?

>>2633639
The lighting/reflection on the surface of the river is lovely mate

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need some c/c doesn't seem realistic at all does the bluish skin make him looks too much like a dead body ?

>>2633669
biggest thing is that he is nt casting any shadow

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i just finished this...don´t know.

>>2633660
thanks, looking forward to refine it.

>>2633669
I think your perspective and scale is different between character and background, he could be a giant. Also pose is really stiff, think about height of that right elbow. Straight forward faces support this stiffness.

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I'm not really happy with those silhouettes, but I guess I'm done

>>2633704
oh cmon, push it further.

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Any thoughts on this? is the comp okay?

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This is taking so long but I'm enjoying every minute of it

>>2633802
Symmetrical compositions are hard to make look dynamic. Right now it doesn't have a very strong impact. The sense of scale also seems off in a way. If it were me I would add some forced perspective. Have the girl in the extreme foreground and show the ravine stretching out impossibly far before her. Personally I would also make this a vertical orientation instead of landscape. Pinching the sides in around the girl would help add tension.
>>2633867
This is nice, I really like the way you've done the reflected light from the water.

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Trying to practice line art. /beg/ said to go to other threads for advice so I'm here.

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start of an ep cover for a friend

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cant be bothered with this any more

>>2633591

Thank you, I will try!

>>2633972
>anatomy

>>2634016
What do you mean?

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Done for today, only a few hours to go

>>2633591
>>2633867
This is great anon. Keep it up!

>>2634022
Not him, but though I like the other drawings, with the top right guy you clearly guessed all the muscles.
You even invented some muscles yourself - a second pair of lats and a completely new muscle where obliques should insert. Not to mention wrong overlaps, shapes and forms.

Unless you want to spend your life pandering to normies who can't tell the difference, I'd suggest to learn the actual muscles and not just their surface forms.

>>2633867
Very nice!

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Next I'll set the acrylics to color mode.

Seriously though, anybody has a guide on how to apply paint for n00bs?
I just went at it like a monkey without knowing what I was doing.

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>>2634076
Well, it was kinda tricky cause a lot of his muscles right at the lats were hidden by the lighting, and I wanted to factually draw them. So yeah, i kinda guessed.

I'll be doing more of these though, a good... iunno, two pages per month?

Imma start doing environments in just line art too, I notice it's what helps me improve the most alongside grinding studies, but in many ways, this actually seems to help me a lot more than just book work and exercises. Combining fully detailed works with the usual grinds I mean. I'm also more proud of showing these off than the 15 mins ones since, I put extra work into making these look nice.

>>2633972
looks sick imo

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>>2633906

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practicing

>>2634190
Do/did you actually study anatomy, or are you just figure drawing and calling it anatomy practice?

>>2634190
>simply drawing a lot from photo reference/life and imagination
Get good at observational drawing and feeling of form. Have more fun at beginning. Eventually quit art later on 'cause your learning curve decreases gradually.
>study the craft in depth, read books, watch lectures, do exercises, learn construction
Less fun/frustrating at first, but a rapid growth causes you to fall in love with the process + gives you freedom of actually understanding the craft.

Make your choice. Also, you can probably guess which did 90% of the old masters go with.

>>2634212
I do study anatomy, I did art school for 2 years, and I know how the serrates connect with the lats. I know it's like teeth coming together, however, when I did it like that, it didn't look as visually appealing, and since the ref I was using didn't visually communicate that, I just winged it with what I thought looked nicer, but you're correct.

I'm doing more anatomy learning on my own, because desu, what I did in art school wasn't enough. Atm I'm focusing more on perspective with Scott Rob's books and videos and stuff, while doing some anatomy stuff on the side to keep it going, but once I finish that imma jump all in with Anatomy to really nail it.

But yeah, we did Miology, and musular forms, and how to construct muscle groups back in art school, it just wasn't enough, and with the foundation I do have, I know I can get a lot further if I really focus on it. I've made much more progress with perspective already for example.

