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Last Artist Standing #4

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Grand Prize
>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best

Rules
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you can make up for it the next day with a double post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions

Entry into the fourth challenge is open until Friday at 23:59:59 GMT. People who join after then will be entered into the less awesome Last Artist Standing #5
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>anon uses photobucket
what is this? 2005?
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>>2376879
Wait, what year is it?
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How long does the current challenge last for?
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>>2376882

> insert picture of smug english current year man
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>>2376889
until there's only one artist left. the first challenge still has 94 people
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http://strawpoll.me/6699021
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>>2376882
It's 2036, why haven't you got a cute robot maid to wait on you yet?
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who doesnt think it'll last even a year
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>>2376889
Until the heat death of the universe.
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>>2376882
Year of our lord MMXI.

>>2376889
Up until Battle Royale starts and people start dying.
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>>2376896
Fuck I fell asleep for 20 years I must have missed thousands of submissions
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Most people think LAS 1 will end in 2018
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>>2376900
It's okay, you can join challenge #1044
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>>2376901
The strawpoll is an excellent way to scare away participants
>Yes, yes, give up! You'll never make it to 2018 anyway!

Mad skills
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>>2376901
Is Rover gonna win?
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>>2376909
When the killing starts, he'll be #1 on the hitlist.
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>>2376856

that autistic mark making gives me cancer. OP use big brushes to block in your scene please
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What do I draw for this?
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so how many of you are pulling out old works not to get eliminated? be honest.
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>>2376916
Whatever your heart desires

fag
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>>2376919
It hasn't come to that yet and this is day 24, so I doubt I will ever have to. It would look like shit compared to my current stuff anyways
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>>2376919
I've pulled only 1 and to be honest it wasn't that old
>I'm a piece of shit
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>>2376916
Anything, as long as it looks like you spent at least 30 minutes working on it, you can submit WIPs for several days as long as each installment looks like you spent an additional 30 minutes on them
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>Be cleaning hard drive
>Find 2 gbs full of childhood photos
Seems like it's time for a feels trip
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>>2376919
i post everything i draw so nothing old from me yet
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(I originally posted this over the Animenative Art/Stylization General but since I like you LAS people I thought I'd also post this here).

I suck at drawing eyes (I don't mean realistic ones - those I can since it's just a matter of copying real life). Girl eyes specifically (I don't care about dudes). I'm fine with drawing pretty much anything but this. I can visualize what I want to do but applying it just doesn't work. It's like I can't manage to find my own "style" (yeah I know muh style), or in other words I can't find what'd feel right to me. I could probably copy eyes from whatever manga or anime or someone else's style but it'd just feel too wrong to do this.

I would like to gather different opinions from you guys - how did you get good at drawings eyes? What made it all click for you? Does anyone happen to have resources or hacks to draw eyes? Did you just copy eyes you found were cool from your favorite artists and with time slowly altered them until you were satisfied or something? Any tips/advice?

I'll check back until the thread dies, I appreciate any reply. Thanks for reading.
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>>2376914
>>2376914
Will do. Big brushes always feel very unwieldy to me but I'll block in colors and values larger and better when I get to work. Thanks.
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>>2376950
Think of eyes as balls not ovals. Draw eyes inside the skull and the eyelids covering them
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>>2376950
just experiment a lot, draw one eye, then draw another one with a different shape, then another one, etc... after a bunch of them, take whatever you like from them and combine them into another eye. Take inspiration from artists you like, don't straight up copy from them, but take whatever you like about how they draw eyes, the shape, the iris, the eyelashes, whatever. Also it's good to understand how eyes work in real life, how light reflects from them, how they look from different perspectives, etc. Take this with a grain of salt though, because I've never sat down to create my own style, but if I had to, this is how I would go about it. But I also believe that "manufactured" style tends to be pretty hit and miss, you may spend a ton of hours experimenting with stuff, and when you finally have something you feel is cool looking, other people may not like it so much. Take Sycra's "pointy" style for example, he has spent a lot of time developing it, but in the end I think it doesn't look that great (personal taste), it feels too artificial.

Also >>2376995
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>>2376919
I only did it once but nobody noticed it because nobody notices me ever
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>>2377015
Hello there fellow 23:30 ninja-slacker
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>>2377015
i noticed ಠ_ಠ
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>>2377015
Burn the hethen
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You know who I fucking hate?

The nerdy cunt on the front of the Strathmore Sketchbook. Every fucking time I want to draw something in my sketchbook I have to see this asshole and his awesome art room and I'm reminded of how fucking shit I am in comparison. You'll look at it initially and think "oh boy, I'm getting excited about the POSSIBILITIES" but no, you open it and your shaky ass hands draw ellipses with parkinsons-tier line quality.

Fuck this guy.
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>>2377054
Who is the artist?
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>>2377054
Tear the cover off, man
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>>2377054
You'll make it someday parkinsons-tier boy, I believe in you
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>>2377061

It's in the bottom right of the image, Tommy Castillo.
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>>2376919
i did that like 5 times, the funny thing is that all my links were off my tumblr, so the date was visible and noone fucking noticed.
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>>2377093

Why even participate when you're going to do that sort of shit?
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>>2377093

Well, I guess it'll be pretty easy to find you now.
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>>2377093
>>2377015
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvvvaaaaaaaa BAN THEM BAN THEM ALL
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>>2377098
If you guys find cheaters then I'll eliminate them. I do look at every submission but I'll admit that I never thought to check when they were posted. I'll start doing that now
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>>2377103
>I do look at every submission
But there are so many, every day! You're an absolute madman Lava. Are you sure you can keep this up all on your own? What happens if you get sick?
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May I suggest something?

I'll admit it I only look at the submissions posted before mine (it's always around 50) when I upload my daily drawing. After that I usually go to bed and by the time I wake up it's already the new day, so in the end I'm only able to see half of the submissions.

I'd like it if there was a "see yesterday's submissions" table with everything uploaded the day before, especially since I don't follow anyone; not that I hate you guys but deep in my heart I'm rooting for everyone of you so it's only fair if I get to see all of your wonderful submissions. Also on a side note it would probably help catching the people eventually cheating more easily.
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>>2377093
Why would you do that?
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>>2377129
you mean something like this?
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>>2377129
you can view previous days, click the blue arrows on the top left on the submissions page
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>>2377134
>>2377135
Damn I'm stupid. Thanks.
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>>2377129
Dude...
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>>2377118
There's not that many! And I don't just look at them I like REALLY look at them because there are so many people at the same level but they all do things slightly different. I wish there were fewer people so I could better learn each person's style at a glance. Rover, Loomis, Saucy, Stella, NaturalisIII and jmgn are the only ones I recognize immediately

>What happens if you get sick?

2 days before the site went live I got the flu so I spent the first week of the challenge dying while trying to develop the site and not get eliminated. The site is automated enough so that every day people will be eliminated and every week a new challenge will start. If I die then the site will keep going until the hosting expires

>>2377129
On the update I'm working on it'll keep track of how many new submissions there have been since you last visited the submission page. There's no way to check if you've actually checked the submission but it's better than nothing.

By the way you can view previous submission in the archive by clicking the blue arrows at the top and bottom of the submissions page (pic related)
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>>2376919
Thats pretty sad dude, its just 30 minutes.
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>>2377141
>Rover, Loomis, Saucy, Stella, NaturalisIII and jmgn
Nile was on that list too but he got eliminated and I should add Anon313, Helio and Humanbean (seriously dude check out Scott Robertson's book)
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>>2377103
Thisis why you should make the tribunal/report system first.
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>>2377141
>And I don't just look at them I like REALLY look at them because there are so many people at the same level but they all do things slightly different.
Lava, why are you so moe?
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>>2377141
>>2377158
>tfw Lava senpai doesn't notice you
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>>2377164
>Mfw you still in forza yet dont get noticed

Could be worse get over it.
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>>2377141
>Rover, Loomis, Saucy, Stella, NaturalisIII and jmgn are the only ones I recognize immediately
Is that bad or good?
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Lava please think of a challenge for next week
If it goes on like this any longer people will get too used to it
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>>2377194
the first challenge HAS to be sonic related
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>>2377199
Sonic with dragon dicks. His own dick, getting fucked by a dragon, using a BD dildo. Whatever it is, this is the most fit to be our first challenge. The weak won't make it.
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>>2377199
>>2377202
NO SONIC!!!!!
Art related like draw hands or lose.
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>>2377199
>>2377202

sonic autists please go
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>>2377186
Nah it's not bad, they're consistent and distinct. Probably 2/3s of submitters I recognize but I just can't put a name to the art. Like there's this one guy that does really cool dynamic poses but their anatomy is weird and there's another guy that draws cute anime girls but he's inconsistent

>>2377194
>>2377199
>>2377202
Alright I'm going to do my best to have the update ready before the next challenge starts. I'll have to cut back on the art a little but I'll still get a couple hours in each day. Time to get to work
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>>2377199
k
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>>2377218
>tfw you're really inconsistent and wish you could draw the same thing twice
Guess that's what studying is for
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>>2377202
>His own dick, getting fucked by a dragon, using a BD dildo.
fucking wot
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>>2377218
I love Naturalis work he/she is bad but....bad cute.
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>>2377238
Ok Rover.
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>>2377218
D-do you recognize me, Lava-senpai?
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>>2377238
dreadful
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>>2377218
lol
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>mfw i check my phone at 3am
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>>2377259
post work
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>>2377265
It's on the site, take your pick
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>>2377265
no
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>>2377141
>tfw got noticed by kouhai
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>>2377270
Don't reply in my place fuckwit
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>>2377267
Rover, Rover and only Rover.
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>>2377273
I wanted to post that screenshot famerino
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>>2377218
You'll know and fear my name soon Lava you fuck. I'm gonna be your favourite.
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>>2377284
The true purpose of LAS is to get lava-senpai to notice you
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23:30 club members are sleeping (◡ ‿ ◡ )
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>>2377141
L-Lava.
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>>2377186
>tfw you'll never be as good as Helio or jmgn
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>>2377291
no
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>>2377295
Every artist you love has been worse than you are right now at some point in their life. You can do it I believe in you
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>>2377158
>tfw mentioned by based lava
And yeah I am working through that book as well as his gnomon videos. Just need to put in more time.
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Am I the only one that's getting
>The day has ended. Refreshing in 30 seconds.

I'm really scared, guys. Usually I post in mornings but a normie came over and took me out of neetmode and I'm out of town.
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>>2377300
L-lava
just checking those dubs, it's not like I love you or anything o//////////o
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>>2377303
You fucker!!!
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>>2377306
It won't let me post ;_;
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>>2377303
Odds are the time on your PC is wrong. There's still 3.3h til the deadline
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>>2377295
Helio just stop.
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>>2377307
natural selection at its finest
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>>2377307
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>>2377308
It's not typical, but it's right. 5:32am here in Asia. Can't post from my tablet either.
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>>2377307
What happens when you try? If you're >>2377303 then yeah check the time on your PC and make sure it's set correctly
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I'm prepared to beat the record and submit at 23:59:59
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>>2377313
Do you have the right time zone set as well? That's the only other thing that can affect it
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>>2377315
Good for you.
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>>2377315
this is how the weak will be weeded out
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>>2377319
>weak
its called bravery
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sometimes getting mentioned/not mentioned says more about the people throwing names around in these threads.

