/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

>>62178752
Are there any fake 9-cells roaming around? If so, how would I differentiate the original?

>>62178790
is it chink?
then it's fake

>>62178812
so if it says lenovo it's fine? doesn't say that it's repackaged or something

>>62178812
Are they good enough for the tablets which have no official 9-cell?

>>62178873
Pretty sure they wont fit.

>>62179013
What about this for example? http://www.ebay.com/itm/261975720863. How does it even bypass the battery whitelist?

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Got a t440p and looking for a 2242 m.2 SSD

Why the fuck is the 2242 M.2 form factor so sparse? It's similar size to mSATA but with a different connection. mSATA SSD's are abundant but 2242 M.2 isn't, but why? Not enough demand for it? I thought there was quite a few laptops with 2242 M.2 slots. I've only been able to find KingSpec ones which every review says they die within 4 months, I've seen some ADATA ones but they're usually from very shady/obscure sites and sellers.

first for waiting for my £50 x60t to arrive

>>62179115
>>62178873
>>62178790

Read reviews, read feedback for seller, make sure you pay for it via paypal so if need be dispute the purchase and get a refund.

Most fake batteries will be the advertised size HOWEVER they will degrade much quicker. For my X220 I have a genuine 9cell direct from Lenovo, it's lasted 2 years and has only lost 6% capacity with something like 80 cycles but I recently got a "genuine" aka fake 9cell from the chinks and after 10 cycles it's already lost 7% capacity. Both are used with 90% charge limit.For $35 for a fake one I am not complaining though, it still lasts a good 6+ hours of continuous use/web browsing/watching videos/writing.

>>62178752
I have a x220 tablet and the pressure sensitive pen I have works in applications from Windows like notes and the handwriting tool, but for some reason I cannot get it to work in Paint Tool SAI or GIMP. Any fixes?

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Anyone know what screws are used to hold the back panel on a T440P?

8mm long, they're in the screw kit "04X5422".

Anyone uses mpv on T420 with iGPU?
What's your config?

>>62179683
To clarify, the picture is a stripped one. I need a new one. Current theory is M2.5x8.

>>62179683
Had a similar problem with a back screw for my X230. I just went into a local computer store and the guy gave me the screw for free. Alternatively, look up screw kits for that model on eBay etc, if they have a list of which ones are included, you can work it out from there.

>>62178790
>>62178812
Are you guys retarded? The official Lenovo ones are also "chink" ones.

>>62179164
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-256-SATA-Type-2240/dp/B00KLTPUG4

God knows anon. The above is the only reputable one I've seen, but they're all quite expensive.

t. T440P owner. I gave up and threw an old 840 EVO in the drive bay instead.

What modern-ish thinkpad would make a good update to a T520?

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>>62179683

https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440p_hmm_en_sp40a25467_01.pdf

Always check lenovo maintenance manual.

>>62179909

Did you buy a chink caddy or official? I think I might just buy a caddy and throw an 850 EVO into it since they've come down in price a lot.

Is a 1366x768 screen on a thinkpad bad? or should I buy a 1080p screen laptop?

>>62180167
1366x768 is fine for doing office work, but a higher resolution would be better for video and photo editing

>>62180243
Only going to use it for typing with word. And some occasionally browsing

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>>62180017
Pic related. I just duct taped the SSD in place.

>>62179164
You can shove an msata ssd there by using a little adapter as i managed to do if you want or have a spare msata ssd laying around.

The bad news is that it'll get stuck and won't come out though.

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>>62180636

i like ur thinking m8

>tfw gets email saying my w520 is "out for delivery"

ill finally be one of the cool kids

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>>62178752
Alright, tempted to pull for a X220.

€130 for a bog-standard, ex-corporate model X220 in mint condition (sans sticks).
€?? for some sort of Samsung SSD.
€70-80 for geniune Lenovo 9-cell off Amazon.

Optional: IPS screen if I feel the LCD screen isn't doing it for me.

Am I doing it wrong?

I was going to get a hard drive caddy for an x220 and I was wondering about hard drive thickness. Can I force a 9 mm hdd into a 7.5 drive caddy and just use it with less space? I think the x220 is designed for the smaller form factor hdd. What if I just didn't use a caddy at all and used the 9 mm drive anyway?

Hi Guys I would buy a thinkpad however I need a laptop more suited for my inferiority complex. What should I get.

>>62181533
T400 with Libreboot and an IBM sticker

>>62181533
Help.

>>62181686
>T400
Too good for me, I want people to think I'm a nigger

>>62181850
PowerPC Macbook

A new X250 with i5-5300U @ 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM, Full HD IPS multitouch and 256GB SSD for $900 yes/no? Store seems trying to get rid of it

>>62181859
That will just make people think i'm nuts. I think I will go with a Dell Latitude, or maybe a Samsung.

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>>62181964
how aboot this?

