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Why is xenophobia bad?

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Why is xenophobia bad?
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God damn it /pol/
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>>1944475
Reasonable xenophobia is good, for example the are valid reason to hate islam/muslims.

Hating everything foreign per se is just retarded though.
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>>1944539
>>>/pol/
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>>1944545
>>>/cuckshed/
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>>1944549
>>>/b/
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>>1944475
>Why is xenophobia bad?
I think it is reasonable to want to protect your ingroup.

What I will never understand is people who are xenophobic about genetics (nature) instead of culture (nurture). To some extent I can see why one would want to preserve kinship, but for me what really matters is culture.

This topic would probably end up in shit.
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>>1944561
>What I will never understand is people who are xenophobic about genetics (nature) instead of culture (nurture)
genes and culture are related; a culture grows out of a certain genetic heritage

genes>culture
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>>1944595
Explain Jews then.
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>>1944595
This is not to say that genes are uninvolved in human behavior. Every aspect of a person’s phenome is a product of interaction between genome and environment, but cultural and genetic evolution are entirely different. It takes a few generations for a person to fully assimilate into a new culture.
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>>1944539
>for example the are valid reason to hate islam/muslims
Why do so many people seem to think this. Why would an individual be guilty until proven innocent just due to a religion or culture they're a part of?
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>>1944613
Being black or Asian it's something you can't help, but being a muslim is a conscious choice, meaning you align yourself with islamic cultural values. Either that or you're just pretending to be a muslim.
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>>1944621
True, but why do Muslims get a worse rap than anyone else? In board terms, looking at all of history, Islam and Christianity are both basically the same degree of bad when you're looking at the worst examples of both.
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>>1944621
>2016
>being actually religious
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>>1944613
You're replying to /pol/. They have no logic. It's just following the heard.
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>>1944632
Probably because the propaganda in their country wants them to think they're bad. They associate western funded terrorist groups as Muslims even though they're over there killing Muslims, bombing mosques, etc.

We in Russia don't care for Arabs and their shitty personalities, but there's nothing wrong with Muslims. That's why were fighting for them and against your puppet terrorists from Saudi Arabia.
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>>1944632
Yeah those damn radical Christian terrorists, flying planes into building, driving trucks into crowds of people, murdering people who dare to draw pictures of Jesus, all in the 21st century. Those barbarians has to go back to the medieval ages
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>>1944660
I made a point of saying all of history. Radical Christianity these days isn't as bad as radical Islam, but in times past people did some pretty awful shit in the name of God and the church.
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>>1944660
what about abortion clinic bombings?
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>>1944613
I think there's a lot of different xenophobias. A rainbow, if you will.
I'm personally not offended by an individual Muslim. In fact, I actually had good talks with one in one of my classes this semester.
However, Muslims, as a block, are a danger to the West.
At some level, anyone who isn't us is an enemy.
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>>1944475
>let's kill this group of people
Wonder why?
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>>1944660
I'm assuming the Central African Republic terrorist groups, the NLFT and NSCN groups in India, or the Unganda Christian groups using child soldiers and sex slaves don't show up on your Christian news networks in your country I bet. Or all of the bombings and terror attacks on abortion clinics and LGBT clubs in America during the 80s and 90s. Or in 2011, the Hutaree Christian militia movement possessed more weapons than the combined weapons holdings of all Islamic terror defendants charged in the US since the September 11 attacks. Or all of the murders that happen to this day at abortion clinics by Christian people claiming they're doing God's work.

Your emotions are so controlled by your government and media. If you exclude terrorist attacks of "Muslims" bombing and killing Muslims in the Middle East, the majority of terrorist attacks are committed by non-Muslims. Being Russian, I thought America was a great country, but once I got old enough to be on the internet and realized how brainwashed you all are, I've done nothing but feel bad for you.
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>>1944632
That's a meme. Muslims cause extreme tensions and war wherever they go. Europe, Africa, India, Myanmar, Philippines, fucking everywhere. Christians are nowhere near as bad, you don't hear about radical Christians blowing themselves up in Iraq or some shit.
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>>1944682
>us
I miss 4chan before the idpol.
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>>1944697
Islam was founded around 600 years after Christianity. It's going to take them a while to catch up.

And yes, Christians did cause extreme tensions and wars and genocide with pagans and fucking everywhere. And like Muslims, Christians used to try and blow each other up, fight stupid wars, and no one liked the sola scriptura no fun allowed all women must wear bonnet puritans.
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>>1944697
Correct, not Iraq. But see >>1944687

Plus, Christians also caused tensions and wars when they were going to other places. See Japan, China, northern Germany around the time of Charlemagne

Seriously, China had an entire civil war due to radical Christians in their country combined with destabilization caused by Christian Europeans
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>>1944475
Practicing empathy and understanding on all people can be tremendously benefiting. Doesn't mean having to agree with them, but it's very informative on what kind of a world we live in.

I feel that a baseless predisposition based on principle can offer less than learning to dislike some people.
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>>1944697
>you don't hear

That doesn't mean it isn't happening in Uganda, India, Africa, etc. You only hear and believe what your favorite news network wants to tell you.
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>>1944687
>uncivilized people in Africa and India killing each other over some bullshit
big fucking deal

I'm not American by the way and in no way support American Christian terrorists as well
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>>1944718
NLFT rapes people as intimidation to convert to Christianity. They burned a Hindu priest alive. They've committed ethnic cleansing of non-Christian tribes killing thousands. And there's nothing wrong with allowing these people in your country because they aren't Muslim?
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>>1944709
>Hutaree militia
>relevant

Those retards literally dindu nuffin.

Is it a coincidence that BOTH the largest mass shooting and the deadliest bombing terrorist attack in US history was done by muslims despite muslims being like 1% of Americans?
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>>1944668
Yeah but christian values and western society changed
Until muslim values change there is nothing they can do to stop people from hating them
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>>1944728
>Is it a coincidence that BOTH the largest mass shooting and the deadliest bombing terrorist attack in US history was done by muslims despite muslims being like 1% of Americans?
No, but it's not an inherent problem with Muslims. There's a lot of reasons for what you said there, including American meddling in the Middle East, which is extremely Muslim.

Thinking it's a thing about just Islam and not something more complex is juvenile.
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>>1944613
It's a system of belief and behavior: one that can be adopted or abandoned. It's not melanin in your skin or your a style of music.
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>>1944727
I don't want any non-European peoples anywhere in Europe, regardless of their religion.
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>>1944731
I generally promote the secularization of societies, but the CIA and petrodollar capitalists have other plans.

Islam can be secularized much more quickly than Christianity was secularized. Middle East during the "Islamic" golden age was more secular than Europe during the Dark Ages. Then shit came back to Europe and there was the enlightenment. After that Europe started being at the forefront of civilization.

Secularization seems to be the result of exposure to technology, worldly stuff, and free and non-dogmatic thought. Islam can be secularized quickly because technology exists, worldly consumer goods exist, philosophy exists. We're not exploring new waters here. Muslims just need more exposure to the stuff.
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>>1944738
t. neanderthal

homo go home
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>>1944728
>>1944728
>>1944728
Measuring the U.S. Muslim population is an inexact science, since census data doesn't track religion.