>>2634231
I jump back and forth between the two. When I have a burst of immagination, I binge doing creative works for a couple weeks, and once that fuel starts to run out, I bounce back to the hard core studies and exercises and grinds. Till the ideas come back again, and I jump back to those. However, I always make sure to have some exercises and stuff going while I'm binging creative works. I've learned that the best way to learn for me, isn't to just focus on one thing or one piece and getting it done, but rather, working on multiple things at the same time and bouncing between them. It leads to many less burnouts, and keeps you going.

I think I'm certainly approaching that point where my foundation is good enough that I can express myself more freely and truly just have a lot more fun doing some really cool stuff.

Not quite there yet, but I feel I can really just taste it now. I figure that at the pace I'm going, I'll be there in a good 6 more months.

>>2634049
thats fucking dope anon, loving the way you did the water

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First drawing in 2 years I think, I think the last time I posted was 2013

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rate my futa pharah

>>2633802
I'm not an artist, but I am a viewer. I think you either need to darken the rocks, or darken the color of the girl.

That deep shade of blue is practically another dark green.

There's no variation aside from the color, and on top of this my eye is no immediately drawn to the girl. That lone color doesn't feel like enough.

You might want to consider your framing/the rule of thirds more if you haven't already.

My eye feels more drawn to the distance (leading lines towards the VP in the fissure on the ground) than to the foreground.

>>2634263
Thanks, did fiddle around a lot with the water here but in the end it's always my favourite thing to paint.

>>2634288
0/10
futafags ruin everything

>>2634285
pretty gud, I like the values

I'm nobody, don't mind me, can you guys critique my critique?

>>2633141
>>2633142

Cool, don´t get which one of the bots is supposed to be cute though

>>2633261
Perspective kicks my ass, but the front wheels on the car on the mid-right bothered me.

>>2633268
I like the first one, but all look good to me

>>2633338
I believe the biggest issues are the eyes. Iris shape, eye shape, eyeball shading (especially the right one)

>>2633392
I like the colors, torso and up look good, but the legs aren't. Thigh on raised leg is too big, the other leg is weird, especially if you remove that piece of cloth there.

>>2633401
I missed a little bit more shadowing on the vases to the left of the pic, and the perspective is off

>>2633481
I like it!

>>2633657
Seems good to me, might trigger the fatties though

>>2633669
I like it, but something about his face is bothering me

>>2633678

those two images should be either better integrated or separated. Liked the drawings though

>>2633697
I don't like it, can't explain why. I think it's the light coming from everywhere and the way it is reflecting from the skin, I dunno. Maybe a better anon can help.

>>2633704
I like it, moar details!

>>2633802
Can't help you with the comp but I like it. Feet confuse me.

>>2633894
Looks good to me

>>2633950
I like it, except for the legs

>>2634049
hnnnng

>>2634208
This one is better. Back of the head looks weird.

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>>2634208

done

>>2634396
Thanks for some genuinely helpful advice man!

>>2633697
>>2634396
No definied focal point, no defined light source, and bad perspective.

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Can you imagine what dingdongs would be like in this world if it were possible to work out your dong like a muscle? Really makes you think...

>>2634413
You need to go to the beginner thread and learn there.

>>2633268
top right>bottom>top left>middle

Middle is pretty stiff.

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I feel like this one turned out pretty well, crits?

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I've been drawing this design for myself from a while now, however I struggle with the last bone (the one that's being pointed with a blue arrow) Could some of you fix it? or give insight on what to do? I'm desperate, I've tried everything and it always ends up looking like this, without detail and shitty. I'm not sure if this is the correct thread though, I'm a newfag on /ic/.

>>2634464
I'd do dingdong deadlifts daily

>>2634676
something something ED joke something something

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Just fuck my shit up senpai. I've spent too long fiddling with this and I need someone to tear me up so I can fix what I can't see. My biggest problem is that I often spend too much time looking at the picture or getting sidetracked, postponing important things like fleshing out the female's design. Hours can go by and I only paint a few strokes and make a few adjustments.

I'm guessing this is what happens when I try to practice and paint at the same time.

