/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

which cooler master keyboard is good

>>62206065
I know this may be retarded, but, if I get a keyboard with a nordic layout and then switch the keycaps to the UK ones, will just switch in the Windows setting be enought? Or do I have to buy an specific software to do that change?

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Low-profile short travel is the next meme. #goflat

>>62206113
>setxkbmap gb
install gentoo

>>62206126
When can I get the ultimeme 60% low profile short travel keyboard?

>>62206126
Is that keyboard any good? I was thinking about buying it.

>>62206113
Technically, your keyboard is sending keycodes and Windows interprets it to characters in selected layout.

>>62206172
That's why I'm asking, I have an UK ISO x250 and I just switched the keyboard in the settings and such. Just to make sure.

>>62206170
I hope to find out soon.

>>62206151
http://item.jd.com/4781628.html
Anon last thread discovered 68 key wireless version. Begs for an assdrop for triple the price :^)

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>>62206065
hi owo

>>62206065
>>62206255

Does this keyboard exist with an ISO layout?

>>62206170
It's really comfortable to type on.
Switches feel nice and the short activation distance allows me to be just a tiny bit faster than on a "normal" keyboard.
The keycaps are not the best quality though. (And since it's not a normal mx clone switch, they will be harder to replace)
Also, the detachable cable is stupid though - you can't replace it because most normal microusb cables won't fit in that tiny opening in the case.
But overall, fot that price, it's good.

>>62206263
ISO is dumb and ugly, learn to use the proper ansi™ layout.

>>62206126
>>62206297
It's a shame the leds are blue color and the switch is also blue. Must be loud af.

>>62206342
quieter than cherry blue, but (obviously) louder than non clicky switches.

>>62206384
Would you care to record a video typing on it? I would like to hear how it sounds.

can someone tell me what's the keyboard in OP's post? it looks really nice

>>62206342
>>62206408
Well, the colour is obviously a personal preference, but I like the shade of it. It looks reserved, "non-gamery".
https://youtu.be/9UhLZ9AWHJM?t=7m14s comparison with MX Blue

>>62206255
Shit where to get these blanks?

>>62206408
I'm using it at work so I can do it on monday.
But there are several videos on youtube already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UhLZ9AWHJM&t=6m28s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKQhUlKeck&t=2m25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MiO-dYWzac&t=2m34s

>>62206436
It's literally in the OP as well as on the keyboard itself.

>>62206529
I would love to get this keyboard but too bad I'm fucking German which means I need a keyboard with a German layout.

>>62206531
i'm probably retarded but magicforce doesn't give me a lot to work with

>be me
>love my gateron blues tada68
>play TF2 again for the first time on months, after mostly sitting on xcom when I had time at all
>mfw the longer key travel compared to rubber domes made it awkward when playing fast-paced

Should I get this flat meme you guys are talking about right now? Or should I look for something with kailh speed reds or some shit? I have no regard for keycaps and build quality because I'm literally only going to use it for FPS games

>>62206587
I think it's called Magicforce 84, being the tkl version (inb4 someone proves that I'm the retard here). Search on aliexpress or something

>>62206547
Learn to use QWERTY and use right alt for the umlauts. QWERTZ was a mistake.
Or just touch type and ignore the key legends.

>>62206636
Are you German? Because that's easier said than done :)

>>62206587
Qisan Magicforce 86 + Taihao Miami caps

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>>62206065
chink edition reporting in

>>62206658
>>62206626
thanks guys uwu

>>62206647
Polish. So my language also has a few "strange" letters.

The oOfficial" polish keyboard is also qwertz (with different accents than the german one, obviously), but since back in the 80s-90s it was hard to get anything in that layout, many people just used what was most widely available, which is QWERTY.
Now almost nobody uses the qwertz layout (I don't even know if it's still possible to buy a new keyboard in the polish qwertz layout) and most people prefer qwerty. Apple was probably the last company who tried to sell laptops with the "national" keyboard and didn't understand why everyone opted to order and wait longer for american layout.
My first computer had QWERTZ keyboard, every one after that had QWERTY. Using alt for some letters quickly becomes a habit and that leaves more keys for easily available symbols. Better for programming.

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Why this is garbage so expensive

>>62206884
they are like unicorns and people value unicorns much better that a horde of orks

>>62206884
this layout is ridiculous

>massdrop has tada68s

Holy shit hold me

>>62206884
>tfw can't justify buying it due to buying into the veearr meme
fudge, regret what i spent my little money on.

>>62207034
I saw it but I went with an ALPS kbp instead because datacomp ALPS look interesting and I like my ALPS and ALPS clones

>>62206927
>>62207003
>>62207035
What is so special about that colorway as to spend $140 dollars on it?

You can buy an entire realforce for that price and the default keycaps look basically the same.

