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Where is the actual proof that the Protocols of Zion is a forgery?

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Where is the actual proof that the Protocols of Zion is a forgery?

I'm trying to research why it's not real on the internet, but every single source I comes across will go on and on about how it's "a proven hoax and forgey" but they won't actually say WHY. They just repeat the same shit without explaining why it's fake

The more I read it the more it makes sense. It was first published in 1905

>the future course of the Snake is not shown on this map, but arrows indicate its next movement towards Moscow, Kiev, and Odessa. It is now well know to us to what extent the latter cities form the centers of the militant JEWISH RACE. Constantinople is shown as the last of the Snake's course before it reaches Jerusalem.

Predicting decades prior the destruction of Tsarist Russia, the ottoman empire, AND the creation of Israel. Really makes you hmm. I wonder why they would want you to think it was a forgery. If my master plan got out I'd try my damnedest to make everyone think it was fake as well.
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You can literally prove plagiarized content within it, you dumb goy.
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>>2381489
none
it was real
look at the world today, it follows the same exact pattern as the book describe
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>>2381507
pretty much this

somebody post the protcols .PNG, I want to read it again
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The protocols even predicted minimum wage

>we shall raise the rate of wages which, however, will not bring any advantage to the workers, for, at the same time, we shall produce a rise in prices of the first necessaries of life, alleging that it arises from the decline of agriculture and cattle-breeding

>we shall further undermine artfully and deeply sources of production, by accustoming the workers to anarchy and to drunkenness and side by side therewith taking all measure to extirpate from the face of the earth all the educated forces of the "goyim."

>in order that the true meaning of things may not strike the "goyim" before the proper time we shall mask it under an alleged ardent desire to serve the working classes and the great principles of political economy about which our economic theories are carrying on an energetic propaganda
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> 25. Far back in ancient times we were the first to cry among the masses of the people the words
"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," words many times repeated since these days by stupid poll- parrots
who, from all sides around, flew down upon these baits and with them carried away the well-being of
the world, true freedom of the individual, formerly so well guarded against the pressure of the mob.
The would-be wise men of the GOYIM, the intellectuals, could not make anything out of the uttered
words in their abstractedness; did not see that in nature there is no equality, cannot be freedom: that
Nature herself has established inequality of minds, of characters, and capacities, just as immutably as
she has established subordination to her laws: never stopped to think that the mob is a blind thing,
that upstarts elected from among it to bear rule are, in regard to the political, the same blind men as
the mob itself, that the adept, though he be a fool, can yet rule, whereas the non-adept, even if he were
a genius, understands nothing in the political - to all those things the GOYIM paid no regard; yet all
the time it was based upon these things that dynastic rule rested: the father passed on to the son a
knowledge of the course of political affairs in such wise that none should know it but members of the
dynasty and none could betray it to the governed. As time went on, the meaning of the dynastic
transference of the true position of affairs in the political was lost, and this aided the success of our
cause
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>>2381541
>26. In all corners of the earth the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," brought to our ranks, thanks
to our blind agents, whole legions who bore our banners with enthusiasm. And all the time these
words were canker-worms at work boring into the well-being of the GOYIM, putting an end
everywhere to peace, quiet, solidarity and destroying all the foundations of the GOYA States. As you
will see later, this helped us to our triumph: it gave us the possibility, among other things, of getting
into our hands the master card - the destruction of the privileges, or in other words of the very
existence of the aristocracy of the GOYIM, that class which was the only defense peoples and countries
had against us. On the ruins of the eternal and genealogical aristocracy of the GOYIM we have set up
the aristocracy of our educated class headed by the aristocracy of money. The qualifications for this
aristocracy we have established in wealth, which is dependent upon us, and in knowledge, for which
our learned elders provide the motive force.
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>Protocol No. 2 (On war)
1. It is indispensable for our purpose that wars, so far as possible, should not result in territorial
gains: war will thus be brought on to the economic ground, where the nations will not fail to perceive
in the assistance we give the strength of our predominance, and this state of things will put both sides
at the mercy of our international AGENTUR; which possesses millions of eyes ever on the watch and
unhampered by any limitations whatsoever. Our international rights will then wipe out national rights,
in the proper sense of right, and will rule the nations precisely as the civil law of States rules the
relations of their subjects among themselves.
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>>2381519
You mean something that existed before they were written? Pretty impressive.
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>on press and education
3. Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the
successes we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism. To us Jews, at any rate, it should be
plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM.
4. It is indispensable for us to take account of the thoughts, characters, tendencies of the nations in
order to avoid making slips in the political and in the direction of administrative affairs. The triumph
of our system of which the component parts of the machinery may be variously disposed according to
the temperament of the peoples met on our way, will fail of success if the practical application of it be
not based upon a summing up of the lessons of the past in the light of the present.
5. In the hands of the States of to-day there is a great force that creates the movement of thought in
the people, and that is the Press. The part played by the Press is to keep pointing our requirements
supposed to be indispensable, to give voice to the complaints of the people, to express and to create
discontent. It is in the Press that the triumph of freedom of speech finds its incarnation. But the
GOYIM States have not known how to make use of this force; and it has fallen into our hands. Through
the Press we have gained the power to influence while remaining ourselves in the shade; thanks to the
Press we have got the GOLD in our hands, notwithstanding that we have had to gather it out of the
oceans of blood and tears. But it has paid us, though we have sacrificed many of our people. Each
victim on our side is worth in the sight of God a thousand GOYIM.
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>POVERTY OUR WEAPON
5. All people are chained down to heavy toil by poverty more firmly than ever. They were chained by
slavery and serfdom; from these, one way and another, they might free themselves. These could be
settled with, but from want they will never get away. We have included in the constitution such rights
as to the masses appear fictitious and not actual rights. All these so-called "Peoples Rights" can exist
only in idea, an idea which can never be realized in practical life. What is it to the proletariat laborer,
bowed double over his heavy toil, crushed by his lot in life, if talkers get the right to babble, if
journalists get the right to scribble any nonsense side by side with good stuff, once the proletariat has
no other profit out of the constitution save only those pitiful crumbs which we fling them from our
table in return for their voting in favor of what we dictate, in favor of the men we place in power, the
servants of our AGENTUR ... Republican rights for a poor man are no more than a bitter piece of irony,
for the necessity he is under of toiling almost all day gives him no present use of them, but the other
hand robs him of all guarantee of regular and certain earnings by making him dependent on strikes by
his comrades or lockouts by his masters.
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>>2381489
Did you even read the Wikipedia article? It's literally a collection of anti-Semitic canards from 19th century. There is nothing particularly original or new about that work.
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>WE SUPPORT COMMUNISM
6. The people, under our guidance, have annihilated the aristocracy, who were their one and only
defense and foster- mother for the sake of their own advantage which is inseparably bound up with the
well-being of the people. Nowadays, with the destruction of the aristocracy, the people have fallen into
the grips of merciless money-grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the
necks of the workers.
7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose
to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces - Socialists, Anarchists, Communists - to whom we
always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of
our SOCIAL MASONRY. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers, was
interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the
opposite - in the diminution, the KILLING OUT OF THE GOYIM. Our power is in the chronic
shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the
slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our
will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the
aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.
8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands
we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.
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>>2381551
They predicted the world wars as well mate


