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/pcbg/ - PC Building general

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if you want help:
>Assemble parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - If you need multithreading
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use, not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>VEGA
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
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>>62467382
Dailys REMINDERS RYPOO IS SHITTY

>>62466570
>>62466777
>>62466777
>>62466777
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>got sniped again

Just fucking kill me.
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Which one is better /pcbg/? My use: I'm not going to be pushing much with them, a r3 1200 and a 1050 (maybe 570) at most. Nothing fancy like lighting, rgb or extra fans.
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>>62467508
forget to mention I have both laying around, the cooler master is beat to hell and a few years old while the evga is in good condition
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>>62467418
To be fair the devs can't make up their mind

They say "moar cores/threads" which Ryzen gives in spades then turn around and show videos on OC'd i5s pushing 100% usage.
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>>62467527
What emulators say "moar cores/threads"? I haven't really been following the scene much, but last I heard single-core performance is what always mattered the most in emulation.
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I'm looking to upgrade my storage. What's the current market for SSDs like? Should I get a 1TB one, or is that stupid right now?
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>>62467508
the evga one, plus its a single rail design
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>mfw gpu prices
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i've been checking different local stores where i live, and in one they sell:
AMD RYZEN 7 1700 for 367 usd, and the Ryzen 7 1700x for 400 usd. Is it worth getting the 1700x considering the price difference?
Hell, in some places the 1700x is at 490 usd, with that difference of cash i could get a decent cpu cooler.
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>>62467382
>flannel shirt
>concerned with video games
>city dweller
man child detected
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is 120hz the perfect setting for a monitor? divides 24,30, & 60fps evenly.
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>>62468017
you should wait for intel coffee lake
5th october
even if you are still going for amd, its likely the prices will drop

with 1700x vs 1700, its about overclocking
1700x gives you some extra hz without the need for OC
and you should know that ryzen in windows does not downclock for most mobos, so if you OC to 3.9 it stays at that frequency at idle
though what should be also said that I have wattmeter and when I oced there was no obvious difference between idle on OC and idle on stock, nor temps didnt look any different. Its kinda strange. When I have gpu that does not downclock its temps are 20°C higher...

anyway I am on linux and there it seems to downclock no problem, dunno whats up with that.
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>>62467382
I gave up and bought a GTX 1060. Fuck Canadian market, cannot find any Radeon cards for decent price. Even the RX 550 is overpriced.
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>>62467680
To add on to this, I never did get the hang of hard disc brands/types. What's a good 3/4TB HDD? I'll probably buy two and RAID-1 them for some proper redundancy - after years of avoiding drive failure, I figure I've stretched my luck far enough.
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>>62468312
I've only had WD Green die on me after 4 straight years of 16 hrs a day while serving as a boot drive and everything else.
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>>62467680
Use the PC part picker thing that lets you see $/mb
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>>62467680
>>62468312
>What's the current market for SSDs like? Should I get a 1TB one, or is that stupid right now?
heard the prices will go up and there will be shortage
from kingston representative, two weeks ago
already felt the rice of ssd prices and lack of availability this year compared to previous ones where they were just dropping
mostly its about millions of consumer notebooks and PCs going for ssds while no new nand factories were build

so yeah, buy some I would say

as for ssd I personally had good experience with WD Reds, I like that the most because they are relatively cheap and very quiet, had few others in my case...
but reliability wise, backblaze stats tell use hitachi - hgst is the way to go
hms5c4040ale640
hms5c4040ble640
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Rehoused my shitbox.
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>>62468335
>WD Green
I've heard that green is bad for some reason. I'd love a quick rundown on everything.

Cheapest option I can see is a Toshiba P300 at £70 for 3TB, while everything else is £80+. Meanwhile 4TB starts from £100 for some reason, despite the gaps between 1, 2, and 3TB being like £10 at most.

>>62468398
as for ssd I personally had good experience with WD Reds,
I assume you meant HDDs.
Thanks for the tips though, I'll keep that in mind
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>>62467680
I've been looking at SanDisk 1 tb SSD, as well as m.2 storage. I have a 250 gig boot ssd with some games on it, and a 500 gig ssd with a bunch more games on it, but I think I need to add a 1 tb SSD and get rid of the 1 tb HDD that I haven't used at all
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>>62468416
>larger than microATX
in to the trash it goes
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>>62468398
Wat?
The majority of people here buy Sata III NAND SSD's, the influx to notebooks are almost all going to m.2, since for gaming you won't notice a difference. Desktop SSD's are still fine, in fact the Samsung 850 Evo's have been dropping in price, you can find a 500gb one for 149 on newegg as we speak though it was 139 a few weeks ago. Is there more sauce to that claim than a rep from Kingston?
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>>62468454
It is a SMALL full-ATX case. That's an ITX board in there. This is the previous shitbox.
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>See Americans with "cheap" builds
>Even get based rebates
>Change price to GBP
>About 70% of the parts are unavailable
>The 30% that are available cost more than the whole American build
>No based rebates
>Finally make meme build
>Comes to £700
>Only £550 in America

Why do we get JUSTed?
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>>62468551
How's Brexit working out for you?
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>>62468563
Haven't left yet. But desu I would rather pay £1500 for the same build if it meant not being in the EU.
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>>62468470
form factor or connection type or whatever makes zero difference
and I am from europe, so it might be bit different here
but where I work we were selling cheap 120GB for around 55€ to end consumer at the beggining of the year, now its 68€ though there was slight drop few weeks back before it again went up

kingston guy might have been bullshiting but who knows, I just really doubt that if anon buys now ssd the prices would be significantly better in few months, though with large cappacities... who knows

also btw, dunno how its in US but g4560 is completely gone from the market and sold out for like 4 months now...

also this triggers me all the time
>The majority of people here buy Sata III NAND SSD's, the influx to notebooks are almost all going to m.2, since for gaming you won't notice a difference.
jesus fuck how I hate that people still cant wrap their heads around sata, m.2, nvme, and generationional differences between SSDs
>m.2
is just a connector, it can have same speeds as sata or not but its just a fucking connector
>nvme
is a protocol, but its associated with pcie express lanes that provide that huge speeds
but I fucking hate people talking how they wont notice it... yes, its for sequential bullshit, but faggots talk about samsung 960 evo vs 850 evo and they somehow completely ignore that differences are not just nvme but generational improvement in 50% increase in random reads... jesus fuck
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good case without bullshit?
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>>62468628
Fortress 2 (FT02B)
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>>62468628
enthoo evolv
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>>62468417
>>62468398
WD is fucking gay. Can I trust Toshiba?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B013J7HO8G/