>>62206884
Because you're looking at the premium ABS version rather than the thicc dyesub PBT version

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Just built this. 22mini B from winkeyless kr. Gateron yellows with korean 55g springs. sorry for shit photo

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this is in one of the other threads but is this still accurate? seems to say that blues are worse than clears

>>62208140
You go blues cause you want the click and a little bit of tactile, if you want tactile go clears
The picture is obviously an exaggeration but the opinions are still kinda true

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Newly released: Unicomp's Ultra Classic in Pearl White. Been lurking their site for months and now that it's here, I don't think I want it (shipping is $60 to Canada). Buy now and they'll throw in colored ansi keys for lower price. Dunno.

>>62208170
i basically want to feel a lot of resistance and have it require more weight to actuate. are clears better than blues if i have that specific preference?

>>62208140
>most gaterons in "pretty good territory"

A+ opinions

>>62206529
Are there low profile, compact versions that I could use as a travel keyboard? Are there any that also support bluetooth?

ok with cherry browns, and getting the chink hhkb posted last thread. what is a similar gateron switch?

>>62206065
Leddit-tier
>>62208199
>shipping is $60 to Canada
Really? That is absolutely insane. Depending on where you're located it may well be cheaper for you to pick it up in person, and make a road trip out of it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071HBFN2T/

Any good, lads?

>>62208636
probably not. buy it and tell us

>>62208606
Gatreon browns

>>62208231
Think of clears as heavier browns with a bigger bump and greens as heavier blues.

>>62208636
Why don't you read the reviews cs cuck?

>>62208231
better off with greens than blues

>>62208787
wanted greens but they werent an option. i ended up with clears. is that better for what i want compared to blues?

>>62208805
that will still be good. everyone seems to like them. they are definitely heavy so they're what you want unless you wanted a click

is Cherry mx blue really that loud?

>>62206111
QuickFire Rapid
Linus approved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S9LIT-hdc

>>62208833
as far as the "click" goes, is that just audible? or is there an actually difference you can feel?

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>>62206065
Hello guys, my first post here, so let's hope this goes well ;)

Here it is:

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you. Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today. It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products. The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2017, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.


I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

So I already ordered the new usb-c poker 2 and was wondering if anyone knows whether you can solder backlight leds to it like the original poker 2

>>62208858
k120 is pretty sick desu

>>62208858
This thread is for mechanical keyboards rubber dome shill

>>62208856
the click feels and sounded like clicking a mouse basically. I would say just stick with the clears. the clicky switches are cool if youve never used them before but they eventually get annoying. especially if you live with anyone else and want to type at night

what's a good keyboard for mashing out code that isn't too loud

>>62208858
That's pretty much F-91W of the watch thread. Exquisite board.

>>62208835
yeah I have a quickfire blue and it's loud as fuck

>>62208922
anything with linear switches wont be too loud. for even quieter look for a board with mx silent red switches

>>62208939
I have some knockoff browns in my current keyboard and they're mediocre, I'll look into the silent reds

>>62208922
>>62208951
The loudness is caused by plastic hitting plastic. Cherry keyboards suffer from a loud sound regardless unless you put some o-rings or some mythical clips on it.

Just try pressing your browns slowly, tap them, etc, you'll see what I mean. The sound is both from bottoming out and returning.

>>62208630
I thought $60 shipping, which is nearly the cost of the keyboard itself, was a bit fishy. I went to the USPS calculator and typed in the size and weight of this keyboard and to my surprise that's how much it costs to ship it. Made in USA Model M keyboard. Just those words make me want it. Clearly I've fallen for the myth and legend.

who are reds for?

>>62208989
That's why the silent reds are good. They are doubleshot with softer material that dampens this without reducing the travel. o rings and landing pads are total shit and they dont reduce the sound of the key returning to the top.

>>62209105
That's weird. I sent a pair of boots to canada that weighed a ton and it was only 37 dollars.

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>>62209173
>>62209219
reds are great. as long as theyre lubed theres nothing wrong with them. linear switches are for anyone that just wants a solid keyboard with no added frills. the keys just go straight down. that's all you need. no need for any tactile feeling for many people. light springs and no extra resistance allows you to touch type with very minimal pressure.

>>62209320
Isn't lubing a meme? It's not like you can dunk the keyboard into the oil and replace keycaps after. Or at least just put a drop into the switch without disassembling each.

>>62209384
The lubing is really for enthusiasts (autists) only. It does help reduce the scratchy ness of the switches and feels nice. The switch stickers also are a nice touch to the feel. It can be skipped but if you are willing to take everything apart why not. It's just really tedious and takes a long time. Every switch must be de soldered and opened. It really only makes sense to do if you're building a board.

Working on narrowing down my options.

>Budget
No more than $150
>Location (continent at least)
Ohio
>Preferred switch type
Reds maybe? Almost thinking of nature whites. I have blue but hate the click and can't tell if it's the weight or just the click that I hate.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Full size, but I really like the idea of the TK style that CoolerMaster has where it's a TKL size but it has a numpad since that is a necessity for me.
>Backlight
Would be nice. Not necessary I feel. But maybe just a white backlight?
>Previous/current keyboards
Leopold FC750R. Love the feel of the PBT keys, the heft of the board, just how quality it feels, but god I don't like blues.

