Ideal Europe Thread

Making the Czech Republic part of Austria doesn't make any sense Czechs are Slavs and Austrians are Germanic. Might as well just add an independent Czechoslovakia by taking land from Austria and Hungary

>>2807082
no
germany still exists

>>2807082
Why does every "ideal Europe" map look it was made by butthurt Greeks and Germans?

Your genocide attempts failed and you got your asses kicked, fuck off Hans and Alexios.

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>>2807147
But the Hungary is so aesthetic

>>2807082
Speaking as a Briton, as aesthetic as the united isles looks, there isn't really a political, ethnic or cultural reason for the two countries to be in a union.

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>>2807082
Fixed

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Obviously.


Also, I claim Adriatica.

>>2807082
>Greece - good
>Hungary - lose Croatia and good
>Lowlands - good
Everything else is retarded though, especially
>Albania - exists

>>2807334
>new saxony
>74% paki
hmm...

>>2807163
t. Pierre Osmanoglu

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best map of the world

I never understood why people make these maps. Is it actual autism? A sense that current borders don't make sense and make you REEEEEEEE?

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I drew this some time ago so it's a bit outdated.

>>2807082
>>2807333
>>2807629
why the fuck does bosnia still exist

>>2807147
The only difference between Czechs and Austrians is their language

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>>2807082

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>>2808198
this is what Americans actualy bealive

>>2808223
>byt takovejhle debil

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>>2808227
jdi do píči Žiďáku

>>2808215
not bad, i'd only change the baltics and caucasus. Smaller Estonia and Latvia, giving Russian minority areas to Russia, and just a general change around in the caucasus. I'd probably give Geneva to France and give Serbia some of Bosnia too.
8/10

>>2808234
>Radola Gajda
>rodným jménem RUDOLF GEIDL
Slovan jak řemen

>>2807629
>Kingdom of the French ruled by the Bourbons
>Not French Empire ruled by a Bonaprte

Shit map, not gonna bother reading any farther.

>>2808215
>italian Savoy
Wait what?

>>2808262
It makes that border look much better

>>2808249
>Táta Čech z Moravy
>Máma Černohorka
Skopčák jak cyp

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The only way desu

>>2807082
Europe sucks ass because its so tiny, Id rather European countries expand into North America instead due to more land space.

>>2807082
>Austria
>not ruler of the HRE
why anon

>>2807199
>two countries
The personal union of crowns you pleb

>>2807629
>northern Sweden is finnish but western Finland is not swedish
What is wrong with you

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>>2809031
>Small enclaves of Swedish speaking population

>Give the entire coast to Sweden

Fuck off Sven

>>2809044
and next to nothing of northern Sweden is finnish speaking
basically only old people speak it there

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>>2809044
>The entire coast
But no one said this Petti

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>>2809052
Indeed, So lets just keep the Tornea river as the border

>>2808215
>>2807629
I will never understand why so many of these maps have Transylvania split like in WW2, it's completely arbitrary and it looks awful.
Either give it all to Hungary, leave it as is or make it independent.

>>2809066
>it's completely arbitrary

There's an exclave of Hungarians in Romania. The split is just because they think a panhandle looks unaesthetic.

>>2809063
We should atleast get Åland though

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this is correct

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>>2809066
These are the ethnic groups in Transylvania.
Purple are Romanians, orange are Hungarians.

>>2809066
How it looks doesnt matter

>>2809094
Forgot to say that most of the purple ones are unhabitated hellholes.

>>2809094
That's not the entire Transylvania though
>>2809168
>Forgot to say that most of the purple ones are unhabitated hellholes
What do you mean?

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Honestly don't give a shit what you faggot think
This is my ideal europe and an personal alt/hist/ where white army won Russian civil war and Greeks, Armenian and Entente were successful in Turkish war for independence. Even Assyrians gain their clay after WW1.
Fascism and Hitler still rises but no war with Poland begins.

Litearlly heaven.

Every map without a greater turkey sucks ass.

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>>2809271
Every map with turkey sacks ass.

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I know this is supposed to be about Europe, but i only got world maps. They still apply though.

1/3

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>>2809326
2/3

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>>2809333
3/3

>>2808925
>no Elsass-Lothringen

>>2809326
Africa and the Americas are alright but a lot of the rest doesn't make much sense.

Why is Korea grouped with Japan?
Why is Greece grouped with Italy?
Why is Bangladesh grouped with India?