>>62178752
I've got a X220 with a UK ISO keyboard, my HHKB has gotten me used to US layout. Will a replacement US keyboard literally plug and play into a UK chassis?

>>62182013
yes
I recently swapped my German ISO QWERTZ for an ANSI QWERTY keyboard.

>>62181885
>for 900 dollars
More like you're retarded
You literally can get a T470 with a good config without the enterprise discount for 100 dollars more

>>62182077
Thanks, anon

>>62182000
That has the right combination of kiddy feel and ugliness. Homosexuality AND niggerdom, I like it!

>>62179906
I can't get a proper chink 9cell 44++ because no one sells it

>>62182081
Right, forgot to mention this is eastern Europe shithole. T470 starts at $1800 in roughly the same config as mentioned X250 and the $900 seem more than reasonable. Also no discounts from Lenovo (no official outlet even).

>>62179951
Thanks a ton anon.

>>62182171
Ahh then my bad
Then again I'd either advise you get a X230 or a X240

I am having difficulty finding info on the graphics cards. Is gaming even an option or am I in the wrong thread?

>>62182588
depends. modern gaming on a thinkpad is a no brainer. even with dGPU you're not gonna get enough performance for modern titles. retro gaming works of course. all I ever play is HOMM3 so I'm fine with my X60.

>>62182588
dunno i only play eroge and thinkpads work for that

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The yoga 11e is the best as we all know

>>62182588
>>62182674
Minimum settings and lowered resolution will still work fine.

what's a good babby's first thinkpad?

>>62181188
No, sounds good, especially if it's in mint condition.

>>62182992
T420/T430, cheap and upgradable as fug

>>62182992
13 or 11e

Does anybody know if the chinks at HOPE/51nb are planning to build a Raven Ridge based mobo?

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>>62182784
>>62183051
>ulv pentiums and celery soldered shit

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What did I get in the mail today??

>>62183066
P51 or T470p then

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ThinkPad 13 2G, best lightweight ThinkPad atm ?

>>62183130
Pikachu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Dp5QkNc08

T460 used but in good condition, do I do it guys?

>>62183995
not for 600 euros

I found an x220 for 99 eurobucks on eBay. It needs an SSD and a battery, but I guess 4 GB ram is fine.
Is it a good deal?
Or should I look for an x230 around 150€?
What's the difference in terms of keyboard and I/O?
Doesn't the x220 feel too old?

>>62182992
T420/430 or X220/230 for smol compupper

Why are T30s relatively rare/expensive on eBay?

I have one working but it's not in the best condition and the screen has an orange tint to it. Would it be worth anything?

>>62184008
What's the highest you would buy it at?

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>>62183219
close but no dice!

>>62184280
Nice

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>>62184280
>babby enter keys

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>>62184402
yeah it even has two adjustable feet for different heights and a few routing channels for the cable.

>>62184547
>https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/blog/2015/09/09/ansi-or-iso-which-keyboard-layout-is-more-ergonomic

How's the battery life of t430 with a 9 cell battery?

hi!

Budget: ~600
Location: usa
Size: idk 14 inches but doesnt have to be exact. just not super small but can fit in a bookbag
Performance: enough to run a virtual machine on top of windows. also at least 6 hrs bat life of normal use (note taking, programming, reading sites)
Other requirements: can't be heavy.. i have a t420 and its too heavy for me to carry to class

budget isn't 100% set in stone. honestly debating on buying a macbook air at this point

T440Pfag here, I ordered a 4810QM and the shinier dGPU heatsink. Anything I need to know or is it just a drop in replacement?

>>62178752
Any tips on battery swapping? I'm assuming 9-cells hold more charge than 6-cells, but is there anything else I should look out for?

>>62185236
depends on your use case

>>62185335
>can't carry a t420
what the h*ck
just get an x220 you weak cunt

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What are the overall differences in design theory and feel between the Thinkpad, Precision, and Elitebook?

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-X220-12-5-Touch-Tablet-Laptop-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-6GB-160GB-SSD/272822935054?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

did I do good tpg? x220 upgraded with 6gb ram and a 160gb ssd for just under 200. I think I might have been able to get something for less but at least this will get to my place by next week.

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Can you guys recommend a laptop case that will fit the T470 with the extended battery?
Pretty please.

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Debating between getting a x230 and a T430 , which is more powerful and has more features, and it's more customizable, they are practically the same price from what I've seen

>>62186900
Obviously T430 cause it's bigger and has an ultra bay. x230 is better for mobility.

What do you faggots think about the new AMD Thinkpads (A475 and A275)?

Are there any Thinkpads with CRT screens that are still usable today?

>>62186900
I was assigned an x230 when I was working at IBM. It was my first TP, and love at first sight. Later on I got to work on a T430, and now I own a T420.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, but consider this: if you will be using your laptop primarily from home, maybe with a dock-monitor-keyboard-mouse combination, the x230 will provide mobility. The T430 is more suitable to be used on its own, given the larger screen and resolution.