Also before you say anything I have the girls face on a separate layer and it is much cleaner. Those shadows were a quick and shitty attempt to try and make the lighting click for me.

>>2633395
Kek

>>2634442
Ok, how can I change it? Make background darker?

>>2634464
Head is too big.

>>2633141
Bane?

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Took it a bit further

>>2634717
I think you need to do more photo studies senpai. You're not at that level of drawing from imagination yet. Also, your designs are very conflicting in theme.

Hello, your images are all very boring. Why do you care so much about technique when you have nothing interesting to say?
It's like watching grammar naz's trying to do poetry.

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>>2635136

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do I have potential?

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How do I digital art?

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How do I digital art?

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>>2634717

You have a pretty sky anon, use it when painting your figures.

Also, play with the cast shadow of his shield to enhance the forms of his body.

>>2635142
No I honestly think your paintings are boring.

>>2635168
excellent constructive criticism

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I was trying out a new process with some quick environments recently

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>>2635194

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>>2635195
How can I improve my technique?

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WIP, have a lot of work to do...havn't done any work in ages lads.

>>2635194
>>2635195
>>2635199
Nice to see someone else working on environments in this thread.

I'm not sure what exactly you mean by technique, but I can give you a few pointers.

-Composition. There's too much stuff going on with all of these pictures. While fitting a lot in a single shot can be good for production paintings (it allows you to show off several things at once), you're still bound by the basic rules of composition. I'm gonna expand on this with several sub-points because I see a lot of stuff you're doing wrong:

-Focal point: all three of your pictures have two conflicting focal points of equal interest (it's always two light sources). Ideally, you want to turn one down and make it softer ambient light, so you can keep only one as a strong light source (primary or close to it). Put your money (the details, the cool characters and concepts) close to that point of interest. Keep the rest subtle.

-Use detail selectively. You've got several unnecessarily detailed elements that serve only to distract from the piece. The best example I can give is in the third painting - while the guy with his spaceship should be the focal point of the piece, you've got a big guy in the foreground taking away attention, and this guy is pretty well lit too. In fact, a lot of your figures share the same amount of detail and focus, even though they're spread out over the entire paintings, which is going to make them look like bad photoshop collages.

-Saturation: The colors you've laid down are interesting and provide a good foundation to paint on (esp. for production paintings), but they're too saturated all over. This isn't a problem where your focal points would be, but I'd use saturation more sparingly on "background" elements (the less important ones like these pink flowers). You can still make them look interesting by working in mid-values and mid-saturations, and only pushing your colors to the extremes for a few highlights.

(cont. with the rest of the points)

>>2635194
>>2635195
>>2635199
The brushwork on the figures is far too fine to fit in with the broad implied detail of the environments.

One of your many, many problems.

cont. of >>2635221

-Your brushwork is decent, though you may want to look out for edge control. You've got problems with everything being either hard-edged (first pic) or soft-edged (second and third pic from all the low-contrast blending). Something I find helps separate edges is to work with selection masks and a feather and hard brush only to start a painting.

-You're missing the storytelling aspect of production paintings. You have a lot of characters but it's not very clear who they are or what they're doing - most of them seem to be chilling there without any purpose. The second painting has four different characters with none of them sharing any kind of coherent theme - you've got a mysterious green pimp with a cane, a space marine, some sort of insect creature and a tron dwarf. What exactly are they all doing in this forest? Same for the guys with the spaceship in painting #3. Foreground guy is stuck in a super generic pose. Is he a scout? Looking out for enemies? Crashed, and searching for supplies? Try to think about the logic behind your characters, don't just design and pose them to look cool.

-Design language: I don't really see any clear design intent behind those paintings, and that's something we should be able to sense, even if they're roughs. The first painting looks like some sort of western town, but the design is all over the place. You've got a big, blocky building in the middle with some stylized details that look more cartoony than realistic, then some arches that look middle-eastern or byzantine at the left, and some buildings at the right that look like they belong on Tatooine. To top that off, you've got these intricate, wrought iron lampposts with lots of curves when everything else in your picture is blocky. There's also an entirely mechanical robot, being contrasted by an alien camel which doesn't have anything mechanical and seems to be dressed in silk and other fabrics.

