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If you want help:
>Assemble parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - If you need multithreading
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use, not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
>Good fucking luck even getting a VEGA right now

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
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INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113446
Ryzen 3 1200 on sale for $100 with promo code EMCRKRJ22
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>i3 coffee lake is faster than i7 kabylake
did intel took the ryzen pill?
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>>62314937
it's not
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How do I get a monitor with 1 ms response time and 144 Hz that doesn't have trash colors?
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>>62314964
by paying big bucks
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>>62314964
you pay all of the money dollars
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>>62314964
response time is a meme 99% of the time.
1080p there is Samsung VA 144hz curved but suffer from some issues. the best TN 144hz is XG2401.
there are 1440p 144hz IPS monitor but they cost a fuckton
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>>62315000
I'm ok with 1080 and I can get the samsung curved for 370$ ,what issues does it have?
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My PC is arriving in a few hours but I don't know how to proceed.
What do I wear?
How do I greet the mailman?
It's a lot of boxes so should I ask him to bring it to my door? (It's kind of a big distance between the front door and the gate)
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>>62315193
Tell your butler to help mailman.
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>>62315193
autism overload
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>>62314058
What does he even mean by "package"

Your friend sounds like Intel shill.
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>>62315193
Watch some educational videos on pornhub about how to greet the pizza guy / plumber and follow their directions.
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>>62315117
read the review (it's the 24" model but the same panel): https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-c24fg70/
there are some issues with purple trailing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoqGHAK-U3U), apparently it's been fixed in newer revisions and it's not a problem if you buy it now.
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>>62314879
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage
WRONG.
Intel is cheaper and still dominates unless all you do is compress/decompress shit in 7zip and run cinebenches.
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>>62315447
It seems like the 24 inch the best choice at my budget and the only monitor which isn't specialized in something
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I have a laptop with a 500gb WD HDD (5400 rpm), not a lot of money, and I would like to upgrade it to at leats 1 tb. What would be the best choice for me? An SSHD with 5400 rpm for the HDD part or a simple 7200 rpm HHD? Apparently a 7200 rpm SSHD do not exist for laptops (2.5"). I have a double booting machine (Windows 8.1 + Ubuntu 16.04) and I use it mainly for gayming and programs like ArchiCad, Cinema 4D and Artlantis (and internet and shit, of course).
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>>62315506
Go back to work, Brian.
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>>62315506
>Intel is cheaper
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>>62315728
i5 7600 is EUR 214,16 (i5 7600k is EUR 239,90)
Ryzen r5 1600 is EUR 212,70

Cheaper, perf-wise.
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>>62315777
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Whats the best buy <500$ laptop, for evereything but gaming?
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>>62315859
The truth is that Ryzen shills took over /pcbg/.
OP should at least mention to wait for Coffee Lake benchmarks because even a shitty sub $200 i3 will completely crucify anything ryzen where it matters.
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>>62315777
>4C/4T vs 6C/12T
>same price
>"cheaper perf-wise"
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>>62315924
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PLEAS EHELP
WANT BUY MONITOR
WITH GOOD COLOR AND NO ANNOYING "AUTO CONTRACT" FEATURE
PLS LOOKING FOR WEEKS NOW!!!!!
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>>62315939
Better per-core perf, which is what matters the most and will continue to matter for many years to come.
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>>62315972
Any good price IPS monitor will give you that
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Looking for a new CPU, motherboard, and case. Don't really have a budget but I always appreciate a good sale. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated
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How much of a difference does going from 75 Hz refresh rate to 144 Hz?
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>>62314879
How's this overclock on my 1600?
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>>62316402
Ryzen 3 1200
ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4
Case is not that important
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>>62314879
haha is that Don Francisco the latin entertainer what the fuck
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I'm having a go with a Mini ITX budget gaming build for mobility sakes, with potential to upgrade. I think my 120GB boot SSD and the DVD R/W (hence the 130 instead of 110 coolermaster case) from a previous build is salvagable, but the PSU was non-modular, so a bad idea.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£97.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£104.93 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£67.80 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card (£146.97 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case (£37.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.38 @ Box Limited)
Total: £545.04

Thoughts?
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>>62316433
not bad depending on your chip's max. Try bumping the soc voltage and seeing if that wont get you closer to 3.9-4.0. Dont go past 1.22-1.25 though, also make sure to use offset and not fixed values, that causes issues on almost all current agesa bios updates
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>>62316661
No solid state drive? Otherwise good build.
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>>62316402
>Don't really have a budget
Get a 1600 for the CPU, motherboard and case come down to what you like and what you need.
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Haven't built a PC in 6 years, does Samsung still make the best SSD?
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>>62315924
>completely crucify
Good one man
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>>62316738
The market is more diverse now.
Depends on what amount of storage and what speed you want, and of course your wallet.
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Is anyone running Windows 8 on the Asrock AB350 Pro4 Motherboard? I just assumed it would be compatible and now can't seems to see anything to confirm either way. Am looking to avoid the win10 shitfest as long as I can
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>>62316764
ASRock should support it. No personal experience since I just run 10 but they have drivers for 8 on the board page.
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>>62316798
Thanks
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>>62316759
What's the fastest 512 GB that's also reliable
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>>62316714

I suppose there is barely any space left on that 120 GB SSD after the essentials. If I swapped the 1 TB HDD for a 240 GB SSD, what should I look for? there are so many models in the £70-80 price range.
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What's the estimated difference in performance between Haswell and Kaby Lake series?
Something like +5% IPC per generation maybe?
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Okay, I'm not going to bullshit you guys. I'm a total beginner with almost no idea what I'm doing who's apprehensive enough about building his own computer and screwing something up that he's considering just saying fuck it and buying something pre-built.

My budget is roughly £4,000 or $5,276

My goal is to just finally be able to play all those newer games I've been buying on Steam during the sales, knowing that my current computer couldn't handle them but telling myself that someday I'll have a computer that can. I don't do much in the way of video editing, if that makes much difference.

If any of you feel like helping, I've picked some components similar to those that are used by people into the same types of games as me.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gDtnzM

The only part that I'm not willing to change is the monitor, as I already have that. I'd also prefer to stick to that case if possible. For the CPU I just picked something with a few good reviews and that sounded good to me. Like I said, I've never really looked into this kind of stuff before and don't have much of an idea what I'm doing.