Also are "NAS drives" a meme? Like I said I wanna RAID 2 of them. I assume literally any drive should work perfectly fine for that, right?
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>>62468648
>no bullshit
>RGB ON THE CASE
loling @ ur life

>>62468628
Factal Design R5, or if you like glass, Meshify C.
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>>62468680
>RGB ON THE CASE
where?
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>>62468648

too expensive

pro m seems decent
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>>62468705
Ah nice, thanks! Not much worse than WD, then.
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>>62468705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTDVQjUrgKM
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>>62468741
is it true? do they cost $5 for unlimited storage?
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>>62468719
http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-mATX-TemperedGlass.html
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>>62468732
be careful though, dont generalize, check the model numbers
for example table like that could have only enterprise seagate drives and you would never ever know that seagate has models with some 18% failure rates...
backblaze test are amazing but only if you stick to the model numbers or at least close to the product line
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>>62468785
huh, didnt know, alright, I guess its RGB when the single on light can change color if you have mobo that can control that
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>>62468778
if you must ask, just press play again
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>>62468839
yeah, I am on their site now, its quite amazing
how can anyone else compete?
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>>62468832
tfw the s340's power button is only one color so sleep mode is either blink or "dual color" in the bios, fortunately the latter just shuts it off entirely
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>>62468862
>how can anyone else compete?

That's the beauty of a (((monopoly))).
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>>62468862
That's the beauty of pretty little lies

If every customer were to fully utilize their service, the cost would not cover it.
They prey on customers who think they're getting a deal to accommodate the few really pushing their service.
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help me upgrade, dota2 and programming android studio, visual studio
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>>62468941
is this your current build or one you're planning?
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>>62468910
>>62468925
I did quick read on /r/sysadmin and they like it there except you have no control over how long they keep the data, its just 30 days.
so its seems like some sync service for that $5

for actual long storage they have B2 and it seems also very nicely priced
first 10GB free, then its few cents per GB and some for download which is rare usually

as for monopoly claim, lol, theres so many cloud storage services you lose track pretty quickly
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>>62468960

current.
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>>62468972
>>62468941
get a monitor then
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>>62468987
i have a 4k monitor already.
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>>62468997
that did not seem like plural, get a second one
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>>62468563
Hows Islam working out for you
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>>62468808
Yeah and that's gay too, those particular hitachi drives seem impossible to get in the UK.

Anyway I guess the point of getting a RAID is to make things more reliable so I'll probably just go with the Toshiba.
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Bought the 1700x on impulse, it's much snappier than my original xeons, but I probably needed more real cores.

Threadripper takes too much power and creates too much heat though...
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what's the cheapest video card i can stick in this thing that would let me watch youtube videos in 1080p at a bearable fps?
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>>62469388
GT1030 has 4K hardware decoding and HDMI 2.0
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>>62469375
>Threadripper takes too much power and creates too much heat though...

You're thinking of i9. Threadripper is actually fairly low power consumption and heat considering it has 16 cores. 7900x consumes more power and runs hotter than 1950x and it's just 10 cores. I'm really curious to see how big of a housefire the 18 core will be.
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>minimalist niggers
>muh black featureless case
kill yourselves grannies
or get a time machine and go back to 2005
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>>62469371
>gay
>gay
>gay

how fucking old are you, 12?
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>>62469411
gotta go cheaper
this thing is too much of a shitbox to warrant a $70 purchase
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>>62469426
>be on 4chan
>complain about homosexuality being used as an insult
You do realise this is the website where everyone calls everyone a fag?
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>>62469446
>Insult
back to /b ya go kid.
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>>62467382
are DDR4 prices ever going to be reasonable again or what? How long till custom VEGA? Should I just try and read power consumption stats from the mesh network to find miners so I can kill them and steal their hardware?
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>>62469422
the only thing I hate about the s340 is the weight

I can say after the fact I could have probably downsized AND gotten something a bit smaller
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>>62469481
>Should I just try and read power consumption stats from the mesh network to find miners so I can kill them and steal their hardware?
I mean you should definitely do that to get rid of miners, but it's not worth doing it just for the hardware - their cards will be all stressed and used-out. You really don't want to be using second-hand miner hardware, unless you have enough spares that you don't care if it randomly fails on you or something.
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>>62469416
180w is not low power consumption, I just couldn't justify the price and the expensive special cooler I'd need to cover the whole package on the threadripper, power is expensive here.

The 1700x gave me more cores for 10w more tdp over my original cpu, which was a deal, the threadripper, not as much.
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What are some great mini itx cases?
I want /g/ opinion.
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>>62469670
>mini itx
But why?
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Need some input on repurposing an old PC. My dad needs a computer so I thought I'd give him an old one. It's got an ATX mobo, HDD, RAM, and an FX 8320 w/ stock cooler, all in a full tower case. Several problems
>case is too big, he needs something smaller that could sit atop his desk
>it's noisy af, I'm thinking of getting a 212 EVO for it but IDK if I should get any case fans too, depends on case I guess
>currently doesn't have a GPU. He doesn't need something as strong as a 1050ti but I'm sure he'd like something that could handle the profile=opengl-hq setting in mpv at the lowest

