World War 1 thread

Thread's theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEY7Ton1gO4

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>>1741129
>metal

>>1741978
whats wrong with metal

>>1741109
What country were they from?

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>>1741109

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGkyhaMdpto

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>>1742200

Isn't there a research going on right now where they try to find out how long the troops exacty had to spend time in the front line? Because they don't know for fure about that.

>>1741993
Metal is cringe worthy fedora-tier music. I don't understand how anyone can enjoy metal and claim to have good taste.

>>1741993
its the anime of music

>>1741129
I was expecting a period piece and got this bullshit.

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>>1742264

>>1742231

It varied by country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z3kgjxs

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the war that literally broke western civilization

> We had come from lecture halls, school desks and factory workbenches, and over the brief weeks of training, we had bonded together into one large and enthusiastic group. Grown up in an age of security, we shared a yearning for danger, for the experience of the extraordinary. We were enraptured by war.

>>1742418
That's not the 30 years war

>>1742231
? they know, why wouldnt they
this isn't a centuries+ old event
this happened in the last hundred years and we have plenty of records

>>1742251
So it's good?

>>1742486
Some is good but most is horrible

>>1742486
Wew lad

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>>1741109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcydejfvpY4

I was already in the army when the war broke out. And went to France on August the 13th, 1914.

You people over here don't realise what our boys went through in those days. That march from Mons was a nightmare, unless you've been through it you can't imagine what an agonizing time it was.

We used to do from 20 to 25 miles a day. There was only one thing that could cheer us up on the march, and that was singing.

We're here because we're here, because we're heeerre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcydejfvpY4

>>1742486
Overrated and liked by people with poor taste.

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>>1741109

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>>1741129

Should have chosen Iron Maidens 'Paschendale' - lyrically far more beautiful and thoughtful than Sabaton.

>>1742771
>>1742772
>>1742773

did you make these?

>>1742830
Nope, but I have many saved

>>1742577
I love how Britain endlessly whines to this day despite not losing as many men as Germany and not having the war in their homeland, like France and Belgium.

Oh, but their struggle and their losses were so profound.

>>1741978
>>1742249
>>1742644
Back to /mu/, faggots.

>>1742865
its probably because the brits had never fought a war like that they were generally in some far away place against an inferior foe

>>1742865
>endlessly whines
I wouldn't call it whining, but then I'm not a malignant /int/poster.

>>1742432
The 30 years war didn't sign the decline of the continent, it was merely a drawback, and not even for every nation involved

Tell me about Japan's involvement in ww1 and why Wilhem was so annoyed at the idea of losing to them.

Also tell me about the battle of Baku, the caucuses campaign and Azerbaijan

>>1743258
Japan occupied German-held Tsingtao and all their Pacific colonies, which they got to keep most of. They helped Britain with a colonial uprising and tried to take advantage of the great powers distraction by trying to increase their influence in China. That didn't work out. They did a bit in Siberia during the Russian Revolution
They also sent some ships to the Mediterranean.
Basically they gained some land and respect from the other great powers with no real loss

They also made a lot of money through exports, just like the US did

>>1742865
Lol, the British Empire lost alot of troops, what are you talking about?

Lol, stay mad continental shill.

>>1742249
>implying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sbyesGcUE
I actually agree with your post though.

going over the top bantering with my mates while carrying my Ross rifle

oh shit im dead now

>>1742865
To be fair, WW1 was the first (and only) war Britain really fought
Before that (Spanish Succession, Seven Years War, Napoleonic Wars...etc) they'd just cower on their island and let their allies do all the work
WW1 traumatized them so much that they went back to their old habit of letting their allies do all the work in WW2.

>>1745076

This isn't even wrong, it's beserk. Google 'the 19th century'.

>>1741129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83PIagsK4po
a better option

>It will all be useless.--Clemenceau
>This is not a peace deal, it is a twenty year armistice.--Foch
>I cried. I wanted to die.--Vittorio Orlando
WW1 was so depressing that even the peace conference felt like a tragedy while it was happening.

>>1742865

You have to bear in mind the annihilation of the British imperial worldview, the discrediting of the established church for its role in propagandizing for the war, the devastation of its landed families, recognition for the first time of what the industrial age meant, and what British workers had learned to live with over much of the preceding century... that, far more than simply the casualties, is what changed Britain permanently. All of British history since has been formed by that war.

>>1742432
But the thirty years killed mostly germans, which means that europe had time to prosper before those germ*ns had a time to recover and unite into an """empire"""

>>1745076
>>>/int/

>>1745084
When I say "war" I mean against equally developped foes
Of course they could machine gun a bunch of spears-wielding niggers without needing allies

>>1745076
seriously that meme is getting old, britain engaged enemy forces all over the world during most of the wars you mentioned, with british forces engaging and more frequently than not defeating french forces on battlefields from canada and the carribean to india and egypt to spain france, germany and the low countries

sure britain was primarily a naval power, managing to achieve a level of naval dominance by 1815 that was unprecedented at that time and indeed only matched by the USN since

>>1745084
Google "Kitchener's Army" and how the opening day of the 1916 Somme offensive went down.

