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Acer XF270HUA IPS 1440p 140hx Freesync Monitor

Is it worth it for RX Vega 64?

>>62245202

I would dude, the ideal 1440p/144hz monitor imo. Has best design with the slim bezel.

>>62245202
Monitor might be, vega is not worth it tho.

Okay. Revised. Requesting advice.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ljx7xY

>>62245283

Why buy a 7700k if you buy shit GPU?

Reposting from old thread

Ive heard things about Ryzen gradually becoming better for gaming as time goes on. Any tangible evidence to really support that? Im assuming this is reliant on game devs making games utilize more cores.

Im still debating on 7700k and R7 1700 for gaming (will be OCing w/ an aftermarket cooler)

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>>62245296
I have a GTX 745. I had been saving money for a video card when the 7700K fell into my lap. That build is my attempt to make the 7700K work. I'm also still debating selling it and using the $300 to set up a Ryzen 1200 build.

I just don't know.

>>62245320
if you feel confident you can sell it quickly and easily, and arent afraid of ebay/craigstlist then i would do that, but rather than getting a 1200 get a 1600. the 300 will pay for a 1600 and a motherboard, and you'll get slightly better performance in game and be free to stream as well if you want, as well as the fact that you wont have to upgrade for as long
compared to the 7700k, you have a platform that you can wait 4 years and pop a brand new cpu in and probably be fine for another 5 after that, whereas with any new intel chip you'll need a new motherboard

>>62245318
Forgot to mention this is for a 1440p 144hz build

>>62245320
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ljx7xY

This will work dude, just get 2x8gb rather than 1x 16gb. Ram is dual channel, it'll work better in sets. When you get the chance grab a 1050ti or a 1060 and you're pretty much set for 1080p gaming. You could even drop to 8gb of ram and use those funds towards the gpu. Enjoy that 7700k.

>>62245318
not just game devs utilizing more cores but also patches and updates to existing games to better use ryzen. there are also some scheduling issues in windows iirc, similar to the 8350 when it first launched, so that could get better there. motherboard support and performance is also getting better, which is really helping in some cases. a 1700 with 3600mhz ram matches or beats a 7700k in many cases, even in high refresh rate gaming
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Rise-Tomb-Raider-Gets-Ryzen-Performance-Update
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/252576-latest-round-ryzen-bios-updates-improves-performance-adds-features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA
other ryzen advantages - double the cores for the money so you can do something in the background and not cripple performance, need less expensive cooler for overclock, you dont have to delid ryzen to not have a literal housefire

>>62245318
Pretty sure no one recommends 1700 for just pure gaming. Imo if you're just gonna game go for 7700k or wait for 8700k.

>>62245318

I'd go with the 7700k or the 1600. The 1600 and 1700 perform virtually the same, just the 1700 has more cores/threads.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide

The 7700k is only slightly better at gaming, not worth $100 imo. Honestly though both are good chips i'm sure you won;t be disappointed with either.

>>62245391
>You could even drop to 8gb of ram
And you just allowed me to find a price error. Thank you.

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https://www.amazon.com/BCP-Adhesive-Thermal-Conductive-Heatsink/dp/B01MSL64XG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1504515992&sr=8-5&keywords=Thermal+tape

Will this tape be good enough to hold small heatsinks on vram/mofsets without coming off?

I'm going to install the Accelero Xtreme 3 on my gpu, but don't want to use the provided thermal epoxy

>>62245471
Newegg has a single entry of DDR4 @ 2400mhz on sale for pre-fuckcrazy prices.

Don't share this knowledge.

Can get a asus 4g rx560 for cheap, how much do these usually OC? I want to squeeze everything out of it.

Before I pull the trigger, this is an insanely good deal and I'm not just tired as fuck, right? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233982

>>62245669
yep, its a good deal

>>62245510
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it should be, but i would use the thermal epoxy included. i did on my 1080ti and ive had no problems whatsoever

>>62245743

I'm more so concerned with my warranty. Evga is cool with aftermarket coolers, but i'm not sure they're cool with glue on shit like the vram. I'd rather just have to take off some thermal pads.

>>62245793
honestly im not sure if the pads will hold, i know the epoxy will. they should be fine with that, given that it's usually assumed you're going to put a waterblock on

are Zotac's shit? I'm looking at the 1050 ti, seems to be about 10 bucks cheaper than the rest

Posted that $39.99 8GB stick RAM deal elsewhere after giving you all the heads up earlier. If you want it, get it sooner than later.

Not sure how long before SlickDeals finds and posts it. It'll fucking vanish.

>>62245814
zotac is usually pretty good, their 1080ti a shit though
totally depends on card, for a 1050ti it really shouldnt matter

>>62245814
Yeah their Ti is fine. I got one, it's in the mail for now, but the reviews are good. It's not like you can really fuck up a cooler for a 75W card.

>>62246030

Msi did, their armor edition 1080ti overheats and tends to throttle because the cooler was shit. Zotac ones are usually fucking beefy, but good though.

>>62246030
>>62246082

nvm just reread this, you;re talking about the 1050ti

>>62246082
glad you realized you fucked up about the 1080ti vs. 1050ti conversation, but for the record the zotac cooler is bery beefy, but noiser that it should be, less efficient than other smaller, quieter solutions, and lacks a direct connection to the main cooler for the VRM, all things that the other models of 1080 TI all feature.

Updated bits-of-string 7700K build plans.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KG9VNN

>>62246282
Meme cooler. Get something better. Single fan radiator coolers are garbage.
Case is garbage.
Get a SSD.

>>62246282
It'll work but don't expect much if any overclocking with an H55.

>>62246282
>no money and a GT740
>better get 16GB of RAM

>>62246315
>>62246320
It's called a bits-of-string build because I have like $200 to do it. I just spent $80 of that $200 on RAM.

>>62246331
$40 per 8GB stick. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233982

>>62246282
I was going to tell you to just use the stock cooler, but of course the 7700k doesn't come with one.
I'd get a decent air cooler instead of a cheap AIO honestly. A Hyper 212 EVO is half of the price and will cool just as well as that AIO.

>>62246282
Get a Be Quiet Dark Rock 2 instead of the H55. It might actually have a chance at keeping the 7700K cool. Get an SSD and not shit case if you can afford.

>>62245318
Go for the 1700 or save money and go for the 1600 (very little difference in games)
Both perform similar to intel in games and demolish the 7700k in any paralell workloads
They also run cooler and have an actual upgrade path
And the 1600 is also far cheaper

>>62246343
Then get a H7 instead of a shit cooler.
It is cheaper and will do the job just as well.

>>62246282

You already had the h55 right? Not the best cooler, but you'll still get a nice moderate/mild overclock. If you haven't bought it yet, consider something like the cryorig H7. Great price on that ram.

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Guy from last thread here

Using their build-a-PC thing, I checked Cyberpower's PCs, and came up with this list of parts. The subtotal is like $1,341. This is with a few special Labor day deals going on. Would you say this is a good deal for a filthy casual that just wants a prebuilt? Considering the sum of the price of parts would still probably be in the quad digits...