Currently considering the CM Masterkeys Pro M, either the regular or the RGB version if I can find one on a deal, with reds. I mostly type but also game and I just can't do both well enough with blues. Browns might be fine, too, but I tried a friend's K70 with browns and I hated the feeling of it (might've just been the awful keycaps compared to the Leopold's.)

>>62209173
people who never modded ALPS switches

are browns genuinely bad? moving up from rubberdome and they were recommended (i've only tested razer greens and cherry mx "speed")

>>62209787
Purists think anything that's not buckling spring/heavy/odd is bad.

>>62209787
yes
they feel like linears but more rough, they are barely tactile at all
I only like my gay rainbow corsair board with browns because it sounds decent with the metal panel for some reason
But it's not even close to my favorite board and I much prefer my older boards

>>62209805
but buckling spring has rubber :^)
not real mechanical same as topre

>>62209670
just get reds. either on the CM you mentioned or a filco.

>>62209173
muh games

>>62206065
Why are all the Topre switch keycap sets for the HHKB garbage and not a good Topre kb like the Realforce 87U?

>>62209992
because there's low deman for topre keycap sets compared to mx stem. theres less companies that even make them at all.

>>62210006
That doesn't answer the question at all

>>62210020
if you used sensible grammar in the original post, i would have understood your question.

>>62210076
There was zero mention of Topre switch competitors in the post, I can't dumb down posts for the illiterate to be able to understand.

>>62210020
Because the HHKB is undeniably the best selling Topre keyboard, with Leopold probably outselling Realforce too.

>>62210103
>Because the HHKB is undeniably the best selling Topre keyboard
I forgot premium boards only sold for circlejerking on geekhack and not for productivity these days

>>62209827
>topre
>mechanical
pick one

>>62210112
>bitching about premium keyboards on the mechanical keyboard general

>>62210151
>you're not allowed to buy premium keyboards and actually use them instead of just taking photos of them

>>62210138
I said it wasn't, just like buckling spring

I can't decide whether I should stick with colemak or revert to qwerty, I'm now slower with both than I used to be with just qwerty

>>62210158
I think someone's jealous.

>>62210165
I mean if your definition of mechanical includes NKRO then sure, but capacitive buckling springs do exist.

>>62210223
I have a Realforce, ie a real Topre keyboard, I don't need that poorfag HHKB bullshit

>>62210228
it doesn't have to be nkro to be mech
it snaps into a rubber

>>62208199
>>62209105
Companies can and do manage to ship similar weight/volume for a fraction of what Unicomp charges. It just means they never made any effort to sort out exporting. Business accounts that ship any sort of volume do not pay full price on shipping. It doesn't even have to be that much for a steep discount as long as it's steady. Streamlining your process and figuring out your optimal shipping options reduces costs further. Many countries even have electronic customs filing so you can have taxes calculated ahead of time and handled during checkout so there's no surprise $30 "processing" fee on top of the tax at the receiver's end. Amazon has this shit on lockdown and it's a big part of why they're so successful.

t. Logistics

>>62210112
Yeah no shit
What do you expect when most people who work with a keyboard use some cheap standard rubberdome

Are there any chain stores in the US that sell mechanical keyboards where I could go and try out the different kinds of switches?

>>62210453
microcenter

>>62210453
Best Buy, Fry's, etc. PC gaming is blowing up and your local chain will most likely have at least one mechanical.

>>62210112
>productivity
>caring about aftermarket keycaps

>>62210559
>not

>>62210578
Are you sure you can read and follow a conversation

>>62210453
Fry's stocks basic cherry mx mechanical keyboards from what I've seen. Sometimes you can test them out if somebody else opened up the boxes.

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How much are you willing to spend on one keyboard?

Where can I get some keycaps for my tada68 because it has that abnormal sized right shift. I ordered some like an idiot without realizing it.

>>62211185
You could probably grab a 2u key on Pimp My Keyboard. A lot of group buys provide 2us as well.

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should i find a board with gateron reds or clears or get one with cherry mx reds?

I saw this at PAX for $60 and it seems like a good deal
www.amazon.com/dp/B074F5L8GQ

>>62211185
Most Premium ABS (GMK), SP and EnjoyPBT kit has 2u shift.

>>62210381
Problem with Unicomp is they only sell one keyboard a week, so no way they're getting volume pricing.

>>62211239
I bought the taihou MIami off massdrop right now and I don't think they come with it. I guess ill have to just buy a knew kit

>>62211178
Not more than the cost of a Ducky One.

I've bought more keyboards than I care for, but at least I haven't gone down the custom keycaps rabbit hole, much less diy boards.

>>62211265
Protip, don't buy Taihao.

>>62211219
Gateron Reds are smoother than Cherrys.

Unless it's a dedicated gaming board, I wouldn't recommend linear switches. They're prone to mistakes.

>>62211279
I liked the meme colors tho but it was probably a stupid mistake

>>62211246
I doubt they actually do that few, but 4 shipments/mo is enough for significant benefits in some cases.