http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/kidd/thesis/pdf/protocols.pdf
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>WE SHALL DESTROY GOD
3. But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the
well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of
humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of
creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed
by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its
spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS
INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE
"GOYIM" THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE
ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.
4. In order to give the GOYIM no time to think and take note, their minds must be diverted towards
industry and trade. Thus, all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain and in the race for
it will not take note of their common foe. But again, in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the GOYIM, we must put industry on a speculative basis: the result of this
will be that what is withdrawn from the land by industry will slip through the hands and pass into
speculation, that is, to our classes.
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>>2381489
What if it is a forgery but by pure coincidence it perfectly mirrored the actual state of the world, and that's why it makes the Jews so butthurt?
It's not entirely unrealistic, Jews and coincidences tend to go hand in hand so why couldn't it happen to be a forgery that accidentally turned out to be true?

I mean we do live in a world where "The Wreck of the Titan" was published 14 years before the sinking of the Titanic, and Back to the Future predicts 9/11, sometimes wacky shit happens.
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>>23815695.
The intensified struggle for superiority and shocks delivered to economic life will create, nay, have
already created, disenchanted, cold and heartless communities. Such communities will foster a strong
aversion towards the higher political and towards religion. Their only guide is gain, that is Gold, which
they will erect into a veritable cult, for the sake of those material delights which it can give. Then will
the hour strike when, not for the sake of attaining the good, not even to win wealth, but solely out of
hatred towards the privileged, the lower classes of the GOYIM will follow our lead against our rivals for
power, the intellectuals of the GOYIM
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>>2381568
>literally: if you mess with jews: we'll start a world war
>written in 1905
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>MASSES LED BY LIES
4. Moreover, the art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory
and verbitage, by regulations of life in common and all sorts of other quirks, in all which the GOYIM
understand nothing, belongs likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain. Reared on analysis,
observation, on delicacies of fine calculation, in this species of skill we have no rivals, any more than
we have either in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity. In this respect the Jesuits
alone might have compared with us, but we have contrived to discredit them in the eyes of the
unthinking mob as an overt organization, while we ourselves all the while have kept our secret
organization in the shade. However, it is probably all the same to the world who is its sovereign lord,
whether the head of Catholicism or our despot of the blood of Zion! But to us, the Chosen People, it is
very far from being a matter of indifference.
5. FOR A TIME PERHAPS WE MIGHT BE SUCCESSFULLY DEALT WITH BY A COALITION OF
THE "GOYIM" OF ALL THE WORLD: but from this danger we are secured by the discord existing
among them whose roots are so deeply seated that they can never now be plucked up. We have set one
against another the personal and national reckonings of the GOYIM, religious and race hatreds, which
we have fostered into a huge growth in the course of the past twenty centuries. This is the reason why
there is not one State which would anywhere receive support if it were to raise its arm, for every one of
them must bear in mind that any agreement against us would be unprofitable to itself. We are too
strong - there is no evading our power. THE NATIONS CANNOT COME TO EVEN AN
INCONSIDERABLE PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITHOUT OUR SECRETLY HAVING A HAND IN IT.
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>>2381568
In what way? No vague nonsense, please. Tell me how they predicted WW1 and WW2.
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>>2381571
Don't forget lucky larry
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>>2381585
Did you read it?
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On Liberty

2. The words of the liberal, which are in effect the words of our masonic watchword, namely,
"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," will, when we come into our kingdom, be changed by us into words no
longer of a watchword, but only an expression of idealism, namely, into "The right of liberty, the duty
of equality, the ideal of brotherhood." That is how we shall put it, - and so we shall catch the bull by the
horns ... DE FACTO we have already wiped out every kind of rule except our own, although DE JURE
there still remain a good many of them. Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only
PRO FORMA at our discretion and by our direction, for THEIR ANTI-SEMITISM IS
INDISPENSABLE TO US FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR LESSER BRETHREN. I will not enter
into further explanations, for this matter has formed the subject of repeated discussions amongst us.
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>>2381571
It mirrored the state of the world because it was a product of 19th century fears regarding industrialization, secularization and mass movements. In Germany the Jews were blamed for all these things.
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>>2381586
Or Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Omer Marmari, Oded Ellner and Yaron Schmuel
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>>2381596
>literally predicted the world wars
>pure coincidence goyim
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>>2381590
Yes. Did they control Nicolas II or Wilhelm II?
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>CHRISTIAN YOUTH DESTROYED
10. We have fooled, bemused, and corrupted the youth of the Goyim, by rearing them in principles and theories which known to us to be false
Although it is that they have been inculcated.

