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What is the border of Europe, in ethnocultural terms?

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What is the border of Europe, in ethnocultural terms?
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There is no such thing as "Europe", it doesn't exist either ethnically or culturally or in any other way.
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>>1717873
Depends on the time period.
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Europe ends where the churches end


some german dude said that and he was right
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>>1717873
Europe is a spook
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>>1717886
But there are churches in every corner of the world, even china or Africa.
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>>1717886
by those logic the middle east is also europe
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Turkey and the Ural Mountains
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>>1717893
>>1717896

Since you insist on being pedantic, Europe ends where there's no longer a church steeple in every town and village. But honestly its intended metaphorically.
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>>1717873
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The Bosporus, the Caucasus and the Urals
also
>>1717887
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>>1717910
>>>/pol/
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>>1717953
Yeah I'm sure Ireland isn't Europe now...

fuck you
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>>1717953
>>>/reddit/
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>>1717955
The ol Reddit Switcheroo
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Pre Isam it stopped at the Sahara desert to the south, and the steppes/greater persia to the east

Post Islam the Mediterranean
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Europe is a concept that changes every few hundred years.
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>>1717953

>>>/lgbt/
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>>1717908
>Since you insist on being pedantic, Europe ends where there's no longer a church steeple in every town and village.

So most of Africa is in Europe. Ok.

>But honestly its intended metaphorically.

A metaphor for what?
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>>1717932
>present core
>present
>argument based on centuries old banter
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>>1717873
All countries with nordic, germanic or latin languages are european.
All the others are not. The former border to the soviet union was actually a pretty good distinguisher.
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>>1717932
>that map
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The rest is just noise.
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>>1718009

Confirmed for never having been to Africa

Also Africa is divided by a natural border from Europe so you can never end up in Africa starting from Europe. Churches represent Christianity. Obviously the statement is meant to convey "Europe ends where Christianity ends and Islam begins".

If you make one more post forcing me to talk like I'm explaining to a 12 year old, I wont respond.
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>>1718046
>sweden and norway
>not europe
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>>1718046
The nordics are much more similar to germanics than germanics are to iberians. Even their language has the same roots. Historically the romans never really went beyond the rhine so the germans and the nords belong together.

>>1718051
>you can never end up in Africa starting from Europe
You can literally walk from europe to africa. Natural boarder my ass. If you wanna take a shortcut you can even fucking swim there.
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>>1718052
>>1718075
Nordic countries are irrelevant noise, they might as well not exist.
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>>1717910
>no georgia
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Warsaw pact
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>>1718080
I guess you're fine without modern chemistry and biology then
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>>1718532
Things created by Frenchmen and Brits? No why would I be?
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>>1717873
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>>1718080
>>1718532
>>1718571
This fucking board is more cancerous than /pol/ and /int/ merged together.

I thought this is a history board not retard board,
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>>1718606
Sorry, are we disturbing you wanking over Karl Marx and Jared Diamond?
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>>1718080
Then why include Denmark?
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>>1718610
No you are disturbing the already bad quality of this board with your /int/tier discussion
Why does 4chan always has to be so immature?
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>>1718616
Vikings and Niels Bohr I guess.
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>>1718624
Why don't you try making posts that aren't shit then instead of whining like a little bitch?
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>Slavs
>European
No
>Russians
>Europeans
No
>Greek Orthodox
>European
No
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>>1717932
>be English
>not European
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>>1718610
>>1718634
That's exactly what I mean.

