/pcbg/ - PC Building General

so what would be the best used processor to pair with a 970? 2500k, 2600k, 3570k, 3770k?

all are within £50 of each other and i want to spend the least required to play at 1080p

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Bristol Ridge, yay or nay?

>>62337559
I'd say yay, if only for the far superior upgrade path. Just make sure to pair it with a good B350 motherboard.

should I get a free-sync or g-sync monitor?

>>62337523
I overclocked my g3258 to 1.25v 4.6Ghz on a stock cooler and reached 72C under 100% load for an hour.
Why is this not the recommended budget cpu anymore. Upgradeablity?.

>>62337582
Do you have an AMD or Nvidia GPU?

>>62337596
right now I have an rx 480 but will buy gtx 1070 on black friday.

Is the stock cooler on the R5 1600 good enough to use in a mITX case?

>>62337582
depends. Do you plan to buy an AMD graphics card, or an nvidia graphics card?
Only AMD cards work with Freesync.
Only nvidia cards work with G-sync.

Freesync is MUCH cheaper.
G-sync requires you to sell your first born child to nvidia, as well as an arm and a leg.

>>62337616
Fucking why? One, 1070 ain't gonna see any good deals, and two, that's a sidegrade if I ever saw one.

>>62337618
yes, though you'd have to worry about the height of the cooler versus the case.

>>62337582
neither. get a nice 1440p60 monitor for half the price and with much superior colors, like those pro monitors

Is it true freesync can work with nvidia gpus?

>>62337658
no.

Is it fine to keep using a 9 year old PSU?

>>62337658
the monitor will, and you're experience will be practically identical to someone using an amd gpu but as for the tech itself, nah. freesync is shit anyway. everyone i know who has a freesync monitor reports bad input lag and shit freesync ranges e.g. mg279q. i only know one guy with a gsync monitor pg278q and he's told me nothing but good things but fuck paying like $600 for a fucking monitor. just do this >>62337655

Is Corsair the only company that offers Sleeved cables for their PSUs? Not talking about extensions

>>62337709
I have a 1440 (ASUS PB258Q) and want to experience 144hz, I'm falling for all the "can't go back to 60" shilling and need to see for myself but fuck TNs and screentearing

>>62337655
I was able to get a 27 4K monitor (Dell P2715Q) for what I would have payed for a 24 2K G-Sync one.

Dear /pcbg/, would I see a real improvement going from my current old and shit SSD
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SV300S37A-240G/dp/B00A1ZTZNM
to a 512GB Samsung 850 EVO ? Is it worth it?

It's for my app/os partition. I have other HDDs for storage/media/games.

So a budget build is around 300? And a midrange is around 600 and a high-end build is around 1200 all the way to 3000 right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>62337755
at the end of the day you won't even be able to hit 144 fps consistently at 1440p. probably not even 100 fps consistently. i have a 1070 at 1080p and i barely get over 100 fps in games like bf1 on ultra at 1080p due to my cpu. you'd have to literally upgrade your whole system to take advantage of some meme tech. i'd personally just stick to 1440p60 unless you already have a 7700k oc to 5ghz

>>62337559

Cheaper in the long run if you plan to upgrade since you don't have to replace the motherboard with the AM4 socket. Pentium is probably better side by side even though its 2c/4t rather than a real 4core.

>covfefe lake
>LGA 1151 V2
>Z370 followed by Z390 chipset

top kek

>>62337812
A budget build should be $400. When a gpu cpu and mobo cost 100 each you arent getting one for $300 unless you waste money on used old parts that are heavily outdated.

>>62337815
I'm saving for a 1080 ti anyway, but I can't afford the cuckbux for a gsync monitor too, what's the best way to get 144hz without a shitty TN? Is VA panels any good?

>>62337912

Get an ips version?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824106004

what i'm currently using

>>62337912
just get a freesync monitor without using freesync. you wont have any of the issues i mentioned before as you won't be using the freesync tech which is the main problem of those monitors. something like the pg279q is ips 1440p 144hz but suffers from a super shitty freesync range and also input lag when freesync is used but like i said you won't be using freesync anyway so you won't have those problems

>>62337912
>>62337963
mg279q*

So I've set everything up and during the installation of winblows 10, and it asked if I wanted to install on the HDD or the SSD so I know it knows they are both there, but when going through the file manager only the SSD shows up. How do I fix this?

>>62337986
Looks good but I'm always scared of dead pixels and excessive backlight bleed, especially from ASUS. It took several rmas to get one that wasnt shit with my PB258Q, has their QC gotten any better in the last year or so?

>>62338087
IPS QC in general is shit. several brands have backlight bleed problems specifically with their 144hz IPS panels

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Are these timings terribad ?

>>62338206
The panels are all AUO panels

I've a i5 3330 and i can get a second hand 3770k for 80€.
Is it worth it?

How long could I expect a PSU to stay in good health when I have only ever used 80% of its max capacity and probably average around 40%?

>>62338469
I never had psu break on me and I was using cheap chink shit for 7 years, now my father uses it for another 2 years.

>>62338458
i want to know the same thing >>62337558

>>62338370
If you can get better timings at 2933/3000, I'd go with that instead.

>>62338458
fucking do it, I've got an OC'd 3770K in my machine, worth the invest at that price

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>>62338494
Okay, thanks anon, I had a little trouble with my pc and thought it was my PSU, but I think it's probably the mobo then (now that it's no longer working, I'm pretty sure even). But I'll see if I can try another system first and if it works it'd save me a few bucks for when I build a new system.

>>62338458
I think oc'd 3770k will still do fine for next 2-3 years and then you can just make one huge jump to either zen 2 or whatever else is gonna be great then.

my buddy just put an AMD FX-8350 in his computer
is he an idiot?

>>62338370
Yes. Increase DRAM voltage (and tweak other settings) and try to lower them. Even cheap memory kits are around 16-18-18-38. Good Samsung b-die kits are something like 14-14-14-34 and they can also be tightened. If you are on Ryzen getting higher memory clock is not always better than super tight timings.

I just bought a 1080ti, what am I in for?

>>62338657
Absolutely

>>62338695
High framerates and equally high temperatures if your card has shit cooling.

>>62338719

I got one that has three fans on it. I'm hoping its going to be okay.

>>62338458

Depends, do you have the motherboard to support it?