>>62246458
I don't have any cooler. The whole using-not-the-stock-fan thing is new to me.

I had heard good things about the H55, but only second hand. Good to have more data on the table.

>>62246508
Garbage.

So if I'm looking for a quiet cooling solution for that 7700K, what should I be looking at? The biggest monster-fanned bastard CLC available?

>>62246508
Dude
You can get better prebuilts on Newegg for far less money.

>>62246508
if you switch the cpu to the 7700k then maybe just maybe it flies, but honestly not really a good deal
there's no reason to buy an i5 right now, even the k series chips

>>62246508
This is shit.

>>62246508

If you can find a place that does ryzen cpu, it's not worth going Intel unless you go for the 7700k. Powersupply is also overkill. What's your goal here? 1070 is a 1440p card

>>62246612
Air cooling is quiet. A single big fan moves a lot of air without spinning fast.
With an AIO you'll have the noise of the pump too.

>>62246647

I just don't want to get tricked into buying a video card that isnt any better than my current (failing) one.

What's a good Nvidia video card thats better than the 780? Besides 980. 1050? My resolution is 2560x1600 and I'd like to at least max Fallout 4 and possibly have some future proofing.

>>62246644
>>62246628
>>62246622
>>62246574

Okay.

>>62246721
>My resolution is 2560x1600 and I'd like to at least max Fallout 4 and possibly have some future proofing.

GTX 1080 Ti. Get out your wallet.

I'm getting a 2nd GTX670 for free soon, gonna try to SLI it in my aging rig. What kind of performance should I expect at 1080p? Like what modern GPU equivalent? It's hard to find those kinds of benchmarks.

Does i3 4160 can take gtx 1080 or it will be too big bottleneck?

>>62246721
the 1050 is lower than the 1050ti, which is on par with a 680, which is slower than the 780. a 1060 would be a bit faster, say 10-20%, and a 1070 would be significantly faster, say 30-40%

>>62246721
>2560x1600
only card that'll max games at that res is the 1080 TI. Be prepared to pay top dollar my dude

>>62246752
that is going to bottleneck the living shit out of that card, especially for high refresh gaming

>>62246721
You can save a fortune by getting a GTX 1060 instead.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2164vs3639

>>62246781
not if he wants to max fallout 4 at 1600p

>>62246779
Ok, but i5 4690 will be enough to reduce bottleneck or not?

>>62246657
>With an AIO you'll have the noise of the pump too.
I hadn't even considered that. I thought it would be some slow circulation thing where it wouldn't even be audible.

>>62246743
>>62246753
>>62246769
>Check prices
Wew. I don't think I want a 1080 ti that bad.

>>62246781
>>62246753

Hmm. I guess its either 1060 or 1070. Perhaps maxed isn't the right word, but 1060 is definitely better than what I have now. My old CPU was also bottlenecking my 780, so maybe I'll just get a 1060 with a decent CPU. I'm totally fine with turning down godrays and shit.

>>62246805
an overclocked 4690k would do well, a 4690 will help a lot, but you'll still have some bottleneck

>>62246721

>2560x1600

Damn nice resolution, you probably want the 1070 for that resolution. A 1060 would be more of a side grade than anything. Future proof is odd, you're 780 is still a good card for 1080p for example. 1070 will probably be fine, if you have to, you can always just lower settings a bit down the line. If you can't do that compromise go with a 1080 I guess.

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Finally got my new parts. Now to assemble everything!

>>62246837
>Hmm. I guess its either 1060 or 1070.
You're getting fucked either way, as the good 1060 is currently double the normal price due to miners.

In a sane world, this is pretty much the basic price tiering.

1050 Ti: ~$130

1060 3GB: ~$175

1060 6GB: ~$200

1070: ~$300

1080: ~$450

We no longer exist in a sane world.

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>mfw PC assembled and everything (finally) seems to be working right, but now I have to do cable management because the side panel literally won't close

>>62246815

I have an X52, and the pump is louder than both the fans.

Hey guys
eurofag here. I'm trying to build a gaming pc on a budget (500 eurodollarz)
Justa question: would you recommend a gtx 1060 3GB or GTX 1050Ti 4GB? The proc will be AMD Ryzen 1300x...
Also, is there a site ti compare becnhmark in order to understand what's better for my purpose (gaming with settings on high - who cares about ultra tier - with "recent" games like the witcher 3 or GTA5 or GhostRecon Wildlands).
What vga would you recommend between these two and why?

>>62246899
Well that sounds like a big fucking oversight.

>>62246897
Cable management is fun!

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My friend wanted to get his son (15) his own gaming computer, I told him I would help him build one but he decided to just buy one online instead, he says he'll mainly be playing WoW/Overwatch and shit like that


https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Phantom-Gamer-WA501i-Desktop-PC-Intel-Kaby-Lake-Core-i5-7400-Quad-Core-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-GTX1050-2GB-Windows-10-Home-Moni/52130981#read-more

Think it'll be able to handle those games? He said it would be able to on high/ultra 60+ FPS at 1080p, but I want to know what you guys think first

And yes, I told him a million times would be easier/cheaper to just buy the parts and build it himself, even offered to do it for him but he wouldn't take no for an answer, doesn't see the big deal in just buying a pre-built computer

>>62246721
>My resolution is 2560x1600 and I'd like to at least max Fallout 4 and possibly have some future proofing.
1080. You don't need the Ti for 60fps.
1070 would do but you'll have to turn down some things in some games. It would still run like a champ though.

>>62246744
You won't gain anything, almost nothing supports SLI.

>>62246744
SLI/Crossfire a shit
don't fall for the meme

>>62246859
Neato. 1600? What are your case and GPU?

I've been doing research on cases and was wondering if you guys have experience with Fractal Design's Arc Midi. I want something spacious without being huge.

>>62246908
>The proc will be AMD Ryzen 1300x...
Get a 1200. Once overclocked, it's literally the same as a 1300X. And I'm not making shit up, I mean literally the same.
If you can get an RX580 or a 1060 6GB for a good price, go for that. Only get a 1060 3GB if it's a really good deal - it's not the best card because of the low amount of VRAM, and the GPU itself is slower than that of the 6GB (10% less cores).

>>62246939
Well it's free :(

>>62246919

Comon bruh, we know it's for you.

What made you want this? It was the rainbow leds huh?

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>>62246947
1700, and my case is an HAF HX EVO that I got two weeks ago. GPU is gonna be my old 380X until I get a 1080 next month.

I'm slowly doing a complete overhaul of my old PC. I got 5 drives to carry over and some bays and things so I wanted a case that could house all of those, and a mobo with enough slots as well.
I'm also slowly getting new peripherals, soon new screen (144hz) and headphones.

>>62247006
Nope, not for me, promise, I personally don't think it's that bad of a computer, just wanted some more opinions on it.

>>62246886
>>62246923

Bah. Whats a miner and why would it make them expensive? Would the price go down soon?

Also I think...I'll get a 1070. Strangely enough my PC's 780 seems to have no problems at all with youtube videos and the like, it only has issues in 3D games. I'm wondering if its actually the video card, or a voltage issue.