You can't fucking discuss anything here that isn't Germany and Nazi related.
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>>1718634
Why should I if you only man childs like you respond?
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>>1718657
Get the fuck back to /pol/.
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>>1718661
>abloobloo
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>>1718670
not an argument
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>>1717873
There is no geographical Europe its literally a piece of the same continent as Asia since its on the same plate as Asia.
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>>1718686
that's why he said ethnocultural you dipshit
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>>1718680
Is this board crawling with frogs or what is that shitty meme about?
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>>1718670
LOL you really baited me there lad xd TOP KEK you fucking nu male cuck faggot xDD
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>>1718693
There is even less of an ethnocultural Europe you waste of cum.
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>>1718702
>I shitpost because nobody appreciates my imaginary good posts yet simultaneously complain about posting quality

You're pathetic, kill yourself.
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>>1718703

Well, there are people who consider themselves to be European, to begin with.
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>>1718697
it's when you want to have the last word but the discussion has literally devolved into namecalling and memes
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>>1718710
"Europe" is just a retarded meme. What does Belarus have in common with Spain, or Bulgaria with Ireland? And only a couple of people particularly brainwashed by the EU would say they're "European", it's the same as being a "world citizen".
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See you guys l8r
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>>1718724

>Ohnoiamwrong!
Cry me a river
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>>1718730
>Oh God I can't stop sucking dicks!

OK cool m8, I didn't really need to know that but whatever.
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>>1717932
>ISTANBUL: "Damn her, the whore! Sleeping with the Turks."
The butthurt is eternal.
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>>1718709
>I can't understand critic
Also arguing with you is pointless
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>>1718746
>still shitposting as hard as possible
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>>1717873
True Europe was defeated in 1945. There's no future for the region anymore.
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>>1717910
Niggerstan XD
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>>1718792
There never was a true europe.
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>>1718792
>>>/pol/
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>>1718792
Teach me how to be a cool and edgy naziboo like you!
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>>1717873
Half of asia is multiculturaly european (russia).

>>1717886
would describe it best as it is civilization primarly based on romano-christian values
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>>1718571

Anders Celsius
Carl von linné

bait harder
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>>1718835
Oh wow, one guy who came up with a temperature scale and one guy who came up with a bunch of names for plants, really amazing scientific achievements there snow nigger. The fact you actually consider that science alone shows just how far removed you are from the concept.
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>>1717873
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>>1718806
>y-your belief isn't correct and its t-triggering me

>>1718806
This isn't your leftypol /lit/ safe space buddy
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>>1718724
Belarussians are the same human breed as Spaniards and Bulgarians. You guys are fucktards that dont realize racial connections goes back to 22,000 years ago.
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>>1718869
>This isn't your leftypol /lit/ safe space buddy
No, this is /his/

Some boards you may enjoy are;
>>/b/
>>/tv/
>>/pol/
>>/r9k/

Thank me later mate
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>>1718606
Obviously it's because all the leftists bronswing it.

Can you imagine it if /his/ had as much traffic and as much time of existence as /pol/ of today? It would be so fucking worse.

In my sociological interpretation, the fact that /a/ and /pol/ still manage to be decent boards while just behind /b/ in total user traffic means that anime and national socialism are the keys for a superior society
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>>1718842
Yea, coming up with the temperature scale that almost the entire world uses is nonsense. Alfred nobel is also nonsense. kys. You lanky faggot
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>>1718897
>/pol/ still manage to be decent boards
I hope you like frogs and debates over nationalities whitness
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>>1718697
>>1718939
what do you mean with frogs? Frenchmen or pepes
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>>1718944
The frogs that green text with feel man
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>>1718547
>Georgia
>Europe
HAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA
You're genetically exactly the same as sand niggers.
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>>1719182
Anon do you know where georgia is located?
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orange = historical highly urbanized areas

light blue + connected orange = western/northern European trade zone

purple + the above = generally accepted as part of the western world with little ambiguity

not that someone Portuguese has more in common with a Swede than an Andalusian, more like the light blue region would be more familiar with Lisbon than Granada, a slightly looser definition might include Granada

green + the above = strongly influenced by western europe through history, mainly through trade, sometimes remaining distinct culturally or having a low population

blue + the above = christendom, may encompass pockets of muslims and jews

red + istanbul = meds not included in the above
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>>1719392
light blue is regions with a lot of trade and population more like, maybe I should have included more of the UK, hmm
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"Africa begins at the Pyrenees" - Napoleon
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>>1719182
No the Georgis and Armenis are more related to the original inhabitants of Uzbeckistan who were Caucasoid individuals before the gooks came and raped them into those Eurasian freaks you see today.
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>>1718875
lmao, yeah we're all the same in Europe but also totally different from anyone in the Levant, hurr
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>>1718922
They're not scientific achievements you pathetic idiot. They're literally just autism.
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quality thread here lads!

