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First for shitposting

second for install linux

How's Devuan's armhf builds?

Systemd no longer wants to follow
noauto,x-systemd.automount

This seems to have started with systemd 234.
When i go to login via tty it will take he username and password but it will pause for 2 minutes, then checking the log the system is trying to mount that mountpoint despite nothing touching it. It hangs all tty's for 2 minutes until the drive is manually mounted(its a crypto disk i manually open).Am i not using the right switches?

>>62418893
probably shit. just install gentoo

>>62418792
th for posting questions itt before even trying to search the answer .

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>>62418897
>systemd

runit > systemd < openrc

>>62418970
>radical centrist

>>62418970
Sysvinit > runit = upstart > openrc > systemd

>>62418920
Is gentoo available for odroid c2?

>>62419091
probably. learn to build gentoo for arm

>>62419106
Where? I don't know where to start

>>62419145
RTFM my good man
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page
There are parts that talk about ARM, it's different from the regular x86 or AMD64 install, but it's possible to install on ARM.

>>62418897
You can check if some systemd unit file is trying to access it by searching through the installed units in /usr/lib/systemd/system/ (might be different on your system, but not to be confused with /etc/systemd/system/).

I'd have to see your fstab exactly and your journalctl output to see what's happening exactly.

>>62419145
figure it out yourself. i did it by booting the stage3 with a binary kernel and figured everything out from there. there isn't much documentation on gentoo arm because of arms fragmentation

>>62419179
I checked all the active running services and none of them are touching the device

The only error is

UUID\the uuid\name.mount failed to mount.

Fstab

defaults,noatime,nodiratime,noauto,nofail,nodev,nosuid,x-systemd.automount 0 0

>>62418897
Systemd? More like
shitstaind

Is gentoo a meme?

>>62419384
No. Installing gentoo is a meme

>>62419384
"Install gentoo" is the meme, the distro itself isn't a meme

>>62419384
No. It's great.

>>62419384
Install GuixSD

>>62419414
Install Void

>>62419420
I want OpenRC

>>62419420
Install Alpine

>>62419420
Install slackware

>>62419435
I like runit better

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Guys I want to blow windows right now from my desktop PC.
and I want to install linux

so what distro should I install
(the fucking link about it on OP is dead atm)

I guess I'm a power user of windows. but I don't care of games that much.
I don't care about having a windows like desktop either.

I just don't want that garbage phone like ubuntu desktop.
also the last time I used linux was back in 2010 for about 3 months

enlighten me

also unrelated pic

>>62419342
The error isn't important; I'd want to know what's causing it to try to mount it even though it has noauto.

And I said check all services, not just the running ones, because many services are static and aren't running after boot.

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Install Arch

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Install TempleOS

>>62419460
okay

>>62419441
>no icecat

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>>62419461
>(the fucking link about it on OP is dead atm)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Install Ubuntu, don't torture yourself. Ease into something new or you'll overwhelm yourself.

>>62419539
Install botnetium

>>62419573
No.

>>62419588
Yes

>>62419539
How do I install icecat on debain based systems? I downloaded it and just run it from terminal ie ~/Downloads/icecat/icecat-bin

>>62418784
Just switched from Debian to Fedora.

Debian Wheezy/Jessie was great.

Stretch fucking killed it for me. Gotta say the Fedora workstation is pretty comfy. Most shit just werks on this old Sony Vaio

>>62419592
No, I won't.

>>62419607
install gentoo

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>>62419624

>>62419668
cuck

>>62419651
IceCat does everything I need in a browser and nothing I don't need

>>62419611
Fuck me I was wrong. How come I can't Ctrl + A for select all and other Ctrl shortcuts don't work?!

>>62419844
In what? I'm thinking you've probly got the wrong keyboard layout since those are basically universal among gui toolkits.

>>62419540
ubuntu, really?
I don't think all the linux stuff is going to overwhelm me that much.

>>62419922
Fine. Bunsenlabs.

>>62419922
There is truly an enormous amount of bullshit that can go wrong and no matter what you're looking for you'll get only 2 results when searching. Ubuntu questions and archwiki.

>>62419907
Yup and I'm a retard.

Got any idea why I cannot use the backspace key to navigate back in the File Manager?

Also I'll ask the second stupid question. How do I display my all my Computer's information in terminal like on those stupid desktop threads? I don't care to post desktop, I just want that information

>>62419970
install screenfetch

>>62419982
neofetch*

>>62419996
No, but you do need vrms. People stopped posting that in "fetch" threads and it should return.

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Fuzzy finder https://github.com/jhawthorn/fzy
Fast directory changer https://fbb-git.github.io/xd/xdman.html

Also
https://github.com/clvv/fasd
https://micans.org/apparix/

>>62419922

Ubuntu is the most documented, updated, supported, and used distro.

Use it unless you know why you don't want to. You'll thank me when you're compiling a thousand different packages on some arch box when you could've done an apt get.

>B-b-ut I want to be advanced! I have teh brain!

Only thing different is the architecture

>Ubuntu looks so plain

Install whatever desktop you want, no need to swap distros when you can have a better supported build with the same desktop. (kde don't fall for gnome meme)

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>>62420142
>gnome meme
TAKE IT BEEEEECK

>>62420142
>>62420173
what does that mean .
I do have to install kubuntu or I can change the desktop shit on every distro?

mate and kde plasma looks kinda nice.

arch or debian sid?

