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Previous thread: >>62136920

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), Dell Latitude/Precision (E6430, E6440, E7440) and P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:
https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

>xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

>EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

>Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1
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>>62160186
op here, broke an arrow key bit that holds it in place, now it moves weird, can I glue it back?
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Daily reminder that only virgins who think they're hackers for using Arch buy used thinkpads.
Daily reminder that people with normal sex lives buy a mac.
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>>62160233
thinkpads are cheap, comfy and easy as fuck to maintain
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>>62160213
this part.

also,

is it normal to have image retention on ips screens for the x230???

burn in is really bad, it goes away but is really annoying.
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>>62160205
PLEASE
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Okay, I just ordered a used X230 i7. The seller claims there is some wear that's "consistent with normal use" and that they "shouldn't affect the performance in any way". What are some things I can expect based on this statement?

Also, what's the best way to clean and disinfect the X230 without damaging anything?
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I have a used L412 I bought a while ago. It's pretty nice for the most part, but does anyone know if it's possible to replace the screen? The contrast is kinda crappy and it can be difficult to see sometimes.
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i bought a legion y520 from costco, can i post with you guys
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>>62160615
Sorry kiddo, maybe next time.
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>tfw want to use a Yuru Yuri BIOS screen but I take this laptop outside/to class
Guess I'll just use the stock one.
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I just purchased an x41 with 1 gig of memory and a 1.5 GHz processor. It'll be here in a few days, but are there any x41 fans in the crowd?
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>>62160205
pls respond
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Can I change the boot image without reflashing the BIOS?
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>>62160818
Doesn't the former imply the latter?
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>>62160873
Then I'm fucked, the modded BIOS refuses to flash a second time.
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>>62160643
pls its basically the same thing
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return back to the old image pls
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>>62160940
next thread lad
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>>62160186
Should I buy an x220 or an x200 and why?
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>>62160522
Probably cosmetic wear, check the sides and corners of the laptop.
Just disassemble it and use an alcohol-soaked rag to clean it.
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>>62160986
neither, dont fall for the thinkpad meme
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anyone here use an x301? any thing worth while?
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Why /tpg/ cant design and build their own mods?
I would love to design a Raven Ridge motherboard for the X220.
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>>62161201
was thinking of finally dumping the ol' thinkpad as my main laptop when zen matured for laptops.
hoping they get some good partners.
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>>62161256
If Apple launches a Ryzen Macbook I would buy it.
But lenovo announced Ryzen Thinkpads, so probably my money is with them.
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I'm considering falling for this thinkpad meme. From what I've seen in the buyers guide, something in the x series would be idea for me, as i dont like heavier devices as much
Id mostly be using it to fuck around with linux and learn how it works, practice my writing, and perhaps set up a modded minecraft server for my little bro and his friends when im not using it
Screen quality matters a lot to me.

What is the most customizable thinkpad? The idea of easily(?) being able to upgrade various parts greatly appeals to me. Testing out various upgrades and improving the specs and build over time sounds fun. How stable are they after you start switching out parts? Ive replaced laptop bits before, and the overall build quality seems to lessen every time. Its possible i just have no idea how to do it properly though
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I ran into some problems with my t450

Opening tha flap, sometimes it doesnt go on. Eventually i discnnected ram, hold power 1 minute, reconnect ram, and it worked. I thought this was the perma fix.

last night I let it stay updating win8 botnet overnight with the ac connected. I tried to turn it on today, no response. Connected ac, after some presses it worked again. Does this have to do with wha thappened before?
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>>62161608
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Would a T420 with a i7 2640 still be usable today?
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>>62161770
no
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>>62161679
thanks, but why? For the customization aspect, or what? Looks a bit underpowered for me CPU wise
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>>62161608
>screen quality
>customizable thinkpad

choose one. the only thinkpads with a ((good)) screen are the X1C5 and X1 Yoga.
if you want to just fuck around, get a x200 or x60/61. they are dirt cheap and still fast enough for mundane tasks. they are alse librebootable, if that helps.
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>>62161783
You sure?

Just for taking notes and very old multiplayer games?

Even with 8GB?

When my old 2007 laptop could run firefucks 2017
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TL;DR where is the lcd backlight located on a t450?