3770k is still a a damn good cpu, but I think if you had to replace your motherboard too for a Z series, you might as well save up more money until you can replace the Mobo/cpu/ram and might as well go ryzen at that point.

>>62338625
with what gpu and what performance?

I want to wait for coffeelake but i still did not test my parts what do?

>>62338469
>>62338641
Several factors will affect the lifespan of a psu.

But as long as there are good quality components and engineering in place, and you dont push its limits, two times its warranty time I'd say.

Its a bit of a lottery. If you are gonna build a budget system then go ahead and reuse it, just make sure it has enough power to deliver, but if you are gonna use some more expensive components that require more juice, get a new one.

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anyone familiar with watercooling know what could cause this discoloration? easily cleanable or should i return it?

>get a shitty walmart keyboard because im borrowing my current keyboard from a friend
>half the keys dont fucking work
epic

>>62338731
>not getting 4 fans
Do you even chink gpus?

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>buy the Vega 56 combo for $500 yesterday
>check newegg today to see if I missed out on any non-combo MSRP Vegas
>see this

Boy, that was a close one. Is anyone selling the 56 at MSRP anymore?

>>62338812
Will probably get a r3 1200 and keep my hd6850(which got bottlenecked by my current cpu, so it's like getting a new gpu, really) until gpu prices drop, and as soon as Ryzen 2 releases I might get that and a new psu depending on power usage and how long it'll take to actually release.

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>>62335652

>gpu delievered to parcel box instead of front door
>roommate has mail key since I never get anything there anyway

i hope irma wipes these usps bastards out one by one

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>be me
>have H100i liquid cooler in my desktop, because I built it when I was really into the gayming meme
>fuck up the PC, spend a few months debating on what components to upgrade, what OS to install, procrastinate a fuckton
>spend most of my time on a laptop instead
So typical temps on my "gaming" laptop would be about 40*C idle, and 90*C full load (so when playing a modern game). Back to the story:
>finally get PC set up
>thoroughly clean it with compressed air
>blow out like 2 pounds of dust from the cooler's radiator
>go for a quick stress test
>pic related

>>62339084
Seems good to me?

>>62339154
Well no shit. I don't remember temps like that even before I stopped using my PC - I recall about 27*C idle, 50*C load. I've never had sub-40*C temps under full load.

I'm running a proper prime95 test right now and it just barely peaked over 40 to 42*C.

>>62338606
>>62338688

currently on 16-18-18-36 with ryzen 1600 at 3200, good enough?

>>62339306

youre good, imo 14cl premium isnt worth the effort

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Is there a W7 Image that is pre-updated (exception of telemetry patches)?

>>62339347
Nope. Just run wsus offline, after all that's installed, run remove windows 7 telemetry script, and disable updates, and you're good. Check for security rollouts once every so often.

ok I want to buy a monitor for competitive fps gaming, esports, etc. should I even bother with 4k? which monitor should I choose? Currently planning a build with a threadripper and a 1080ti

>>62339394
Get 144Hz. Then depending on which games you play, get either FHD or QHD - just make sure you'll be able to keep your framerate up in your chosen games at that resolution if you go above 1080p, otherwise it would be a waste.

And unless you're confident you can maintain 144FPS 100% of the time (which would probably be the case, say, for CS:GO with a 1080ti, but not necessarily so for more modern games), then make sure it has G-sync.

I'm looking for a case that's particularly good at keeping dust and particulate OUT of my system. I have 3 dogs and a major dust problem in my house. Can anyone Recommend a chassis that would be best to keep my precious precious build dust free?

>>62339330
is 1.4v 24/7 too high for dram ?
also 1.15 NB ?

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>>62339389
Thanks

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can someone please help me, i found a pc in the dumpster and threw arch on it
i dont know what to upgrade, it can barely run arch
cpu is slow and ram is limited, mobo is trash as well, its a dell 745 btw
maybe another OS than arch would be better for this? dont want to spend much on it really
pic related

>>62338835
do you have any additive in the loop?

Could be plasticizer leaking from your tubing. Does the tubing look ok?

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Is there any way of reading out VRM temps on Vega?

>>62339629
isnt arch supposed to be barebones? if it cant run that just stick it back in the dumpster you found it in

>>62339632
i bought it used so i have no way of answering this unfortunately. i guess it's not rust so i'm going to go ahead and try cleaning it and see if the stain is permanent.

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>>62339730
ill prob throw it back into the dumpster, cant use it for anything now
ill save up the case + gpu though
i can never find good free stuff

>>62339442
FPS so overwatch, cs:go, stuff like gta5, some comp starcraft, stuff like that. I just want to be able to compete without worrying about being bottlenecked by hardware.

This is the build I am tentatively working with:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bzx2Ps

I'd like to shave some cash off of it if I can, but going for peak performance makes it difficult. if anyone sees anywhere where I could get equivalent performance for less money, that would be great.

>>62340271
>MAX performance for toaster tiles like ovwrwatch, cs:go, starcraft
>gaming with threadripper

What are you doing?

>>62340271
>Total: $4126.29
Fuck this gay earth

>>62340271
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bzx2Ps
dear fucking lord man im pretty sure this is a bait if it not please do your research

>>62340271
cucksports games run like silky butter
no need to blow this much money

What happened to logicalincrements?

>>62340564
FUTUREPROOF™

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Pic related is current build. What kind of performance increase am I looking at if I went and built this.

>CPU
Ryzen 5 1600
>MOBO
GA-AB350-GAMING 3
>RAM
Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200
>GPU
MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB

>>62340595
>msi

>>62340610
I've used them for six years and haven't had any issues what so ever. Fuck off nigger.

>>62340610

Msi video cards are good, only their mobos are shit

>>62340595

Not much if any in single core performance. You would've got better performance using all that money to grab a 1080 maybe even 1080ti instead of your 1060

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When will sexy babes make a return to our GPUs?

>>62340717
In that case I'll probably just end up selling the 1060 and then get a 1080.

>>62340595
Wait for Ryzen 2 and buy a 1080/1080ti in the meantime, your 4770K is still good enough for games since 1-2-4 cores is still the name of the game. 1600 is mainly good if you want to record/stream or do video editing / use your pc for work.

Also
>upgrading from a 1060 to a 1070

no

>>62340734
I like girls where I can count their polygons.

>>62340595
Just upgrade the GPU if you really want.
Upgrading from Haswell to anything requiring a mobo upgrade is a waste of money.