(cont.)

cont. of >>2635244 (whew, that ended up being a long one)

My parting advice would be that you need to think more about what you're putting into these paintings, both before and as you do them. Plan out places, characters, situations, aesthetics. Plan out shapes in advance - if you're going to draw a town, don't just think that you need buildings and people and streetlights and clutter. Plan out a specific architecture. Make it cohesive. Put hard edges with hard edges, soft curves with other soft curves. Put the fancy with the fancy, and the run-down with the run-down. This is always gonna be true no matter what you're painting, whether it be scifi, fantasy, historical scenes, or even something completely cartoony and out there.

I get that it isn't what you asked for and doesn't entirely relate to technique (well, some of it does), but design is equally important and at least 50% responsible for what makes it so people find your pictures cool or not.

>>2635218
Boobs feel tacked on, they're rendered nicely but are the only thing receiving highlights while I'd expect the forms around them to get a bit more light too. Both the sections above and below the boobs look completely flat - have you planned your muscles for the torso?

Also, boobs are asymmetrical (one is round and the other is egg-shaped).

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>>2633396
>>2634396
Aye.
Someone else mentioned that the balance was off.
I decided to start over to sort out that issue as well as the issues you guys pointed out. There's still something up with the raised arm, but I'm hoping this is an improvement.

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Drew along with Vilppu, and then used a piece of tracing paper to do a thing.
Done in like 20 minutes but honestly probably wouldnt have been any better even if I put more effort and time.

>>2635161

HOLY FUCK I LOVE YOU

Love seeing my work rendered by another person. Really helps my mind explore the possibilities and learn what I'm doing wrong.

>>2635255

Who said boobs are symmetrical anyway?

>>2635249
>>2635244
>>2635221

That's some detailed and useful feedback. I realised I often clutter up the composition with my process of randomly throwing shapes down and not doing much planning but it works for me since I can keep going once I get enough momentum. I like comments about saturation and focal points too. I got the values down ok but hue/saturation still needs work.

I only started taking environments seriously lately, I'll definitely think about your advice some more. Thanks anon, I appreciate it.

>>2635296
looking a lot better

>>2635305
Pay more attention to the relation of hip to torso and use structure between gesture and final drawing

>>2635296
>>2635646
Agreed, much better!

Wouldn't her boobs be a little more stretched if her back is arcing like that? also, the calf on the left leg seems a little too big

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>>2635774

Uploaded from phone, didnt realize it doesnt auto rotate

>>2634605
The only thing I would suggest right now is deeper values. It feels a little flat because you are not pushing the shadows and highlights enough. Besides that it is really good.

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>>2634605
>>2635836
I just adjusted the brightness and contrast a bit and it looks much less washed out.

>>2635838
>is really good

Not sure if all the asymmetry is intentional or a mistake. Your brushwork is also really unsure, especially near the right side of his forehead.

>>2635161

What brush did you use senpaitchi

>>2635844
I was not OP of the pic I was just messing with the contrast and brightness. Sorry for the confusion.

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Random drawing because I'm high and can't sleep.

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>>2635850

Paint Tool Sai. I fiddle with the red-underlined settings depending on what I want it to do, normally its opacity/density is at 90-100.

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Hotline miami fan art n shit

>>2635861

Did it get any better?

Last time I tried to use it off a recommendation I almost blew my head off.

>>2635869

I only use it because my computer sucks. PS and other software are probably much better.

>>2635869
It's never the tool, anon.

>>2635877

Yeah, the laggy fucking interphase with unresponsive buttons were totally my fault.

>>2635879
I'm not any of those anons but I really recommend Clip Studio paint. I'm new to it myself too but thus far all of the tools have felt pretty great to use. I haven't done much with the painting tools yet but the drawing tools all simulate what they represent really fucking well.

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wip of a schoolism tutorial

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Obviously none of these are perfect, but I wanted to get back into painting.
Any opinions/suggestions/advice on these sketches?
How should I approach coloring? That's the most daunting thing for me.

