Mesopotamia / Ancient world general

>>2281613
bump

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bump it

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b u m p

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bumped

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B U M P
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>>>/b/

islam
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usa

>>2281613
Arab colonization.

Savages always seem to take over a high civilization eventually...

>>2281651
huh, the iranians are the true evil then

>>2281613
Foreign powers keep trying to control clay that isn't theirs.

Locals get pissed off and tell them to fuck off.

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this isn't /b/

>>2281651
>What's baghdad

>>2281659
Triggered Sunni

>>2281613
It's a very rich and fertile land on a flat alluvial plane surrounded by warlike nomadic tribes. Makes a very easy and tempting target for invasion

Just look at all the hordes that have invaded Iraq in the past

>persians
>macedonians
>Romans
>turks
>mongols
>Persians and Turks again
>English
>Americans
>ISIS

Iraq is naturally difficult to defend and is very tempting for any conqueror whether it's Timorlang or George Bush

>>2281613
>what went wrong?
Everything

>>2282280
Well Mesopotamia is pretty much the JUST region of earth. All the Seas make it so there's 5 different routes directing anyone in there. It's a fucking cross section for any empire builder.

Soil salinization. The same irrigation methods that early Mesopotamians used to flourish are what ultimately doomed them. Salt buildup rendered large swathes of the Tigris and Euphrates floodplains unworkable as farmland, and they remain so to this day. Massive drop in agricultural productivity = drop in population = fragmented and isolated city states and kingdoms ripe for conquest by roaming nomadic hoards.

All other answers are memes and should be disregarded.

>>2282402
This. It got fucked over by being in middle of everything.
Also Muslim civilization was the biggest rival to Christian civilization. So when Christians became the most powerful civilization on the world, it fucked them over not only physically, but also mentally, which sticked with them until this day.

>>2282481
The mental factor is the biggest one

>>2281613
>Now it's full of terrorists
what do you think it was like back then, 1950s suburban USA? it was merciless tyrants, slavery, wars, rebellions , barbarian desert nomad invasions, genocides, human sacrifice to the gods etc.

perpetual war and violence

todays middle east is child's play

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retard

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>>2281613
>This is where civilization began

No, Anatolia and the Black Sea region is where it began. The taming of the land (grasses) and beast (Bull) is the beginning of civilization.

>>2282857
no and you know it is not true

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>>2283162

NOT AN ARGUMENT

>>2281613
>"terrorists"
You're really not exactly open to an in-depth answer, are you?