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>>62211303
Keep an eye out for Laser.

tada68 on mass drop

y/n

>>62211470
If you just want Gaterons, it's basically the same price on KBDFans and you'll get it within 2 weeks instead of 3+ months.

>>62211470
That has many options.
but
>Estimated ship date is Dec 4, 2017 PT.

>>62211470
I have it with gateron browns and it is very nice. Better than my ducky shine 5 with mx browns

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>>62211185
>abnormal sized
It's just a 1.75u. Most keycap sets will have one for you. Search harder.
Be glad you don't have a Leopold 660M which requires a second 2.25u Shift.

>>62211290
I liked the feel of reds the best. But I guess it's hard to get an actual feel for the switches when you are just mashing on them for a couple seconds

>>62211774
I tried to like Reds, but not knowing whether or not I'm pressing a key disorients me, so much so that I usually go back to my other tactile boards (such as buckling springs or Matias) soon afterwards.

I'll probably try it again in a few days, but I wouldn't recommend a Red board to someone unless they have another keyboard to quickly switch back to.

>>62211857
Blacks are better than reds, the heavier spring weight makes it more obvious whether they're being pressed or not.

I have a white quickfire rapid tk but the non-standard bottom row ruins it for me. Does anyone know if the coolermaster masterkeys m can be transplanted into the qfr?

>>62211290

Personally I wouldn't right off linear switches. The Romer Gs that I use are linear and while they might be a meme they feel very nice to the touch even when typing. Mistake wise I doubt that could be an issue once he gets used to them

>>62211941
I may try something with Gateron Blacks someday, though right now I have more keyboards than I know what to do with.Currently have a Unicomp, Type Heaven, Matias Quiet Pro, Ducky One w/ Reds, and (currently) a MK Fission w/ Blues.

>>62211753
Ok thank you for the advice

>tfw have the razer blackwidow chroma
Feels good man. Sorry you're all poorfags.

>>62212198
Please never post on this website again

>>62212210
Jealousy is a cruel mistress indeed.

Got to pay the most to be the best.

>>62212198
>$140 tops
>thinks he's not a poorfag
Razer users are cute.

>>62212257
All your crying about the price in productreviews would suggest otherwise, Pablo.

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>not having a cnc milled aluminum keyboard

>>62212284
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of typing on my $700 total completely custom keyboard.

>>62212289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHBqqQJ2Zs
also this is how real keyboards are made

>>62211470
Only if you want Zealios, then you can get it for around $110. If you want Gateron, then just buy it off of KBDfans.

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>>62212284
Sorry faggot, I can't hear you over my $1000 keyboard.

>>62212614
That seems like an underestimation unless those are Chinese clone artisans.

>>62212614
>geek hack
>octumus prime buttons
just kill yourself already...

>>62212354
Why the hell do I like these Chinks so much?
>Taiwan
Ah, that explains it.

>>62212657
But the more artisans you have, the more upboats you get.

>>62212685
>artisans
>upboars
i dont know what any of this means
are you the special snowflake?

>>62212711
Are you this new?

>>62212722
obviously

>Someone mentioned zealio purples and MOD switches last thread
>Find them, but they're not already on a keyboard size I'm looking for
>Starting to look like a custom build now
nope nope nope

>>62208922
Matias quiet click

>>62212807
Custom builds are so much better, because you can actually clip your Cherry stabilizers and lube them so that they feel 100 times better. And having an aluminum case is pretty nice, because your keyboard will NEVER slide around again. I recommend you buy MOD switches because they're more tactile and cheaper than Zealios, plus fuck Zeal.

>>62210210
Stick with it

>>62211178
Depends which board.

I paid $440 or so (with shipping) for my F77. I'd pay $500 for an ergodox with a proper aluminium case and alps pbt keycaps.

>>62212034
That's not a lot. Get a blacks one

>>62212807
Get a KBD75 like everyone else:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/group-buy/products/kbd75-keyboard-set?variant=35638536141

Are Ducky keyboards good or should I buy from other brands? I'm interested in the Ducky one TKL.

>>62213555
Ducky's pretty good yeah. Hard to go wrong with them

I've been using the RealForce 87u 55g for the last 3 month. It's grown on me I have to admit, but I need a small sized keyboard for home, and I feel like trying something with similar feels but Gateron, PBT keycaps. Anything I can buy?

>>62210210
Depends. Are you going to work on other people's machines? It will be embarrassing if you will have to look at the keys. Unfortunately, the worldwide baby duck syndrome with "default" typewriter layouts is here to stay.

The most important thing from my switch to Dvorak was learning touch-typing. Other than that, it's more hassle since Windose is wonky with it. Though typing in it is comfy as fuck.

You'll pick up the speed, don't worry.

>>62211972
Aren't Romer-G supposed to be tactile with similar resistance but shorter travel than MX Browns? I.e. isn't there a soft bump that people who lift with their fingers simply might not feel?

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Just bought a Ducky One TKL RGB with red switches.

Would it be a good idea to put O-Rings on the keyboard or will the doubleshot ABS keycaps dampen the sound enough?