If there's nothing wrong with my computer I might just wait before springing on getting a new one. Do you guys know what the best things to do to test a video card are? Besides Furmark. Or how to test a PSU?

>>62246919
That's overpriced, but it will play those games. Not even ultra for overwatch with a 1050.

This PC is faster, and quite a bit cheaper:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zd3rkT
This PC is quite a lot better for games, and the same price:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2MqG8K

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Droyt/saved/r4PxYJ

Any advice? This build is primarily for gaming and some light photo editing. The game that I'm planning on running are: Destiny 2, Monster Hunter World, PUBG and the .hack//GU remaster. I'm building this in Japan, but I will be importing the GPU.

I'm thinking about switching the 1700 for a 1600, as I've heard the 1700 isn't necessary for gaming. I'm wondering if the 1600 will bottleneck the GTX 1080 at all? I'd also like to emulate using PCSX2 and cemu, would the 1700 make any difference in that department? I understand that Intel is better for both gaming and emulation, but I don't want to wait for coffee lake to release. I'd like to build this before the end of September.

The monitor is shit, any recommendations sub-$300 would be appreciated. My knowledge of what makes a good monitor is pretty limited.

>>62246977
>Once overclocked
You mean the """boost""" settings as written in the description of the product? I'm not familiar with overclocking procedure 'cause i've never done one before.
>1060 3GB "good deal"
I can get one for 200 euros. 1060 6GB will be 330 euros and RX580 seems too expensive 'cause can't find one for less than 370 euros

>>62247007
Oh you're that guy with the weird case. Makes sense if you have a ton of drives. Happy building.

>>62247032
A proper PSU shouldn't even turn on unless it detects that it is plugged into a motherboard via two of the power pins cycling a signal out and back
A lot of PSUs now come with a "tester" which plugs onto the end of your mobo cable and shorts those two wires, simulating the presence of a mobo, so you can at least figure out if it's a complete dud
Beyond that, you'll have to actually connect it to components to make sure the wires and connectors all work, that it will function at load, etc etc

>>62247058
It's kinda ugly and really big but it's grown on me.
I plan on buying even more drives soon as well, mostly for work (do lots of video editing so need hefty room to keep all my stuff in it).
Someone needs to design a lower profile case with more than just 3 drive bays.

And thanks!

>>62247032
>Whats a miner and why would it make them expensive? Would the price go down soon?
cryptocurrency (like bitcoin) can be gaines by using your graphics card to process transactions. A new cryptocurrency, Ethereum, rose up significantly, and unlile BTC can only be mined efficiently with consumer GPUs. So some people bought dozens of cards to run them 24/7 and make a small amount of money, so supply dried up and prices shot up.
Right now the only cards that are not ridiculously overpriced are 1050/Ti and 1080/Ti.

>>62247032
>Bah. Whats a miner and why would it make them expensive? Would the price go down soon?

Cryptocurrency miners. Many cryptocurrencies use raw computing power to work through cryptography to generate a limited supply of the digital currency, allowing early adopters to amass large sums of it that can then potentially be worth actual money as they try to play it as being a legitimate token for transactions.

Where it was originally intended to use CPU cycles, and where the most successful known as Bitcoin has already run itself out to where you need specialized hardware to do anything due to a scaling difficulty requiring exponentially more computing power to generate more of the currency, others have arose that make use of GPU power. This has led to normies going out and buying all the video cards to string them together in poorly ventilated "mining rigs" in pursuit of e-shekels.

The AMD RX 570 and RX 580 are supposed to be $150 and $180 options. They're currently $300 and $350 because they're particularly good at doing the math, meaning the miners poach and scalp them.

>>62247032


Crypto miners, like bitcoin and shit. Basically these fucks build computers that solve algorithms all day and it makes them $$$

>>62247048
>I'm thinking about switching the 1700 for a 1600
That's what I was going to say. The 1600 performs exactly the same in games, and photo editing doesn't need massive power, so you don't need the 1700. And no, it won't bottleneck a 1080 Ti, so neither will it the 1080.
If I remember correctly, Cemu only uses two to three cores, at least right now, so the two extra cores of the 1700 would do literally nothing for you there. Not sure about PCSX2 but I don't doubt the 1600 will run it absolutely fine.

Other than that your build looks good. You can avoid spending that much on a Windows licence, either by installing but not activating it (but it leaves a watermark on the screen), pirating it, or buying a cheap key online on sites like Kinguin (it's legit, and like $30).

>>62247094
This also means you don't want to buy used video cards, as the market is flooded with cards that were ran at 100% and poorly overclocked and left at 100% for 24/7 until they started having diminishing returns.

>>62247038
My friend is hellbent on saying it will run Overwatch on ultra, you don't think it would?

Those are some nice builds, maybe I can convince him to cancel the order and buy those parts instead.

>>62247115

1050 is a weak card. 1060 would get him there

>>62247094
>>62247082

My computer's video card picked a bad time to break on me, holy shit. And just last week I had to take my car to the shop, too.

>>62247077

My GPU is probably just dying. I've got it connected to a battery and maybe the battery could be faulty but with my luck, its probably the video card...eh, I needed a new PC setup anyway.

>>62247135
Get a 1050 Ti on sale. Wait things out. Settle with less for the time being.

Only advice I can give you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rWcLZ8

Gaming build.

Requesting optimizations on price.

>>62247056
No I mean actual overclock. Both the 1200 and 1300X have "boost", which will do an automatic overclock under load. The X's is higher, which is where the better stock performance comes from.
But once you overclock those CPUs (which is not hard, if you've read up on it a little), the boost disappears (since your base clock is higher than that boosted one anyway), and they both perform the same. And the OC limit on them is the same, 3.9 to 4.1GHz.

>I can get one for 200 euros.
I wouldn't pay more than that for a 3GB. Those are absurd prices for a 1060 6GB and a RX580, so don't get that.
I can buy a 1060 6GB for 226€ right now in France, so that's worth it, but prices aren't the same in every country sadly.

>>62247149
change cpu cooler for a cryorig h7 or similar, it will perform just as well as the aio, cheaper, quieter, less likely to fail

>>62247111

>>62247111
Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely switch to the 1600. Normally I would pirate windows, but my only other computer died not too long ago. I'll check out that other site. Cheers!

>>62247144

I'll wait things out, I guess.

Has this crypto currency thing been going on for a while or is it going to die down and have video cards returning to normal prices?

>>62247115
You know what, I checked and the 1050 can run it on ultra.
Still, my first build is actually faster and more than $100 cheaper, and it will run more demanding games a bit better too.

>>62247149
don't buy an aftermarket cpu cooler.

>>62247191
It started in what, May? And it is going to die down, because ETH will remove the resistance to ASIC and the miners will go back to dedicated mining hardware... But we don't know when that will be. And prices won't just drop in a day back to MSRP.
The market will be flooded with used cheap GPUs that have been run 24/7 however, so if you're ready to take a gamble on used hardware, there may be deals to be had there.