I myself am contemplating on getting an x230 with IPS and mod the keyboard and bios. I just don't have an ips monitor and a dock, so it would be a bigger expense than I am comfortable with these summer months.

>>62187043
>thinkpads with CRT screens
what

>>62187141
yeah you know I like the black levels and overall visual comfiness of CRTs but I need at least a 64 bit Core2 Duo or something. are there any thinkpads with these CPUs and CRT screens?

>>62187161
Can you point me to a laptop that has a CRT monitor?

>>62187161
you know CRTs are as big and heavy as they are for a reason, right? i think maybe one or two weird "laptops" from like the 80s used a CRT monitor. not a single thinkpad or any other sane laptop design ever has.

>>62186246
>h*ck
Go away underage

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I'm the anon that bought the busted hinge t420 for $36 USD, today I my new lid w/ hinge came in the mail.

>>62185335
Are they really that heavy or is it just a meme

>>62186715
The laptop itself is a case anon.

>>62187262
If you expect your laptop to be the weight of a dinner plate, yes.

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>62187257

Here's the lid on the left, without the LCD, i will transfer the lcd over lid with the busted hinge.

unscrewing the drive access plate gets really fucking annoying and dethreads the screw.
do hotswap bay mods exist?

>>62187262
No they're like nothing in a backpack

>>62187289
How did you fuck up quoting yourself

>>62187291
Ultrabay caddy?

>>62187291
>and dethreads the screw

No it fucking doesn't

>>62187309

i was testing manual green text :p

>>62187455
>manual green text
Excuse me?

>>62184547
t. europoor

>>62187455
newfag

>>62181267
Send help

I feel like I could just be a cheap boi and not use a caddy at all, and save the money on that. I can put in a little foam or something to secure the hdd if necessary

>>62181267
Can't fit a 9mm drive in the tablet version without a caddy.

>>62184280
Do the IBM Access button on the external keyboard work as the same in the Thinkap when is connected to the Thinkpad?

>>62187521

excuse me... not a new fag

>>62187654
I haven't ordered it, but I was considering the regular x220 with no caddy

>>62183024
I found an i7, with 8GB, IPS and 120+ SSD for €24, 9-cell and docking station to boot, but it's a bit knocked about.

>>62187514
> Only the 'muricans have those baby enter keys.

>>62187684
used my x220t with a 7mm ssd and no caddy for quite a while until i got an msata ssd. but yeah, don't think you can really get a 9mm drive to fit without doing some serious work on the bezel.

Is this good for $300?

Hp 8570w 15"
I7 3840qm 2.8ghz
16gb ram
320gb hd
1600x900 screen

>>62187741
It's not great. If its a local listing then see if he will go $275

t460/ 256ssd for $280 boys

>>62187250
Fuck off newfag

>>62187262
I used to daily carry the hulk of a laptop w500, a t420 is nothing

>>62187767
holy fuck that's a steal

>>62187684
you can force a 9mm drive in, it bulges the case a tiny but and also you have to completely disassemble it to remove the drive

>>62185335
What are you, 12? Do you just have 0 muscle?

>>62187257
w2c new lid

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Why is the audio output of the W520 so shitty? Frequencies below 60Hz are missing completely, there's actually more bass if I turn down 31Hz completely in the hardware equalizer. I suspect they used a really shitty DAC or something

>>62188285
is it really that bad? I was thinking of getting one...

>>62188350
Yeah, my T60p, phones, and even cheap atom tablets are miles better. I think the 30 series have a realtek chip instead of this conexant crap, which is likely much better

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Just purchased a refurbished T420 for $115. Replaced the battery and the HDD with a SSD. I'm going to add 4gb of ram later today.

Did newegg send me a t420 with the NVS 4200? The specs on the site only stated integrated graphics.

>>62188387
Other than the frequencies, is the output low? I have an x200T(I know, not even close hardware wise) and it has a low output from the 3.5mm jack.

Anyone know how to deal with GPU throttling on an x220 Tablet running Ubuntu 16.04? Its only the GPU that gets throttled, not the CPU, so I'm not 100% sure it has to do with my not so great temps

>>62188424
Nope, it's fine. Doesn't help of course if some frequencies are simply missing completely

Another problem with audio is that it's sometimes stuttering when the system accesses some shit. A bios update and disabling some CPU energy saving settings fixed this mostly, but it still happens sometimes in normal use

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>>62188038

pic of the existing lcd panel to on new lcd, before the screw being screw in.

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>>62188502

put in the new lid w/ working hinge... not screwed in yet.

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>>62188528

..and finally snapping the front face plate back on.

>>62188487
Oh weird. I'm guessing all of this is on Windows? Have you tried it on a linux distro? Also, if you have used linux, does most of the stuff work? Sorry for all the questions, I'm about to buy one but I'm wondering if the issue you're having is something that should keep me from getting it.

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>>62188557

and finally live boot lubuntu...