>>2809326
We have another thread for world maps (or any map) here >>2808878

>>2807082
> Scotland isn't independent
Kill yourself

>>2809421
>Scotland exist
kys

>>2809362
>how to cause war

>>2809255
Why are you so upset over this? Did I hit a nerve?

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>>2809255
>Posen
>Niederschlesien

>But not Danzig

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>>2809515
Actually Danzig is part of Eastern Prussia, Poland controls Gdynia.
And Poznan is still in polish control.

Know your geography.

>>2809514
what?

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I have no idea why I did this

>>2809085
This

>>2809581
anon...

>>2809255
If you take Northern Ireland from the Bongs and give Corsica back to the Italians it would be perfect.

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>>2809515
>Gdańsk
>G*rman

Umhh no honey

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>>2809722
>Posen
>Polish
ummm, no sweetie, sory do burst your buble.

>>2809307
I'll sack your ass.

>>2809737
Ummm soz love, but Poznań was in Polish hands ever since the Piast dynasty in 10th century. G*rmans only took it after the partitions

>>2809581
NATO would be proud. Who even likes federal governments?

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>>2809764
Ummm surry luv, but tribal village of Posen was German since Suebi tribe migrated there even since 1st century. Poolacks only took it after they migrated there.

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>>2809793
Ummm sweetheart, Poles were the majority by 9th century and they made the city great. Not some sauerkraut eating Fritz and Helga

>>2807199

Well, we can agree on that at least, my tan friend.

Here's mine.

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>>2809836
Ummm sugar, Germans were the majority by 19h century in Danzig, Stettin and Breslau, They made cities beautiful with amazing germanic architecture. Not some smalec, kielbasa eating Casimir and Olga.

>>2809879
Ummh okay there honey, but cities such as Gdańsk were raised to the ground by the soviets and it was the Poles that had to build them back up, while Erika and Helmut were getting gibs from the Marshall plan

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>>2809879
Forgot the pic, hun

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>>2809925
Fair enough.
Don't need no more brother wars for clay.

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>>2809939
Wew, this is the first time were I met a non toxic German in a Polack-Kraut argument. You're okay Kraut, if Abdul goes full jihad on you, then you can chill in Wrocław

>>2809975
y-you too, polack.

>>2807486
t. Heinrich von Panagiotopoulos

>>2809984
>>2807486

t. Cleetus Curtis

>>2809983
;-)

>>2807334
>brussel
>french
kys

>>>/int/
>>>/bant/

>>2807579
Fix scytho-arya. Cut it off at Iran's western border and get rid of all the mid east/north africa stuff

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>>2810283
Impressive. Very nice.

>>2807629
reee i want to be a kingdom or a duchy too

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This is the ultimate map of europe. Anything else was a downgrade.

>>2809581
change livomo to Vidzeme and Augšzeme to Sēlija and then the maps good

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kinda just winged this from a blank map but i think the main points get across

>>2810414
Fuck off reddit, no one gives a shit.

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>>2807082
Nah mate.

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Where is Ukraine ?
>hurr not a real country
Fuck you.

>>2813239
No such thing

>>2809255
>Northern Ireland existing

You're autistic.
A small detail, sure, but NI implies that you want both Ireland and the UK essentially cucked.

You don't want Britain to have Ireland in an ideal scenario, but want them to have NI? Why? NI produces little of note, it isn't special, it exists because of essentially a compromise.

I can understanding wanting a United Ireland or a United British Isles, but that?

That one detail reveals to me that you have absolutely shit taste.

>>2807082
Its like I am in /gsg/ during american hours.

>>2807082
>Hungary

shit tier

>>2807629
consider suicide

>>2807082
>Has borders
>""""""Ideal"""""""

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Why do so many people in these threads want the Republic of Ireland to rejoin the UK?
Are they unaware of the massive amounts of butthurt and inevitable war this would create or do they just not care?
Anyone who thinks the Republic could be peacefully reintegrated into the Union knows nothing about Ireland desu

>>2814992
I don't agree with ROI rejoining again but at least it's a more novel opinion than hurr durr le united Ireland meme

>ideal

>breaks down violently several times

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>>2807579
>Even in pan Indo-European empires being a Celt is suffering.

>>2810790
This.
>Believing the Phonecians and Egyptians were Aryan meme

Gotta love the incompetency of all these maps. "Let's give Greece Constantinople despite the fact it would make Greece have more Turkish citizens than Greek ones!" "Let's put Ireland back in the UK despite the fact fact they hate each other so much they tried to kill each other is the reason they're separate in the first place!" "Let's reform Yugoslavia despite the fact the locals fought a war to reject the very concept!" "Give Ukraine back to Russia, It's not like the Ukrainians will detest being reduced to slave labor for people who speak different language and have no interest in preserving their livelihoods!"