>>62340823
>>62340835
Damn, I was looking forward to upgrading. Thanks for the advice.

>>62340595
>nigger thinks this is an "upgrade"

>>62340917
First you get mad at MSI, now you ridicule someone for thinking they were building an upgrade. Get a life buddy, atleast I can afford a PC.

>>62340975
I'm not even the same guy who mentioned MSI.

Now the fucking MSI internet defense force shows up and quotes the wrong person. Honestly though, do people in this thread even do their own research or are capable of independent thought?

It's not worth it to go from i7 4770 to an R5 and from 1060 to a 1070.

>>62340448
>>MAX performance for toaster tiles like ovwrwatch, cs:go, starcraft
>>gaming with threadripper
>What are you doing?

streaming, encoding, gaming, etc I need an all in one due to space concerns. I do youtube and twitch so something that can stream while getting a video ready to post on youtube after hours of editing seems great.

>>62340456
How do you think I feel, I have to PAY for this -_-


>>62340557
it's not bait, and I've done quite a bit of research. I can tell you why i chose each item, but I'm not going to say I'm an expert. Please do help to cut the cost if you can, I still have to buy mic, webcam, boom, etc... and its not cheap.

Basically I want a professional rig, not just a gaming pc that moonlights as a streaming box.

>>62337799
>Dear /pcbg/, would I see a real improvement going from my current old and shit SSD
>https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SV300S37A-240G/dp/B00A1ZTZNM
>to a 512GB Samsung 850 EVO ? Is it worth it?
>
>It's for my app/os partition. I have other HDDs for storage/media/games.
Any opinions on this?

>>62341127
>How do you think I feel, I have to PAY for this -_-
Go be rich somewhere else this is a weaboo neet board.

>>62341156
hey fuck off okay, I saved my pennies for a year to get this cash. I work as a janitor for snot nosed punks like you, picking up your trash and cleaning up after you when you smear your handfulls of shit on the bathroom stalls.

IF you want something, you've gotta work and save for it. b8/10 yes, I mad.

>>62340909
While it may be worth upgrading your GPU with every new generation of cards, CPU upgrades don't make as much difference in games and the roi is much lower unless you move from a entry level model to a high tier model. In your case you already have a (recent) high tier model and want to upgrade to a new high tier model.

Much better value to be had from GPU upgrades.

I've got a GTX 1060 6gb build coming up, what display monitor should I get? Seems like 24" 1080p is the best bet. TN color accuracy feels icky but IPS 60HZ doesn't feel too good either. How important is g-sync? XB241H seems like the only valid g-sync option, don't wanna go more expensive than that.

How's the Samsung CFG70, seems like the best of both worlds?

>>62341200
>I work as a janitor

On this imageboard? FOR FREE?

>>62341275
CFG70 is a piece of shit VA panel from Samshit with the worst (very narrow) freesync range ever

Why don't you look into other 144hz Gsync monitors instead?

>>62341200
Kevin?

>>62340909
Just upgrade to a 1080ti. Haslel is still going to be relevant for at least one more CPU cycle from Intel not including covfefe lake.

>>62341289
What, like asus PG248Q? I heard it has issues with dead pixels. TN just looks icky as hell most of the time, is there anyone that doesn't?

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Don't buy intel, fuck intel, fucking jewish fucks, I'm unironically a Nazi now.

>>62337616
>sidegrade: the post

>>62341328
So the dilemma here is that the 1060 6GB is not really stronk enough for 2560x1440p so you are stuck with 1920x1080. However, those gsync options are all TN panels.The AOC 2460PG is only like $350.

If you had the money I'd say go with a 1070 or better and get another better but more expensive monitor.

If AMD actually had good and affordable (lol crypto and vega) video cards available you'd be able to grab 27" 2560x1440p 144 Hz freesync monitors with IPS panels for ONLY $400. They also have non meme 30-144 Hz sync ranges.

Anything I should change to save some cash?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Msw7VY

>>62341388
>corsair CXM PSU
disgusting

>>62341378
I understand the problematic correlation here but think this will have to suffice for now. The problem is adding both the 1070 AND a better screen, just not justifiable at this point. The Acer XB241H has gotten pretty favorable reviews but feels kinda expensive for a 24" 1080p screen, I've seen screens for half that price. But it's G-sync and maybe some configuration wizardry could mitigate any color issues?

>>62341346
you just need more competition bro

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>>62341289
not that type of janitor, the type that actually picks up shit and trash for a living. You can imagine why I'd rather try to get a job streaming/youtubing/esporting.

>>62341301
srry not kevin

>>62340557
Seriously, I'd really like your input on how to trim this down if you know how to do it better. Here's my reasoning per part:

>threadripper:
I want this for the multitasking, gaming, streaming, and video preperation at the same time without setting the house on fire or dropping the stream.

>Enermax liquid cooler:
Quite literally the only TR4 specific liquid cooler i could find with a cooling plate that actually fit the entire TR4 chassis. As it is, other liquid coolers that are 'compatible' don't cover the dies fully, and I will lose out when i try to OC.

>thermal grizzly:
Best paste. period.

>Rog Zenith
This is one of the parts that I dont feel comfortable with. IT's the board that came with most of the kits I've seen tech sites showcasing, and the only mobo I have seen in action with the threadripper. I just want to use what i know works. If you think there are better mobos out there can cut the cost further, please explain how they compare.

>960pro, crucial, toshiba
Chose this combination because I couldn't justify getting two 960 pros desu. basically I will set it up to be : 960pro for boot/streaming/video prep, crucial for games and apps, and the toshiba for long term storage of footage/b-roll.

>corsair 1080ti liquid cooled
Going for a liquid cooled build for OC and, less noise to interfere with recording sound, went with the sealed corsair because I don't feel super comfortable with building my own watercooling yet.

>Corsair carbide:
Sound reducing full atx tower.

>Gskill Flarex
According to gskill, this ram was made specifically for the threadripper architecture, plus the 3200mhz seems ideal. I'd have liked 64gb, but they didnt have that option and I couldn't afford it at this rate.

mtc

>>62341456
Any 24" 1920x1080 screen will be relatively expensive, especially since they're TN panels.

You can load different ICC profiles and do some calibration but it'll still be a TN in the end, even if it's one of the higher end TN panels.