So any advice on a good budget case that's small or GPU that's cheaper than $100 but not complete ass?
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>>62469709
I want to try something new.
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>>62469899
Understandable, have a good build.
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I was recommended the cryorig h7 for OCing and just generally for my aging intel cpu. Was wondering if there is a difference between the $35 and $60 versions on newegg. I think the more expensive one has one extra heat pipe, but not sure how much of a difference that makes. Am I ok just getting the cheaper one with way more reviews?
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>>62467382
FOR THE ANON LIKE TWO DAYS AGO
These are all the instructions that are enabled using windows 7. I'm also using the github patch to stay up to date with the w7 updates as long as they're out. No issues but I'm running at 39.5 because my bin is kind of shitty. I might RMA because I have the early adopter segfault issue, and there's a chance of getting a better bin for free.
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>>62470086
The $60 Quad Lumi version has an extra heat pipe, but the big deal there is the RGB lighting.
The $35 one should work just as well though, for the most part.
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I want a CPU that gives me amazing emulation capablity but alos won't be outdated in a year or two for other uses. which CPU is it?
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When the fuck is Vega coming back in stock? I don't mind paying a premium at this point, I just want a non-reference card but there's zero available.
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>>62469875
1030, swap the case for a Define R4, and get an SSD.
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>>62470171
1700
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>>62470171
8700k
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>>62470184
Thoughts on 1030 vs 550?
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>>62470171
VIA
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>>62470196
is it really worth the hit to single threaded performnace in reguards to emulation compaired to the 1600? are i5's really not worth it?
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>>62470258
There's literally nothing the Ryzen processors won't emulate as well as the 7700k outside of BotW on Cemu. But even then you're talking about single frame differences that's mainly due to the application itself and not the processor. Don't worry about emulator performance unless you're getting a really cheap processor.
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>>62470258
i5's are generally not worth it these days, with 1600s performing very similarly in single threaded perf but having drastically more multithreaded perf.

But, if you absolutely need moar single thread you should be buying a 6700k, 7700k, or maybe the 8700k if it doesn't shit up the intel bingbus method of keeping latency down. Really, the 7700k might be the last low latency single threaded chip intel releases if they fully transition to mesh.
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>>62470174
I don't think any custom cards have been released yet.
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>>62470286
>>62470291
You both have some really good points. thanks. I'm amazed how nice and informed you guys are on /g/. keep it up friends.
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>>62470286
Do emulators support cores yet?
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>>62470466
I'm not aware of many emulators that make use of multiple cores, some use up to four but even then most are single thread bound. As long as your chip reaches close 4ghz you really don't need to worry too much and wouldn't you know it that's about what most Ryzen reach.
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>>62470145

So the 35 one will do fine for OCing? RGB on a fan isn't important to me at all.
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>>62470466
>>62470495
Are we going to reach a point where emulator devs are forced to stop being shits and use more then the 1st core due to stagnation/slow growth of single core performance?
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>>62470596
Probably not, and it's not like they all use a single core but truthfully the work fine for the most part. As much shit as PCSX2 gets it plays 99% of games just fine and stuff like Dolphin works amazing. PPSSPP is also amazing and most older systems have a variety of emulators available to suit your needs. Only real demanding ones right now are Cemu and RPCS3 but those are pretty early in development so having the most powerful processor in the world wouldn't make those games suddenly play okay.
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>>62470596
>Are we going to reach a point where emulator devs are forced to stop being shits and use more then the 1st core due to stagnation/slow growth of single core performance?
the nature of emulation requires them to have a heavy single thread, as that's generally how most console chips function except for the ps3 which was the definition of too multicored to program easily for, which is why its emulator is slightly multicored.
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So I want to make a gaming rig for destiny 2. As a "grown up" gamer that wants to get back in after not really playing games anymore. I want to buy a 1080ti and I need to figure out what kind of monitor+rest of computer I should buy to pair it with. I think a 21/9 would be a better option than a 4k.
So what do I need?
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>>62471114
What's your budget?
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>>62471114
>gaming rig for destiny 2
Don't bother, it's not that good.
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>>62471127
I actually don't have one. I'm cheap as fuck though so I'm looking for best dollar for dollar that has a 1080ti and plays destiny 2. So maybe 4k after monitor? I don't want to spend that much.
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>>62471134
I played the beta for a night, seemed pretty fun.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1p9jzb78QA
Wait, so /g/ told people to wait over a year for a $700 overclocked Fury X?
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>>62471138
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRWkYr
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>>62471207
raja shit the bed so hard on this that he's "taking family time" until the end of this quarter
I'm calling it, he's being demoted from director of RTG to just a regular architect. Or fired. Either way, he can't be in charge. Lisa su is running RTG now so we'll see. There's obviously a huge issue with the software stack, because major issues with the front end are STILL not resolved despite being referenced in their own whitepaper. This isn't even including their "fast path" version of primitive discard, of which neither version is working. On top of that , the drawstream binning rasterizer isn't working either. It's an utter shitshow and they haven't made any real progress since december, so the launch happening in august is just embarassing.
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>>62471238
Are we buying ryzen for gaming now?
Also holy fug I heard dram prices were going up but really?
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>>62471270
You can buy intel if you want, but you also said you don't want to spend too much, so make up your mind. I still think that guy memed a bit with that build.
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>>62471295
he did? my build is somewhat similar
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>>62471238
>>62471270
If you want to save money and still have the same performance, don't buy NVMe.
Just get an AHCI drive and you will have the same gaming performance.
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>>62471270
My preference. You can switch to a 7700k if you want, but Ryzen has better mutli-threaded performance.
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>>62471295
9/18/16
So less than a year ago, the price of 32gb.
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best RAM for a Ryzen 5 1600?
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>>62471328
that's also bottom barrel ram binning, wonder what high speed ram was priced back then.
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>>62471340
Depends on your motherboard.
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>>62471340
>[Update] [Auto] 10
Trident z 2x8gb 14-14-14-16 3200
Generally works the best, since B-die can handle the tight timings from ryzen the most
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>>62471349
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757
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>>62471344
Well this is current day ram, so I would assume 1/2 of what it is now?
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>>62471370
fucking normies and their goddamn DDR4 iPHONES