Muslims haven't even accounted for 1% of murders since 9/11. Of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database since 1970, approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims. Political extremism is the biggest terrorist threat in our country. Over a third of terrorist attacks were committed by separatist groups that are against these minority groups that they believe cause the terrorism, when it's actually them.

If you are scared of somebody because of their religion because your favorite journalist says so, you need to get over yourself.
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>>1944738
You're about a few thousand years too late on that wish anon. Your entire continent is centuries of race mixing.
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>>1944752
Were the 9/11 hijackers even American? I would think you would categorize 9/11 as the work of foreign agents rather than Muslim Americans.
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>>1944758
They were Saudi Arabian funded Wahhabist groups, not your typical Muslim. If you don't know the history and difference between Wahabism and Islam, then I understand your ignorant hatred.
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>>1944738
christ, is this seriously what isolationist retards believe
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>>1944762
>If you don't know the history and difference between Wahabism and Islam
come on, Wahabism is a sect within Islam, not a different religion
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>>1944767
That's like saying the Nation of Islam is a Muslim sect. Same name and they both read the Quran, but they aren't Islam as in the Islam that 25% of the world follows.
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>>1944732
How come every nation that lives near muslims fucking hates them? Israeli Jews hate them, Russians hate them, Serbs hate them, Hindus hate them, so do Christian Africans, Assyrians and pretty much damn everyone.
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>>1944767
>>1944781

It's not a sect. It's a diverging separate religion with similar views. Like imagine Mormons bombing a city and Christians being blamed.

Islam follows the practices of Muhammad and his successors, Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali. Wahhabism comes believes in the same Quran, but they think Muhammad was stupid and his companions were idol worshipers of Muhammad. Islam doesn't consider God a deity. Wahhabism considers him an actual deity sitting on a throne. Islam considers all of it's sects Muslims. Wahhabism considers any real sect of Islam apostasy unless they convert to Wahhabism. They especially hate Shia Muslims.

They're only considered a Sunni sect because Wahab followed the teachings of an old Hanibal Scholar, despite him being exiled from the school for his views that aren't Islam.
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>>1944784
Russian here. We don't hate Muslims. We are fighting for them. We fucking hate Arabs though regardless of religion.
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>>1944784
Because most countries don't like its neighbors, primarily when those neighbors are considerably different.
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>>1944475
Morality is a form of communication. Communication is better between similar people with similar experiences.
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>>1944788
Mormonism is a sect of christianity, albiet one that most other christians consider heretical. you have cited no reason for why Wahabism isn't Islam, just reasons that it's not legitimate in your eyes. i find it quite ironic that you are getting onto Wahabism for considering other sects of Islam not "real" Islam when you are doing the same thing back at them
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Because it pays too much attention to something that doesn't fucking matter
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>>1944803
Wahabism is not a sect of Islam because it doesn't follow the interpretation of Prophet Muhammad. They claim he is wrong. While technically all monotheist religions are Islam as it's just Arabic for submission to 1 God, it's not the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah. If you believe that what Muhammad revealed was wrong or he interpreted wrong, then you aren't Muslim. Regardless of the 12 sects of Shia or 4-5 sects of Sunni Islam, they are all fundamentally the same. Wahhabism is completely different. You can't blame the 2.2 billion Christians on the planet because of the acts of a few hundred thousand Mormon terrorists.
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>>1944687

The difference between Christians killing in the name of their religion and Muslims doing the same is very simple but explains much.

Christians killing in the name of their Religion is 99.99999% of the time a straight up SIN within Christianity itself. The religion does not condone such behaviour.

In Islam, the killing and brutalization of non believers (Kafirs) is very much sanctioned and encouraged, in many cases. People of the book (Jews, Christians) receive slightly better treatment, but humilation, repression, in in cases violence and murder are all sanctioned by Islam agaisnt non believers.

'Christian' terrorists, brutalizers, and tyrants, do these things IN SPITE OF the religion. By definition what they do is a sin, and not acceptable within the frame work of Christianity.

In Islam, the brutalization of non believers (a very broad and easily abusable definition) is very much BECUASE of the religion. There are defined situations where violence and repression are not only acceptable, but at the minimum righteous, and taken to the maximum, required.

This is the fundamental difference between Islam and any other major religion. Islam is far, far from a religion of peace.
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>>1944821
Are you reading from Wahhabist sources? Because actual Islam doesn't condone any of that.

>inb4 I interpreted the Quran as so
>those sunnas and hadiths proving the context otherwise are false
>stop playing mental gymnastics with me

Literally Wahhabism.
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>>1944803

You need to listen to

>>1944813

Islam is not like Christianity. There are very well defined rules as to who is and is not a Muslim, and very few doctrines are open to interpretation without conflicting with the Qur'an and Suna, which in turn are defined to be the perfect and unchanging. Islam is actually a very consistent religion, so long as you understand the doctrine of abrogation.
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>>1944839
>Islam is not like Christianity
But it is. The Koran talks about Jesus Christ being a prophet, and also the gospels are affirmed by the Koran. Now the book of Paul and similar interpretive books in the New Testament not so much
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Islam follows the guidance of Muhammad and the Rashidun Caliphate. They use credible collections of hadiths and sunna to confirm the doctrine and interpretation of the Quran. While Shia and Sunni Muslims have their differences, they both follow this basic fundamental rule of Islam.

Salifism on the other hand is different. They interpret the Quran at their own will and create their own doctrines mostly through finding context from other verses within the Quran. Wahabbism is a radical extremist example of Salafism. Not all people who interpret the Quran at their own will are extremists, but they are very prone to being sucked in to the Wahhabist religion.

Islam as the religion revealed by Prophet Muhammad isn't really the same Islam as Wahabbists follow. So it's more technically correct for Muslims to call Wahhabists non-Muslims as they don't follow the practices of the Prophet himself and the guided caliphate than for Wahhabists to call Muslims non-Muslims because they don't submit to the doctrine of a radical religious group that has been killing Muslims for centuries.

There's really no Christian comparison. Islam by most of the billions of Muslims is following the guidance of Muhammad. Islam has been this way since it's inception. It's not wrong for them to call people who stray from the doctrine practiced by Muhammad and his companions as innovators and apostasy.
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>>1944830


What is the difference between an Wahhabi Qur'an and another? Translation? Version? There are many tricks in Arabic that allow different translations and versions of the Quran and Sunnah, leading to different interpretations.

Thankfully there is a rich literary history surrounding the Qur'an, and it can be interpreted into another language accurately. I am an objectivist. When wanting to know about Islam I don't ask a Muslim, I consult the Qur'an and Sunnahs, and other widely accepted Islamic works. Wahhabism is not Islam, but you also say that Islam does not condone violence. Are you aware and a believe of the doctrine of Abrogation? It is a doctrine long established before Wahhabism. Wahhabism is new to the Islamic world but what I am arguing is not.