11. Above the existing laws without substantially altering them, and by merely twisting them into
contradictions of interpretations, we have erected something grandiose in the way of results. These
results found expression in the fact that the INTERPRETATIONS MASKED THE LAW: afterwards
they entirely hid them from the eyes of the governments owing to the impossibility of making anything
out of the tangled web of legislation.
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>>2381606
>how did it predict ww2
it's not like it's literally titled Universal War but alright bucko i'm not going to sit here and tell you why blue is blue
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>>2381600
How they predicted the world wars?
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>OUR GOAL - WORLD POWER
3. We count upon attracting all nations to the task of erecting the new fundamental structure, the
project for which has been drawn up by us. This is why, before everything, it is indispensable for us to
arm ourselves and to store up in ourselves that absolutely reckless audacity and irresistible might of
the spirit which in the person of our active workers will break down all hindrances on our way.
4. WHEN WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR COUP D'ETAT WE SHALL SAY THEN TO THE
VARIOUS PEOPLES: "EVERYTHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY BADLY, ALL HAVE BEEN WORN OUT
WITH SUFFERING. WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT - NATIONALITIES,
FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES. YOU ARE AT LIBERTY, OF COURSE, TO
PRONOUNCE SENTENCE UPON US, BUT CAN IT POSSIBLY BE A JUST ONE IF IT IS
CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TRIAL OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING YOU." ...
THEN WILL THE MOB EXALT US AND BEAR US UP IN THEIR HANDS IN A UNANIMOUS
TRIUMPH OF HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS. VOTING, WHICH WE HAVE MADE THE
INSTRUMENT WHICH WILL SET US ON THE THRONE OF THE WORLD BY TEACHING EVEN
THE VERY SMALLEST UNITS OF MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE TO VOTE BY MEANS OF
MEETINGS AND AGREEMENTS BY GROUPS, WILL THEN HAVE SERVED ITS PURPOSES AND
WILL PLAY ITS PART THEN FOR THE LAST TIME BY A UNANIMITY OF DESIRE TO MAKE
CLOSE ACQUAINTANCE WITH US BEFORE CONDEMNING US
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>>2381614
>5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF
CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got
from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we
shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the
possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the
front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and
attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in
any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people
will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings,
gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits
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>>2381612
UNIVERSAL WAR:

"We must be in a position to respond to every act of
opposition by war with the neighbours of that country
which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbours should
also venture to stand collectively together against us. then
we must offer resistance by a universal war.

The principal factor of success in the political is the
secrecy of its undertakmgs: the word should not agree
with the deeds of the diplomat.

We must compel the governments of the goytm to take
action in the direction favoured by our widely-conceived
plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by
what we shall represent as public opini6n, secretly
prompted by us through the means of that so-called
"Great Power" — the Press, which, with a few exceptions
that may be disregarded, is already entirely in our hands.

In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the govern-
ments of the goyirn in Europe in check, we shall show
our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to
all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against
us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China
or Japan."
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>POISON OF LIBERALISM
8. Under various names there exists in all countries approximately one and the same thing.
Representation, Ministry, Senate, State Council, Legislative and Executive Corps. I need not explain to
you the mechanism of the relation of these institutions to one another, because you are aware of all
that; only take note of the fact that each of the above-named institutions corresponds to some
important function of the State, and I would beg you to remark that the word "important" I apply not
to the institution but to the function, consequently it is not the institutions which are important but
their functions. These institutions have divided up among themselves all the functions of government -
administrative, legislative, executive, wherefore they have come to operate as do the organs in the
human body. If we injure one part in the machinery of State, the State falls sick, like a human body,
and ... will die.
9. When we introduced into the State organism the poison of Liberalism its whole political
complexion underwent a change. States have been seized with a mortal illness - blood poisoning. All
that remains is to await the end of their death agony.
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>>2381610
Please educate yourself. It wasn't exactly hard to predict such a war in 1903. Did they also predict the rise of fascism and the holocaust?
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>WE CONTROL THE PRESS
4. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL.
Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few
agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be
already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.
5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to
such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses
of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where
there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our
positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king
of all the world ....
6. Let us turn again to the FUTURE OF THE PRINTING PRESS. Every one desirous of being a
publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted
therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures THE
INSTRUMENT OF THOUGHT WILL BECOME AN EDUCATIVE MEANS ON THE HANDS OF OUR
GOVERNMENT, WHICH WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE MASS OF THE NATION TO BE LED
ASTRAY IN BY-WAYS AND FANTASIES ABOUT THE BLESSINGS OF PROGRESS. Is there any one
of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings which
give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress,
or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has
failed to establish its limits .... All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in
thought. Every one of them in hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license,
that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest ....
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>>2381624
PURE

COINCIDENCE

GOYIM
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>WE SHALL DESTROY THE CLERGY
2. WE HAVE LONG PAST TAKEN CARE TO DISCREDIT THE PRIESTHOOD OF "GOYIM," and
thereby to ruin their mission on earth which in these days might still be a great hindrance to us. Day by
day its influence on the peoples of the world is falling lower. FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE HAS BEEN
DECLARED EVERYWHERE, SO THAT NOW ONLY YEARS DIVIDE US FROM THE MOMENT OF
THE COMPLETE WRECKING OF THAT CHRISTIAN RELIGION: as to other religions we shall have
still less difficulty in dealing with them, but it would be premature to speak of this now. We shall act
clericalism and clericals into such narrow frames as to make their influence move in retrogressive
proportion to its former progress.
3. When the time comes finally to destroy the papal court the finger of an invisible hand will point
the nations towards this court. When, however, the nations fling themselves upon it, we shall come
forward in the guise of its defenders as if to save excessive bloodshed. By this diversion we shall
penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we shall never come out again until we have gnawed through
the entire strength of this place
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>>2381619
Again, vague nonsense. This universal war already happened during the seven years war.
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>>2381612
they didn't predict it, it was planned
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>>2381628
Why are you /pol/tards such uneducated morons?
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>>2381636
>>2381649
here comes the jidf

here's the protocols if anyone wants to read them

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/kidd/thesis/pdf/protocols.pdf
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>>2381640
Was Princip working for them?
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>>2381654
>Princip
who?
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>>2381651
More like a person with some knowledge about history.
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>>2381659
Have you ever read them?
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>>2381657
Just go back to /pol/.
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>>2381659
how do you know that person's knowledge of history is valid?
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>>2381665
after blue haired humanities dykes leave to le reddit
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>>2381654
I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in it. Get it? A hand? Hahaha
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>>2381664
Yes, but I also know something about anti-Semitic movements from 19th century and nothing about them is new or prophetic in any way.
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>>2381619
Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand by the Serbian terrorists Black Hand

America was also bought into the war to assist Britain with the Balfour Declaration.
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>>2381489

Pretty sure it is fake. It's realistic in the sense that very religious talmudic Jews DO believe in ideas like that and it is a good representation of the philosophy of those particular Jews, but they don't need that book since they have the talmud.

tl;dr: Book is bullshit as is the idea that all Jews support it, but Zionist Jews and extremely religious ones do believe in similar ideas as found in the Talmud.