Why the hell do they need DDR4, they just shitpost on normiebook
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>>62471370
>>62471328
>>62471344
It's over 2x today.
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>>62471311
I mean it's not a bad build, but if that guy literally only wants it for destiny 2 then no point in getting 1700 and x370 mobo. I bet 1600 and b350 is gonna perform just as well. Yeah and 500ssd is up to personal preference, but again I doubt destiny 2 takes up 500gb.
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>>62471370
for higher speed you want to go single rank, so 8gb modules. If you go double rank I'm not sure if it performs better or worse. Some people say with ryzen it works great. I dunno, but it wont get to the rated mhz
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>>62471357
>Asrock
>X370
lmaoing @ ur life
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104703
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>>62471388
oh didn't see that.
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>>62471393
WHATS WRONG WITH THE TAICHI
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>>62471393
>lmaoing @ ur life
meh, it was on sale and it looks cool
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>>62471387
Also fuck me they are predicting another 40% rise in dram prices this year.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dram-price-shortage-hike-40,35469.html
So were talking 300+ for 32gb.
What is even happening?
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>>62471387
>250 dolleroos for 32gb of budget ram
at this rate I'd just tell people to be happy with a console and save the money until prices aren't fucked anymore
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>>62471422
REEEEEEE FUCKING NORMIESSSSSSSSSSS
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>>62471393
>>62471417
>>62471411
it literally has the best power delivery outside of the crosshair VI hero. It's a great board
>>62471422
>>62471437
GOD
FUCK
HOLY SHIT
Glad I upgraded in march
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>>62471424
>>62471437
OVER $10 per GB of ram INC.
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>>62471444
>>62471461
FUCKING IPHONESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>62471444
>It's a great board
But is it a nice board?
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>>62471340
I got a Taichi and I use Flare X
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>>62471422
>>62471461
I don't have any plans of buy new ram myself since I dissuaded myself from re-vamping my current build to a faggy color scheme but holy shit this is bonkers
I have like 5 people asking me to put computers together for them rn
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>>62471481
ur a fukin cheekie one, /s4s/
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>>62471482
I've seen that suggested.
Will probably pick between that or >>62471354
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>>62471488
This is /pcbg/ not your sister's email
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>>62471483
Light yourself on fire for abbreviating right now as RN.
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>>62471506
you got a problem senpai
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>>62471506
K gonna kms rn
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>>62471422
Fuck time to buy now.
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>>62471519
I told you how to solve it.
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>>62471354
I bought 3200 CL 14 trident Z RGB, does the RGB make it not run at its speed????
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>>62471535
>RGB
FAGGOT
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Hi /g/ I got a bonus at my job that lets me spend 500 euros (600 USD) on hardware I want.
Unfortunately the site that agreed to it for some reason doesn't want you to buy independent parts, for god knows what reason.
I was planning to get a GPU but I can't. I'm only interested in the shitty overprice prebuilt PCs (could try to sell it but noone will buy it probably), and the monitors.
Should I go for a 4k monitor? I'm not knowledgeable on this. I like playing videogames but I read 4K is a meme right now because not enough games support it and a 1080TI barely handles 4K or something like that.
So is it just not worth buying it at all or is it a good investment if i can get it for free? Also read that 1440p/144hz is the best thing to buy
I looked into guides (even the guides for retards) about contrast ratio, refresh rate, resolution (idk why some monitors say that their display resolution is 1440p but it's not listed under their "supported resolution" section) and I still don't get any of this. If someone could give me a hand with what these things are or any advice on the 4k/1440p thing I'd appreciate it
All i know is I want an IPS monitor
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how's this looking for an upgrade
been wondering about the processor itself because it seems even a ryzen 3 1200 would do what I want it to (60fps 1080p, occasional streaming, some productivity junk, having my browser open in the background while playing games) but then I get no FUTURE PROOFING and I'm stuck with the shittier stealth cooler
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>>62471530
sorry im already lit af senpai
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how do i unplug a sata cable without taking a chunk of the motherboard with it?
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>>62471542
I'm here to help people build PC's not to read your shitty european blog. tl;dr
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>>62471554
Using your hands???
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>>62471554
With the clippy wippy
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>>62471536
>FAGGOT
>not buying RGB
autism.
>>
Where the fuck do I ask opinions on a poorfag router? I just want a good cheap one.
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>>62471577
>>not buying RGB
Now where did I say that?
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>>62471580
Off-topic to this off-topic post, but building your own router is pretty fun.

Anyways, budget?
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>>62471580
how fast is your internet bub
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>>62471535
If you are serious the kit being sold at 3200MHz means it has been tested to run that way
If you are joking fuck off
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>>62471542
>IPS
you probably like the idea of clear colors and nice details. 4K might be something you want.

Honestly most gamers want 144Hz 1440p for a smoother, fluid gaming experience for optimal reaction times. If you just want to feel like you are watching an HD movie while playing I guess it could be an option.

You will probably need a 1080 ti if you want to play at that resolution though. Maybe lower the graphic settings a bit.
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>>62471607
Ryzen you autist.
>>62471585
>RGB=FAGGOT
autism.
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Im helping my friend build a computer but I have no idea what im doing. Does this look ok or do I need to change. Budget is $1500 and this is $1470
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>>62471691
nice meme
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>>62471691
Why are you trying to set his house aflame?
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Can anyone point me to a good computer desk chair? My current one is about ready to give up the ghost. Kinda want a mesh one but not sure. Don't really want to spend $300 for one of the riced out ones either.

Pic related it's my desktop
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>>62471691
do you already own the cpu and mobo because those are very old
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>>62471691
$379.00 3770k
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>mfw just bought a Samsung 960 Pro 1TB for $430
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>>62471691
What's it for?
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>>62471691
if I were your friend our friendship would be already over.
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>>62471717
>>mfw just bought a Samsung 960 Pro 1TB for $430
expensive
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>>62471691
What the fuck are you doing.
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>>62471717
>430
You got fleeced
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>>62471704
>not wanting an RGB chair
FAGGOT
AUTISM
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>>62471700
>>62471702
>>62471705
>>62471709
>>62471746
i have no idea what im doing help me out here
>>62471720
He wants to get into pc gaming
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>>62471742
>>62471748
Compared to Newegg/Amazon price, I got a huge deal, plus if I sell it for like $500 used, I still win.
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>>62471767
google logicalincrements
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>>62471769
idk who would drop 500 on an SSD my dude
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>>62471631
Thank you.
I should have probably mentioned it in my post. I want IPS because I often want to watch movies from my bed and doing that with my current monitor (TN) is godawful since the viewing angles and colors are all fucked.
I don't play competitive fps or anything like that so response time isn't an issue.
All I need is good colors, detail and at least 60fps.
Thank you for the advice again
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>>62471769
How much are they new now? I want to say I paid like $250 a year or so ago for mine.
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>>62471767
I bet your one of those people that's so lonely, that when your friend causally mentioned wanting to build a PC, you jumped on it instantly saying "I'LL HELP YOU"! because your so desperate for friendship.