I'd just like to point out that Europe begins and ends in Mecklenburg.

Sieg hiel, 88mm and all that jazz
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Exactly here
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>>1719406
"Russia? no problem" - Napoleon
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>>1718075
>The nordics are much more similar to germanics than germanics are to iberians.
Nordics are Germanics
Except for Finns, they're only partly Germanic
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>>1719729
except the russians there were no problem fucking filthy mongol rapebabies
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that's how I see it
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There is none. The concept of "Europe" as a distinct continent is inane (don't give me that crap about it being culturally distinct due to Christianity, that came out of Asia, and if we're going to make continents based on culture, then the Indian subcontinent should be considered it's own continent separate from the rest of Asia).
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>>1718835
>Polon
>Rad
>French
wew lad
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>>1717873
in historical terms, your map as is comes very close
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>>1720010
>central europe
you're a slavshit aren't you
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>>1720010
Pretty nice.

Though I am not sure about Northern Italy, the way I see it you can argue both ways.
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>>1720153
Boldly including Western Turkey. I like it.
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>>1720010
>central europe
>existing
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>>1720153
I presume you're including Western Turkey due to it being ethnically Greek originally, but if that is you're angle then you have to include all of Anatolia, it was all Greek until the Turks invaded
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>>1719406
The sentence is actually by Dumas who was a literal nigger.

Napoleon actually annexed parts of the peninsula to France since he believed the natural border to be the Ebro, not the Pyrenees.
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>>1720200
It's not by Dumas either, nice job countering a meme with another meme.
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>>1720259
>check it
>it's true
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Pretty simple
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>>1720340
>Protestants
tippitty top kek
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>>1717910
>Implying Caucasus isn't mostly Orthodox
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>>1720356
The Philipines is christian as well yet not european or white
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>>1717873
Just make multiple Europe.

I like Europe so much, I wish there were multiple Europe.
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The Dardanelles and Bosporus in the southeast, the Caucasus mountains and the Urals in the east, and the strait of Gibraltar in the west
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>>1720496
This is not where the caucasus is friend
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Ethnoculturally but not geographically, Europe is everything from Gibraltar to Vladivostok, and the northern tip of Scandinavia to the Bospherous.

Germans, Nords, Slavs, Celts, Magyars, Balts, and Latins, are all equally European. There is no part of Europe that is "more European" than another, that is the objective answer.

But this is just another /int/ fuckfest so who am I kidding.
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ethnically - whole northern hemisphere + argentina

culturally - i'm not so sure, we may have to exclude the mestizos and overtly oriental states and places such as bosnia, albania and northern siberia.
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>>1720496
>georgia
Givi, my son...
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>>1720607
Close enough
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>>1718051
Christianity is massive in Africa.
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>>1717910
>is that Constantinople on the sandniggeristan side?
>western Anatolia not being european?
RIGHTFUL GREEK CLAY REEEEEEEEE
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>>1717932
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>>1718046
>claiming iberia & italy but rejecting Crete & Greece as Western Europe
2016 /his/

you're noise
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>>1717932
>that Byron quote for Greece
>fourteen years later he died fighting for the Greeks in their war for independence
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>>1718792
a pulse of history
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>>1717908
>>1717886
Lebanon is European?
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>>1717873
t bactrician
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>>1720186
>>1720199
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>>1721213
Why don't you also include Turkey, Syria, and Egypt in Europe then you stupid idiot?
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>>1718869
>This isn't your leftypol /lit/ safe space buddy
Follow your leader.

