Is 16GB of ram the new standard? Also 8GB modules seems to

>>62214265
Yes.
DRAM is silly overpriced though.
Fuck DRAM cartel.

16 is too little these days if you do more than youtube watching

16gb was the standard 5 years ago and here I am on ddr4 with 16gb because of stupid prices

400usd for 3000mhz 32gb get fucked

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>>62214821
400$?
I recently bought 32GB Ram for 170€ (around 201$)

>>62214265
No, 8GB is still the standard, and will always be if it's the standard among gaymers.

>>62214821
Between this and the bullshit with GPU's If you haven't got the PC you want now then prepare to get raped. Waitfags completely utterly eternally BTFO.

>>62215326
This I wiated years for Vega since 2015 and it turned out to be complete shit so I went with a 1600x and a 1080

Intel SSD, ram and dram can all go get fucked hdd are even worse $300+ for a 7200rpm 8tb get fucked

>>62215310
8GB was fine because all PC games were 32bit executables and could not use more than a maximum of 4GB anyway. Now that most games are releasing as 64BIT the floodgates have been opened, some modern vidya will happily eat ~15GB to itself.

Yes
Recently upgraded and it made a larger difference than expected, especially in games

>>62215364
64bit dates back to 2005 anyway it's nothing new.

Sadly now that new consoles have 8-12gb of ram lazy devs will get even more lazy.

Gen 9 is here and it's a clusterfuck

>>62215466
Other than things like UT2004 everything clung to 32bit until very recently.

>>62215500
I had 12gb up until 2014 when I went and got a new 16gb build and it was still barely enough

4 years later it's minimum if I want to multitask

>>62214265

>>62214821

right now DDR3 is the cheapest but only within 8 gig single stick format cause its only 5 dollars per gig, theres a few others slightly higher but within 5 dollars nothing else is close

however, i would argue that you're still overpaying on other shit

like the cheapest CPU that you can still buy from 1150 that's close to the pentium 4560 is the i3-4170 which is almost 130 right now

conversely the cheapest mobo for 1151 that has DDR3 support is 80 dollars, vs 50 for DDR4 varients

so that 1-2 dollar per gig difference doesnt really fucking matter

>>62214265

why is SSD now cheaper than RAM?

is there a way to POST and boot a PC and use an SSD for the ram or is SSD memory more prone to wear out vs RAM memory

you can get 120 gigs of SSD for just 50 dollars

>>62216235
SSD's are many times slower.

>>62216257

okay then an M.2 you can get 64 gigs for 50 dollars

I went from 6gb to a new system with 16gb. I can't believe how much more the system uses because I have more ram. Hoping to go to 32gb once prices go back down.

>>62215364
Care to name a few?
From personal experience I've only found Battlefield 1, PUBG and Rust to eat RAM like crazy.

>>62214304
it's all about memory controllers. it's not only about RAM but SSDs too

>>62214265
4GB here, absolutely fine if you don't gayme.

>>62216317
M.2 is SSD in a different form factor, IDIOT.

>>62214265
Can't wait for 16GB sticks to be standard

>>62216906

whats the actual fucking difference in normal desktop usage

also would it be possible?

and also about the life of SSD memory vs RAM

>>62216879

bull fucking shit m8

you cant have more than a few tabs open and use 4 gigs

8 gigs for normal users is still pushing it

>>62216953
I often leave like 6 tabs open and it does it just fine. All you have to do is not use a bloated piece of shit like Windows 10 and 4GB will be enough for pretty much anything.

>>62216933
Do you have any idea what ram does?
Ram gets rewritten constantly, an ssd would die very quickly.
SSD is designed to store things, their latencies and write speeds are horribly slow compared to DDR ram.

>>62217112

so then why arent SSD's using RAM memory

>>62217118
You can absolutely do that, ram is just very expensive and volatile so its shit for storing things.

>>62214265
the bulk of systems use a 1080p display + os bloatware

8gb is fine for this and typical usage i.e leaving 50 candy crush tabs open in explorer

4gb is not anymore. even cell phones have more ram because most normies do as above.

higher is for people who actually work so if i were you i wouldn't worry about it

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>>62217118
Clue in the acronym RAM dummy

>>62217193
Random access memory?
being random access doesnt matter for data storage.

I'd like to run 32GB since I've still got 2 open slots. Of course, the RAM I'm using was discontinued and the replacement, despite being the same, looks too different.

Fug

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>tfw still on i5 2500K / 8GB and it's time to upgrade but RAM is obscenely expensive now

>>62214265
>16GB
Ramlets are so funny.

I went 32 GB becaise my mITX board only has two DIMM slots and I want to use it for a couple of years.

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>>62217470
BITE THE BULLET

ok guys i have a question.

i have 8 GB DDR4, 2400 CL 19 and 16 GB DDR4 2400 CL 14. What is better
>24 GB RAM but higher CL
>16 GB RAM but lower CL

gaymers >>>/v/
3d fags >>>/3/
graphic designers >>>/gd/
/g/ people need 1 gb max

>>62214265
>Is 16GB of ram the new standard?
In general? No. For enthusiasts? It's slowly becoming standard.

>>62217557

just think if you werent autisti you would have bought 2133 and saved money

>>62217642
>Saved money on slow ram
sure, I could have.
I probably could have saved money by using some shit optiplex for $30 too...

The only time I come close to maxing out my 4 gigs is when I'm using Winbloat.

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>tfw fell for the 32gb meme

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6 months ago I was running 2gb of RAM and >4 tabs on the internet would make my pc slow to a crawl. 8gb and a new system later I've yet to "slow" issues. I can only imagine 16gb or more of ram

>>62217678

>paying more for 1% effective speed

>>62217722
try running a game too and u will see

>inb4 gaymer

>>62217118
>so then why arent SSD's using RAM memory
RAM is volatile, so it can't be used for storing things. Non-volative RAM is very, very expensive.