If you want a real book about Jewish supremacy and how they see non-Jews, go read that.
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>>2381560
>Did you even read the Wikipedia article?

https://youtu.be/hMBramnCg_s
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>>2381691
You can't find the complete talmud in English anywhere online. That shit is locked down.

You can't even buy a copy really, a complete set is like $2000
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>>2381697

You can find a lot of it online. Sacredtexts has extracts from it in their Jewish section. A lot of it can be found online. Even the really fucked up stuff, so it isn't locked down at all. Nor would it have to be because really it's non-canonical rabbinic commentary on the Tanakh.
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>>2381709
You have any other links besides sacredtexts?
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>>2381681
Except USA declared war on Germany 7 months before Balfour Declaration.
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Yeah there is definitely something up with the Jews. Over 2000 years of "falsehoods" against jews. Something doesn't add up here
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>>2381719
Except the Balfour Declaration wasn't passed until the US entered war and the tides were turned.
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>>2381724
"If you go everywhere and it smells like shit, check under your shoe"
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>>2381724
Most of these accusations appeared during the industrial revolution. Before that they were accused of poisoning the wells, using magic, killing Christian children and similar things.
It's pretty much pure jealousy that Jews are so successful.
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>>2381713

Not really. Just google it. Tons of shit comes up. 99% of it is boring as fuck, though anyway. Just look up the messed up verses or good luck searching through tons of Jewish autism from rabbis saying what you can do on the sabbath, what days mean what, what you can do on said days, how to wash your hands, or other trivial shit.
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>>2381724
bro

literal jungle tribes kicked them out 2 years ago

>>2381739
t. jidf
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>>2381739
>using magic, killing Christian children
They did both of these though. Granted, it was a group of insane jewish cultist who would murder Christian children thinking they would go back to Palestine. But they did it non the less.
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>>2381730
What are you talking about? Do you even know what it was?
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>>2381745
That's crazy. They're still getting expelled ! Every tribe on earth is going to have to face the Jews and kick them out once before the end of the world.
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>>2381739
Yes yes goy, pure jealousy. No other reason.
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>>2381745
>literally still getting kicked out today
>by jungle mayans

oh but yes tell me how everyone else but jews are the problem
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>>2381739
No first "blood libel" claim is from 300bc. Plus all the cities the opened the gates to and the pillaging of Palestine during the persian campaign in 617 ad
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>>2381751
Apparently you don't
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>>2381763
Who passed it and when?
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>>2381767
Rothschild during World War 1
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>>2381745
>Somewhere, in the middle of the Central American rainforest a man in a loincloth and face paint is saying "Fucking Jews". Let that sink in.
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>>2381771
It was literally a letter, written few months after Americans joined the war.
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>>2381747
Killing Christians is encouraged in the Talmud

“Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
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>>2381790
I'm skeptical "killing everyone" is good policy. Unless your trying to say it was mainstream to kidnap and murder gentiles, we just don't know enough about it.
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>>2381790
What is the context of this? Also Wikipedia says it's not canonical.
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>>2381804
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/soferim-2
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>>2381814
>original english translation?

look for the versions that Ford helped get published. or you could just read pic related. but make sure you save as a .png

also read, "the jews and their lies" by luther

“If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control.
Why? Because it is the will of God, and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.”
(confirmed by an “attendee” during a debriefing).”
- Benjamin Netanyahu, 1990
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>>2381794
Talmud is a commentary to the Old Testament. It probably refers to some wars against Canaanites.
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>>2381833
The Canaanites didn't really do anything wrong you know. They simply inhabited a land, the jews came along and killed them all.

They'll do the same to anyone else. It's not like it was reserved for just cananites.
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>>2381826
There is nothing about this passage there. It just says it's non canonical.
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>>2381846
This is how the world looked back then. The Jews weren't the only ones.
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Hello.

I'd like to remind you that the jews hate Russia, and have had vengeance in their mind ever since the publication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in 1903.

"The only statement I care to make about The Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on.. They have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." -Henry Ford

There's a big reason they push animosity and conflict between the USA and Russia, because we're the only nations which have an actual chance of securing a foothold and creating a powerful enough coalition to resist the world-eaters we have dictating our lives today.

I'll also mention, that during the civil war, a conflict forced upon us by British Jews using their cousin's slaveholdings to push division and racial strife in America and to then justify inciting a civil war, the Russian Czar at the time, Alexander II, sent his entire fleet to the coast of the Union to prevent a combined French/British fleet from annihilating the USA and handing our republic over to Jewish slavers.

Do not fall for their schemes. They attempt to direct internal dissent into outward hostility.
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>>2381859
I'm so sick of jewish justification for being pieces of shit. It never ends.

A jew could eat a child on live television tomorrow and you fucking goalpost movers would find a way to defend it.
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>>2381859
>This is how the world looked back then.
you realize they're doing this in palestine right now? just slowly, because they can't kill them all outright even though they'd like to
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>>2381866
You just don't know history, anon. Remember, the Old Testament is part of the Bible. Your God wanted Israelis to succeed and kill the Canaanites.
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>>2381872
nah jewish trickery
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>>2381871
So? I don't support modern Israel's policy.
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>>2381872
Don't assume anyone is Christian. We have a lot of atheist, agnostics and neopagans. Most of whom are anti-christian as opposed to ambivalent.
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>>2381860
This animosity started after the WW2. You know, when Russia was allegedly ruled by Jewish communists.
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And now for your guided tour in how not to moderate a thread.

>>2381519
>predicted minimum wage
>>2381551
>already existed slowpokehistory.png
>>2381568
>a-also world wars
>>2381585
>how?
>>2381590
>READ A BOOK NIGGER
>>2381606
>how? did they control the crown too?
>>2381610
>THE SKY IS BLUE DEAL WITH IT
>>2381624
>did they predict fascism? would be pretty good prophecy if they did?
>>2381628
>OH MY GOD WAKE UP SHEEPLE

Anon asks for evidence and the obvious /pol/tard calls him a deluded moron. Since /pol/tard is refusing to provide the "high level of discourse" expected of him, this constitutes acting in bad faith, and it is also called breaking Global Rule #3. And what do you know the entire rest of the thread is like this...