>>62149935
This anon here

I think the backlight is broken, as all the screens display nothing (I have two working ones and one cracked one), but if I shine on them with a flashlight I can see the boot screen faintly

What I want to know is where the fuck is the LCD backlight, I don't see it on the housing at all after removing the screen unit
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>T420 won't charge anymore despite different chargers being tried

Is it fucked?
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>>62161791
it is the last X series thinkpad to support libreboot, and is far more customisable than newer generations, as more and more customisability has been removed generation after generation
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>>62161933
Actually it might be the inverter
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>>62161188
bump
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What are the pros and cons of buying a T420 vs a T430?
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>>62160205
Is this for the bootscreen mod?
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>>62161934
Try a different battery?
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>>62162539
Tried running plugged in without the battery, wouldn't turn on either.
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can I turn a t420i into a good t420? like change the i3 for a i5 or i7 and upgrade the screen to alienware? they go for way less than t420's over here
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E570p for aud $1040, the i5 7300hq and 1050ti model. i want to use it with a drawing tablet on the go mainly. probs install debian and krita on it. i dont care for gaming just want a quality device that will perform and not overheat. the main thing i dont like is the battery isnt easy to remove without taking off the back panel
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Just received my first ThinkPad!
Actually I'm still on vacation so my brother picked it up for me and I have yet to touch it.
It's a T430! It's the base model: i5 3320m 4gb ram 320gb hdd.

What's the next step? I guess I'll buy an SSD asap (I was thinking of something like a Kingdian or Netac, or is it chink shit?) and maybe 4 more GB of ram.
What else? I'll start messing around with Linux distros and learn about that. Not sure about flashing the bios as I don't really know what I would gain from that and how hard it would be for a newfag like me.
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>>62163420
better keyboard desu
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>>62161770
Yes.
Even with zen as game changer, CPUs reached almost all basic and medium usage kind of speed.
Mobile shit will do the things easier for old cpus also.
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>>62163260
Yes.
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>>62163420
Congrats anon, now you own a computer.
>posting from my own t430
>8gb of ram
>1tb ssd
>Debian testing
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>>62163420
i also bought a t430, and i cant wait to use it.
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>>62163507
Thanks mate
Also how much did that 1tb beast cost you?

>>62163443
I don't think I'll swap the keyboard. The big enter button is quite important to me and since I'm not used to the old layout I don't think I'll miss it.

>>62163541
Nice!

>>62163420
Battery life is around 4 hours and a half so I think that's good but I'll consider upgrading it with a slice in the future. I guess I'll buy a dock to preserve the ports.

Would someone be that kind to spoonfeed me on the advantages of a custom bios? Also what about using an msata? Should I just use only a regular ssd?
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anyone have an x301? anything great about it?
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T420 with i7 2640, nvs nvidia card for 230 eur. Should I do it? Probably will have to replace battery as they claim that it has at least 50% capability.
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>>62160233
Only faggots who enjoy getting dressed up like a girl and getting bukkake'd give a shit what laptop someone uses
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>>62162452
And for RAM speed.
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Anyone know where to buy new genuine tp keyboards?

There are a bunch on ebay, but they all seem to be fake/generic. I want that OG Chicony and Sunrex shit.
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I have found a T420 with the lastest bios update, that block hardware changes and custom bios logo ?
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>>62160784
Those things are literally unusable. You should have gotten an X60 and then flashed the mobo with libreboot.
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Found a trashpad r500. looking at a T9600 for 10 clams. Should I do it?
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>>62160878
>>62162452
You don't need to mod the BIOS to change the logo you silly cucks, it's a feature of the original BIOS.
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>>62163420
>msata ssd (kingdian is good, /csg/fag here and their ssds served me well) + hdd + hdd if you want three drives to store shit
>quad core processor
>9-cell battery
>docking station
>alienware screen mod
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>>62164350
I've already modded the BIOS, I just need to change the image, meaning I need to reflash, and it refuses to flash. Directory not found.
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Heres what I want lads
>ibm made
>portable
>libreboot
>ability to mod
>cheap (can spend up to say ÂŁ100 but for retro gear i'd rather not unless its grade a)
>still perfectly useable for code/linux/4chan
any ideas? is the t60 16:9 the best option? can you still flash libreboot from inside windows? is the x60 truly more comfier?

please help
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>>62164512
*60 generation is Lenovo. Arguably you have to go back to the T30 or so to get "real IBM". It's not worth it. The *60 generation was excellent, regardless of who owned the slaves that put them together.
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>>62161608
aside from size, that sounds like a t440p
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>>62164434
Thanks for the input
According to what you said an msata is better than a normal SSD? Or is it to just have more HDD space? I don't think I'll need to store much stuff.
Quad core maybe, I'll see what the performance is like.
I'll definitely go for the battery and the docking station.
And maybe the classic TN screen will be enough for me.
I'm on a budget so I need to sort priorities
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>>62164512
T60 4:3 is the best option.
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>>62162442
T420:
>shit screen
>classic keyboard
>older specs

T430:
>shit screen
>meh keyboard
>newer specs
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>>62164554
>According to what you said an msata is better than a normal SSD?
No, it just opens the possibility of ssd+ssd/hdd+ssd/hdd. It's the same shit otherwise.