>>62247217
Well dang, I'm surprised, so overall I guess he got his kid a decent computer.

>>62247151
Thank you very much!

>>62247306
Oh yeah it's not shit. It won't run the very demanding games in higher settings, but for esports shit or mmos it's totally fine. He just overspent a little.

>>62247314
Yeah his kid is just a teen so I don't think he's going to be playing anything crazy like witcher or some shit, thanks.

>>62247302
eth cant be moved to ASIC like other coins in the past
eth will however move to POS with the metropolis update, whenever vitalek decides the world is ready for that

>>62245202
you dont need that many hz for a vega
shit will barely scrape 70 on 1440p

>>62247365
Whoops my bad. I don't actually know how all this works and I'm just regurgitating things I read here and there, so I'm getting things mixed up.
But the conclusion is the same then, the miners will move to dedicated hardware?

>>62247379
no. POS= Proof of stake, basically interest. you will no longer be able to mine ethereum, ever again
the problem is now the entire crypto market has grown by over 1500% since the start of the year, and there are plenty of coins that are profitable to mine other than ethereum. nothing is stopping miners from switching/continuing to mine/buy something like zec, up 1000%, xmr, up 100%+, or any other number of coins. ETH isnt even the most profitable coin to mine more often than not these days, coins using the same algorithm often are, or coins using another algo like zec, zen, xmr, hush, etc. are all very profitable as well
this isnt like the litecoin/bitcoin boom in 2013, this time the market is worth over 150 billion, as opposed to 2-4 billion. The market has no less than 10 viable, profitable coins at a time. this is the new normal in many ways, at least until the crypto "bubble" breaks. But bear in mind people have been saying this is a bubble since btc hit 1400, it hit 4900 the other day.
The solution to all this is to buy the best gpu you can afford, and mine yourself to offset the cost, if you cant beat em, join em

>tfw you have every part for your new build but are waiting on a fucking cryorig AM4 bracket to be shipped

How many HDDs is enough for a home file server and media server in RaidZ2 or Raid5, assuming 8tb drives? 6? 8? 10?

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>>62247456
>tfw you could have gone with any number of companies and avoided this horrible fate
>tfw you should have gone with a non x part and could be happily using your system with the more than adequate stock cooling

>>62247449
Thank you for the explanation. I'll be honest, I don't care for that shit at all. I thought BTC was neat at the start, but now it's become a new stock exchange where people make bets on things that don't have any intrinsic value, and I hate that shit.
And also they take our fucking graphics cards REEEEEEE

>>62247482
raidz2 should start with 4, 6, or 10 drives. 4 is gonna take 50% of your storage for parity, 6 being optimal, 10 being near reckless with your data (should be 2 raidz1 or 1 raidz3)
all depends on how much data you need and what level of security you want against disk failure, you could also consider striped mirrors for a simple media server, assuming nothing on there is mission critical must keep, in which case zfs is your best bet

>>62247506
>take our graphics cards
speak for yourself man. i bought 4 480s in march for 180 a piece expecting this to happen, mined on them for a while, made a quick 2k, sold the cards themselves for another 1300 used. took the money and got a 1080ti and 2 980ti, 1080ti is my baby now, the 980ti sit and make me money all day. buddy started mining when he was in class or asleep and saved everything he mined with his lowly 290, bought himself a new computer last week, r7 1700, 16gb 3200 ram, 1080ti hybrid, 2 new 512gb ssd, the works man. for virtually no cost to himself
ill say it again, if you cant beat em, join em

>>62247556
kys fag

>>62247529
Hmmm. If I have 8 discs currently, should I grab 1 or 2 more for z3? They're 5400rpm drives so it's not worth breaking two off and using them for Steam or anything... I have a separate drive for that. Not to mention SSDs

Also, is it worth using one of my old 128gb SSDs as a L2ARC or ZIL drive?

>>62247655
it'll depend on your load and the amount of ram you have, but the short answer is its highly unlikely, especially for your intended use. 7 is a great number for raidz3, i would do that, and that way if a disk fails you have one on hand ready to swap in and rebuild your pool.
if you dont mind me asking, what motherboard will you be using? how will you be connecting the drives? how much ram do you intended to get? and what kind of ram?
>>62247629
someones buttmad that I wasn't an idiot. its not even like I bought one of your precious 1060/580s, I bought used 980 TI's. enjoy your 1050 TI nocoiner

>>62247988
>enjoy your 1050 TI nocoiner
I will, fuck you

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>gf cheated on me because i dont have any bitcoin

Need a cheap new monitor. Not got any atm.

>https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-VS248HR-Gaming-Monitor-DVI-D/dp/B014RKZ81O/ref=lp_428652031_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1504531486&sr=1-1
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BCF06LE/ref=psdc_428652031_t2_B005OPLG0O
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-GW2470H-23-8-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B0157V5XC6/ref=lp_428652031_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1504531486&sr=1-22

I'm hoping to choose from one of these.

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>>62248384
Thank you!

>>62247988
Probably a A12-9800 with a B350/Z370 mITX motherboard (iric, there's only an ASRock and Gigabyte board to choose from) and using a SATA controller card to connect more devices than the motherboard's four max. Likely 16gb ram.

Or should I go with a i3/i5? I'm limited to mITX boards for this build unless I change cases.

>>62247374

>implying

Helping roommate build his first PC. Budget is probably $1000 max for everything.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P4s9M8
(He got the motherboard for free, unless there's some cheaper mobo+cpu combo I'm not aware of).

Is there anything better that I'm just missing?

>>62247988
Hmm, alternatively I can build in a Node 804 case and use my old 970 with a 1300X and a mATX motherboard. That might be the better option.

>>62248621
It's unfortunate that he has that motherboard, because wow that's a shit build. Can he sell it?

>>62245416
Even used I'd be fine 2bh, I don't really feel the need to change the CPU.

>>62248711
We got to school in a pretty small town in the middle of nowhere, so probably not anytime soon.

I'm thinking of telling him to just forget the shitty motherboard and go for a ryzen build.

Pray for my RAM, anons! It'll take a month to replace under warranty so one of them not being dead would be awesome.

>>62248435
none of those are good options, at least not for zfs
if you're gonna do zfs, you need 1gb of ram for every 1tb of storage, so in your case you're looking at 64gb needed. beyond that, you'll want ECC ram, otherwise zfs is no better than raid
>>62248667
thats a really good case for this kind of thing. ive got a NAS with 7 4tb drives in one of thosee now, never had any problems, was quick and simple to put together as well

>>62248435
>>62249296
you'll also need to make sure the chipset connections for the motherboard are supported in freeBSD to make sure they'll work with freenas, or alternatively get an old SAS card with breakout cables to sata, a popular one to use is an IBM m1050 flashed to IT mode

>>62248621
It's a little bit over, but it's worth it.
I just woke up and I put that together fast, I might've made some mistakes.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/snCG8K

>>62245092
Question. Why is the Pentium up there? I'd replace it with the new Bristol Ridge AMD Athlon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgpnl7N2KBc
Same price, similar performance, better upgrade path

>>62249937
what's up with the 'pro carbon' mobo getting shilled so much? it costs $60 more over other b350s without offering much more.