>>1718882
why are /r9k/ and /tv/ lumped alongside /pol/?
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Just a friendly reminder that people from the Caucasus are not European
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>>1721625
We're like Europeans with big noses and the occasional brown skin.
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>>1721446
>turkey part of europe
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It doesn't matter too much desu. Trying to arrange cultures into ethnic categories really just a bunch of stamp collecting stuff.
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>>1717873
Just find a language map.
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>>1720356
>>1721187

My map isn't 100% accurate
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Europe does not exist, but Great ASIA did, Asia is much better than europe, they all just take the. we are more culture rich and far more intelligent than all of you stupid westerners...
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>>1717910
What about Vladivostok, it's predominately inhabited by ethnic Russians.
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>>1717886
>>1717893
>>1717896
>>1721298
The actual quote specifies gothic church iirc so europe ends at Istanbul?
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>>1722065
In that case it ends at Germany. Which is accurate.
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>>1717932
Its the kind of meme map where you almost get everything right, then you look at your own nation, and realize that the most important part of Norway is missing: The fucking archdiocese of Nidaros
Realistically there would be dots for Oslo, Bergen and Trondheim, and the rest of Norway would be uninked.
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>>1720013
Christianity is not European culture,celtic and polytheistic shit is European culture along with folk dancing and various mannerly ideals.
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>>1722074
There are gothic churches in Istanbul though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St._Anthony_of_Padua,_Istanbul
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>>1722074
>>1721994
>>1717873
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>>1722087
>built by the local Italian community
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>>1722080
Catholicism is European.
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>>1722080
>celtic and polytheistic shit
Pretty sure Celts were polytheistic as well desu
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>>1720010
>Scotland is Nordic
>Denmark isn't
>Finland isn't western, even though it culturally identifies as such, and historically has always been a western country.
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>>1722104
probably because of the uralic language, and no magyars (hungars), russia-sino turkoid etc
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>>1722108
Regardless of language though, the culture is profoundly western.
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>>1722111
the number one sniper in the world, from finland in wwii, is distinctly mongoloid
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>>1722094
So like every church in italy?
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>>1722113
I'm talking politics, retard.
I lived in Finland (and now I live back in Canacuck) and sure, there are a few Mongy looking people, but the vast majority of Finns don't have such an appearance.
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>>1722115
Yes, and? If some Chinese immigrants build a pagoda in your country, does that make you Chinese now?
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>>1722118
oh ok nm then
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Africa begins at the Pyrenees and ends at the Rhine
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>>1722121
>moving the goalposts
But yeah if you define china as where the last pagoda is, then it does.
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>>1722146
well, australia does eternally stand true to its terra-nullis classification

you cant own something if theres no property rights, or ur a slave, or in any way willing to compromise or play in shades of grey
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>>1722146
So the whole world is China and also Europe. Brilliant dipshit.
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>>1720200
Don't insult Dumas
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>>1722080
>Christianity is not European culture
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>>1720643
This guy is right
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>>1721625

So Sephardics are white?
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>>1722180
Yes post an atheist meme pic to one that advocates for more paganism you fucking retard.
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>>1722104
>finland is western because it was a capitalist country
>scotland has no distinct nordic culture
>denmark is nordic, simply because they speak simillar language to swedes and norway

ebin, simply ebin
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>>1720643
>Germans, Nords, Slavs, Celts, Magyars, Balts, and Latins, are all equally European

Wrong. Southern Europeans have more West and Southwest Asian admixture
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>>1722180
Christianity is a universal religion.
It doesn't belong to any particular continent.
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There is nothing "European" other than the land mass
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>>1722236
And?