"Good condition Lenovo T430 Thinkpad Laptop with i7 processor, 3520M, 2.9 GHz. 500 GB Hard Drive, 2 GB RAM, Windows 7 Professional, high resolution screen 1600 x 900, backlit keyboard."
$210, should I do it lads? I'll have to buy some ram, but otherwise suits my needs.

>>62188568
Haven't tried linux yet, but on windows these problems are present with the generic hd audio driver too, so i wouldn't expect better output in linux. I guess I'll get an USB dac.

my fan in my t420 started making loud sounds... is it dying? what do anons bros?

>>62179696
Seconding this.

>>62188606
Yeah, replace it.

>>62179696
>>62188608
What do you want to know about it?

>>62187319
close but that's incompatible with an x200. thought a quick swappable caddyplate would exist.

>>62188602
Yes

I have a X230 and the touch pad is too small for me. I'm thinking of getting a T430 too

>>62188744
Why bother using the touchpad when the clit mouse is clearly superior?

>>62188021
basically
i think i'll save up a bit for a carbon x1. apparently ram is soldered in but it seems to be the best choice

>>62187262
i don't carry textbooks to my classes, the t420 is 90% of my weight in my bookbag. i can see how it won't feel as heavy if you have to carry more than notebooks, pencil case, and an umbrella though.

>>62188827
I'm used to a track pad. The smaller screen isn't that bad but a bigger screen would be more comfortable. The sound is meh and I'll see later how the battery holds up.

Overall it's pretty good, light and fast. Just more a comfort thing.

In the upcoming months, amd is going to release the new apus.
Do you know if lenovo will jump on those apus for the thinkpads?
I am talking for the pure business laptops because they used some crap apus e-series iirc for some g thinkpads

>>62188969
Also the pad is kind of wonky when clicking items on screen

>>62188984
Lenovo is rumored to be jumping on the APU train. A275/A475 will be great if they do.

How do you clean a trackpoint? Mine is dirty after a week or two of use, and this is after I decided to started washing my hands like a normal person

>>62189047
Lift it up to remove it, then use an old toothbrush and water, or something similar

>>62188872
It will break.

>>62188502
Yes but where can I get a lid?

>>62188969
Well get used to the clitmouse, you won't regret it.

>>62189198
I'll try it out. I haven't pad a Thinkpad since since the T43. I think though I'll opt for a bigger screen.

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how'd I do?
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/272821461142

>>62189288
eh

>>62189288
It says sold

>>62189318
i feel like everyone says that here.
>you didn't get an x1 for $40 like I did? heh
It's a complete system with nothing missing plus free expedited shipping, so it's not going to be <$100

>>62189329
Yeah I just bought it.

>>62189364
I didn't say bad, I just said eh. On closer inspection it looks pretty good.

>>62189288
Pretty gud, hope that it has the better quadro
Also get an SSD for it, and make sure to wipe the HDD

>>62189399
The only reason I pulled the trigger was because I thought it had a 1080p screen. The seller didn't say it was but the taskbar looked small enough for it. I sure as hell hope it does because I don't want to get a new screen for it

>>62189427
I'm thinking of putting an msata in it, moving the HDD to the drive bay and putting an SSD in it's place.

What ThinkPads do you guys have and how much did they cost?

>X220 - $270
>$100 laptop
>$90 SSD
>$10 caddy replacement
>$70 9-cell battery

>X230 - $135
>$75 laptop
>$10 foot replacement
>$50 SSD

>T420 - $180
>$75 laptop
>$105 SSD

>T60 - $45
>no upgrades

>>62189479
Remember that the msata in this laptop only has SATA2 speeds.

>>62189496
Oh you're right. So should I just use it for extra storage? I mean SATA2 isn't all that bad. I have that on my x200T and it's fine.

>>62189589
If you want, why not. Even ancient SATA1 is faster with an SSD than a HDD. Just don't use it as the OS partition

>clean X61 keyboard with rubbing alcohol
>no problems

>clean T420 keyboard with rubbing alcohol
>keys turn sticky

What the fuck is this shit? What should have taken 10 seconds ended up taking an hour to clean properly.

>find some old ThinkPads on eBay for under $30
>all have $50+ shipping

FUCK YOU

t30 r40 and t43 for sale for parts and repair of goodwill.
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/42959106
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/42959105
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/42842508

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>Have a W520
>Get all the components for an eGPU last week (monitor, 1050 Ti, Exp GDC express card version)
>Try for a week to get rid of error 12 by scouring various forms and that one subreddit
>Nothing works
>Accept it'll never work and start looking at a budget builds I could maybe throw the 1050 in
>Start playing my shitty moba to feel better
>Frame rate is ass, so I reinstall the Quadro drivers and turn graphics back to discrete in the BIOS
>Realize I only tried discrete once before I knew how to delay the EXP GDC from turning on (and have been using integrated since that's what every site said to use)
>Try the eGPU setup again, this time using discrete graphics
>Literally just plugs and plays itself
I don't have the appropriate image for simultaneous anger and relief felt at the same time.