Probably 32GB of RAM is more than required, but I'd like if this build was a least somewhat future proof for the next couple of years.
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>>62316812
>>62316824
People seem to like the 850 Evo. WD blue I have heard good things about because of low price.
>>62316832
If you are going to get that high speed memory you need to check QVL on the motherboard. Also, a Ryzen 7 1700x is more than enough for just games so I would reccomend that. What's the point of 2 SSDs? Dpn't get OEM windows and opt for a full version because OEM is one use only. I reccomend considering a motherboard with wifi and not a cheap adapter.
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>>62316166
I just check in on /pcbg/ every once in a while and it's hilarious to see people still recommending i5s at this point. Straight retards, nahmsayin.
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>>62316917
Benchmarks don't lie, son.
The only good thing about ryzen is the upgrade path and it's not even sure current chipsets will support Zen2/3.
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>>62316832
>>62316900
And at that price range you might as well get 2 1080tis and an SLI bridge. And 32GB of RAM is unnecessary; 16 is enough if you only plan on gaming.
Basically, spend money on things that matter.
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Is a 144Hz monitor worth it if I only have a 1060 6gb?
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>>62316968
SLI is a meme.
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>case is getting delivered today
>I can finally put my computer together
>just have to wait™ for ups to get here
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>>62316977
Not if you have the money to spend. And that's what he has.
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>>62317000
>entire computer arrives today EXCEPT the RAM
fug me
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>>62317025
>Keyboard arrives today
>Computer is already together
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>>62316832
>X99
>2017
>M.2 SSD
>No HDD
>AIO
>32 GB DDR4
and last but not least
>full tower
If you aren't trolling then seriously re-evaluate what the fuck you're doing with your money.

>>62316948
Even if the i5s yield a few more fps right now, it's often coming at the expense of running near full load across those 4 cores. It's just a shitty purchase for the money right now. The upgrade path being dead seals the deal.
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>>62316975
pls respond
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>>62317059
Yes, if you plan to upgrade soon.
No, if you do not.
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What's Ryzen's equivalent to i7?
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>>62316832
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rBsLGf

32gb is too much for games. Only way you're getting close to needing more than 16 is when you exceed the vram on your gpu but that's not gonna happen with 1080 Ti.

Case was too expensive.

No need for M.2 when you have 1tb ssd.

Get Windows for free from Microsoft ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 ) and then buy the key from kinguin or something. If you don't activate you only lose access to changing themes and get a watermark.
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>>62317034

Don't worry, once he actually bought the whole thing he can have his buyers remorse afterwards just like that guy who blew $5000 CAD on a top of the line rig
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>>62317072
I might upgrade in like 6 months, how much do you think I'll have to pay for something that will run highest settings at 1080p 144 Hz
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>>62316948
i5s are dead, fuck off shill.
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>>62317133
However much the 1070 costs then
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>>62316900
>If you are going to get that high speed memory you need to check QVL on the motherboard.
Thanks, will do.
>Also, a Ryzen 7 1700x is more than enough for just games so I would reccomend that.
I'll check it out.
>What's the point of 2 SSDs?
My thinking was purely that perhaps keeping the OS installed completely separately from whatever else I chose to stick on there would be a good idea. I think one company was selling it as an option while I was looking into the pre-built route and I just took their word for it that it was a good idea.
>Dpn't get OEM windows and opt for a full version because OEM is one use only.
Honestly I only picked that because I wanted to have a placeholder item in that section. Thanks though.
>I reccomend considering a motherboard with wifi and not a cheap adapter.
I'm actually planning on having the thing use a wired connection. The adapter was just an afterthought, a kind of "I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it" kind of deal.

Also, I've watched a fair few tutorials on how to assemble a PC now, but generally speaking they only show the end result if everything goes right and not how to fix it if stuff goes wrong. How hard is it to actually fuck up seriously? Installing the RAM, GPU and CPU seems no more complicated than assembling Lego, but it's more the cable management and initial boot up that worries me.

I know I'm being paranoid, but it's a lot of money to waste if I end up breaking something because I tightened a screw too much or knocked something accidentally and bent some pins.

Yes, I have read the wiki.
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>>62317136
Coffee Lake soon.
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>>62317181
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pc keeps doing these 5 second freezes like it would just hold for 5 seconds and then be totally fine after that.

it means my hdd is dying right? or ram maybe?
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>>62317181
Just wait™
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>>62317082
>1700+noctua
Just get the 1700X, the price difference is small, and no cooler is wasted.
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>>62317082
This is good, but get him a board with wifi like the x370 taichi, probably another video card, and also throw in a full version of 10 instead of OEM on Kinguin. Also a hard drive.
>>62317164
Read the post I quoted and the above of this post for a good idea of what to get. Installing things is really easy, maybe watch a tutorial. Cable management is not an issue so long as you consider it not to look ugly. You should know in your heart if it is a problem. Accidents can happen but really a small mistake doesn't mean much. Screws shouldn't matter that much so long as you aren't putting all the force you can get into them, CPU pins are important not to bend but it's easy not to.
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>>62317203
It means you don't have an SSD and should get one.
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>>62316968
>SLI
lol
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>>62317319
5000 fucking dollars
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>>62317337
it's fucking retarded desu
You can get a great system withing 2k range
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>>62317337
One 1080Ti with nice frequencies is more than enough.
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>>62317351
>>62317360
I agree that it isn't efficient. I'll compromise and say he shouldn't do it unless he wants to spend all the money.
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>>62317181
Good goy.
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>>62317446
>jpg
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>>62315902

X220
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>>62317481
>JPG
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>>62317446
It doesn't matter if you have to buy a new motherboard anyway.
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>>62315777
>Cheaper, perf-wise.
Until you look at minimum framerates, then it's terrible.
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>>62317499
Good goy.
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looking for a new GPU.

Had a gtx 770, fans died on it and it was out of warranty. Have a 144 hz monitor at 1080p.

Whats a great future proofed card?
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>>62317515
But Ryzens has much, much worse min framerates than intel cpus.
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>>62316661

Consider an sfx powersupply sf450

I didn't research into your case, but could save a lot of space/open up more compatability options.
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>>62316825
Less than 10% from Haswell to Skylake, then zero to negative improvement from Skylake to Kaby Lake if we're talking purely about IPC.
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>>62317080

In price, the R7 lineup, but even the R5 line has just as much or more cores/threads than the mainstream i7 lineup
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Cobbling together some hand me down parts so I don't have the manual for this board, what goes here? My psu doesn't have a connector for that
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Just looked at some videos is 1050ti really better than r9 380? I was thinking about selling my 380 to my friend since he really needs some gpu cheap, but now I will just feel bad scamming him if he can just buy 1050ti brand new.
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Just to clarify, £4000 is my top budget. If I can get away with spending less then great, but all I'm saying is that if I must part with that much then I'm willing to do so.

>>62317034
>If you aren't trolling then seriously re-evaluate what the fuck you're doing with your money.
Not trolling, just never looked into this kind of thing before. As I mentioned, none of the parts I picked except the monitor are what I'll necessarily go for in the end. I just picked something that seemed reasonable in each category that had decent reviews and that were apparently compatible with one another.

>full tower
It's the highest rated case on the site.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#sort=-rating&page=1

I liked the idea of something large and roomy with easy access from both sides, as I have large hands. Like I said, I've never build a PC before and I'm trying to give myself as much margin for error as possible. I get frustrated with fiddly things and hoped more room to work with would mitigate this.