>>62420279
the names/packaging varies with versions but usually there's metapackages like ubuntu-desktop and mate-desktop though IIRC you'll still need to set up your display manager.

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>>62419982
Neato. Fedora isn't exactly memory friendly however. I'm noticing this is actually a pretty heavy distro

>>62420353
>gnome

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Best Linux compatible wireless adapter via usb? And wireless card if it's worth it.
>inb4 ethernet
None in the room, but plan on getting powerline adapters as well.

>>62420362
>hating gnome

>>62420362
It's what came installed. Besides, frankly I don't see a whole lot of issues with it.

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Why can't I get a fucking display manager or tablet input drivers working on Void? Fucking X220 Tablet how the fuck do I get this shit to fucking work!!!!! It fucking locks up the system whenever I install them!!!!!!!

>>62418897
I can't understand how people can defend this shit.

>>62418970
>>62419015
OpenRC > s6 = runit > upstart > sysvinit > systemd

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>>62420569
It's not a bug, it's just the user's problem for running their system in an unorthodox way!

>>62419461
Mint.

>>62419922
This>>62420142
Ubuntu is unironically the best Linux distro. Only autistic freetards avoid it.
>>62420173
gnome sucks.

>>62419461
Which distro you choose mostly depends on personal preference and how much you want it to just work.
For just works distros you have all of the ubuntu flavors and mint. For mostly works you have opensuse, fedora, debian and solus. For super customization you have arch, gentoo and void. There are tons of other distros but those are some of the more common ones, distrowatch has a pretty good search function that lets you select things like prefered init.

>>62419996
>neofetch
That shit doesn't render images right in xfce4-terminal and it pulls in a shit ton of dependencies.

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I have dual boot setup with Windows 10 and Ubuntu Gnome, each on separate SSD. I liked Ubuntu Gnome at first but now I hate it and want go back to Xubuntu.

Can I simply install Xubuntu over Ubuntu Gnome like normal without fucking up the dual boot?

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>>62420796
>not just installing ubuntu from windows store

>>62420796
>I liked Ubuntu Gnome at first but now I hate it
>let /g/ memes influence you
Do you have a thinkpad, mechanical keyboard, chink phone, sennheiser headphones, and i3 gaps?

>>62420796
>each on separate SSD
Eugene?

>>62420858
Stanley?

>>62418784
MAC adresses represent a security/privacy issue?

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How to check if a drive is encrypted?

I have a SSD, that has the home folder and other things, and a HDD, which has media and files. I know that the SSD is encrypted because I have to enter a password during the boot. But I don't know if the HDD is encrypted.

I ask because I plan on installing another distro. I'll just move the files from SSD to HDD if the HDD is not encrypted.

>>62420557
I don't use void anymore but the xfce version came with lxdm and that worked.

>>62420682
I run gentoo but I freely admit that ubuntu is the best for most users. I run gentoo for OpenRC and muh customization.

>>62420796
On the official ubuntu flavors the seperate flavors are actually just packages. Try doing an apt search for xubuntu and seeing what packages come up thne install those. Once you're in xfce you should be able to uninstall gnome stuff.

>>62420816
>Linux
Funny how even when Linux is 100% removed people still want to call the OS "Linux".
It's almost as if the kernel isn't actually what characterizes an operating system lol.

Of course anti-GNU fags will defend it saying
>0% Linux is still Linux b-b-because stallman eats toejam and I haet freedoms

Hey guys, I came across netgear WNDR3400 from savers thrift store, and apparently it has telnet enabled, and telnet into it. I have been wondering how to do reverse shell on it, but there is couple of problems
>no netcat
>/dev/tcp is non available
>there is /proc/net/tcp, but cant seem to get it working.

when I double tabbed these were the available commands
>https://pastebin.com/xFC8jeY3

Any ideas on reverse shell?

>>62420919
MAC addresses are meant to be unique to each connection device (like every usb wifi adapter and every ethernet card has their own). A big government agency or maybe a dedicated hacker could use it to track you, but you can randomize it or just change it through software

>>62420979
Probably microsoft doesn't want to give GNU project attention because linux foundation is more corporate friendly.

>>62420365
Anything Intel or Atheros should work. Realtek is hit or miss, and Broadcom is trash.

Bois, I need a very light very normie friendly distro for an atom netbook. Only thing it's supposed to do is play youtube videos and require no maintenance. I went through some but they all seem either heavy or not normie friendly. Thanks for any input.

>>62421203
Either xubuntu, lubuntu or maybe ubuntu mate.

>>62421320
ubuntu is the definition of heavy

>>62421339
Only mainline ubuntu and kubuntu. The ones with lighter weight desktops aren't too heavy.

>>62421083
Thanks, anon. Using a rosewill wifi adapter. I believe it's realtek. It "works", but it some x amount of time to finally decide to search and connect to wifi hotspots.

>>62421203
As the other said xubuntu or lubuntu. Not sure about lubuntu but I use xubuntu quite a bit and it doesn't come prepackaged with a bunch of extra crap. I know lubuntu is suppose to be lighter than xubuntu, or from what I hear.
Puppy Linux, though I don't know if you really install puppy, or anything else with the XCFE DE work.

>>62420996
>because linux foundation is more corporate friendly.
Just how fucking friendly they have to be so they call Ubuntu from the Windows Store "Linux" when it literally contains no Linux?

MS did their implementation of a Linux subsystem, using clean room engineering only and supposedly no code from kernel.org. Windows Store Ubuntu/Suse/whatever are not Linux, not GNU/Linux maybe "GNU/NT".

