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thinking of getting this monitor anybody know how good it is?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=24-025-555&utm_source=Bluecore&utm_medium=BehEmail&utm_campaign=Post_Browsed&cm_mmc=EMCPB-092017-_-PB-_-Bluecore-_-Content&obem=Wr4qKwS7Wi7YmyQF0dCo4k06e6N6xIEPxDIsASw_z5E%3D

This is in response to one of the last posts in the last thread. I'm the guy upgrading, likely getting the 1060 and deciding whether or not to upgrade cpu/mobo

>Ryzen Card

I think you may have misunderstood, Ryzen is the cpu

>Upgrade my cpu or not, should I OC? i5 3570k

Doi dude, I'm surprised you hadn't already, you already have the motherboard for it. It's free performance. All you have to do is watch one video on youtube and it's that easy. Preferably watch one using the same motherboard manufacturer as you so you can navigate the bios, then google average overclock settings for your specific cpu then adjust from there since every cpu overclocks slightly different.

my response:


Mistype, not misunderstood. Sorry I'm just got the term mixed up since we're talking both cpu and gpu. My bad.

Yeah, I'm terribly ignorant on OC, I've always been afraid I'll fry my component or something, but it seems much easier than I believed. Is my mobo really not that bad? I honestly figured it was a pos lol, I got it for so cheap when I needed an emergency replacement.

But ok, I'll do that once I get better cooling, since I'm currently using the stock heatsink and fan (my hyper 212 broke a while back). Or is it safe to do it even with stock cooling?

Also will OCing my cpu make it able to handle my wishes? which just as a reminder for the new thread are high/ultra gaming on most if not all games currently and hopefully for the next year (maybe 2? medium would be exceptable) at 1080p

Thoughts on CaseLabs cases?

>>62325779

I would get 29" version for that res

>>62325535
should the b350 carbon have a light to show it is receiving power before I turn it on?

>>62325688
Cute ass on the girl on the right

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So I saw this build with cm storm styker and Corsair H100 should fir or did he modify the case in any way?

If I put an Nvidia GPU and AMD CPU together will the universe implode?

>>62325858
Figuratively everybody here does that though

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>>62325819
>1200W PSU
>Fatal1ty
>soundcard

>>62325870
You sound like you know about builds but can't answer anything

>>62325916
Not him, but high wattage PSUs are useless. Nobody ever uses 1200w. Sound cards are also useless unless you are a professional.

Can someone recommend me a cheap cooler to use for overclocking 1150 socket cpus.

>>62326009

Cryorig H7 or M9i

>>62325781

I wouldn't OC on stock cooler.

>>62325916
soundcards aren't useless, but you should get an external DAC instead if you want/need a better interface

>>62326031
Was looking at that. But then I saw this.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835103064
Higher air flow and fan speed. Im kinda worried if it will fit.

>>62326080

Yeah I figured, could you recommend a cooler for the i5 3750k for OCing? Also would OCing said cpu along with 16gb DDR3 ram and a 1060 (gpu I'm upgrading too) be able to handle most current games on high/ultra and hopefully continue to do so for most games that come out in the next year or two (medium would be acceptable though).

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>>62325815

>tfw put the wrong screw in and now can't take motherboard out of the case
Maybe I'm to dumb too do computers

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Just ordered a 1080ti since my old card broke. Waiting for coffee lake before buying CPUs so I'm going to plug it into my 4790(not k). Would the CPU impose a bottleneck on 1080ti?

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>>62326295
>cpu bottleneck

What are the best places to buy GPUs in Canada? Eyeing the GTX1070, just wondering if is houdl look out for any particular model or if the extra shit like the GAMING Z matters at all.

How are you all today, buildfriends?

>>62326319
been better. been worse. waiting for Polaris GPUs to come down to normal prices is suffering though

>>62326313
>just wondering if is houdl look out for any particular model or if the extra shit like the GAMING Z matters at all
if you get the gayming xd extreme rgb edition it usually just means it has a better cooler or a slightly higher clock
what brand is a personal preference, but good advice would be to check the warranty on the company

>>62326313
Look for temperature reviews

So since the guy who was helping me out last thread seems to have gotten off, I'm going to repost my situation

I'm upgrading, not building from scratch. I'm currently running a i5 3570k with 16 gb DDR3 ram, mobo is the ASRock Z75 pro 3, gtx670. My goal is to be able to play most if not all current games on high/ultra at 1080p and hopefully be able to keep doing it with new games for the next year or two (though medium would be acceptable). I came in thinking I'd get the i5 7600k, the 1050ti, 1060, or maybe 1070 and a mobo that supported both and is decent build quality while being affordable.

Budget is about 800, but hoping to manage to stay in the 600-700 range.

So in the last thread I've learned that the 1060 is likely adequate for what I'm looking for, or at least that the 1070 doesn't seem worth the huge price difference.

I also found out that if I get a new cpu/mobo that I need to get brand new ram too, which sucks, I also was told by several people (but still looking for more definitive answers) that if I OC my current cpu it should be able to meet the things I'm setting out for. Looking for what would be a good cooling system for my cpu as I'm currently using stock.

Also is my mobo ok to run the 1060? I really don't know much about mobo's but I'm worried just because it was a cheap one I bought as a replacement for one that broke. I was told no earlier but just want to be sure.

Any help much appreciated.

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Updating case descriptions. What kind of info would you like to see? Is this good?

Is there any reason to pick B350 over A320 aside from overclocking? I was using potatoes most of my life and never bothered with OC before.

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>>62326469
I'd honestly like the see the HAF replaced. There's a new one coming to replace it, the H500P

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>>62326509

>>62326509
B350 boards also have the ability to support AMD crossfire and often have better features than the A320 boards.
Even if you're not overclocking, I'd look into the B350 boards just for the improved featureset

>>62326455
Just chuck the 1060 into your pcie 3.0 x16 slot

>>62326542

What I'm beginning to consider to do, I just prefer definitive answers, and I keep getting vague ones like this instead of someone saying 'yes your cpu will be run most anything fine for the next year or two' or something lol.

Still baffles me that my pc, which is almost 5 years old, can be brought up to play todays games on ultra for only 300 bucks.

>>62326469
i would add mobo compatibility (atx, micro, whatever) and how many fans you can slap onto the front top and back but is good

Guys, google has failed me.
Say I want to heavily RGB my build, and my motherboard has a built in RGB control software like Asus' Aura, or MSI's Mystic Light.
The motherboard only has 1 RGB header. Are the RGB elements of the fans controllable from the normal 4Pin fan headers, or does it NEED to be connected to the RGB header? I'm so confused right now.