I'm looking for that heavy/deep sound, similar to this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LUTXO-Tkc

My QFR-i has a very tinny/clicky sound and it feels very hollow to type on, because of the ABS keycaps.

>>62213686
In what world is the 87u not already a small keyboard?

>>62213803
now i want a keyboard that will say Quack instead of click

>>62213555
Ducky is great. Varmilo, Filco, and Leopold are great too, but Ducky has been really beating everyone out lately with their $100ish boards that are also PBT, or even dye-sub PBT. Chinese boards like the Tada and Anne Pro are really good too, and those are cheaper.

>>62213820

>https://youtu.be/TL80SoX4oiw?t=4m16s
ez

>>62213686
55g isn't too heavy? I want to buy it

>>62213803
O-rings just make boards feel like they're rubber dome. You could go for those damping pads or the silencing clips like QMX-clips or Zealencios. Considering the price of silencing clips, you should try the damping pads.

>>62213840
The perfect work keyboard for an open office.

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>>62213840
These suggestions... truly a keyboard that I desire!

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Ducky one TKL with MX Clears or Tada68 with zealios?

>>62214431
The Tada68 is pretty good, but if you can't live without your F keys, just get the Ducky One. Also if you want lighter tactile switches and get typing fatigue from heavy switches, go Zealios.

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So I need some advice on new keycaps, I feel like replacing the keys around the number pad on the duck duck shine and the numpad number keys on the Kingston Hyperx. But I'm not entirely sure which colors I want.

Red and pink are strong contestants.

Keep in mind that the HyperX only has red back-light and that one green key looks a bit silly because it's red.

inb4 shill manlet complains that I like keyboards with a number pad: nobody cares about your manlet opinion. I bet you're shilling because you're a poorfag who doesn't even have 100 BTC.

>>62214588
Who are you attacking?

>>62214588
Get two sets of GMK Yuri

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I got a Corsair K70 (meme board), and I'd like to own something compact, TKL and portable for usage with my laptop when I'm not at home.
Any recommendations? I'd like TKL instead of 60%, don't care which kind of switch as long as it's good to type on (not game)

>>62214588
Jesus Christ that's ugly. Nice mango and melon color combo, it looks like vomit. And stop worrying about stupid LEDs, shine-through keycaps are all crap quality anyway.

Just get these, you can actually use them since they're Cherry-profile PBT as opposed to looking at them, which is what you shouldn't do.
Blank: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36740706829

Legends: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys

>>62214678
Just get a Tada68 or Anne Pro and you can place it on top of your keyboard laptop.

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>>62214631
That manlet shill who's always monitoring this thread regardless of when you visit /g/ who's shilling those microscopic manlet keyboards and over-priced kbdfans capcaps, obviously.

This guy:

>>62214706
I didn't get RGB keyboards and a red back-lit keyboard to have ugly over-priced low-quality non-shine-through keycaps on it.

>>62214674
That manlet keyboard doesn't even have a numberpad? But the keycaps it does have look nice.

>>62214741
Your keyboard is a keeblet compared to my Model M

what the fuck is this meme of keyboards lighting up with a shit ton of colours? is everyone autistic?

>>62214770
>not turning off the LEDs

>>62214770
You're in a thread with people who collect keyboards so yes

>>62214741
>I didn't get RGB keyboards and a red back-lit keyboard to have ugly over-priced low-quality non-shine-through keycaps on it.
>muh RGB

So you got an RGB keyboard to make it more ugly with disgustingly colored keycaps, bravo. Also /g/ isn't one person, we all recommend EnjoyPBT here because they're actually functional keycaps for $38, the same price as your shitty shine-through caps. You should also listen to yourself, you sound like a child that's more interested in your light up toy than an actual keyboard that you're going to use. You're also using manlet wrong, but I'm not going to correct you because it's funny watching you embarrass yourself.

>>62214770
Everyone who isn't a retard turns them off

>>62214770
It's usually just the /v/ kiddies that come in here once asking for keyboards. They usually just get angry when we tell them their Corsair keyboard is trash, then they leave forever.

>>62214828
To be fair Corsair keyboards aren't trash, they are just overpriced as fuck.

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>>62214838
The bottom row alone makes them trash. Having a 6.5u spacebar for the sake of cheaper production is inexcusable.

>>62214678
Check out:
>>62206126
>>62206469

>>62214865
I don't like short travel. After looking some I foundd the Anne Pro to look pretty good so I think I'm going to get one of those.

Anyone using the TADA68 with ISO-layout?

>>62214874
You are falling for keyboardlet meme

>>62214900
I have a full size keyboard for my desktop, I want a small and compact keyboard to take with me on the go in my bag to use with my laptop. I don't need a full size keyboard for that.

>>62214914
You said you didn't want 60%. Anne Pro is not even 75%

>>62214900
>wants a portable keyboard
>gets a portable keyboard
>DURRR MANLET KEYBOARD

What part of portable don't you understand? Just leave already, you're only embarrassing yourself.

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Keyboard is more than ten years old. Space and shift get stuck a lot. But I'm just like you guys because it's loud as fuck and that's all that matters right?