>>62422247
It's literally windows-linux-subsystem. It's not none linux.

>>62420569

Since you seem to be such a knowledgeable systemd and general user, why don't you tell him how to fix it? You appear to know it's a systemd bug and not PEBCAK so help him out.

>>62420094
>fzy
Is it really better than fzf?

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>>62420796
>Don't dual boot Window & GNU/Linux
>Don't dual boot Window & Linux
>No!
>Dual boot Windows & Ubuntu!
fucking nlp faggets

>>62422474
Shill terminology in tech is no new anon.

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"Powerline" faggots, please explain how you're even able to run a command which isn't ls or cd in your terminal with all that crap.

>>62422495

They don't. All they use their terminal emulator and shell for is to update their computers.

You can tell the amount of time someone spends in their terminal emulator by their prompt. If it's something ridiculous and rice shit, like multi-line prompts or that abomination, it means they don't use it.

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What distro is lightweight (not bloated like Xubuntu), easy to use for 50 year olds that install random toolbars on IE, just werks out of the box, and is functional on shitty laptops that can't even hold a charge?

>>62422495
The thing with powerline ps1 is, nobody has it out of the box and is curious how it works. Then the adventure of how it works begins, and when it works, people proudly show that they managed it to get it work. It's basically like Arch.

>>62422247
>Just how fucking friendly they have to be so they call Ubuntu from the Windows Store "Linux" when it literally contains no Linux?
>implying the linux foundation had to pay for that naming
You basement dwelling retard. msoft is appealing to people who want the linux terminal development experience but aren't autistic enough to deal with the linux desktop. That's what they call it, so that's what the marketing material calls it.

>>62422551
50 year old people aren't stupid. Stop the bully.

>>62422566
>linux terminal
>linux desktop
stop

Just noticed this in one of my utility Bash scripts.

    flac -dc "$file" |
    lame --cbr -b 320 -m j --noreplaygain -q 0 --id3v2-only \
    --ta "$ARTIST" --tl "$ALBUM" --tt "$TITLE" --ty "$DATE" --tn "$TRACK" --tg "$GENRE" \
    - "mp3/${file%.flac}".mp3

The first line ends with the pipe "|" sign. How come it pipes it into the next line without a backslash since they're not on the same line? I wrote this a long time ago and I am still a Bash beginner, but I'm also puzzled as to how it works.

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>>62422568
this

>>62422495
You should give extraterm a go. It puts borders around each command's output so you can collapes it. You can even right click and pull up a web inspector!

>>62422568
Didn't mean to imply they were, but my dad specifically is that type of person and I need to find a distro that will be suitable for him and his 6y/o HP laptop.

>>62422580
>missing the point
I was explaining how microsoft came up with the naming conventions. Eg, the common naming convention that they are appealing to.

>average age of /fglt/: 50-70

>>62422720
rargh ragh agesim ragh ragh get off my lawn ragh ragh fortran

Benefits of Slackware?

>>62422786
...

>>62422786
There are no specific benefits, you do everything yourself. The lack of benefits is a design choice.

Back when Slack was relevant (before package managers) it was one of the most modern and simple to manage base systems.

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>check news
>*nix blogs filled with "Sublime Text 3.0 Released"
>everyone is like yaaaay
>mfw

>>62423489
well, the alternatives are vim & emacs, which have an autistic learning curve and atom, you know, that slow editor made in javascript

>>62423500
Vim doesn't have such a high learning curve tbqh. Run vimtutor and you know the basics in 10 minutes.

>>62423500
Why not just use geany?

>>62422495
Powerline is like the Thinkpads of the shell world: superlatives to a sickening excess rationalized as necessity. And whereas there are aspects of some models of Thinkpads that make them exceedingly valuable, there's ironically no practical merit to Powerline and I hope every single one of them dies of cancer, and shame on you if you do a presentation and you're using Powerline. I fucking hate that. I can't read anything, and it renders your whole presentation worthless.

>>62422561
Kind of like Zsh. God, I hate oh-my-zsh users. It makes me ashamed that I like Zsh.

>>62418784
Is there any way to rename my username on linux?

>>62423935
yes.

>>62423075
Slackware has its own package manager, you dimwit. It was one of the first distributions to have a package manager.

>>62423941
>>62423935

How?

>>62424036
You Google it.

>>62422551
let's just hope that's a vista machine with at least a c2d.

How much is your RAM?

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>Been using Kubuntu on my laptop for a while now
>I really like it
>Hear about KDE neon
Where are the differences and is it any good

>>62424055
>using Google

>>62424055
but wouldn't that break my home directory?

>>62424167
what do you recommend?

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>>62424180
Searx, DuckDuckGo, Startpage

>>62424180
I like searx, but ddg is cool too.

>>62424193
>cuckcuckgo

others are fine

>>62424251
Nothing wrong with DDG. Show me your memes and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

>>62424251
What's wrong with it?

I'm about to install Arch Linux and I would like to have full disk encryption. I don't plan to dual boot or anything, what method should I use? Do I have to do it before installing Arch?

>>62424265
>>62424283
thanks for taking the bait friendos

>>62424265
It has shit results.

>>62424378
Gives you the same results like Google, since it literally gets Google results from Google. Don't like the additional results parsed from other engines? Disable them.