It's widely accepted Europeans are derived from the 3 great tribes
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>>1722180
It's not

t. Iraqi Christian
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>>1722240
Yes but like all universal organizations the majority who run and have powers are the "owners".
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I am what Europe is, and where the fuck I feel like going is where Europe is
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>>1721714
Genetically you're a typical sand nigger.
Some sand niggers can look white, but they're still genetic garbage. That's the camp you belong to churka sand nigger.
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The rest are basically niggers
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>>1723646
This is just stupid Bjorn.
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>>1723649
Hello Spain, Italy, Greece or worse.
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>>1723646
Sven pls.
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>>1723646
>>1723665
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>south
mediterranean
>east
borders of russia
>southeast
turkey
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>>1723853
>borders of russia
So St Petersberg isn't European but Minsk or Chisinau are?
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>>1723909
If it's filled with Russians, it's not European.

inb4 hurr durr this and this regions have Russian people in there
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>>1723925
>If it's filled with Russians, it's not European.
>because I said so

fucking retard
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>>1717873
Cut out andalusia sicili abd slavs and its perfect.
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I am feeling that Russia should be part of Europe, but to claim that Europe end in fucking Siberia is bit to much for me. Maybe Europe just dissolves, fades away slowly step by step, the more deeper in Russian lands you are.
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>>1724089
Europe = wesyer europeans labds settled by wester europeans.
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>>1724102
Europe is a people not a land.
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>>1717910
cringe
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Europe ends at the Urals, Georgia, the Bosporus and the strait of Gibraltar. Europe is a geographical term, you stupid niggers.
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>>1724089
found the russian
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>>1719392
>paints historical highly urbanized areas orange
>Ruhr area is light blue
>but Western Pomerania is orange
nice map you made there
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>>1724111
People are speaking europe not land, why would land borders matter if not for the meanung of populaces, what is thought of europe ends at borders with andalusia south italy, hungary, poland, russia.
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>>1724131
cringe
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The borders for euro world are finland austria middle spain, middle italy, germany.
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>>1724154
cringe
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>>1724154
The euro world endsvthere.

Everything elsevare different worlds.
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>>1724161
World
1. noun
the earth, together with all of its countries, peoples, and natural features.
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>>1724172
Evrrything else is a different world.
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>europeans
>european
nice try
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>>1717957
>>1718004
Not saying nigger is now leddit huh? Fuck off
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>>1719612
>Dynamite
>Not a scientific achievement
What is wrong with you?
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>>1724687
Not op but it's good for the military, science not so much. B8 harder
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>>1722080
It's not native to European culture, but it is undeniably a big chunk of Europe's culture. I just don't think that Christian culture is enough to denote Europe as a continent, which is a term that should be describing geographical features, not cultural features.
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>>1721446
2 bold
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>>1724700
>It serves a military purpose
>It is not a scientific achievement
So for something to considered a scientific achievement it can only be useful from a scientific point of view? No matter if it is an achievement brought forth by science?
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This is Europe.
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>>1724687
>the entire Scandinavian peninsula invented literally just one thing, which is just an improvement on already existing nitroglycerin

American nigger peanut butter tier.
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>>1717873
made a new meme
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>>1717886
So Armenia is European? Is Cyprus European but only on the southern half?
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>>1718875
Europeans were mostly dark skinned fucks with more Neanderthal DNA 22,000 years ago, they didn't become racially similar to what we have now until invaders and farmers came from the Middle East, the Levant, and South Russia.
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>>1723624
They're the same fucking race as you, cuckasian.

>blacks try to include everyone into their race, despite evidence
>whites/caucasians kick out anyone who doesn't seem to be, despite evidence

Are Asians the only normal people?
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>>1719392
>Cordova
>not urbanized
>nor madrid
largest city in Europe at one point
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>>1725192
Largest city in muslim world*
As a spaniard that land and peoples were conquered by arabs it was arabia not europe at the time.
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>>1725236
Berbers aren't Arabs
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>>1725245
Berbers wrte conquered by arabs as well.
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>>1725245
The language was arabic.