Anyways, here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXjTKZ
You can bump up to a 1070 if you want. Maybe buy a nice 1440p monitor.
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>>62471781
Some people drops $900+ for 2TB drive. Of course, it can be sold.
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>>62471754
I'm more talking about the RACER RACING CHAIRS off Amazon. Just looking for something comfy that will slow down the increasingly rapid curving of my spine.
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>>62471814
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXjTKZ
Oh wow, that's single channel RAM. I put that togther in 5 seconds, here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fDGQkT
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>>62471799
$250 for 960 Pro? In your dreams, son.
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>>62471845
Disregard, it was an 850 Pro
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What's a good 4k monitor to get?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/r7zMnQ
rate me
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>>62471717
I hope you only did it to resell
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>>62471888
ewwwwwwwwwwww
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>>62471888
This is server shit
Who cares
>>
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YJYsTH
How'd I do?
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>>62471845
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gbqtZ8

How's this? I'm upgrading from an FX-6300 based system. Ignore the price on the RX580 as I can get it for it's RRP. Is there anything i should change? if not i'll likely be pulling the trigger the moment the money is ready.
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>>62471960
>ass rocks
seems ok. those prices are wew
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>>62471967
>Ignore the price on the RX580
What do you mean, that's really great price for rx 580. I wish I could get used one for that much.
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>>62471704
Please respond
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>>62471960
Do you need that wifi card? Should be cheaper to upgrade to x370 board that has one.
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>>62471704
>>62471993
go to a local office depot or an ikea if you have one in your area and sit your fat ass down
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>>62471993
Chairs are so subjective that no one can give good recommendations and you should just go and see them for yourself at local store.
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>>62471960
>>62472001
I agree with this response.
If you need wireless just get a taichi or something
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>>62471988
Buying it off a friend for £40 less.
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>>62471967
Don't buy 1600x and buy 1600 instead, maybe sell the cooler for a couple bucks who cares
Invest in more RAM if you can, maybe a 1x8 now and another later
And if you don't have one already buy a hard drive later
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>>62472198
is there anything paticularly bad about the 1600X vs the normal 1600? I'll get more RAM when the bubble pops. also woulden't buying 1 stick of RAM mean i get half the speed on the tin? (I may be wrong in this i'm a dummy). I have a fresh 2TB HDD for it already. I'm wondering if I should aim for another type of SSD or if that one is fine?
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>>62472296
>is there anything paticularly bad about the 1600X vs the normal 1600?
the performance isn't worth the difference in price, and the included cooler for the 1600 is bretty great
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>>62472296
>I'll get more RAM when the bubble pops
By that time we'll be using ddr6.
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>>62472314
I dunno £7 for around a 10% boost in single threaded performance doesn't seem to bad Anon.
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>>62472378
if your tight on a budget the 1600x doesn't come with a cooler and I doubt you could find a decent cooler for 7 bongs
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>>62472390
>1600x doesn't come with a cooler
Well, that's some bull shit. But I am saving £40 on the GPU and my budget is somewhat flexable. I guess then the real question would be jumping to an R7. I am willing to spend a little extra on a nice CPU after suffering this FX6300
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>>62472468
>suffering this FX 6300
i totally feel you right now
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>>62472468
>Well, that's some bull shit
Yeah I feel like 1600x is just amd trying to do the same thing as intel with their K cpus and checking if they can get away with it. thankfully all ryzens are unlocked so there's no point in buying 1600x ever.
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My parent's old PC broke, so I was thinking about building them a new one.

Haven't really been looking at parts or anything since I built my own pc 4-5 years ago.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgdLGf
Couldn't find specific HDD I was thinking about on part picker
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VS556S2/
Case I'm looking at is a rosewell micro atx.

They just need a computer to get on the internet with and other normal computer stuff like saving pictures. Nothing intensive at all, just something that can last a good while.

I would appreciate any suggestions to optimize things if possible. Reduce price while not really losing performance; again, they don't want/need anything intensive. As is, it would cost around $203.

Tried searching youtube for cheap general purpose builds to get inspiration, but all the videos were "$100-200 gaming pc build challenges" and whatnot.
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>>62472558

>#Current Year
>4GB RAM

At least push for 8GB, otherwise it seems okay for a basic build. Just get a cheap mATX case that won't cut you to death

>Tried searching youtube for cheap general purpose builds to get inspiration, but all the videos were "$100-200 gaming pc build challenges" and whatnot.

Have you tried using "Budget PC 2017" as search words?
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>>62472296
1600x is basically an overpriced 1600 but without the cooler. You can achieve the same clocks on average with an OC'd 1600 as a 1600x.
Double RAM sticks means double bandwidth, not speed.
And thw bubble will only continue to grow, so buy RAM and GPUs now or way later. The SSD seems good.
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>>62472558
For that price point you may as well just buy a prebuilt.
It's probably going to be cheaper overall if you factor in Windows.
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After waiting the whole summer for Vega to come out and in the end flopped hard I ended up buying this PC:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQZNtJ

Total cost 1,900EUR
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>>62472921
Looks great, but that pricing is abhorrent
You could probably fly to the U.S. and order the parts and have it cheaper.
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>>62472941
and to think of I bought it from mindfactory.de one of the cheapest sites in EU..
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>>62472921
>Poozen
>buying a shitty plastic speaker
Into the trash it goes.
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>>62473133
>Hating on Ryzen
>On /g/
(You)
>>
I had 2x Xeon X5660's sold to me for $15 each, so I'd like to find a cheap LGA1366 motherboard
Is overclocking possible on dual socket boards?
Is it worth it for a cheap system?
I have an i5 3340, 8GB ram, and a gtx 650 ti, so was considering upgrading to the dual x5660, maybe add another 8gb+ ram, and a better video card, but wanted some opinions
prefer something international shipping if anyone could suggest
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>>62473211
>Is it worth it for a cheap system?
nope. Best upgrades you could do is another 8GB of ram and a better video card. Xeons are a meme. The CPUs are cheap but the motherboards aren't. Especially since you have to run the server version of windows to support both CPUs.
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>>62469388
anyone?
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>>62473287
1030. 440, if you like AMD.
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Why did updating the BIOS bring down my cinebench score (R5 1600)?
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>>62468969
The point is that all these (((different))) services belong to the same (((people))). If one gets more popular, and the owner's name doesn't have a (((ring))) to it, they simply buy it out.
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>>62473331
it probably fucked with something. Probably couldn't tell you what it fucked with but that's the most likely option.
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Is it safe to power a 1080ti (2x8pin) with 2x 6pin to 6+2pin connectors?