>Or is it to just have more HDD space?
Pretty much, It's just a meme as in "i run three drives because i fucking can".
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Redpill me on the T430 keyboard mod
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>>62164958
autistic shit
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do the recent generation thinkpads have a wlan card whitelist? thinking of getting one, so I can run open source drivers
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x230 - $150 portable (9 cell ~7 hours life)
x220 - $100 desktop replacement (dock+monitors)

these are the only thinkpads worth buying in 2017.
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>>62165022
>mobile dual core
>desktop replacement
ecks dee
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What do you guys think, 600 eurobucks for a x1 carbon 4th gen qhd a good deal?

(not in the buyers guide)
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how can I disable middle-click paste in Wayland ? it is driving me crazy
Gnome Tweak Tool disables it only for Xorg
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>>62165022
nope
you forgot W520, T520, T420 and X200
and if you're alright with chiclet there's T430, T530 and W530
>>62165042
seems alright, I would personally never buy a newer ThinkPad than the T440p (last somewhat good ThinkPad imo)
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>mfw this entire thread
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I have found a T420 with the lastest bios update, that block hardware changes and custom bios logo ?
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>>62165076
X201t?
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>>62165142
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Who here like me is waiting for the meme sticker to show up?
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Hey guys, my T420 is dying! Every 5 to 20 minutes it is suddenly shutting down so I have to turn it up again (if it lets me, because most of the times it keeps dying right after the power button is pressed).

Has anyone here related this problem? If so, how do I fix it?
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>>62166122
me
legit hyped
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>>62166122
Me too
I don't even know where to put them tho
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Many questions and conflictions...

Should I spring for a W series laptop right now as a real workhorse to replace my desktop? I know they are powerful enough and can be decked out with many different configurations.

OR

Should I, or we, wait for more news on the Retro Thinkpad to see what it's like? No news at all on the official build or look or price at all(as far as I've seen). How much do you think it would cost?

Basically, splurge right now or wait and see if the Retro is worth it?
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>>62166560
Retro is unlikely to fill the same niche as a W series. The polls favored it being more like a new X300.
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Can get a complete T60p for about $100. Worth it?
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What is /g/'s opinion on the newer Thinkpads? I want to get rid of my fagbook and buy a Ganoo/Lunix-compatible laptop and I'm thinking of the T570.

Yay or nay?
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>>62160692
make your own and i'll make it flashable lad
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>>62166768
If it's 15" 4:3 it's guaranteed IPS. Even the 1400x1050 panel goes for $150, 1600x1200 can run $300+ if the seller knows what they've got.
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>>62160186
I've got a T61 with the C key broken, had to leave it with out that key because I couldn't glue that back.
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>>62166861
Yeah it's 15". Contacted them and they said 'from Googling' they think it's 1600x1200, but judging from the icons on the desktop it looks more like 1400x1050, but who knows.

Just bought it for ÂŁ75 with the dock. Even has all the stickers intact, including the ThinkVantage one on the lid.
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>>62167067
I was gonna buy that you cunt
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T430 delivery in 2 days.
Now I only have to look around for cheap eGPU adapter and GPU itself.
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Any opinions on the Lenovo prebuilt desktops? I have one Thinkpad, one on the way, and am bidding on another one right now. I want to upgrade my desktop too. Are the new desktops worth it? They have Botnet 10 installed and I'm not too crazy about that.

I just want to be a complete meme, not just a partial one.
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>>62167159
All in the name of charity mate. :^)
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Anyone else have the problem that the x230 leaves marks on the screen? I just notice scratches from the function keys all over the lower part.
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>>62160205
>HELP

Wait for trannyboot to finally reach the x220 and install that.
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>>62167168

Man I almost wish I didn't already have a gaming PC, just so I could play around with this concept. I would combine it with a dock

>come home from long day out and about with your xx30x
>drop your tp into a fully kitted UltraDock/UltraBase with kbm, speakers, and external hdd attached
>insert express34 egpu + monitor
>game

Though I wonder if these <2013 CPU's will present any significant bottleneck
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>>62167629
That's exactly what I'm going to do.
Docking station will arrive few days after the laptop.
I wonder if I can get the adapter + GPU under 200$. I don't even want strong GPU, just something that will comfortably play ~2014 games at medium.
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I'm stuck between the T430 (with the keyboard swapped out) or the X200