That's why you should take praise and criticism with a grain of salt.
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7 here
shitty comic update. i reworked the images i posted yesterday and added a little bit more text.
planned on making it longer but its time consuming...
tell me what u think anons
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>>2377316
That did it. thanks lava senpai. My bud had his laptop at the right time but wrong zone.

I don't like to bring mine when I travel in Asia. I might get shanked.
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>>2377321
What do you mean?
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Holy shit I just checked the timestamps and Loli has been the last person to post 6 times, second last 3 times and third last 3 times. Some of those times with only a couple seconds to spare. If Rover is the leader of team forza then I think we found the captain of the 23:30 club
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>>2377322
fuck you, why did you leave that cliffhanger
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>>2377331

terribly sorry anon but my hand hurts from drawing.
will resolve it tomorrow
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>>2377322
I'm glad you removed that line when he/she kicked the door and I hope there are more LAS comics
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>>2377330
NOICE loli
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>>2377322
confused me at first cause im a weeb and was reading it backwards, otherwise looking pretty good I will be waiting to see more
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>>2377330
I, for one, welcome our loli overlord.
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>>2377330
Go Loli, go Rover!
We just need leader of team freeman.
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>>2377334

its a girl, i knew i should have made her more feminine..
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>want to post a page full of circles.
>don't want to be put on tribunal.
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>>2377341
Freeman don't have a leader fool. They wouldn't be free if they did.
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>>2377345
>doesn't turn circles into spheres
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>>2377341
We'll have to wait for that, whoever posts whenever for the longest.
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>>2377345
draw some gestures
that'll make it look like you put in more time
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>>2377343
no, leave him like that, we love traps
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>>2377346
They need to die, then
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>>2377343
she's like 65:35 female to male
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>>2377339

glad you like it, do u think i should make it longer but shittier quality to progress the story or shorter but with more details art and story wise?
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Wait, who is the first?
If Loli or Rover gets eliminated, who will be next leader of there teams?
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>>2377354
focus on quality over quantity
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>>2377350
>>2377353

unfortunately that may fuck with the plot along the way , u'll see
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>>2377360
No.
Focus on quantity over quality.
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>>2377361
Who is the plot and why does the protagonist have sex with him?
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>>2377310
I wish I was Helio anon. I wish I was.
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>>2377365
>>2377360
Focus on both
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>>2377366

kek, its not just that. its much more interesting imo
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>>2377360
>>2377365
>>2377368

I can't focus on both
If I do that I won't be able to post daily updates and I kinda want to.
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>>2377370
is it assbabies
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>>2377374
You CAN focus on both you nigger. Just do your best as much as you can
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>>2377370
TRAP CONFIRMED TRAP CONFIRMED
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>>2377374
I think the story and writing are most important. The art is the icing on the cake and nobody wants to eat shit cake no matter how good the icing is
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>>2377374
you could post progress updates, that would allow you to focus on both
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>>2377375

eww no, why would i put niggers in my comic
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>>2377380
Yeah, wip's are ok
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>>2377370
Are the "infected" trannies?
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>>2377370
FUTANRI!! I knew it
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>140 replies
>one drawing posted
>no critique
>blatant shitposting

Why do these threads exist? Go to a fucking chatroom faggots.
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Helio's submission leads to an error page. LAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVAAAAAAA BAN HIM WHILE YOU CAN, HE'LL ONLY GET STRONGER IF YOU WAIT!
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>>2377388
This is the chatroom faggot
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>>2377380
but that would chop up the story a bit.
>>2377379
>>2377377
Yeah, I guess. I'll try to post more pages tomorrow
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>>2377384

kek, mabye (no)
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>>2377384
I world full of trannies. One anon is trying to prove to himself that he is not gay.....Will he make it???
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>>2377388
the post only lasts on the front page for half a day before we hit the bump limit then it's 2-4 days in the catalog. that's not too bad and it's a lot better than when we were making a new post every time we hit the bump limit. we had 6 posts up at once
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>>2377393
This place is quickly turning into DA. I think DA has chatrooms and some kind of group thing as insufferable faggots such as >>2377391 would fit there perfectly. Fuck off.
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>>2377401
ok
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>>2377391
You sure? It works for me. Imgur has been throwing errors because it's at capacity so maybe that's what you saw

http://imgur.com/FQuddt0
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>>2377388
yeah I think most people put more thought in the shit-posting in these threads than their hastily drawn submissions.
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>>2377401
You seem to know more about DA than i do so why don't you go back there faggot
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>>2377408
hey I pride myself on doing both to the best of my ability
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>>2377322
Have you seen this post on floobynooby?

http://floobynooby.blogspot.ca/2013/12/the-cinematography-of-incredibles-part-1.html

It's got a bunch of great references for scene setups in case you run out of ideas or if you're struggling with a panel. Ever since the Steve Huston videos were pulled from the NMA youtube channel I've been making copies of things I like so if you want a pdf version here you go

https://mega.nz/#F!tE9gzTYY!-gVM4fqGmr0DAKj0M2T35Q
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ive been through Loomis books,betty edwards books and gorge bridgmans books. Now im on Scott robertsons and im still garbage
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>>2376897
If I'm totally honest I'd agree with this. I'd love to be proven wrong but I can't believe how fast week one dropped below 100 so my faith is shaken.
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Anyone else feeling gains already?
Not so much skill wise for me yet but I painted more last month than I did in all last year. And more than that, while the first few days were like hopping around on different studies and sketches and feeling nervous and switching whenever stuff wasn't working, now I just choose something and stick with it, knowing that I'll be able to work through the bad parts until I'm happy enough to post it.

It feels good man, feels really really good. Not to mention makes me want to art more and more, even when I have a bad day I just can't wait to get started on tomorrow's better submission.
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>>2377422
They were weak, I may have missed the boat on week 1 but i'm here for the long haul
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>>2377418
Welcome to the club.
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>>2377418
Restart, repeat the old exercises till you die.
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>>2377424
I don't know about gains since am shit, but my productivity had massively increased, so i'm making more shit, and some of the shit looks a little bit less shit so YAY! i guess
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>>2377158

What Scott Robertson book? Is it good?
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>>2377418
You're probably not studying properly, the best way to work with those books is to also do real life observational drawings. Especially figure drawings (not from photos)
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>>2377422
I'll not be the last artist standing, I'm only here to beat Loomis, Lava and ohters on week one.

I'll leave when I destroy them. I'll be the week 1 winner.
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>>2377436
im a neet, good luck with that
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>>2377436
>>2377440
Rover?
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>>2377424
Yeah, I've been drawing a ton more than I used to. I used to make a finished piece maybe once every couple of months. Now it's becoming much less daunting, since by forcing myself I've realized that it's not actually that hard. I always sketched a lot but for some reason I felt like there was a barrier between that and finishing it. And last semester, I almost didn't draw at all because I felt that I was too busy. Now I'm forcing at least 30 minutes into my schedule every day, and spending several hours drawing on the weekends. It's great, and I don't really like this word but it's empowering. I'm so glad I happened to come to /ic/ when this was getting planned, I needed this external push to my motivation.
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>>2377434
http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-sketching-environments-imagination/dp/1933492732

It's one of the best available especially for humanbean who's drawing all those cars. It's the perfect fit for him
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Rover?
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>>2377457
Cease your memes.
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>>2377458
i see it in other posts. las is leaking
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>>2377461
a lot more people talking about loomis books aswell.
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>>2377458
This. It's okay to meme once in a while, but the majority of you are meme spouting like mad. This isn't fucking leddit.

>>2377461

It's probably one underage faggot.
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>>2377461
>>2377463
The fire rises
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>>2376897
>>2377422
>>2377436

I'm here to create a habit. Don't want to win, just to love draw like Jiro prepares sushi. I don't love to draw yet, I want to develop this feeling and habit to study hard.
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>>2377466
The best advice? Leave this board and just draw.
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>>2377466
i didn't love drawing when i started but i do now. if you stick with it it'll happen
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>>2377469
Shit advice
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>>2377466
>I don't love to draw yet.
I got some bad news for you. You need to love it from the start or you will burn out hard.
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>>2377475
This. I improved stupid fast because I loved the craft. Maybe not growing up or even when I was still in college, but before I started.
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>>2376899
>mfw it's 2011 and I now have a second chance not to catastrophically fuck up the last 5 years
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Rover?
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>>2377480
I wish I started in 2011
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>>2377483
I started 5 months ago, and have only really buckled down the last two months, the quest to git gud is real
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>>2377481
Nice meme
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>>2377483
I did, now look at me.
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>>2377487
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>>2377475
It's a difference between "I want to be able to draw well" and "I want to practice drawing". I had the former mindset for years and would burn out after a week because I suck. I had an epiphany a year ago, switched my mindset to the latter, and have been making reasonable progress since.
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>>2377158
>Nile was on that list too but he got eliminated
He was? shiet rip lil nigga
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>>2377495
He just stopped cause fuck us, basically.
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>>2377496
He said he was going to be the next frazetta or some shit kek
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>>2377487
And you are?????
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>>2377417
Not the anon you're replying to, but holy shit that cinematography breakdown is marvelous. Thanks, Lava.
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>>2377486
This helmet is so cyberpunk.
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>>2377199
They already did sonic. Loads of people posted a one off fun submission in that first week. And then there's one faggot that never stopped.
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>>2377507
oh man I love forced memes
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How do you tell if you've got a low-effort warning?
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>>2377511
Lava goes to your house and spanks you in the ass
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>>2377509
I like to think that him posting sonic every day has nothing to do with that first challenge. That it's just saucy being saucy

>>2377511
That system isn't in place yet but when it is it'll be hard to miss
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>>2377510
It's not forced. Go to KnowYourMemeRover, Newfag
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>>2377507
I don't know if I want to draw her or fuck her. I hate you /ic/.
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>>2377524
why not both?
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http://imgur.com/QL2RBUA
dafuq m8?
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>>2377530
didn't wear a hard hat in a strictly hard hat area. osha warned her
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>>2377528
I got nothing
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I am having so much trouble drawing accurately in pencil, when i can somewhat draw accurate on my tablet.How do i properly transition?
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>>2377541
if your having trouble with pencil, your going to have a hell of a time with a tablet
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>>2377541
Use a pen