>>62326609
Also, what's a good aftermarket cooler for my cpu? I had a hyper212 but it eventually crapped out on me, so I'm nervous about getting another, it is the best bet (its the most popular)? Or is there a better option?

>>62326650
Cryorig H7

>want to get a good gaming pc
>just end up getting fucking confused by all the retarded naming schemes so i don't know what is good and what is not good

>>62326685
it's generally simple. Higher numbers mean it's better

>>62326685

Budget/desired performance?

>>62326650

>hyper 212 crapped one me

Just get another fan? I'd say get an H7 tho

>>62326694
Tell that to intel and nvidia

>>62326685
tell us your budget, and what games you want to play, and anything else you plan to use it for. Also would be helpful to know if you have anything you want in how it looks. Window? PSU shroud? optical drive?

>>62326694
well now i feel retarded

>>62326698
im in aus, and i don't want to pay more than 1K, and i wouldn't mind being able to play WoW again

>>62326661

Thanks is it good for OC?

>>62326717
I was broke when it happened and had the stock fan so just installed it, worked fine so didn't bother. But yeah someone else suggested the same.

>>62326649
fans can be controlled using the 4pin
rgb strips usually are plugged into the rgb header
this is compatible with asus's aura though http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cooling-rgb-accessories/rgb-led-controller/

>>62326719
Alright.
Intel:
K-series: unlocked for overlclocking
T-series: low power consumption/lower clock speeds
Celeron: entry level basic bitch
Pentium: Same as Celeron until G4560 or better/ In which case, it's a discounted i3
i3: dual core, 4 thread. Good for entry level gaming
i5: 4 core, 4 thread. basic gaming. Completely outclassed by similarly priced AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs
i7: 4 core, 8 thread CPU for maximum FPS when gaming.

nvidia:
First 1 or 2 numbers is the series. So the current line is the 10 series.
The models go up in number to be better.
GT 1030
GTX 1050
GTX 1050 Ti
GTX 1060 3GB
GTX 1060 6GB
GTX 1070
GTX 1080
GTX 1080Ti
GTX Fury X Pascal

>>62326754
The build I'm looking at uses MSI's mystic lighting, and the fans say they're compatible with it (MSI B350 Tomahawk, and Cooler Master Masterfan Pro Air Pressure RGB fans)

>>62326685
Just get a Ryzen 5 1600 and be happy

>>62326782
you might be shit out of luck if you're mixing brands

>>62326727

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HNQyhq

This translates to 1000 Aus according to google. Only thing is no hdd, but you can find those for cheap as fuck on like craigslist/gumtree. The case you can switch out, just a commonly recommended one.

If you can squeeze ~40US i'd grab the R5 1600 though.

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>>62326720
like i said i wouldnt mind playing WoW again, i just dont know what part of these i should upgrade because im retarded when it comes to hardware

>>62326879
Is WOW it? That all you want to play?

>>62326889
i'd like to play ARK and DotA 2 as well

>>62326932
alright. budget? Any opinion on looks?

>>62326944
i don't really care about the look of it, budget-wise i'd like to spend less than $1,000 (AUS money)

what in the hell is up with that image? his girlfreind is nothing special but neither is the other bitch he would be sidegrading at best

>>62326772
>GTX Fury X Pascal
???

>>62326971
the titty xp, not to be confused with the other one

>>62326963
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Chg3Ps

>>62326633
Thanks!

>>62327016
thanks friendo

>>62326609

Going to try one more time, I have am i5 3570k, 16gb ram, ASRock z75 pro3 mobo and getting gtx 1060 gpu. If I buy the Cryorig H7 will I be able to OC my 3570k? Also once OC'ed will my cpu, along with other specs mentioned be able to handle current games (and hopefully the next year or two) on high/ultra (medium acceptable for future games) at 1080p?

Would be amazing if that ends up being the case.

>>62326971
I got the AMD Fury X mixed up with the nvidia Titan X Pascal.
You know what I meant though

>>62327048

Your OC 3570k will be good for gaming for at least 2 years. Some games can take advantage of more cores, like BF1, but that doesn't mean yours is going to do bad. Catch my drift?

If anything were to screw you out of 1080p gaming with that cpu OC it would be the gpu. 1060 will be fine for 1080p if you're unhappy with the performance 1/2 years down the line just drop settings.

Yes H7 will be good for overclocking

Are there any actual differences in performance between $100 full tower and $300 full tower cases or just memes are marketing?

>>62327444
No.

>>62327444

Maybe material and "features", any $100 case worth it's salt though is better value though.

>>62327444
once you get past $150, the point of cases tend to be looks over everything else. Particularly when they get over $250

>>62327444
Anything over 150 is a meme.

Newfag here, last I checked (which was a while ago) there was some Intel in the OP. What happened, AMD real good recently or something?

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>$140 for a used GTX 1060 on Craigslist
>Image of it has the guy pressing it contacts-down into a carpet

>>62327878
Owls are cool

>>62327878

if he has a means of testing it, it'll be alright. esd protection has come a long way.

>>62327864
AMD pushed new products out that performs (arguably) on par with intel counterparts at lower price.

Intel preparing to launch new gen next month in response though

>>62327990
Ah, thanks for the info.

>>62327444
Anything under $150 is poorfag-tier and that's the truth.

>>62322354
If you're so stupid that you think a workstation that retalied at about $3000 new would skimp on something as important as the PSU or refuse to do your own research when buying products then this method is obviously not for you, dipshit

I'm using a Thinkpad with a 500GB SSD as the only storage in it right now, will I run into any problems if I take that SSD and just put it in a desktop I plan on buying if I'm going to run Windows 10 unactivated or do I need to move my files to a different HDD, wipe it and move them back after setting up Windows? From what I've heard you mostly run into problems with the Windows license and things like that if you take a hard drive from one PC and put it in another.

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>yfw you successfully built and upgraded a new system without a hitch

FEELS GOOD MAN

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Got a new GPU but my power supply doesn't have a 8 pin connector.

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>>62328828
Give it a day or two

Suggest me a 1080p IPS monitor

Is Dell better than Asus and Acer? It's more expensive

>>62328856
Don't jinx it, faggot.

>>62328849
Get a molex to 8pin adapter. Otherwise just stop being a poorfag and get an actual psu with real connectors

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>>62329071
Going to grab this SeaSonic SS-620GM2 then.
I also realised that the card only has 1 DVI port so I can't use my second monitor.