>X99
>2017
Again, they seem highly reviewed and a guy I know uses one. What's inherently bad about them?

>No HDD
I heard from a guy on here that they were becoming obsolete as SSDs were becoming more reliable and capable of greater storage capacity.

>32 GB DDR4
Yeah, I agree with this. I just picked it because I thought that if I could afford more then I may as well get it. I mean I'm planning to use this eventual computer for games now, but who knows how my needs will change over time? My thinking was that if having more doesn't cause any harm, then the potential for long term benefit could be worth it.

>>62317228
Much appreciated.

>>62317107
>buyers remorse afterwards
It can't be worse than the ever present feeling of mild existential dread.

>>62316968
>And at that price range you might as well get 2 1080tis and an SLI bridge.
I've head that if you can get away with a single graphics card then you should stick with one as SLI can cause unforeseen problems.
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>>62317527
Except that's wrong, you fucking retard.
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Is there any downside in using a 14 AWG cable instead of an 18 one from my PSU?
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>>62317623
It's true. You can pick any benchmark you want.
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>>62317573
Google is your best friend
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>>62317575

1050ti is better.
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>>62317518
Budget?
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>>62317706
300-400
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>>62316832
Your parts list is a shitshow.
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>>62317692
Ok.
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>>62316502
You mean the (((Chilean))) entertainer.
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>>62317712
GTX 1070
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>>62317692
If I recall, this benchmark was made before they pushed out the Ryzen patch for RotTR.
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>>62317751
1700x is 300€
7600k is 240€ for 6 less fps.
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>>62317600
>I liked the idea of something large and roomy with easy access

Room is only gonna be a problem with small form factor and if you try to build the entire thing inside the case. Just put things together outside on the mobo box.

>X99
Nothing wrong with it, it is just old.

>HDD becoming obsolete
Not for a long time. It'll still take years before SSDs are affordable enough to be used as mass storage. In 2012 I paid 180e for my 120gb SSD (still works today) and now for that price I can get 500gb so it has gotten better but not enough to consider seriously.

>SLI
It's dead and buried even by Nvidia and the support for it has always been really spotty. You're always better off with one single powerful card which is something you picked.
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>>62317751
Not him, but are you referring to the i7 vs R7 or i5 vs R5?
The R5s can hold better minimum frames than the i5s, but the R7s can't generally outdo an i7. Cross CCX latency takes a toll.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3009-amd-r7-1700-vs-i7-7700k-144hz-gaming
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>>62317685
Bump.
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>>62315443
hahahahahaa
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>>62317793
>You can pick any benchmark you want
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Is Seagate good or really shit if compared to WD? I want to buy a 1tb SSHD from them, 'cause it costs way less, but I can't understand if it's reliable or not.
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>>62317869
SSHD is a meme. Just get a separate ones.
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>>62317692
sure
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>>62317869
I don't know about that particular model but Seagate never gave me problems.
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>>62317881
I have a laptop, I can't.
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>>62317847
Yeah and intel is still cheaper in terms of perfs.
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>>62317869
For what reason? Just get a normal one.
As for me I was always using seagate disks and not a single one ever failed on me out of blue. 3TB models are rock solid.
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Is getting an m.2 ssd copper heatsink a bad idea?

My m.2 is the hottest running thing in my PC because it's placed right under my GPU.
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>>62317888
>>62317869
Nice. So the idea that they fail way more is a meme? The actual model I would buy would be the ST1000LX015, btw, I uploaded the wrong image.
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>>62317919
>3TB models are rock solid.
aren't those the ones with the ridiculously high failure rates
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>>62317931
I think it were 2TB ones.
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>>62317919
To get a slightly better performance. I've seen the difference in price is very little, after all.
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>>62317912
No.
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>>62317810
Cheers. I'll have to go back to the drawing board and read up some more before making my final decision. I've waited six years in order to have the time, space and money available to actually look into getting this damn computer. I'm sure I can wait a few more days if needed.

I'm going to be pissed if after saying this I suddenly drop dead from a heat attack or something.
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>>62317949
Why would you even need a high performance HDD? Just install all your stuff on SSD and swap when needed.
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>>62317987
I have a laptop, I need at leat 1Tb and I don't want to spend a lot on it. I can only have one storage disk, and SSHD looks better than HDD.
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>>62318010
*at least
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>>62317920

I've heard they help, but haven't tried them myself.
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Should I buy a GTX 1070 over 580 8gb (both above MRSP by a good bit obviously but I can't be arsed waiting) for 100 euro more for future broofing?
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>>62318079

What's the 1060 price in your area? If it's cheaper than the 580 of go with that.
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>>62318079
depending on prices you might want to consider going to the 1080, it has a pretty significant lead over the 1070 in terms of performance
truth be told both are bad decisions at the current msrp. if you can save up for another little while and get the 1080ti, its a monster compared to the 1070 and will definitely remain relevant longer
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>>62317912
>>62317885
Respond to this please :)
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>>62318109
correction, i didnt mean at current msrp, i meant at current market prices
im retarded
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>>62318114
delid dis
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>>62318114
>:)
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>>62318095
marginally less by about 15-20 euro

>>62318109
isn't 1080 at 1080p pretty pointless? don't think I'd ever bother with 1440p anyway
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>>62318143
well in that case, yeah, pretty pointless. but if it's only another 50 or so over the 1070 why not? then you'll be more future-proofed, specifically against devs that cant optimize for pc
anyone who fully believes that the 1070 will forever be good enough for 1080p is fooling themselves, yes it will be fine for many years, but in 5 years we're going to look back on it and it wont hold up to modern games, mark my words
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>>62318079
Telling the future is hard, but I would advice against spending too much on a(n Nvidia) GPU for the sake of futureproofing. Just look at how the 7970/280x compared to 780 at release, and how they compare in games released after Maxwell became popular. Polaris might age well. Pascal might age terribly. Or it could go the other way around.
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>>62318198
5 years sounds like a decent life span to me
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Sorry, ask this some thread back but I did not follow it up: my VGA is giving black screen on Windows login. Is it fucked?
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>>62318246
then i think you answered your question
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Is this a good list for mega-tasking?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ssn69W
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>>62318366
Not when a 1950x is 200 bucks cheaper.
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ordered my case yesterday and it came today. had picked the 4-7 day shipping from newegg so I'm surprised. now gotta wait for the rest to come next week
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>>62318366
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>>62318133
> >:)
>>/r/eddit
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>>62318366
>2 most expensive 1080 TI that only matter when ln2
>1000 dollar psu
>that god awful case in 2017
>only 16gb of ram with a hedt cpu
>7920x when threadripper exists
at least try with the bait son
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>>62318524
>>1000 dollar psu

But anon, Intel needs that.
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>>62318547
1000w maybe, not $1000
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how's the msi x370 sli plus?
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>>62314879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmCEXbspWuI
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Which graphics card should I buy? I want to play the newest games on 1080p 144 Hz. I also mainly play ci es go and Dota. I am thinking of buying the Zotac 1070.

https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/GeForce+GTX+fuer+Gaming.html
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Hey guys, I just bought a gtx1050ti evga sc and plugged it into my system which now doesn't turn on.