Dont use a pencil, use a cheap bic pen
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>>2377542
it wasn't like this before ;_;
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>>2377530
Head and hand is wrong so what. Rover is still better then you.
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>>2377542
lol there aint no Lazy Nezumi for drawing on paper. Getting good on paper = simple transition into digital.
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>>2377544
this helped me quite a bit.
http://drawabox.com/lesson/1
>>2377543
also this 1000x this
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>>2377549
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>>2377504
containercore
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>>2377555
>dubs trips
full house just check mated your ass, >>2377549
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>>2377555
nailed it with a fullhouse
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>>2376856
these newcomers giving up quickly
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>>2377543
you can draw with a crayon it doesn't matter, a pen is no better than a pencil. But I think hes talking about coordination/draftsmanship issues.
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>>2377563
I for one find that a pen puts you into a different mindset, since you cannot erase anything you don't bother being too careful and slow
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>>2377556
OMG Get book Keys and draw
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>>2377562
Good
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>>2377566
thats true, but people don't only use pencils for the ability to erase mistakes. you can use an eraser as a tool to draw with by flooding the paper with a value using graphite powder and pull shapes out with an eraser.

pic related.
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>>2377568
can you write this as a sentence?
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>>2377549
lol at the word "lazy" being right in the name of the tool. Digital art is the most forgiving of the mediums.
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>>2377418
git on my level fgt
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>tfw phone's face recognition recognizes the faces you've drawn
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>>2377595
m8
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>>2377595
that's an impressive collection of books that you never learned anything from there anon
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>tfw my pleasant face ends up smug
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>>2377595
you where saying?
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>>2377612
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>>2377612
>Art of War
>russian.secret.alien.races.book
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>>2377612

>art folder full of pirated stuff created in 2013
>still not God tier yet

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>2377612
so you must be the best artist in the world right?
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>>2377619
i enjoy visiting /x/
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>>2377595
>>2377606
>>2377612
Rover?
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>>2377622
of course.
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>>2377582
Charcoal is better for flooding and then erasing, imhotep
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>>2377612
>>2377606
>>2377620
I have stockholm syndrome for files, my book folder has 1006 books and I've read like 4 and a half
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>>2377629
forgot pic
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>>2377628
depends on the surface. Using vellum and graphite powder works for me, since it sticks to the smooth surface, charcoal would just fall off completely.
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10 MINUTES CMON
CMON CMON CMON CMON
HURRY THE FUCK UP TEAM 23:30
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>>2377640
Creo que ya nos conocemos. ¿Headake?
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3 more minutes to read the tears.
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time to start drawing my submission :^)
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>>2377530
>http://imgur.com/QL2RBUA
You think that is bad? I proud on that pic.
If you want to shitpost this is bad.
http://imgur.com/K9RiK9b

But one day I will be good for my goals.
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1 eliminated. 7 tokens used. The fewest ever eliminated
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>>2377645
Still the first.....
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>>2377606
>super hot sex pdf
Hey uh mind sharing that PDF? A friend needs it.
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>>2377649
Plateau is real
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>Someone you were following gave up

It's a bad feel
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>>2377649
Oh and the person that was eliminated was a participant in challenge #3 and #4. This is the first week nobody has been eliminated from #1
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>>2377654
and the only one who gave up it seems
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>>2377649
>7 tokens
Okay tomorrow is massacre time
>>2377656
>This is the first week nobody has been eliminated from #1
damn
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>>2377649
>7 tokens
>not even lasting a month before fucking up
Are you even serious about winning this?
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>>2377649
>>2377656
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only hobbyists use tokens.
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>>2377418
I've done the same studies like a hundred times over just from two books. You'll get there anon, keep repeating and make sure you learn something new every time.
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>>2377649
>>2377656
of the 183 anons that joined week #1, only 94 are left to witness the plateau
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Lava can we get a graph showing the rate of ellimination of LAS #1 over time?

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life
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Wasn't a new challenge suppose to start today or is it the same ch
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Lava you call that 30 min drawing?
You are setting a bad example.
I'm bad but my pic took 7 hours to finish and I have job,
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>>2377645
You really want to see shit? This is one of my submissions: http://imgur.com/a/cdCgo

That is bad art, anon.
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>>2377663
Y-yeah only casuals use their tokens r-right guys
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Why should I join this if I could just draw every day for myself without having to upload it to some site with a deadline?
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I fucked up this time.

>drawing in my sketchbook
>forgot about the time
>looked at the clock and it was 23:55
>no scanner, so have to take a picture with the phone
>the phone is dead
>takes a fucking eternity to load, about 2 minutes in real time
>finally take a picture and crop it
>23:57
>imgur resists to cooperate
>23:59
>pic almost done uploading...
>00:00

what I'm trying to say is fuck the 23:30 club, shit's too dangerous. The drawing for today wasn't that good anyways..
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>>2377670
Well you were trying construction and din't work.
Bad days and good days anon.
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>>2377674
>not wanting an arbitrary title
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>>2377669
I really struggle with the top half of the body. If you look through my tumblr you'll see that the last 2 weeks have been studies of the lower half and I started with the bottom because the top half is so intimidating. It doesn't look like much but what I posted took me 45 minutes if you include the half dozen that were garbage and I erased.

Also today was the first time since I started this thing that I put pencil to paper and did nondigital art. I filled out 7 pages in my sketchbook so I don't feel too bad about not posting a lot.

I lied I still feel bad
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>>2377670
shitty submission competition? check it: http://i.imgur.com/OOiyK8R.jpg?1
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>>2377674
sounds like somebody doesn't have what it takes to be the last autist standing
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>>2377674
Why not?
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>>2377674
are you though? are you doing that already? without fail? putting effort into it every day?

you are? oh, good for you! this is for the less self-motivated fucks who need some outside acknowledgement and/or motivation beyond "git gud"... and for anyone else who wants the equivalent of a "you tried" sticker.
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>>2377668
new challenges happen at the end of friday, we're in the middle of the challenge week #4
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>>2377680
sexy banana and apples
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>>2377679
If some of us were to offer you constructive criticism, would you be interested and where would you like it posted? You've done a lot for us lava you aught to at least get something back
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>>2377674
its a competition dumbass.
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>>2377679
I'm just fucking with you:)
You are the best.
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>>2377687
do it right here you quintuple nigga
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>>2377687
Can you offer it to me???
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>>2377688
A competition has a winner by definition
but LAS never ends
It's not a competition
It's a wild ride
LavaFlake's wild ride
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>>2377689
no you weren't. I commend you for speaking your mind.
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fibonacci for the love of god please fix this
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>>2377693
it also has losers, one of those was added to the list today. It is a competition, everything in life is a competition you beta cuck.
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>>2377695
LAS will probably finish before he's done with that
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>>2377697
fuck off normie
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>>2377672
>>2377330
Nice try baiting the shit out of me to lose my token. You nearly had me too, check the last timestamps.
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>>2377672
You're going down Lava!!
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Am I able to join today?
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>>2377695
Wait, why he is he not banned? It took him 6 days and 6 posts to draw this???
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>>2377697
I want a list of everybody that has LOST thus far, and their weakest entry next to their LOSER name.
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>>2377705
His time will come when the Inquisition gets implemented
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>>2377694
Nobody puts Rover in the corner.
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>>2377710
Yes, he will pay.....
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>>2377704
Yep you can join anytime

>>2377705
It's not unreasonable to say he spent 3 hours on that, right? That's 6 days of posts right there. I do feel like he's milking that drawing but as long as he's making progress I don't feel like I should intervene. When the tribunal is in place you guys can determine if he should receive a low effort warning

>>2377687
I generally don't ask for help or for critiques unless I'm "stuck," if you know what I mean. If I'm making the same mistake every day then yeah shit all over me I don't mind at all. Like I was called out for my forearms and hips and the people who did it were 100% right about it but at the same time I hadn't studied those parts of the body yet.

I don't want to come off as one of those guys who receive criticism and say "NO I KNOW TRUST ME I KNOW" because if you know then why are you making the same mistakes over and over, right? In my case it's because I haven't studied it yet. It's probably better to keep it out of the thread so if you do want to talk shit and be wrong about my perfect art dm me on twitter, send me a message on tumblr or send an email to the address in the faq
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>>2377672
After you are eliminated you wil pay for hosting,
r-right?
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>>2377687
>>2377715
I think the best way to go about it would be to assume that all posts are up for critique
This is /ic/, we all came here to improve our skills
If there's something wrong with our image it should be important for someone to point it out
This is no place for cuddling
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> apartment internet inexplicably shuts off from 23:30 - 00:30
> this probably would've fucked over a lesser man

Good thing I make a habit of submitting early.
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>>2377676
I guess you're right...I just always feel outclassed when I submit my art. There are these great artists submitting great stuff and I'm submitting garbage. It hurts man.
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>>2377475
I'm making progress, but I don't love it to make my life yet. I think I'll find this love surviving the hard start.
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>>2377719
I agree with this
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>>2377720
You don't understand team 2330. It's not about winning, it's about risking
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>>2377725
A Forza can never understand.
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>>2377670
>>2377680
Get down to my level.
http://i.imgur.com/CPnKslm.jpg
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>>2377715
He should receive a low effort warning, and ban/ or his token should be removed.

This is skill and game competition.
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>>2377730
You can run but you can't hide
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>>2377730
>http://i.imgur.com/CPnKslm.jpg
they look like molten hot wheels abomination lol they'e cute...check em.
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>>2377721
So what?
Do you have goal?
Do you love drawing?
Then keep your goal in focus and keep drawing.

And these great artists have ther good days and bad days.
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>>2377670
>>2377680
>>2377730
I like to spin it positively, if you keep practicing and improving you can look back at your previous submissions from a year ago and see a real noticeable improvement, which'd be pretty motivating
>>
Do I need to submit realistic drawings taught to me by the great teacher Loomis if I join this?
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>>2377745
Don't worry, we have our own Loomis, and he is not that great.
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>>2377721
stop being a bitch and welcome to the club, you aint special, get over yourself.
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>>2377738
I would love to have drink with you Rover.

You don't give fuck.
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>>2377745
see the replies to >>2376916
>>
Hey guys can someone redline my submissions? Or give critique
Please
I'm Santichasca
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>>2377745

Draw anime if you want more (You)'s.
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>>2377745
no just 30 minutes worth of work. no skill barrier for you.
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>>2377745
http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/submissions.php
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>>2377629
Don't think you know what stockholm syndrome is family.
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>>2377745
Wat is Loomis?
>>
Rover?
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>>2377666
I second satan.
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>>2377764
Yes!??!

I don't get this meme.