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>>1741129
Real thread theme https://youtu.be/cPk21C0Wpkg

>>1745230
>britain engaged enemy forces all over the world during most of the wars you mentioned, with british forces engaging and more frequently than not defeating french forces
They fought in a bunch of secondary theatres that had limited impact on the outcome of the wars, usually against foes who were by far numerically inferior (and often had a hard time defeating them even then). It counts as fighting, but can hardly be compared to the massive efforts the powers on the continent undertook on a regular basis

I live in north of France near Vimy, there are loads of military cemeteries with thousands of crosses of all nationalities involved. This is so sad.

>>1741109
>it was so horrifying a whole generation was just wasted away i'm only in high school and watched something about WW1 on youtube :^(

Fact: The majority of soldiers in WW1 never even saw combat, something that had never been seen in history before WW1.

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>>1745424

The troops hated that song by early 1916.

This was closer to what they sang as they marched or did fatigues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3bs2oIyDSs

>>1745475
>They fought in a bunch of secondary theatres that had limited impact on the outcome of the wars
except they were decisive in forcing the french to accepting that the french and spanish crowns must be seperate, and had the allied claimant not died of unrelated causes would have put him on the spanish throne, stripped france of most of her overseas empire and were the sustaining force of the napoleonic wars

and in the spanish succession it was a british general in command of anglo dutch forces that won most of the major battles and campaigns

seriously I know /his/ is rabidly anglophobic most of the time and bizarrely francophilic but you dont get to be a major empire and arguably the first global super power without kicking someones teeth in on land as well as sea

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Austrian soldiers in the Dolomites,

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Austrian outposts

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Through 1916 and 17, the Austrians dug their bunkers into glaciers overlooking Italian positions. They would even dig tunnels to launch attacks from through the ice.

>>1741109
Reading fear by gabriel chevallier
Good book Lads

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The Castelletto was garrisoned by Austrians even after the fall of the overlooking peaks. Separated from the mountains by 100 yards of open rock, the Italains attemped to blow the entire rock. The hard granite held, blowing up the narrow neck before the attack, Italian infantry charged into the smoking crater. Between Austrian machinegun fire and noxious fumes from the pulverized mountain, the Italian assault failed.

The Austrians withdrew to to better prepared positions within a month.

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Austrian supply lines.

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Italian engineers cut this road for their supply during 1916

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Trenches were rare, instead stacked rock would provide cover from rifle and machine-gun fire. Unfortunately medium and large caliber guns would shatter the limestone base, sending rock pieces flying.

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Great page for some pics:
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I'm always amazed at the combatants in this theater. The Italians in WWI were exactly lions led by lambs, or perhaps just idiots. The bravery it takes to attack Austrian positions time and again, with no RnR (Some Italian generals though barbwire placement and trench digging was RnR) is incredible.

I'd recommend "the white war" by Mark S Thompson, gives a good description of the front, as well as Italian motivations from top to bottom. I wish there was as good a source in English for the Austrian side, though Thompson goes into it more during the Austro-German offensives.

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Disallowing the kilt in combat was a mistake 2bh

>>1745726
Cheers for the content.

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>>1741129
Metal trivializes the whole thing and makes it look fake-hardcore. That is what all metal does. People apply it to things to look "badass' but it just makes it look fake. If you want to capture the feelings of the war, use music from the time period. God damn fucking shit.

>>1745751
>London
>Scottish
wut?

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>>1745771

There were Scottish units all over the Empire: Canada, Australia, South Africa, even India.

>>1741978
it's not the fact that it's metal, it's the fact that it's sabameme

>>1745749
Thanks lad. I think it's a shame how little the Italian front is covered and I'm interested to learn more. The caucuses campaign has always interested me too.

Why did so many Turkish civilians die during ww1? I heard turkey lost almost 20% of its population and a lot of it because of civilian death. I believe they also had the highest civilian casualty rate so why did so many die?

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https://youtu.be/Kqba0IUdiBk

>>1745751
kilts collected lice like crazy

Was the collapse of the Ottoman empire the worst thing to happen in the history of the world

>>1746262
Don't do it.

>>1746262
Is this a meme?

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No love for the Canadian Troops

>we were Loved Back then
>and feared by the Germans

now were a Cuck nation of Whiny babys
My great Grand dad wouldn't be happy to see our land now

>>1746272
>>1746280
prove me wrong

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>>1745093

>>1746286
Make your argument as to why you believe its collapse was the worst thing to happen to the world.

feel sorry for you euros knowing that bf1 is indoctr-I mean teach a new generation about ww1

>>1746282
Where did it all go wrong leaf-friend?

