>install linux >can't play any games I'm sure

I keep a windows 10 partition for gaymen

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>>62409563
I have a PS4 for that. A computer is for coding, a console is for gaming.

>>62409563
>Do you guys not play any games on your PC?
not really anymore, no

>>62409563
Not sure what you're talking about OP

https://itch.io/games/platform-linux
https://www.gog.com/mix/great_gog_games_that_works_on_linux
http://store.steampowered.com/linux

However I would suggest being careful with these as the vast majority of them are proprietary software and an enemy of your freedom.

Also, I'm pretty sure what you actually mean is that "GNU/Linux can't play a certain specific game that I like" which I don't doubt is true. Exclusive software has long been part of video gaming, it's even worse on consoles where there isn't even a possibility of using something like Wine. Before you get yourself hooked on another game that forces you to use a certain operating system or piece of hardware, take some time to think about who really holds the power in the relationship you have with your video games. If you come to the same conclusion that many GNU/Linux users have, you will see why software freedom is important.

>>62409581
>windows 10
To the trash it goes.

>>62409969
>https://itch.io/games/platform-linux
Most games promoting terrorism or cannibalism.

>>62409563
>but what about gaming?
Well, if you still are a game addict you are not ready for Linux

>>62409969
How would I monetize a free software game?>>62409563
There are many games, many you can play and many that just exist to tempt you to install windows. You have to resist the evil to become enlightened.

>>62410039
There are some gayming on linux. The worst platform i know is openbsd as it won't support even a compatibility layer for loonix or drivers for proper opengl support. At least it's kinda safe.

>>62409563
I use Windows, but was thinking about making some linux distro partition for everything else than games.
>>62409827
Consoles too much and can't run new games for shit. You're better off building a good PC and enjoying smooth 60-120 fps along with free modding and emulators.
>>62409969
You have to admit that you need WINE to run most games on Linux, and using that makes you lose 30-40 FPS which sucks.

>>62410027
what

>>62410115
>>>/v/

>>62410042
>How would I monetize a free software game?
Follow the wow modell. The other way is to release the code after milked every penny from it and won't reuse the code for anything else. It's more fair for everyone.

>>62409563
All games worth anything also comes out on Linux tho... Steam has several thousands games on Linux. You can play a new game every day and never run out because they are constantly coming out.

>>62410042
>How would I monetize a free software game?
like you would monetize any free software. GNU and Richard Stallman recommends selling the software for money or a related service in some way or other.

>>62409969
Oh fuck off. Now I have to worry about the fucking philosophy behind gaming.
This post is the epitome of why Linux will never be the main operating system, you're so far up your own ass that you'll never comprehend the needs of most people.
>inb4 games are gay
It's a billion dollar industry, maybe people would care a bit more about your fucking system if they could play normally without bullshit virtualization/passthroughs/enemas.
Then you wonder why the general public doesn't give a shit. Linux has so much potential but fucktards like you that take pride in "muh freedom" and then bitch about poor software, unstability, excessive distros, systemd, whatever.
For fuck's sake, not even the developers agree on what direction to take. It could be the best thing ever, but fuck that, right? Only fools would want a bigger share of the market.

>>62410277
>maybe people would care a bit more about your fucking system if they could play normally without bullshit virtualization/passthroughs/enemas.

which they can with the majority of new games.

>>62410042
>How would I monetize a free software game?
I don't like how people use the term "monetize" to refer to software these days, it implies that the software doesn't have intrinsic value that people should understand. Internet economics have driven the price of a lot of software to zero.

But anyway, you make money off free software the same way a proprietary developer would: by providing valuable products and services for your customers. In the case of games, there is nothing stopping you from putting a free software game on any of these "app stores," except for maybe the iOS app store which apparently still has terms that are GPL-incompatible (if you use the GPL for your game, which you likely may want to). See this wikipedia page for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_models_for_open-source_software

Also read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" for some more elaboration on that. All of that applies to businesses that want to work with free (libre) software.

>>62410115
>You have to admit that you need WINE to run most games on Linux
Did you see the links I posted? There are many games that run natively now. I don't suggest playing them because they're proprietary, but you can if you really want.

>>62410220
Except racing gaymes. If you are an fps or rts fag you will be fine.

>>62410437
I'm playing dirt rally right now it's great. Dirt showdown is okay but too arcadey for my taste. Grid autosport is out for linux too but i've never played it.