Islam is a violent, totaltarian, ideology. It is more than religion, it is a political system, a societal template. The Qur'an and Sunnahs confirm this. The history of Muhammad and his companions confirm this. Do you deny this?
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>>1944677
nothing wrong with bombing murderers
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>>1944856

Just becuase Jesus is mentioned does not mean it is like Christianity. There are very fundamental and irreconcilable differences between the two. "You will know them by their fruits", and I know the fruits of Muhammad.
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>>1944875
It's not following the Quran itself that makes you a Muslim, but following the doctrine of Muhammad and the first caliphate.
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>>1944875
>Islam is a violent, totaltarian, ideology. It is more than religion, it is a poli[...]

Read a history book, and you can replace Islam with literally any empire, religion, or shit fly in history.

Islam represents globalism and social justice.
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>>1944475
Xenophobia is one of the most ancient instincts of animal life, and its what keeps animal alive, imagine if our fishy ancestors were like STOP BEING SO RACIST TO THE ANOMALOCARIS IM SURE THERE ARE SOME NICE ONES WHO WONT KILL US AT ALL.

The jews are also the ultimate proof that racial xenophobia is the perfect survival strategy as well.
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>>1944561
Genetic xenophobia is a mental mechanism in hominids to stop species mixing because that destroys all the hard work natural selection did,

Over 30,000 years it took for whites to evolve in Europe and its all destroyed the moment you breed with a nigger who is designed to live in the hot african jungles an alien world compared to the colder deciduous forest of Europe.

Hybrids are also random, we may be part Neanderthals but our neanderthal genes actually screwed us over compared to our human genes. Thus mixing of any kind is a biological waste of time and a bigger gamble than regular natural selection.
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>>1944856
Jesus Christ not a fucking prophet in Christianity, he's the literal God in flesh.
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Depends

Attacking any and all foreigners on sight is insanity

Driving out members of a hostile or destructive group is common sense
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>>1944738
Well at least the /pol/fag shows his true colors
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Any kind of phobia is technically a bad thing since it means a excess of a certain fear.
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>>1944966
The problem is when xenophobia sees enemies and hostile groups where they don't exist.
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>>1944976
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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>>1945006
And it'll fuck you over every other time. The trade off is hardly beneficial.
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>>1945018
Not really

Japan, South Korea, and Singapore are highly xenophobic, peaceful, and prosperous

Foreigners are more than welcome to visit and then leave
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>>1945025
Japan's xenophobia is going to be the death of them thanks to their low birthrate.
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>>1945030
Is this satire?
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>>1945025
>Singapore
>xenophobic
>Foreigners are more than welcome to visit and then leave
You are high or something? And just so you know, not wanting the island to sink is not xenophobic
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>>1945030
Not really

They're a first world nation already overpopulated and in the next generation or two things will stabilize

You don't need constant growth, especially on islands the size of Montana

And I like how you ignored Korea and Singapore

C'mon man, diversity isn't good

And diversity for the sake of diversity is worse

People like being around people like themselves: be it friends, lovers, or coworkers

Research has already shown diversity + proximity = conflict/crime/terrorism/lack of community participation

It gets so bad even people within their own group mistrust each other

Everyone settles into their ethnic ghettos and looks anxiously at the others

Diversity can be a good thing when it's not forced

A clearly defined country for Irish, Russian, Italian, Chinese, etc. works better

People are free to visit, enjoy the culture difference, and leave
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>>1945046
not him but don't they hate Malaysians/all sorts of other SEA peoples there?
they're all pretty butthurt against eachother so I hear

then you have the Indian workers who go there as well
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>>1945066
lol whut

More like bantz and "Success breeds jealousy XDDDD" than outright hatred and loathing. but i will admit Chinese dispora aren't well treated in the region and yes China being China is not helping
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>>1945060
I wouldn't be surprised if Japan conquers the world one day, they are truly a brave people.

You are right, though. Ethnic diversity almost always leads to ethnic conflict. Multiracialism is even worse, and it is a big chunk of the reason reactionary politics is becoming more popular.
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>>1944895
The social justice to fuck 9 year olds?
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Why is xenophobia good?
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>>1945030
There are 125 million humans in Japan and they are intelligent people they will never go extinct, they would legalize rape rather than import non natives to increase their birth rates because nips are not cucks like white people to the japanese their people is an extension of their nation.
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The term "ethnic diversity" is just a subtle way of implying segregation and inhibits the possibility of a united culture.
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>>1945104
If Neanderthals were more xenophobic they would still be here.
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>>1945110
>diversity
You mean Niggers and Muslims thats exactly what you mean by diversity.

Diversity is also bullshit, there is a reason why humans are naturally racist.
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>>1945111
>Proving my point

"Good" and "bad" are relative, subjective terms.
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>>1945107
they aren't going to go extinct but they are going to face severe economic problems do to their demographics. either the mass of elderly will suffer greatly without adequate care or their government will have go into great debt without an adequate tax base to fund social services. it's akin to our baby boomer problem, but much worse
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>>1945121
Blacks dont want diversity they just want to NIGGER the entire human species and use buzzwords like inbred to make cucks reproduce with them.
>>1945125
Japs are fine.
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Xenophobia is negative because it halts the progression of mankind. In order to progress as a species we must transcend our external differences and come together. Other wise we'll just be stuck in the mud judging and hating each other for cultural and physical differences. We must unite and realize that we are all on the same team.
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>>1944613
Because Islam hasnt been a peaceful religion since the late 1800's
When Safavid(Shia) ideals overtook Ottoman(Sunni) ideals
All the jihad and violent conversions and other things took place
Takr Afghanistan a hundred years ago
and now compare it to the shitfilled cesspool it is now
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>>1945126
That's not xenophobia. That's just racism. Do you even know what xenophobia is?
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>>1945126
>Japs are fine
no argument of course. their rate of birth is nearly 1 per woman. you need to replenish your population or else your elderly will have no one to care for them.
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>>1945141
They can handle it anon.
>>1945138
Racism is just racial xenophobia.
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>>1944613
There's passages in the Quoran that explicitly states you should kill non-believers. "Strike fear in the hearts of non-believers", it says, literally.

It's an inherently violent religion. Not that Christians haven't been assholes in the name of christianity, but I don't think there's a whole lot of "kill people who don't believe this" in the Bible.

Not to say I like christianity. At all. All religion is shit in that it detracts from the truth, which is paramount to understand and progress, or fall to the wayside and die so the righteous can blossom uninhibited.
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>>1945169
You aren't understanding the context of the Quran and sound like a Wahhabist.
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>>1945169
>I don't think there's a whole lot of "kill people who don't believe this" in the Bible
hell yeah there is. you should read more of Kings. plenty of slaughter of priests of Baal. in Deuteronomy it says to stone any Israelite that tries to convince his community to worship a different god
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>>1945174
Why shouldn't people take the word of God at face value? Why does everything have to be a goddamn riddle with this shit?

Oh, I know why, so it's less susceptible to scrutiny. "Oh, it doesn't really mean this, it means this, because of the arbitrary thing here".