>>62328849
just use two 4pin connectors

>>62329190
The PSU only has 2 6pin connectors and the card (rx 580) needs 1 6pin + 1 8pin.
It can probably work fine with just one 8 pin connector, but can it run with only one 6pin?

Is 1440p 120Hz achievable these days or would I be better served going for 1080p if I wanted those higher framerates?

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Just looking for comments on my budget build, just gaming on a single 1080p monitor.

Already have a GPU I'm going to be using with it - XFX Radeon RX 470 RS Triple X 4GB

Should I be able to max out most games comfortably?

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Overkill for a NAS?

>>62329298

Depends on the title, my 1080 gives me 120+ fps on all esports shit like csgo, overwatch, LoL, etc at 1440p. But I can also get it on max settings on older titles like The Evil Within, Bioshock, etc. On new AAA games I can usually get about 100 on like ultra, but depends on the game. You need a 1080ti to consistently push for over 120 on max for 1440p.

>>62329312

At 1080p for sure, maybe like high settings if the game is really demanding or poorly optimized

>coffee lake 6c/12t for $400
>1600 6c/12t for $200
DOA?

>>62329940
>coffee lake 6c/12t for $400
More like misinfo.

>1600 6c/12t for $200
Yeah, misinfo.

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Okay /g/ I haven't bought a new computer in forever so I'm kinda out of the loop on newer hardware so any help would be appreciated. Budget is ~$1k. Won't really be playing a lot of games as evident from the GPU but still wanted to know if there are any improvements to be made since $1k is a bit of a money after all so I want the best possible for that money.

>CPU
Going past 1600 for Ryzen seems to give diminishing return in performance compared to the cost and OP seems to agree with me.

>CPU Cooler
Necessary or is stock good enough? Not really going to do any hardcore overclocking.

>Thermal Compound
Just got some cheap one guess it'll do.

>Motherboard
Seems good?

>Memory
Could probably do with 8 GB but might as well fall for the meme. 3200 MHz isn't much more expensive compared to lower clock speeds so might as well get it since I heard Ryzen benefits from higher RAM clock speed and it's supported by motherboard.

>Storage
My current installation of Arch is ~150 GB so a 250 GB SSD should be good enough and then 1 TB HDD for storing files.

>GPU
Maybe not the best performance I can get for the money but from what I heard AMD cards work better with the open source driver on Linux and I won't really be playing the latest games at max or mining cryptocurrency.

>Case
Kinda clueless about cases so just got something cheap, seems to have good reviews.

>PSU
Full modular means no cables but I assume the components include the required cables? Maybe a stupid question but last PSU I bought had cables attached.

Anything else? Extra fans (room for two more in case)?

>>62330019
intel on suicide watch

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I'm looking for a new desk for my computer build. A good desk is as important as a new computer. What are some good desks?
Needs to have
-decent width
-bamboo/minimalist palette
-ideally drawers
-not cost a million dollars
-available in aussieland

>>62330148
check IKEA

>>62330047
you don't need thermal paste, the stock cooler for r5 1600 comes with one pre-applied.
get seagate or toshiba HDD.
that gpu is seriously overpriced, considering that a ~$140 gtx 1050ti outperforms it (maybe use nvidia's proprietary drivers?). few days ago there were some rx 580 4gb in stock for ~$260 but i think that's gone now. if you don't play games you could even get rx 560.
yes the psu includes all the cables you need. it's VERY IMPORTANT that you DO NOT reuse any cables from your previous build if you don't want to fry your pc.

>>62329312
>paying for botnet

My 7700k only asks 1.104v during stress tests at 4.6ghz according to HWINFO. Do I have some sort of golden chip or something? Idle it's at 1.176v right now. Still testing OCs so haven't tried 4.9 or 5ghz yet.

Vcore set to 1.200v at the moment, still lowering it every now and then to try what the least vcore I can put is. I'll probably hit the limit soon. My BIOS sucks ass so don't ask me about CLL PLL or whatever.

>PSU shrouds

>>62327048
Literally in your shoes. I bought the 1060 6GB (don't go 3GB) for my i5-3570k (I have some Noctua fan, but I get 60° average temps).

Literally running Warframe in maximum settings. Running Witcher 3 in Ultra (hairworks off) and have 0 lag, and above 60 FPS.

YES. It will work just fine. Only for 1080p though. Anything higher will need a new CPU and probably monitor.

>>62325688

I'm looking to build a NAS for home use to store movies and shit. I don't need anything fancy just something that works and keeps my data safe. Will probably use FreeNAS or NAS4free. What hardware should I be looking at?

>>62327550
This guy is an idiot. Anything above $150 is a waste. Most tower cases, especially full-tower are never seen (too big to put on a table). Prioritize features, color and only AFTER that you look for smaller aesthetics (that's where the extra money comes in).

>>62329366
Do you know what NAS means?

>>62331104
>FreeNAS
With ZFS? 4 RAM slots, that's for sure. You'll be using them. You'll want ECC if you can get it.
Of course, Supermicro boards are your go-to, though some "consumer" boards offer server chipsets as well.
Goes without saying you want more SATA, not fewer. Depending on what drives you'll put in.
If you won't be doing Plex and tinkering you can probably cheap out on the CPU.

This isn't the best place to ask these questions. There are lots of guides online. Most people here only know how to build gaming rigs, so you should ignore them.

>>62331249
>4 ram slots
My bad. I'm tired You don't need 4. You need however many you want. And for ZFS you'll be needing them.

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>>62330369
thanks frend

>>62331115
It really feels excessive even over $100
I mean, I love the shit out of my Silent Base 800 so far, but the $140 it cost is more than I spent on my previous two cases combined

>i5-7600K (240 €)
>R5 1600X (235 €)

Which one should I buy ?

>>62331859
RYZEN
Y
Z
E
N

>>62331859
1600x

>>62331859
the 1600 should be almost as good as the 1600X, save a little more money

>>62331916
If he's already got a good cooler and plans to OC, he might as well get the 1600x

>>62331859
Wait a month for Coffee Lake and check the reviews for Ryzen CPUs.

From anandtech
>I have $250, What Should I Get – the Core i5 7600/7600K or the Ryzen 5 1600X?
>On performance, for anyone wanting to do intense CPU work, the Ryzen gets a nod here. Twelve threads are hard to miss at this price point. For more punchy work, you need a high frequency i5 to take advantage of the IPC differences that Intel has.
>For gaming, our DX12 titles show a plus for AMD in any CPU limited scenario, such as Civilization or Rise of the Tomb Raider in certain scenes. For e-Sports, and most games based on DX9 or DX11, the Intel CPU is still a win here.