I've tried everything I can think of so far but nothing's working.

I have quite a trashy psu (winpower 500) so I'm guessing that the 1050 was too much for it, should I get a new psu? Any ideas?
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what do i do with a rocket league code that I got with my GPU and don't need
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>>62314879
Found an ssd near me is this guy over pricing this?
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>>62314879
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds

Holy shit someone replace the Pentium with AMD A8 9600 already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCEP7vy9Xxk
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>>62319112
Play rocket league. By force.
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>>62319112
you can gib it to me
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>>62319120
Samsung MZ-75E250B/AM 850 EVO-Series 2.5" SSD 250GB N/A $0.360 (491) $89.99
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>>62319236
Huh So good deal
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>>62319112
sell it
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>>62319007
Are you sure the GPU is not dead? Test it on another computer
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How much better is the R5 1600 over the 1500X for gaming? The extra cores seem like they would make a big difference but I cant find any good benchmarks
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>>62319305
I would but I don't have ebay or paypal or anything
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>>62314879
R8 my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxKP4C
How long would this last? buying this will cripple my savings, but it's worth it if it'll survive for long
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>>62319362
~10% more fps
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>>62319524
Watercooling is a meme. Get a Noctua NH-D14.
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>>62319474
g2a?
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>>62319524
>80 bucks for a non-mechanical keyboard
Seriously nigger? Also that monitor is stupid.
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>>62319589
I should get 2 of them correct?
>>62319611
Then tell me what monitor/keyboard i should get
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>>62314879
>heatsinks sold separately
lmao
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how bad would it be to buy a used i5 k cpu. I bought a g3258 for my poorfag build 2 or 3 years ago because I needed oc. But 2 threads is killing me. Still poor.
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Is there anon here that 2 or maybe 3 weeks ago posted this flash deal for eagletec keyboards. If so thanks a lot, it looks amazing and it's my first mechanical keyboard in my life and it feels amazing typing on it.
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>>62319677
Depends how cheap can you get it.
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>>62319677
Used i5 k cpu is fine as long as it's cheap.
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>>62319125
The idea is to plug in literally any graphics card when you can afford it. It will then crush any 28nm AMD based build. Nobody should be saddled with pre-Ryzen AMD CPUs in 2017.
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>>62319783
>buy pentium
>plug in a better GPU
>suddenly heavy cpu bottleneck because locked 2c/4t
What, you're going to use a powerful GPU on a fucking $80 CPU?
>>
>>62319830
Nah, just upgrade too a six core Coffee Lake whe... oh wait, nevermind.
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What was the last generation of Intel CPUs that supported Windows 7?

I know they dropped support with current CPUs I guess?
>>
>>62314879
does /g/ have unboxing threads? I have had a bunch of parts show up in the past few days.
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>>62319830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7YcPlJ83c
It's unlikely that anyone that destitute will be able to afford a GPU that will sufficiently bottleneck a G4560 unless it's a DX12 game. I mean, these are people that can't even afford an r5 1600. Better to have the single threaded performance if you're just gaymen than a 28nm shitpile AM4 CPU just so you can say you can upgrade later.

>>62319864
A 7700 would be a realistic upgrade.
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>>62319524

>1080ti
>2560x1080@75hz

A long time if this is your only expectation. The 1080ti is pretty overkill for your monitor, but that could essentially mean you could max out settings at that resolution for years.

Have you actually seen this monitor in real life though? It's pretty small for an ultrawide, I recommend bumping up to 29" for 2560x1080
>>
Best RAM for a Ryzen 5 1600 on an Asus Prime B350 plus? pls help
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>>62319891

I'm pretty sure it was Haswell/Broadwell, maybe skylake
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>>62319896

Just post them here, but in a montage not separate images.
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>>62319951
https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf
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>>62315777
>>62315506
>>62315924
>>
is it still possible to build a pc that will be stronger than ps4 for 620 usd?
don't need 4k tho, just let's say witcher 3 on ultra and decent ps3 emulation
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>>62319963
It was skylake.
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>>62319891
Skylake. Also, Intel didn't drop support, Microsoft did.
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>>62316832
>intel
Read the OP
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>>62319677
Get a used i7 and be done with it.
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>>62317034
>running near full load across those 4 cores
>what is optimization
Enjoy your Ryzen running at 40 %, it won't get any better in the future
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>>62320040
>Enjoy your Ryzen running at 40 %, it won't get any better in the future
It already got better a year ago, which is why i5s are shitting the bed compared to i7s.
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>all the integrals for my new build are here
>case was supposed to get here today
>check tracking
>delayed until monday
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>>62318801
Get EVGA GTX 1070
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>>62319976
Ok I might do that. Maybe I'll wait until I throw it all together.
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>>62319998
anyone?
yes or no?
a fucking 1070 is the price of ps4 pro
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>>62320149
probably not
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>>62319998
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FVKX8K
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>>62320149
>1070 is the price of ps4 pro
If only, it's about $100 more expensive here.
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>>62320208
well nevermind
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>>62320149
No. That whole meme got smashed earlier this year when GPU prices went through the roof. Casual gaming is firmly back in the hands of consoles as far as value is concerned.
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>>62319998
>decent ps3 emulation
no such thing
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>>62319998
Well, the ps4(not pro) has GPU that's about 270x equivalent and a shitty CPU, so yes.

Note that I'm talking about raw power, in actual gaming use anything running on PS4 will be optimized for that specific hardware, so it won't necessarily run games any better.
>>
>>62320208
>amd
>>62320213
the inflation isn't that big in poland but still you could get every console from this gen instead of a pc
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>>62320268
There's no better 1500x equivalent for that price. Overclock it to 4ghz.
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>>62320268
the cheapest 1070 is ~1700pln You can get ps4 pro from 1500pln also Polish.
>>
1TB HDD and a 120GB SSD or a 500GB SSD? For mostly gaming.
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>>62317747
How's this?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZTYsJ

The result of a few hours research.
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>>62320268
>greentexting amd
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>>62320299

I'd grab the larger ssd
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>>62315777
Late to the party, but the R5 1600 when overclocked will match the single core performance of the 7500.
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8F28Gf
gotta wait less than a week for the more important parts. man the R5 is pretty big but it's pretty
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>>62320316

>7700k
>overkill as fuck 850w psu

Grab an R5 1600, b350 board, and a 550w or 500w psu to peripherals
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>>62320432
>x370
Why
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>>62315972
NEC ea275wmi 27'
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>>62320435
>bought a 650W G3 instead of a 550W G3, since it was only 5 bucks more
>massive regret because only 1 GPU and there is a daisy chained 8 pin connector now just hanging off the primary connector, ruining the aesthetics and case has no PSU passthrough

just fuck my shit up senpai
>>
>>62320450
buying it off my friend for 100 since he decided to go full gaymer and get that 250 asus board. Though I'm always open to get getting a cheaper b350 board. Any recommendations?
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>>62320316
You can get by with a lower wattage PSU. You don't need more than 550-650W.
>>
How do i deal with the extra cable in the non modular PSU?
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>>62320623
If you can't hide it?
You don't.
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is BenQ GL2250HM good?
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>>62320623

Hide them, or Zip tie them kinda like this guy did at ~4:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_i4HoYqLBI&t=317s
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QUICK QUESTION!