>>2633431
That's really good anon, compared to where I am in my autistic journey.

>>2633585
Thanks for new phone wallpaper

>>2635844
Yes, I noticed the asymmetry myself a while after finishing. As for the brushstrokes, I really am not a painter and am quite new to digital. That said, I feel like this one was a big leap for me.

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I know it's only a sketch, but why does this look so bad? Is it too thin or something?

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>>2636122
I wonder if this is better or worse. I feel like I'm losing my grip.

>>2633248
gestures are a bit hard to start out with if you're new to drawing. I think you're better of right now practicing the fundamentals. You should also really post in the beginners thread.

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help

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Done with this, I have to move on

>>2635521
Keep at it! It's challenging to become good at, but an integral part of being a good artist imo (and a pro if that's what you want to be). A lot of internet artists draw only figures and limit themselves by doing so.

>>2633268
Top right! Top right!

>>2635864
Global composition is good, but local values are all over the place. There's too much pure white - it should be limited to primary light sources (these little dots indicating neons in the background) and rim lighting on the character. This looks finished, but if you plan to revisit the painting you should tone down some of the white on reflections (tables and poles) as well as on these tv screens. Don't make the bg fog white either, crunching down your values towards the midtones will help show distance and separate the character a bit more.

Another place where you could remove some pure white is on the neon curtains - they almost create a second focal point that 1. takes away from the main character and 2. breaks the line of sight between the fg character and the main character.

The rest of the painting is good! The composition, although it's made of a few simple elements, ends up looking quite dynamic. Your light sources also do a good job of covering the whole picture with the right amount of direct light, backlight, and ambient light. Maybe one thing I dislike is the lack of consistency within your textures. Some of the stuff (like the background and main char) is painted with heavy contrast and lots of dark-black outlines, making it look more cartoony or like edited photos, while some of the stuff (the other two guys, the foreground walls with the curtains) is painted with realistic values and no outlines.

>>2635946
use some real references (maybe from a fashion shoot) for an idea on color and value

>>2636322
Thanks, that's a really good idea

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18x24 conte crayon

Rate plz? What needs the most work?

>>2636300
The face up top is really weak compared to the rest of the painting whic is stellar. The rim lighting shouldnt be on both the bottom and top lip, and the value range is overall really too low.

Again the rest of it is fucking great man. It would be a shame not to see you finish strong.

>>2636723
I would say you need to work on contrast and shading, the pillow on the couch melts into her. And theres not alot of variance in the depth of the shadows you use. Otherwise pretty good.

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criticism, please :)

>>2636732
beginner thread go

>>2636723
She looks like a giant raisin or nut sack.

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okay I'm done with this

>>2636723
I think you need to separate the light family and shadow family clearly. i.e. the lightest dark is never lighter than the darkest light. Look at the cast shadow at the neck. That value is pretty much your midtone on the face. Likewise her right hand (our left) has incorrect values, relative to the face.

You do this too often, i almost feel guilty not saying it earlier. A remedial method is to establish the range of values that your pencil/medium can achieve (by drawing something similar to a value scale) and split it in two, respective to light/shadow family. For each life drawing you do, you need to establish where you split the scale. For example, if your focus on the subject is mostly in light, you want the light family to be larger than the shadow family, so you split it in favour of light. If your focus on the subject is in shadow, do the opposite. Youre trying to define too many things in both the shadow and light, and you end up extending the shadow family into the light and vice versa

You can also use the value scale to determine, beforehand the value ranges of different objects/materials. Try to distinguish your props with different value ranges; the pillow, dress, white cloth, skin, hair, chair. You can then split those ranges to their light/shadow families. This whole value thing plays a big part in compositions, arrangements and design which is a sort of separate thing from drawing itself. Ill say thats a good drawing, but poorly designed

>>2636773
you are totally right. i will make that scale next time on the same page as my drawing.

thanks for such a spot on critique. i feel like this little insight into organization is going to help take my drawing to the next level.

>>2636732
I, am in LOVE with your style

ignore the haters, keep on keeping on!