>>62340557
>>62341485
cont'd


>seasonic prime titanium 1000watt
I figured I'd need at least 1000 watt to run this money pit, and I wanted a titanium rated ps to avoid blowing my shit up when i OC due to bad ripple.

>memedows 10
self explanatory.

so help me out, I dont pretend to know everything, (or anything for that matter) but I did my best in my research. any constructive criticism would be appreciated, especially if i was wrong somewhere.

asus, msi, or gigabyte for ryzen b350 motherboard?

>>62341388
Yeah, get a cheaper processor.

>>62341641
Honestly shouldn't really matter. There's a lot of well-reviewed and affordable choices:

Asus Strix B350-F
MSI B350 Tomahawk
MSI B350 Gaming PLus
Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3
And more

Pick whatever suits your budget/needs

>>62341388
since your light gaming most likely just go for the 1300x
>>62341661
thanks man. I've been racking my brain over what mobo to get

>>62341674
don't get a gaming plus if you want good post times off the bat

mine takes about 15s to reach windows login, on the latest bios

I told myself I would buy a monitor I had my eye on for a while now if it ever went on sale. Now it's on sale, but so are some better monitors that were more expensive. Now I'm thinking I should just pay as much as the original monitor would have cost and get an ever better one that's on sale.

>>62342163
Yeah okay great, but where's the context? We don't know what monitor you're shitting on about

>want to get another big HDD to hold more animu/movies

Should I get an 8TB HGST NAS? At this point should I start looking into cloud backups or at least raid?

>>62342360
If you want to keep the data safe, yes.

Is going above R5 1600 at all worth it for the performance increase in games?

should I build a dedicated linux machine or just use my laptop with a monitor/keyboard/mouse attached?

>>62342508
Very few games take advantage of 1700's extra cores. You should only get it if you're really into those or get it just because you can.

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>>62342551
>spend a lot of money or have your laptop look worse than your mom in the middle of her last gangbang, while being just as loud

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JTTZyf
Budget: $300ish
Games: OW for 6+ hrs straight, any monitor prefer 144hz
Goals: Find a smaller and better case for this build.

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>>62342824

>>62342824
>small case
Go for a case that's so big it intimdates normies who see it.

>>62342860
dont think itll fit with my mobo

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?

>>62343164
It means it may or may not come with AM4 mounting brackets. Just contact Noctua and they'll send you one.

>>62343217
Thank you.

what is more favorable, an r9 380 with freesync support or a 980 (slightly more powerful 1060) with no freesync support? both at 144hz.

>>62343348
as an r9 380 owner I can say you won't be reaching that 144hz very often.

>>62343217
>>62343225
http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit

What's the best cheapass cooler that works for AM4 out of the box?

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>>62343374
i know but the trade off is freesync smoothness. so it's either low graphics at 80ish fps with fs smoothness or low-medium graphics at 120ish fps with no fs.

>>62343421
Can't help yo with that, never actually used freesync/gsync, but I used my friends monitor which was 144hz and it felt great. He was playing games at 144fps tho.

I'm building in a Define Nano S
Should I get a reference card or one with a aftermarket cooler?

I'm saving up money to build a PC, but I plan on using the iGPU on the G4560 until I can save for a 1050ti (Gonna buy everything else first.), I'm wondering though if anyone has managed to install Windows 7 instead of 10.

>>62343386
The one that comes with your CPU

>>62343596
uh, sweetie, CPU coolers are memes though???

>>62343628
then don't use them at all

>>62337559
Yay, thanks to upgrade path and a decent iGPU

>>62342875
>implying normies will ever enter his hovel

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What does /g/ think?

Tempted to go with a Vega 64 for my freesync Monitor but is the 1080ti worth it?

>>62344124
Why Asrock?
Why no PSU or Storage?
Why a watercooler?
Why a 1080ti for any other reason that 60fps 4k?

>>62337559
only the 950 if you absolutely can't afford a 1200. or the 9600 for dad builds
heres my neetbux build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMrYsJ

>>62344185
Is 1440p 144fps doable with 1080?

>>62344252
Probably.

RAVEN RIDGE WHEN

>>62344185

already have a psu

This is just an upgrade over my fx 8370 build

>>62344252
For competitive shit, yeah 144 is doable. For intensive and poorly optimized SP games then you're gonna wanna push the other $200 to ensure the framerate you want. Of course this all depends if you just blindly crank settings to max or if you personally optimize your settings too. If that's the case the 1080 can definitely handle 90% of games on the market.

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>tfw my bios update failed and my mobo refuses to boot

Its been a while since i bricked a motherboard, i guess I can finally move on from lga 1155 though

>>62343386
Hyper 212 EVO or Deepcool Gammaxx 400

>>62344342
What's wrong with this guy?

>>62344365
he bought intel

>>62344365
He paid 3x msrp for a rx580

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>>62344406

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Is this a worthwhile upgrade?

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>>62344406
>he bought intel

>>62344595

Besides not having dual channel ram it looks fine

>>62344618
I was planning on grabbing another stick of RAM down the line anyway

>>62337812
600 would be a budget build. 300 is "You need to save more money" build.

What do you guys use to test the stability of your overclocks?
Is it different if I only OC the RAM and not the CPU?

My system draws 499w total. I got a 650w psu, Should I have gone higher?

>>62344595
bump the SSD to a 240-275GB model. They're the best bang for the buck currently.
Looks good otherwise.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272635262563

GET THIS SHIT NOW

>>62344832
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/272635262563

its cheaper at staples price matching microcenter

>>62344832
literally a scam

>>62344666

Iuse Aida 64 and Prime 95, then Furmark for my gpu

>>62344618
>>62344775
Do you think it would be better to wait until the i3-8350k drops in October?

>>62344910
no. We had a fag who works for Intel on a few days ago doing an AMA> Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake with extra cores stapled on.. T+Intel won't properly have a Ryzen competitor until Turtle Lake, and Zen 2 will be out by that point.

>>62344959
If the processor is named lake, then why does it run so hot?

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>>62345017
because it needs entire lake to cool it down

>>62345017
They're working their way up to Firelake

>>62345017
Lake of fire

>Skylake
>rebrand haswell
>Kabylake
>Skylake but with more clocks
>Coffeelake
>Skylake but with more cores
>Icelake
???

>>62345097
Icelake is Coffeelake but on 10nm and same clockspeeds

>>62345168
actually, Intel says the first 10nm chips would be slower than the 14nm chips.