Fuck off with that shit.
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>>1945183
Because the Prophet's companions are the ones that wrote the Quran as revealed upon to them. The Quran wasn't complete until the 3rd caliph. If you don't agree with their doctrine and practices then how could you possibly believe in the Quran?
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because it is isolationist and as such serves only to hinder progress and trade.

cutting yourself off from the massive majority of the earth's population isn't going to achieve anything but stagnation.
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>>1945183
When scholars are doing "Oh, it doesn't really mean this, it means this, because of the arbitrary thing here" they are doing so because they understand the context via sunna, not because it's their own interpretation playing gymnastics with you.
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>>1945183
Much of the Quran needs to be cross-referenced with ahadith in order to understand its context and make sense of what you’re reading. Just believing in the Quran alone doesn't make you a Muslim according to every Shia and Sunni sect.
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>>1944895
>Islam represents globalism and social justice.
wtf, i hate islam now
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Nice /pol/ thread. Knew it would turn to shit posting about either Muslims or niggers.
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>>1945197
the hadiths were written long after the quran.
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>>1945190
You're saying it's only possible to trade with other nations by letting in swarms of low/no skilled underclass?
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>>1945218
>the Reformation
You mean the Catholic-Protestant split that tore Europe apart into war?

>the Enlightenment
You mean that thing that wasn't exclusive to Christianity?
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>>1945218
It was, until wahhabism took root. The Saudis are a fucking plague
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>>1945215
Muslim and Nigger aren't mutually exclusive
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>>1945218
Why do so many cucks talk about the Reformation like it's a good thing? Or that islam needs this "reformation"?

The Reformation tore the christian world apart, allowed all manner of insane sects to rise, caused witch burnings and fundamentalist to wreak havoc, and led to some of the most savage wars in Europe prior to WWII
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>>1945228
Hadiths were around the same time as the Quran was written, Muhammad and his companions encouraged every one to write down everything he said and did. It's how they wrote the Quran. But there were hundreds of thousands of Hadiths. It wasn't until the scholars of the Abbasid that began authenticating them and the science of hadith was born. Shia hadiths consist more of writings from Ali and Muhammad's family where Sunni contains more hadiths from Muhammad's companions. Hadith is as required to believe in to be a Muslim as a Quran is. Not only do they discuss the context and what was going on during the revelations of such verses, but without the Hadith, Muslims wouldn't even know how to pray. You can't disregard it's context. The mainstream sects consider hadith to be essential supplements to, and clarifications of, the Quran, Islam's holy book, as well as for clarifying issues pertaining to Islamic jurisprudence. To disregard everything and make up your own context, claiming Muhammad was illiterate and didn't know what the revelations meant, and the companions were idolaters, and you spend the better part of the past 2 centuries killing Muslims with the aid of the west, destroying mosques, tombs, etc, How exactly are you the same religion? You may read from the same book, but you aren't the same religion.
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>>1945218
Reforming a religion is very disrespectful to the doctrine, might as well drop it if you wont obey everything in it, that is why Christianity was twisted into LETS BE MINDLESS MORAL IDIOTS the religion by fucking white people and not just the utilitarian religion that the sand people intended.
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>>1944475
Constructing an identity around fear of the 'other' is pathological. It represses the true reason of why you need a foreign entity to sustain the ideological edifice.

The Nazis wanted capitalism without the individualism and profiteering. They wanted an organic and cooperative society. Instead of locating this evil within capitalism itself, they pinned it on a foreign adulterer.
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>>1944539
>Reasonable xenophobia is good, for example the are valid reason to hate islam/muslims.

You've never met a muslim and you're a literal idiot.
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>itt: xenophobia is bad because it FEELS bad yeah they may be goat fuckers but some of them are really nice sometimes!

kek
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>>1944634

Atheism is an old meme
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>>1944475
It's not...
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>>1945347
>Constructing an identity around fear of the 'other'

Who ever constructed their entire identity around xenophobia except the Jews?
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Why is it wrong to think that people should live and prosper in the nations created by people who share their cultural and ethnic background? Why is racial diversity important for white countries but not, for example, in Polynesian countries?
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>>1944875
When wanting to know about Islam I don't ask a Muslim, I consult the Qur'an and Sunnahs, and other widely accepted Islamic works.

That's not actually objectivist, though. What that is is reading an incomplete snapshot of Islamic dogma and, usually, accepting salafi interpretation of what you've just read because you likely come from a Western tradition that values this kind of reading and study over another.
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>>1944475
It harms directly and makes toxic any sort of communal trust, even among people of like ethnicity or background.
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>>1944923
Don't get it wrong: there's both benefits to outbreeding and inbreeding, seems evolution gave us two strategies. It can go both ways: inbreeding depression can happen as well as outbreeding depression (note the latter is more severe with actual hybrids i.e. between species)
The book "Our political nature" talks about this.

With this comment my statement now makes little sense. If there are benefits to inbreeding as well, it is not hard to imagine some pursuing the inbreeding strategy.
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>>1945552
>It harms directly and makes toxic any sort of communal trust, even among people of like ethnicity or background.
kek

Multiculturalism literally destroys high trust societies. The more multicultural an area is, the less trusting it is.

Go away and go prep the bull for Abdul.
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>>1945553
>With this comment my statement now makes little sense.
Make that "less sense". I did say I can find it reasonable to protect kinship.
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>>1945552
There's actually studies that suggest multi-cultural communities have higher rates of distrust and make people more likely to stay indoors. You can say this is just evil xenophobia but another way to read it is that people are inherently happier and more comfortable among people with whom they share a common culture.
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>>1944913
>Xenophobia is one of the most ancient instincts of animal life, and its what keeps animal alive
Are you an animal or are you human?
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>>1945368
I lived in Columbus Ohio next door to a bunch of deadbeat Somalis. One of them even hacked a restaurant oener with a machete, so kindly cuck out.
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>>1944613
why do people avoid grizzly bears when maybe this bear is a comfy bear that just wants a hug?
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>>1945566

Humans are animals you idiot.
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>>1944632
>True, but why do Muslims get a worse rap than anyone else?

When was the last time you saw a video of Chirstians, Jews, Hindus, or Buddists burning girls with a flamethrower or throwing gays off the top of buildings?
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>>1944632
>why do muslims getva worse rap
Dunno nigga, watch some liveleak videos from Iraq, Iran and Syria then tell ne.
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>>1946091
Didn't know muslims are found in those countries only
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>>1946047
Fags should be genocided.
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>>1944634

>thinking your enlightened because you jumped on the bandwagon.
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>>1946047
This year. Your media just doesn't show it. Muslims are killing other Muslims in the middle east. Christians are doing ethnic cleansing in India and using children as soldiers and sex slaves in Africa.
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>>1944715
got any links to these christian suicide bombings? or are they all so secret that nobody even reported them anywhere?
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I don't want Muslims near me because they smell bad and their language is offensive is my ears.