Intel if you don't need multithreading.
Which is what exactly, Blender? Nobody renders on the CPU.
x264/x265 encoding? Sure, okay.
And that's pretty much it.

What time of the year is best for buying a new pc?
Assuming I buy parts that have not been just released.

I'd think middle of summer as some sellers might lower prices to not completely fall into the summer hole.

>>62331959
I'd say if you're building for gaming, it depends on when new graphics cards come out. While they may not be advancing as quickly as in the past, the differences between generations still tend to be very significant, so you probably wouldn't want to buy something when it's close to being replaced by a faster card at the same price point. If you want to get the most out of it, you should probably buy close to release, but after a month or 2 when the prices are somewhat settled, custom-cooled models are available and any issues will have made themselves known.

>>62331959
You assume getting it all at once instead of over a stretch of time.

I got drunk and bought a 1080 Ti for $680, did I fuck up /pcbg/?

>>62332205
Wtf, is it used or reference or something?

>>62332299
Used, so I'd guess it's mined the fuck out
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KgdqtJ

Not many options for large screens i find.

Looking for a top end gaming pc, dont mind spending a little extra

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is there any difference in performance between the sapphire rx 580 nitro+ 4gb and the 8gb models? i finally was able to buy one after waiting for 3 months, but it's the 4gb version since it was the only thing they had in stock. will be using 1080p only.

>>62332401
It's the exact same card just with half the memory and 4GB should be perfectly fine for 1080p gaming.

>>62325819
corsair h100 definitely fits, because i have the same case and it has a h115 in it which is a 280mm radiator. h100 is just 240mm radiator

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>first time doing a full PC build
>going on hour three
Never doing this again. Cable management is going to look like ass but I don't even care I want this over with.

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How bad are these? I can't get better timings on Ryzen 1600 ...

Just a standard build. not really gaming past oldschool stuff. second ethernet is for a hub/ switch for lan
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8j2rKZ

>>62332517
thanks familia

>>62325976
I'm still glad i've had the opportunity to get a 1200W PSU for 50eu a few years back, this shit's cash. Even though i'm running a RX470 and a 1600X.

>watching sleeper pc videos
>all of them are just garbage rigs with garbage components
kinda defeats the point... where can i see some good sleeper builds?

>>62333016
Get a G4560.
If you demand a stronger integrated GPU than an HD 630, go AM4 and get Bristol Ridge. FM2 is totally dead.
You don't need 16GB of RAM.
You don't need a specialized cooler for what you'll be doing.
Mini ITX is more expensive than mATX. Consider whether you actually need it.

>>62333159
My bad, go for a G4600. 4560 only has HD 610.

>>62333159
is bristol ridge even out yet? youre right with the ram, 8 is probs enough. i dont mind paying a little more for mitx since having that smaller form factor is quite nice. the cooler was more to make sure i can keep it as quiet as possible since its small and all.

>>62333214

Bristol Ridge is released recently to the consumer market, not sure if is out in Australia yet though

>>62333214
>is bristol ridge even out yet?
It was just released.
To be clear, I'm understanding "old school" games to mean games from around 2006 and before.
If you mean games from after that, AMD's iGPU will start choking just like Intel, and you'd be better off with a discrete solution.

>>62333248
its weird to clarify since now that i think about it even games like bioshock are 14 years old.

>>62333268
No. Bioshock is 2007.
Anyway, if you don't have Bristol Ridge in Australia and demand iGPU, you'll have to settle for G4600.

>>62332696
What's so bad about it? I've been annoyed myself when shit doesn't quite work out in terms of having enough space or not having easy access to something, but in the end I'd rather do it myself to make sure everything is proper and as I want it to be.

Cable management in the practical sense isn't as much about looking pretty as it is about not obviously restricting airflow and about the ease of practical maintenance and upgrade. You don't want to need to unplug fucking everything because it's a messy, tangled up ball of cables whenever you want to add another HDD or upgrade your graphics card, that shit is just annoying as fuck.

>>62333109
peak psu efficiency starts at around 50% load, that's what you should be aiming for.
i.e. your system at full load will take around 350W, go for a 700W psu. that way you'll have high power efficiency when it matters and good headroom for cap aging, overclocking, etc.
1200W for a 1600X/RX470 build is a waste of power.

>>62333329
I think he means that he's set for life with that.
Make a few upgrades to use a shit ton of power and he's right.

>>62333329
>that's what you should be aiming for.
In a perfect world, maybe.
The efficiency curve doesn't justify spending the extra money if the price difference is anything meaningful. By the time you make your money back on the small efficiency bump, the PSU is long dead, and the PC trashed.

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What way should i upgrade my system? Im not too sure on what gpu to get based on my build or if I even need a new motherboard

https://youtu.be/mDUndPf1IrU

Some benchmarks of the AM4 Athlon X4 950 compared to the G4560

TL;DR The Athlon wins in some games and loses in some games while costing $30 less than the G4560 and having a much better upgrade path

>>62333377
The G4560 seemed to do generally better in games tested.
It also comes with an iGPU, which can be important depending on what you do.

I'd wait to see more comprehensive reviews of Bristol Ridge parts before passing real judgement. But it's certainly going to be interesting to see where they lie, particularly the APUs.

I need some help finishing this up.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rp7XtJ

>>62333377
I need a cooler. Thoughts on Cooler Master Hyper TX3. Its $20.
Or would shelling out another 10 for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO be worth it. Didnt want to spend more than $20 on a cooler though but if it helps OCing then maybe.

>>62333541
Didnt mean to link

>>62333497
Here you go
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/yX8KZL

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MZFX8K
Rate my shit.

>>62333541
I use a cooler master t4 and my temps are under 50c with no OCing. I have a 6600k it's slightly over 20 at 24 dollary doos but it's performance is very good.

>>62333576
I would get an r7 1700 but it looks like you just want pure gayming performance so I would so it looks fine

Hello /pcbg/
In my work they need to put together a couple of PCs for CAD/CNC/Mastercam and 3D scanning.
What would you recommend?
I have a personal gaming rig and such and have experience with building computers, just not for this application.

I'm thinking of going Ryzen Pro, with the 1700X PRO, because of higher stock frequencies.
Are there any good AM4 ECC supported MoBos?
And what GPU should we get? Are Quadro worth it? Wouldn't we be better off with something like a GTX1060-70? CUDA is recommended for the software we're using.

>>62333610
>>62333497
Fuck I meant this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G22rKZ

Upgrading cpu. Whats the cheapest mobo/cpu combo for overclock.

>>62333576
>Full Tower
Dumb imo but it's your machine. You wouldn't fill a mid-tower, so why go bigger? It's not giving you anything.