>>2636206
Dude what do you need help with? I love it so far. Especially the lips.

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perspective grind, trying to incorporate characters into the designs.

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>>2636855
and some thing i'm not sure i wanna finish, i kinda finf the entire thing boring.

>>2636767
....so are we.

>>2633114
nice drawing shame youre a sick fuck

>>2636858
them asses. the guy looks terrible though

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>>2633084

ra8

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bored doodles in my sketch book today

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wip

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>>2633657
Messing around with lighting

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>>2637251
How the fuck does the pelvis work? When to show the ASIS? When to show obliques? Abs? Should I end my life?

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>>2636844
thank you :-) i was wondering if it looked off

>>2636855
keep going my man, this is nice as fuk
>>2636916
you're still kinda symbol drawing with the ears and lips. dont skimp out on drawing shit like that, give it your all. your nose should be bigger and that neck curves weird. id look at wesley burt's stuff for an idea on how to lay down pencil values.

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a commission I'm finishing up, anyone have any tips on how to make the underwater scenery have more...life to it? never painted this sort of stuff before.

>>2636855
Are you going to make the balls spinning? They'll look more balanced that way

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will add some more people but how should i manage the light ? is the comp ok ?

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>>2637354
look at real underwater scenes, yours is lacking in depth and dimension. Its coming off pretty flat.

I like the blue in the background though.

>>2637354
Go through Drawabox.com and arm yourself with patience. You can thank me later.

Then color theory and values, yours are pretty bad. Keep it up, anon.

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First tablet, first artwork.
Rate?

Also, how do you anons arrange your layers?

>>2637508
can't tell if serious

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i'm prolly gonna die trying to render the entire thing like this but w/e.

>>2637352
thanks

>>2637464
yeah altough i usually add effects like that near the end.

>>2637500
fuck off muhammed

>>2637354
Maybe add some 'atmospheric perspective' to his body parts that are farther away

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sailor sketch

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HELP /ic/, I'm frustrated and in trouble. I hope it's okay if I ask here, if not feel free to call me a faggot.

What steps do you take to make a finished painting at a steady, effective pace? I had a great flow of thumbnailing and I already know what to do, but after I've literally been the last 3 weeks making almost no progress whatsoever, I'm absolutely stuck. I have some kind of lineart, some kind of grayscale, and I have no idea how to move on. I trust my skills, that's one thing I'm proud of. But something is wrong with this.

The worst part of all is that it's a fucking commission, a big important one. I NEED to keep going.

>>2637618
that's kind of crazy.
what are you expecting? a magic formula?
maybe you should hang motivational poster in your room?
>I trust my skills
what do you even mean?

start making sense. how could anyone help you with what you have written?

>>2637618
>finalize the lineart
>send to client for possible revisions
>make adjustments accordingly
>greyscale underpainting if you need/want it
>choose color scheme
>paint it, sending updates to client as needed

>>2637622
I now realize I didn't make fucking sense with my post. What I tried to say, I think, is, there's a problem with my workflow and I wanted to know what were your steps to not be all over the place when working from a thumbnail to a finished painting. It might give me an idea of where to go next. Not a magic formula, just some direction from looking at other people's steps, am I asking too much maybe? Sorry.

>>2637628
nobody can give you any valuable advice with that kind of information. For all it's worth, you could be semi-pro or illastrat-tier.
Post something. Ask for specific advice. Otherwise one could only give you advice that you could find in a Feng Zhu video.

>>2637628
why dont you go look at some videos on the internet lol.>?

look at this, first result on youtube, under 'painting from lineart' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnkMOyynuus

>>2637630
>>2637636
>>2637626
Thanks. This >>2637626 was what helps me the most, exactly what I was looking for, that anon gets it.

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>>2637467
?

>>2637642
The man shouldnt be half in and out of the image, move him in to see his full body.

And maybe make him smaller to make the flying object look larger?

>>2633802
love the contrast of colors

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Do the colours look okay? I'm not used to working from grayscale and had to make a few adjustments in RGB

>>2637749
Your colors are great, the midtones look a little unnaturally yellow, but that could just he the reference's lighting. Anyway, straight to fap folder.