Well, I'm going to sleep so good night LAS.
>>
>>2377762
Rover?
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If Rover gets eliminated will people stop asking for Rover?
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>>2377777
people or that same Anon who is trying to force the meme?
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>>2377719
Yeah I agree. The only downside is that if you have people randomly posting critiques there's no way to know if the person will see them, especially if the post is buried on page 8 or something. Like I saw two or three people tell humanbean to check out scott robertson's book

I'd rather encourage people to request critiques but there's nothing wrong with random ones either. I mentioned people sending critiques outside the thread for me because running the site means extra attention and i'd rather keep that out of the LAS threads. That's why I rarely use the tripcode unless I need to

>>2377666
Right now there's no way to show that but it'll be possible after the update because of changes in how everything's tracked. I can add it on to the active challenges page along with active participants, tokens used, etc

>>2377754
It'd be the blind leading the blind if I tried to red line your submissions
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>>2377777
quints wasted on questioning the leader of team forza
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>>2377781
Wait you think that Rover is awake 27-7 memeing Rover? on /ic/?
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>>2377787
kek
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>>2377777
are you kidding? he will become legendary.
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>>2377777
All those sevens mean Rover is gonna have a lot of luck.
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>>2377649
The war of attrition begins.
>>
whos the animu king of LAS
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>>2377680
>at least 30 minutes
>tfw this would have taken me 3 hours
>>
Loomis, you've got to kill Rover, it's the only way to stop the madness.
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>>2377715
>When the tribunal is in place you guys can determine if he should receive a low effort warning
Is this going to be some survivor shit in where one smart guy slowly manipulates others to get rid of the competition through the voting system? Seems a bit scary the way you worded it.
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>>2377807

Rover
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>>2377811

You mean let them take each other out.
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>>2377815
Rover Daikamura when
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>>2377818
What? Game? I don't get it?
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>>2377814
Nah I'm not worried. It'll require an overwhelming majority vote and the only people who can vote are the ones who've submitted for at least 7 days in a row and are participating in a challenge
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>>2377820
Pillows
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>>2377825

Good band.
>>
>>2377822
How exactly will it work? One guy flags a user for low effort and then they go up for voting on the tribunal page? Will the voting end when a certain period of time has passed, or when a certain number of votes have accrued?
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>>2377822
>It'll require an overwhelming majority vote
That's a relief. Seems pretty solid then. I just fear a little for the anon's who aren't that good yet and they, say spend 30 minutes on something small but they really put lot of thought into their line placement. I know other newfriends to drawing might see that as low effort and I do want to see newfriends improve from this.
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>>2377828
that flcl ost is unfuckwitalble tbph fampai
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>>2377831
Yeah that question about "but I'm not very good what if people flag my shitty posts as low effort?" gets asked a lot and I dunno, I think people are pretty good at determining who's being lazy and who's bad. Either way in the beginning reported post will be reviewed before being sent off with the tribunal (same with the tribunal votes) and once there's a good sample size thresholds will be set and then it can be automated
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>>2377841
No, we know what is 30 min. of drawing or beginners drawing but guys like fibonacci are milking wip's
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>>2377841
And you must put some safeguard against LE shitposting.
>>
How do I join the less awesome last artist standing #5?
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>>2377849
>draw for 30 minutes
>submit
>keep submitting forever
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Rover?
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>>2377841
Even then, do you think people would vote someone out for the sake of getting another guy out of the contest? When you give some power to people, they tend to abuse it, if not way later down the line when they get desperate.
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>>2377856
Lava keeps saying it would take a very large majority. I don't think enough people would get behind one person's hate boner or troll attempt for it to go through.
>>
>>2377856
>>2377857
This. Also, lava will be able to tell who votes and will probably ultimately have the final say in the matter, I assume. If someone in the contest who's clearly good enough to see if someone is putting in the effort or not votes a person out when the person obviously put in the work, then he's going to make himself look like an asshole.
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>>2377857
So we not gonna vote anybody of the contest?
Wtf????
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>>2377862
Lava should put leaders Loli and Rover as judges.
So Lava, Loli, Rover are judges.
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Literally spent 5 hours drawing lines, s c curves, and ellipses. when do start getting good?
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>>2377869
6 to 12 months from now
>>
I lost my token. I won't survive 30 days without it.
>tfw this is your 3rd failure to submit, and every time has been on a day you drew early on the day
Fuck everything! I'm so angry!

Can we get challenges when we can earn an extra token? I just wanted to make it to a month! I'll never do lava any justice
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>>2377872
I don't mind this idea, why won't you survive 30 days?
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>>2377871
What is the artistic equivalent to steroids?
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>>2377879
photobashing, tracing
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>>2377879
Adarall
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>>2377881
>tracing
It is not bad if you are using it to learn.
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>>2377856
>>2377841
>>2377857
>>2377868
I can already see the final days of LAS, just drawing everyday was never enough. People wont drop out because they couldn't manage, it'll all be the tribunal. It's not even a question of if you should vote someone out, it's a question of who. Alliances will form, the 23:30s and forza will both try and win over the freemen to get the majority vote. There will be backstabbing and betrayal, vote selling and teaming up to get rid of people regardless of their submission quality.

20 years later the last few wont be able to trust each other because of all the bloodshed, it will be a stalemate of circular voting and scheming that will bleed into the real lives of what will then be the most successful artists in the world. Standing at the top of the art industry with legions of skeletons in their closets.
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>>2377881
>tracing
Nah, atleast roids give you real muscle. Tracing is all fake.
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>>2377878
I'd like if other people liked the idea, I'm not taking about being able to farm tokens but maybe to at least earn one or two extra could be cool

I'm shit at remembering to upload things before midnight so I know I'll never make our to a full month, it's probably not a valid excuse but I have a learning disability which means numbers change around in front of my eyes and in my head; 12pm becomes 1.20pm etc or even 12th (date).
I need to stick up posters saying ROVER in every room because when I set an alarm it means nothing.
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>>2377888
Freeman an forza alliance.
23:30 is too risky for freeman.

VIVA FORZA!!!!!
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>>2377901
>I need to stick up posters saying ROVER in every room because when I set an alarm it means nothing
Top kek
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>>2377901
I would like to see that.
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>>2377901

I don't know about extra tokens, but I proposed a "preserved token" achievement that's displayed on your user page.
You get a preserved token every month you don't use your token (time doesn't count if you've lost it). They are useless outside of being an arbitrary number indicating your dick size. Or, maybe you can trade them in to Lavaflake for sexual favors.
Alternatively, we could have a token achievement, where your month's token BECOMES the trophy. Like, "FEBRUARY 2016 TOKEN". It's like stamp collecting.
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>>2377901
>>I need to stick up posters saying ROVER in every room because when I set an alarm it means nothing.
kek
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>>2377913
That's a really nice idea, but definitely hard mode. It could be fun if a submission that made lava laugh was cropped into those tokens or something, but I'd jealously refer to them as neet medals and never have one .
What I want is a way to earn back my lost token, two slip ups each month doesn't mean someone is undedicated, I'll draw all the dragon dicks you want 28 days a month!
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>>2377913
hey, that's a pretty fun idea

>tfw I've already wasted my token
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>>2377921

Alright, anon.
You have 24 hours starting now to post your best dragon dick in this or the next thread. Quote this post when you do so. Prove your dedication.
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leo is that sonic in a random forest?
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>>2377945
the spirit of sonic of course
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>>2377948
poetic. 9/10 from me.
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>>2377866
It's not that we won't vote people out, it's that one person won't be able to just go around false-flagging people trying to get them eliminated for no reason. If anyone will be eliminated for low effort, it'll be a community decision.
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Goddamn it, I'm so tired of getting really close to something good and fucking it all up. I swear to FUCK.
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>>2378004
Don't swear to fuck swear to draw so you'll dr
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I uploaded a link, forgot it was NSFW, and it won't let me update it as NSFW. It says that the URL I submitted has already been used.
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>>2378043
Update with another random URL then update again with the old one.
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>>2378020
I already have sworn to draw. I just wish I was better at it.
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>>2378055
>tfw everyone is slowly improving except me
>tfw people will slowly stop posting when they go pro
>I'll be the last artist standing because everyone will get good enough to leave
>tfw I'll always be shit
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> http://i.imgur.com/gAkTzRh.png

halthalthalt you are really pushing the limit on what constitutes 30 minutes
this is GeraTech tier
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>>2376995
>>2376996
Thank you both for the advice, it's helpful. I think I'm too scared to go and copy others to learn myself, I should probably let go of that stigma a bit so I can come up with something myself.
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I'm legitimately considering drawing Sonic characters and uploading that as my las submission instead of the thing I've spent a full day working on because I feel I would be less embarrassed. Where did it all go so wrong?
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>draw something all day
>realize i'll post 23:30 and no one will see it
>do a bunch of shit sketches to fit the deadline
>forza my masterpiece the next day

This system is flawed
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>>2378094
post your work
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>>2378196
not if you're team forza B)
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>>2378191
If beginners become afraid to show their flaws, other beginners will be less likely to post their own work. Come on, do it for your compatriots.

>>2378196
You still did some extra sketches that you wouldn't have, even if they're shit. You drew more, that's the purpose.
The only real flaw is when people are just posting old stuff but since it's just wasting their own time without upping their gains and there's no real prize, it's not much of a problem.
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>>2378191
Don't be embarrassed! Rover is fucking terrible but still managed to build a large loyal fanbase.
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>>2378212
>>2378216
I'll think about it. I'm setting it aside for now and I'll look at it tomorrow. I can't believe I wasted so much time noodling this shit instead of doing something productive, fuck.
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>>2378232
Don't worry. Even if it's shit it's just another step on the staircase to gitting gud.
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>>2378242
Yeah, one more step. I feel like I'm making so much progress. I'm going to bed, maybe it'll be better in the morning.
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You posted that already, Ryder.
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HumanBean, are you drawing hot wheels or something?
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>>2378268
he added shoes, doubt they took 30 minutes
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Just told someone about LAS because it was on topic and I'm an idiot, completely forgot it's full of nsfw sonic and dragon assholes, now I have to track them down and somehow warn them in advance
Thanks guys
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>>2378293
its already too late you have no choice but to kill them
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>>2378216
Rover?
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>friend dropped his wacom pen 3' and it broke
>be poorfag and can't afford a new pen
>mfw drop my pen and it falls 2 inches to the top of my desk and i have a mini panic attack
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>tfw
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>>2378323
Even my most uninteresting trash gets 20 views, presumably just from people checking that I put in the required time.
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>>2378323
maybe it hasn't updated yet? i check them all
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>>2377417

7 here, thanks for that, will use it for today's chapter
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2study please use something else than Photobuckit for the love of Loomis
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>>2378374
>he starts using a more obscure image host
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>>2378374
What's wrong with photobucket?
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>>2378376
pomf.cat masterrace
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>>2378282
Pls no bully
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Are we still doing critique in these threads?

I'm suffering, I don't know how to continue from here.
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>>2378407
if you want a critique you should at least include your name too
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>>2378293
Kek, I mentioned it to someone the other day and avoided saying the actual name of the place. I did have to mention /ic/, but thankfully they didn't get all upset about 4chan.