And religion islsm, and it was arabs who conquered south\central iberia.
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>>1719182
you realize georgia isn't included in that image, right?
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>>1717873

Europe starts at the pyranesse, ends at the rhine and sure as hell doesn't cross the channel.
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>>1725447
So you're saying Europe solely consists of France?

kek
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>>1725449
Also Andorra, Belgium and Luxembourg.
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>>1725136
Farmers did have Neandertal DNA
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>>1725136
Either way those farmers came from Anatolia, Not the Levant or Mesopotamia, the farmers in Anatolia were genetically very distinct from those in the Levant or in Iraq
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>>1720340
Lebanon is orthodox/maronite, not protestant numbnuts.
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>>1718625
Swedes and Norwegians were vikings too.
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>>1725682
>the farmers in Anatolia were genetically very distinct from those in the Levant or in Iraq

[citation needed]
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>>1717932
Czechia approves
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>>1724672
No, but getting offended and triggered by a guy saying "nigger" in 4chan is pretty reddit m8
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>>1725925
You're a huge tard

I love how you didn't bother to check because you're so sure of your knowledge of anthropology which you got entirely from 4chan and eupedia, eitherway I'm going to spoonfeed you since you're too lazy to do a quick google search:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/worlds-first-farmers-were-surprisingly-diverse

>Burger and Reich also each used their data to peer even further back in time, to the ancestors of the Zagros Mountain farmers. They found that the Zagros people descend from a group of basal Eurasians who separated from the ancestors of all other people outside of Africa 50,000 to 60,000 years ago—before other non-Africans interbred with Neandertals. So the Zagros Mountain farmers had less Neandertal DNA than the western Anatolian farmers, whose ancestors must have branched off later.

>ut the ancient Iranian DNA was dramatically different from that of the western Anatolian farmers. The two groups of farmers, who lived about 2000 kilometers and 2000 years apart, must have descended from completely different groups of hunter-gatherers who separated 46,000 to 77,000 years ago, Burger says.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30850-8
http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/06/16/059311

>1. Anatolia_N (precursors of mainline European Neolithic) are a mix of both West Asian farmer groups, plus a sizable fraction of Western Paleo-european ancestry already.

>2. This fraction of Western Paleoeuropeanness increases as the farmers expanded into Europe (EN) and then as there was probably some backflow of Western origins in relation to Megalithism and Bell Beaker (MNChL). But in general remains the same basic genetic composition and in no known case incorporates any Eastern Paleoeuropean component at all, not yet.
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>>1724775
The Baltic sea have always looked like a slacker with a huge dick pissing on russia. To me at least.
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>>1725914
But they were completely irrelevant ones, the Danes were niggers but at least they conquered a few things.
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A simple circle can encompass true europe
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>>1727099
rome isn't even on there
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>>1727099
>Rome isn't Europe
>the Shetlands are
okay
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>>1727099
Santander is Europe NOW.
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>>1717881
this
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>>1727115
>>1727119
Have any of you Americans even been to Rome?
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anywhere in the old world where a centum, balto-slavic or uralic language predominates
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>>1717873
Oder-Neiße
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>>1717873
Moscow
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>>1717881
Holy shit, only worthwhile reply, right here. Everybody else here is just spewing autistic drivel.
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>>1726916
Nobody is offended. Remember where you are. They just think you are a dipshit.
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>>1727099
Includes ireland
LOL
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>>1718636
>Russians
>not slavs

kill yourself faggot
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>>1717875
t. Jew
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>>1717953
Not an argument.
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>>1717875
>hurr durr it's a spectrum so colors don't exist
Idiotic.
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>>1717873
I unironically believe "Real" Europe is only Western Europe, the Carolingian Core that later built the colonial Empires.

Eastern Europe (and everything east of the red line) is ethno-culturally Eurasian, which is distinct because of the influence from all the migratory peoples from the Eastern Eurasian steppes and the direct influence of the Levant in the South, and the unique Slavic/Turkic/Finnic blend.