I don't have to justify shit to you libcucks ;^)
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In the 21st century, liberal democracy will either normalize xenophobia or it will be overrun by Africans. There is no alternative.
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>>1944539
Reasonable xenophobia is an oxymoron.
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>>1944715
Not him, but those are more a tribal issue rather than religious. One tribe is a christian the other one is muslim, etc.
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>>1946464
t. Abdul bin Aladin
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>>1946450
>implying you can make projections like that 90 years into the future

0/10, worst graph I've ever seen
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>>1946477
It is strictly religious when you're killing anybody that doesn't convert to Christianity. The genocide of Hindu in India and Islam in central Africa is no different than what ISIS is doing in the middle east. Convert and join my terrorist group or be killed.
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>>1945066
Some of them are butthurt against immigrants and expats who drive up the housing prices. That's not xenophobia.
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>>1946486
>libcuck denying reality because it finally dawns on him that he's going to have to compete with Mutumbo and Jajibwe for a job where he works 12 hours for a serving of rice if he keeps demonizing the big bad xenophobia Boogeyman
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>>1946495
>mindless projections
>reality

???

And nice projecting, that was my first post in the thread. I just don't like your kind of retarded misleading macros.
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>>1946491
Sorry, I was specifically talking about what happens in Africa. I doubt that they would allow you to live if you convert, because like I said, it's more about the tribes/ethnicity. Religion is the supplemental predicate for their identity, not the core. It's like what happened in Bosnian War, where Bosnians=muslims, Croatians=catholic, and Serbs=orthodox.

Shit thread, by the way. /his/ is always like this on murikan active time. Thank dog I live on the opposite side of it.
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>>1946527
Ever since the election, this board as been /pol/ shit overflowing

>b-but it's not politics it's humanities

This board would drastically improve if they removed humanities. It's such a broad subject and it's content can be posted on any board it's related to. It's like somebody posting a car rebuild on /out/ instead of /o/ because they are doing it outside. Pure autism.
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It's bullshit.

If you're going to be xenophobic about a muslim, you need to have some clues about his background.

If he's a bulgarian turk or even a turk, albanian, bosnian - you've most likely no reason to worry about them

either way, there are three choices - multiculturalism, assimilation or deportation

one of these is correct
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>>1944803
Well for first wahhabis actually changed the quran and do some retarded laws like women arent allowed to drive cars while there isnt snything about this issue in the quran.
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>>1946539
don't worry, when trump starts enacting policies with the republican congress in a few months, they'll be too busy reflecting
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>>1946541
>albanian
>no reason to worry about them

Really, it matters more what part of the country you're taking than which country.

I'd take a really rich, well educated Paki over an Albanian refugee.
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>>1944821
Those verses you are constantly talking about are about the pagan arabs who constantly tried to kill muslims. You need to know the context. But thats what happens if your holy book also covers history
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>>1945553
>He thinks white people fucking is inbreeding
Anon any human native to Europe to West Russia is white so its not inbreeding at all.
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>>1945368
Libtard in 120,000 B.C

>You've never met a lion
>You are an idiot
>Stop judging lions you racist
>It wont hurt your racist
>NOT ALL LIONS

This is why we need racism it keep us nice and safe, liberals are mentally defective vertebrates because they for some reason have this unity horseshit idea.
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>>1946543
This is Wahhabist logic. Fake text because translated from Arabic. But you can search the original post.
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>>1946541
Yes but muslims can be xenophobic to christians thought us liberal, fuck off.
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>>1946569
>an analogy
ok
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>>1946541

>either way, there are three choices - multiculturalism, assimilation or deportation


Multiculturalism is just how European governments sell immigration to xenophobic Europeans who can't see the value.

Deportation is oppressive, expensive, stupid and causes political instability and burns bridges with many nations.

Assimilation is a natural process that happens no matter what if people live next to each other, especially in the modern age with modern technology, and is what will actually happen with multiculturalism, as it's what happened every time in history for all of human history forever but Europeans believe it won't happen in Europe for some reason because they think they're special.
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>>1946573
yes they can be

you fuck off too i guess
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>>1946578
Euros are the least xenophobic people on earth.

Blacks are the most xenophobic to the point that to this day they still treat eachother like complete shit if they are from different tribes.
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>>1946578
>Assimilation is a natural process
true

but there's a few things we could be doing, which we aren't

i dont think politicians are being clever enough about it, they aren't trying to subvert/accomodate the cultures

we could be training female imams, just to change their ways, having white people be imam etc. instead of banning scarfs

saudi arabian influence needs to be addressed and countered by really talking about it, which happens only on the internet

this is especially the americans' fault with their constant desire to blow up muslim countries - iran seems to be in line

americans(especially) and the west need to go for isolationism, because whatever we do we'll always be the bad guys, not to mention we've achieved nothing but destroy and aid destruction

and for the love of god, more and better produced muslim porn, girls wearing hijabs and scarfs sucking dicks is so hot

it's a cultural effort that needs to be made
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>>1945555
>>1945561
That multiculturalism also degrades trust in its own way doesn't detract from the point he made. A small town that literally has no immigrants yet is inundated with xenophobic politics and public discourse is going to be a shittier place to live than a place that also has no immigrants but has a relaxed and more rational public mood.
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>>1946597
goddamn it, my post looks disgusting, but each line contains a thought
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>>1946597
this has to be the stupidest shit I've read on here in a long while
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>>1946598

You can see this in action on 4chan itself. Shitposting against imaginary threats just shits up a board over time.
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>>1946604
So it's probably a good post.
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>>1944632
>>1944640

Because Muslims defer to The prophet Mohammed and The Qur'an as their principal ideals of good.

This renders the core of their ideology incompatible with broad Western values and basically ensures cultural tension.

For instance, in Shariah court a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's - in the Muslim world this is considered the right and natural order of things.

Not to mention the numerous segments of The Qur'an advocating violence towards unbelievers; what's more the segments often quoted as counterbalancing that are almost always done so out of context to obfuscate the fact that most islamic prohibitions against violence only apply to Muslims, or non-Muslims who pay the Jizya and do not propagate their religion.

Anyone else is considered a troublemaker, and so a fair target for retributive violence.

The problem is not with the people, but with the fundamentals of the ideology.

A "good" person who follows a violent and bigoted ideology can only follow their ideology so far and remain good.
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>>1946693
Killing and subjugating other groups is literally human nature and has been this way since forever
If you're weak then please die off
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>>1946713
day of the rope for Europe is coming soon Abdul. The far right is making a comeback in white countries. I'd pack my bags if I were you.
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>>1946717
you are not compatible with western civilization
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>>1946713
See, I understand your argument.
But you don't seem to understand mine.

I'm advocating the extirpation of Muslims on the grounds that they are a dangerous invasive ideology, because their idea of right and wrong is fundamentally incompatible with secular morality.

The liberal elite's perennial obsession with tolerating the grotesque primitives is undermining our social cohesion.
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>>1946693
And the same is true of fundamentalist Christianity. It preaches that women should be subserviant to men, forbidden from speaking in public, and should be stoned to death for adultery. In a Christian world this is considered perfectly right. Except that changed

There's no reason to assume Muslim adherence to sharia would remain when assimilated into a secular country. In fact Turkey proved this. You can have a Secular Islamic nation without the autism.
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>>1944791
Russian here. Yes, we do hate muslims.
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>>1946723
are you in favor of not extirpating atheist arabs, non religious arabs or arab women that don't wear any religious clothing
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>>1946733
Luckily fundamentalist Christians are heavily suppressed in Britain; were I in the states I would propose just such a measure.