>>62333576
>buying 7700k when 8700k is less than a month away
nice meme

>>62333626
shitty mobo
get 850 evo for $2 more

Hi
Iv just finished building my pc, I reused my hdd Because It already had windows installed which I thought would save me a bit of money, but now I think I need to do a fresh install of windows as once the system moves from the bios screen to the windows start up my keyboard loses power. Does this sound right guys iv tried it in all the USB slots and have tried multiple keyboards

>>62333626
I would not get the 212EVO, either stick to the srock one(which can get you to 3.7-3.8) or drop the money on a higher end one.

I wouks go for mATX, no reason to get a hunungus tower
And what the fuck s that SSD? Check reviews before purchasing.

>>62333698
try a PS/2 keyboard if you have one. search for usb drivers for your mobo.

>>62333697
It's not my mobo.
It's his
>>62333497

>>62333702
The SSD is fine. Inform yourself.

>>62333730
Fuck, didn't notice the 850 EVO sitting a couple bucks away.
The SL308 is good. But the EVO is just better.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam

>>62333576
No, don't buy Z270/7700K when Z370/8700K are like a month away.

>>62333773
Fuck, I can only imagine the heat problems the 8700K will have

Dammn

>>62333773
I'm getting it for tax revenue, anyways

>>62333730
it's a good ssd, but as the other anon said there's no reason to not get 850 evo when it's 2 more AND has 5 years of warranty, whereas sl308 has only 3 years

The only thing I regret about my NZXT S340 is how the case is 99% of the weight

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Am I the only one that gets super nervous when installing ram fearing I would break the motherboard with too much pushing force?

>>62333785
Should be better than Skylake-X at least, since these won't have the same cache and bus changes and a lower TDP.

>>62333786
That's irrelevant, it's still a bad decision. You're going to pay i7 money for what's essentially a Coffee Lake i3. You could get more cores, or pay less for the same shit, it's a stupid decision even if you found the money on your doorstep.

>>62333885
No. I'm surprised my mobo survived be plugging in the 20+4 power connector though.

Twice, since tested out of case.

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I've never head a real build. A build to be proud of. A "monster" of a PC. I'm pretty much a noob and my knowledge is limited.
And I don't really have money for a beast, but I do have for the following:

Mainboard GIGABYTE GA-Z270P-D3
CPU Intel i7-7700K
GPU EVGA GTX 1080
RAM Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3000Mhz CL15*
Power supply EVGA 600W
Total cost ~$1500

1. What should I look for in a case? How do I pick a good case?
2. Should I wait for intel 8th gen? Is it a meme? Would it fit in my budget?
3. Would a Ryzen 7 1700 be better? I heard it gave lots of SIGSEGV on Linux. Is it true? I need the pc for work, is it that bad?

*couldn't find 2400Mhz on less than CL15, though fuck it, might as well go with 3000Mhz at almost the same price as a 2400Mhz CL12

>>62333923
What "work" is it for?

>>62333895
coffee lake i3 won't have 7700k performance, don't spread lies

>>62333923
If it's for gaymen then wait for the i7-8700k, same with the Mobo, I recommend the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz, they're low profile.
And go for 750W.
Also if you gonna play at 1440p@144hz or 4K@60fps get the 1080 Ti.
Get a SSD, I would recommend the 960 EVO as it is an overkill right now.
Oh, and if you're getting the 1080 Ti get an IPS monitor.

Why are used GPUs on Amazon so god damn expensive?

A 750ti is like $130

>>62333976
Well, not GPU intensive work at all but mostly simultaneously holding up a
1. Shit java server
2. Shit nodjes server
3. Shit database server
4. A 4th shitty server
All strictly for developing purposes. I could just ge more RAM and it'd work fine, but I want to upgrade anyway (have a 2nd gen i3 and integrated graphics).

I want the 1080 for gaymes. I'm tired of not being able to play anything/playing dota2 in lower res and I'm planning on 1080@144hz (possible 1440p@144hz but I'm not aiming for that currently). Also, spending less time on training meme CNNs.

>>62334045
Thanks, but it's getting too expensive for my budget. I could sacrifice the 144hz and just go for 1080@60hz and get a 1060. Would it be worth it to wait for the 8700k and mb in that case?
I already have a decent SSD, I'll upgrade it later. That's why it's not mentioned.

>>62325688
>no 7700k
>fastest gayming CPU
>beats Poozen EVERY SINGLE time
>nobody at /pcbg/ truly knows what frametimes are and are just spouting memes
Plebbit is superior, at least they call out Poozen shilling.

>>62333981
They're going to be pretty damn close if they can OC to similar clocks, especially if some minor IPC improvement is present too, especially in current games where HT isn't always significant at all. In any case he could buy a 6C i5 which WILL very likely be all-out faster than a 7700k and will also cost less. Buying Kaby a month before it becomes obsolete on a dead platform is retarded.

>>62334098
Hell yes, wait for the 8700k.
Also, go for a 1080 only for 1080p@144hz on last games. If you wanna go for 1440p@144hz you need to go for the 1080 Ti unless you wanna drop some settings.
>>62334104
8700k is coming out soon so that's why I didn't put it.

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These seem like good builds to me, can anyone vouch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1X0Rf1j6Ak

>Vega 64 or 1080?
And lets add the cost of monitor. 300usd for a gysnc really tickles my anus

>>62334172
>g4560
Into the trash it goes.
>same shitty slow ram across the $750 and $1000 price points

>>62334216
1080 would generally be the better choice but FreeSync is cheaper. Take your pick.

What's the best generic 1080Ti build at 2000-2300$ lads?
Can I cram in watercooling at this budget?
Would I need SLI for dual monitor set-up?
Are MSI GPU's and mobos the best?

>>62334279
>Would I need SLI for dual monitor set-up?
No. I take it you want to play games on 1 monitor and just have 2 for other uses, right?

I have Radeon HD 7850 as GPU currently. Will I get performance boost if I buy GeForce 1050 Ti? Should I wait for Volta?

>>62334279
>What's the best generic 1080Ti build at 2000-2300$ lads?
Wait for Coffee Lake or better yet tell us what you're using your computer for.
>Can I cram in watercooling at this budget?
Nope. Considering your following questions you'd be too retarded to figure it out anyway.
>Would I need SLI for dual monitor set-up?
Yes Anon, the GPUs you buy definitely only have one display output. It isn't like one GPUs has driven multiple displays ever over the course of history you fucking retard.
>Are MSI GPU's and mobos the best?
Depends from product to product, look at reviews and forums.