>>1746262
>>1745949
>>1746286
Stop.

>>1745771
The English dismantled the border wall in 1909.

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>>1746347
>Replaced France and Russia with Harlem fighters and Bedouins for the sake of forced diversity

I'm mad

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>>1746397
Not permitting the independence of Quebec.

>>1746613
>only the T*rks are white

What did they mean by this?

>>1746613
The uniforms looks pretty inaccurate as well

>>1746708
Almost everything about this game is inaccurate. To be fair an accurate WW1 wouldn't be that fun for most people.

>>1746049
>>real thread theme's song

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Glad I wasn't there

>>1746796
surely the gun firing would scare the shit out of the elephant

>>1745716
Fucking hell
It reminds me of the shanky outposts from Fallout4

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>>1741129
Thread's TRUE theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iGEiY6wvDo

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Post French pics please

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all I have on the French

>>1745731
>>1745736
>>1745738
>>1745749
this was fascinating, thanks for posting all of it

>>1745763
>People apply it to things to look "badass' but it just makes it look fake.
Confirmed for not hearing the song. Sabaton might make songs that would seem like they glorify war but at the same time they also make songs that condemn it. This one of those songs, hence the lyrics at the end:
>they're calling you home

>>1747928
Fug, disregard the last sentence, thought this was Angels Calling. Still, it's not one of their uplifting songs

The only suitable thread theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB2Ad04mukI

>>1745718
meanwhile germans dying like rats on the western front.

>>1746748
still enough to get some nice WW1 feel. mostly you dont see if you just shot a nigger or not

>>1746946
>Thread's TRUE theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj3n02CQJiU
Fixed

Another thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFoqtpUFY8

>>1746282
We will never forget your part in WW2 though Canada, for helping us dutchies. We send tulips every year for thanks. I know it's a small gesture but nothing can really repay the favor.

So if they hated war so much why did they try to make it hell on earth for each other?

>>1748685
Who are "they".

>>1741129
I like sabaton but their a pop-metal band. AKA blink 182 of metal.

>>1742249
>t. I listen to rap

>>1748768
Not even. They're the Sum 41 of metal.

>>1745495
I absolutely adore the Vimy Ridge memorial. It is so beautiful, yet so sorrowful to be around.

When I visited there a year ago, I went through a bunch of the tunnels and trenches, and damn I got claustrophobic from that.

>>1745424
Why changed the lyrics to be American?

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>>1750640
Cultural appropriation

Everyone knows about the Somme...but not everybody knows about the badass alpine warfare and the dozen battles of the isonzo.

thanks for the posts on the alpenfront
We need more desert heroics by turks and british.

t. turk.

>>1746748
>To be fair an accurate WW1 wouldn't be that fun for most people.
*any war portrayed accurately
it does not apply to WW1 alone
and if you somehow meant that WW1 portrayed with the same "accuracy" as for example WW2 shooters
then you are wrong

>>1745949
Famine.

>>1748685
Around 1916 the powers wanted to make war as awful and costly as possible to force the other guys to drop out.

>>1746633
this

>>1742249
I don't claim to have good taste. I just enjoy what I enjoy even if it's shit.

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Anyone read this?

>>1753711
>Anyone read this?
Literally nobody.

Tbqh haven't got around to it yet though. I'd be interested in the opinions of any german speakers that have read multiple editions, apparently Jünger made significant changes.

>>1742432
The 30 Years War got most of the violence out of Christianity's system, so arguably it was better for Western civilization in the long run.

WW1 was just pointless and stupid. Save for maybe killing off the aristocracy.

>>1753747
>Literally nobody.
Many people on /pol/ have read it. But then, /pol/ is more literate than this place.

>>1753711
It's some good shit.

Junger was a fucking madman, dude did not faze easily, and you don't have the culture surrounding war memoirs that built up post-WW1 being primarily regretful and lamenting the war's worst. Not that Junger glorifies it; he just explains what he experienced. The final push at the end is wild, the mindset those guys were in psyching themselves to go over the top is genuinely disturbing.

>>1746811
Why? Just a matter of training. You can do the same with horses.

Does anyone have anything on the more "minor" powers of ww1? Like Romania/Belgium/Bulgaria.