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As a kid, I didn't know what to do with my arms when standing neutral and now I don't know what to do with my sketch's arms. Anyway, how are my proportions (besides the arms)?

>>2633401
traditional media? If so what was the process of rendering this ?

>>2634288
does....does he...just have one swollen ball?

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Started paying wow again :( heres a wip

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wips posted in other thread, thoughts? also lel merged perspective grid onto painting without noticing.

top is a study

>>2638034

Holy fuck those lines are sexy.

How did you do that?

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>>2638036
the grid?

shape tool with 99 side

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>>2638038
oops. also click the cog and set it to star

Conte crayon ~3 hours. Kudos to the anon who told me about lightest darks and darkest lights as well as making a scale. Really helped my drawing. /ic/ does work!!

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>>2638040
Durr

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I'll probably give this another render pass but for now I'm done.

Random sketch. What should I work on to improve?

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>>2638226
Forgot to actually attach the pic

>>2638229
Rotating the pic
Resizing the pic
Erasing the signature
Posting in beginner thread.

>>2638041
hey man, reflected light is also part of the shadow family. Reflected light is the lightest dark, and it looks very similar to your midtone (midtone being the darkest light)

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Early WIP
I'm not really sure about that prespective but anyway

>>2637642
Been looking at some Simon Stalenhag?

>>2638041
i guarantee you screwed up the value distribution, can you post the reference if there is one?

>>2638493
i like it
looks like his right leg doesn't quite reach his pelvis

>>2637601
looks traced

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update on this thing, not really sure what to do from here on.

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>>2633084
I drew my role model sonic!

>>2638575
Why doesn't the character cast a shadow? It makes it look like it's been added later and it's not part of the drawing.
Aside from that, that background is god-tier. I can't really tell if it's digital or traditional. In case it's traditional, what have you used?

P.S. Blog?

>>2638039
>>2638038

Thank you sexy

>>2638518
It was from life. I never said it was perfect.

>>2633261
It's not bad anon but you should be careful what you are drawing. Fast lines are fine as long as you are drawing the streets and road stuff but you should slow it down when you get to the cars until you are a pro

>>2638021
I really like this

>>2633263
That's really good man

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complete noob here, any advice?

>>2638785
I'm kind of a noob too, but I think what would help you would be considering how you make your lines in relation to the proportions of the other lines.

>>2638785
Try again and next time post in the begginers thread

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drawing from today. trying to get back into pens cause they're fun

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Fuck freelance contests. It's still 24 hrs until deadline and that client rushed and picked winner minutes before I uploaded my entry. I'm mad as hell. Fuck this shit. Fuck Canada and everyone in it. That 100 buck was mine! Or wasn't. I'll never know now.

What's the general consensus on Mischief?

Anyone use it?

I know that Stephen Silver uses it.

>>2638859
not sure about the general consensus but I like it.
As long as it isn't your primary digital drawing software it's nice to have. Linework is really good and the unlimited scroll feature allows for some interesting things. It is, however, abysmal for color and has a limited toolset. If you spend a lot of time sketching, doing linework, or cartoons of some sort... would recommend. Otherwise, it's best to avoid entirely.

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>>2638885

>>2633261
Spent about twice as long on this one. I tried to pay more attention to perspective. Am i getting closer?

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>>2638889
Gadummit

>>2638785
Love it.

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just drew this, can anyone critique?

>>2638897
How many fucking times are you going to post this

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>>2638963
hey, thats pretty good, but im not sure if your camera sucks or if you put some kind of filter on the picture, or did you just smudge it weird like a mothafucka?!?!?

>>2637457
the purple people eater had one eye, ONE LEG, AND ONE FUCKING HORN!

this looks like Cthulhu Oogie Boogie! witch is also good.

Yeah my camera sucks and a little smuging was applied but the camera makes it look weird

>>2635336
if woody allen was mila kunis. top kek anon!

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Is this an ok gesture/figure from imagination?

I'm pretty sure the leg jutting out is very awkward, but I don't know how to fix it.