>>1946742
No, Islam is an ideology that transcends race; White Muslims are a far higher priority target than secular Arabs.

Though it would be natural for even secular Arabs to have sympathies for Muslims.
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>>1946763
what if you have a white person married to a muslim, are you going to kill the muslim

imagine you have a young atheist arab, their parents are religious, do they have to go?

what if you have a secular arab who believes in allah, but eats pork and is non religious otherwise

imagine you had a muslim friend

you haven't thought this through at all
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>>1944613
The religion itself is archaic, retarded, mysoginistic and violence encouraging
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>>1946795
He's from /pol/ he doesn't have a friend period and says whatever /pol/ approves of
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>>1944561
Are you aware that nurture has been losing in ground in relevance to nature? you are living in the 90s
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>>1946693
>in Shariah court a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's
Incorrect. Only in cases regarding debts and the like (which was the context in which the verse that set this standard was revealed--Ayat al-Dayn, "The Verse of Debt"). Even then, most scholars say that knowledge of finance. rudimentary mathematics and such trumps gender.

In ordinary Shari'a trials, a woman's testimony is equal to a man's.

http://www.alhewar.com/TahaTestimony.htm

>Not to mention the numerous segments of The Qur'an advocating violence towards unbelievers; what's more the segments often quoted as counterbalancing that are almost always done so out of context to obfuscate the fact that most islamic prohibitions against violence only apply to Muslims, or non-Muslims who pay the Jizya and do not propagate their religion.

Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]. And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]
Quran 9:4-7

The verses refer only to the group who broke a treaty with Muhammad, as is made clear above.
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>>1946733
Turkey is not an example of how you should be running a country.

Certainly not today with their closet Islamist president doing deals with isis and everybody having to turn their backs and pretend they didn't see because NATO is supposed to show a united front.

Turdoğan and his sons should be handed over to the YPJ so they can be beaten, stripped and hanged by a gang of angry Kurdish women.
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>>1946808
they were 15-20 years ago

they had female leaders(before US kek), were as secular as you can get, were a democracy

it's a shame what's happening there
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>>1946795
Muslims only marry other Muslims.
Anybody married to a Muslim is also a Muslim.

Anybody claiming to be a Muslim but not actually practising Islam will be given the benefit of the doubt and shipped off to where ever the fuck-istan so his Muslim "Brothers" can stone him for loving Bacon.
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>>1946806
[cont.]

9:13 Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun the attack upon you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers.
Quran 9:13

Further, the people who initially broke the Treaty (of Hudaybiyyah) and those who did not break it were not required to pay jizya/zakat.

The terms of the treaty are as follows:

“In your name, O God!
This is the treaty of peace between Muhammad Ibn Abdullah and Suhayl ibn Amr. They have agreed to allow their arms to rest for ten years. During this time each party shall be secure, and neither shall injure the other; no secret damage shall be inflicted, but honesty and honour shall prevail between them. Whoever in Arabia wishes to enter into a treaty or covenant with Muhammad can do so, and whoever wishes to enter into a treaty or covenant with the Quraysh can do so. And if a Qurayshite comes without the permission of his guardian to Muhammad, he shall be delivered up to the Quraysh; but if, on the other hand, one of Muhammad's people comes to the Quraysh, he shall not be delivered up to Muhammad. This year, Muhammad, with his companions, must withdraw from Mecca, but next year, he may come to Mecca and remain for three days, yet without their weapons except those of a traveler, the swords remaining in their sheaths.”
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>>1946816
Everything good about Turkey can be put down to secular influences.

Everything bad - Islamic ones.
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>>1946808
Erdogan is just another example of an Islamic fundie going full retard and he appeals to poor and uneducated.

He's more an instance of fault with the man. Still Turkey was secular and can continue to be secular and coexist with moderate Islam. Rather than demonizing the religion as a whole, we should be seeking to tame it.

Unfortunately this will never happen as long as the west protects the Saudis.
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>>1946806
Pagans were given a treaty (of 4 months I think) to travel the land to see how Muslims live and how far they have spread, in order to understand what Islam was. After the 4 months, Muslims were to kill all of them that didn't submit to Islam. Those who submitted were to be given food and shelter and taught Islam.

But yes, that was specific to the Makkans. It's not a general Sharia rule to kill Pagans. Look at the golden age and house of wisdom. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Pagans, and Atheists all lived together reviving all of the classical science, math, philosophy, literature, etc.
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>>1946830
>as long as the west protects the Saudis.
and as long as the american military is in the hands of corporations and israel, so they plow through any muslim country for any reason

i wish iran had nukes
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>>1946818
>Muslims only marry other Muslims.

No they don't. Muslim men are always marrying non-Muslim women in the west. Leave your basement. Even famous caliphs were known for Christian wives.
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>>1944475
there is a moral obligation fed to whites teaching them that they must be tolerant and embrace diversity, but only in their homelands. I support true diversity, each people with their own blood and land.
Why not shout for open borders in Japan, or Israel? See how it goes over there and examine their thought process, you have your answer.
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>>1946806
>>1946825

You'd be called a heretic in Kabul for claiming such things of The Sunnah.

I suppose it's fortunate that you're permitted to lie in defense of Islam, eh Abdul?

I'll take The Masked Arab's word over yours - he links his citations.
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>>1946836
>Look at the golden age and house of wisdom. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Pagans, and Atheists all lived together reviving all of the classical science, math, philosophy, literature, etc.
lel
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Is /his/ being xenophobic towards pol and 8gag users?
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>>1946857
Always has been.
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>>1946843
Muslim in name only, sham marriage, just plain shit at being Muslim, take your pick.

And you're thinking of Concubines.

Muslim men use low-value western women for sex.

See Rotherham.
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>>1946836
>Pagans were given a treaty (of 4 months I think) to travel the land to see how Muslims live and how far they have spread, in order to understand what Islam was. After the 4 months, Muslims were to kill all of them that didn't submit to Islam. Those who submitted were to be given food and shelter and taught Islam.

Incorrect, please see >>1946825
The treaty was dated at ten years.

Further, the reasons for the Treaty being made was to cool down relations between Mecca and Medina (it was yet to be an all out war, and Muhammad sought to ease tensions--rather than invade the city with his companions, of which he had thousands and counting whilst the Meccans were struggling, he came to the bargaining table so as to avoid wanton bloodshed.
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>>1946843
>No they don't. Muslim men are always marrying non-Muslim women in the west. Leave your basement. Even famous caliphs were known for Christian wives.
how is this supposed to convince me NOT to be xenophobic? they are literally decreasing the pool of available women for me.
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>>1946854
I am considered a heretic in Kabul--rafidhi is the word. I'm a Shi'a. Also all sources were cited save the Treaty, which you can easily google.
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>>1944475
>Why is xenophobia bad?
It's not.