>>62217592
24GB if you routinely use more than 16GB, 16GB otherwise.

>>62217790
i use that much of a ram only for gaming so i dont know which is better

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>>62217729
It's a bit more than that friend.
15% here...

>>62217729
Depends on whether he's using Intel or AMD. Infinity fabric used to connect different CCXs together is tied to RAM speed, so Zen loves fast RAM.

>>62217790
>24GB
Don't listen to this poster.

>>62214265
Keeping browsers open for a long time gets me up above 12GB easily, forget if I want to run multiple vms..

Probably will upgrade from 16 to 32; even though its a shame to put more $ into a ddr3 system

>>62217840
whats wrong with 24 gb ram?

>>62217840
Higher CAS is a minor performance penalty in some applications. Run out of RAM and your performance goes down the toilet.

>>62217848
It has to be odd amounts which IMC's don't like.
2x8 + 2x4 isn't a good setup for latency.
3x8 GB is the worlds most retarded shit (unless you're on an old x58 system...) since it will run in single-channel and you'll halve your throughput.

>>62217848
it's not 2^n REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62217771

but why

why is it more expensive

also you havent explained how much faster, SSDs are pretty fast, what is RAM holding which needs to be displayed any faster than something an SSD would have to open

>>62217824

how did i know gayming was the only process you would show that actually benefits from OC'd RAM

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>>62217952
>only
also
>disliking gaming
You should probably go somewhere else, like 6ft under, no fun allowed types are better off dead.

>>62217914
>also you havent explained how much faster
A high-end PCI-e SSD such as 960pro can deliver about 1100MB/s of bandwidth with 150µs latency when stressed. A low-end DDR4 chip in dual-channel delivers about four times as much bandwidth with latency of around 10ns regardless of workload. So that's 15 000 times higher latency for pretty much the best consumer-grade SSD on the market.

>>62217997

oh yes, when im not gayming im rendering and encoding

right, the 99%

>>62218042

but again, what exactly is it having to display that makes any bit of difference

everything you do when you boot the computer on an SSD is without RAM assistance and there's zero noticable difference

shit, load up fucking GIMP and it still takes forever the next time during the same uptime

>>62218079
Why do you have anything over an Optiplex then?

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>tfw ramlet who fell for the "laptop with 12GB RAM" meme

>>62218096
>shit, load up fucking GIMP and it still takes forever the next time during the same uptime
That's because once you close a program, it won't be kept in the RAM anymore, idiot.

>>62218137

so RAM is a meme

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>>62218137
>using a shitty OS

>>62216879
I've had 4GB DDR3 forever and just now got another 4GB stick today. I don't need it, but I'm future proofing because I know DDR3 will start to fade away on the market and the prices will soar even more, like it did with DDR2

>>62217729
t. poorfag with slow RAM

There is no "standard". Choose the amount of RAM based on what you want to do with the machine.

>>62218137
It could be down to a storage bottleneck too. RAM is fast but if your spinning rust ain't cutting it, it's going to take a while for the OS to load the program into RAM if it isn't already cached.

>>62217771
You could keep ram powered to store things if you wanted

24GB (Nehalem triple channel) masterrace.

>>62219055
don't at least some X58 boards accept 8GB DIMMs for 48GB?

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>>62219085
It's out of official spec (24GB is the spec for X58), but some boards allegedly do. Nevertheless, matched 48GB (6x8GB) sets are pretty hard to come by.

>>62217678
I have the 2666 ripjaws V. Easily overclocks to 3000 with just upping dram voltage to 1.35. You dun goofed.

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Who cares about capacity
My 3000MHz ram is bottlenecking my video games around 180 fps, gonna need to sell it and get some 4133 dimms

I've seen Deus Ex mankind divided eat over 7gb of ram on its own and while I have no doubt many of the latest and greatest could run on an 8gb system realistically for high end vidya 16gb is a sensible amount here and now. For non vidya uses? Well that depends on what you are doing - many things don't give a fuck about ram, others will eat whatever you can feed it (which is why the low core count xeons and threadripper exist - to have access to shitloads of I/O (inc. ram) but the need more for mores is not there).

>>62218167
No-one is this retarded, obvious troll

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>>62217470
>Tfw on i7 2600k and upgraded to 16gb RAM from 8gb two years ago

>>62219497
*one year ago actually. Fuck I thought it was a longer time ago

>>62216953
I dont even use a single gig of ram on debian until I start leaving a bunch of tabs open in my browser and then I barely approach the 2 gb mark.
sounds to me like you're just computationally retarded

>>62214265
who here /4gbramlet/

>>62214319
What kind of YouTube videos are you watching? 16GB is more than enough for gaming and any application the normal person would use. Hell, 8GB is perfectly fine, too. And if you're just doing some web surfing 4GB is still more than enough.

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>>62219712

>tfw 4gbramlet

One of these days anon, one of these days...

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>>62219813
>celeron
How old is your pc

>>62219883
old enough to not have NSA backdoors in it loser

>>62219883
3 years.

>3570k
>8gb
>660 ti pe
Still comfy and enough for me.

>>62216645
If you use a lot of steam workshop mods/assets then Cities Skylines can easily use more than 16GB of RAM.

>>62217824
ya 15% not just due to the ram speed/timings but also cause the 1700 has a +400 mhz overclock. prob need some crazy liquid cooling to even get it to 4.1 though lmao

>>62216930
I bought 2x 16gb sticks last year.