>>62214928
>I'd like TKL instead of 60%
What part of it you didn't get?

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>>62214939
No, you must go louder.

>>62214939
Nice, very retro. Do A and left shift have legends rubbed off? Is this a CRT display?

>>62214925
Yeah but TKL ones still look too big. I'd like to have a TKL in a 60% size but at this point I don't think I mind.

>>62214943
60% is more portable than TKL, I know this is hard for you to understand. Plus the OP chose 60% already >>62214874, you're only BTFO'ing yourself.

can't tell if people are being ironic in this thread or not

>>62214957
>not beamspring
Ishygddt

>>62214969
If you want something closer to TKL, there's the Plum84:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84/32767632458.html

People like the Noppoo Choc Mini too if you can find it for cheap.

>>62214987
His pocket, his loss. It's neither me nor you BTFO'ing ourselves here.

>>62215000
The word you're looking for is Autistic.

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>>62214960
Yeah, A and left shift are rubbed. The monitor isn't CRT (though my television is), it's just some old as fuck generic 5:4 TFT.
>fujitsu siemens scienceview a17-1

>>62215029
Stick to your RGB, kid. The adults are speaking here, no one is listening to you.

>>62215043
Post your /lgbt/-flag 60%

>>62214431
I got the ducky one tkl w/ mx clears and i love it

Is it possible to do the Ergo Clear mod on a ducky one tkl?

>>62215233
If you enjoy pain, sure. Here's the best video I could on how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzvCM3UEHAg&t=0s

Hey guys. I'm looking for a cherry blue keyboard. Something like the vortex race 3 layout and DSA keys but backlit (doesn't have to be RGB, just white). I'd like to keep the price under 150.
I'm also looking for a super compressed tenkey board

>>62206065
i scratched some keys of my ducky
anyone knows where can i purchase the same? Im also open to upgrade them if theres something better out there

>>62215358
>i scratched some keys of my ducky
>anyone knows where can i purchase the same
You really shell out more money just because of some scratches? The fuck is wrong with you?

>>62215372
>comes to an autistic board specifically about keyboards
>surprised they're autistic about keyboards

>>62215358
Just get EnjoyPBT blanks and call it day. If you really want shine-through, there's Vortex keycaps.

>>62206113
>being this retarded

>>62214203
Those suggestions are based on your history goldstein

Just tried out Gateron blues, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

>>62215959
Your day is ruined? Just return it and try something else

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>>62212614
Adding meme keys doesn't make your board worth as much as mine. gtfo.

>>62215973
It's a meme you dip

>>62215959
What's wrong with them?

>>62215358
Gimme your keycaps bb

>>62215938
I know, but it was fitting. It could have shown Terry or some outright retarded shit I watched, but instead it's toy keyboard with classical music suggestions.
Goldberg Variations is a thing by Bach, great for background. Give it a listen.

>>62215973
>>62215989
They feel bad and sound bad. I was looking foward to this keyboard because apparently gaterons are so good, I got it today and I just hate it. They don't feel tactile at all and the sound when typing on them is annoying. I like my Model M a lot better.

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I know this shit is subjective, but:
If I like Gateron Brown, should I get Zealio 65g or 67g?

>>62216086
Just get heavier springs for your browns. Much cheaper.

>>62216097
Nah, this is for my second board.

>>62216107
Then buy Gateron browns for 1/5 the cost of zealios and add springs yourself

>>62216086
Get MODs instead, or listen to this anon >>62216157, but make Ergo Clears instead.

>>62216157
Thanks, but yeah no. I'm at the point in my life where I have some spare money and not much spare time.

>>62216223
Money is not the problem here, guys. Just the difference between 65g and 67g.

>>62216238
2 grams.

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>>62216285

>>62216238
MODs and Ergo Clears feel much more tactile though, especially correctly made Ergo Clears.

What is the most tactile Cherry switch?

>>62216521
The answer is going to be some meme switch with like 500g actuation force

>>62216083
Clicky gaterons aren't necessarily better than cherry.

Would you say cherry blues are more tactile?

>>62216521
Some monstrosity like a Invyr Gatistotle that uses a 60g spring, Gateron base, Invyr housing, and Aristotle stem. If you really want the most tactility possible, you should just be looking at Alps switches. When I was using a tester, the most tactile MX switch I found was a MOD-M.

> If you really want the most tactility possible, you should just be looking at Alps switches
Not him, but if I understand correctly, Alps have been rebranded under the Matias name.
What is the average opinion on Matias switches and Matias keyboards?

>>62217216
Matias is just a clone, as the original alps patent expired. However, it's the best known clone right now, and a safe choice (even though various other chinkshit is popping up right now). Generally the opinion is:
Complicated alps > matias > simplified alps
Since finding complicated alps is a pain in the ass, matias is the "definitive" alps switch right now.

Matias/alps are much more tactile than MX switches. They're sometimes considered almost on par with buckling springs. Moreover, matias quiet click has built-in silencing on both the upstroke and downstroke, making it much more silent than almost any MX switch (except perhaps silenced reds or something) while only sacrificing a tiny bit of the tactile feeling (so it's still better than any MX switch).