But don't you dare call xenophobes xenophobic. They get offended.
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>>1946874
>they are literally decreasing the pool of available women for me.
It's more of a puddle for you, buddy.
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>>1946881
>It's more of a puddle for you, buddy.
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>>1946875
Then congratulations on not being a Sunni, you're significantly lower down the priority destruction list than Salafists, Wahabbis and the like.

However, just because your variant has some academic differences doesn't change the fact that your morality is based on the actions of a man who was little more than a trumped up warlord with a cult following.

This naturally leads to some discrepancies in the basic conceptions of right and wrong as they are held by Muslims and Secular Westerners; this invariably leads to social tension.
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>>1946875
Why are you posting on 4chan instead of nuking Saudi Arabia so you can perform hajj without being harassed and beaten
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>>1946881
victim blaming, much?

#checkyourprivilege
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>>1946889
if you think it's right to genocide muslims, you're wrong and there's tension between you and secular westerners

you really need to do some reflecting
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>>1946889
>doesn't change the fact that your morality is based on the actions of a man who was little more than a trumped up warlord with a cult following.
I invite you to read Hadith al-Kafi, Bihar ul Anwar (compiled by an ancestor of mine, Allamah Baqir Majlesi), Nahj ul Balagha, and other of our sources for our Prophet and his progeny/contemporaries. Our hadith and Sunnah will reveal a far greater man than your current idea of Muhammad vis-a-vis your understanding of him from Sunni literature.

>>1946890
Why would I do that? Waiting for Trump to #DrainTheSwamp and stop America's backing of them and Salafism beforehand.
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>>1946890
Tbh, if I was an Iranian nuclear warhead I'd be in Riyadih by now.

I would have zero issues with the existence of Muslims if they'd stick to killing each other at home like the Persians mostly do.

I don't care about human suffering occurring outside my range of action - it's like caring about soap opera characters - pointlessly stressful.

I can see how bringing war to the Middle-East warranted some retaliatory strikes against The West, but fuck me, I was a non-interventionist before I could vote, and so are most people who aren't bleeding heart meddling lefties.

Muslims always go after civilian targets too; when was the last time a Muslim terrorist killed a Western political figure?

It's all clubs and public transport - civilian targets.

The Americans, for all their self-righteous murdering at least try to land their bombs in the general vicinity of command figures and logistical facilities.
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>>1946918
>The Americans, for all their self-righteous murdering at least try to land their bombs in the general vicinity of command figures and logistical facilities.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa-civilians-idUSKBN1343HQ

And that was just 2 days ago.
Don't ask why Muslims are pissed off at you, because it's obvious to everyone else. Hopefully with Trump in office you'll finally stop intervening my American friend.
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>>1946898
>if you think it's right to genocide muslims, you're wrong
el em ay o
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>>1946925
why is /his/ filled with such bluepilled bait? Most of the threads just ask one lazy question and dip out, with no IDs you can't tell.
The image has no relevance to anything OP posted, it's so fucking obvious.
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>>1946918
>>1946924

Oh, and when's the last time a Shia terrorist has blown up clubs/killed people in your country? It only seems to be Saudi-backed groups.
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>>1946925
>still believing agitators paid by the European far right to false flag and make Muslims look bad
wew
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>>1946925
So I suppose the Westboro Baptists speak for all Christianity? Or the Neturei Karta speak for all Jews?

Let me speak for all Muslims then: I am fine with you and your system America, but please for the love of everything you hold dear get your grubby mitts out of everyone's business then playing the victim card when someone bites your cheeto-stained fingers.
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>>1946933
Most Westerners at an intermediate understanding of Islam equate Sunni = Arab, Shia = Persian.

Any more nuance than that tends to get lost.

>>1946924
Isis uses tunnel networks interconnecting with civilian facilities; this makes them well hidden, but unfortunately means softening them up with air-bombardment tends to kill lots of no-coms.

Western Military Bases contain no personnel not involved in military logistics.

Basically, if you set up a mortar emplacement in a nursing home and cry foul when counter-fire smooshes your grandad into a fine paté then you're either out of your depth or just pulling a wounded gazelle gambit.
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>>1946946
>Isis uses tunnel networks interconnecting with civilian facilities; this makes them well hidden, but unfortunately means softening them up with air-bombardment tends to kill lots of no-coms.
>Western Military Bases contain no personnel not involved in military logistics.
>Basically, if you set up a mortar emplacement in a nursing home and cry foul when counter-fire smooshes your grandad into a fine paté then you're either out of your depth or just pulling a wounded gazelle gambit.

ISIS doesn't ask permission or consent to set up in someone's house--it says 'do' or 'die.' Also I'm not blaming the soldiers following their orders and protocol, I call into question the idea that America doesn't target civilian places like ISIS does.
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>>1946954
maybe you will have half a point when the next time a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay club 10 of the people who die are us army soldiers in uniform with rifles

but before that, as most Muslims, you're just building another false equivalency

the us army does not explicitly target civilians

Isis and muslim terrorists do
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>>1946961
There are no Muslim terrorists. Wahhabists aren't Muslims. 90% of Sunni Muslims are hanafi which is very modern and Shia Muslims are bros.

Muslims are fucked though. They are going to be wiped out unless a world war breaks out. Russia and China and Iran are backing Muslims fighting against Saudi terrorists like ISIS. The west is funding Saudi Arabia but they're also funding rebel groups that are fighting Saudi religiously and Syrian government politically. Its a huge fucking shit fest.

If you want transparent unfiltered shit on what's going on, watch the Russian news. American funded wahhabists that would have went extinct if it weren't for Britain are bombing your faggot clubs, not the Muslim majority.
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>>1944475
its not
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>>1946990
t. Muhammed Syrgeinov
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>>1946961
Yeah, and you'll have half a point when ISIS kills 15,000+ American civilians (https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/), then and maybe then you'll be able to attribute this group as being the responsibility of Islam itself, when Muslims are their main victims (http://www.globalresearch.ca/muslims-are-the-victims-of-between-82-and-97-of-terrorism-related-fatalities-us-government/5516565)

No terrorist has ever said "you know what I'll give these guys who made my grandpa into a patee the benefit of the doubt." All they see is a foreign interventionist military. Stop intervening, and you'll cease to have this problem.
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>>1944475
Because it's immoral.

Imagine if you were a black man, would you like it if people hated you without regards for your character?
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>>1946935
>He thinks any right wing organization in Europe has that level of power
Retard is you.
>>1947089
Blacksvhave no problem beating the living shit out of random white people they dont even know JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, so shut the fuck up about HURR BE NICE TO THE BLACKS YOU MEANIE. Tell blacks be nice first or stuff your hypocracy up your ass.
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>>1947089
>Imagine if you were a white man, would you like it if people hated you without regards for your character and called you a racist just for being white?
works both ways, captain cuckold
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>>1947101
two wrongs don't make a right, anon
these are important moral lessons your mom should've taught you a decade ago, when you were 5
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>>1947108
>>1947101
Back to /pol/.

I never said anything about white people.
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>>1947110
Hey cuck take a stroll in the nearest black majority place in your state and see how long it takes for a nigger to fuck with you and the only reason they fuck with you is BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE.