Ryzen threadripper vs Ryzen 7 for streaming/video encoding. Building a new rig, which do i buy?

Is reddit right in saying that it might be worth it to have a threadripper on the off chance that 4k streaming might be around the corner? Or is the massive price difference worth the performance?

What say you /g/eniuses?
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>>62320658

It was okay for it's time, but 1080p monitors are really cheap nowdays. You can basically get any 1080p ips monitor these days and they'll all perform the same. I recommend just getting the one that looks best like a slim bezel version.
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>>62320714

I'd just the R7, if you actually needed the Threadripper you would know.
>>
What's everyone's thoughts on curved monitors? Do you notice a difference? Do you feel more immersed?
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>>62320714
>for streaming/video encoding
Unless it's all you do all day and you get paid for it, go R7.
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>>62320719
what would you recommend in 140 usd range?
need 1080p and one hdmi port
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>>62320781
do you have an AMD Graphics card?
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>>62320798
nah, 770 but upgrading for a ps4
>>
What's the best cheap 1080p monitor? I'm looking at the Acer R240 right now.
>>
my little brother wants to get a gaming pc for minecraft and other games. Tried to do a budget build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqjHcc
not sure if he needs the 3200 speed ram/ 1050TI
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>>62320863
Get 2400MHz RAM and invest in a larger SSD.
>>
R8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqGPCy
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>>62320891
I just threw parts together/10
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>>62320769
>>62320744

well I'm running both a twitch channel and a youtube channel as a secondary revenue stream (gotta eat AND pay rent lol) so having a super high quality stream is important to me. If it's possible that the threadripper would actually be a benefit then I'd pay for it. (I've saved for months so I'm about to blow my wad here)

can you guys give me any idea why I would or wouldnt need the threadripper?
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>>62320863
Dual channel RAM doesn't matter in anything he will be doing. Get a single 8GB stick so you can theoretically go 32 down the line as your needs may change.
Replace that shitty PSU with this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze
You don't really need a 1050ti to do Minecraft but whatever.
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>>62320899
Name one flaw
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>>62320953
Crossfire
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>>62320939
Not him, but what 1050ti is the best?
>>
What's the GPU driver situation on Linux right now? Wondering whether to go with RX580 or 1060, with emphasis on linux driver stability over performance. Fully open drivers preferred.
>>
>>62320960
So should I just use the one Vega or get 1080ti or what? I don't know much about high-end desktop graphics card setups.
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>>62317573
Theres a lot of ports in that picture, which one are you asking about?
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>>62320989
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqGPCy

they all pretty much perform the same, probably evga though, for the warranty
>>
>>62321024
Uh what?
If you're actually serious about getting a card, one 1080ti if you want to be smart, two if you want to be a badass.
>>
>>62320936
If it's on the side, not really important to your future, I don't think the investment is worth it.
If you intend on continuing to do game streaming seriously, and do encoding all on the same machine, it may be worth it.

I'm not an expert on this subject, but I've read some setups like this entail using a separate capture box for encoding etc and don't put all the workload on the same machine.

>For professional streamers who absolutely must hold both tight frame latencies and quality stream output, we’d still recommend a dedicated capture box. The low-end frametimes drop with live encoding on the system, producing variable frametimes (0.1% lows, in our metrics) that can impact the experience for professionals concerned about framerate/frametimes in CSGO or DOTA2, for example. This is likely a non-issue for a lot of the more casual streamers or for people less concerned about high framerate consistency, but may matter for ultra-competitive players in an environment where money exchanges hands for shooting first. In those scenarios, a stream box fixes the latency challenge.
>http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2993-amd-1700-vs-intel-7700k-for-game-streaming/page-2
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I have amd 8350 and gtx 1060. i use a 1080p screen and play a lot of games. thinking of upgrading the cpu to a ryzen or switching to intel. but both require a new motherboard and ram which drives up the price.

my question is;

will there be a significant improvement on performence if i switch to a newer cpu (i5-7600k for example)
>>
>>62320878
>>62320939
Thanks for the input changed some things around
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4C34zM
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>>62321180

Definitely noticeable

Get the R5 1600 with a b350 board so you can overclock. The only intel cpu worth a shit is the 7700k, but it's ~$100 more than the R5 1600, but intel makes you swap out your motherboard every generation while the AM4 socket will be supported for a few years.
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>>62321044
So how's this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xP28Gf
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>>62321310
And don't forget an SLI bridge. EVGA makes a really nice looking one I think.
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>>62320832
PS4 isn't really an upgrade. The graphics may be better, but the CPU power is trash. Good luck getting a playable 60fps on one. Xbox One has the same problem since it uses the same APU.
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>>62321332
Thanks for all the help!
I have to be honest with you though, I can't afford this. I just wanted to see if I was educated enough to choose the right parts for an obscenely powerful PC. I really do appreciate the help, I'm sorry for wasting your time.
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Best case for $50-70 USD? I prefer large top fans.
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>>62321405
NZXT S340 Elite mid
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>>62321405

Probably this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352054&cm_re=define_s-_-11-352-054-_-Product

should support 140mm top fans.
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>>62321395
Maybe someday you'll be there.
As far as this fantasy build goes, what does the motherboard's QVL say about the RAM? Also, the CPU cooler clould probably be better and you could downgrade the PSU.
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>>62321240
Thanks for the input. They are about the same price in my country for some reason, probably taxes or something (Mobo+CPU+RAM costs about 1,5 minimum monthly wage). So i might actually get a 7700k since I don't upgrade very often, once in 5-6 years.
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>>62321463
Too expensive. Regular S340 works great, however.
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>>62321538
You said you have a 1060, right? 7700k is a beast realtive to the card and you could probably find a better balance with i5 if you can only get Intel.
>>
WHAT IS THE BEST PLACE TO GET SLEEVED PSU CABLES? I have Season 750KM (2012)
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>>62321579
https://cablemod.com/
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>>62321570
Makes sense. But it wouldnt hurt right?
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>>62321643
Your build? Bot unless you have a weak PSU. Your wallet? Yes.
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>>62319720
>>62319726
my options are i5-4670k and i5-4690k. Whats cheap for those. Someone just sold an 4690k for "never been used" $120 3 seconds after I saw it on ebay.
>>62320033
I really dont see the purpose of an i7 for my needs.
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>>62321842