Man, this post makes me sound like a huge normie. I promise I don't typically do this sort of thing.
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>>2378411
demonicpen
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>>2378407
You need to consider the skeleton, especially in the legs. In real birds they often look like little sticks jutting out, but that's because the rest of the leg is within the body. So the leg will be coming out at an angle, because there's a bend in the ankle right around the belly. Sometimes you'll see the joint and sometimes you won't, depends on how plump the bird is and the pose it's in. And your feathers curve, but they should be pretty rigid. Even the little body-covering ones are more like soft scales than locks of fur. Your wing looks like sheets of cloth, but the long primary feathers jut our rigidly, usually in line with the tail. The eye should be rounder. And the breast looks a bit low. Look at photos of perched birds, and diagrams of skeletons and wings, it'll help a lot.

And I know the tree is unfinished, but some pointers on that too: top off any nubs with buds if there's no leaves. And trees will have either opposite or alternate twig arrangement (look it up), but you have one set of opposite twigs here and higher up is one lone twig as if it's alternate. Just a nitpick but I'm a botanyfag and couldn't let it go.
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Just finished watching Guilty Crown, Jesus, the asspulls where horrible
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>>2378416
not him, but nice tips
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>>2378416
thanks a ton, ill try to finish this tomorrow when I have the time.
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>>2378413
I totally get it, I usually avoid anyone that openly talk about 4chan or use memes in person so I was very embarrassed to find myself accidentally talking about /ic/ to someone I'd just met.
Becoming what I hate.
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>>2378431
it's not like you were asking them if they had any rare pepes or something jesus. it takes like 3 seconds to explain that 4chan isn't as bad as its worst boards. that's like saying reddit is a home for pedophiles or tumblr is a hive of social justice
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>>2378323
>not being a No-Peek Purist
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>>2378417

Inori is a huge slut.
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>>2378450
>not uploading to a site that doesn't tell you your view count
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>>2378446
>it takes like 3 seconds to explain that 4chan isn't as bad as its worst boards. that's like saying reddit is a home for pedophiles or tumblr is a hive of social justice
Says you, I've lost count of how many times I've had a huge argument with my friends because they believe this place is nothing but a cesspool. It's not great but it's no worse than anywhere else online, especially fucking reddit. I've only been on reddit a handful of times and seen way worse shit than I've ever come across here, because I know to stay out of /b/ and shit. They've SHOWN me worse. They think it's a lawless place where people post cp and beastiality with no moderation. One said having an account on reddit is better because you can use settings to autohide and report and only see the subs you want, but you can do all of that here without an account so there's literally no difference. So fucking frustrating.
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>>2378459
It didn't show view counts when I started, that's not on me.
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>>2378462
imgur has always shown view counts, the las site doesn't
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>>2378460
sounds like you got dumb friends m8.
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>>2378464
I put all my submissions in a private album.
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>rover trying to win LAS
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>>2378491
>Rover?
>Rover?
>Rover?
>Rover?
>Rover?
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>>2378491
More like Rover standing aside while everyone else kills each other.
t. not rover
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>>2378466
They are dumb about that at least. Dumb in a few other ways too. They're good guys and good artists but man they piss me off sometimes. Once I was browsing the catalog while hanging out with them and there was some anime girl with a panty shot as the thread image for the alt style thread and they we like "see, I told you about that 4chan" and I was like wtf you fucking watch Kill la Kill which is nothing but constant panty shots. They tried to say she looked young but no, she looked exactly the same age range as one of those KlK bitches. Man, fuck it.
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>>2378513
that is some cognitive dissonance shit
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>>2378513

> stupid/pretentious artist friends

Man, you must be really forgiving, because I have absolutely no patience for twats like that.
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>>2378518
>>2378521
Fortunately it really only happens if 4chan comes up. For the most part they're really cool dudes it's just I don't get the weird gap in logic when it comes to comparing here with anywhere else. They regularly look up snuff gifs but they think this place is bad because there's one board that allows furries and I tried telling them a million times cp and beast aren't allowed here but they don't believe me. Apparently when they used to come here at all things were different, but I've been coming here since 2007 and it wasn't that bad then but I would still say in terms of modding it's only gotten cleaner. I don't know, they're stubborn but usually we get along fine.
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>>2378491
It looks more like Stannis.
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>>2378460
>>2378513
>>2378529
Why are you still friends with them? I'm serious. You just ranted about them quite a lot just now, I can tell you've been putting up with them for quite a while. They're supposed to be your friends so if they just end up frustrating and stressing you you might want to reevaluate your relationship with them.

I've been through similar stuff in the past and cutting ties was the best thing I did. Of course not everyone can handle solitude so I understand people who keep ties for that reason; personally with time I realized I was much happier alone.
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>>2378548
Some people need to learn how to get what they want, He's probably getting something out of their relationship. Even if its just companionship.
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>>2378548
>>2378549
It's gonna sound stupid but I'm still friends with them because fate intervened. I tried dropping them completely. Deleted them from facebook and tumblr and what have you. Didn't see or talk to them for 4 or so months. Then one day I ran into one of them in the unlikeliest of places. So I was pulled back in. What they've done for and have to offer for my growth as an artist outweighs my annoyance for some of their elitism. Besides, even I have to admit they are good people in general. I've always been the kind of person who gets really worked up over logical fallacies though so goddamn that one thing sticks in my craw.
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>>2378549
>Some people need to learn how to get what they want
That's well said.

>>2378553
I can understand the feeling. I think I was a bit too negative in my previous post anyway.

>>2378537
>implying Stannis is dead
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>>2378529
>look up snuff gifs
>complain about anime drawings
lol
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>>2378099
What if its actually geratech?
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>>2378191
Dont be a wuss i'm pretty bad and i'm still on the first aubmisions almost daily no one will call you bad m8.
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>>2378563
Yeah, I posted it after all. Nobody will notice anyway but I'm still disappointed in myself. I think I might be able to still make something interesting out of it but it's not going to be what I hoped for.
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>>2378584
You're overthinking it, I don't think anyone cares if someone posted something "bad". We're here to practice and learn. I've posted some seriously bad shits since LAS started but looking back it's just best to shrug it off now.
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>>2378590
Forgive me if it sounds arrogant but I'm not worried about what you guys think of it. I'm aiming to go professional so when I have things that fall far short of where I need to be, I get really disgusted. I didn't want to post it because I don't want to be reminded but it was the only thing I had drawn and since I wasted time I should've been using on other stuff I might as well get at least the las benefit for it.
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please don't flood my feed with garbage. Just drop out.
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>>2378600
FuckYou
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7 here.
chapter 2 of my comic is out!
i'd love to hear feedback.

I'm heading out tonight so I'll read and reply later.
enjoy reading
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>>2378553
>mfw my work buddy is from /b/
>mfw he shares all his memes
>mfw he has threads saved on his phone>
>mfw i'm drawing lolis
>mfw he shares his love for lolis with me
>mfw we spend the whole work shift joking around ad bane posting our co workers
>mfw we talk about cheese pizza all the time.
>mfw full autism exposure with no shame
shit i guess i got lucky
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>>2378618
ur a feg
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>>2378633
Ha, ha, ha!
Great post, friend!
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>>2378618
if you aint posting studies I dont give a fuck about you.
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>>2378191
I do comfy studies and painting as my submissions and then spend the rest of the day failing at imagination sketches and trying to learn new things. If you want to post a Sonic sketch erryday then do it man, just do both that and the difficult things in your own time. The harder something is the more you're learning from it.
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>>2378646
Yeah you have a good point. I think maybe I was pushing myself too hard and burnt myself out. I'm probably going to try your method, just do some anatomy studies and things like that, then take my time and space out the hard stuff. It's not realistic to spend one or even two days on something like I was trying to do, now that I think of it.
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>>2378196
>Not deliberately posting your work minutes before the deadline so no one will look at it

>>2378315
Get a grip.

>>2378416
These are good tips on the bird. As for the tree though I'd say where you put things compositionally is more important than the buds being more detailed. Like that branch behind the bird's head is badly placed in that it's too close to the beak, you don't want different objects to line up or it causes confusion for the eye. Also I'd move the main branch/trunk of it further away from the bird's head in general, you want your subject/focus to be nicely framed, not cramped in.
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>>2378628
Do you work at the autism factory?
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>>2378597
I feel the exact same way. But I don't think it's bad to be a bit more comfortable with failure. Not in the sense that you shouldn't want to be better but as in accepting it as a part of the process. I'm not even close to gud myself so I shouldn't be talking so I'll see myself out now..
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>>2378666
Full time job in /s4s/ creating dank memes.
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>>2378597
What's your username?
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>>2378686
>>>/s4s/4129217
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>>2378099
Ban!!!!!
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>>2378666
nah i work at a place that does stuff. its actually great since he is the only young kid in the whole place.
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>>2378693
Rover?
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>>2378600
ill start drawing more fat girls from now on.
>capcha is candy
Hell yeah
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>>2378446
Original anon you replied to here but yeah, it's not always that simple. I've never had a problem with a friend but a group of classmates once saw me on 4chan and took that to mean I was into "cartoon sex". But not even in a bullying way, they just genuinely believed it was my jam and would constantly ask me things out of curiosity in public no matter how much I told them they were wrong.
A few sjw types really do believe every board is r9k/pol, too. You don't want that associated with you.
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>>2378618
I'm having trouble figuring out what's going on. Last thing I remember from yesterday was that she had kicked down a door and then it ended on a cliffhanger with her being started. Now this comic starts with like a robot or something and then she crashes through a hole in the wall? Then there's an exposition dump and I don't have a clue what's going on and it's hard to care
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>>2378668
I know that's true, you can't improve without failing. It just gets hard to stay patient.
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>>2378727
He's pulling the non linear writing card already
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Is there a site where I can upload a picture and have a comment section so people can critique my submission or should I just stick with imgur?
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>>2378784

Why not just post it on /ic/ and have people tell you it's shit?
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>>2378784
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>>2378795
kek
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>>2378773
needs a prologue
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>>2378716
Don't just draw one kind of body or you'll fuck up your anatomy m8.
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Is this considered low effort?
I'm legitimately proud of it.
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>>2378859
then why did you scribble all over it?
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>>2378859

no, but watch the line quality dude
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>>2378861
That's how I do the base of a body
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Shitposting
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Just over an hour remaining today boys.
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I have perfected my 23:30 routine and now I can remain calm in the face of danger.
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>>2378909
inb4 lava takes site offline for more patches, and does it from 23:30 till 00:30