>>2639050
try to replicate whatever pose you´re trying to draw yourself and see how your body naturally adjusts to it.

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Schumann

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Critique pls

>>2636317
Thank you so much!!!
I'll revisit this asap :)

>>2638854
this is very confusing
perspective is either way off or the thing is supposed to look curved

either way it's reading as flat

>>2639062
Too stylized to make a critique

>>2638792
>>2638810
thanks for the info, appreciate it!

>>2638905
okay

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I think I'm done with this, was fun and good color practice

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I don't usually do construction, but im trying to put this guy together and paint him on a large panel for a story scene.

>>2637251
Trying to render, could really use some guidance since I don't have much experience at rendering yet.

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>>2639408
forgot pics

>>2639357
Looks good reminds me of Sycra's art

>>2633248
wtf even is the second one from the right it looks like his thighs r dislocated

>>2633678
add different hues in ur shading not just diff shades ://

>>2639411
It doesn't read well
I would make the shadow way shorter until it get in the floor(maybe make the canvas longer) and let the machine get some light. That way I could see his fat shadow better and the machine would get more importance. Then maybe you could make the door shadow shorter too. Also that hand looks weird and it shouldn't cover the machine soo much
Aside from that, the rendering is going really well.
I'm sorry if it's too late for that kind of changes, and I would understand if you don't want to change it, but at least define that shadow a lot,

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thoughts? i want to do a thing of what batman sees on the scarecrows serum : P

>>2639453
this was a quickie sketch also

>>2639062
i like it very nice ngl thot it was gon be shit animetomy 12 y/o drawing before zooming in

>>2639050
holi fuck no idk how to fix it but legs look dislocated :0 maybe make torso or legs a bit longer?

>>2638785
study basic anatomy

>>2638890
Aboud chiken scratch please. Do the long straight lines in one line, think about the direction it goes before and don't go over it again, even if you messed. At least it will look confident, because the prespective is not really good
The upper part is kind of better, maybe go to a closer bench, because that vegetation is more interesting and it will be better for practising abstraction

>>2639464
*Avoid*

>>2638881
I've tried a long time ago, like 4 years I think, and it was fun but still a very rough software, unusable for anything other than sketching. Did they make it better?

>>2639357
What was your technique to create that effect on the strokes? A particular brush? Look very interesting

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Still a WiP

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I've been trying to get into watercolors, never actually used them before apart for a few trys just to see what they were like. What do you think?

>>2639468
Ehhh, it's a bit better.
It's cheaper now, at least. If you want to check it out, there's a free version as well. I wouldn't say it's much different but I really like it for lineart and notes. 6/10 but doesn't cost much and the free version I would recommend.

whos gonna make a new thread

>>2638582
I wasn't sure how to render the shadows with the particular style i was using in this drawing.
It's PS, I used the same basic round brush with like 80% opacity on the whole thing.

yaow12.tumblr.com

worst fucking artist thread ever

>>2639488
Those lips look symbol drawn, notice the hard outline.

anyone here who knows how to draw dragons?
and if so how do you draw them so that they don't look like absolute shite?

>>2639401
>I don't usually do construction

That's pretty bad dude.
You're making art that looks nice, but you're missing out on the ability to make whatever you want.

I used to draw just like you, but then I realized that there's something fundamentally wrong with my art.

>>2639813
Heh.... you came to the dragon master.

>>2639860
Teach me the ways of the dragons please!

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>>2639860
how to improve from this?

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>>2639357
Love it, so I took a liberty in editing it a bit. Some color balance, overlay gradients, color doge, high pass, lens correction. In case you interested.

>>2639853
Please highlight the fumbling fundamentals? Ty

Also, your old work would be cool to see, just so I get it

>>2639880
The orange areas look overblown to me. You also kind of ruined the smooth texture the skin had. On his it looked fleshy, on yours it looks like splotches of paint rather than skin.
Overall I think the subtlety of the original was nicer.

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Can anyone critique?

>>2633972

I'm gonna need sauce on second from the top left.

What?

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>>2640392