>>62424298
cat install.txt

do the cryptsetup one. it's also in the wiki
it goes like this:
create your preferred partition
cryptsetup that partition
cryptsetup open it
mount the mapped decrypted partition
mount the boot (if you use boot)
chroot and pacstrap pacman
make sure to add the proper cryptshit into your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and your etc/default/grub

>>62424399
>Gives you the same results like Google, since it literally gets Google results from Google.
hahahaha
But seriously, I've been working on a browser that defaults to ddg and when I do searches in it and it doesn't have anything useful on the first page I switch to google.com and the results just happen to be better. So I know you're full of shit.

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>>62424699

>>62424720
>moving the goalposts

>>62424699
>hahahaha
>So I know you're full of shit.
Can't deny these arguments. You won.

>>62424699
You configure the programs you run, why not configure your search engine? How should it know what you want? I personally use searx, just enabled the search engines I need and I'm pretty fine (even get some neat proxy and archive links next to the results).

>>62424720
>convenience
>that standing line
the irony

>>62424775
>How should it know what you want?
Uhhh, there is a search box where I tell it what I want.
>>62424741
>gives same results
>it clearly doesn't
>cherry picks flavour text
Like you know shit about arguments buddy.

You fucking fanboys that will defend a thing to the point of denying actual truths need to take some time to introspect.

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>>62424699
>using a search engine which doesn't respect the kernel

>>62424811
results look the same here tho >>62424877

>>62423517
Same goes for emacstutorial tbhdesu

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>>62424877
>it's actually real
wtf Google

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>>62424877
>>62425000
nice digits
(actually originated from the official google+ page of linux)
I swear I didn't rename that file name!

>>62425111
lol the digits are coming nigga
proof:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tKFskOyRG-o/VRs4df8v8FI/AAAAAAAAQyM/Ripcv3YzeV4/w530-h615-n/hurrdurr.png

>>62425111
>tfw you have a beak and a fucking tooth

Sorry for the technical question but

I need this lib to use Discord, but I have no idea how to get it for Fedora 26
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libc%2B%2B/

How can I get it please?

>>62425217
install arch

>>62425217
I mean Technical Support question

I tried to install clang to get it, but it didn't work

>>62425217
install gentoo

>>62425217
Do you really want to install it?
https://discordapp.com/privacy

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>>62425111
>>62425140
>>62425111
>>62424877
what the hell, kek

>>62425223
>>62425915

Or I can just download the right package from the right repository (It was libcxx on the main Fedora repo)

>>62425943
I personally don't mind my data being harvested. I offer data for a better service overall

>>62422613
I'm not sure, but it's apparently a known thing:

https://superuser.com/questions/238791/comments-in-a-multi-line-bash-command

As always, you can literally cut and paste bash scripts line-for-line into your terminal to get the same effect, and it seems that shells are smart enough to ask for something to pipe into.

>>62423935
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Users_and_groups#Change_a_user.27s_login_name_or_home_directory

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reminder

I used to see a lot of hate towards Manjaro (about outdated packages and security flaws) but recently I've seen a lot of people recommending it.
Is it any good? Are there any reasons to use it over Arch, besides being easier to install?

>>62426977
just use arch like a non retard
or void if you're at least of average intelligence

>>62426977
Manjaros packages are like 2-4 weeks behind Arch.
Manjaro doesn't have any security flaws, their forum, however has some SSL problems, which were solved in a pretty incompetent way.
Manjaro is good for normies who like to use the AUR and don't want to worry about breakage. There are some cool prericed community editions like Manjaro with bspwm or i3.
tl;dr Arch for lazy people

>>62427060
Whats the point of Void? I forgot it.

>>62418784
How do i get that synth A E T H S T E T I C on linux? what is the best distro.

>>62426831
Just got a creepy daydream of web in 2050. A website service, "peop.le", build on collected data bought from facebook, google, etc, hosting profiles of every person on the planet.
>Anon, born in Somewhere
>Known for [...], [...], [...]
>Propably gay
>Last search queries: [...]
>People who think he sucks: [...]
>Current location: [...]

at least it was just a dream.

>>62427163
install gentoo
>>62427169
take ur meds

>>62427169
what does that have to do with systemd

>>62427169
2050? more like right fucking now my guy, shit exist's, people got every reason to be spooked about stuff like this

How come a program I'm trying to run complains "GLSL 3.30 is not supported", but glxinfo says "OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.1.6"? Shouldn't my machine support opengl all the way to 4.5, then?

If I run the program with MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.0, it somehow magically seems to work, but it throws a million warnings. I'd love to have glsl3.3 support for my vmware windows client, but it doesn't support 3d at all if I try to run it with this same trick.

I just installed Arch.
What's a good music player?

>>62427360
cmus

>>62426977
One of the easier ways to get an i3 environment up-and-running. And installation is more straightforward as a whole.

Otherwise, literally no reason to use it.

And to be perfectly accurate: the most difficult part of the Arch installation is partitioning. Hell, it's the most difficult part of any modern Linux installation. Once you sit down and really try to understand partitioning, you'll realize that the rest of the Arch installation guide truly is just copy-and-pasting and that its difficulty is WAY overblown.

>>62427360
Deadbeef is plays basically everything and uses few dependencies. You might prefer CLI music players, though.

>>62427360
read the OP

Am I going to have sex in uni if I install Gentoo?