Do it lava
Kill team forza AND 2300
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Nice perspective stuff Gaijin, keep at it. Necks are a pain, but for the nose/eye thing I suggest finding the keystone part of the nose bridge each time. Also really helps for getting a likeness in portraits if you get between the eyes just right.
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>>2378913
kill yourself for a start
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>>2378861
nice.
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honey I fucked the kids
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>>2378913
forza posted yesterday, that cant die they are actually time travelers. "back to the Rover 2: 1.25 loomiwatts?!" check em
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>>2378727

damn, thats what i get for trying to condense a big story in 4 chapters. I can write down the story if u guys want to, this comic thing is exausting anyways.
Or I can make a prologue and that will explain all the shit very easily!
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>>2378814

do u want chapter 3 to be a prologue?
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>>2377096
>>2377097
>>2377098
>>2377130
because i have enough discipline to make myself draw for 6 hours every day. I not need a platform to brag to others about it.
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>>2378939
are you ok dude?
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>>2378930
Back to the future Rover memes?
When las, when???
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>>2378941
i'm lonely sometimes, but i'm fine. i'll get myself a girlfriend this spring and she will double as my model, i'll draw her endlessly, document her every detail, every crease of the skin. i'll embed her in my animations, my work and she will love it, but slowly tiring out and finally she will leave me because i will be too caught up in all of my work and the relationship was never meant to be long because of my plans on studying in london in a year. thanks for asking.
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>>2378945
sounds like a plan, godspeed you crazy diamond.
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>>2378939
you're not dumb enough to post your own shit we both know that so stop baiting for other peoples dicks asshole.
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>>2378945

what the fuck dude you are living in a delusion, nice. mabye its fun for people to live in their fantasy, but when your fantasy is romanticizing despair and loss its bad for you.

oh and kill urself
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>>2378953
you win some you lose some, buddy. it's what life is about, and which part is a delusion? i already flew to london in mid-january to check out the university i wanted to attend during open days. i am handsome and charismatic enough to get a girlfriend. i fail to see the point in what you say. i don't overrate some feelings over others. and i don't live in delusions that i can't do something. i've been lucky enough in life to not be lucky. that's why i'll crack my skull until i make it.
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oh my god larrex i got an erection from those rpg items
it was a very good idea to follow you
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>imgur is over capacity

HELP
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>>2378962
they weren't really that good :/
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>>2378958
>i am handsome and charismatic enough to get a girlfriend.
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>>2378966
>mfw
I can't use a different service, I gotta see them views.
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>>2378968

the delusion is the way you speak about yourself and your emotions. the delusion is that you try to plan everything and plan it to be miserable - your gf leaving u after u romantically study her body or some shit.
pls anon i have lived through some of these delusions, even worse ones than yours
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>>2378968
not elliotrodger.jpg step up ur meme game
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>>2378973
meant to quote
>>2378958
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>>2378971
tumblr with a view counter? thats what i do...thats actually really pathetic...hahaha
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>>2378980
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah mods i give you permission to bann me. hahahaha
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>tfw you try to make your page less of a cluttered piece of shit but end up doodling inane things and drawing circles over them when you mess up
Every time.
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>>2378966
Is this shit serious? Damn it. I guess I'm heading to photobucket. I also guess that means I'll be a Freeman instead of a Forman today.
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>>2378988
i don't get this logic, if your drawing shit how can you just fill it up with circles? do you actually feel that filling up a page is work? c'mon man just use a different page, i used to upload the circle and line drawings i used to do to warm up and simply stopped showing that you can do the same.
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>>2378988
Loomis?
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>Someone you're following hasn't submitted in days

Don't give up you fucker
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>>2378994
Nope, clutter doesn't actually bother me.
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https://youtu.be/luRaKw4-Osk

Hey guys, my friends released this today, I did the beginning animation.

Just wanted to share because they worked very hard on it.
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>>2378966
>>2378990
Imgur's back up
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> beginner
> reading Force: Life Drawing
> absolutely beautiful figures
> understand what I need to do
> fuck its hard
> can't execute anything correctly, everything looks like shit

kill me
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poor 7 gets no attention
> feelsbadman.jpg
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>>2378997
kill yourself
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>>2379000
but you got trips so you've got that going for you
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>>2378999
Trips of truth to the rescue. Thank you.
>>2378997
Why is Stamper so hot.
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>>2379001

i dont even get trips to get check'd
...
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>>2378999
Imgur's is shit.
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>7 days doing gestures
>zero improvement

Wake me up inside
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>>2379010
> open a loomis book and instantly get the skill of leonardo da vinci pizza pie cancer
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Guess it's time to start working on my submission
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>>2379013

holy shit anon thanks for that usefull info
>b-blog?
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>>2379013
Enjoy your low effort warning
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>>2379014
this is exactly what i wanted to prevent by responding to him, Fuck you.
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>>2379015
You'll never catch me :^)
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>>2379004
Why? Then I would lose.
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>>2378993
No, I meant that I end up furiously drawing shit over my failed doodles. I'm just really tired, couldn't articulate myself clearly.
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>>2379016

im retarded, what did u want to prevent? back and forth replying or sth?
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>find shitty drawing contest
>some of the entries look like theyre drawn by 3 year olds
>submit 15 minutes of work, looks like high school garbage
>submission never gets approved, worst junk has been approved since
it hurts
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>>2379021
less than 10 mins left when that was posted, culling the weak.
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5 eliminated
5 tokens used
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only 1 week #1 guy got eliminated in that bunch?
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>>2378995
say his name you cuck!
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>>2379028
looks like it yeah
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>>2379026
holy nuggets thats serious ellimination
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>>2379023
>submission never gets approved
what?
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how close to the deadline were Loli and chk?
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>>2378997
hey! that was you?!..its cute hope you got some good money from it...you fucker you BETTER have asked for a good price.
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>>2379026

lava, cancer comic 7 guy here
r8 cancer comic pls

if u liek i do a prologue chapter tomorrow
if not i go back to other drawings

rly not worth 2+ hrs if no1 reads my cancer
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>>2379035
it's a fanart contest where you submit it to them and if they approve it it goes up on their site and you get a participation reward
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>93 remain in LAS #1
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GIVE UP ALREADY YOU FAGGOTS
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>>2379038
kill yourself
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Thank god there is no tribunal/report/ low effort warning yet
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>>2379038
Oh, so I'm no one?
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suzuka you draw the derpiest anime girls!
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>>2379045

hello friend, how do u like the comic?
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>>2379020
do you have a schedule? if so have 1 hour brake between subjects and have two days where you only draw what you like. i like animals.
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>>2379026
falling like flies.
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>>2379038
I read your cancer though. It's nice but I honestly couldn't follow the second one too well either.
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>>2379045
>>2379052


readers, noice! ill do a prologue tomorrow so u get the story,
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>>2379054
see >>2379043
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>>2378958
>>2378945
>>2378939
you are so retarded, pls just kill yourself. disappear from this thread. you're a compulsive liar and i hate your kind.
>draws for 6 hours every day
>submits old shit
sure, buddy.
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>>2379041
Never
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>>2379047
Like some anons mentioned, couldn't really tell what happened in chapter two. desu after that suspenseful end in chapter one, I was expecting some action.

Also, try not to condense it too much
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>>2379038
you are annoying. stop trying to stand out.
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jesus Christ rover do you actually study anatomy? suzuka you want to be tribunal bait?
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>>2379055

haters/trolls r fine too m8
boosts muh ego
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>>2379046
>draw
chicken scratch
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>>2379036
Can't speak for chk but I went on 2 seconds.
I posted on dead 0 the day before though just to get it out of my system. Never again too stressful.
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>>2379061
No, not yet.
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>>2379060

i find doing comics interesting
i want to recieve critiques so i get better
if i get better ppl will enjoy it
rly not trying to stand out just want to know ways i can improve
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>>2379061
Why is there something wrong?
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>>2379061

Rover should stick to Peter Han and FWAP for now tbqh.
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>>2379066
>critiques
ayy lmao
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>>2379046
Is that good or bad?

>>2379061
Eh? Tribunal bait?

>>2379063
My lines aren't that bad
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>>2379069
Yes but first keys and E.Olson.
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>>2379059
got it anon, prologue should clear it up, ill try to make the story shorter i think i can finish it in a week or 2.
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>>2379038
>second image
Took me a while to realize that thing in the center wasn't the head of a giant robot cyclops
>third image
i don't understand what the first panel has to do with anything
>fourth image
you said "you know" twice. also it looks like the camera is too zoomed in in every panel. i had to read it 3 times to understand that she's exploring a tunnel system or something and mapping it out on the wall. i wouldn't have known that if you hadn't asked me to r8 (even when I read through it earlier today when you posted it)
>fifth image
you said cmon twice, the dude's food mood swing is weird and what's up with the F P frame?

You need to do something about the dialogue and the camera work. i'm honestly only reading it because it's a las submission (and the way you setup your panels makes it look like it's the blair witch project of web comics)
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>>2379069
i feel like 90% of the people here (myself included) need to do this
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>>2379079
Lava, Dragon Dick Badge when man,when????
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>>2379067
he's right you lack any kind of construction on the drawing m8 and your lines have so much noise on them its clear you are struggling.
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>>2379069
>>2379082
What is FWAP????
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>>2379086
Fun with a Pencil
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>>2379086
Fun With A Penis
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>>2379086
fun with a pencil
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>>2379084
It's hard to draw with a paw.
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>>2379066
i also want to do comics someday so i'm trying to study composition and perspective. too afraid to show or even start it, you could always try the "choose your own adventure" style and since you will keep getting input and you will find it motivating plus you will still learn, i suggest getting (or pirating argg) "framed ink" on amazon its bretty goob
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>had to submit something really bad

all part of the journey I suppose
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>>2379093
if you want to do comics then do a comic while you learn to get good. turn your las submissions into a 30 minute daily comic. if you wait until you get good to start your comic then you may never start. and if you do get good then you'll be a good artist but a shitty comic artist
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>>2379088
Post the book.
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>>2379079

Appreciate the comment lava. Ill submit a couple more daily chaptera, but ill move to weekly or monthly updates if the daily ones are shit. My first ever comic so basically everything is shit. I thought making a conversation sound natural would be ez kek.
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>>2379100
i'll try...also go to learn some HTML man i want to make a cool site some day with frat noises
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>>2379093
7 here, I was and still am quite anxious posting these comics, but it really really is better if you do so as well. if you want to do something just do it, start small and imrove
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>>2379100
this makes sense. maybe Ill start a comic thing too.
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>>2379103
No worries man, >>2379100 is right; now is as good a time as any to be bad and it's the first step to being sorta good at something
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>>2379108
>>2379100
thank you
i'll make it some sort of side project, like 2 panels a day after studies and post a 5 panel thing a week.
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>>2379112
who is this old faggot? i want to kill him.
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>>2379098
you're not alone in this feeling
I feel a twinge of guilt if I work on something and I know it looks awful but one day you'll look back and be glad you could submit your worst, because your new worst will be a lot better
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>Anon313 always posts some sick fantasy shit right after I post my terrible figure studies