The problem with them is that due to the alps stem, keycaps are much harder to find - in particular, there are no modern PBT keycaps, at all. This means you must either wait until Matias starts producing theirs (supposedly promised sometime next year), or scavenge them off an old alps keyboard (e.g. a vintage apple).

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>>62217392
>in particular, there are no modern PBT keycaps, at all

That's not true, there's Granite now if you can handle DSA.

Is the dell AT101W a good mechanical keyboard?

>>62217392
Thanks.
>They're sometimes considered almost on par with buckling springs.
Which is why I was interested in buying a Matias keyboard, but I've read they suffer from QC issues. Is it true or is it just a overblown problem?

>keycaps are much harder to find
Matias keyboards have those Apple-like caps, that come in ABS that doesn't seem to be that great.

>>62217509
Are those more expensive than the keyboard itself?

>>62217596
Are you a balding Brit with a hoarding problem?

>>62217596
yes, but only after you click mod them or take out the tactility leaf
the second of with is easiar to do
but for 20-40 bucks it's decent
there are much better old alps keyboards out there though, most people use at101w for custom builds since the board itself is decent but not many like the switches on it by default
>>62218487
my favorite video is where you can see his box closet and he has everything labeled

>>62214741
Source on that mousepad.

Someone make SA profile caps for the Model M right now

>>62217509
Let me rephrase: there are no PBT keycap sets in a usable profile.
Even SA is better, since it's sculpted.

>>62217838
The switches are naturally allergic to shipping. I think they add a few spare switches though just in case, precisely for this reason

>>62214431
ducky one TKL with mx browns reporting in
get one they are nice, looks great with miami keycaps.

>>62211219
im a programmer, tried both gateron browns and reds and i like the reds the most (and prefer them over cherry reds as well). Haven't tried cherry browns tho.
its a subjective stuff ofc, but ill go for the gateron reds over the cherrys

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>>62219963
>>62219983
go back to plebbit you arent welcome here

>>62208858
had one for 4 years no issues until the rubber on the E key started going out. easily one of the best keyboards i've ever owned

>>62208140
The "pretty good tbqh senpai" catagory, what are those? Anyone?

>>62208858

I'd definitely recommend the Microsoft Wired Keyboard 400 for anyone looking for a similar board, served me well for 4 years

>>62220973
Chinkerons

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>>62221125
>Chinkerons

>>62214863
>>62214838
Corsair is over-priced ghetto trash. Uneven led brightness and unpredictably bouncy switches sent me right back to Apple memeboards. I havent bought another mechanical since. I'll probably just build because I don't wanna get burned again.

I want a Sun Type 6 layout. No one is doing this.

>>62212833
My budget is only $100, maybe a little bit more if there's a good reason for it, but I'm already hitting that with just the pcb and switches.

I'll keep looking for MOD-M implements or TKL kits. Otherwise I'll just go with Cherry Clears.

Is there any switch heavier than buckling springs?

>>62217838
>I've read they suffer from QC issues.

The simplified Alps design is sensitive to poor installation. If you bend the pins or let one get pushed partway back up into the switch housing before soldering them into place, the switch plates can be misaligned and lead to switch malfunction. Hamhanded chink manufacturers like KBP are more likely to fuck this up and this is why all of their Vboards with Matias are more prone to issues than other Matias or simplified Alps boards.

>>62208140
The "exceptionally tactile" on a cherry clear (or MX anything твн) amuses me to no end.

Are mechanical keyboards the purest form of autism known to man?

>>62222597
no

>>62222550
Please, don't circumvent wordfilters.

>>62222597
lisp is

>>62223029
You didn't even read SICP to judge.

I want to build a 65% OR WKL with some white Alps I have. Need to use PCB, Alliminum case 12000% prefered

What are my options for

A. Cases that aren't $400

B. Caps that aren't vintage and aren't DSA Granite

>>62222428
Buckling springs are only like 80g on Ms (70g or so on Fs iirc), which isn't too much. There are a bunch of meme switches that are heavier, although most are out of production. An example is Super Blacks or whatever they're called.

So zealios are just gateron browns right?

how much could I sell my white poker 2 with mx clears for?

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Why is is go goddamn hard to find a bluetooth keyboard with Gateron blues?

>>62223275
Customised springs. As I read Gateron erroneously released some Zealios switches under its name.

>>62223295

anne pro

>>62209840
I find that when I can't decide if one of two things make me hate something, it's usually both.
You probably hate it due to both the click and the weight, so go for a light linear

I can't decide if I want a tactile or linear switch, I use a Model M right now and love it but I want a keyboard with customization. Should I get a linear switch since I already have a tactile keyboard?

Is the FC750PD the same keyboard that FC750R but with double-shot PBT keycaps?
I want a FC750R, but they're out of stock everywhere (Europe).

>>62207045
Enjoy your key chatter, the kbp boards are fucked.