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OK everyone i need some help here.

I'm looking for something like BenQ 24" XL2430T , but for around $200 bucks. Any suggestions?

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>>62340734
Never ever

>>62345357
>XL2430T
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#H=144,240&sort=price&page=1

>>62345376
>https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#H=144,240&sort=price&page=1

I should be a bit more specific. I am trying to get a professional gaming tier monitor, the BenQ 24" XL2430T was perfect.. but of course it got discontinued. I dont want to have to pay 300 for the XL2430 (fucking zowie).

any idea?

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$1500 budget, r8 it bois
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLTz4C

>>62345443
>"professional" gaming tier monitor
You mean like a shitty 24" 1080p 144Hz TN panel with 1ms response time?
Literally any of those on the list.


>WD Blacked
Literally why? No reason to get it over a blue.

>>62345443
May as well bump up to 1700. Would put you over the budget but only by ~$50, and is well worth it IMO. Pretty flamboyant RAM, maybe focus on getting something with better timing over the LEDs. Don't get a WD black, and you may as well get an m.2 over a 2.5" SSD. I don't see why you need an x370 mobo, doesn't seem like you'd be utilizing it, a b350 would be cheaper and still fit 99% of your needs

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>doing first build
>almost finish, plug it in to see if I've got something usable
>screen pops up
>decide to put off setting it up until I've finished and put in wifi card and optical drive
>do so and then try to plug it in again
>nothing comes up on the screen
This is pretty frustrating, I have no idea what fucked up. The GPU and motherboard's lights both light up so I would assume they're both fine, but I have no idea what needs fixed.

>>62345443
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DNhm9W

>>62345443
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLTz4C

-Drop the x370 board for a b350 board.
-Get the cheaper WD blue hdd, its for mass storage anyways

-I'd get the cryorig H7 cooler instead, but it looks like it's on purpose for a white/pink build?
-I'd get the EVGA G3 powersupply, it's the same price, but evga has much better warranty.

-Cool case though, never seen it before even though pink ain't my thing

Does anybody make a Beige case anymore? Want a kinda oldschool vibe, but with modern features like actual airflow.

>>62345606
Nope. Closest you'll get is a white case, and that's usually an extra charge.

I'm conflicted, /pcbg/ (Yes, I'm the anon that posted in /sqt/ too).

2x GTX 670 for $160 AUD (Unbranded, blower style)
1x GTX 670 for $100 AUD (Gainward, blower style)
1x GTX 780 for $175 AUD (Gigabyte triple fan)
1x GTX 780 Ti for $220 AUD (EVGA is all they say about it)
For the 600-series, no memory amounts are listed, so I'm waiting for responses from them about that. (Removed the 680 from my /sqt/ post, since in comparison to a cheaper 780, it didn't seem too worth it.) Also, I don't care that Kepler aged poorly, it still performs better than my 360 so I'll consider it.
For references, I'm on an R7 360, and GTX 1050 Ti is $250+shipping.

>>62345706
Why can't you buy another modern GPU?

Sup /pcbg/

Building a threadripper computer, out of the few tr4 chipset mobos that are out there, which is the best to use for overclocking and features? I was looking at the ROG ZENITH, but its so damn expensive!

>>62345706

I'd get the 780ti, it'll outperform the 1050ti while being cheaper.

>>62345706
honestly, You could buy an R9 390X and it's be better than all of them, assuming you could find one that isn't snatched up by miners.

>>62345505
What do you mean by timing?

>>62345745
Taichi

R9 280x for about $200
GTX 960 for about $175
R9 270(X) for about $100($120)
R9 290 for about $250

>>62345723
RX550 performs worse than my card.
RX460/560 are $150-200
RX470/570/480/580 are out of stock or inflated prices.
GTX1050 are about $160-200.
GTX1050Ti is about $250+shipping.
GTX1060 (both 3GB/6GB) is inflated.
All I was looking for was a better video card, while it being relatively cheap, so I'm resorting to used cards.
>>62345746
Yeah, definitely got it bookmarked.
>>62345780
A few R9 390(non-X) for $300, which is a bit out of the price range I was looking at for used. R9 380X for $200? 380 used to be comparable to GTX960, so the 380X should've aged pretty well, yeah?

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>>62345793

Those right there, the lower the better.

For example, for the same price this ram is faster

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232221&cm_re=g_skill_3200-_-20-232-221-_-Product

This ram below is the same speed but cheaper

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232391&cm_re=g_skill_3200-_-20-232-391-_-Product

Radeon 7850 1gb for $50 good deal?

>>62345960

I'd just save up more money dog

>>62345844
AMD graphics cards have a habit of aging line fine wine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eNVv2yhDVE&t=255s

>>62346011
is $50 too much for that card?

>>62345852
Not trying to be a smartass, but what's the difference? I get that faster RAM is good, but is 15-15-15-35 considered good RAM timing? Is 16-18-18-38 a bad RAM timing? Thanks for answering in the first place.

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>>62346020
>>62346044
Latency. Low latency means a smaller delay before transferring data.
Ryzen doesn't seem to care about latency though, just speed.
See AMD's RYzen chips are built in a unique way. Each CPU die has 2 CPU complexes or CCX's as AMD calls them> Each CCX contains 4 cores and 8 threads, These 2 CCX's communicate through AMD's Infinity Fabric. The infinity fabric is a sort of BUS that connects them. The bus speed of the ram directly affects how fast the infinity fabric runs. So fast ram means the CPU and communicate with itself faster, which makes massive performance gains with fast ram.

>>62346067
It also means that Ryzen is really fucking expensive to use optimally.

>>62346067
Infinity Fabric is such a silly name.

Would this make a good htpc? Thinking of just shoving a cheap ssd in it and calling it a day rather than building my own?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M93p-Tiny-320GB-HD-4GB-RAM-i5-4570t-2-9GHz-Wifi-Desktop-/272836568249?hash=item3f8653a4b9:g:8J4AAOSwxeBZsCjJ

How cheap can I go? How old of a proccesor can I get that can play 1080p video well? I was told to avoid core 2 duos.