>>62249965
random youtubers are not a viable source of information.

>>62250176
>random youtubers are not a viable source of information.
Everyone else uses their videos to show Ryzen's gaming performance without BS opinions and he tells you the testing rig set up and lets the results speak for themselves.

But suddenly because the result is something you don't like, it's invalid? Fuck off Intel shill.

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/g/uys, quick question

I've a I5 2400... And I'm thinking about getting a Ryzen 1400 (Im on a budget and a friend of mine is selling me his mobo and the processor for cheap), it's a good upgrade?
Also, I need to buy some ram for it, Should I buy something like 3000 Mhz?

>>62250216
it wont be an earth shattering difference, but it'll be a solid bump, especially with an overclock. if you had a 2500k this would be a different story, but since you can overclock as is and you'll gain 4 threads it actually is kinda a big upgrade
3000mhz ram would be good, but it only costs like 20 more to go with 3200, which is currently the "holy grail" of sorts. id say go big with 3200 or go home with 2666-2800

>>62250216
Sounds like a plan. Go for it. Ram in general for Ryzen is recommended to be between 2666 and 3200 mhz, so 3000 mhz is perfectly fine.

>>62250251
But is a good start for a full upgrade right?
Also, I've an GTX 960 Amp 4gb... Ill not have problems with compatibility, right?

>>62250283
>But is a good start for a full upgrade right?
perfectly fine. You're going from 4 cores/4 threads and locked, to an unlocked 4 cores, 8 threads processor with room to upgrade to 8 cores/16 threads in the future. It's a solid upgrade.

ASUS PB328Q for a 2nd monitor?

>>62250212
fuck off, pajeet. until it gets properly reviewed it doesn't exist. you're free to make your own thread

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With the China ban on bitcoins and the bubble bursting, will the gpu prices return to normal?

>>62250663
why would something good ever happen to the average consumer?

Best sub-$100 case that is not an eyesore?

Friend asked me to build him a pc, other than browsing the web the only thing he does is photoshop, so he doesnt really need a very powerful pc.
Since its been a long time i haven't looked at pc parts i figured it would be better to get some help after my initial research.
I mainly searched for a cpu with a decent integrated graphics card because that should be enough for him.
I guess 110$ would be the budget for that.
Here are a few of my options:
a6 7400k, a8 7650k, g3930, g4400 or g4560
Which one would fit the description the most?

>>62250663

yes, expect prices to return to normal by next month.

>>62250847

phanteks enthoo pro

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pxvpTH
spicy new meme
gonna put this in a custom loop

My computer graphics card just died (black screen on startup login windows) and I might need a new card because onboard is a joke.

However, a goddamn Rx 570 for over 300$.when it was originally at 150$. Are you fucking kidding me? Would appreciate someone to advise me whether should I fix the old GPU or should I just bite the bullet here

>>62251084
forget to include, my old GPU was HD 6850

>>62250877
a6 5400k

>>62251084
just buy a 1050 or something
or a 550

>>62245318
Update: Frys has a deal for a 7700k for 270 dollars today, so Im pulling the trigger on that. Thank you guys for the help.

>>62251132
1050 as a temporary replacement is a fine suggestion indeed, but I'm worry about the money when price settle down since I might don't have enough to buy a better one

>>62251084
If you want a card that is only slightly faster than your 6850, buy a GT 1030. They're like 70 USD. Or if you want more of an upgrade, buy a GTX 1050[ti] or RX 550+

How do I go about keeping an i7 7700K below 50*?

>>62251205
Thank you for the advise, I'm looking for info on the card you suggested

>>62249296
Well shit, I didn't know about the ram requirements. I'm new to this.

I might just say fuck it and run either Raid5 or forget about Raid and parity and just set up a giant LVM.

Thanks for the advice so far.

>>62251260
Are you overclocking?
What CPU Cooler do you have?
Hows the airflow in your case and room?

How can i make the RGB LED strip built into my case remember the last color/light setting i switched it to (it's controlled via a button on the case) when i turn the PC on again? For example when i turn the LED's off it goes back on blinking again (default mode where it keeps cycling through all the lights basically) the next time i boot up

For some reason the controller keeps forgetting that they were last turned off, haven't tested whether this happens with color settings aswell though

If it's of any help the case is a Thermaltake Versa C21

>>62251284
1. No.

2. No CPU cooler yet. Planning the build.

3. Don't have a case yet.

>>62251314
>>62251314
Also the only other RGB appliance where this happens for me is that one light bulg, the RGB LED strip i have below my desk doesn't exhibit this behaviour and when being turned on saves all the last used colors (even the dim setting and shit) strangely enough

What's the difference between Fractal Design Define Mini and Mini C?

>>62250272
>>62250324

Thanks alot for the replys guys
One las thing, the mobo is a Msi A320m Grenade.
Its at least good? or its a pice of shit?

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>>62251480
Mini has 2 5.25" drive bays and the face is a cover. Mini C is just a bayless flat face.

>>62251486
A320 will not let you overclock
Get at least a B350

>>62251562
yeah, but remember what I said, Its a friend of mine who's selling me the mobo and the 1400. In not buying them brand new...

>>62250283
>Ill not have problems with compatibility, right?
no problems.

>>62250663
Vietnam announced they would recognize bitcoin as currency. Nothing is bursting.

>>62250847
Fractal Design makes some nice-looking cases. The Define series in particular.

>>62250936
Cool, a custom loop in this case will be nice. Post pictures of the finished build eventually.

>>62251084
1050 Ti is a good buy right now. AMD cards are overpriced and/or not in stock.

>>62251314
Does your motherboard have an RGB header?

>>62251486
Ah that's unfortunate, you won't be able to OC with that. When buying new a B350 is a much better buy. I hope you're getting a good price on the lot.

A good ATX case that looks kind of retro and is less than 150?

>>62251511
Is that all?

>>62251688
I'm looking at Corsair and CM cases in the same price range and I really can't decide. I want a stealthy angular look without too much rice yet I don't want it to look like a fridge either.

>>62251782
>Is that all?
There are probably numerous other differences, but I was relating the biggest one.

>>62247007
>>62246859
Is it built yet?

>>62251782
>I want a stealthy angular look without too much rice yet I don't want it to look like a fridge either.
Maybe In Win? The 904 is very nice but over budget, something like the 303 could work.

>Bought 1060 3gb for $190 last week.
>Give /pcbg/ link
>days later same item is now $290

Fuck you miners fuck you!!!!!!!!!

>>62251875
Nuke India and problem solved.

How much do you think I could sell a r9 390 8GB for?

>>62251884
Working on it. :^)

>>62251849
I think I'm going with the Phantek. The problem is I don't really want a window - if I must I'd rather have full-sided transparency.

>>62251761
Anons? ;_;

Anyone have recommendations for PCIe 3.0 x8 SAS/SATA cards? Is LSI any good?

Considering one of these for a Threadripper or Skylake-X build:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD5G5JG6403

>>62251761
>>62252059
Fractal Design Define R5?