I'd report this but I'd get banned for bothering the mod sympathetic to rule breakers.
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>>2381879
you on jews genociding caanities: "it was different back then"

you on jews genociding palestinians: "so what?"

I guess you don't care what hitler did to the jews either then....but something tells me you might :^)
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>Therefore a Christian should be content and not
argue with the Jews. But if you have to or
want to talk with them, do not say any more than this: "Listen, Jew, are you aware that Jerusalem
and your sovereignty, together with your temple
and priesthood, have been destroyed for over
1,460 years?" For this year, which we Christians write as the year 1542 since the birth of Christ,
is exactly 1,468 years, going on fifteen hundred years, since Vespasian and Titus destroyed
Jerusalem and expelled the Jews from the city. Let the Jews bite on this nut and dispute this
question as long as they wish.

holy shit martin luther was a savage
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>>2381889
Its history, just because you don't like it in it doesn't mean you have to silence discussion about it

where does this culture of reporting and worshipping mods come from anyway?
sjw
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>>2381891
They aren't genociding Palestinians. And comparing modern Israel to the Nazis is ridiculous.
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>>2381906
Tumblr. Its one of their tactics
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>>2381907
If jews genociding palestinians and caanities is okay then it's okay when hitler genocides jews.

It's only fair in your book.
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>>2381906
It's not history, it's /pol/'s delusions and lack of knowledge of history.
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>>2381906
>one anon asking for evidence and the other calling him a sheeple is a """"""""""discussion""""""""""

kys
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>>2381915
nobody said sheeple in this thread before you showed up Mr. Strawman builder
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>>2381912
No. Different times, different morals. You can't compare modern world to the ancient one.
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>>2381907
>comparing modern Israel to the Nazis is ridiculous.

Oh let's see, Jews are not Nazis despite some similarities:


>Aquiring the Lebensraum and populating it egarly
Check.
>Warsaw ghetto like human prison created
Check.
>Supression, torture and jailing of the Sweinefolk (lower palestinian race)
Check.
>Eugenetics to preserve and enhance the master race
Check.
>Nationalistic religion that sets jewish people as the chosen race
Check.
>Invading wars on neigbouring countries
>Check.
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>>2381489

It's a forgery, because it was based on the work "The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu", written in 1864 as a satire against Napoleon III.
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>>2381929
>You can't compare modern world to the ancient one.

I just did though. Who cares if hitler killed jews? Jews are genociding palestinians in the modern world.
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>>2381914
whatever you think about protocol of zion it is a historic document and there's nothing rule breaking by talking about it

if you don't agree with posters discuss, don't ban and silence people

>its not free speech, its hate speech
thats what you're sounding like now, like an sjw
both are one and the same, misunderstanding of history is by your perception is still discussion of history by others perspective, you just can't accept differing opinions
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>>2381939
And yet their population increases. They are pretty bad at this genocide thing.
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>>2381933
Screencapped
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>>2381951
>sjw

Yes, yes, we get it only liberals are biased and want to silence opinion. People who provide no evidence when asked are being """"neutral"""
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>>2381951
Except this thread has very little to do with history. It's a forgery, what else you want to know?
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>>2381984
>It's a forgery

on what accounts? that was the entire point of the thread
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>>2381984
its a thread about historical document / forgery, whichever side you believe in
still history
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>>2381991
Read the article on Wikipedia. It's a better source than stormfront.
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>>2381997
wikipedia simply repeats its a forgery without any evidence either. and the accounts they give sound like the arguments people make when they try and disprove gravity and evolution
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>>2381997
>
>>2381695
>>2381778
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>>2381992
>side
I like how you consider it to be equal. There is a historian side based on studies and research and a neo-nazi propaganda side based on anti-Semitism and conspiracy theories.
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>>2382005
Except it literally shows similarities between the protocols and the original text.
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>>2382013
The JIDF has arrived
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>>2381997
>Bolshewikipedia
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>>2382015
I've read the "refutation"

>the protocols use the word "vishnu"
>some other book uses the word "vishnu"

>therefore literally everything else is fake

its almost, ALMOST syllogism tier
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It used Vishnu in the exact same context. It also repeats the same numbers as the earlier text.
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>>2382004
>>2382005
>>2382018
>>2382019
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>>2382023
No, not really.
Original:
>How are loans made? By the issue of bonds entailing on the Government the obligation to pay interest proportionate to the capital it has been paid. Thus, if a loan is at 5%, the State, after 20 years, has paid out a sum equal to the borrowed capital. When 40 years have expired it has paid double, after 60 years triple: yet it remains debtor for the entire capital sum.
Protocols:
>A loan is an issue of Government paper which entails an obligation to pay interest amounting to a percentage of the total sum of the borrowed money. If a loan is at 5%, then in 20 years the Government would have unnecessarily paid out a sum equal to that of the loan in order to cover the percentage. In 40 years it will have paid twice; and in 60 thrice that amount, but the loan will still remain as an unpaid debt.
It's pretty obvious plagiarism friendo. But I doubt you'd ever change your mind, no matter what the evidence.
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>>2382026
their weakest shills are out tonight
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>>2382035
So how does this disprove literally the rest of the document and how does this tell us that the writers of the protocols didn't plagiarize that without care since the document wasn't supposed to be read by the public
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>>2382035
Where's the original claim from?
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>>2382036
>youtube
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Go pretend to be victims elsewhere.
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>>2382047
turn it into what, it jumps from anarchists to nazis. all's well as long as we're still free to remind everyone they're idiots
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>>2382043
A French political satire titled Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu ou la politique de Machiavel au XIXe siècle
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>>2382046
Not an argument
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>>2382057
>ITS AN ARGUMENT WHEN WE DO IT
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>>2382055
So a French document plagiarized into a Russian document turns out to be word to word when translating it into English. Makes sense.
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>>2382041
There are plenty of other examples: here is an article that lists a bunch: http://rense.com/general45/proto.htm
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>>2382061
>word to word
Are you illiterate? It's not word for word.
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>>2382061
I've never thought about it like this
the forgery argument holds less water the more you dig into it
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>>2382068
>changes a few word to synonyms

It's not word for word goy! It's original!!!! Wait hold on, it's not original!!!! It's forgery!