I want something I'm able to customize and will last me 4 years at least.
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I'm thinking about getting pic related. Schools started back up and my current laptop is too bulky to be useful in most of my classes. I just want something small that I can program and run linux on. Does anyone know if their are any differences between the regular x220 and the x220 tablet for booting linux?
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>>62167773
I just need something that'll let me watch my mongolian cave drawings and will let me program.
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>>62167789
forgot pic
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>>62167773
t440p
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>>62167809
Y tho
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>>62167809
>t440p
>customization
Nice expresscard
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>>62167824
It can be upgraded (including the touchpad mod which is a necessity), has a FHD IPS screen option and upgraded to a 4800MQ/4900MQ will last you 4 years easy.
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Bought a t440p with an i5, 8gb ram, and a 500 go hdd. Thinking of swapping the disk drive with the hdd and making an SSD my boot. Maybe swapping the track pad with one from a t450 and the i5 to a quad core i7. Thoughts on this?
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>>62167307
help plz
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>>62167168
gay cat
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do you know ressources on dell business laptops?
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>>62167789
>>62167801
Ubuntu 16.04 works just fine
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Hi anons
Im looking to fall on the bussines laptop meme but i realy dislike the thinkpad screen quality ,is it better on lattide or elitebook sides? what models are goods on those brands
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>>62167756

>I don't even want strong GPU, just something that will comfortably play ~2014 games at medium.
That's a short order. Should *very* easy to do with $200 USD.
GTX 1050ti immediately comes to mind. If you were to go for a full $200, you might even be able to get a 1060.
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>>62168173
Pascal on eGPU is unstable as fuck, at least it was on my T420 with 375.63 drivers and according to some googling pascal egpu issues were pretty common at that time too.
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>>62168158
Elitebooks and Latitudes are both worse off on comparable models. Get a 1080p W520, it's the best screen you can get in the sub-$400 price range.
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>>62167830
What would you recommend?
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>>62168359
I would say that you can't go wrong with T430. Unless you need mobility. Then go for X2xx. Sadly I can't tell you more about X series as I don't use them.
T440p is really good but for some retarded reason it lacks expresscard slot so you can't connect a lot of shit to them (eGPU being one of them).
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>>62166289
>T440
Hättest halt einen Mac gekauft, du Hurensohn.
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redpill me on the x61
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>>62168406
Mobility just meaning the size of the machine right? Or does that include the weight too?

I'm a skeleton so I don't mind carrying around something heavy as it'll help me gain muscle
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>>62168267

Ah. Well, I haven't looked into it at all, as I don't have a use case for an egpu currently.

Was wondering about that though - specifically egpu-related quirks and/or bottlenecks.

Hopefully shouldn't be too prevalent an issue.
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>>62168514
X series is smaller, so naturally it's lighter too.
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>>62168497
It's not libreboot compatible, get either X60 or X200.
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>>62169017
is the x200s libreboot compatible?
found a cheap one, is it as good as the t420?
need a /g/ approved FREE 4chan machine
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>>62169212
Technically it's libreboot compatible, but it's more challenging to libreboot. Refer to the documentation at libreboot.org
I would just suggest getting an X200, I've seen some as cheap as $50 in good shape on ebay.
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Can anyone recommend me a laptop between 12-14 inch that's 1080p with an i3 or i5
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>>62169256
you can flash a x200 without opening it up, correct?
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>>62169269
I can spend 400 euro max
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>>62169273
The X60 can be done without opening it up. The X200 you still have to take the keyboard and palmrest off since it's an external flash.

https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html
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>>62169327
fuck, I just found a x200 in mint condition for ÂŁ50 aswell
in all honesty, how shit is a x60/t60 in 2017?
I've asked this like 50 times and haven't gotten a real answer yet
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Would I need to deal with secure boot or whatev on a T430s? I need to install [GNU+]Linux on it for school.
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Just got a x220 but it has parts that are oily/shiny perhaps from friction. Anyway to remove this
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>>62169355
Well you're in luck. I have both X60 and X200. The X200 is definitely superior to the X60 in terms of performance. It runs a lot cooler and faster. Don't get me wrong, the X60 can get the job done, it's just not as peppy. But the X200 can handle anything I throw at it, it can output 1080p streaming video to an external monitor through displayport. The X60 doesn't have that kind of power.
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>>62169475
I don't give a h*ck about power, just need a 4chan machine
So would a x60 (tablet) be nice and comfy with a ssd? Does the tablet version have any problems with libreboot and debian?
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Dumb question but it's possible to install gentoo on these things right?
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>>62169509
Well, the price difference between X60 and X200 on ebay is very small. The extra power is certainly worth it. If you really don't care, then get X60. But I don't recommend the tablet. They can be flaky with libreboot from what I hear. Not all X60 tablets are compatible.