>>62409563
http://www.davidgis.fr/blog/index.php?2017/05/17/1191-honey-select-on-linux-wine-28-gallium-nine

>>62409563
>Do you guys not play any games on your PC?

I do not.

>>62410437
>tfw no overwatch

>>62410277
>Now I have to worry about the fucking philosophy behind gaming.

You had to worry about that anyway, in many circumstances, for example when you chose to be a PC gamer instead of just a console peasant. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you didn't just do that for no reason and put some thought into it, in which case it's absolutely philosophical.

>It's a billion dollar industry, maybe people would care a bit more about your fucking system if they could play normally without bullshit virtualization/passthroughs/enemas.

Yes it's true that they would. Our community would port more games if we could, but we can't because they're proprietary software.

>Only fools would want a bigger share of the market.

Free software does not exist to generate profit, its goal is to maximise freedom. Perhaps it would be more popular if people valued freedom more. But if the "needs of most people," as you say, are to use their computers to play proprietary video games, then there's not much we can do but wait for them to get bored with that.

# pacman -S stone-soup
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>>62410680
Directx is a key component for Microsoft.
If companies suddenly decided to use vulkan they would be fucked.
Beside corporation and office, directx maintain a very large base of installed users that depend on windows to play games

>>62410734
What are the pro's of Vulkan over direct X any how? ya know, outside of the whole, easier to port to linux thing

I play dwarf fortress and roguelikes sometimes
dota 2 when friends invite me

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But I do, my own implementation of FreeCell.

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>>62410042
Just sell the game normally and only give the source code to paying customers, just like you would with the binaries. This is perfectally valid under the GPL.

>>62409563
>install linux on desktop
>can't play any games
>can't work either because productive software isn't supported
Linux on desktop is absolutely trash, is great for servers though

i only play tf2 and gamecube/n64 games

>>62409563
You need to be a total nigger novadays if you're can't play on linux.
Even if you don't play native games, free as in freedom.
Even if you're not playing legacy via DOSbox.
Even if you're not playing cross-compiled from HumbleBundle.
Then you have native Steam client with 1500+ gaems.

>>62410931
What productive software r u refering to? If u cant find a counterpart on linux ur too dumb enough for linix

>>62410042
you sell the builds.
Aseprite does it like that, they keep their source code and build instructions up, but sell the actual builds

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>>62410931
>Linux
>Productive software isn't supported

>>62409563
A good oppertunity to go cold turkey on ur vidya addiction

>>62409563
>Linux
>Games

>>62410220
>>62410961
>install Linux to avoid the Windows proprietary botnet
>immediately install the Steam proprietary botnet

when you pirate games at least you can block them from connecting to the internet so they can't possibly phone home, unlike with Steam.

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>>62409563
I get by

>I let a moral philosophy dictate my software choices
>NOT the hardware ones though
>You chinese children keep making my hard drives

>>62411141
>he thinks phoning home is the worst
These days steam installs denuvo malware onto your machines and doesn't even tell you about it.

>>62410917
why does no one actually do that?
I do not really see the drawbacks, and it might even boost your game because modders have it so easy

>>62410917
>>62411242
Becuase its pretty dumb anyone can copy n slightly change the code to sell their own version of the game

>>62411031
Don't even have to go that far; your game presumably has proprietary music, sounds, and artwork, which can't be freely distributed. The source code can be completely GPL, but the game won't actually be playable unless you have those assets or go through the effort of making new ones.

A GPL game is no more difficult to profit from than a DRM-free game.

>>62411297
Really? That sounds too dumb to be true. There must be any free licenses that prohibit reselling

>>62409563
can we start banning gameposters? if you still play videogames you're obviously underage.

>>62411329
Yeah, just make your assets proprietary and they will have to replace all the art/sounds with shitty versions. Otherwise, you can sue them for copyright infringement.

>>62411369
Can't I just give them the code and forbid them to redistribute it? Only for private use and modding? Would this still count as free software?

>>62411303
actually that reminds me, this fella does something similar
http://keeperrl.com/download/
https://github.com/miki151/keeperrl
The game is sold on Steam but the source code is fully available. He offers a free ASCI version of the game which doesn't include those graphics. Seems like a real fun game, definitely a nice combo of genres

>>62409563
>Do you guys not play any games on your PC?
No. Save some classic ones. We HACKER nao.

>>62411460
thanks for bringing that to my attention. You may just gave a decent developer a sale

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>>62410680
>there's not much we can do but wait for them to get bored with that.