So is it forgery or not?
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>>2382061
>>2382069
Did you retards even read the post? Look at it again. >>2382035
It's not word to word, but the content and numbers are identical. This is consistent with plagiarism from one language to another: the context stays the same, but of course the grammatical structure alters somewhat with change from language to another.
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>>2382091

Somebody's mad
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>>2382082
Do you not know how translation works?
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>>2382098
I do. Apparently you don't.
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>>2382098
Saying that the entirety of the protocols is a forgery because one paragraph out of hundreds is a really weak argument and I don't think anybody but JIDF believes it
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>>2382097
Not an argument
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>>2382104
Good, I wasn't trying to argue with you. I was calling you a faggot, which you are
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>>2382104
>ITS AN ARGUMENT WHEN WE DO IT
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>>2382101
Okay so you agree that passage is clearly consistent with plagiarism from one language to another? Glad we cleared up.
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>>2382103
It's only one example of many, see more here and on the Wiki: http://rense.com/general45/proto.htm
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>>2382107
You seem angry
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>>2382112
>one language to another?

That's where you're wrong.
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>>2382116
You seem upset
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>>2382118
No u
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>>2382117
Prove it then
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>>2382035
the translations don't really matter, actions should speak for themselves and so far the protocols were guide to establishing israel and jewish dominance in the west
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>>2381724
It's like all those blood liberals appearing from everywhere, from Spain to Ukraine, from Germany to Syria.

Surely it must be just anti-semitism, not Jewish behavior that caused this.
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>>2382129
Pretty much this, arguing whether or not it's real or not (it is real) is pointless when everything they've said has came true
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>>2382133
Everything in my horoscope always comes true too
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>>2382133
And is it not real, when everything in the book has came true?

Is that not the definition of "real," manifesting in reality?
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>>2382138
>>2382138
Your horoscope isn't a minutely detailed plan for the domination and fall of western civilization with specifics

Comparing the protocols to a horoscope is like comparing a blueprint to a macaroni picture
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>huge secret Jewish conspiracy has worldwide influence and started world wars and shit
>only a group of enlightened anons on a taiwanese picture site knows the truth
>they are relentlessly attacked by hordes of trained and paid Jewish shills sent by the conspiracy
Seems legit.
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>>2382146
>Your horoscope isn't a minutely detailed plan for the domination and fall of western civilization with specifics
Neither are the Protocols
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>>2382152
Then you haven't read them, and the only reason you're defending them is because you are a shill, who has been shilling in this entire thread.
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>>2382151
not the guys you're replying to but shills are real, pol is literally where altright was born, its quite influential
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>>2382151
>sent by the conspiracy
kek what the fuck
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>>2382172
wew
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>>2382167
I just started posted, and I have read them and there is nothing particularly detailed in there. Look at this very thread: one of the big points the anons have brought is that someone saying there will be a big world war means they "predicted" WWI and WWII. Pretty weak stuff.
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>>2382146
>detailed
It's literally all just generalizations. no actual minute details and plans of what action they were going to take. it doesn't read like the actual meeting of Jews in the inner circle already in the know. it reads as though it is trying to explain it to someone not already in on the conspiracy. there's no "Alright, Rabbi so and so has a meeting with Lenin at 2" only broad generalizations of what they will do in the future and for some damn reason what they did in the past, which all of these elders of zion at the heart of the conspiracy should already be very familiar with.
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>>2382185
>It's literally all just generalizations
Then you haven't read it and you're just shitposting

go read it
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>>2381510
here

>>2381831
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>>2382185
Not to mention, if you were some super secretive conspiracy why would you fucking write it all down? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdGOrcUEg8
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The way this works is that by getting people to believe it it necessarily makes it true.
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>>2382167

>make vague predictions about bad shit that apply to nearly every civilization regardless of whether or not Jews were there

>thinks this means it is a highly detailed plan and idea rather than propaganda

The sad part is that I actually have to say this when it should be obvious. For starters, this isn't exclusive to Jews.

Secondly, Jewish supremacist ideals do exist in the Talmud and other works, and even exist in groups to this day. But apparently you're an illiterate retard who can't do that research and find a plethora of real things and have to cling to ripped off propaganda. I won't even say go back to /pol/. Get the fuck >>>/out/ or go to >>>/b/
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>>2382187
What specific "minute details" are there?
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>>2381933
>Returning to ancient land
>Keeping the people that want to murder them away from them
>le ebin koolaid
>Lel no
>Yeah this one is true
>after being attacked by actual armies not prisoners in uniforms
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>>2381489
>Where is the actual proof that the Protocols of Zion is a forgery?
That's not where burden of proof lies, the real question would be whatever its real.

There is no proof it is and to everyone with a bit of common sense it is rather obvious.
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>>2382172
Isn't /pol/ also where Pizzagate was born?

Because poltards claiming Hillary Clinton is running a paedophile cannibalistic satanist sex ring in a pizzeria secret basement didn't do much for their credibilty.
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>>2382205
>>2382211
>it's vague predictions meme

For all of the anons who want to read it themselves and form their own opinion, you can read it for yourself here >>2381831, pay these jewish shills no mind
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>>2382187
I have though. not a very thorough read I'll admit, just out of curiosity on a whim. point to me any passage I could have forgotten that sounds like the bland information that organizations actually have to discuss, like the example I gave. give me something along the lines of meeting planning or whatever.
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>>2382214
>Lel no

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent.

Nice eugenics m8
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>>2382217
The fact that you can't even point to one specific detail is certainly telling
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>>2382221
Nigger you won't even read it, this would be like if you were claiming a physics textbook had no math, then I gave you a physics textbook and you said "lol, I don't see anything"

You are blind and you are also a dirty jew
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>>2382221
>spoonfeed me
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>>2382226
>Nigger you won't even read it
NIGGER YOU WON'T CITE A SINGLE LINE

>I gave you a physics textbook and you said "lol, I don't see anything"
No you retard he's asking you for an in-text citation and you're telling him to go read the whole fucking pamphlet.
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>>2382235
>spoonfeed me even though he just linked the document in a nice pdf format
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>>2382235
>w-why won't anon spoonfeed me

>>>/leddit/
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>>2382217

Nigger, did you really call me a Jew when I said the Talmud and other actual Jewish writings had Jewish supremacist beliefs? You must be trolling. Saying your shitty ripped off propaganda is fake and then giving you authentic Jewish works in which to find these ideas makes me a Jew?