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>>62427360
install gentoo

>>62427470
lol no, far from it

>>62427360
emacs

>>62422551
Lubuntu

>>62423489
Shilling is hitting hard

>>62426831
The definition of cuck, the deliberately sabotage our community

>>62427169
Spooky
>>62427194
>dns resolver in your "init"
>more metadata sent from you to the network
>several exploits known to make systemd through wayland take screenshots from your desktop without your permission
Is an instrument of evil and mass surveillance

>>62427360

You installed Arch?! Whoaaaaa. What an achievement! Please don't hack us, haha, you're such a hacker and computer freak. Ha ha, you know so much about computers!

Getting a thinkpad sat, what distro will be good for

>School
>Programming

And a deal that's
>Low resource intensive
>Good for weeb shit
>easy to rice

I've used arch based, Ubuntu based, and fedora

I'll also remote desktop sometimes if that's important to note

>>62427747
My init system can take screenshots?
lol you cannot make this shit up

Also does it really send metadata to anyone at all about anything? I'd be interested in hearing more about that. I see no reason whatsoever an init system should ever send data over the network.

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>>62428017
Gentoo

>>62428017
Literally any distro

>>62426831
I'm more concerned about the /usr shit. It's just don't make any sense to keep so files. Also bin and sbin is a meme there as for compatibility they still have to keep them in /. Watch out.

>>62428238
sbin and bin are separate so non-root users don't tab complete to root commands

>>62428433

Useless nowadays because you almost always have superuser rights (with sudo) and then it's useful to have tab completion for them.

>>62428455
sudo has (or should have) different command completion

>>62418784
Can i put a different distro of linux on a chrome book, and not have it be always online?

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>>62428433
>having terminal without sudo/su
Also you can always sudo !! It's just comfier.

>>62428541
Yes, with varying degrees of difficulty. Which Chromebook do you have?

>>62428572
idk, my mom heard about linux and now she wants me to put a distro of it on her computer, even after i explained that chromeOS was a distro, she said she wanted one with a penguin because it's cute. also if it helps i think she bought it for like 150, maybe 200. i dont wanna go full autist on her

>>62428597
Well, without knowing which Chromebook it is, I can't help you.
You might be able to figure it out somewhere in 'chrome://version' on ChromeOS

>>62428657
i hate to be a tech illterate autist, but i belive its this model
https://www.staples.com /Refurbished-Acer-Chromebook-CB3-532-C47C-156-16-GB-Flash-2-GB/product_2715844?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:2715844&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=2715844&KPID=2715844&cvosrc=PLA.google-SALES.Computers&cvo_crid=39357181302&cvo_campaign=173959182&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0ejNBRCYARIsACEBhDME3ISVK2nEW1zl-hTQv9cbdPssUi3Yhwb8DNXMoXlBhqbFj9XaYsAaApRxEALw_wcB

>>62428711
There's a space in your URL.

>>62428848
right after .com

>>62428711
The information here might be useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chrome_OS_devices

What do you put in you /var ?

>>62428872
Thanks anon!

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>>62428813
>>62428834
CLOSED NOTABUG

I'm switching over to using LibreOffice fulltime on my laptop running Arch. I generally have no problems with it, but how is autocorrect supposed to work? I'm used to Word autocorrect where it will automatically correct many typos, and will show the red underline for any misspelled words. LibreOffice never seems to autocorrect words, which I can deal with, but it also never displays the red underline for typos. Is this normal, and if so is there any way to turn it on? I can't spell for shit please help

>>62428944
You have to install a dictionary, I think. It should have come up as an optional dependency when you were installing libreoffice.

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>>62428944

>tfw ubuntu users can simply switch the init system
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Switching_init_systems

I was updating Xubuntu when I plugged in AC power and it kept asking me to restart. I'm a new linux user and I thought it might be apart of the update process.. so I did so.

Now when I start Xubuntu I get a bunch of text and "Kernel Offset: Disabled
end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)"

What should I do from here? Not much in the way of files I'm concerned over, but being able to recover some would be nice.

>>62429152

Boot into your Xubuntu installer, select "Try Xubuntu" and copy your files over to an USB flash drive.
As for your error, no idea what you even did, sounds like you fucked something up during the install. Did you reboot during the installation process? The likelihood of something becoming fucked up during an update is minimal, since you shouldn't be getting any "new" versions of software.

>>62429188
I hadn't updated in months. Not sure what caused it, might not even be related to the update but whatever, I still love xubuntu.

Since I'm going to have to reinstall does anyone have a recommended distro I can try that's lightweight, fast and good for firsttime linux users? Anything "better" than Xubuntu?

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>>62428876
Leave var alone.

man hier

>>62418897
Halp?

When I try to plug in my second GPU, Linux spazzes out with a kernel panic and won't boot up, where can I find the error messages? Its not in journalctl. BTW I use Arch.

>>62430000
dmesg maybe?

>>62429982
Look into autofs

>>62429982
Give up, we all abandoned the systemd sinking ship

>>62430103
I dont need to install more software.

>>62430109
I dont have time to manage 50 non systemd packages and nope nothing breaks

>>62430102
How can I dmesg anything more than current session? I thought journalctl is the same?

>>62430128
That's why you install a distro that actually comes without systemd. Obviously you don't want to do it yourself, if Poettering has done his job correctly that should be next to impossible for you

>>62430128
Just give up

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>>62430000 here, this is the only thing I see when I try to boot it up

>>62418784
I want an easy Linux experience that will play my Linux supported steam games well, any suggestions?

>>62430208
>>62430213
There were no distros that didnt migrate to systemd 7 years ago when i did this install.I dont have time to manage distros like arch or gentoo,

Either contribute something usefull or go be toxic somewhere else

>>62430281
This is a friendly thread.
Please delete your post.