My PSU has a 82Amp +12V rail but I'm not sure if the cables will hold
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>>62471546
The Ryzen 5 1400 seems like the ideal fit for you imo. If you do a little bit of streaming, the extra threads will help. Just be honest with yourself. If you are a real casual streamer, a Ryzen 1200 and Shadowplay would suit you fine. If you are doing it on a weekly basis or more often, the Ryzen 1400 or 1600 makes more sense plus you can use CPU encoding if you really prefer that. Also you are pretty safe with the AM4 socket, you got a clear upgrade path for the next few years.
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>tfw I made the right decision when I bought a 980 over a 970 all those years ago.
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>>62473432
Why wouldn't it be? It's still one cable and only the end part is split so it fits every kind of graphics card.
>>
What should babby's first os be?
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>>62467863
Single rail is worse
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>>62467508
No idea about the coolermaster one, but the 430W EVGA sucks ass
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>>62473579
>I made the superior decision and bought a R9 290 for 60€ less than a 970 all those years ago
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>>62469670
Ncase M1
Dan A4
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Looking at a used PC, wondering about opinions. Comes with no storage but I have a 1TB left over I can use until I can grab an SSD.
>AMD FX-8350
>Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
>8GB 1886 HyperX Fury DDR3 ram
>MSI Gaming Geforce GTX 970 3.5 GB graphics card
>Corsair CX750M PSU
>white NZXT H440 case
for $450.
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>>62467382
I want to build a server for number crunching and database operations. Number crunching involved Tensorflow, matlab, etc, and database operations involves parsing of large datasets. My pcpartpicker list currently:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kQdZpb

also, is it okay to just use a test bench instead of a PC case?
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is this the best gaming build that money can buy?
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>>62474421

Make it a full tower, add in a high capacity drive, then we'll talk.
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>>62474445
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVCHcc

1.5tb can hold an OS and games
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>>62474421
>frylake-x

no
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>>62474672

oh let me just spring for WHYzen.jpg
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>>62474677
would be an improvement i guess
>>
I just want a 1070 sub 400 yuros, fuck I hate cryptocucks
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>>62475097
I have a feeling by mid october prices should be more sane. Maybe not MSRP, but at least stomachable.

Btw, for anybody interested in 144hz gaming, be aware that means you are either A: Going to pay out the ass, or B: settle for a shitty TN panel. I ended up going for a $200 freesync 144hz monitor, and i hate it a lot. I was using a $90 aoc ips panel that I was able to get to stay stable at 65hz, and it looks so much better. If it weren't for FPS games, I would have returned this POS, but as for now I'm dealing with 2 monitors that i have to swap back and forth between.
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getting a r5 1600, whats a compatible motherboard and ram that support fucking with clocks and disabling cores?
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>>62467418
>>
Rakuten currently has a 20% coupon deal on everything.
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>>62475370
any ram and any am4 mobo?
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>>62475397
atx/micro atx and 8 gigs of ram
i want to be able to disable cores and fuck with clocks
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QDYsJ
Is this good? I'm thinking about dropping another $70 and get a k70.
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Help me to decide between these 3 builds:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHD9gL - a build with good basis. I'd like to have powerful cpu and good mobo. With this build I would upgrade gpu in a year or two.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R7qjTH - more GPU focused build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X9pCTH - budget version, if both above builds are trash.

Goal - playing aaa and multiplayer games at 1080p 60hz at max for at least 3 years. Other basic multimedia and stuff. Having a good pc in general.
I heard many bad things about OCing on strix b350 and I plan to oc the cpu to at least 3.8.
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>>62475480
I don't even know what the fuck you're doing with your storage config, so I'm not really going to comment on that. Remember, always STATE YOUR USE CASE, but from what I can see here,
Get a cheaper PSU (I like the EVGA GQ personally), cut out those fans, and get yourself a G-Sync monitor.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TsfQkT
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>>62475547
do the second build for what you want. There's virtually no difference between a Ryzen 5 1600 and a Ryzen 7 1700 in gaming

For what it's worth, all 3 builds look good.
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>>62475547
I'm going to be a bit harsh here, but all 3 of those lists are trash.
>playing aaa and multiplayer games at 1080p 60hz at max for at least 3 years
You want a Gtx 1060 6gb or maybe a gtx 1070.
You don't need to spend $200 on a motherboard. You don't need to get a top-tier power supply. A reasonably priced quality unit won't catch fire on you. Get a bronze or gold 600-ish watt unit, semi modular. The main advantage of full modular over semi is using custom cables, which I doubt you will.
Everyone's storage needs are different, so this part may be incorrect for you. but most gamers need quite a fair bit of storage space. 500gb tends to fill up pretty quick. The solution for most gamers is to get a 1tb spinning hard drive and a 128-275ish gb ssd for boot and their most played one or two games. Your mileage may vary.
3200mhz ram is very far into diminishing returns, even on ryzen. Go with 2800mhz or 3000mhz for decently cheaper.
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Is there any real world difference between the i5 3570 and i5 4590? I'm broke and want to replace my X230 with a desktop since I'm only using it docked with an eGPU setup right now anyways but used Optiplexes with the 4590 go for like $40-50 more on average over the 3570
>>
Any graphic designers here?
I want to get my gf a new computer. She deals with photoshop/indesign/illustrator. Basically the whole Adobe suite.
What should I watch out for? I know how to build a PC for gaymen but not for this type of stuff.
And she doesn't want a mac.
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>>62475686
>You don't need to spend $200 on a motherboard
So, what is a good b350 boards? Is strix okay?
>You want a Gtx 1060 6gb or maybe a gtx 1070.
Well, certainly not 1070, as it costs almost the same as 1080, so I am deciding between these 2.
Thanks for feedback, anon.
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>>62475723
5-10% perf and a slightly better igpu. Get the ivy dude.
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>>62475775
I probably will, I had an i5 3570k in my old desktop that I had to get rid off and it handled everything I threw at it like a champ
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>>62475772
Yeah that strix board looks good. Other good ATX boards in that price range include MSI b350 tomohawk, MSI b350 gaming pro carbon. ASRock Fatal1ty AB350, MSI - B350 KRAIT GAMING. There's a gigabyte one in that price range, though i wish It had more heatsinks on the overclocking bits.
If I had to pick one, i'd go with the pro carbon, but that's my personal choice.
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>>62475772
Good B350 boards:
MSI B350 Tomahawk
MSI B350M Mortar
MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon
Asus B350-F Strix
Asus Prim B350 Plus
Asrock AB350 Pro 4
Asrock Fatal1ty AB350
Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3