>>62252136
I said something retro, anon, anyways thanks.

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>>62245092
got a PC with an intel xeon W3540 and 16 GB ddr3. What graphics card should I put in it?

>>62251875
>$290 for a 3GB
Yeezus

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>>62252170
The panel always gave me a retro vibe

>>62252170
Well, the Corsair 200R exists, but it isn't particularly "good".

I suppose any future suggestions depend on your definition of retro.

>>62252233
Retro Arcade.
But I kind of like the Define R5

>>62251884
>>62252180
https://www.walmart.com/ip/PNY-GeForce-GTX-1060-3GB-Video-Card-VCGGTX10603PB-Graphics-Cards/158039014

Sorry link.

Was like $191 last week. Figured it would tie me over since I'm on 1080p anyways and was under msrp. Would buy something better later when things got better.

Looks like things are just getting worse with the nvidia GDDR5 shortage and Vega getting further confirmations of a miner's wetdream.

You anons who don't have gpus for your latest builds right now are getting fucked super hard right now.

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>>62252233
Oh, what could have been.

>>62252214
I had this case, it's fucking turbocancer. After a month the front panel will be caked in dust that can't even be removed with compressed air. The only way to get it out is to destroy the plastic clips trying to pry the front off with the tiny handle at the bottom and wash it in water. The PSU dust filter is also shitty and impossible to take out/put in without pulling out the case and flipping it over.
tl;dr it's a dust trap that's impossible to clean

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What does this look like in real life?

Considering a build with the Tomahawk B350 motherboard and a R5-1600, but I'm afraid of compatibility issues. I keep seeing online that the motherboard ships with a bios version that cant support the R5 series. Can anyone confirm or deny?

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>>62252482

>>62252136
Fuck, is ATX Mid.
Another good option like this? ;_;

Wat is the best and most hassle-free method of keeping both the interior and exterior of my case clean and dust-free

>>62252306
Yeah I just got a 1050 Ti and I'm a bit bummed about it honestly.
I could have afforded a 1060 or a 1070, but fuck that.

>>62252492
Where have you seen this? Anyway when you buy new the bios should be updated.

>>62252482
>>62252482
Heh, this was the case i originally planned to go with for my Ryzen build, looking back i'm kinda glad i didn't because the tempered glass shit seems incredibly unsafe and memey

Anyway there's tons of videos on youtube

>>62252544
Get a case with dust filters over the intakes, that are not visible from the outside, and use positive pressure (more intake fans than exhaust).

>>62252600
Unsafe how?

i'm building a budget pc with a ryzen 5 1400 (or a 1300x , haven't decided yet) and a 1050ti.
I was planning on getting an xfx xt series 500w psu but read that they are really avg (or even bad according to others).

should i go for a seasonic eco 430? i've read it's surprisingly good.

also should i push for a b350 chipset or is a320 good enough?

>>62252787
The only Ryzens worth buying are 1200, 1600 and 1700. Get a 1200, once overclocked it will be exactly the same as an overclocked 1300X. And that's more than enough with a 1050 Ti.
Where are you from? Just use pcpartpicker for your build, it's easier for us to see what you want and to present changers.
A320 doesn't allow overclock. Get a B350.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KgsqvV
anything i ca improve on before i order this shit?

Any good Full ATX that is aesthetic and a good Mobo for a i7-7700k?

>>62252839
>RGB RAM
>RGB everything
ugh
I'd get some PWM fans.

>>62252839
Do your RAM and fans need to light up?

>>62252828
the pc is not for me and the guy that will get it doesn't know jack shit about pcs so if the settings reset he just got a slow ass pc. i've already picked b350 chipset but it's pushing my total right up to my budget ceiling. pcpartpicker doesn't apply where i live (eastern europe).

>>62252872
no ram was fast and almost same price as others and i like rgb lights. why what should else should i get?

>>62252866
just wanted my ram to look cool while also being fast and moderately priced :^/

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Thoughts on the Enthoo Elite?

>>62253186
it looks pretty cool

>>62253035
What you spend in RGB you should really spend in fadter RAM.

>>62253251
3000 is fast enough. Unless he springs for one of the kits with guaranteed b-die, most 3200 kits will probably not work ar 3200.

>>62253186
looks sweet as fuck

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The fuck?

>>62253400
Phanteks is a meme
Tempered glass is a meme

>>62253400
It's ultra high end anon. It was marketed as such.

>>62253445
That doesn't mean wasting 1 grand of fucking piece of plastic, anon.

Say good things about the 7700k.

>>62253400
shit, I spent $130 on my case and that already felt like entirely too much

>>62253467
It has repeating digits in the name, which is a plus

>>62253467
it will keep you warm and comfy in the winter times

>>62253467
It has better single thread performance than Ryzen and that means a lot for gaymen, when most games only use 1 core ;:^(

>>62253403
I thought 1800X and 1700X came with a Wraith Max?

>>62253467

She fast?

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>>62245092
Anyone have any experience with EVGA's step up program? I want to upgrade my 1050 Ti to a 1060, 6 gb version.

I don't know if I want to just sell the Ti second hand, or go through with the step-up program process. In theory I'd save some money through the step up program, but I imagine getting the new card would take a lot longer.

>>62253586
no they fucking dont

>>62253586

No, wraith max is reserved for oem like Dell or Hp and shit to put on their ryzen builds.

>>62253638
oooh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKXxzM
How can I make it better?
(Please, no shilling about peripherals ;_;)

>>62253566
>when most games only use 1 core

That's why I got 7350k. Too bad I had to pay premium for that one extra core though.

>>62253672
You're the first one making that joke hahaha! Funny!

>>62253680
I'm actually wondering if the 7350k wouldn't have niche uses such as this. Surely there are specific games out there ONLY, but really ONLY using 1 core right?

Often people talk about games only caring about single core but it's just untrue when you actually monitor the game.

>>62253672
That looks pretty good.

>>62253703
Actually, there are a few that only uses one, but a lot of games on PC actually centers all of it's load on the first core, leaving the others at 20%~ usage.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VYWxzM

This is a build for my friend who said he wanted to get into PC gaming but doesn't want to drop a lot of cash in-case he dislikes it.

How is this for a pleb-gaming build?

>>62253726
>>62253672
wait no
you need more power. Go for 750W at the very least.

>>62253403
>>62253403
Why the FUCK is my turbo boost not working? R5 1600 on win7 ultimate btw

The fucking thing never goes above 3.2 even under max performance power plan/heavy loads etc

>>62253754
Mobo should be B350.
You need a SSD. He can add a HDD later.
Get a 23.8" / 24" monitor instead if possible. If not that's okay though.

Rest is nice.

>>62253762
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xJtjzM
?
Is the mobo actually good?

Just pulled the trigger and got the 850 evo lads. Did i do well?