>>62430128
>I dont need to install more software.

I don't understand this. If you don't want to find a solution, why ask us?

>>62430278
Not to fuel a debate but Devuan exists, that is what I use to avoid problems with systemd

>>62430270
SteamOS
Ubuntu
Zorin
Solus
Fedora

>>62430306
Installing autofs wont solve anything. Mounting isnt the issue, the problem is not accessing the the drive until its needed

>>62430311
Devuan didnt exist 7 years ago. I'm not hopping to a new distro

Which ircs do you guys idle on?

>>62430327
>Mounting isnt the issue, the problem is not accessing the the drive until its needed
...which is what autofs does.

Did you actually look into autofs, as was suggested?

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I asked /dpt/ but nobody seems to know anything.
Would anybody care to explain this? The program compiles on Free/OpenBSD with no warnings whatsoever.

>>62430358
Installing autofs will not prevent systemd from trying to access the device before it is setup.
Mounting isnt an issue, its locking up the systtem waiting for the device, which isnt setup

>>62430000
>>62430250
Please help guys

>>62430000
install gentoo

Can you pipe something into two commands (besides piping it into a single script that does 2+ commands?)

>>62430578
Give a clear example of what you're saying.

>>62430378
Look into how to troubleshoot systemd errors.

https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/
among other resources

Is there an htop similar but for networking?
Like list all applications using the network and report their bandwidth usage?

>>62430578
Output to a file and read it from the two commands? Not sure if parallel or xargs can do this but check them

>>62430578

printf 'A\nB\nC\nD\n' | tee >(grep A > A.out) >(grep B > B.out) >(grep C > C.out) > /dev/null

>>62430612
There is nothing to debug,systemd no longer accepts noauto and x-systemd.automount
There are no services that are failing.

>>62430618
iftop

>>62430708
That dosent show applicatiosn, that just shows hostname/ip

>>62430680
>There is nothing to debug,systemd no longer accepts noauto and x-systemd.automount
>There are no services that are failing.
>systemd no longer accepts noauto and x-systemd.automount
>DON'T EXIST ANYMORE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The true power of systemd

>>62430717
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.mount.html

>>62430680
>systemd no longer accepts noauto and x-systemd.automount

I feel like this is just an exercise in frustration since all you want to do is say systemd is terrible, rather than figure out solutions.

noauto and systemd.automount have not been removed. There have been no issues that have popped up on Github or elsewhere. The issue -- assuming it's real and you're not just a samefagging troll -- is likely hidden in your journalctl output, which you refuse to share. That's fine; just don't shit up the thread and stop asking for help.

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues
Go ^here. Make an issue. Get answers from people who'd actually be able to help you.

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how to change default web browser while using xdg-open?
manjaro here

>>62431107
xdg-open will check which DE you're running and call something based on that. for example, if you're running kde you can change it in systemsettings

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>>62431160

>>62431192
ps. CUPS asked me for default browser and I typed google-chrome instead google-chrome-stable and now I can't change it

>>62418784
Not a question just some shit that annoy me
>policykit
Sudo is great because it has memory.
Use sudo before a command, sudo asks for password, then you have 5 minutes or so to use sudo again without asking for password
Policykit sucks balls and it's a travesty it's incorporated so deep in the Linux gui. It keeps asking for password, it's shit!

>quick, add this printer/hardware/share/port in firewall/whatever
Linux is shit for this too. You may have a perfectly tuned system but in real world conditions something happens and you have to change something.
In other OS you simply click some shit and shit usually works, in Linux you have to frantically type commands and the other person looks you with pity

>color management
It's shit. Cups is pretty good, better than the Windows printing system but once you need color accuracy it all comes tumbling down.
Color profiles in Linux and their intergration with programs and printers sucks.

>>62431212
as I said, xdg-open checks which DE you're running. you can just open the xdg-open script and you'll see what I mean. it tries to determine if you're running KDE, Gnome, XFCE or whatever, then calls whatever method the DE uses (for example kde-open if it detects KDE). this means that if you're running KDE you can change it using the normal KDE settings, if you run Gnome you change it there and so on.

>>62431192
>>62431212
>>62431260
solved

xdg-settings set default-web-browser chromium.desktop

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I'm trying to fix some continuity issues with my arch installation

opening files from the download bar thing in chromium typically doesn't open the files in the right program (images opening in firefox, zip files opening in firefox as well, since apparently I have no GUI archive managers)
I also get a few different file picker dialogs, sometimes there's one with a image preview, but another one without previews, and I'd rather only use the one that has previews
anyone know how to fix this stuff?

>>62431419

$ cat ./.config/mimeapps.list | grep zip
application/zip=xarchiver.desktop;

You could edit this file to fix the association but you shouldn't and you should use your desktop environment's mime association editor. In Xfce this is

$ xfce4-mime-settings

>>62431495
please excuse my pointless use of cat, I'm deeply sorry

>>62431495
I use i3 and there's no specific editor I know of

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>arch ships nonfree blobs with their kernel
Why aren't we (all of us, not just Arch) using Linux-libre? I thought the kernel was free, but it turns out the mainline kernel is full of blobs and proprietary firmware.

What exactly makes Linux more malware/virus resistant than windows?

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>alias cat='less'

>>62431419
set up default using xdg

>>62431584
how would I do that? xdg will just open something in a specific program

How do I create a live-usb of my current mint install?