>>62346020
>Not trying to be a smartass, but what's the difference?
Not very much unless you're doing something that's very sensitive to latency

>I get that faster RAM is good, but is 15-15-15-35 considered good RAM timing? Is 16-18-18-38 a bad RAM timing?
Depends on the clocks. What matters isn't actually CAS, but CAS/frequency. So if you have 2133MHz RAM, 15-15-15-35 is actually pretty bad, while if your RAM is running at 3200MHz, even 16-18-18-38 is very good.
Really, though, looking at the latency should almost always be secondary. If there's two otherwise identical kits, you should pick the one with lower latency. Otherwise, it's not really important.

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>>62346094
but also really cheap to manufacture and with exceptionally high yields. Have you SEEN the kind of profit margins AMD is pulling in with Ryzen?
To put it in perspective, an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X has an MSRP of $1000. It costs AMD about $120 to produce. AMD is making bank on Ryzen. No matter what Intel prices their chips at, AMD can undercut them and still make a profit.

>>62346236
So long as memory is available, sure. Intel may be setting up to kill the memory market and leave AMD floating face-down, what with their Optane shit.

>>62341517
I think you can max your stats and keep your sound volumes to a low for about $2,600. Most max gaming rigs hit around $2,000. Min-max builds for 120 FPS for streaming and gaming with no bottoenecks hit around $1,600.

Yes, you are doing it horribly wrong. You can still get a blue yeti mic and boom control too for cheap. I just don't think you have any idea how powerful overkill parts you picked are. No one will care if you spent $4,000 or $8,000. All anyone cares is if it cost more than. $1,000.

God there's so much more I want to type, let sound ambience being destroyed because of both liquid coolers which is worse than air cooled for the GPU, but you're just a money chucking moron who doesnt really seem to understand.

>>62346119
place I was working at last year had lenovo m73s but not the tiny versions just the small form factor mini-itx ones I think, looked pretty decent and I was considering picking myself up one for a htpc type thing

anything i series will do 1080p fine, even some c2ds will do 1080p if it's not insanely high bitrate, anything past sandy bridge is golden

>>62346387
Optane just uses a small SSD as a cache for an HDD to make it behave like an SSD. It won't replace ram anytime soon. It's not designed for that

>>62343475
Why wouldn't W10 be compatible?

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Is this normal?
Didn't tweak any memory timings and it runs at 3200 MHz.
And I wont get much performance boost in Cinebench between 2933 and 3200, just 1143 pts -> 1151 pts with R1600 stock clocks.
Memory speed was just a meme all the time?

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>>62346657
>It won't replace ram anytime soon
Today, true, it functions as RST 2.0
In the future? It will *supplement* RAM (ie, cut into the market) in both consumer and enterprise systems. Though 3D Xpoint may not always rely on "Optane" branding.
>It's not designed for that
Spoiler: 3D Xpoint was never really meant to be sitting on M.2, using storage block addressing as a drive and choked by PCIe latency. It was created first and foremost to be a memory extension in a memory slot, addressed directly by the CPU and invisible to the user.

The biggest application for this is in big data and enterprise, but we'll see the products filter through to regular joe consumers... eventually.

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>x4 640
>gtx 1050

Am I being bottlenecked here by the cpu or is this a good match? Csgo fag fwiw

>>62346724

I think you mean W7. Officially windows 10 does not support kaby lake.

>>62345436
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/15713-best-144hz-240hz-monitors.html

>>62340610
What's wrong with msi?

>>62346757
Memory speed matters more with a CPU bottleneck. A whole lot more sometimes. If you have a GPU bottleneck it probably won't mean shit.

I just need help choosing a monitor for about £200 /g/.

Would it be possible to get one at 27-30 inches and a decent contrast and look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6T84zM

babies' first overclocking. I dunno what I'm doing. I downloaded Ryzen Master and pushed the Speed (Mhz) up, and my 1700 is sitting on 3.9Ghz at 1.1875V. Speccy is indicating temperatues that fluctuate between 58C and 60C. Is this good?

>>62347187
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ntVGQV

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsRg9W
thoughts?

>>62347215
went up to 86C when running CPU Mark. That seems hot, but it's with the stock cooler so I guess that's normal?

>>62347308
1060s are way overpriced.
Everything is, but 1060s and 580s are really bad.

>>62347308
>(1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory

>>62347332
RAM is expensive today, and he can always upgrade in the future.

>>62347324
>1060s are way overpriced.
It's expensive, but $270 for a 6GB 1060 isn't really that bad.

>>62347215
>>62347313
not only is that normal, it's pretty darn good. You are limited by your cooler atm to go any higher, but that's a pretty low voltage for Ryzen. A lot of people need 1.3v or higher for 3.9ghz.
I always recommend BIOS overclocking over software in os though.
>>62347344
I'd rather spend like $10 more for a board with 4 dimm slots to not get cucked with single channel. Better boards usually have a better sound chip too. And to the anon that made the list, get a b350 mobo in case you want to overclock later.

Is there a guide or advice around on how to build a machine intended for cryptographic use? The hardware and undetectable firmware backdoors introduced by intel have my tinfoil hat crinkled tighter every day. Consumer products are shit to me. Manufacturers are both capable of and invested in controling the hardware they distribute

Is it possible to buid a knowably secure machine to perform my crypto on? It's OK if it's slow or external to my work station.

>>62347421
Thanks man. Sounds like I got a decent chip.

I've bought a H100i v2, but waiting on the AM4 mount for it.

>>62347450
If you don't already know the answers, your work probably isn't sensitive enough that it matters.

>>62347506
Or maybe I'm just unable to work due to not having the tools necessary ._.

Gotta start somewhere

>>62337523
I want to replace my radeon HD7950 by the cheapest card just above in performance
Which would you advice?

>>62346013
>Using a 390 in place of a 290
780 isn't getting the driver support it should and it completely shits itself in some new games, but against a 290 it would have actually won a few of those benchmarks.

>>62347613
get something used. Gtx 950s, 960s are pretty piss cheap. I see 960s about $110 on my local Craigslist often. Gtx 770 similar. For some reason, retards seem to think a gtx 760 is still worth around $100. I think a used gtx 950 is your best bet. Used Radeons are hard to find rn.

>wiki is dead
rip wiki

>>62337559
better option than the G4560, but fucking seriously, just get a Ryzen 3 instead

>>62347860
oh, and you would need to overclock a 950 for it to outpace your 7950. If you want an actual upgrade, go for a 960 and oc that puppy.