>>62189489
>T440P - £240 off eBay, i5, HDD, 1080 IPS
>£70 9-cell
>£10 caddy + spare 250gb SSD
>£120 i7 4810MQ
>£30 dGPU heatsink for cooling

Add on thermal paste and some screws, and I paid under £500 for it. I'm pretty fucking happy.

>>62189792
It's a beast.gj.

On a different note, does anyone know which thinkpad with the twisting monitor has the least problems? I tried to buy on from the x220 era and the reviews said that the quality is not good.

>>62189883
you mean the tablet Thinkpads?

>>62189767
You know you can use the geforce driver for quadros, right?

In what X series thinkpads is it possible to have both wireless and an SSD (MiniPCIe?) while leaving the main drive bay empty? The X61 has two slots, would it work? Even if it requires removing whitelist.

>>62189924
What do you mean by main drive bay?

>>62189924
I think the x220 has an msata slot that you can use. That would allow you to keep the drive bay empty

>>62189943
Where the HDD would normally go. I want to boot from a card type SSD. Figured it would reduce weight and power. Also sounds cool.

>>62189914
What do you mean?

>>62190016
Also, I guess I should ask if the interface is slower than the main HDD bay one.

>>62190046
All quadros can also run with the equvalent geforce driver

>>62190054
the msata is SATA II and the hard drive bay is SATA III. I did some research since I bought an x220 tablet version. But I use an ssd with my x200T and it is still plenty fast even though it uses SATA II. Honestly unless you really need the extreme read speeds, you won't notice a huge difference in everyday tasks. Browsing around the OS will be pretty much equal, browsing the web will mostly be equal.

>>62187741
If you're in the US you're better off getting a first or second generation Zbook (which replaced the 8500 series)

>>62190025
The x220 and x220 tablet models will work for your purposes. I did the same thing. Just wanted to make sure you weren't asking for 3 msata ports

>>62187741
The newer zbooks also have a 1080p screen as standard.

What's the difference between a T420 and T520 in terms of battery life and overall portability (I'm not a manlet, so weight isn't an issue)?

>>62190140
>>62190168
Interesting. Thinkwiki lists everything as MiniPCIe slots, but I guess the X220 2nd slot is actually msata and the WWAN cards just talk to the USB passthrough on the slot? Anywhere that actually lists this as msata so that I can check other models? X220 was definitely one I was considering, but I like to compare.

>>62190239
WWAN cards are pure USB, yes

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her name is Thinky
<3 :3

>>62189883
They're all worse than the standard ones and a pain in the ass to replace.

you know what I'd like more than a modern thinkpad with a classic keyboard? A girl who likes and uses a thinkpad at all...

>>62190063
Is the Quadro 1000M equivalent to the 1050 Ti? It seems to be working, I've got a noticeable performance boost in the few games I've tried.

>>62189489
If someone is selling a T60 locally for $160 AUD or 120 USD is that a ripoff?

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>>62189496
there's almost no difference, pointless to bring up

>>62190322
It's equivalent to the GT 540M, or the 8800GTS

>>62190270
What DE/WM is that?
Got a link to the theme?

>>62190335
Mine was $45 off eBay with everything except the charger, so I'd say it's a massive rip-off.

>>62189907
yes

>>62190239
Hey, I couldn't say. Someone in a past /tpg/ told me it would work, and it did. Same with having more than 8GB of useable RAM. Lenovo says it can take 8GB max, but I'm having no trouble with 12GB

One problem I can't solve, no matter how many times I post and ask for help is the GPU throttling. It might be partly heat related, but it often gets throttled independently of the CPU itself. I don't know what to make of it

>>62190412
What do you mean by GPU trotting? Which GPU?
Newer thinkpads with dual core CPUs can use 16GB, quad cores 32GB RAM

Anyone know what the fastest fan speed on the x220 is? I think mine isn't ramping up to full speed when it gets hot. I remember it being noisier before I reinstalled Ubuntu

>>62190454
Throttling. It slows down when its under heavy load, normally due to temps. Problem is its seemingly doing it for other reasons that I can't pin down

>>62190480
Intel or nvidia? What OS, what are the temps like?

>>62190408
Well not to shill my own video but..
I did make a video about the x200T. I have an x220T on the way so I might make a video on that one too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKrYkBf7W88

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>>62190399
It's XFCE with the Chicago95 theme and this start button (because the one Chicago95 comes with sucks)
Make sure to set the panel height to 30px.

https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

>>62190489
Intel HD3000 (Sandy Bridge i5 iGPU), Ubuntu 16.04 with a 4.10 kernel, temps idle around late 50-60C, despite changing the thermal paste and replacing the thermal pad. I'm not sure what else I could do to improve the temps, so maybe there's some sort of ACPI or driver issue making the OS use the chips less efficiently

>>62190544
50C idle is normal with Windows, with Linux you can expect 5C-10C more. It's normal

>>62190522
Much obliged!