>>1757437
Well, Canada won some moderatly relevant battle in Belgium or something
It was nothing really mattering but they honor that "victory" every year apparently

>>1745763

this

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>During the Battle of the Somme the Ulster Division was the only division of X Corps to have achieved its objectives on the opening day of the battle.
>Of nine Victoria Crosses given to British forces in the battle, four were awarded to 36th Division soldiers.
>The First Day of the Somme was the anniversary (Julian Calendar) of the Battle of the Boyne, a fact remarked on by the leaders of the Division.
>"There was many who went over the top at the Somme who were Ulstermen, at least one, Sergeant Samuel Kelly of 9th Inniskillings wearing his Ulster Sash, while others wore orange ribbons"
>When some of his men wavered, one Company commander from the West Belfasts, Maj. George Gaffikin, took off his Orange Sash, held it high for his men to see and roared the traditional war-cry of the battle of the Boyne; " Come on, boys! No surrender!"
>On 1 July, following the preliminary bombardment, the Ulstermen quickly took the German front line. But intelligence was so poor that, with the rest of the division attacking under creep bombardment (artillery fired in front or over men; they advance as it moves), the Ulstermen would have come under attack from their own bombardment at the German first line.
>But they still advanced, moving to the crest so rapidly that the Germans had no time to come up from their dugouts (generally 30–40 feet below ground). In the Schwaben Redoubt, which was also taken, so successful was the advance that by 10:00 some had reached the German second line. But again they came under their own barrage, not due to finish until 10:10.
>These Ulstermen were also here by choice. Kitchener asked Sir Edward Carson for some of the already armed men of the Ulster Division. He hoped for a Brigade (4x battalions), he got in Volunteers, a Division (3x Brigade)

>>1757464
Was mean as a reply to >>1757437 btw (yes, Britain was a minor power compared to France, burden-bearer of the Western front)

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>>1757473
>european banter

Is anyone else of the opinion that the Central Powers should have won the war?

A short summary of the First World War for anyone who's new to that time period.

https://youtu.be/YXqppJ-L88U

>>1757256
That was sarcasm, m8; Storm of Steel
is one of the most popular wwi memoirs.

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>>1757521
All we had to do is listen.

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Austro-Hungarian reunification when?

>>1757473
>yes, Britain was a minor power compared to France, burden-bearer of the Western front

ridiculous interpretation

britain single handedly managed the war on the sea

by the end of the war they had about 3 quarters of casualties the french had.

i know you're french and want to show off your war effort, which was admittedly tremendous, but doing it through pushing down the british war effort is grossly offensive.

>>1757528
Love how the American narrator puts the emphasize on the midely relevant Meuse-Argonne Offensive while carefully avoiding to name the decisive French lead 100 days Offensive that effectively ended the war

>>1745518
>The majority of soldiers in WW1 never even saw combat

that's completely untrue though

>>1757551
fuck Hungarians, Austrians are cool though
t. South Slav

>>1745726
That's not granite though

>>1757473
I'm not even British but fuck you, without British France would almost certainly be defeated, and Royal Navy was a major reason for German defeat

>>1746946

>nice dark blue and red uniform
>change it to fucking sky blue

the fuck was the thought process there?

>>1746613
why the fuck are they posing like a music band

>>1757556
>britain single handedly managed the war on the sea
Must have been hard against that barely existant German navy

>by the end of the war they had about 3 quarters of casualties the french had.
How about you stop spouting bullshit?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties#Casualties_by_1914.E2.80.9318_borders

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>>1757583
>bright red pants so German machinegunners have easier targets

the fuck was the thought process there?

>>1757582
>without British France would almost certainly be defeated

No shit sherlock
And without France, Britain wouldnt have won either
Germany had like as many men as both countries combined
That's not the point here

>>1757591

not looking shit?

>>1757556
This is why I hate it when people shit all over the French as being "cowards" after being outsmarted by the Germans in the Second World War. They were probably the most courageous fighters in the First World War, and their country was where almost the entire Western Front took place.

>>1757598
Let's not forget how they held basically alone against Germany until late 1916 when Britain had finally brought enough troops there to be of use

Brits take great pride in having bailed the French out in 1917 while they had a moment of weakness, but they're short to remember that from 1914 to 1916 and then again in 1918, France was the major allied power on the Western front and took the biggest part of the burden
Damn, in 1916 when the two biggest battles of the Western front took place, France made up for 50% of troops in one (Somme) and 100% in the other (Verdun).

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>>1757521
Central should have won, considering they were winning for four years only to lose last minute is kinda silly.

>>1757589
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties#Casualties_by_1914.E2.80.9318_borders
800,000 to 1.3 million. Hardly makes Britain a minor. Also ignoring their contributions against the turks.

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>>1757589
>second largest navy in the world
>barely existant

>>1757713
Yeah, we all know how harsh the naval warfare of WW1 was, must have been terrible
Oh wait, it wasnt and only one relevant battle occured

>>1757704
The turks were never a serious threat

>>1757722
>turks capture suez
>5x longer trip for supplies from asia
uh huh sure

>>1746282
Now you know how us Americans feel.