How does one tire of the pleasures of life?
I can think of two ways:
- Get old and die
- Embrace something similar to eastern philosophies which affirm that the fulfillment of desire is not a durable basis for well-being or even happiness and consider the half-lives of positive emotions as fleeting and disruptive to greater virtue as negative ones' and so deprecate catering to those emotions for cultivation of discipline and skills for a more harmonious society and self (Confucianism) or to be closer to enlightened buddhahood (Mayahana bulljive) or in better balance with the duality of the Universe (Taoism) of which we are hapless phenomena.

Neither of these options is seriously tenable for the average user; Linux still unviable alternative to Windows botnet, and freetards are still apologizing for it by negating the premise instead of working towards that viability in their crusade of autism much pathoskek

>What are Half Life, TF2, Civ V & Vi, Portal, EU IV

>>62411689
I don't know for me linux is better. I only play simulation, roguelike and indie games (both have very good support on linux) and the customization possibilites are awesome.

I also like not being spied on

>>62411806
>playing games on a fucking computer

>>62411806
Oh, you're still being spied on, friend. Your OS doesn't change that

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>>62411794
I can into DF, but Vi is still unbearable. Emacs much better IMHO. And so is CLion because I'm in the 21st fucking century fámalamalamsenpai

>>62411830
yeah I know it's inevitable but I like to fight back a bit

also it kinda pisses me off that I am supposed to pay for an os, and instead of respecting my privacy they still continue to milk me and sell my data

>>62411168
>giving a shit about Chinese kids
I just don't want my OS to phone home on me senpai. Now it's true that a ton of hardware is shady on that front.

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>>62411817
pic related
>>62411859
Good point. Profiting from data and injecting ads? Sounds like that income stream obviates charging the user for your botnet. But that's like how cable was supposed to be free because it had commercials: nah, we'll charge you for the privilege anyway, faggot. Hehe.

The sad thing is we'll likely never break the cycle out of this paradigm (or, worse, it'll intensity as we into Samurai Jack cyberpunk dystopia).

>>62410220
>All games worth anything also comes out on Linux tho...
you have not even the slightest idea what you are talking about, right?

either that or
nice troll, m8

>>62411689
>Neither of these options is seriously tenable for the average user

You ignored the third way (which I mentioned) which is
- They get bored of it

This is what your fulfillment of desire is based on. The "average user" you describe has no attention span. They WILL lose interest before they get old and die. This is why new shit is being made every year.

>>62411929
I know more than you apparently.

I don't play games. I have a windows 10 VM with my decent GPU passed to it, but I haven't used it in months.

>>62411412
>forbid them to redistribute
>free software
I don't think so mate. this is one of the four essential freedoms

>>62411412
Free software must be usable for any purpose.

>>62412011

Do you know about Dark Souls?
The Witcher 3?
Fallout: New Vegas?

>>62409563
So you installed GNU plus Linux without knowing this? Also there are plenty of games, even more if you use Wine. You're just making excuses to run back to windows like a pussy bitch.

>>62411989
To me, getting bored of interactive media is like getting bored of passive media (music, shows, porn) or the taste of good coffee in the morning. Few people ever "lose interest" in those things as vehicles of pleasure unless they meet the two ways I could think of. I see no "third way" to lost interest; you're only offering the end result of no specified cause.

You could point out that you (and maybe most people) find more value in passive than in interactive media and that the latter is thus expendable enough to be excised from one's life completely. I can't argue with that beyond disagreeing that that's how I feel.

Let's hope that someone doesn't try filling the vacuum with creative work like video or image editing.

Emulation my dude

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>>62411806
>I only play simulation, roguelike and indie games
What do you do if ESVI: Elsweyr With Actual Furry Sex Plus Morrowind the Way It Used to Be came out? It's a AAA title with no hope for Linux support and with a high performance demand to render all the realistic fur and swarms of cliff racers. Feelsbadman.bpg

>>62412250
No, you miss the point. Interactive media did not exist in its current form until a few decades ago. It will change again dramatically in our lifetime, it's practically inevitable.

>>62412387
In what way? VR? Because I doubt Linux or the FOSS paradigm is any more amenable to that than it is to current gaming. From your perspective, the only favorable change seems to be "decline into irrelevance", and I don't think (nor hope) that's the way the wind is blowing, anon.

>>62409563
>>>/t/769497

Now go to play games on Linux, you nigger

Only play cs:go anyway if I game which is rare, so no need for windows.

>>62409563
For the hundredth time you brain dead shill, install Wine.