Why does my PC case sidepanel have this "rainbow shine" to it? Like it looks like there's an oil film or something on there wtf

The panel material is acrylic plastic i think but i'm actually not sure

>>62253754
1200 (or 1300X if no OC) would be enough. 8GB of RAM too. I'd pony up for a B350 motherboard though, it leaves more options for not a ton more money even if you don't want to OC right now.
Consider a 128GB SSD with the savings.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zd3rkT

I don't know shit about monitors, but have him get a good mouse and keyboard and not cheap gaymer shit. And a good mousepad.

>>62253855
Yes they are good SSDs.

>>62253884
>>62253754
Oh and for the case, let him choose whatever he likes the look of as long as it's not shit. It's important that he gets a case he likes.

>>62253799
I don't want to give him an SSD because he doesn't know about storage speeds and I am gonna let him be an oblivious pleb just because he skipped out on PC for this long.

I changed the monitor, I was gonna give him a frameless one, but I guess pixel sharpness counts more than aesthetics, even to a PC pleb.

And I changed the mobo to a B350.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NytjzM
This good?

>>62251745
>>62251745
It's an MSI B350 Gaming Plus, i don't think the manual said anything about an RGB header but i'd have to look again

If it doesn't have one can i somehow jerry-rig the led strips with an exterior rgb header or something along those ines?

>>62253811
Yeah it's good.
Honestly I'm worried that even 750 is going to be just about the limit if you do a big overclock. Someone who knows more than me about power consumption or OC could maybe chip in.

>>62254027
Why not use one of the million power supply calculators available online?

>>62254089
Because that's only a vague approximation and doesn't account for overclock

>>62252691
>>62252691
I heard the glass can break under too much thermal stress

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Rate my deep learning build
>$3357.14

>>62254108
So can literally any material.

>>62254132
>Double 1080Ti
wew, the ryzen probably gonna bottleneck it

>>62254154
Threadripper is too expensive though and comparable Intel stuff is even more so.

>>62254154
I don't think he's going to play video games on it.

>have heart attack that my RAM wasn't showing up on the QVL
>forgot to remove the letter code for colour

I feel like a brainlet

so it looks like my reference r9 290 finally shit the bed on me. graphics crash about 5 minutes after logging into windows.

What should a poorfag like me buy for a replacement?

>>62254337
1050 Ti

>>62254337
1050 Ti or 1060 if you can find one for a decent price

>>62254337
1050 Ti, but it's worse than the 290.
It all depends on your definition of poorfag, and if you can find a good deal for a 1060 or RX 570/580.

1950X or 7900X?

PCIe used by:
2 graphics cards
8-lane raid controller
2 or 3 NVMe drives
Sound Card (potentially)
Capture card (potentially)

>>62253662
but AMD has said they will sell the Wraith Max separately for $59, which is in line with other RGB 140W air coolers on the market. Hasn't hit stores yet that I can see, but it's coming.

I'm looking for a monitor that is IPS, 99% or higher sRGB, at either 1920x1080 or 1920x1200.

I'm eyeing the Dell U2415 right now. Are there better options than this that don't go above $300? If not, are there any options that have the same specs as the U2415 but are cheaper? I'm worried that a lot of reviews mention that the monitor has pretty bad backlighting.

>>62254388
1950X

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should i pull the trigger?

>>62254695
it's only for 775 and AM2 and they don't seem to include any adapters

>>62254695

I'm surprised you can actually find one since that's supposed to be limited, I still have the original one but I can't find the new Universal BTK that supports AM4 anywhere

A friend wants a $500 mobo/cpu/ram upgrade for his box, and save up for a GPU later.

Am I stuck with Ivy Bridge-era? Do they have any usable years left in them for 1440p gayming?

>>62254895
You're not stuck with anything with that budget. Ryzen 1600, a good B350 motherboard, and 16GB of 3200MHz B-die RAM. That's pretty much the ideal build.

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>>62254695
*should i get robbed by a nigger?

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LADS
lads

Im about to pull the trigger on
1700x 1080Ti build
I will only use it for gaming but the 1700x is like 20% off
It totals to around 1700 eurodollars.

Thing is, I don't need a new PC right now, there isnt a game ill play once I buy it.
Should I wait? Last time I waited the prices got worse, it's still more expensive than in may.
Plus Christmas is coming and I don't know how long the 1700x is gonna be off for.

>>62254895
There's no way an ivy bridge bottlenecks 1440p.

>>62255047
>Thing is, I don't need a new PC right now, there isnt a game ill play once I buy it.
then don't buy it
you don't even need the 1700x, the 1600 is literally just as good for gaymen, so it doesn't matter that there's an offer on it.

nice butt

Bought a deepcool tesseract case for new rig, and the entire rig vibrates. Like if I put pressure on the top it stops making a metallic vibration.
Any solution to this?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zC93xY

Still unsure on the mobo.

>>62254388
well lets see
16+16+8+12+1+4=57
threadripper has 60 lanes, intel has 40
based off of this alone i would recommend threadripper. Based off of price/performance i would still recommend threadripper. Based off of upgrade path I would still recommend threadripper. Basically, threadripper for anything but gaming, which you shouldnt be doing on a HEDT $1000 processor anyway
So yeah, threadripper

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>>62255113
If we followed the simple rule of hardware getting older then I'd wait but RAM prices and GPU price spikes are gonna rawdog me once I decide to build it.
Might aswel wait for Volta at that point.

>>62255144
dont buy deepcool

>>62255151
You can get a 1060 6GB for less than £40 more. Go for that instead.
Also I think that PSU is shit, I'll check.

>>62253796
Probably because you're on windows 7.
Ryzen and KabyLake both have outright said they will not support anything but Win 10, so even though you can make it work, there's still known issues m8.

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What have the best of /g/ been doing with their hardware builds in order to tabbed browse ninja-quick despite shitty web-design, "long-running scripts" and the great browser debacle 2017?

No one I know can browse very long without hang-ups or flat out browser crashes. Also, yes I realize that some of it is dirt-cheap web-hosting and nothing will fix that.

>>62255151
Yeah that PSU is shit.
So get that instead: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3TT8VY

By the way Ryzen works best with faster RAM, but you already bought yours so it doesn't matter now.

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:sweating:

And no, I didn't assemble it on top of my bed, I did it on the wooden desk.

>>62255198
>>62255295
XFX are seasonic rebrands mainly, although the XFX Core is the minimum you should go with.

>>62255191
yeah, I regret buying this shit. I really expected more from all the reviews I read on it. I literally had to get pliers and rip pieces off of it to make my HDDs, GPU, and wireless card to fit.

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>>62251849
Yes!
Need to take better pictures, even did cable management.
Everything working fine, now just need to overclock the CPU and RAM and I'm set.

Pic is before cable management.

> be 13
> first pre-built PC is making weird sounds
> afraid it will break
> would take >1 year of saving money to buy new PC
> go to cybercafe to download instructions and manuals and pictures on floppy disks
> pour over materials
> after 4 weeks finally open the case, explore insides, take some things and put them in, mess around with bios. Find gpu fan (geforce 2 mx/mx, 64mb) with a worn out bearing, don't have money to swap so just use wd40 every 2 months to make it quiet)
> hands sweating, shaking, feeling like fucking neo or mitnick

> 2017
> be 27
> grown ass man, steady job, wife, hobbies
> take out desktop I built ~7 years ago from back of closet
> everything is ancient but case and psu still good
> start ordering parts on newegg
> medium/high tier shit, always used to go for budget builds because no money
> hands shaking, red in face, so fucking excited
> last parts come in next week, will boot that shit up
> inb4 not your personal blog

Damn /g/, never thought Id feel like a kid again.