I've found my rival.
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>>2379111
>tfw he actually gave some of the most helpful advice when I was down on myself in starting to learn to draw
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>>2379116
he is who we will all become, a lonely artist with monster gains who never had social skills and must now reflects on life and ask themselves..." I can draw my waifu, but can she draw me?" and our faithful partner who we will name Rover as a reminder of the closest we ever got to making friends will answer "I dont know man I'm a fucking dog".
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>>2379121
kinda wish he would finish his drawings, reminds of that guy with the Jaime Jones brushes.
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>>2379128
Nice try. I see you lads have upped your game. If you think hitting my feels like this will make me question my artistic endeavors and drop out from LAS you're dead wrong famillion. I'll be grinding the fundies till my last breath.
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>>2379121
Study ankles and knees Steak
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>>2379121

You're 100 years too early son.
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>>2378958
Is this a joke on the London meme or do you think goldsmiths / St M is actually going to change your life?
I mean, if you're endlessly rich then sure. But that's off topic, let's talk about rover.
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>>2379128
I have a healthy social life and actually have to turn down pussy, on top of that I make huge gains without much effort.
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>>2379036
Loli: 23:59:57
Chk: 29:59:58
new record, 1 second off the deadline
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>>2379098
same. had exam and a quiz today, only came home 2 hours before deadline. REALLY didn't feel like doing it.
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>>2379131
you will not be human by the end, this is not a game you will lose all social skills, i personally dont care for normies since they are hypocrites but someday you will want some company no? only waifu will be there for us.
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>>2379136
....then I wake up
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>>2379137
Jesus christ, does it still accept submissions exactly at 23:59:59? Does it keep track of milliseconds?
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>>2379132

thanks chief
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>>2379141
how close to the edge can the 23:30 club go
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>>2379139
I love my hobbies though. Drawing the most. I'm fucked socially anyways. See you at the end.
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>>2379141
Yes it accepts submissions up until 23:59:59 and no it doesn't keep track of ms but it doesn't keep track of the order so if multiple people submit on the same second it will know who came first
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>>2379145
Rover?
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>>2379137
>new record
Just wait, I'll push it till the very last second next time.
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>>2379139
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>>2379147
We're all Rover anon.
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>>2379148
wait, so are you guys trying to post first or be the very last one posting? Im new here.
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>>2379144
>over time, the 23:30 club dies out because they took their adrenaline trips too far
I can't wait.
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>>2379145
make he drawings of your waifu as masterful as she deserves anon i wish you luck.
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>>2379140
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>>2379137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuCGiV-EVjA
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>>2379153
they're trying to submit right before the deadline. right now someone has submitted 1 second before the deadline
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>>2379129
Which guy? There's a bunch of people using those.
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>>2379155
They will all die only Forza and Freeman will stay.
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>>2379151
Rover is legion.
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helio why are all of your drawings good? draw something bad you fucker!
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>>2379146
fuck this, I'm going for the record on the next one. Might cost me the token, but fuck it if I'm going to let some punk get a hold on the record

>tfw the adrenaline rush makes me quiver.
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>>2379181
my drawings are utter shit. I wish I had fmmood's design sense and be able to put out stuff like Naf's.
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>>2379187
draw fan art? robots and shit tend to be the best way to work those special creation muscles.
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>>2379186
rip
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>>2379187
Is this the /ic/ equivalent of /fit/'s body dysmorphia? Will we never feel like we're anything more than utter shit ever?
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>>2379192
while I do some fanart ocassionally, it's not something I really enjoy (unless it's a redesign/diferent style). Don't worry, I'm already working on the next submission and it's gonna be a world class in absolute shit.
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>>2379196

That feeling will never go away. Never. Talk to any professional artist, behind the cocky persona that some have, they all feel like frauds. It's just part of the process.

The more you know about art, the more you realise that you don't know shit about art. making.
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>>2379197
your poses are like really..."safe" yeah that works, you should try to tackle that too. either way we all need self hatred so i get how you feel but dont be so harsh on your self I personal really like your color choices and have your pic as a phone background.
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>>2379204
I've always been more of an environment guy so when I do characters I default to standard poses from concept art. I do have bout of figure study but I'm a huge spaz that will be photobashing mountains and random mechanic part on one day, be doing 3D on the next day and then jump into full painting. I have the attention span of a gold fish and I get easily bored with studies. I usually only study when I'm strugling with a particular item on a piece I'm working, and even then I'll pretty much skim over it as fast as I can so I can get back to do what I was doing.
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SOMEBODY NOTICE ME DAMMIT

I'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD
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>>2379228
no.
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>>2379228
i know this feel.. fight it in the silence with all of us terrible scrubs.
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>>2379228
what is your name fellow pirate.
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>>2379239
Rover
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>>2379251
>rover's name will kill any noob artist trying to get views.
>rover has become an anti click bait virus
nice.
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>>2379040
Share?
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>>2379228
I feel like we all should strive to make comments and critiques on a few submissions everyday, this would make LAS much more valuable to everyone. How hard is it to pick a few users everyday and tell them what their weak points are? If a few of us did this everyday these threads wouldn't be so shitty. I think I'll try to do this tomorrow, anyone else wanna do it?
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>did a study and something from imagination that used what I learned
>really happy with how it was turning out
>leave for class, come back to find that computer crashed
>was running live USB so all data was lost
Damn, I'm angry. I guess if I look on the bright side, I'm being forced to practice more.
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>>2379271
>was running live USB while working on a file you don't want to lose
I hope you feel dumb and learned your lesson.
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>>2379273
Yeah, I fucked something up on the main volume and was too lazy to fix it so I was doing this as a temporary solution. I should have backed it up.
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>>2379038
I'm pretty sure this guy is trolling and isn't 7. No need to pile on the poor guy.
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>>2379294
7, if you're here this is your chance to defend yourself.
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>>2379294
Maybe he is 7

7 years old
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>>2379137
I could have sworn I got 23:59:59 the day before, what was my time? Pls I need to get it over with so I can join forza.
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>Whoa my submissions are finally gaining some steam
>happy with 20 views now
>check views for my first submission
>169
Does quality even matter? Or is it all just timing?
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The bird looks a lot better now, demonicpen.
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What should I draw?
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>>2379330
A Range Rover
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>>2379330
the first image in this thread combined with the last image in this thread
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>>2379315
Timing does matter, but my submissions are the same way. I think everyone was just excited at the beginning and wanted to scope out who was competing with them.
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>>2379345
I definitely look at less submissions now. For the first week or so I looked at every single one, but now I just click on whatever happens to catch my eye. And if someone goes to your profile they'll probably start by looking at your first submission.
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>>2379228
Don't strive to be noticed. be the silent, unmoving pillar that uploads work consistently. Be the LASt Artist Standing, take the victory from everyone, right under their noses; They'll never suspect you.
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Baddie, the girl's breast is too far up, it's as if it extends past her torso. Think about what's going on behind the shoulder. Her mouth is also too far inward, and Kamina's arm is short and thin.
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>>2379262
I'd rather let people know I want critique when I'm ready, not have them randomly give me tips when I'm working through a book or something.

Would be best if you can flag your submission for critique in the future when Lava makes progress on the site.
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>LAS 4 is almost over
This has been going for almost a month, guys. Congrats to everyone who's still kicking.
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>>2379397
>flag for critique
I like this idea. It would be nice to leave stuff from imagination open for critique, but I agree that I don't want people critiquing my studies. There could be a simple indicator like a colored "C" next to the name in the info bar.
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>>2379408
I like the idea of a critique flag. I kind of feel like I'm attention whoring if I directly post here to get critique. This way you can ask for critiques and just check people's comments here without having to announce yourself, or you can ask follow up questions if you want.
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>>2379378
Too bad I joined late and the best I can ever hope for is LAS #2 though.

Nobody remembers second place. Even if I win, I still go unnoticed.
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>>2379434
don't be surprised if every second comment is nigger or equally edgy shit like
ROVER ROVER XDDDDDDD ROVER
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>>2379445
LAS #2 master race, and isn't the leaderboards going to go by how many consecutive days posting so we can still beat the LAS #1 plebs
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>>2379445
you say that now but when las #1 is over you'll be the new oldfag
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>>2379446
I guess that's a possibility but you run that same risk just posting in the regular critique threads. I feel like most people in this are taking it fairly seriously so they'd actually try to give critique or not say anything if they had nothing useful. In the regular threads you open yourself up to anyone just goofing around. Having a daily drawing challenge is cool, I just hoped it would be supplemented by critique and art discussion.
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My last entry marks a little more than two weeks of consistent practice ranging between 1 hour and 4 hours a day (most commonly about 1.5 hours).

And I don't know. Looking back on the shit I did, it's kind of disheartening. I know that if I practice more and grind through the books I'm supposed to get better but it's so hard to put any faith into that gradual process if you can't see clear strides in skill advancement. And until I get three to six months out of myself, I won't know if the practicing I've done has actually been productive or if I've just wasted my time by practicing in a suboptimal way, or even worse, developing bad habits that will take even longer to un-learn.

The anxiety is painful. All I want to know is if I'm taking the right steps.
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>>2379472

> two weeks
I meant three weeks. 23 days. Fuck. You can't really do math with a crushed spirit.
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>>2379472
Same here familio
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>>2379134
I'm seriously planning on studying in goldsmiths/st martins/ community college. why? the student loans on the huge fees are crazy friendly. i don't need to be rich to pay for something which gets paid by the UK. I just have to bust ass. Is this not right?
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>>2379150
CMON FOUR PAGES WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>2379510
post work
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>>2379514
i've still have a year and a half to get ready for foundation year, or go straight for bachelors in animation. i'll go scan my latest sketches.
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>>2379516
Are you a U.K. citizen?
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I can't do it anymore, by the time I get back from work I've lost all strength


Goodbye friends
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>>2379530
yes give in to the inevitable, the weak shall perish
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>>2379530
do it before you go to work, or at work even? or a few sketches at the weekend to give you a couple of safety investments.
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>>2379530
weak faggot get out
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>>2379533

>10 hour shift and 2x1 hr commute

Anon yesterday I got grabbed my sketchpad grabbed my pen ready to Loomis but my body couldn't do it and I fell asleep

>>2379536
>>>2379530 (You)
>do it before you go to work, or at work even? or a few sketches at the weekend to give you a couple of safety investments.