$120 is a steal for a 4690k. I'd prob pay like $150 at most.
>>
Am I missing out on something but what's the point in buying a PC new if you have less than like $800 to spend on it to get a 1600 when you can get something like this and put a 1070 in it for the same price? Only problem is limited upgradability but you can just sell it or turn it into a file server or something when you're going to upgrade.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Workstation-Z420-Quad-Core-Xeon-E5-1620-3-6GHz-8GB-DVD-RW-Mid-Tower-No-HDD/302402602026
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>>62321842
you can get 3570ks and 2500ks for like 50 bucks a pop and they're only marginally slower than the 4690k. 10% at max, but they oc like a monster so you can make that performance back up. i have a 4690k and i regret it knowing that i probably could have bought a used 3570k back then for half the price and with minuscule performance difference on average.
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>>62321886
Is there a hub for selling used cpus besides ebay.
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>>62321599
$20 shipping. Hell no, i just need 2 PCIe cables
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>>62321960
Id have to buy a new mobo for a 3570k. Its killing me because they are so cheap, but my gut is telling me its not worth buying a new mobo when it will be slightly slower.
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NwrMsJ
What do you think? might change the mobo, i don't like the micro-atx.
Also the case is Thermaltake View 27, couldn't find it on the website.
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>>62321970

craigslist
gumtree
r/hardwardwareswap on reddit (fuck you I got some sweet ass deals there)
>>
>>62321951
It is a good idea. If you have the ability to do it, and understand what you are doing, go for it.
>>
>>62321989
See
>>62321951

If you want to go even lower than that then there's loads of machines with i5 3570's being sold around $150-200
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>>62321989
is your mobo z97? if so then ok the 4690k is probably your better option. however if you don't have a z97 mobo then you won't be able to OC that 4690k/4670k and it will cost an arm and a leg to get a used one since the prices for them are all fucked up for some reason. you can get a used z77/z68 mobo + 3570k/2500k for probably the same price as the 4690k alone.
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>>62321994
1700x and 580? If this is for gaming get the 1600 at most. Get an SSD, faster memory if you can, and the 212 evo is probably underpowered for a Ryzen 7 OC.
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>>62321970
aliexpress. free shipping too. though i've found that they can be slightly more expensive than ebay listings.
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>>62321951
>Quad core Xeon
>No HDD
>No SSD
>Only 8gb of RAM
>No OS
>No info on PSU so probably some cheap chink shit housefire

You're paying that for a 5 year old CPU that wasn't that good back then.
>>
>>62321994
Get a 1700 if you are going to OC yourself.
Your HD is slow. Get a 7200 RPM so you don't go crazy. Also, get an SSD if you don't have.
You don't need 750W. Get a lower wattage PSU.
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>>62321089

I've heard about the 'two pc' situation with streaming, but I have no idea how I would set something like that up. I've always just used a single pc that pulled the whole load, and honestly with my old girl... she barely could handle it.

Do you have any idea how beefy of a pc I would need for a dedicated capture box? Would something like this be enough?

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core 5600+ 2.8ghz

RAM: 8gb

Video card: Nvidia Geforce 550Ti


It's a spare that i have as my main pc will probably be going to a family member when i buy my new one.
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>>62322037
>>62322065
Not planning to OC at the moment.
Might use for some video editing on the future and some music production. I know a 1700x is overkill but i think i might not have the chance to update to a new computer on a few years.
My current build is pic related, also, this build has a thermaltake TR2 750W.
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Shit guys, if you're seeing super high gpu temps replace that stock thermal paste. My EVGA 1080 SC is only 3 months old and went from running ~70c at load when I got it to over 80. I'm not sure if the thermal paste they're using has shitty quality control or what, but I decided to put some of pic related on before RMA'ing it and I'm now maxing out at 64C running Furmark. It also made a solid difference with my 7700k
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>>62322060
>Probably some cheap chink shit housefire
>In a workstation that went for like $3000 new
You do know that you can just Google the product and look at the spec sheet yourself, right? They come with either a 600W or 400W gold rated PSU. OS costs a grand total of $0 dollars if you know what an ISO file is. It's better that you provide the SSD yourself and not get a used one, and HDD storage is cheap.

There are hundreds of listings of similar workstations on Ebay, if only having 8GB RAM and no HDD trigger your autism then get this with 64GB RAM and 4TB storage.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Build-Your-Own-HP-Z620-Workstation-6-Core-2-90GHz-E5-2667-No-OS-Wholesale-/172631540059
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>>62322149
>Do you have any idea how beefy of a pc I would need for a dedicated capture box?
I know nothing about such a setup. Sorry.
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>>62322201
If you get the 1700x I would reccomend buying a better graphics card as soon as you have the spare cash. Also just get a more powerful cooler or buy the 1700 and use the stock one. 212 evo isn't worth it for you.
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>>62322230
If your cooler is all copper or nickel-plated you can use liquid metal on the GPU die. I've done that for my 1080 ti and it reduced temps by over 15C at load.
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>>62322236
If the seller isn't providing necessary information then it is not my job to search and provide it. Retail price when it was new doesn't matter in the slightest.
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>>62322230
I like that EVGA won't void your warranty for replacing it. Miles ahead of some other companies.
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>>62322458
Ya I know their 10 series cards had the thermal pad issues, but they really have the best customer service in the biz
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>>62322230
>>62322497
Also, I would like to point out that companies have to consider more than performance for thermal paste. Shelf life, costs, and other things need to be considered along with performance.
EVGA did it right by not caring what you use so long as you don't break it.
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>>62322458
>break evga gtx 980
>get send a gtx 1070 in return

nice company
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>>62322570
How did it break?
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>>62322594
bought a 980 used. couldn't hold factory oc without black screening. found out it was still in warranty. rma'd it and got a 1070 back
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>>62322629
Damn, that's stellar. Will keep that in mind.
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>>62322570
>>62322629
Ya they're good that way, and their step-up program is awesome as well
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Anyone know if mac RAM sticks like pic related will work on a gigabyte MOBO?
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>>62322776

Those look like ECC ram, so most consumer boards don't support it
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>>62322852

So macs use ECC RAM?
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>>62322921
Their "workstation" systems do despite being slow and shitty
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What kind of 1080ti Should I buy?
I was recommended the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aorus Xtreme Edition, but I'm not exactly sure.
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>newegg advertising gpus back in stock
>all $100+ mark ups.
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>>62322852
If it's an AMD board it most likely will since most AMD cpu's with an IMC support ECC
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help me out /g/
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>>62323007
That or the evga ftw 3 if you can find it decently priced
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>tfw all my parts for my very first build ever are here and I can't stop shaking out of fear of breaking something
The wiki wasn't lying, this is a nervewracking experience.
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>>62323049
whats your exact question here ?

m.2 is for form factor of the drive
But just because it is M.2 doesn't mean it is fast, the WD blue drive is will still connect at SATA speeds.