Lol, you fucking moron. Neck yourself.
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>>2381833
>Talmud is a commentary to the Old Testament
REEEEEEEE

Talmud = Mishnah + Gemara (Mishnah commentary).

Commentary on the Torah = Midrash
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>>2381790
>Soferim
That's a non-canonical and controversial text. It doesn't belong in the Talmud proper.
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>>2381489
It's almost identical to a novel about Napoleon III
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>>2382238
>>2382237
I guess this is admitting defeat
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>>2382239
>>2382235
>>2382255
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>>2381489
Because we know exactly who wrote the thing. This guy in the picture. His name is Mathieu Golovinski, a French-Russian Okhrana (Russian secret police) operative.
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>>2382237
>>2382238
It's all vague bullshit, though. Why do you expect people to waste time reading the whole poop?
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>>2382237
>>2382238
>haha wow you sure are a dumb piece of shit for taking the reading list of someone who can't even paraphrase key premises they're endorsing
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>>2382256
You're the one worshiping the kike god
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>it's another /pol/ gets BTFO episode
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>>2382256

>The Protocols are propaganda, but here are some sources like the Talmud that do show some Jewish supremacist beliefs. Here are some real life and undisputable facts that support your point.

>le ur a jew le jew.jpg whos behind this post? XD ur a jew 4 sayin the orotocols r fek u r a jewish jewmaster jew

This is pathetic and you are truly subhuman. I gave you sources that are real and not bullshit like the Protocols, discuss similar shit, and support your point and I'm a Jew? This has to be a new low in retardation. Even for 4chan.
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>>2382284
>it's a leftypol shitposts episode
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>>2382297
know your place uppity nig
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>>2382301
can't lick your wounds quietly I see
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>>2382310
That's lamer than I know you are but what am I
>>
>>2382343
It's funny because the post he was replying to was basically I know you are but what am i
>>
>>2381906
>sjw

Every time I see this I think it stands for single Jewish woman
>>
fantastic thread fellas. a lively & thorough discussion between intellectual heavyweights
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>>2381681
>black hand
You've got F. It's actually a member of Mlada Bosna with the aid of a furry angel thingy. Black Hand is the responsible for the death of Alexsander Obrenovic.
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>>2382364
It's only with excellent contributions like yours that this is possible
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>>2382364

>adds nothing to the conversation
>>
Go back to your containment board, retards.
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Really fries my omelet.
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>>2382373

What's you problem?

He was congratulating everyone on the fine quality of the thread.
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>>2382359
>>2382368
5 shekels has been deposited to your account
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>>2382401
>wrongs suffered by Jewish people shall be righted
>opportunity for Jews everywhere to make a distinctive and constructive contribution
>will have freedom and full equality before the law with every other citizen
>freedom and emancipation for the Jewish people [is] tied up with emancipation and freedom for people everywhere

WOW! This is the new world order? All that talk of freedom sounds great. What is the problem? Jews having freedom too?
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>>2382428
>What is the problem?

Zionism.
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it plagiarised parts from this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dialogue_in_Hell_Between_Machiavelli_and_Montesquieu

>the future course of the Snake is not shown on this map, but arrows indicate its next movement towards Moscow, Kiev, and Odessa. It is now well know to us to what extent the latter cities form the centers of the militant JEWISH RACE. Constantinople is shown as the last of the Snake's course before it reaches Jerusalem.
this is very ambiguous, it is written like a horoscope, anyone can predict that something bad will happen in Russia

like all conspiracy theories it hinges on confirmation bias, for example if there is 1 executive with a jewish grandparent in a company they can claim jews are 100% in charge of that company
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>>2382438
Well, at least its still better than Hitler's new world order.
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>>2382050
the only person silencing the opposition here is you, shit flooding this thread with memes when someone disagrees.
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Can someone explain me why would jewish elities support communism ? I think if sucesfull communist revolution hapenned in countries where they have factories and other things they would end up like workers in them.

Its plagiatory make for purpose to rise anti-semitic tendencies in Russia and also harm communist and anarchist in the eyes of russian proletariat throught this. Its easy blame living condition and economical problem on some conspiracies. It was made really fast and dont well similarity with original text is obvious.

But Its hilarious on itself. That some jews meeting up at cemetary and making up planes to dominate world. I guess it was not in the time when people believe they practice magic and eat children.
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>>2381871


WHY do they red to do it slowly?I thought teh joos controlled the entire world.
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>>2382444
Sometimes I wonder.
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>>2382438

I suppose the USA has never got any of its allies involved in useless wars, stolen any of their military secrets, spied on them or killed them in friendly fire incidents. No siree, it's just the Jooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!
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>>2382438
Literally not a peep in the NYT article about Zionism.
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>>2382461
It's all part of the same plan.
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>>2382259
>It's all vague bullshit, though.
It's like the retards who read nostradamus and claim he predicted everything. Not really surprising, since most /pol/tards in /his/ are fundamentalist christian larpers who probably do the latter too.
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>>2382453
to keep face with their neighbours and the west
jews are sly like that
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>>2382468

Lots of reasons for the Iraq War have been out forward.

The truth is that the main reason is that after 9/11 the US public simply wanted to kill a bunch of Arabs.
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>>2382468
>nothing connecting the dots between the 1940 article and 2000s neocon selfishness
>MUST BE ZIONISM

No.
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>>2382484
>jews do something bad
>conspiracy confirmed!
>jews don't do something bad
>it's just to keep face, conspiracy confirmed!
Ebin.
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>>2382484

But they apparently own their neighbours and the west. Why would they need to save face?
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>>2382487
Funny you should mention 9/11.
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>>2382493
So underage on a Indonesian picture page will not use their shitty Macs to make ebin memes exposing the whole conspiracy that has been in the works for decades in not centuries, of course.
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>>2382495
Are you unable to post anything other than /pol/ infopics and memes? Is your entire understanding of the world based on those?
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>>2382503
How about court documents?
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>>2382495
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>>2382495
>classified
>COINCIDENCE says /pol/
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>>2382506
xddd
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>>2382487
The reason they attack Iraq instead Saudi Arabia is because Iraq pose as threat to Israel, they don't attack Saudis and gulfs because they're Israel allies, even though the terrorist comes from there in the first place

Its the same thing that they trying to do with Syria and Iran right now
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>>2382512
Trying to understand how /pol/tard mind works. Suppose you come across that pic. Do you bother checking whether the article is true of false? Do you bother checking how common trademarking a date is?
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>>2382512

I'm not sure what you think that proves. It's no worse than this...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1358985/Sept-11-a-good-day-to-bury-bad-news.html
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To OP and everyone else who believes the Protocols are legit: Is there any evidence you would accept as a refutation or counter-point to the hypothesis put forward in the Protocols?
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>>2382527
Wait, I just read that it says "as the twin towes were still smoldering". So the image literally means shit, I thought you were implying he knew it would happen.
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>>2382521

Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US including buying large amounts of weaponry from it and an attack on Saudi Arabia would have crashed the entire world's economy by fucking up the oil supply.