>>62431615

$ man xdg-mime

>>62431550
open source software gets patched quicker, and there's less loopholes because there's autists constantly checking everything
hackers also write less malware because of the first one, and it's much easier to exploit windows (see NSA tool leak)
it's not really anything inherent to the kernel or OS themselves

How come when I use ssh I can tab-complete 'ssh username@hostname' but not 'ssh hostname'

>>62431550
Its inherent design model, which includes focus on free software, and package managers. But it's not "more resistant" than any other operating system; you can just as easily, say, package a malicious deb file or executable for Linux as you can an exe for Windows.

What's the consensus on LXQT?

>>62431683
Because you're using bash instead of superior fish.

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How do I unfuck the free AMDGPU drivers on KDE Neon?
After trying out the proprietary ones and finding out that those suck, I uninstalled amdgpu-pro
But now my system refuses to boot without nomodeset
Sorry if I'm a retard, but I could really use some help right now

>>62431683
In Debian at least bash tab completion is specified (among other places) in /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ssh. Inside this directory there is a ssh file. The file that sources this location is /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh

You could make your own bash completion functions by studying these file but in my opinion don't bother.

>>62422294
The fix is to stop using systemd.

>>62431737
Honestly I'd be using sh if I didn't think half my scripts would break because of it. Too far gone and lazy too un-bash shit now.

>>62431765
Oh. Thanks.

>>62422551
How is xubuntu bloated? It just looks like a standard xfce setup to me.

>>62431753
If I were you I would check if the amdgpu driver created a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Normally you don't need this file so just rename it if it exists.

>>62431834
it's not i3

Is there a tutorial for Linux starting from scratch to building a LFS system? Arch Wiki requires me to open 100+ tabs and I kind of lose control soon after. What I am looking for is an organized and structured guide.

Something like this but for the entire Linux:

http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/coreutils.html

>>62422613
I guess bash is smart enough to realize that the command wasn't done because of the pipe. You should probably fix that though.

>>62431797

PEBCAK as expected.

>>62423500
If you use the graphical version of emacs you can use it like a typical editor with drop down menus and everything.

>>62424162
KDE neon is basically kubuntu but with a ppa from the KDE projects that gets you more up to date KDE software.

>>62431859
>Is there a tutorial for Linux starting from scratch to building a LFS system?

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/

>>62424265
The owner isn't very trustworthy. He had a company before duckduckgo that basically focused on selling personal information.

>>62424298
If you have a spare hard drive you could theoretically encrypt after the install by dding an image of your installed hard drive to the other hard drive, then encrypting the os drive then dding the image back but it's easier to do it at install.

>>62427470
Nah, but you'll become real good at masturbating to hentai.

t. Gentoo user

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>decide to try kubuntu
>live works
>normal install wipe disk and shit
>everythin crashes even the terminal and the screensaver

What the fuck?

>>62428042
If you use systemds dns resolver it defaults to googles dns. Also they integrated an http server a while back, they probably think an init system should have a web interface.

>>62428597
Just set her wallpaper to a penguin ;)

>>62431981
thats kubuntu working as intended. notice how nobody ever recommended it?

>>62431981
Kubuntu is a failed abortion. Use Fedora, KDE Neon or Debian for KDE.

>>62431981
Just use OpenSUSE and select KDE during installation. Kubuntu is a disaster.

>>62432018
You forgot OpenSUSE

>>62432054
Never used OpenSUSE so I wouldn't know.

>>62428813
>pointless differences between distributions
That statement says so much about the systemd teams mentality. They really believe that all the distros should be the same and that one implementation of GNU/Linux should do everything. I hate that mentality, for so long we have benefited from specialized distros and even general ones with different designs allowing you to get whats perfect for your use but now they want us to be windows.

>>62429349
You could try lubuntu, it uses lxde which is a little lighter than xfce. I prefer xfce myself though.

>>62430000
What gpu? You could try adding nomodeset to the kernel command line as nvidia gpus are known to spaz without that.

>>62428876
Unbound stores some keys in /var/lib.

>>62430378
Remove the drive from your fstab and have autofs manage it. systemd hopefully won't try to mount it if it's not in fstab.

>>62432169
Again, autofs is not needed.

>>62431845
Its not there
What now?

>>62432016
kek

>>62432018
>>62432028
>>62432100

Restarted a couple of times and now it opens firefox at least.
I just wanted to try this kde plasma thing.

im going to try kde neon I guess..

also this shit asked me if I want to use nvidia drivers(recomended) or xorg.
should I trust nvidia?

>>62431577
But how are you going to concatenate files?

>>62432185
Autofs does what you want though, it mounts the drive when you want to access it. Why are you so opposed to using something that will solve your problem? If you really still want to be able to mount things from fstab properly then switch to a non-systemd distro.

>>62431753
Do you use SI card? Add radeon.si_support=0 radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 amdgpu.cik_support=1 kernel flag

>>62432247
Because it isnt a solution, it is a work around. This has been working for ~7 years. Im not installing software that i dont need.

Just because YOU dont know how to fix it or how to run it does not mean switching to a new distro is the solution

>>62432083
What I don't get is how anyone takes their side.
Is there even a single user in these threads who have actually benefited from systemd?
The very few who would actually have experience using it in detail I can only imagine that if they like it they're comparing it to older init systems other than openrc or are bash-illiterate and think systemds own language is "user friendly"

Is there really anyone sitting here right now saying
>I just love knowing that my PID1 is built with gnome users in mind and nobody else, and that my kernel panic surface is about 10 times greater than it needs to be
I just don't get it.