>>62334172
I'd do a 120GB SSD for boot and 1TB hard drive for everything else. Other than that, yeah those look like decent setups

>>62334368
About that video, in the $750 range he blows $150 on a 500GB NVME SSD

Is that really worth it? How much would a regular SSD be?

>>62334334
Yeah from hd 5850 moved to 1050 2gb
i can now play new titles but on low

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>>62334310
>No. I take it you want to play games on 1 monitor and just have 2 for other uses, right?
yes
thanks guy
>>62334340
>Wait for Coffee Lake or better yet tell us what you're using your computer for.
gayming n sheit

>Nope. Considering your following questions you'd be too retarded to figure it out anyway
no bully

>Yes Anon, the GPUs you buy definitely only have one display output. It isn't like one GPUs has driven multiple displays ever over the course of history you fucking retard
im planning to play on only one

I thought /pcbg/ was retard-friendly ;-;

>>62334409
That's an M.2 SATA SSD, not NVMe. The cheapest 500GB SSDs are around $150 whether they're a 2.5" drive or SATA M.2.

pro tip: NVMe makes no real-world difference. Boot times and load times are identical or VERY marginally faster (literally milliseconds of difference in a 15 second boot).

I have a 1TB M.2 SSD and I think it's 100% worth it. So much cleaner and easier to install than a 2.5"/3.5" drive; you just stick it in the motherboard like you would RAM.

is getting a dead/broken pc part common? first time building.

>>62334172
Genuinely surprised to see he only has ~6k subs, that was a well put together video

>>62334495
Much like anything else which you buy new, from a reputable retailer and a good brand, getting something broken is very uncommon.

>>62334495
Very uncommon but definitely possible. I've been 6 or 7 computers in my life and never had a DOA part, but I did fry a motherboard once because of static.

Shit happens, see if you can exchange for a new one first. If you can't, you'll have to RMA it, which just takes a bit longer (a few weeks vs a few days to ship a return to Newegg or whoever).

>had an i5 3330 + Z77.
>found an i7 3770k for 80 bucks without cooler.

Worth it?

>>62334511
yeah ordered most of my parts through Amazon with Amazon bring the seller so I should be good on that end.
>>62334524
best way to avoid frying the mobo with static?

>>62334620
Grounding yourself >:(

>>62334108
>Buying Kaby a month before it becomes obsolete on a dead platform is retarded.
it truly is. still coffee lake will be overpriced ~1 month after release and r5 1600 will still be better value

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y42rKZ
Thoughts? My last AMD processor sucked so I'm not getting another one.

>>62334651
>i5
into the trash

>>62334651
It doesn't matter if your last AMD processor sucked. What matters is the model.
Get the R5 1600. It is great for the money and has been proven worth the hype

>>62334620
>best way to avoid frying the mobo with static?

Just always touch the case so you're at the same voltage potential as your parts. Same voltage -> no static sparks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-PLUS-w-Mounting-Brackets/142488687487
Should I buy now.

>>62331115
This guy is an idiot.
$150 is the average price of most company's flagship cases.

>>62334678
no. 212 evo, which is better, costs $25 after rebate https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

>>62334651
Guess your last AMD processor wasn't Ryzen.

>>62334651
Looks fine. Ignore the shills, Ryzen only has Sandy Bridge IPC.

>>62334734
bait

>>62334651
CPU is okay. Same price as meme 1600 ryzen. Performs better. And is unlocked.

I'd wait for Coffee Lake though in October, just to see if the prices drops or something.

>>62334709
>rebate
Every review between the evo and plus say the difference is negligible.

>>62334752
>>62334734
samefag

>>62334740
Truth. 4GHz r7 1700 has identical single thread to a 4GHz 2500k.

>>62334651
>intel because of bias
Hey dipshit. Every problem AMD's FX chips had can now be applied to Intel's chips, particularly heat problems. Meanwhile, the new AMD Ryzen chips run really fucking cool. There's actually a 20° offset in temperature readings so people who switched from Intel chips will see a familiar number.

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>>62334761
Retard.

>>62334786
Yeah you care about temps and wattage and what not, but maybe the guy cares about performance above all?

>>62334755
forgot the $9 shipping.
>>62334678
What are the chances that this ships with everything I need. I have so artic silver left.

>>62334786
That's why you're supposed to delid retard. It's fucking easy and gives you lower temps than Poozen while being faster.

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>>62334800
you mean the multi-threaded performance where the intel chips get destroyed? Or the gaming performance where you'd never notice a difference if you didn't have a frame counter

>>62334808
>needing to delid to see decent temps
Intel is trash

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>midday in usa
>delusional intel fanboys start shitposting
pottery

>>62334791
>screenshot evidence
the joke keeps writing itself

>>62334839
>he's a brainlet incapable of a little DIY project
I bet you've never built anything in your life besides a computer.

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>>62334845
it's funny how delusional they are

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>>62334752
>CPU is okay.
no it's not. and it's already on a dead platform.
>Same price as meme 1600 ryzen.
intel fan can't do math, how surprising. it costs $128 more for cpu+cooler+mobo than ryzen.

>>62334839
>you mean the multi-threaded performance where the intel chips get destroyed? Or the gaming performance where you'd never notice a difference if you didn't have a frame counter
I mean the performance which doesn't involve unrealistic benchmarks like cinebench or some other heavily threaded shit. Basicly, just the normal everyday things which matter.

Ryzen is perfect if you absolutely need more than 4 cores for cheap. Otherwise Intel is still a perfectly valid choice for gaming and productivity tasks. This will never change.
The only chance for AMD to really btfo Intel is Zen 2.

>>62334845
>hurr not reel evidence here's a funny picture XDDD
>haha let's commence circlejerking guiz!
Every fucking time. You need to go >>>/b/ack.

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>twice the price
>12 more fps (only in 1080p)
>uses more power, generates more heat
>dead platform
>loses in productivity / multitasking
so this is the power of intel... woah...

>>62334678
Well theres
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-EVO-CPU-Cooler-with-120mm-PWM-Fan-/162667097148
For 22. Has everything needed in pic. But its only 1 image. Should I be worried its damaged.

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I'm in the market for a 4k monitor, I should be looking for one with HDR10+/Dolby Vision right? Any suggestions?

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>>62334854
You're missing the point. You shouldn't NEED to delid a chip to see reasonable temps. It's Intel's fault for using thermal paste between the die and the heat-spreader instead of soldering the die to the heat-spreader like AMD does.
>brainlet incapable of a little DIY project.
I've rebuilt car engines. delidding doesn't scare me. A car engine is worth more than a CPU.