It was never under consideration for attack and not just because of "muh Israel".
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>>2382527
fact check it yourself
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>>2382547
don't pretend that Israeli lobby doesn't have strong influence on US politics, conspiracy aside, AIPAC is very influential,they're the reason why we're having proxy war against Assad and Iran now, they're the very reason why we're involved in ME mess in the first place
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>>2382559
really jogs the noggin
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>>2382550
From what I could gather from the document, a bunch of illegally employed israelis were arrested for a traffic violation, and expressed to be happy that america would understand israel's struggle. Nothing in the posts in the middle seem to be actually derived from the document.
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>>2382559

The Israeli lobby certainly is very powerful in the USA, but that's a different conversation than spinning bizarre antisemitic conspiracy theories or thinking literally everything the US does is because of "muh Israel".
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>>2381860
>on /his/
>absolutely no knowledge of even basic American history

umm get out?
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>>2382559
The US doesn't need jews to tell them to stick their nose in global affairs and try to take down their adversaries since they decided to be an empire after WW2
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In what sense should this be legit? As in the meeting actually happening?
The whole thing was actually lifted from Biarritz, a novel by a guy Goedsche who plagiarized the dialogue, I think.
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>>2381739
>they were accused of poisoning the wells, using magic, killing Christian children and similar things
As far as i've read, scamming and money theft seemed to be a big one, particularly under Charles VI
>pure jealousy that Jews are so successful.
but they weren't. where does this meme come from? in fact they never really could be and were often secluded into their own communities, which were usually poor or meager.
>>
Also, read The Prague Cemetery by Eco, if you like /his/ fiction. It's about the creation of the Protocols. Protagonist is /pol/ incarnate. Hates jews because girl didn't talk to him.
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I thought that I was on /his/ ,not fucking /pol/.
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>>2381489
I read it. It reads like ravings of a Russian monarchist, who is buttblasted because of changes brought about by capitalism, industry and urbanization. He just can't accept that his country isn't a tzar-loving feudal shithole anymore.
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>>2383019

/his/ is /pol/ with dates, when it's not too busy being /int/ with dates or /b/ with dates.
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>>2381489
It's all in the Wikipedia page.

The fact you keep asking even though it's explained why it's fake just shows how dishonesty you are being and that you are either too ignorant to type in Google or you are a shill.
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https://geopolitics.co/2015/04/08/the-rothschilds-are-jesuits/

It's the Jesuits, not the Jews.

Jews are used as a scapegoat, a red herring to avoid attention to the real controllers of the world.

JESUITS HAVE BEEN EXPELLED FROM ALMOST EVERY NATION AND STATE IN THE WORLD.

JESUITS USE DECEPTION, MURDER, TORTURE AND EVERY CONCEIVABLE METHOD TO FURTHER THEIR GOALS.

JESUITS KILLED ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND JFK.

Jesuits are the army of the Vatican, the Antichrist beast system, the Whore of Babylon.

Rothschild means "red shield", they work for the Vatican.
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>People actually wonder why HENRY FORD of all people would publish a work where Jews conspire to introduce minimum wage

lmao, really makes me think, neo-nazis are so dumb
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The book is retarded. Apparently, feudal absolute monarchy is the perfect form of government, while democracy, constitution and capitalism are all Jewish inventions and should be abolished. Fuck this shit.
Also, the so-called predictions are crap. According to the book, the European people were supposed to get poorer with time, with famine and poverty everywhere, until finally their suffering gets so unbearable, that they vote to establish the Jewish kingdom, which will be an absolute monarchy. Nothing like this happened.
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>>2383076

Don't forget the part where if their plans fail, they have trains stuffed with explosives ready to blow up every major city in the world buried in forgotten subways.
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>>2383086
Oh yeah, how could I forget about it!
>in the world buried in forgotten subways
Not just forgotten subways. All subways. SUBWAYS ARE A JEWISH PLOT!
P.S. This is just another proof, that Protocols are a work of Russian nationalists. The construction of subways in the Russian Empire was cancelled because of the resistance of religious nuts. Cuz subways are really close to hell and people may, you know, get posessed by demons.
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>>2382459
You might have a point if the US got something out of it's alliance with israel that was actually worth all the bullshit they cause. The protocols being a forgery and jews not actually drinking the blood of goyim babies does not actually mean the jews are actually worth half a damn either.
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>>2383076
>>2383090
>>2383118
Don't even bother, those alt-right mouthbreathers would rather believe in this nonsense to justify their paranoia.
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>>2383118
>subways are close to hell.
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>>2383193
Them being a stable foothold in the middle east that is aligned to the west is reason enough.
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>>2381519
>the workers haven't benefited
you're delusional if you think that the working class in 1900 had it better than it does today
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>>2383207
>>stable foothold
Ahahahahahaahahahahaha.

No, not for much longer, not with their demographics.
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>>2382198
Hebrew was only used by rabbis when the book was published.
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Why, their Talmud and their rabbis record that it is no sin for a Jew to kill a Gentile, but it
is only a sin for him to kill a brother Israelite. Nor is it a sin for a Jew to break his oath to a
Gentile. Likewise, they say that it is rendering God a service to steal or rob from a Goy, as they in
fact do through their usury. For since they believe that they are the noble blood and the
circumcised saints and we the accursed Goyim, they cannot treat us too harshly or commit sin
against us, for they are the lords of the world and we are their servants, yes, their cattle.

- Martin Luther, 1543
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>>2382452
The inner party does not suffer under communism. More equal than others, and all that.
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