>>62347919
The advantage is that it's dirt cheap, has iGPU and it's on AM4

>>62347964
>MUH UPGRADE PATH
exactly what sort of upgrades do you envision if you can't even find $100 for a 1200

>>62347988
this. Hurr I'm going to upgrade my ultra budget shitbox in two years.
Except, if you have more income in two years, you'll find yourself in a position where your original machine is nearly obsolete, relative to what you can afford. You will be tempted to hawk off the whole thing and start from scratch.
Buy according to your current needs.

>>62347988
1200 has no iGPU you stupid faggot.

>>62347860
>>62347940
I'll check the local offer and see if there is a good deal
But if we are talking brand new card, which is in my demand?

>>62348072
the only thing you can get is a gtx 1050, which is essential tied with the 7950. But yeah, find a 960 if you can.
7950 is a decent card. You should only be replacing it for a more substantial upgrade, or if your card is literally dying.

>>62348122
>if your card is literally dying
Bingo
I would have wait for the next gen GPU before considering changing it but the card is 90% dead, I even try to repair it but without sucess
So I'll go for a 1050/ti brand new or try to snatch a good 960/70 used deal
Thanks anon

>>62341460
they rather bomb AMD quarters like Israel did with Palestinians rather than compete like a normal human begin


okay time to go back to /pol/

>>62337523
what does /g/ think about link rel ?
i wanted to build compact PC
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/core-series/core-500

What's the difference between the generi Asus 1080Ti and the Astrix version?

>>62346870
But I'm running Kabylake on W10... (i5-7600k)

I don't understand.

>>62348288
Strix version probably has more fans and a slightly higher base clock
Plus, it has a stupid name attached to it (seriously, who picked shit like "Strix" and "Aorus") so they can charge you more money for it

RATE MY DIRT CHEAP GAYMEN BUILD PLS

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6fMTKZ

I have a i5-2500k from 2011, should I OC it or get a new CPU?

t. total noob

How does Amazon ship inside a country? Do they just leave it at customs or do they pay a national courier to bring it straight to me out of their shipping fee? Also do I have to pay VAT if I buy in the EU from Britain after Brexit?

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>>62348391

>>62348395
>4c/4t
Upgrade. Moar coars is the future. AMD was right.

>>62348395
time to upgrade, brah

>>62347215
There's no chance you're on 1.1875V for 3.9 GHz. The voltage reading on Ryzen master always indicates the base one (which is exactly 1.1875V) if you change the voltage manually, no matter the actual value. Use something else like HWMonitor for that.

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>>62348429
>>62348453
Yeah this thing is about to blow up any second anyway

I'm planning on building a PC with a budget of 1100$, should I wait until black Friday or it doesn't matter.
PS: if you can help me with a build I will be thankful.
PS2: I am living in 3rd world country so I will probably buy from Amazon.

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>>62348626
>62°C minimum

>>62348406
pls respond

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>>62348672
no problem it's been like that for years, hopefully it'll kill take out my neighbors too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDjBCy should I downgrade to 1050 ti if I am using 1080p 60hz monitor

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>>62348359
thanks m8

Why is it that laptops are more capable of sustaining extreme temps but in desktops shit gets real when your temp exceeds 80-85c?

>>62348769
my desktop has been at 90 for years and it runs ok

>>62348750
yes, 1050 ti will be plenty for 1080p 60fps.

use the saved money for better ram or psu

>>62348769
Because desktops have more airflow so if they're getting that hot something is wrong. Laptops are expected to cause house fires, it's a part of the package.

>>62348734
They use a courier. The VAT you pay is based on the EU country you're buying from (i.e. if you buy from the UK you only pay UK VAT, if you buy from Germany you only pay Germany VAT etc). Brexit isn't a thing yet so you can still buy from EU shops without paying customs. They'll jew you out in the £ to € conversion tho.

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See what happens when I load a youtube video

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how far can it go

>>62348877
>The VAT you pay is based on the EU country you're buying from
No, it's based on the EU country you're located in. For instance, I recently bought most of my new computer from amazon.de, but I still paid VAT to Finland.

>>62348635
Maybe something like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4L7GQV

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>>62348877
>>62348931
Fuck you're right, i was confusing it. Should have remembered it since i paid 22% VAT instead of 19% from Germany just last month.

>>62348879
Shit dude

>>62348897
SHIT DUDE

Am I missing out on a lot by not overclocking my ram from 2133mhz (Ryzen)? OCing the ram seems like a pain in the ass

Poorfag here. I built my PC 4 years ago and fell for the AMD meme. So currently my motherboard only supports the AM3+ chipset. I'm running a FX-6300 and was debating if I should scoop a FX-8350 since it's so cheap and based on what I've seen benchmark wise looks pretty sweet. I don't really want to get a new motherboard anytime soon to hop on the intel train, since it'll cost me a lot more than I'm able to spend.

>>62349208
RAM kit?

>>62348983
Ahh yes it's certainly a good start, maybe I'll try to push my budget and an 1700

>>62349208
All you have to do to overclock RAM is click two buttons in your BIOS you lazy fuck.
Just buy a 3200 kit if your using Ryzen, Infinity Fabric or whatever.

>>62349232
Fuck no, just come into the future, my man.

What are the generally trusted places to go for benchmarks?

>>62349232
Only if you could be certain to sell your 6300 to offset the cost.
Otherwise you would be spending a minimum of $50 (the lowest I've seen 4 module Bulldozer) for a measly +1 module.

Starting a new Build for Coffee Lake. Should I keep the gtx 970 and wait for a new card or just go for a 1070/1080?

>>62350674
I'd keep the 970 until the mining calms down.

I'm trying to install windows via a USB on my new system and I can't find the USB on the bios so I can't get the comp to set it as the default boot device - Help?

>>62350424

Gamers Nexus, unbiased and explains his testing

>>62350832
Just start hitting F11 at the bios splash screen, should give you options to boot it.

>>62350849
Jon snow a good reviewer.

Are there sphere cases? I want a game sphere.

>>62350674
Nobody is sure exactly what Coffee Lake's situation is. Nothing wrong with following rumors, but wait for reviews.

>>62342824
BUMP

not exactly related to pcs, but what is the ultimate neckbeard desk chair? my fat ass is destroying my current chair after only 2 years. the fake leather is flaking off and it's wobbly as fuck.

>>62350859
Nothing happens when I do that.