This isn't a bad thing meant as an insult to those people and as a praise to the West, quite the contrary.
Nations like Poland, Finland and Hungary may be Western in their religion but they are still Eastern in their ethnic essence.
The contribution of all the Eastern "European" nations is frequently minimized and they are treated as a periphery of the stronger West, despite then pro-Western obsession of many of those people.

The other bad thing is that the idea of a common Eurasian identity has been hijacked by Russian interests.
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>>1731221
> colonial Empires
> Germany
> Italy
> fucking Sweden
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>>1731239
>the countries that later built the colonial empires + their satellites/vassals/spheres of influence/regions that were oriented towards the West

You get the point.
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>>1731239
>Sweden
They did have overseas colonies in the 17-19th centuries. Not as significant as the others, but they did.
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>>1731221
How would you explain Eurasian, do you seriously believe that finn has more in common with greek tahn with swede slovene with russian than with austrian etc.
That line you crossed is arbitrary line made at the end of ww2 + finland.

And finally
>greece
>not europe
Whole european civilization draws its roots from there, and yet Norway is more "european"
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>>1731221
>Nations like Poland, Finland and Hungary may be Western in their religion but they are still Eastern in their ethnic essence.
Please validate this with anything but dumb map with r1a and r1b halpogroup. You literarly couldnt recognize hungarian from switz if they stood near each other.
Your understanding of ethnic groups is around century backward
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>>1731335
Genes are scientifically real, recognizing by look is blatant racism.
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>>1731322
It doesn't mean that people from geographical extremes are literally related, it's a continuum.
A Finn has more in common with Northern Russians and Estonians, which have more in common with Poles, Belorussian and Ukrainians, which have more in common with Romanians and Slovaks and so on.
And it just so happens Finns and Hungarians are very close even thought they are geographically apart .

And yes, currently Norway is more "European".
The split between the Eastern and Western Roman Empire was deep and this is why Greek are now distinct from the West.
Btw I also think the whole "Byzantium wasn't Roman" meme is bullshit.

>>1731335
It's about culture and historical heritage, not about haplogroups or physical appearance.
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>>1731408
Whole europe is continuum, there is no hard separate border between european cultures where you can say there one stops and next begins (maybe orthodox catholic, but that doesnt have anything with what you are trying to say).
Can you name anything that divides europe as you imagine it?
Have you ever traveld through europe or studied its history?
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>>1731982
>language and ethnicity
European: mostly Germanic and Romance with Germanic admixture, plus some Celtic remnants
Eurasian: mostly Slavic, Turkic, Finnic, Greek with some Finnic and Romance with Slav admixture

>religion
European: Catholic and Protestant, with the mention that most of the Catholic parts of Western Europe had already been Christian well before 1000 CE
It contains the center of Catholicism and the birth place or the Reformation
Importance of religion is declining

Eurasian: most of the Orthodox world, the Catholic parts had to be converted later than Western Europe, the Reformation was mostly an import from the West
Religion is an important part of life

>society
European: the most socially liberal in the world, declining cultural traditions
Eurasian: mostly socially conservative, more traditional culture and values

>history
European: build large and powerful empires in the last 1000 yeas, many also established colonies
Empire building
Countries that carried out numerous invasions and projected power
West European languages were spread all around the world

Eurasian: many nations that had to fight for independence from larger empires
Struggle for self-determination
Resistance against foreign invasions
Languages had to resist assimilation efforts

Of course there's nuance and exceptions, but this is the general tendency. I also don't necessarily think everything East is good or perfect.
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>>1731982
>>1732217
>urbanization
European: heavily urbanized, rural areas are mostly relics for tourism
Eurasian: urbanized but also has huge rural areas that are the home of modern peasantry
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>>1717873
All over the world.
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>>1717886
Korea is European confirmed
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>>1717873
This, actually
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>>1717910
>-istan
>anatolia, north africa, middle east

retard
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>>1732620
>Good = Western

Your jape only proves this to be a falsehood when you're calling the good parts of eastern europe 'western'
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>>1732620
Agreed
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