>>62216481
Clears also have a larger stem that makes it a pain in the ass to swap keycaps and increases your chances of accidentally pulling the stem out of the switch.

>>62224233
Yes it is the same other than the caps. Just get that, the doubleshot pbt is worth a few extra bucks.

>>62224422
I think i will. Couldn't find much info on the PD and was afraid that the PD was a shit compared to the FC750R.
Thanks bro.

I can get a hhkb for about $170 should I do it?

>>62223275
I am typing on a Zealios board right now it's similar to a mx clear more than any other stock switch but doesn't have the cherry scratchiness.
If you get a board with the switches don't lube them it makes them lose their tactility

>>62224837
Only worth if you're flipping it. That's still way too much for a 60-key rubberdome board to actually use.

>>62224864
The best way I can describe the loss in tactility is that the bump goes from a pronounced bump to a subtle one that when typing you have to think about to notice

>>62224866
I paid a little less for my filco board at about 150 so I don't think its too much to drop 170 on a keyboard and the electro-capacative nature of the switches is a nice novelty

>>62224916
Not a fan of the way the domes fart. You can sort of tune it out if you don't think about it but the instant something reminds you, you can hear them pfft pfft pfft again.

>>62225679
Yeah it's the same when you fuck a girl

>>62225679
Chill out virgin typer

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new keebs

>>62224343
I'm doing it for the switches, since I see them literally nowhere else, if key chatter is an issue I can transplant

>>62213735
>Are you going to work on other people's machines?
Yeah, I have my own work desktop but I'm always helping out other people at work and showing them my leet skills on my PC. I don't care how I look to other people, but having to look at the keys kinda sucks.

>>62216562
t. finglet

>>62206113
you have to get the rune spell of Thor the thunder god. This can before found on z level -6 in dwarf fortress when you kill the necromancer. Take this spell to Hacker Man and he will then transform you new key layout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEkrWRHCDQU

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>tfw this was in my mother's old electronics pile
>got it for free, just need to clean it up

>paying hundreds of dollars for fancy mechanical keyboards

Will using an ortholinear at home fuck up my muscle memory when using normie keyboards elsewhere?

I have a Qisan Magicforce (like OP's but default ugly layout.)

Where can I get a better looking keycap set without breaking the bank?

Also it sucks not having function keys, is there some software that makes shortcuts easier?

Checking ebay like I periodically do, I came across this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIY-Custom-mechanical-keyboard-PCB-84-Keys/272817823126 I love the layout, and would like a second board it says he'll give me the scheme for the board, and none of these posts line up with any of the other cases I've seen... Does anyone have the file for this board? Or even heard of it before?

>>62226830
Yes. Same reason dvorak/colemak are memes you can never actually use in the real world.

>>62226830
>>62226877

no.
use ortholinear split programmers dvorak mechanical keyboard at home.
use standard laptop qwerty at work on the go.
use split qwerty at work desk.

similar speeds on all of them.

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>assemble your PC
>only skill needed is being able to stick the right plug in the right hole
>get more bang for your buck
>assemble your own keyboard
>you need to know how to solder
>pay at least three times what you'd pay any commercially available keyboard
Explain this /mkg/!

>>62227052
No.

>>62227052
the market niche for kit keyboards is smaller than your spacebar

>>62227052
No mass produced standardised keyboard parts.

>>62222504
>Hamhanded chink manufacturers like KBP are more likely to fuck this up and this is why all of their Vboards with Matias are more prone to issues than other Matias or simplified Alps boards.
What about Matias actual keyboards? Do their manufacturing line sucks so much or are they fine, other than the shit caps?

>>62227052
You're paying for the customization. The parts are small run (outside of most keyswitches), which runs up the production cost.

You can use a store bought keyboard, but it won't be to your exact specifications. It's the same for most things, small production run = higher price

>>62223477

>arrow keys require fn
>vomiting_anime_girl.gif

No thanks.

>>62222597
That would be LEGO.

>>62227176
Matias' own boards are fine. Shame about the glossy cases and ABS caps though.

>>62224083
You might as well, since buying another tactile board is redundant. I've tried other tactile switches such as Blues and Matias and they aren't as good as Buckling Springs anyway.

>>62226867
I see everyone putting the Miami set on their Magicforces.

>>62227176
I have the latest version of their Quiet Pro. Aside from the spacebar getting stuck (which fixed itself after slapping the key), it works just fine.

>>62227405
>>62227405
>>62227405

>>62227052
>not buying 1970's mainframe terminal keyboards for cheap with better build quality than anything modern and converting them over to USB for less than the price of a modern upper tier commercial memechanical with caps three times as thick as the massdrop monstrocities

Your keyboard-fu is weak Daniel-san.

>>62227052
>he doesn't buy cheap shit mx switches or dell at101ws (alps) for his customs

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>want to buy a comfortably low price mechanical keyboard
>decide to check /g/ to see recommendations
>get paranoid I'm not buying the absolute top-tier equipment

God dammit.

>>62224083
It's a personal preference, I prefer linear switches.

>>62226914
Did you mean to prefix all those use sentences with "I" ?