>>62334948
why the fuck won't you just buy new? it's like $3 more.

>>62334942
>loses in productivity / multitasking
It only loses in multithreaded benchmarks.
It's faster everywhere else.

The only realistic thing going for the moar cores meme is video encoding.

>>62334942
Yeah keep cherrypicking your charts. There is fucking nothing here saying what the games are. For all we know they're more GPU dependant you fucking shill.

Is there a better gpu than this for about the same price? I won't be playing anything that's super graphics heavy, but I don't want to have to play everything on ultra low settings either

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/F6fmP6/msi-radeon-rx-570-4gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-570-armor-4g-oc

>>62334981
>1080p
>GPU dependent
pick one.

>>62334964
>moving the goalpost
God damn AMD needs to train you guys better.

Is falcon list still up? Or whatever that tripfags name was?

>>62334970
because its not $3 more. Even with rebate theres $9 shipping.

>>62334998
>what is Cities: Skylines
>what is Ashes of the Singularity

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>>62334981
>30 games average
>cherrypicking
this has to be a bait, you cannot possibly be THIS retarded.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1450-core-i7-vs-ryzen-5-hexa-core/

>>62335021
Those are both CPU workouts and CPU dependent. Not GPU dependent.

>>62334964
You have less to lose for rebuilding a car engine.
If you have to rebuild a car engine youre already sol and your back is against the wall. Cost about the to buy a used engine. Dont know what you guys were talking about.

>>62335004
I didn't move the goalpost. delidding is a meme to fix a problem that should never have existed in the first place

I'm waiting for coffee lake to build a new pc. Should I also wait for a new line of nvidia gpu's?

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>>62335050
depends on the engine in question.
And sometimes rebuilding an engine has nothing to do with a problem. Sometimes you just want more power.

>>62335074
sure, if you want to wait another 7months+

>>62335038
They should compare the R5 to i5 or even i3.
Games don't care about muh cores.

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>>62335108
>Games don't care about muh cores.
it's not 2012 anymore you retard

So I got this Asrock AB350M Pro4 motherboard and It doesnt let you control CHA_FAN2 speed and fan runs at 1200RPM. Its not loud, but its loudest part of the system, so I was thinking that if I buy another identical fan and connect them to series so both would run at 600 RPM.
Does it even work like that? Anyone done this? Cant find much info about it.

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Are they as bad as /g/ claims?

>>62335162
Wut

>>62332342
>i9
>buying windows
>watermeme

>>62335167
no

>>62335167
They're good, but it's just that Asus is better.

is this worth it for 140 dollars?
Lenovo ThinkCentra Edge72
i7-3770S @ 3.10GHz
8GB ddr3 ram(2x4GB)
1TB HDD
Geforce 210
for Light gaming can always upgrade GPU and put a ssd later

>>62335140
absolute retard

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>>62335167
No, I love MSI!

>>62335075
Maximum understeer

>>62335193
GPU sucks but that's dope for $100.

>>62335193
Goona need a psu also likely if prebuilt

So I assembled my first pc and all the cables seem to be plugged in correctly, but when I go to plug it in to the wall and turn it on nothing at all turns on. I think it might be the power supply but I have no idea how to fix this, does it need to be 'jump started' or something? Is this common, anyone know what to do?

>>62335193
It's pretty ass, but if you don't have a PC, it's ok for the price. I'd rather save my money for a real build though

>>62335229
even for a 1050 or 1050TI?

>>62335235
Did you put the connect the power button to the header on the mobo?

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>>62335235
check the psu switch

>>62335235
Is the PSU turned on?
Are the front IO plugged in correctly?
What Mobo & PSU do you have?
Have you tried jumping your motherboard?

>>62335245
its for my kid brother that wants to play minecraft

Hey /g/, there's the build I'd think to go with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dtYWkT
Is there something to change or improve on? Note, I already have the GPU, it's only a placeholder

>>62335290
Java or Windows Store edition?

>>62335300
What's your budget, and what are you using it for?

>>62335260
Some prebuilt come with a 300w psu and aren't designed to handle higher amp output. So it is possible yes

>>62335180
No speed control for intake fan.
Runs always full speed (12V?)
Connect another fan in series so both get 6V
Both fans run at half speed for same air intake and less noice.
Does it work like that?

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>>62334854
>risk destroying a $1000 CPU
>just so you can correct a mistake Intel deliberately made

Holy shit Intel fanboys are literally the Blacked cuckolds of computing

>>62335269
I did senpai
>>62335265
I believe I did, there was a section on the lower corner of the motherboard for the power and reset cables to be plugged into
>>62335282
How do you jump a motherboard?

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>>62334958
Are there even any HDR PC monitors out yet? I thought they weren't being released until 2018.

>>62335350
He means taking a flathead screw driver and connecting the two pins that the pwr switch normally connects to.

It'll start the pc up without a case.

>>62335306
not sure. Its been years since i played minecraft.
From what i can see w10 dont support mods. So gonna be java. He only played minecraft on his ipad so far

>>62335350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuPZlliGqBw

>>62335355
Dell has some, so does LG but I don't think they have HDR10+/Dolby Vision support.

>>62334808
>encouraging CPU circumcision

Stupid question here.
My case comes with a front fan, my mobo supports 2 fans.
Where should I put the second fan. On the back going out, or on the side going in.

>>62335317
Gaming mostly, nothing professional. I don't have a budget set yet maybe 700-800 euros, but ofc I would like it to be on the lower side. Especially since I'm from Lithuania, and the prices here are considerably higher than US.

>>62335321
No...

>>62335398
Could also get it a bit higher, if it gives major improvement

does anyone have any idea how long it takes for Cryorig to ship AM4 brackets? and is the process easy?

>>62335162
My CPU fan runs at 3500 RPM during summer

>>62335406
Why? It uses DC voltage to control 3 pin fans anyways. Current wont go up because fans are connected to series not paraller.

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>>62335162
ASRock's fan sensing (detecting 3 pin voltage control vs 4 pin pwm) can be a bit wonky. Not a meme, have you tried restarting your computer? My ASRock B250M Pro4 didn't properly detect the 3 pin fans in my case on first boot.

Also you may be able to manually switch between voltage control and PWM control in BIOS. Check your motherboard's manual or just poke around in UEFI or the FANTastic Utility (or whatever it's called).