>>2807082
>Poland

This map is autistic. Where do I begin...

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>>2807082

>>2808925
>Poland still exists

>>2809581
This looks like the worst game of EU4 ever played.

>>2808198
Czech girls are the best tho

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>>2807082
Here's a blank one so you can easily make your own

>>2809255
You literally cannot be more Serbshit than that anon

>>2812799
Who said Bulgarians want Macedonian territory? Literally if anyone is as deluded as they are, they deserve to be separate.

>>2815020
Northern Ireland is one of the biggest non-counties in existence. Literally created to appease autists while shit was kicking off in Europe. It isn't known for anything other than the fact the people are retarded and it's an economic black hole.

Ireland should be all british, or totally irish.

>>2815695

Icerael was a good one.

>>2810283
>belgium

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Lol

>>2815796
It was created and still exists to prevent a civil war mate. Pretty sure the people responsible had a bit more going on up there than some random image board posters.
Should =/= possible

>>2815938
haha memes ha ha

>>2808925
10/10 anon do want

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>>2807082
Prove me wrong
>Pro-tip: You can't

>>2815676
And once again, what happens to all those Turks? You realize those borders leave a Majority Muslim/Turkic population in your Neo-Byzantine masturbation fantasy right? Those people have been living their longer than America has existed, do we give that back to the Indians? What's Mega-Finland going to do with all these Russians and Estonians?

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Best map here

>Russia exists
>"best" anything
No

>>>/bantint/

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>>2807082
Free Ireland and it will almost be as perfect as this

any map where macedonia isn't part of bulgaria belongs in the trash

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only correct answer

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>>2818484
I almost fell for this

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>>2807082
Just fuck my balance of power up. R8

>>2819089
>Yorkshire independance
>A socialist one
>implying everyone wouldnt just rise up immediately
>implying even 10% of Yorkshire would tolerate that
>implying everyone wants to be poor and third world.

>>2819160
pretty good, just

1. unite italy and give them their rightful clay
2. either give valencia and all rightful clay to independent catalonia or put it back under spain
3. livonian order? the fuck is a medieval german crusader state doing here?
4. give vidin back to bulgaria man wtf

also maybe
5. give poland it's corridor to sea
6. unite mashriq into greater syria

>>2816254
Most of the Anatolian population is assimilated Byzantines, it's not like Turks killed everyone there. All you have to do is assimilate them back.

>>2819168
No problems with the Australian Crimea then?

>>2807147
Why does everyone always want to stuff the Czechs and Slovaks in one country?

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>>2819386
>Almost identical language
>Once bros, always bros
>Czechoslovakia was one of the most developed countries in Europe/World in 1918-1938

I wonder

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>>2807082
the one and only

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>>2819421

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>>2819415

>>2819386
because everyone loves that snek shaped country slithering from Ukraine to germany

>>2819421
dat border gore.....rip magyar

>>2819434
Fuck em, you get the gist of the map.

>>2819290
Nah I mean irl shit posting in nation form desu

>>2808215
God tier map
>>2808272
this is true, now it looks less like a shoe and more like a hammer
also, wasnt savoy italian (pietmonese)?

>>2815695
Switzerland should be renamed Mountain Israel

>>2819421
I like it

>>2809255
Other than big Germany, pretty good.

>>2809801
I like this. Hopefully in my lifetime.

>>2819424
Red India makes me happy. Russian Empire makes me sad.

>>2813239
Divided between Poland and Russia?

>>2819157
Hurts anyway. Reviving the Habsburg Empire, thats Necromancy of the worst kind.

>>2807333
>Lol I am le so funny
>Le germans are le worst haha

>>2807082
>Alsace-Lorraine meme
No one in there is German any more ya doofus

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>>2808925

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>>2821538
Its a massive reserve for the natives, why no like Russia, here is blank so You can edit if you want.
In regards to >>2819424
>Red India is for north american indians
>Chile is for south Americans
>Abyssinia is for Africans
>Sunnistan for Sunni Muslims
>Shitestan for Shites
>Arabia for Arabs in general

Tbqh the whole reason of the map is I wanted to create a railroad from Singapore to the Cape that goes through Jerusalem and across the Suez. Rhodes wasn't dreaming big enough.
>Also Texan Liberia makes me so hard

>>2809801
>Constantanople without Turks
Good luck with that so long as the Turks remain in nato.