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>>62190544
Sounds normal, I've got the same temps on windows with that GPU. There's no pad on mine though
I think the high performance modes of it work like turbo boost, meaning that they are not supposed to run at that speed for a long time

>>62190566
Well, in that case, I still need to figure out how to stop the GPU from throttling. Maybe most current and happy x220 users are using a better configuration? Could Wayland help?

>>62190596
By thermal pad I mean something inside of the laptop itself. There's a second area which I can't remember the name of that's cooled by the main heatsink, and it has a "thermal pad" in between it, instead of paste, because of a different in height. I accidentally threw away the original discounting it as dried paste, but ordered a new one after reading that it was necessary to use it over paste because paste would not allow contact between the component and heat sink with the height difference

QUESTION:

Is installing Linux worth it over Windows for any thinkpad? Not every feature of thinkpads work with linux but they do with windows since they were designed for that OS. However there are a lot of things about Windows that suck and sometimes it feels locked down.

>>62190502
Great. I'll watch it.

>>62190640
That's the PCH, The GPU is on the CPU die.
>>62190645
Almost all things should work fine in linux, try out a live version from an USB stick

>>62190464
hahahaha shitty termals

>>62190645
>Not every feature of thinkpads work with linux
honestly, there's no windows-specific feature on my X230 that I miss when using Linux. I wouldn't be able to name a missing feature in the first place to be honest.

>>62190667
I do use linux on my Thinkpad. I only ever used windows when it shipped on the HDD that was in the laptop. What I mean was using the ThinkVantage buttton, the battery saving features, and a few of the function keys that work in Windows. Most of that stuff is software compatibility.

>>62190464
install tpfancontrol and then set it to full blast and see what happens

>>62190645
Just set up a dual boot if you feel the need for both Windows and Linux.

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>>62190259
if I stick a WWAN card in an mSATA to 2.5" adapter then plug that into a USB 3.0 to SATA cable, will it work?

>>62190710
>using the ThinkVantage buttton
this thing is useless even on windows. it's only there to open lenovo utilities. on linux you can map is to open something actually useful

>battery saving features
true, though tpl is breddy gud

>>62190760
No, because that msata adapter does not connect the USB part of the port anywhere. SATA and USB use different pins of the connector
But if you make a custom adapter with an USB plug, it should work

>>62190785
you can't stop me

Got my 4800MQ and FHD IPS display so i'm gonna nuke the ssd to start again because autism, recommend me a distro for my t440p lads

>>62190838
TempleOS

>>62190848
go away terry

>>62190838
justt use debian. the only sane choice

>>62190710
the thinkvantage button is more useful on linux since you can bind it to do whatever you want

>>62190404
Thanks, are you running Linux or Windows? Are there any limitations to the hardware such as max ram or ssd compatibility?

>>62190883
Not that guy, but:
Max RAM is 3GB
SSDs are all supported, but at SATA1 speed only. Still a lot faster than the shitty original HDDs

>>62188465
Tablet temps run hotter

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>>62187082
How does one get a job at IBM? what did you do for work?

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Cracked the corner of the chassis right by the expresscard port (pic rel.), now the door won't close. Anything I can do besides replacing the whole machine?

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Anyone willing to sell a x230 or a T430 for 30$?

Poorfag wants to get a thinkpad for school and I'm broke as hell, any link to stuff is welcome

>Get a job
I have one but rent and food eats all my income while i go to school and job hunt

>>62190976
did you try removing the palm rest to see what's blocking the expresscard flap from going back up?

also the palm rest isn't fully seated, pinch the corner and it should snap into place

>>62191206
the metal on the inside of the port bent inwards by a large enough amount that it blocks the flap and can't be bent back into place without taking the whole thing apart to get to it

Just bought a t440p for 260€

>>62190941
Delete that NSA image AT ONCE

>>62191285
Then take it apart, google service manual for your model
Bend it back and buy a replacement chassis

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>>62191536
Lmao wish i worked for the NSA wouldn't have to worry about the botnet if i was the botnet

>>62191583
Even the NSA disabled the botnet
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html

>>62182992
x220
comfy af

Hey /g/,

I've combed through your informative pastebins but I'm still not sure on what to buy. I should mention I've never owned a laptop in my 23 years of life.

I just started a masters in Biostatistics and I'll need something that can handle running R, SAS and Python but won't break my wallet. I picked up some piece of junk Lenovo on sale at Staples for $199 but it can barely load the OS, let alone run stat analysis. Is it even possible to get anything that isn't refurb that will fulfill my needs for less than $300?

>>62190865
man the Debian installer looks so tiny with this fhd display

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430s-14-Core-i5-No-HDD-RAM-Bat-No-Power-As-Is-2-/122614800745?hash=item1c8c696169:g:s6AAAOSwQYVZdf0z
you guys wanna see some gore? check this shit out, looks like a kid had it

>>62191899
What model? Is the problem the slow HDD, or the performance?