Regarding connecting multiple fans in series: you'd have to solder or crimp wires together, which would be a pain in the ass. Worst case scenario, you could just get a fan controller than fits in a PCIe bracket like this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4RE5VN4057&cm_re=fan_controller-_-376-001Y-00001-_-Product

>>62335197
Those are some of the ugliest products I have ever seen in my life. Good fucking lord. Look at that case. But anyway >>62335167 no, MSI is fine. I've used their products even back to when they still called themselves "Microstar" 10+ years ago.

>>62335377
Neat. Wish it wasn't $1000 for one, because I really want to see how HDR looks. It sounds like it'd be an awesome experience.

>>62335391
kek

>>62335481
Already replied to you at the top of this post, but that anon is wrong. It will work.

It's just going to be a pain in the ass since you'll have to strip the wires or pull them out of the 3 pin header, solder or crimp them together, then get everything connected back to a 3 pin header.

>>62335300
Looks good.

>>62335372
iPad is probably pocket

The W10 version is a completely different game under the hood and requires less power behind it, but yes it lacks mods.

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So I'm doing my first ever build and can't seem to fit my gpu into my motherboard (a tomahawk b350, if that matters). I feel like that little plastic biit with the down arrow is getting in the way, but the manual doesn't mention it so I wouldn't think that I should remove it. Am I supposed to take it off, or do I need to just keep trying to fit it in?

>>62335555
kys

>>62335555
Yes. remove it. It's a guard to protect the contacts during shipping.

>>62335555
NIgga you stupid as shit

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>1050ti 30-40% more expensive than the 1050
>only 15% more performance

>rx570/580 out of stock or massively overpriced

>rx560/550 shit

>1060 with only 3gb

i feel so bad for you low end fags

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>>62335555
That black plastic thing is a protector they put on cards for shipping. It should slide right off and then the card will fit.

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>PC didn't arrive friday and now I will have to wait until monday

>>62335579
>>62335609
Oh, thank you.
>>62335566
>>62335583
I've never handled electronic before pls no bully

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>>62335609
>>62335555
Also anon you better not be trolling because I feel good about helping someone.

>>62335610
UPS delivers on saturdays, mang

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>>62335610
>my 1050 is out for delivery today
>know usps usually delivers to me last on their route
>8 more hours of anxiety

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>>62335518
In this picture it says that our motherboards wont support CHA_FAN2 control.
CHA_FAN1 works fine for me and runs quiet. But I think it didint run at all at one point.
I dont mind soldering connectors myself. Just wondering why nobody has done it. There might be problems with motherboard sensing wrong speeds?

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Thanks /pcbg/, all the parts of my new PC should be arriving by the end of September

>>62335547
probably dont matter. It can handle both. Hope i can get my parents to shill in abit for a monitor

>>62335652
anon why did you get a regular 1050

>>62335683
>doesn't support speed control on one of the headers
Fucking why? That's retarded.

Anyway, the reason nobody's done it is because it's a pain. That fan controller I linked is like $8, I'm sure you can find another even cheaper than that.

If you really want to do your own connections though, that's perfectly alright. You'll only be able to connect one of the fan's RPM wires (I think it's usually the yellow one) if you want the motherboard to read its speed, but they should both be spinning at nearly the same speed anyway, assuming it's the same model of fan.

>>62335718
motherfucker do you live in zimbabwe or some shit?

>>62335652
>tfw bitch ass USPS stopped operations for Irma in my area
Fuck Florida, I hope this state gets wiped out

>>62335718
>delivery taking more than 5 days
do you live on an island

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>>62335765
im on 768p and I wanted to use the ~40 I saved from downgrading to pickup a used i5-2400 to replace my g630

did i do bad?

>>62335374
>>62335361
That didn't seem to work... What do

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>>62335718
Are you literally me

>>62335830
you don't have it plugged into one of those sockets that are controlled by a switch by the room's light controls, did you?

>>62335827
Instead of all these shitty incremental upgrades, you should honestly just be saving for a whole new rig instead adding fancier heaters to your toaster

>>62335827
Not that guy but fellow 1050 here (had a Ti reserved on backorder for $140 at the time)

It benches higher on average than Tis in my system, I only think the bottleneck I will hit is the 2GB of RAM instead of 4.

Similarly saved about $45. Not a full on PC gamer yet and up to compromise coming from my previous GT 630.

>>62335866
thanks anon that gives me some piece of mind
im coming from a 6670

>>62335860
you're right of course but i want to get another year outta this system if i can

I have an mITX build I cobbled together out of spare parts and like $35. I was thinking of getting a cheap SSD and making this my dedicated streaming and shit posting machine. Specs are
>AMD AM1 Sempron 3850 1.2ghz quad core
>2x2GB ddr3-1600
>Powered by a Silverstone SFX 300w

Was wondering if it worth the $50 for an SSD. Do you think that my CPU can handle streaming 1080p content?

>>62335944
1050 guy here.
Mine scores around 6.4k. I really don't understand it, are people benching on toasters to tank the averages?

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=3596&cmp%5B%5D=3595

>>62335979
ssd is always worth it

>>62336008
Not that guy, but what's the best way to utilize an ssd? Purely for save files?

>>62336032
OS and programs.

>>62336052
Clearly I got them the wrong way around. Thanks amigo.

>>62335765
>Fucking why? That's retarded.
Yes.
Thanks for help.

>>62336068
Anything that requires load times. While files such as movies and documents will open faster, an SSD should be used for games or program .exes.

>>62336100
As long as games don't try to hide loading by loading a cinematic cutscene in its place.

I guess you would load into loading faster.

>>62336129
Yea. Certain games like to hide the actual loading behind a cut scene. Call of duty comes to mind. Even still, a SATA based SSD still has much better load times than a regular spinning disk.

>>62336100
So I'm best off just using the ssd for games and programs and using the hdd for documents and saves and such?

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>>62325688

>>62335854
Wat no, I honestly think it was the power supply, I just jumped it with a paperclip and the fan that it was plugged into turned on, so I think everything should be fine now

are ultra wide monitor a meme or are there more game supporting it?

what's a good big PC forum, where they keep monthly updates on PC builds in numerous cost ranges?

They usually put a lot of time into that and make sure everything is compatible, but I don't visit those forums any other time.

>>62336213
Get an SSD.

>>62336213
Budget? Purpose?

>>62336213
That 1050 Ti is a bottleneck desu

>wiki is still down

>>62336213
change mobo
get faster ram in dual channel
get an ssd

>>62336415
$1000 maybe a little above, gaming / video/picture editing. I need to be able to do editing for work but I also want to be able to play some games and my current rig is really underpowered.

>>62336473
No PC case?

>>62336473
That build is really bad for 1000$. Here.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84yxwV

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>>62336591
>Fractal Design Meshify C
What in shits is this?