Are the systemd supporters all just noobs trying to fit in and sound like they know more than they do?
Are these the same people who are anti-GNU? Because it sometimes feels like its the same crowd.

>>62432110
R9 290 and an RX 560. They both work if they are plugged in separately, but not together.

>>62432313
That odd. Those are both new enough to use the fancy amdgpu drivers. Do you have the linux-firmware package installed? You might be missing some firmware.

>>62432297
You're assuming systemd isn't broken. That's your problem.
Instead of being angry with us why don't you try getting angry at systemd?

How braindead do you have to be to actually expect a bunch of people who (clearly) dislike systemd to be able to help you with your very specific problem?

I don't have it running. What the hell do you want me to do?
We aren't your personal tech support team. Go ask somewhere else.

>>62432349
Nope, its all up to date. The R9 seems like its broken, it freezes the Xorg randomly, but it still boots up and works until that if it's the only card. If I swap it with a new card and plug it in the secondary slot of does that.

>>62432357
>I don't have it running.
>We aren't your personal tech support team
yet you continue to post and shill autofs

>>62432401
Autofs has nothing to do with systemd. autofs is a daemon designed to automatically mount things when they are used and then unmount them based on a timer. Don't confuse autofs with systemds automounts.

>>62432423
systemd-mount is a daemon designed to automatically mount things when they are used and then unmount them based on a timer.

>>62432290
>SI card
Not sure what you mean by that
Its an A10 9600p with a R7m 340

>>62432439
I'm not talking about systemds cancer mount implementation. I'm talking about autofs https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/AutoFS which has been around longer than systemd.

what are you supposed to do to get missing wifi drivers working while live booting

MAKE A NEW FUCKING THREAD ALREADY THIS ONE HIT THE BUMP LIMIT, RETARDS.

>>62432586
wew lad calm down

>>62432550
Download them on another computer.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ext4#Using_file-based_encryption

Anyone know what Ubuntu fags should do when they reach the part of this that needs e4crypt?
I tried apt install e4crypt, doesn't seem to exist.

The command before that

sudo tune2fs -O encrypt /dev/sdb1
tune2fs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
Invalid filesystem option set: encrypt

doesn't work either. Not sure why not. This is Ubuntu 16.04.3.
Testing out fs level encryption on a 4gb usb drive.

>>62432934
e4crypt needs to be enabled in the kernel

>>62432951
Supposedly it is by default. Knowing Fagonical they removed it. I probably need to install the mainline kernel. Ubuntu honestly pisses me off sometimes with their special snowflake bullshit.

>>62432586
wow slow

>>62432493

>he thinks systemd has its own mount implementation
There is no point in talking to you meme spreader. Complain some more, your user induced issue might fix itself if you complain enough.

>>62433268
But it does.
systemd-mount

Hey /g/ il treat this like a qtddtot, I tried asking /v/ but they'd rather argue about Nintendo.
I just got a laptop, the specs aren't fantastic but it's maybe 2 years old, integrated gpu and an i5.

I really want to put Ubuntu on it because I don't want a ton of bloat on my system, but Im hesitant to pull the trigger because I like idea of uniformity between my desktop and my newly acquired laptop. All I want is for it to be able to play movies, do my homework, and play some lightweight steam games. Should I?

>>62433286

It uses mount to do that you idiot.

>>62433375
Systemd forked mount to make systemd-mount.

>>62433341
Yeah

>>62433389

Post proof and then kill yourself after you fail because that's blatantly wrong.
Why do you even bother posting about things you have no knowledge of? Too bad there aren't more in-depth memes where you could get your knowledge from.

>>62433435
Thanks

>>62433436
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.mount.html

Didn't intentionally time this for when you faggots were arguing about mounting but does Debian in command line mode/i3 mode mount USB drives the same way Ubuntu does in graphical mode?
I'm so used to Ubuntu just fucking werking with USB drives, this was probably the main reason I even started using Ubuntu, I remember for years no distro, all the way back to the days of Caldera was getting this right. I really hope things have moved forward for non Ubuntu distros.

I want to ask a thing but I don't want to be sunken into the abyss, someone make thread please.

>>62433453
Ubuntu LTS is what you need btw. Always go with LTS and you will be fine 99.999% of the time.

>>62433477

Where does it say it's their own implementation of mount, you fucking idiot? Find me that proof. You still can't, because it doesn't do that you imbecile.

$ systemctl status tmp.mount | grep Process
  Process: 231 ExecMount=/usr/bin/mount tmpfs /tmp -t tmpfs -o mode=1777,strictatime,nosuid,nodev (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

$ packagemanager who-owns /usr/bin/mount
util-linux

Can you call your mom and tell her to cut off your internet connection? Because your retardation is bothering people.

>>62433519
I appreciate the followup, good looking out, thank you sensei

>>62433477

> which define the execution environment the mount(8) binary is executed in
Did you even read your own page you moron?

>average systemd-commenter on this board

When using "vi-mode" in readline are there any more efficient hotkeys for entering command mode other than Esc?

I know there are alternatives, Shift+arrow keys for instance, and also I think shift+ins.

But those are almost just as awkward and far away as the escape key. Is there nothing closer to the home row

>>62433701
Just found ctrl+3 which is significantly better. But can we even better? It's a pretty important hotkey I don't see why it shouldn't be very close by and comfortable to use

Is there something like CRUX that has some fucking wireless drivers in the installation media? I'd love to try CRUX out but I cannot install it.