Why do frogs get so triggered by seeing rightful german clay?

>>2073170
>Rightful German clay
>Owned by France since before the concept of a united Germany existed

>>2073170
>Alsace get "liberated" in 1870
>they get treated like second class citizens by the new Reich
I don't get it. Germany ignored Bismarck's opinion on AL and they couldn'teven bother to treat Alsacians like proper Germans.

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>>2073170
>rightful clay
>>>/int/

>>2073170
Germans don't have their own rightful borders.

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Alsace-Lorraine was formerly owed by Lothringen, and therefore at its dissolution, both West Francia and East Francia could contend for its ownership.
Germans are butthurt that the french did so at the peace of Westphalia.

>>2073567
>Charles the Bald
That's one badass nickname. You just know he didn't give a fuck.

>>2073567
>What kinda Frankish empire you want famm
>JUST

>>2073567

Does this mean all German claims beyond the Elbe are illegitimate?

>>2073455

It was part of the HRE, which even contemporaries often just called the German Empire.

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>>2073579
Yes

>>2073567
Elzas-Lotharingen is Dutch clay.

>>2073592
>still buying into the french karl der grosse meme

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>>2073455
>implying

>rightful german clay

whatever helps you sleep at night Hans

>>2073631
I wish the Dutch would annex America already. What are you waiting for?

>>2073584
I though it was Roman.

>>2073543
Why are you posting spoilers?

>>2073574
Anyways,
>"It has been suggested that Charles' nickname was used ironically and not descriptively; i.e. that he was not in fact bald, but rather that he was extremely hairy.[6] An alternative or additional interpretation is based on Charles' initial lack of a regnum. "Bald" would in this case be a tongue-in-cheek reference to his landlessness, at an age where his brothers already had been sub-kings for some years.[7]
>Contemporary depictions of his person, e.g. in his Bible of 845, on his seal of 847 (as king) as well as on his seal of 875 (as emperor) show him with a full head of hair, as does the equestrian statuette (c. 870) thought to depict him."

>>2073170
The Rhine is the natural border between Frogland and Krautland.

Prove me me wrong.

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>>2075579
This ethnic map proves you wrong.

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>>2073543
Don't post spoilers.

>>2074773
>implying German has any claim on the HRE when Germany was unified under Prussia. God, and this is a history board.

>>2073584
that's a blatant lie

>>2075613
Alsacien are german, we swear it, even when they consider themself not german and hate us and our prodie heresy.

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>>2073543
>>2075017
>>2075616


>mfw just finished watching yesterday
>not spoilers

phew

>>2075613

not the anon you are replying to but

this map is biased

>>2073489
They weren't proper Germans, they were French oppressed under the Germanic heel