The Tomahawk board seems to be the most revered of the B350 boards, alongside the Strix, Pro Carbon, and the Fatal1ty
>>
cheap ryzen 8gb ram?
>>
Never build a pc before. Don't have anything.
Is there a list of all things you need? Like I saw somewhere that you even need to buy network adapter
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>>62475595
> storage config
Those 2 ssds will go on RAID 0. The HDDs are for mass storage.

> STATE YOUR USE CASE
Storm Trooper
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>>62475999
there's no such thing as cheap ram, see >>62471422
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>>62476029
so whats 8gigs of ram that work with a b350 tomahawk and a 1600?
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>>62476058
Check the QVL of your motherboard.
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>>62475547
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R7qjTH - more GPU focused build
This.
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>>62476015
Depends on what your needs are.
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>>62474421
Your motherboard is incomatible.
>>
>G.Skill Ripjaws V Series DDR4-3200 288-pin DIMM 14 2x8GB 16GB $174.99
>G.Skill Flare X Series DDR4-3200 288-pin DIMM 14 2x8GB 16GB $187.88
Literally why
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>>62476446
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Finally moving from an 9 year old MicroATX prebuilt I got when I was 14.
1.3ghz, integrated graphics of a notebook back then, 4 gigs of ram, blah blah it's shit. Even the monitor is a 13 year old T19-1, a future gift to my grandkids.

Goal of the new box is mostly mixed-used, gaming, high quality video, and use for school work for any assignments in AutoCAD, FEA, and other simulations. No need to go too hard on that since standard procedure in career is to use in-house hardware anyway.
Looking for good performance with two monitors; a new one to replace the antique, and TV I own and hook up for movies.

Budget is ~£1'000 to £1'500. I know prices are going to be a good 30% more than equiv for Americans, generally.

What should I look for most?
Why is microATX the current go to meme in /g/ since last I was here?
I'm used to keeping the shitbox on permanently, often for several months at a time - bad habit but what extra cooling or precautions to I have to look for while I break out of that cycle?
Is multi-core/thread performance (i.e. Ryzen) more important for me than good single thread (i.e. an i7 7700k, or x) performance, and why?
With rising Dram and slowly dropping GPU prices, what sort of timeframe should I start picking up components; now or wait?
Why doesn't anybody still love rollerball mice?
SSDs; should I bother for more space than just the OS?

Pic is the good ol shitbox. Hasn't failed me in almost a decade, except in performance.
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>>62468416
>>62468480
>It is a SMALL full-ATX case.
Proof. Decided to measure just how deep the case is.
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>>62467382
>rx580
hot garbage rebrand with jumped up voltages

if you missed the rx470/480 launch stop being a lil bitch and get a 1050ti/1060. never pay more than $230 for a rx4/580 they are not worth it.
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What am I doing wrong?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tfbb3F
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>>62476752

Absolutely everything - the only sensible part of that build is the cpu cooler.
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>>62476549

1600, B350 board, 580, 256gb ssd, 16gb ram, 1tb HDD and whatever case you like. Rest of the budget goes on monitors.
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Where can I find budget PC build that is upgradable to higher specs? (when I'm not poorfag anymore)
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>>62476549
>AutoCAD
7700k
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>>62476752
Fixed your everything.
Don't buy windows.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGQrKZ
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can buy a new Vega 64 reference version for less than Vega 56 and lower than the RRP. should I?
liquid cooling on my 295x2 just died and I need a replacement until I get that sorted.
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am i retarded or does the b350 tomahawk not have a qvl
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>tfw 2nd year computer """""scientist"""" with top grades
>can't build PC
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>>62476919
You have a good upgrade path with just r3 1200, B350, 1050ti, 2x4gb ram, hdd, 500W evga/seasonic psu
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>>62477140
open wide anon
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK#support-mem-2
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>>62476880
>>62477002
How do I go about connecting the second (and idk, by assumed recommendation, a third down the line) when there's, usually, a VGA, DVI and/or Display port, and an HDMI?
I make do with the antique screen because its VGA, and the TV monitor on an HDMI, since it has 3 HDMI ports, and a hard to access SCART and VGA, but that won't matter when the main monitors are HDMI/DVI. So, how do?

Also, no B350s available to Brits. Are B250s fine? Should I go better?
You need to baby me a bit, I'm used to materials and fluids, not computers
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>>62477495

>Also, no B350s available to Brits

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/motherboards/amd/am4-x370-b350-ryzen
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>>62477585
I meant on partpicker, since that's the best used tool to cross reference parts.
Again, I don't really know a single thing to look for either, go easy on me.
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Not sure if this is the place to ask, but is this a decent enough mouse or is it a meme? All I have right now is a basic wireless mouse and the 50% off price is enticing
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Well there's no homeserver thread so I'll post here.

Looking to build a new "server", essentially just an always on desktop, but very much aiming for something low-power/wattage usage since it'll be 24/7, and small form-factor. 8GB RAM minimum, need 1xPCI-E.

Really not sure what parts to pick from, and need some suggestions for mobo and RAM, and if I should get an SSD or just run off a USB 3.0 stick? Majority of data will be on a 4/8TB HDD.

Also not sure if it makes sense to build it for use as a future NAS, or to build a separate system for that, since my NAS system won't be on 24/7, just when needed.