>>1757749
>supplies from asia

Like what? Tea? Carpets?

>>1757720
>it's a some fat fuck who never leaves his room belittles the experiences of military men episode

>>1757831
>being this bait

>>1757866
Don't act like anything from Asia was necessary to the war effort

>>1741129
Fuck off with your Sabaton reeking cunt bullshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa9jtd6XWYM

>>1757920
Except those 75,000 indian soldiers who fought and died.

>>1758159
>75,000

Lmao
That's less than the number of Belgian civilians killed by the German army during the first two months of the war

>>1741129
Proper thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48

Undisputed thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtaRuOK0gm8

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Who was the worst general of World War I and why was it Luigi Cadorna?

>I will just attack this shit 12 times:

>>1745726
>>1745727
>>1745731
>>1745736
>>1745738

>establish Belgium as buffer zone
>enemy goes right through it.

>>1758228
How did that man stay in power for so long? Italy started winning the war as soon as they fired him

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>>1757551
>>1757571
>there will never be a central European federal state headed by the house of Habsburg that isn't as grossly liberal as the west but not as pointlessly reactionary as the east ever again

It's a stupid feel, but it's my feel.

>>1757521
Yes, the world would have been better.

>>1757521
Well it would have definitely helped out in the middle east. As the Germans and Austrians prop up the Ottomans. Who then help keep stability and remove Wahhabi scum. Later a secular and modern Ottoman Empire emerges in time for WW2. Which is now the West vs the Soviets, and Japan being Japan over in East Asia.

>>1757583
dark blue and red uniform was from an age of Napoleonic/Continental war fighting. Where you needed to easily recognize your troop formations on the field of battle.

sky blue uniform was supposed to make soldiers less visible against the sky. when they got out of the trench and charged towards people in trenches.

Meanwhile the Superior Anglos, are wearign olive drab/khaki uniforms to hide against the ground.

>>1757583
>>1757597
> implying that sky blue uniform isn't sexy as fuck

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Surprised by the lack of Central Powers songs in this tread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IrTF4Zk0Tg

>>1746946
Are those not colonial soldiers, so shouldn't the uniform be recoloured to be khaki?

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>>1741109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVzWwu3Yvr0

>>1741129
This one is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQmkYKbW_0A&ab_channel=guardienDeLaDestinee

>>1742249
I thought niggers weren't very humanitarian

>>1750459
>>1742249
Metal is so cringe
Anime is to Video entertainment that metal is to music
Its fans often take a "soo brootal" attitude towards it
I mean, among the biggest autists back in my school days were kids who always wore metallica/megadeth shirts, colored their hair black, and never washed. This one kid i knew even wore a metallica armband literaly every time i saw him. Metal that isn't as cringey is usually as pretentious as Prog Rock, yet half as tasteful (another attribute of metal). There are some Drone/Doom acts that are good, older acts, but other than that its thinly veiled attempts to appeal to edgy autistic children and the thrash aesthetic that pulled people in during the mid-80s (but changed stylistically to seem more "new" and not just a headbanging rehash.

>>1745084
The British didnt lose a significant amount of men/resources in any 19th century war

>>1757589
>Must have been hard against that barely existant German navy
Which still managed to be bigger than the French Navy? Germany had to let their European ships at bay because the British Navy was just that much bigger, stop talking about shit you don't know about

who /doughboy/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hRDS3LvQQ

>>1745563
>and in the spanish succession it was a british general in command of anglo dutch forces that won most of the major battles and campaigns

Mostly, it was large contingents of rigidly organized dutch forces, a big bulk of incoherent German soldiers and Savoy troops directed by a brilliant general in Italy. All hesitant on their own but pushed to unreasonable excesses by a few regiments of highly paid British mercenaries and an hyperactive British general.

So basically every wars Britain ever fought in. Stirr the pot as much as possible with money and diplomatic pressure, watch Europe fall in ruin for the benefits of a few plutocrats in London. Send a few well trained mercenaries when needed. Rinse and Repeat until Europe is destroyed.

>>1745093
Brits and Americans. But mostly Americans are entirely to blame for WW2. Complete sub-human, semite owned territories.

>>1745749
>lions led by lambs
right. emormous advantages over austrians in manpower, guns, everything, yet they fail 11 offensives. that's ELEVEN.
when the germans came to help the austrians, all it took was 1 offensive to push the front all the way to Piave river

lions rofl

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can we all agree that the French were the good guys of WW1?

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>>1757663
>they were """winning""" for four years

It was the equivalent of the school autist going into a rage while being held at arms length by the cool kids. After a few moments of screaming and swinging their fists around Germany let out one final high pitched screech and then collapsed into a pool of tears and urine.

>>1741993
Wood can be cheaper

>>1760514
The allies in general were.