But isn't this cheating? I want to do this properly or else itvwont feel satisfying
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>>2379542
exactly better to fail, than to have no honor and cheat
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>>2379524
No, I live inside the EU. I've read through all of the entry data, loaning data, etc. It all can be applied to me.
>>2379514
sketches in img are the best from yesterday. 1/3
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>>2379514
2/3
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>>2379514
3/3 one more that didn't make it in with the others.
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>jmgn hasn't posted yet
hang in there, kiddo
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>>2379472
I feel you. I should feel happy with my current skill level, but the thought of being unable to progress from intermediate to consumable/employable/scholarship-worthy/etc. is plaguing me.
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do you guys think we'll see anyone go pro? Like the olden days of CA?
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>>2379590
Yeah. Me.
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>>2379590
I'd like to see myself go pro.
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What if you were a famous artist like kron and took part in LAS? Would you be banned because no-one thought you were legit?
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>>2379590
I think we definitely will. Or at least hope so. There's some guys who are definitely gitting gud though. I'm envious as fuck but I hope they keep pursuing their art and find footholds in the industry or whichever section of the art world they want.
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>>2379558
I was visiting the senpai senpai
tomorrow: I eat shit trying to render fur
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>>2379590
I hope multiple people do and that we all end up having great networking connections
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>>2379510
>>2379547
Honestly, it's not a terrible idea as long as you're really aware of that huge student loan and that you probably aren't going to find stable employment as an artist straight after. Of my year the person I know who is doing best art-career wise has a bunch of good sounding shows but is still broke as fuck and had to move back in with their parents for a bit, whereas there's also a girl who doesn't even make art any more but got a nice job front of house in one of the better galleries so she's the best off. The studio spaces are really small and there's very little tutor contact time but you'll have a great experience and meet some truly nutty rich people.
Are you coming straight from college/school? Pretty much everyone I know agrees with me that taking a year out to just work (retail, whatever) whilst still building your portfolio will make art school ten times more useful (apply early and defer to a year later if possible). When you go straight from education to higher education without tasting the real world you don't know what you're taking for granted, you don't know how lazy you are and how out of touch with reality you're being. Saying that you're going to work really hard and utilise everything there means nothing when you have no experience of the real world, but maybe this isn't relevant to you.

In any case, good luck with whatever you chose but you're going to need to work on your portfolio if you're planning on putting your sketches in. Head to the draw thread for advice, learn to construct your angles. Hopefully you're actually a conceptual artist, because that's a better shot.>>2379547
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>>2379634
that would be hilarious
>/ic/ becomes a driving force in the art world
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>be the last artist standing
>finally a professional artist
>become a success story and new generations of wannabe artists will use your old archive of daily LAS submissions as the golden textbook of learning to draw
>beginner artists will follow it to the day like a pilgrimage
>they will build foundation exercises around all your dumb sonic porn in art schools across the world
>you will never escape that one submission that you traced and it ruins your career
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>>2379590
/ic/ will bow down and revere me in 2 years
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>>2379694
>it doesn't ruin your career but rather it helps promote you as a human
>"everybody has mistakes"
u gotta market yourself, goy
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>>2379542
You fooled me with that (You). Jad me questioning my memory for a second
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>>2379694
the next mullins could be posting nsfw fanart every day
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>>2379739
the next mullins will be a neet /ic/ autist
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Okay fuck team 23:30. I've finally got my shit together and now I'm going to grind 4 hours+ a day. 30 min warmups, 1 h gestures, 1 h book study and 1h imagination.
I'm tired of being shit
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>>2379786
wait thats 3 hours and a half. I might need to study maths too
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>>2379590

What's the olden days of CA?

>>2379634

When I start pitching my show, please help me get it on the air.
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>>2379795
>what's the olden days of CA?
From what I've heard, it was when the community was full of active and actually dedicated people and some pros (Clint Cearley, Noah Bradley, and a lot of big boys) posted there. Now it's full of newbies and it seems practically dead.
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>>2379795
>What's the olden days of CA?
conceptart.org in its prime was known as a place where people went to get help and they would git gud. now it's a community flooded with new artists that suffers from a lot of downtime
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>>2379800

No, I mean, what do you mean by CA? ConceptArt?

Because right now that website is buggy as fuck and pages take five centuries to load.
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>>2379803
yep, that's the one. it used to be something important
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>>2379800
>>2379802

Well, is there any online community that even comes close to what ConceptArt used to be? And don't say /ic/, I know people git gud here but definitely not in significant number judging by the raw bitterness I see in every post that's not in a LAS thread.
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Am I essentially tracing if I overlay a picture of my drawing over the ref a few times to check what I'm doing wrong? I feel like I'm cheating.

Or would I learn more by redrawing it till I get it right without overlaying until my paper has a hole in from the erasing? Or should I not kill myself by trying to get it just right if I'm too shit?
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>>2379819
If you can't do it without the overlay then I'd say you're cheating yourself
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>>2379819
flip the drawing horizontally to check for mistakes, flip the reference too if you have to, but the point is to train your eye. If you just do it to check, sure, but do it at the very end when you are done with it.
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>>2379826
or if you draw traditionally, put it in front of a light, or look in a mirror.
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>>2379530
>hello darkness my old friend
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>>2379294
>>2379297

Real 7 here, didnt post the original comment to lava but his response was nice so i replied.
You guys want proof or something?
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>>2379826
>>2379824
I got it surprisingly right except for the glaring mistake that the eye was way too high and a minor difference in an angle or two. But now that I look at what I've drawn I honestly don't think I could've done it this well so I'm definitely cheating. Oh well. I completely forgot about the flipping it desu, should've just done that.
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>>2379590
If this goes on long enough, and people push themselves to learn and apply new things rather than just doing comfort zone sketches and shit then yeah, definitely.

My plan is to keep going for as long as I can. I might have stagnated but so long as I'm still in the competition you guys will have to be too, and you'll keep on improving.
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>>2379739
>>2379694
Was thinking this yesterday, the next Mullins could legit be in LAS right now. We can't all make it but one of us is a god in making but just doesn't know it yet.
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>>2379842

>so long as I'm still in the competition you guys will have to be too, and you'll keep on improving.

Holy shit this is true. We're actually helping each other improve.
We're all gonna make it
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>>2379789
kek

>>2379800
>Noah

REEEEEEEEE
The true golden age was when you had Marko and Wes Burt and everyone in the forums taking part. When Miles and Appleflinger got their start on there was about then, good times. Noah and the new kids were much later.
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>>2379845
I like Wesley burt better, but I didn't know he was in CA.
>Appleflinger
kek
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>>2379847
There was such potential that got polished into diamonds there, good times. Bumskee was one of my favourites too.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php/327-Most-Discussed-Artwork-of-All-Time

Wes was definitely there, there was some ridiculous request for people to draw some guy's shitty OC one time and Wes actually did it, which was amazing. And then pros came out the woodwork to do their own versions of this guy's terrible character, it was fantastic. I'll try find it but I can't remember the name of the character, think it was like noro or numbru or some shit.
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>>2379849
The Legend of Nibru https://encyclopediadramatica.se/ConceptArt#The_Legend_of_Nibru
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>>2379851
That was it, thanks anon. Yeah Wes was the original reply and then you had guys like Marko taking part. The OP had no idea what he was getting but the community lost their shit with how cool it was.
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>>2379851
>>2379849
My sides
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>mfw I've been drawing all day instead of writing assignments
Should I just drop out already and live for Loomis? All in or nothing.
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>>2379865
no
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>>2379865
don't do it!
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NAF how did you git so gud?
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>>2379865
Yes!! give up so I can win earlier
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>>2379875
Do you even know how to read my dear anon? Don't make me fucking explain to you what he wrote and how you fucked it up
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>>2379875
Drop out as in drop out from school, not the Who's the Biggest Autist -competition. Unless you kill me you're not going to win.
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>>2379878
All right I'm losing math and grammar knowledge, that must mean my brain is allocating space for artistic gains, right?
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humanbean your cars are looking less retarded keep going. scott robertson will guide you
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>>2379890
nah u just stuped
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>>2379689
I am studying second to last year of high school. Last year from march to december i worked a full time job at a restaurant, starting as a dishwasher and after 3 months to be promoted as a cook's assistant/line cook. I know what real work is like. My high school education is thru internet. I left the job because of my worsening skin condition which disallowed me to work a kitchen job. from the money i earned i bought myself a serious workstation(pc) and a more professional tablet than the last one. I want to study animation since it's what i've been tinkering with since i was about 10 (both 2d and 3d). Right now i'm devoting most of my time to studies and stocking up my visual library, soaking up influences.

how come a conceptual artist is a better shot?

also, thanks for advice. i highly appreciate it.
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>>2379890
I had a nightmare last week where I was in school and the maths teacher stood by my desk and started going through my test paper, and I'd done so badly. Other people were listening and smirking and she was like cmon anon you know this, we learned this in first year, but then it turned out my art knowledge had pushed all my maths out of my head and I was now like retard level couldn't even 1+1.

Felt pretty embarrassing but I still thought it was better to have the art know how instead.
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>>2379932
>high school

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS GET HIM
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>>2379961
Not him but I'm pretty sure you can be 18 and in HS, depending on the country maybe. At least where I live "HS" is generally to 18-19.
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>>2379966
is there an 18 and over rule here or something?
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>>2379967
Yes, you should've seen it when you first came to 4chan.
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>>2379967
Yes.
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>>2379969
>>2379971
makes sense i guess considering what goes on here
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>>2379961
There are some underage boys participating in LAS, I see nothing wrong with it
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>>2379971
>>2379969
Come on, who the fuck actually joins 4chan after 18?
I entered this shithole when I was 11
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>>2379967

Yes and you will get banned from 4chan now for being dumb enough to show your age unless you delete that post before the mods arrive
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>>2379976
And Moot was 15 when he started 4chan, yet the under18b& rule exists and is enforced by the mods.

Really, as long as you're not stupid enough to reveal your current age no one honestly cares.
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>>2379976

That's kinda sad, I joined when I was 19 and am glad I had a normal childhood
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>>2379961
i'm 18, if i wouldn't be i would not disclose this information, you idiot. any self respecting user of 4chan 18 or not is atleast half witted enough to not say "oh i'm under 18" "oh i hope noone will ban me" jesus christ what's wrong with you.
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>>2379982
I also joined at that age
10 years ago
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>>2379989

You can't save yourself now, kid.
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>>2379990
granpa pls
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>>2379989


>is there an 18 and over rule here or something? (You)

See you in a year
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I turn 19 today guys, why do I feel so bad about it? fuck
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>>2379996
I'm turning 24 soon. Firez is in his 30s or something. Brad didn't even start till that age. It's just a number man, all that matters in terms of that is how many hours you put in.
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>>2379998
This, it doesn't matter when you start, you can always git gud with time.
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>>2379996

Because adulthood seems shit, it is but then you adapt and learn and turns out to be not as bad.
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>>2379993
>>2379990
heh, you guys. there are countries in which the last two classes of high school is 18/19, also if i skipped a year or re-did a year i might be 20 in my last year. also at no point i disclosed my birth date or information. please stop playing, fools.
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>>2380000
Quads of truth confirm, age doesn't matter unless you're like a year from death.
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>>2379843
I am the next Mullins, I know it. I just don't know what to do.
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>>2380006
git
gud
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new thread asshats
>>2379997
>>2379997
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>>2380008
We're only on page 7 asshat
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>>2380013
and used his own troll drawing, what a cool guy
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>>2380008
We agreed to make new threads when the current one hits page 9.
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>>2380013
couldn't wait to snag the opportunity for exopsure
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>>2380018
the fuck outta here
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>>2380037
Get the fuck out of here*
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>>2380051
aint no shiza inda nig ha
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>>2379979
I'm 29
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