CPUs I've picked:
G3220, G3240, i3-6100, i3-7300T; A6-9500

Thanks.
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>>62477056
r3 even overclocked still bottlenecks a 1070. I mean that in the technical sense that the gpu is waiting for the cpu to push more frames, and hits a pretty hard performance wall.
and why the fuck do you have 16 gb in here? What is this pc even being used for btw? If it's gaming, there's still a lot of work to do.
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>>62472668
Would they really need more than 4 just for using the internet?
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>>62474034
bump
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Got a 7700k running at 4.8Ghz @ 1.25v + ~°71C
Cooler is the Corsair H100i V2 AIO. Do you reckon I should/could get any decent more overclock out of this without increasing the thermals further?
Using the chip as a daily, stream with it and pair it with a 1080Ti.
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I want to upgrade my rig for gaming at 1440p 144hz... Should i wait for coffee lake?
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Will gpu prices drop now or continue to increase?
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>>62478366

That is the second best board you can get for vishera and can handle pushing obscene clocks but vishera is still pretty meh without said obscene clocks.
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do you really need a cd drive anymore?
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>>62478675
Do you have a top roof on your budget?
What is your current setup?

If you really want intel, then I would personally get a 7th gen rig going, with ryzen here and coffee lake around the corner, there are a lot of good deals on motherboards and 7th gen processors. A 7700K is still overkill for pretty much any game today, and you can use the extra shekels to get a 1080ti which is the main performance factor if you want to get high frames at higher resolutions.
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>>62469670
Silverstone - RVZ03B
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>>62478839
right, but is it a good deal? Make no doubt about it, I'd gather parts to swap to Ryzen, but would it be a good stopgap in the meanwhile for a decent price? Especially since I refuse to touch Intel ever again.
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how do I get windows 10 for cheap
I don't want to pirate
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>>62478947
Waste of space unless you have work/hobby related to it.

Blueray drive might be worth it if you want to enjoy movies at top quality.
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>>62478989

>but is it a good deal?

I'm not a burger so I don't know the relative value of the parts but that is a well balanced system. Only thing you haven't mentioned is what cpu cooler it comes with as vishera is HOT when pushed.
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>>62478991
https://www.kinguin.net/se/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

Use paypal and ignore kinguin buyer protection.
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>>62479045
>Only thing you haven't mentioned is what cpu cooler it comes with as vishera is HOT when pushed.
oh. forgot that. It's a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
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So i think my gtx 770 is slowly dying, should i buy a 1060 already or wait a few months more? I don't play gpu demanding games, mainly strategy ones with some fifa or nba and i use madvr also.
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>>62479049
how is it only €27? is the site legit?
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>>62479058

That diminishes the value somewhat - not because its a bad cooler but because you're not going to be able to pump the near 1.5v through the chip that it will most likely require to hit 4.7ghz+.
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>>62467382
So /pcbg/ I bought my system 3 years ago and when I bought it I bought a x87 extreme6 mobo because it was on sale half off but I was retarded and bought incompatible ram with it.It worked fine for years and now it wont post. I get a memory readout on the drdebug. Is it smarter to replace the mobo for something better or buy new memory knowing that I will have to buy outdated memory for this specific mobo?
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>>62479113
just get new memory from the QVL list. Would be cheaper in the long run
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXy69W

550$ hooked to ~50 inch TV as a monitor and operating from distance with wifi kb/m . no games but simple office and media use

opinions?
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>>62479082
Is prostitution real sex?

basically
>factory buys 50k oem keys
>makes 40k computas
>sell remaining 10k keys on grey market
>key retailers pick them up and starts selling them on key distribution sites like g2a or kinguin

Or they acquire the keys through other means. Game keys are often more shadily procured, so I don't recommend buying games from those sites.
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>>62479139
Even though it can't support anything over DDR3 2800?
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>>62479185
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9ck2Ps
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>>62476549
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dbp7VY
Okay, I put together a preliminary build.
Now, what have I missed, and/or needs unfucking?
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CWWkYr
Is mobo ok?
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>>62479540
Pretty good build. Maybe RAM could be a bit faster but eh.
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>>62479461
right
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>>62479568
Overkill, unless you want more lanes / plan on doing SLI
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>>62479644
You're right, I forgot about getting faster RAM, more or less chose at random.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/84BX8K
Replaced with Corsair - Vengeance LPX, 2x8GB.

No more suggestions?
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is a 144hz monitor worth it if i don't play anything that would benefit from it?
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>>62479910
Good to go, m8.
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>>62479955
What the hell are you asking?
"Should I buy something that I won't use?"
It is a lot smoother in all games but if you would prefer higher resolution get that.
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>>62477364
????
am i legitimately retarded
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>>62479910
That's 32GB of RAM, and with a 1080 you should be investing in higher refresh rates or higher resolution.
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>>62480317
nevermind, i got it, its under compatibility
great on them for having a site that doesnt work with copypasted links
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>>62480256

i guess my question is are there benefits to 144hz if you aren't playing anything fast paced

i usually play shit like strats and eve
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>>62480531
144hz is really smooth.
In anything you can hit 144fps in it feels less choppy.
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>>62478950
I currently have a i7 2600... I think it will bottleneck at 1440p 144hz
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>>62480343
I fixed the accidental double allotment of RAM after I posted. RE: The monitor; I'll probably get an additional, better monitor down the line, and I already have a TV monitor to hook up, making an eventual 3. I'll probably keep this machine going for a long time, since this is the first time I've had the funds to upgrade in 9 years, and while I'm getting older, I'm not getting less frugal.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCpcwV
For video gaming
Trying to keep it under $1k
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>>62480622
That looks great, but you may want a more powerful power supply for upgrade headroom.
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>Shitposting machine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mt4Hcc

>Entry

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pDPCy

>Midrange

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9RqCTH

>Highend

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XqWg9W

>Very Highend

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/92TGQV
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>>62480759
520W Seasonic psu is enough imo
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJPwWX
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>>62480774
>Shitposting machine
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mt4Hcc
Fixed: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pPc9gL
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>>62480855
Ideally you want to keep your maximum load in the middle of the PSU's maximum performance.
Let's say you upgrade to a more powerful vodeo card and a more powerful CPU. Now you are nearing the end of the range. 600w and 650w aren't too much more expensive so it isn't a bad idea to save yourself the money later.
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