>>1760514
No good,no bad;just men.
>>1757663
What's next "if it weren't for the joos Germany would have won"?

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>>1760514
Yes, and they also had the best uniforms

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>>1760543
>implying

>>1760543
Their uniforms looked like shit.
>Weird ass helmet
>Bulky impractical greatcoat
>FUCKING PUTTEES
Seriously the Germans had leather boots while the Froggies were running around with bandages wrapped around their legs lmao

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>>1760543
>what uniforms you want?
>gimme that circus performer look, pham
>say no more

>>1760546
>wearing a skirt
how can one be this feminine?

>>1760547
>talking shit about puttees

Have you ever tried marching 20 miles a day in jackboots?

Function > Form

>>1760562
Easier to get fucked by the Germans at the Somme

>>1742865
As a belgian... let them whine, if it weren't for them, the french would've collapsed right about the time there was a soviet insurgency in the french ranks... also, not the british their fault that the french bombarded their own lines giving high casualties every fucking battle due to their high command being absolute incompetent faggots

>>1746049
That was nice.

>>1760562
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1760565
Germans had more casualties than Britain at the Somme.

Granted the Ulster Division was responsible for 100% of them.

>>1760684
Germans made up for 100% of the Central Powers force at the Somme though
Britain barely made 50% of allied forces there

>>1760738
Who cares, more Germans dead. Looks like they couldn't help but get fucked.

>>1745726
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batognica
They literally blew up the tunnels in this mountain, lowering it's peak for 200m.

Sadly didn't find the article in english.

>>1750716
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Caporetto

Must be mentioned.

>>1760738
Reminder that the Germans didn't include walking wounded in their casualty figures whereas the French and British did. Any German casualty figures that come directly from German army records should be bumped up by 10% - 40% to account for this.

They did the same thing in WW2 when they only counted their AFVs as destroyed if the vehicle was completely totalled by enemy fire.

>>1758228
>>1760495
>>1760808
>Cadorna: Ok, captain, see those austrian position heavily defended with machineguns and mortars? We're gonna take them down. And by "we", I mean "you".
>Anon Captain: Oh. Ok. I guess it's feasible, with some artillery fire to cover our action...
>Cadorna: LOL no. The only artillery shooting will be the austrian. And I hope you brought the gas masks that were never issued to you, because that shit's nasty.
>Anon Captain: But, Sir, the reticulates and electrified barbed wire...
>Cadorna: The men will tear through them with their bare chests. Now execute 10 of them at random to lift their morale and launch the attack.
>Anon Captain: troop, we're gonna have a lot of fun today. And by "we" I mean "you".
>Anon trooper: fml.

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BF1 went full retard again guise

https://twitter.com/EAitalia/status/781855711877746688

>>1762634
>The helmet proved to be fairly effective against shrapnel and it was cheap and easy to manufacture. As a consequence, more than three million Adrian helmets were produced, and they were widely adopted by other countries including Belgium, Brazil, China, Greece, Italy (including license-built versions), Japan, Luxembourg, Mexico, Morocco, Peru, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Spain, Siam, United States, U.S.S.R., and Yugoslavia, each of these nations adding its own insignia to the front of the helmet
hurrr

>>1762634
>they put in Italians
>but not French

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>>1762683
Can't you see the fucking insignia?
The one on the BF1 pic is clearly a French helmet

Pic related, compare the helmets

>>1762710
>one guy at the MG
>15 other guys casualy sitting around and looking at him lazily

Yep, that's the Italian army

>>1762710
You do realize not all the Italian helmets had no insignia, and some Italian helmets were imported from the French and other ones were made in Italy under license? But no, you're too busy trying to be triggered by Swedes and find something to be offended about.

>>1760543
I need to buy a Lebel.

>>1760543
I can't get over their stupid looking mustaches though

>>1742865
>I love how Britain endlessly whines to this day

That's what they do.

They're a bunch of pussies, and always have been...

>>1760523
Germany militarily beat Russia and kept both Britain and France at bay despite being outnumbered and low on pretty much any kind of resource.

>yfw ww1 started because Kaiser Wilhelm was an autistic faggot

Prove me wrong

>>1762940

The burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. You undoubtedly have some, right?

>>1747737
>That Lee-Enfield pointed straight at his buddy's head

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>>1762634
I wonder if making him a French soldier with a cape was part of the plan

>>1763611
That's actually a Lee-Metford

>>1762913
take it back to /int/

>>1746613
jesus christ

>>1759748
>mostly Americans are entirely to blame for WW2
How the fuck is it Americas fault?

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>>1760514
>history
>good guys vs bad guys

>>1747743

impressive

>>1762683

How about the fact that the soldier on the picture is also wearing a horizon blue French uniform?