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x230 is too small I'm going to try the T430

>>62191983
If you want a good screen, you'll have to get a 15" model

Okay, okay. If I want to avoid Intel's backdoor I have to go for a ThinkPad with a Core 2 Duo, right?

>>62192010
and trannyboot

>>62192010
If you want it without botnet out of the box then T60p is your best bet

>>62191955
Don't recall the model, I returned it on my way back home. In general the performance was terrible, don't think it had anything to do with HDD bottlenecking. iirc CPU was a duo core pent

>>62191997
The T430 has 1300x900 which should be good enough since I don't mind the 720p resolution I have on my current one.

I was more concerned with weight but that doesn't matter anymore for me.

What exactly does "Certified Refurbished" mean?

Has the manufacturer taken the laptop back, reloaded the entire OS from scratch, checked to ensure full functionality, and cleaned the grime and dust out of every nook and cranny? I don't want some dudes dried cum in a laptop I'll most likely be using in bed.

>>62192041
>I returned it on my way back home
Good
I'd suggest an used T420/430 if you want portability, if you don't then a T or W520/530 - the best model you can get with your budget

>>62192060
P replaced the older W workstation models

>>62192064
>What exactly does "Certified Refurbished" mean?
Nothing except probably "it turned on"

>>62192089
>>62192041
Also consider getting an SSD if the laptop doesn't come with one

>>62189189
I got mine off eBay for $15

>>62191899
>can i buy a cheap piece of shit that isn't a cheap piece of shit?
no, anything you pick up from walmart's bargain bin (the only things you'll find new for $300) will be complete junk

Guy that just returned the Lenovo here, found these 2 laptops on Amazon within my price range. Any input on which I should go with? If not I'll probably get the HP. Danke


https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Performance-Dual-Core-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B01N9RSOHZ/ref=sr_1_21?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504229026&sr=1-21&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A20000-27500

https://www.amazon.com/Backlit-Display-A6-7310-Quad-Core-Windows/dp/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504229026&sr=1-2&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A20000-27500

>>62191899
Scower ebay and frankenstein together something you can't get a new computer thats even ok for less than $500

>>62191899
Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM from Amazon

What's better for my X230?

Get an external IPS FHD monitor or do the Nitrocaster FHD mod.

>>62192208
neither of those, read the OP

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Are IdeaPad laptops alright? I want a laptop for shitposting, playing TF2 with lowest preset and watching videos in 1080p 60fps.

>>62192064
>>62192089
Um, no, it means the product has actually been refurbished to a degree. Usually it means the refurbisher relaxed the HDD with an SSD, increased RAM, cleaned the insides and outside, etc.

>>62192229
if it's your only computer then a dock + monitor, keyboard, mouse, is a good setup

but if you're going to be stuck using the laptop's keyboard and have to plug and unplug the monitor every time that would be kind of awkward

>>62192256
You realize people can apply that label even if they haven't done shit?

>>62192243
no
>>62192256
that's not true, it means nothing

Wait so is buying 'certified refurbished' always going to be a gamble then?

>>62192295
yes

>>62192295
they are just ordinary secondhand laptops, what are you expecting?

How significant is the performance gap between the T420 G2 and T430 G3?

>>62192208
First one has an atom CPU, lel
The other one an older AMD, also lel

Both have utter shit build quality
Both have absolute dogshit displays

Get an used T520/530 that has a full HD screen instead

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>>62192314
Neglible

>>62192208
For a few more bucks you can get a new laptop

T430 is what I'm looking to try as far as thinkpads
>>62192217

>>62192374
Ah, have you ever owned either one? I really can't decide between the 2, and the price gap is about 40 bucks.

>>62192441
post links

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First for X40.
>small and light
>best keyboard
>no trackpad
>with mild tweaking and tlp have >10 hour battery life
>no botnet at all
>doesn't even turn on fan most of the time, dead silent
>perfect aspect ratio
Where were you when you realized this is the perfect Thinkpad?

>>62192481

T420's:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Professional-Refurbished/dp/B00W4AMWCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504230633&sr=8-1&keywords=thinkpad+t420

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Notebook-Professional/dp/B01GU28ZSU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504230633&sr=8-2&keywords=thinkpad+t420

Only difference i see is the 7200 vs 5400 RPM between these two.


T430:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Processor-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01LXCLDRI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504230633&sr=8-3&keywords=thinkpad+t420

>>62192441
T420 has the classic keyboard layout and thinklight LED, much easier BIOS moddability
T430 has the chicklet layout (less keys, some versions with backlight) and has USB 3.0 ports, and only accepts genuine lenovo batteries
>>62192491
T60p kills it.
>>62192498
You should get an SSD anyway

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>>62178752
>>62179115
>>62185236
>>62185937

im fucking pissed off. my 4 month old x220 charging port is fucked, i have to wiggle it for 5 mins to get it to charge

not only that, the fucking battery is dead, only gives about 30 mins of usage.