Having a NVME drive myself, I can tell you that 99% of the time you won't notice any difference between some very fast NVME drive and some Sata based one.

What you should be getting is the largest sata drive for your budget, because 250GB is not a lot.
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>>62323049
If this is for a boot drive then it doesn't matter. The NVMe drive is better but you won't notice it for anything besides a highly I/O bound workload
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Is it worth getting the protection plan from newegg if I'm buying an $800 graphics card?
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>>62314879
is building a pc cyberpunk? will i get anything out of it?
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>>62323097
>>62323108
I only have one SSD mount in my case, but two m.2 slots on my board. I have Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4. I was going to install a few games on it.
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>>62323147
>>62323108
>>62323097
Never mind I'm getting a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB for $139
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>>62322253
>a better graphics card as soon as you have the spare cash
The 580 will do it's job, but yeah, we'll see.
>a more powerful cooler
Like the deepcool gammax 400, or the be quiet! pure rock?. The noctua might be nice, but is a little expensive, or at least here they sell it like for 170 usd. Hell, even the 212 is 58 usd.
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>>62323210
Well done
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>>62323135
>will i get anything out of it?
A PC.
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>>62323237
At those cooler prices, buy the 1700 and use stock.
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Is a Noctua NHU-12S decent enough cooling for a Ryzen 1600X and EVGA 1070?
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I've been upgrading my pc ever since I built a mid-range one a year and a half ago. Right now I have a 7700k and gtx 1080, but I'm still using 2133mhz DDR4 ram (16gb) with it. Considering the rest of my components, do you think this low of a performance RAM is holding things back? What kind of improvements (gaming mostly) would I see upgrading to 3000mhz+ RAM?
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>>62323341
depending on a game you could get from 3 to 10 more fps. try overclocking it first, you probably could get it to 2666mhz or higher by bumping up the voltage and loosening timings.
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>>62323276
will i get any knowledge out of it?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQKqtJ
r8/h8
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>>62323285
is hilarious because i can even buy it from outside the country, pay it + shipment + taxes and is going to be between 60 and 70 usd less expensive than the price they want to sell it here.
Thanks anyways for the data, i will have your advice on mind.
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>>62322028
Its been so long since I looked into mobos I forgot that was the case. Ill probably just put it off then until the i5 3570k plus z97 is at a decent price, or just upgrade all together to skylake.

For now Ill just try OCing my cpu higher.
Ive kept my oc at 4.2 on my g3258 qith stock cooler, just tried 4.4 and 1.2v and temp hit 72C under load which is apparently Tcase.
Im sure itll throttle before it gets too hot but Id dont want that.
What kind of aftermarket coolers do I buy for overclocking.
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>>62323465
>i5 3570k plus z97

these aren't compatible.
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>>62323388
That's speculative, but the safest bet is learning how to assemble the machine, possibly ranging to a deeper understanding of how the components interact, maybe a newfound appreciation for the complexity that underlies so much of the simplicity that drives our lives.
Maybe a wholeness of fulfillment (Zen and the Art of Motorcycle-Maintenance style) when the machine works. I know that's how I feel.
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I am looking into wireless adapters, and I want to find one that works well through a floor and a wall ideally for around $20.
Any advice?
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Is there any custom cooling out for vega yet? I want to remove amds leaf blower
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>>62323574
A lot of the marketing in 802.11 is snake oil.
Just make sure it has good reviews and is AC.
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>>62323594
I found this. Anybody know if it's good? $15 used or $20 new.
https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Wireless-N-Adapter-Dual-Band-WMP600N/dp/B0028N6VN2
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>>62323705
And then some crazy prices, which makes me unsure.
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>>62323705
>No AC
Can you read?
Also, it's PCI. Your PC better be old.
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>>62323742
Sorry, I am a bit disoriented after looking at tons of them.
It's so hard to determine what will work and what won't based on user reviews.
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>>62323396
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>>62323801
Vastly overpriced GPU. Get a 1070 if you are spending that much.
You don't need 750W. You don't even need 650W.
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>>62323843
>1070 for under $300
where?
>didn't notice the freesync monitor
opinion discarded.
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Looking at more adapters, there is a USB (with AC this time)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016K088UC/?tag=aboutcom02lifewire-20&ascsubtag=2377825%7C%7C%7C%7C99%2C80%7C1%7C
USB with antenna (AC)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B018TX8IDA/ref=zg_bs_13983791_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B37PY2FZTG9Y2N9GQE9P
Are either of these good?
Sorry for the bother.
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>>62323801
>>62323396
>>62323868
>>62323843
>gaming mouse
wait.. i thought you guys were building computers to learn about them and not get botnet firmware.. is this just about gaymen?
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>>62323501
Ill look way more into it before I buy.
Im more concerned about coolers right now. Dont know what to look for.
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>>62320371
And then some, a ryzen core at 4.1 will butcher any Intel core lower clocked than 4.5ghz, meaning every damn locked Intel part.
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>>62324005
Most people who build PCs do it for gaming. That said smaller numbers of people do it for general purpose computers, HTPCs, and workstations.
Most people just order prebuilts though
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>GPU prices still fucked
>STILL no Vega 56 3rd party cards available
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So I'm upgrading, not building from scratch, so here's what I'm thinking on doing.

My current system is really old but:
i5 3570k
gtx 670
16gb ram (2x8gb, can't remember the specifics off the top of my head)

I'm thinking my ram is ok so I'm going to upgrade my gpu for sure and likely my cpu and motherboard too. I play pubg, far cry, skyrim se, and am trying to get more into fps on pc (siege most likely), I pretty much play anything except sports and racing games. My goal is to upgrade my pc to play any current and slightly into the future games on high/ultra at 1080p. I'm hoping to not spend more than 800 dollars, hopefully more like 600-700.

I was thinking of getting the 1070 but after reading the op sounds like the 1060 is perfect for me.

I was planning on getting the i5 7600k, but since the op says no i5, and in the thread I foolishly made before posting here, someone said I don't even need to upgrade? Not sure if that's true, hoping for a cpu that matches well with the 1060 and is able to do what I'm looking for.