>>1746633
>>1752561
We might have considered it if you hadn't demanded to keep your gibs as well.

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Does anyone else have something intresting from the time?

>>1762747
And you think the same retards who are taking liberties with uniforms design would actually do details of that degree? The uniform color is also blue, and is not from the retarded BF filter.
Kill yourself my man

>>1768906
need to dig them up but I think my grandparents had some Light Horse stirrups or spurs or something, can't recall, only just remembered they existed

>>1745076
>i am a retarded burger: the post

>>1768958
nah, more likely to be a Euro
there's a lot of autistic (of the wrong sort) /int/posters that love to come on his and just bullshit relentlessly

Anyone else feel sorry for the Austria-Hungary monarchy? They didn't do anything wrong and had to deal with shitters like the Magyars and Serbs constantly trying to throw the empire into chaos.

>>1758228
I hope he's roasting in the hottest and shittiest part of hell, how many brave cunts had to die because of him

>>1760495
ITT soft western cunts with clearly little understanding of the defensive nature of WW1 and how much the terrain of the Italian front favored the defender. This doesn't even begin to go into detail just how shit Italian leadership was until 1917
Tl;dr fuck off you stupid cunt

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>>1768906
I have my great great-grandfather's paintings from the war.

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>>1769457

>Bohemia (modern czech republic) is landlocked
>Czechs were heavily overrepresented in Austrian navy
really makes you think

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>>1758539
>>1757571
>>1757551
Gott erhalte, Gott beschütze Unsern Kaiser, unser Land tbqh

Have a song made at Verdun and about Verdun /his/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj3n02CQJiU

>>1746613
Who is to blame for this? How did the West get to this point? Why is my history being distorted, why am I now the enemy in my own homeland?

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>>1769507
>>1758539
I just love the unique aesthetic and general feel of late 19th century/pre WW1 House Habsburg and Austria-Hungary in general.

not sure why but it just makes me feel pretty nostalgic

>>1742865
>yet ANOTHER butthurt hisweenie complaining about UK

>>1759748
>Americans are entirely to blame for WW2
Please elaborate

>>1769510
Verdun was fucking hardcore
Especially that anecdote

https://youtu.be/6kVZYp6jH7U?t=168

From 2:45 to 4:22
It sounds like Napoleonic Wars stuff

>>1741129
Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTtDVzjgVc

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>Conflict singlehandedly steered the west into the direction of the dejected society we live in
>Is commemorated by some furfag drawing his persona aiding the assasination of Prince Ferdinand

>>1769678
>tfw Ferdinand d'Este was probably the single ruler that could unJUST Austria-Hungary if war did not break out

>>1769642
>After March 1916, along the 72 km (45 mi) of the "Voie Sacrée", transport vehicles were on the move day and night ferrying troops, armaments, and supplies to the Verdun battlefield. During the initial crisis of 21 February to 22 March, 600 trucks per day had already delivered 48,000 tons of ammunition, 6,400 tons of other material and 263,000 men to the battlefield. Beginning on February 21, all horse drawn traffic and troop movements on foot had been ordered off the road leaving it open for truck and motor car traffic only. After March 1916, one truck passed every 14 seconds, submitting the road to considerable wear and tear. Quarries had to be opened nearby to supply the road with crushed stone

A literal human meat grinder.

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>>1769678

Let's commemorate it with anime pepes instead

>>1769678
wtf

WW1 was worse to humanity on the whole than the Holocaust.

Prove me wrong.

anyone know where I can find an English sub version of Capitaine Conan (Tavernier, 96)? tryna get those chasseurs alpines feels senpai

>>1769719
this statement is true and I generally consider myself proisrael jewshill

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>>1769678
>WE NEED REINFURSCEMENTS!

>>1769678
Finally fucking found it lads

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>>1769776
Holy fucking shit it's a pain navigating my folder to find it let alone having to find it again after forgetting to attach it

>>1769719

I agree. I'd go so far as to say WW1 was worse for humanity on the whole than WW2. WW2 put the finishing cap on issues that resonate today (Creation of Israel, cold war's start) but which were rooted in WW1 (Balfour, Russian revolution, balkans). WW2 exhausted the colonial powers yet WW1 began the momentum for the brown, black and yellow races of the world beginning to find their pride and a sense of nationalism or communism to galvanize their revolutions. The colonial powers would have been better poised to put down rebellions in their colonies without the exhaustion of WW2, yet decolonialization could in turn have happened more gradually and more softly without the sudden withdrawals - or the sectarianism brought on by Communism given an international sponsor with the Russian Revolution.

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>>1769787

>>1769719
Your post is nothing more than base power ranking retardation applied in the hope it will drive the thread off topic into shitposting.

Prove me wrong.

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Remember boys, despite the horrors, war is a glorious thing.