>>62350979
Try sticking it in a different port, like one one the motherboard, or a usb 2.0 port on the board's got one, I know my windows 7 install didn't like to be booted from usb 2.0 and wouldn't see my hard drives, but it worked fine on a usb 2.0 board port.

Why the fuck are nvidia cards so expensive, they're shit at mining! REEEE

>>62351045
It's the way it's meant to be played, Goyim.

>>62351045
doesnt mean shit
theyre the only alternative so they can get away with charging just as much or just a little less

Are 75hz monitors worth it? Even the cheapest 144hz is too expensive for me.

>>62351107
I'd get high res 1440p monitor than meme monitor for me.

>>62351045
You are dumb enough to deserve your suffering.

>>62351133
Both require a good GPU and OP is too poor to even afford the cheapest 144hz monitor.

>>62351133
that's even more expensive

>>62351022
Well it just randomly decided to work after changing back to the first port I used. Thanks anyway.

does Bristol ridge have psp?

J-just wait guys. T-the 56 might beat a 1060 after FineWine haha! https://youtu.be/NdhJsU_p5nQ

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buying ASUS motherboard + ASUS gpu

I need a fast 2.5" SSD. High capacity isn't important (only need 100-200GB), just speed and, if possible, reliability. What brand/model should I get?

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>>62351387
>buying Corsair PSU with Corsair case

>>62351413
850 EVO

>>62351356
>Stock vs OC
>AssCreed
0/10

>>62351470
>damage controlling this hard

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Do those things work well?
Somehow I doubt you'll get a stronger pressure than butane aerosol bottles.

>>62351413
If you want raw speed then you might be interested in a M.2 instead of SATA.

750D airflow or normal ed?

>>62351501
Saves money over long run.
Also better for environment.

>>62351517
Neither, Cooler Master Cosmos II.

>>62351501
they dont get the same pressure at all

>>62351543
>Cooler Master Cosmos II
It's over twice the price where I am

>>62351586
And? Do you live in a third world country?

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>>62351624
I don't plan on spending the price of a high-end cpu on a case when spend it on a lot of other things

>>62351502
It's actually for my Thinkpad, so it has to be SATA.

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>>62346570

Look I came here for advice, i know I'm not as well versed about this stuff as you guys are and thats why I'm asking. I realize that you're talking down to a retard here, but I'd really appreciate it if you could break down my build and tell me where/why I should change things to save some cash. No one wants to spend more than they have to, but I do want to get top notch performance.

I only buy a new computer every 10 years or so, so I want to make sure whatever I get now will be robust enough to hold it's own with minimal upgrades.

here's my current build, with a little change in the ram dept because I learned a bit about
timing from reading this thread/a few other websites.

this is my current build so far (been stressing over this for days)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqt9gL

I'd also like to thank >>62346938 and >>62345852 for the new info

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When I try to install windows it tries for a minute then shows this screen?

>>62351776
Heart rate picked up when I saw the price point. Also why don't you just pirate windows?

>>62351776
>everything about this build
m8 start again and aim for a build 1/4th of the price, it's simply not worth buying the bestest stuff

Is it worth installing 2 extra exhaust fans on the bottom of my Define R5 and adding a side intake? Which fans should I get?

>>62351776
>1080ti
>1080p
Mine pulls 1440p 165Hz easily.

>>62351776
Change your paste for NT-H1

What is /pcbg/ opinion on coffeelake?

>>62351960
looks like shit desu

>>62351920
Too much airflow in the wrong places can negatively affect temps. Check to make sure sticking fans in weird places actually helps.

>>62351776
You've said that your build is mainly for e-sports.
Your build is about 8 times as expensive as it needs to be, and I'm not exaggerating.

It's your money, but in my opinion, you are literally throwing away $4K USD. At a *minimum*. I don't know how much money you make a year, but it's stupid no matter the sum.

>>62351960
Whatever it would be, it's not relevant since it hasn't been released, and nobody can discuss it with certainty.

>>62351776
>buying Windows
Stop that.

>>62351990
The air would be coming in from the front and side and exiting from the back and bottom. The CPU cooler blows towards the back and the GPU fan obviously blows downward.

>>62351855
mine too. It's a 'work pc' so pirating windows would be bad.

>>62351903
I wish I could, but then I wouldn't get the performance I'm looking for. Namely using the threadripper to it's utmost for multitasking video encoding, streaming, and gaming simultaneously.

>>62351990
>mainly for esports
yeah, but esports and streaming simultaneously. I've been honestly contemplating the threadripper vs something like a ryzen 7 1800X, which between the actual cpu, and the mobo, would save me at least 500 bucks, but then I'd lose the ability to multitask while encoding videos.

Trust me, it makes me physically ill to think about dropping that much cash (quite literally two months of work down the drain) but I really want to make a go of professionally streaming.

>>62352029
Having hot air exit the bottom of the case immediately sends a red flag up in my head. The hot air should be ideally exiting the rear and top, not bottom.
I'm not an airflow guru. Check guides online for airflow before you potentially make a mistake.

>>62352065
No one needs a fucking threadripper for streaming, that's retarded. Modern GPUs make streaming almost effortless already.
And you will never use more than 16GB RAM unless you work with professional video (and I mean really professional, hollywood shit). You're LITERALLY throwing money away on frivolous shit you will never use. Don't even think about buying this shit.

Just a quick search already gives me a build with the GTX 1080 for 1/3rd of the price while still being far more than you will ever need for streaming OW or CS:GO for example.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/pc-builds/2777-high-end-144hz-gaming-pc-build-with-7700k

Buying overpriced crap won't make you less shit at games.

>>62352187
Well he did say
>multitasking video encoding, streaming, and gaming simultaneously
So a Threadripper is fine. It's the best choice for video encoding, streaming and gaming SIMULTANEOUSLY.

>>62352187
That piece of shit 7700k barely handles streaming+gaming and chokes like a little bitch.

>>62352287
It sure is the "best choice", but is it the best cost-benefit choice? No, it would be even cheaper to just buy a second PC purely for video encoding or he could just not be retarded and encode videos when he's not playing and I doubt he ever will need to encode shit for very long anyway, raw video encodes are pretty very fast and the biggest time bottleneck is in aftereffects shit which isn't very popular in game videos anyway, I worked editing wedding videos and the 3 min "best moments" reel takes as long as the entire 3+ hour full DVD.