For the motherboard, which I don't really understand well despite having built my current pc and now upgrading, I'm just looking for one that is compatible/can handle the parts I get/have and doesn't suffer in quality/build while being affordable.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Brainlet here about to order first pc from Amazon wich one of these psu is better? I'm on a tight really tight budget so I need to choose buying these two options
Thermaltake tr2 600w not certified not modular with corsair 88r case
PSU:https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0058FAYQ2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
CASE :https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01550Y9GA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504920103&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=corsair+88r&dpPl=1&dpID=51vG0tohVGL&ref=plSrch
Or
Evga semi modular 500w bronze but with cooler master lite 3 case
PSU:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DZ6R9GE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504920005&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=500+w+bronze
CASE:https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LXHL0DI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504920052&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Master+lite+3&dpPl=1&dpID=41gpv9gsBGL&ref=plSrch
This is my first build

Prices are different here I'm ordering from Amazon mexico so I only have those two choices wich are the cheapest here this is my pcpartpicker.com list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J42VVY
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>>62324700
>I'm thinking my ram is ok so I'm going to upgrade my gpu for sure and likely my cpu and motherboard too.
nope. New motherboards use DDR4 ram. DDR3 ram will not physically fit in a DDR4 slot.
If you plan a CPU and motherboard upgrade, prepare to buy new ram as well
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Case for a massive workstation with multiple graphics cards, custom loop liquid cooling, ~12HDDs for massive storage + some SSDs for actual work?

CaseLabs Mercury S8
CaseLabs Merlin SM8
Phanteks Enthoo Elite
(Joke Option: Thermaltake W200)
?
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>>62324726
well, that is.....really stupid, but like I said, I was told by someone else in the thread I made I shouldn't even need to upgrade, that my cpu is (fine for gaming). Again, not sure if that's true.

I'm about to check but is DDR4 much more expensive than DDR3? If not then it shouldn't be too bad if I can get the other parts I need for the lower end of my range.
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>>62324716
Either case will be fine. As to the PSU, go neither. Seasonic has an M12 520W 80+ Bronze Fully modular PSU for like $53. and it includes all black cables as well.

Here. Try this. It'll have a better upgrade path in the future.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XmZcwV

Also, don't touch the 3GB 1060. Worthless card. You need 4 GB vram at minimum.
>>
On a motherboard with four RAM slots is it better to have the sticks together or one apart?
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>>62324796

Ram prices have skyrocketed, and haven't really been coming down.

Honestly though looking at your build, you could get away with just upgrading your gpu. 1060 or a used 970 would be your best bet. 1070 is overkill for your build, but will pretty much let you max out 1080p and stay at least 60 fps at ultra/high for the next few years. Expect in maybe pubg since it's so unoptimized.
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>>62324859

One apart, usually mobos have different colored spots to show where to put them.
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>>62324845
I only can afford those. Exactly those two also I'm buying from Mexico so all I can afford is a 1000 pesos from this site

www.amazon.com.mx

So wich one? My amigo ayúdame
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>>62324930
one sec dude, how to look shit up in pesos
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Using B350 carbon pro and psu works but no LED lights up when the PSU is turned on and the psu fan doesnt activate.

Currently have CPU, GPU, and Ram plugged in. Any advice?
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>>62324872

Really, when I just looked on newegg, the prices didn't seem that inflated from when I bought my current DDR3 ram sticks. Is it ok to get the cheaper 2400 types (not exactly sure what this number is for?) or should I go with the 3200 or better?

That's really interesting, I never thought in a million years my 4+ year old cpu would still be viable. Has gaming become that gpu heavy? Or did I just way overbuy when I made this PC?

If I don't get a new cpu is there a chance I'll regret it later or end up needing to get one anyway or something? I just feel like I have the money now so I should, I'd hate for my cpu to be outdated in like 6 months to a year when I've blown all this extra cash on something else and have this great gpu without the cpu to back it up, if that makes sense, which it might not because I really don't know what I'm talking about lol.
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>>62325013
How does the PSU work but the fan doesn't turn on?

Have you done a paperclip test with a case fan?
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>>62324930
go for the EVGA then.
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>>62325043
yeah i did the paperclip test so i know it works im saying there is no signal from mobo
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>>62325069
You're absolutely sure everything is installed correctly including all of the components and power connectors?
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>>62324996
Would be amazing just go on Amazon.com.mx
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>>62325042

>Is it ok to get the cheaper 2400 types (not exactly sure what this number is for?) or should I go with the 3200 or better

Ryzen likes high frequency ram unlike intel where it doesn't really matter too much.

>That's really interesting, I never thought in a million years my 4+ year old cpu would still be viable. Has gaming become that gpu heavy? Or did I just way overbuy when I made this PC?

No intel just basically held a cpu monopoly for like the past 6 years so every "new gen" had very tiny increased performance. Ryzen ended up being good so now intel is being forced to increase their core count for coffeelake.

>
If I don't get a new cpu is there a chance I'll regret it later or end up needing to get one anyway or something? I just feel like I have the money now so I should, I'd hate for my cpu to be outdated in like 6 months to a year when I've blown all this extra cash on something else and have this great gpu without the cpu to back it up, if that makes sense, which it might not because I really don't know what I'm talking about lol.

Hard to say really, if you have the means to upgrade now, Ryzen is a pretty safe bet since the am4 chipset is going to last a few years unlike intel where you have to upgrade your motherboard every gen if you want the latest cpu.
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>>62325094
>>62324930

Your budget is tight my dude, go with the evga one though, it's the safer bet.
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>>62325085
only thing i can see is my gpu has a 8 pin that goes to 2 6 pins
I am using stock 6+2 pin. should i hook up 2 6 pins to it?
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>>62325085
look good?
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I'm considering spending all my savings on a $3,000 pc build. I'm a 19 year old college freshman and only have 2 bills to carer to.
Am i insane? Is it worth it?
I guarentee this build will last me for a long time
>>
I see, I didn't know what Ryzen even was before researching for this little project. Was planning on staying in my save little nvidia/intel bubble, which Ryzen card would be good for my needs if you don't mind my asking? Or is there a line of them or only a few?

Still having trouble with the upgrade cpu or not decision. Should my current cpu really handle 1080p high/ultra gaming for a while still? I'm also being told elsewhere that I should OC it and that it'd be more than viable.

I also worry about my mobo. It's the ASRock Z75 pro3, I bought it for cheap without much research because the mobo I had broke and I needed one asap and was broke at that time. Will that mobo handle the 1060 well?
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>>62325316
>ryzen card
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>>62325316
sorry this post was supposed to link >>62325132
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>>62325316

>Ryzen Card

I think you may have misunderstood, Ryzen is the cpu

>Upgrade my cpu or not, should I OC? i5 3570k

Doi dude, I'm surprised you hadn't already, you already have the motherboard for it. It's free performance. All you have to do is watch one video on youtube and it's that easy. Preferably watch one using the same motherboard manufacturer as you so you can navigate the bios, then google average overclock settings for your specific cpu then adjust from there since every cpu overclocks slightly different.
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>>62325290

>$3000

Post parts, I bet it's retarded.
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>>62325490
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Akhaten/saved/2svKZL
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>>62325233
did you tap a screwdriver to the front i/o connector for the power button to turn it on?
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