I have a lot of sympathy for those who argue that WW1 was the end of civilization in any meaningful sense, however. More to the point, it ushered in the age of the Last Man in perpetuity.

>>1769817
Who's the philosopher Nietzische is throttling?

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I made this one night a couple weeks back.

The war saddens me so.

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>>1769849
I keked heartily.

>>1746946
I'd go for this one instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj3n02CQJiU
But I'm a biased frog

>>1769875
I already posted it femme.
>>1769510

>>1741109
>Great-Great grandad Slavic immigrant from KuK
>Given US citizenship and shipped out to France (77th brigade)
>Meanwhile his two brothers are fighting in Italy
>One brother dies leaving 2 branches of family, one in Trst and one in NYC
>European family has largely disappeared
>Inheritors of an ancient Slavic name now live almost exclusively in the USA
I'm not sure how to feel about this

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>>1768906

How about a leaflet from the 2nd Canadian Division asking his men to swear less?

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>>1769937

And a photo of a British Royal Flying Corps pilot serving on the Italian front.

>>1746946
Poor choice of music. unlike what modern liberal propaganda tries to sell you, most soldiers weren't in this mindset. It's pure fabrication.

>>1757591
The reason for the red pants was political pork. It was the consequence of parliamentarians lobbying to get the army to buy the overproduction of dyers.

>>1769937
>Canada as a nation will largely drive her inspiration after the war from those who have faced death and pain and hardship to preserve her civilization and her liberty
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Quebec maybe, but not Canada.

>>1769937
That's pretty funny

>>1760495
> numerical superiority
> mountain terrain and WWI

t. someone who never studied WWI.
Plus, Italians on average attacked more often than any other army in the war and they suffered astonishing casualties fighting on one front.
Moreover, it took 5 years to the entire British and French empires to defeat a sea-blockaded, starving and two-fronts fighting Germany in a much better terrain, so little to say there.

>>1762707
more exactly
> they put the fucking Harlem hellfighters
> not the French or the Russian

One meme regiment (fighting for the French) and not the two major Allied powers next to the UK.

>>1762739
lel he is manning the MG into position.

>>1748768
Who cares, metal is shit.

>>1760819
[citation needed]

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>>1741109
>tfw nobody cares or remembers anymore that Russia participated in this mass butchering
>tfw it was all for naught

>>1759748
Stop trying to pin blame on others.

>>1770038
They didn't?
>muh Vimy

>>1769988
Is this that /pol/ "'e literally only read (a summary of) Storm of Steel meme again?

>>1770307
"I've literally only read Storm of Steel"*

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>>1770203
>next to the UK.

France is actually the leading allied power of WW1, above the UK

>>1769787
>furry spirit helps Niko Bellic assassinate Archduke Mario

>>1742865
>the war wasn't in their country

That's rather the point. It's one thing when you're repelling an invader, but what's the point of dying horribly in somebody else's war with no reason for you to be involved?

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>>1762634
>they put in Italy
>done literally nothing but open up jobs for Austrian munitions factories

>>1768958
That doesn't sound like a burger.

>>1760523
This couldn't possibly be more wrong.

>>1759110
Early in the war the French still had retarded coloured uniforms.

>>1769829
Immanuel K

Soldiers on the lines could tell whose artillery was being fired by sound, and even by the munition type that was being fired.

>>1769058

I dont think the Hungarians were that bad for the empire. What happened I think was more a case of a string of ineffectual monarchs that never integrated the Hungarians into the political sphere. Also Austria should have blobbed into Bavaria, a very wealthy state.

>>1770714

They actually held back KuK from actually joining the war. KuK had some real issues dealing with rough mountainous terrain. Serbia shrekt'd them pretty hard and the same thing happened back and forth across Italian mountains.

>>1770038
This was true up until the late 70s

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>>1741109
ww1 is the most depressing war in history

>>1770255
Any good accounts of the eastern front. Any films or docs?

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Writing a paper of Russia in WW1 right now for a 300 level Russian history class. Its depressing to read the scholarly essays and books while looking at the wikipedia battle results.

>>1769496
whut? care to explain?

>>1753711
Yes.

>>1757287
Said it best. It really shows the mindset difference between then and now. It does it all without getting grandstanding and whiny, as the British perspective of the war seems to be.

>>1753711
Yep, read a German edition with the first and final revised edition side-by-side.

It seemed the first edition was more linear, with the final being more interspersed with small extra stories with varying degrees of relatedness mixed in.

The final edition seems more complete, but also a little more opinionated.

>>1768906
Found a couple of spent austrian artillery shells in the Dolomites. Unfortunately don't have them here to take a picture

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>>1763693
Yes. The 369th served under French command and wore their helmets, though they shouldn't be wearing their uniform. You can clearly see here that they're wearing Adrians.