>>62255329
Seasonic makes bad PSUs too.

>>62255321
Fuck me that case is even bigger than I thought.

>>62255354
...that doesn't mean that XFX is bad, their PSUs and GPUs are very solid stuff.

>we've now sent your shit emails starting to trickle in

its happening, slowly, but happening

>>62255378
This one specifically isn't good.

>>62255353
You're lucky, you still have your first PC.

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Updated 7700K build. I think I've settled on a motherboard. Not getting that case, but I thought the included PSU made it a cute placeholder.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bkZthq

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>>62255354
42cm by 44cm.
Misleadily big when you look at the pictures, but it fits my desk like a glove and actually takes up less usable space than my previous case did.

As for the cable management, there's a bit of a mess in one of the corners because the cables are not long enough to route them below the motherboard tray and I don't want to yank or put too much tension on them by tying them to the cable management hooks on the sides of the case. I think I'll get some extension cables and rebuild it in a week or so to make the interior look as clean as possible. There's a lot of space below the motherboard tray where I just fit my PSU's cables in a bit of a mess. Perhaps I'll buy some cablemod cables and use them instead of the cables my PSU came with.

Also the case only came with one 2.5 inch mouting bay, but I managed to mount both my SSDs on it by putting them semi staggered and flipped, so I could connect all the cables without too much pressure on them. I'm actually using all the bays inside the case, 1 3.5 with the two SSDs, an HDD and then using the two quick swap bays for 2 more HHDs. I don't know where I'll fit the next HDD I'm buying in a few weeks.

>>62255499
Make sure to include a delidding tool.

>>62255353

>14 year old psu from budget pc

Please tell me you didn't use that shit

Can you fit an amd radeon card in a think station s30?

>>62255582
>>62255419
reading comprehension is hard.

>>62255582
youre the second person in this thread that thinks hes using the original pc
is this poojeet epidemic ive been hearing about

>>62255419
>>62255582
Wtf anons, I didnt say I took out my first PC. That one's long gone. I made this build when I was transitioning from college to work, still had to budget stuff but was able to get good parts for cheap.

It's some PSU with those sturdy, non-leaky caps rated for like a billion hours or something. Not modular, but meh.

>X52 pump shit the bed again for the 3rd time in 8 months.

Holy fuck, whoever said aio don't really fail anymore really cucked me. After how many rma can I request a full refund?

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>>62255535
I'm not delidding. I'll sooner custom build a refrigeration unit and feed chilled air in behind the motherboard.

>>62255643
Enjoy your housefire then.

>>62255676
I've yet to see evidence that delidding matters beyond a degree's difference.

>>62255693
https://youtu.be/HNLubjXKHLs
It does with babylake

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KHT8VY
Building my first PC. I'm trying to stay relatively below 1k right now.

>>62255734
If that's legit, then how the fuck isn't the 7700K considered a lemon?

>>62255792
muh single threaded performance

>>62255792
stockholm syndrome

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvJYxY

Upgrading my PC, I intend to recycle my current GPU until I decide on my next monitor in a few months time.

Is any of this not going to work? Is 550w adequate even if I wind up going with some power monster vega GPU eventually?

>>62255763
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cXc2d6
I left the monitor unchanged just because I don't know shit about monitors, and the case because that's a personal choice.

>>62255863
Do you need X370?

>>62255893
yes i have plenty of experience with that

Anyone have an experience with this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Design-Integra-Power-Supply/dp/B00LW1XM06

Looks good value for money but not alot of reviews to go on

>>62255869
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cXc2d6
Thanks. For now I just want something to display the desktop at. Maybe I'll try craiglist to find something cheap later down the line.

>>62255933
https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/fractal-design-integra-m-650w-review/7/
Looks decent, maybe you have better options for the price.

>>62255908
Oh, you can overclock on B350s. Anyone have a board recommendation?

>>62256008
Gaming m3 asus prime

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xcncXH

First time building a PC. Chose most of this stuff after browsing this thread and other sources. Minus extra shit like speakers, another monitor etc. it comes in at around $1500 which is about what I'm willing to pay.

Mainly aiming for a dual monitor (60-75hz) setup running most games current and within the next few years in at least 1080/60. I don't play a lot of new stuff but I like having the option to do so. It's my understanding that a build like this would be fully capable of doing such a thing since I'm not aiming for 144hz or any insane resolutions/framerates at the moment, correct?

Also, a few more newfag questions:

1. I saw a post earlier advising against purchasing a brand new Win7 64bit OS and instead pirating or finding a cheaper deal via Kinguin. Wondering if anyone else can chime in to confirm this as the go to option. Site seems legit enough to me.

2. Will I need those extra two fans I included or should I get even more? Research seemed to indicate that for what I'm aiming for, the PC would run cool enough without them. I'd like for the thing to be as quiet as possible so if they're overkill as far as cooling is concerned, I'll pass.

3.While on the subject of cooling, is the stock CPU cooler on the R5 1600 worth replacing or will it suffice? Again, research seemed to indicate it will be fine for what I'd be running.

>>62256008
There aren't really many shit ones, it depends on the features you need.

>>62256089
>GTX 1080 for 1080p60
literally throwing money away

> Win7
I hope you mean 10, 7 doesn't even support Ryzen without doing some dark magic fuckery.

Yes the stock cooler on the 1600 is good enough if you're not going for a 4GHz OC.

>>62256199
There's a new thread in town
>>62256199
>>62256199
>>62256199
>>62256199

Have a ASRock 970 Extreme4, is this considered pretty solid still or should I think about getting a new one?

Because I want to buy a new processor because that's pretty old (AMD FX-4350), but wondering if I should just buy a better processor or go for a new MB + processor bundle.

>>62256214
Get a Ryzen. You'll need new RAM too.

>>62256008
MSI B350 Tomahawk

Just bought a 1700X. How badly did I screw up

>>62256726
not very. what cooler will you use?

>>62256726
Depends on what you are using it for. For gaming, you probably spent too much but it's still a really good chip.

God, why does it feel so nice to be on a new quick desktop instead of fucking laptops that never have a goddamned gpu and rely on intel integrated graphshits?

>tfw can't buy any new GPUs right now
I just want GTX 1080 or Vega 56 for a decent price along with a nice gaymen monitor

I forgot which tech review site has that fuck huge and very detailed charts for GPUs. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>62258147
1080 is unaffected by the mining boom. You're thinking of the 1070

>>62258218
I meant to say that I should've GRABBED DEAL a few months ago when they were sub $450 prices

Fuck why'd I wait for AMD? I skipped this meme last time by getting a 2500K and then Bulldozer dropped (flopped)