HURR DURR BLACKS DONT HATE WHITE PEOPLE MINDLESSLY

http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html
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fuck drumpf and fuck white people
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>>1947120
Whats your point though? i pointed out blacks are the most racist people in America yet you talk shit about US BEING XENOPHOBIC?

You should see what blacks in black majority areas do to white people how they walk behind white people talking about how they are gonna brutalize them.
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>it's a /lefty pol/ thinks it's better than /pol/ (and vice versa) episode
Every single one of you faggots with your knee jerk reaction boil my blood.
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>>1947125
move to mexico then
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>>1947127
>Because all black people are racist
>Because all black people are violent

I don't think you're around black people alot.
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>>1947136
>Not all blacks

Enough already get it in your fucking head nothing will make me not see the blacks are racist psychopaths that enjoy making white people suffer, even the intelligent ones are racist psychos who can easily pull shit out of their ass to rationalize any savage thing their more retarded kin does to white people.
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>>1946879
Kek
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Bourgeois morality.
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>>1944475
Yes. We must all learn to love on another.
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>>1947195
Cute webm senpai ;)
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>>1944475
It isn't but damn I can't wait until aliens show up and change the entire nature of "us vs them"

A united humanity against an outside power is massively appealing to me.
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>>1947195
/r/ilovebeingalive
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>>1947224
>implying there wouldn't multiple quisling groups ready to sell humanity out in order to get with the alien's good graces and settle old scores against whatever ethnicity they dislike
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>>1944539
>valid reason to hate islam/muslims.
Islam sure Muslims, not necessary. I live in Singapore and I am surrounded by these cunts and they seem to not want to explode for Allah. Though most seem very devout so it might just happen.
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>>1947224
If an alien threat showed up unification would do nothing since only white and asian countries are useful military wise against an alien invasion.
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>>1944475
It's not.
People groups cannot survive over generations without it.
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>>1946940
>So I suppose the Westboro Baptists speak for all Christianity?
people make this argument every time but if you put a muslim and a christian side by side, you'd automatically think one is more violent than the other and we all know which one i'm talking about
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>>1944784
>hindus hate them
no they hate pakistan and the band of extremism that they and their saudi masters push.

Most people in villages happily trade with each other, hindus sell fruits to muslims during ramzan and muslims give alms to hindu poor during ramzan. They worship the same local saints and pirs.

Saudi funded
>us vs them
islam is a cancer and needs to be scourged along with the saudis.
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>>1944677
The number of anti-abortion deaths since violence ramped up in the '90s is either 8 or 11, I can't actually find a straight number on total deaths. More people were killed in San Bernardino alone. Anti-abortion violence is fucking nothing.
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>>1944687
The thing is, you're talking about fucking African shitholes. You don't really see that same shit among Christians in the actual developed world. You sure as shit see it among muslims though.
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>>1946413
>Christians are doing ethnic cleansing in India
Save us modi.
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>>1946541
>albanian
>>
woah these people sure are spooked hardcore by modern values lol!
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>>1944475
it's an inferior immigration policy to vetting
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>>1944784
Same thing could be said about the jews but you zionist dicksuckers will defend them
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>>1947640
According to the National Abortion Federation, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded, 100 butyric acid attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers since 1977. Don't forget fertilizer bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in 1993, killing a hundred and sixty-eight people, including nineteen children, and wounded 648 others, committed by Christian extremists. Not to mention every thing that KKK has done, and still exists today. Glenn Cross, the leader of the Carolina Knights of the KKK, was sentenced to death by lethal injection for murdering a fourteen year old girl and two seniors outside the Overland Park Jewish Community Center in Kansas City. The man gave the Hitler salute during his trial and declared that “Jews are destroying the white race.” None of his victims were Jewish. The Massacre At Zion Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C. America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple because Christians can't tell the difference from a Muslim and a Sikh person. The same Christian terrorist that carried out the 1996 Summer Olympics bombing and 1998 abortion clinic bombing in Alabama.

White supremacist Christian ideology is the biggest terrorist threat in our country statistically. You're also statistically more likely to be shot by a cop than a Muslim.
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>>1948077
>attempted murder
>death threats
>physical invasions
>anthrax threats
>assault and battery
wow it's fucking nothing

>calling the oklahoma city bombing "christian terrorism"
kek
like calling the IRA a 'Christian terrorist organization'
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>>1948085
>it's no big deal cause they white!

Showing your /pol/ pride.
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>>1948088
who are you quoting
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>>1948077
>Don't forget fertilizer bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in 1993, killing a hundred and sixty-eight people, including nineteen children, and wounded 648 others, committed by Christian extremists.

>borrowing a page from U.S. foreign policy, I decided to send a message to a government that was becoming increasingly hostile, by bombing a government building and the government employees within that building who represent that government. Bombing the Murrah Federal Building was morally and strategically equivalent to the U.S. hitting a government building in Serbia, Iraq, or other nations. (see enclosed) Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option. From this perspective, what occurred in Oklahoma City was no different than what Americans rain on the heads of others all the time, and subsequently, my mindset was and is one of the clinical detachment. (the bombing of the Murrah building was not personal , no more than when Air Force, Army, Navy, or Marine personnel bomb or launch cruise missiles against government installations and their personnel.)
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>>1946562
>>He thinks white people fucking is inbreeding
That's what you say, not me. Inbreeding just means breeding closely-related.
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>>1945060
>and in the next generation or two things will stabilize

What do you base that off?

There would be a massive social collapse if anything as the burden of old folk on the younger take its toll.
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>>1945279

Neithers idiot and you.
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>>1947382
>People groups cannot survive over generations without it.

Except history has proven you wrong on that.
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>>1944613
I would spin that the other way. You can hate a group without hating everyone in that group.
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>>1944595
Yeah wow I bet Europe changed genetically from imperial and pagan to feudal and christian to democratic and secular in only 2000 years.
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>>1944613
Groups tend toward common behaviours. If you are averse to those behaviours, It is logical to be averse to a situation whereby the group grows in size and influence in your area. Left wingers tend to understand this perfectly when regarding Christians, but are baffled when the same logic is applied to Muslims.
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>>1944539
And all the seminal figures who defines their fields? Do they belong on /pol/, would Hume not be welcome here no?

Fucking degenerate, how's gender studies going?
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>>1947145
/pol/acks don't see the irony when they post this.
>>1945347
They were against capitalism and not against private property.
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>>1944475
It's a trait that people started to evolve past mostly with the beginning of agriculture and civilization. It is still prominent today, so when people ITT post that "people feel better around their tribe" etc. that's true for them, however they are wrongly projecting it on everybody else, including those who posses empathy and are universalists instead. They're ignoring lots of happy people living in multiethnic societies.
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>>1946391
>Implying religions aren't bandwagons.
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>>1948077
In what fucking universe is the OKC Bombing, comitted as revenge on the government for Waco and Ruby Ridge, an example fo Christian terrorism?
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>>1949030
>They're ignoring lots of happy people living in multiethnic societies.
every example of a muliethnic society I've seen is made up of every ethnic group segregating themselves into small ethno neighborhoods and keeping interactions with other ethnicities to an absolute minimum
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