Im thinking of getting this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/WHOLESALE-NEW-9CELLS-LAPTOP-BATTERY-FOR-LENOVO-ThinkPad-X230-X220-X220S-Series-42Y4874-42T4901-42T4902-42Y4940/32371549094.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10084_10083_10080_10139_10307_10082_10081_10110_10178_10137_10111_10060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_10056_10055_10054_10312_10313_10059_10314_10315_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_2&btsid=2057e208-6293-4df9-86ab-463b9698dc83&algo_expid=2e8faf92-cd1e-4e87-af8d-decf8732ef2d-0&algo_pvid=2e8faf92-cd1e-4e87-af8d-decf8732ef2d&transAbTest=ae803_1

worth?

>>62192503
Buy a new charging port and replace it, it's not hard at all
But I'm suspecting the problem is the PSU cable

>>62191899
You're much better off looking for deals on Ebay and Kijiji than you are buying refurbed stuff.

>>62182784
>11e
The x130e, x131e and x140e are superior 11" thinkpads

>>62192530
how can you tell? i already bought a new port 3 weeks ago

>>62192501
>T60p kills it.
I also own a couple T60's and I prefer the X40, even though it's slower. It has better battery life and is so much more portable.

>>62192501
Hmm, I may as well go with a T440 if I'm going for a SSD.

This seem reasonable?

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440-NoteBook-Professional/dp/B072KPHQBP/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504230999&sr=8-3&keywords=thinkpad+t440

Also are Thinkpad Ultrabooks worth considering? I've seen a few pop up in my searches.

>>62192573
no, no

>>62192573
>t440
>a 14" ultrabook outclassed in portability by the x240 and outclassed in performance by the t440p
why

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Would you buy a ThinkPad phone?

>>62192704
yeif it was under $200 USD

anyways, bought this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HSW-Battery-pen-power-applies-For-Lenovo-For-Lenovo-X220-X220i-battery-42T4899-notebook-battery-9/32825428688.html

>>62192503
>>62192530

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comfy as fuck lads, T420 master race.

>>62192704
>removable battery, at least 5,000mAh size
>open source drivers, camera kernel and bootloader
>microSD slot
>standard thinkpad aesthetics

sign me the fuck up nigga.

>>62192805
The calibrated display in my W520 shows how shitty yours is :^)

>>62192856
>TN

enjoy your vertical gamma shift :^^^)

>>62192878
I do, from my T60p

Considering picking up a Thinkpad on ebay
Budget is about $150
Mostly for school work and media consumption

>>62192904
t420

Just got my t520 in the mail and installed linux. Posting from it right now. Thanks to all the anons in this general that have answered questions for newcomers like myself! Y'all are very helpful.

>>62192908
I've heard a lot about T420s
Are there any necessary upgrades I should get for it or are they good as is at stock?

>>62192935
$20 chink msata ssd

what's the current status on t420 fhd mods?

>>62193006
nonexistent, only for s versions

>>62188626

miraculously it is quiet once again.... after powering down the t420 for a few hours... a good 5 hours.

>>62190270

no webcam?

>>62190976

Replace the bottom pan... there should be plenty of them on ebay.... should be cheap. No need to replace the whole machine.

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Are new thinkpads worth it?

>>62192704
>unironically having a phone in current year
stay cucked

So my T420s wifi card is shit. I'm planning on getting a new one and installing a modded BIOS.

Does the modded BIOS affect the boot time by a lot?

Anyone have any recommendations for upgrading an x220? I've had mine for about 6 years now and the only real thing I've done with it is replace the fan.

>>62192958

where do you get the chink msata ssd?

>>62193313
>botnet
>chicklet keyboard
no

>>62193523
SSD is a great upgrade, max the ram before it starts to get rare and expensive.

>>62179164
I just ordered one from MyDigitalSSD. I think I had to go through their actual website

>>62193245

Nope... i guess when the cpu throttles... it's loud so i bought a new fan/cpu heat sink on ebay for $6.

>>62178812
Bullshit, disinformation from ass mad Lenovo shill.

>>62193313
Not the E series

Do all x230s and x220s have thinklights?

>>62195116
yes, but the tablet version does not

also there are some that have a third antenna and do not have webcams, I'm not sure if that affects the thinklight as well, but these are really rare

>>62178752
Opinion on the X1 yoga? I plan in a few months to buy an OLED ThinkPad X1 yoga with 16 GB of RAM and 512gb SSD,

I have an old Toshiba laptop which is about on its last knees and I want to get something new

Just got my t430.
Should I format it? Would it be enough?

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I got a dirt cheap E540 and want to upgrade its screen, as it's 1366x768 with very bad colour range.

After putting in the serial number and looking at other LCD assemblies on Lenovo's support site, which one would be the best option to replace it with?