https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/#list-of-supported-thinkpad-x60-tablets
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>>62169595
yeah i've found two cheap ones but they don't say what the res is which is fucking annoying
gonna shoot them an email to find out
thanks for the help btw pal
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>>62169613
No problem senpai. Also, after you get it flashed with libreboot you need to swap the wifi chip with an atheros one since it's usually a proprietary intel wifi chip. Get the AR9380. It is a god-tier wifi chip and produces very little heat. That makes a BIG difference on the X60 because the palmrest can get ridiculously hot with wifi usage. Also get a fresh keyboard/palmrest/battery for real cheap and it will feel like a new machine. And you're right about the SSD, they make a huge difference.
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>>62169700
just waiting a x60 to pop up on bong ebay now tbqh
i'm so indecisive though kek, part of me is telling me I only want a t/x60 because of the ibm sticker and that I should get something more functional but the other half of me says I need to go full autism otherwise my machine isn't worth one of those cool /g/ stickers
J U S T
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So, hey /g/, i have a question, right now im using Acer Aspire One D270 which is pretty shitty, even on Debian 9.1. In local "used pc shop" there is a T410 with i5-somethingm, 8GB ram, 320GB HDD and Quadro 3100m for sell for like 90-100usd (350pln). Is it worth buying if i want to upgrade? I dont have money to buy something like X220. Also im mainly using laptop/netbook for 3D modelling, programming (Py, C, PHP), and writing documents. Thanks for answers
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>>62169927
I ordered a USB IBM keyboard with trackpoint for my desktop. I feel your autism as I have it too.
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Help I'm trying to make a desktop background for my ThinkPad but I don't have any ideas... What can I put in addition to the logo?

I want to be able to go out in public with my computer too.
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>>62160986
x220 with a standard batt. the extended one is awkward
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Is there really anything you can do if you suspect your CPU is spoofed?
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>>62170088
https://imgur.com/a/i1ASd
here you go friendo.
Make an awesome thinkpad-centric wallpaper that is SFW
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how long should I wait for a seller on craigslist to respond. I have 1 for a t420 and another for an x230. I never used craigslits before and I emailed the first one and texted the last one with zero responses. Is this a scam/set up for robbery?
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>>62170243
also which ones will you guys suggest I get, the t420 or x230? t420 has windows 10 while x230 has windows 7. Price difference between the 2 are $30 US.
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>>62170231
cool, I'll try that in a bit!
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I was considering picking up a Thinkpad to have as a travel laptop and was looking at the X220 or X230 because of the weight + price point, but
>xx20/xx30 have notoriously awful screens,

Exactly how readable are these screens if you're predominantly using the comp for writing? Would I be better off just bumping up to a X240 or going for a different system?
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>>62170290
>>62170243
bump
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>>62170479
>awful screens
Anon thank you for making up my decision then
for this is me>>62170290
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>>62170001
Bump
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>>62170501
I got that from the pastebin in OP, you might want to look at that.
https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175
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>>62170479
for text it'll be fine. the T420/T430/X220/X230 screens just have very bad colors and viewing angles so they're not suited to any sort of graphical work. the X series models have IPS options which are more serviceable.
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Is it really worth getting a x200 for about 60-70 € with no hard drive and an almost dead battery?
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>>62170561
>https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175
>>62170559
>>62170561
so t420 or x230? I will mostly be using this for college (mech engie student).
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>>62169927
Lol my X60 doesn't even have IBM logo, it just says "Thinkpad" with a small lenovo logo under the screen. It was right when lenovo was taking over. I actually like it better.
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>>62170561
Thanks m8.

>>62170616
If you're MechE you're probably going to want something that can run AutoCAD and Inventor and shit like that, won't you? Unless you have a desktop you're going to use to do any homework that requires that.
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>>62170593
You would want to replace the hard drive with an SSD anyways, so it don't matter. Just be prepared to invest for SSD/battery/keyboard on any laptop that old. 60-70 € is fine as long as it's actually an X200 and not an underpowered X200s. Bonus points if it as 4GB ram and 2.4GHz or higher.
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>>62170649
Got a desktop. I doubt I will use my pc for autocad. I have an xps 13 2016 model btw (which I want to sell if I do get the thinkpad). You guys basically made me want to buy a thinkpad since it can withstand autism.
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Looking for a Thinkpad thats slim but powerful, was looking at a T430 , what do you guys think?
(uses would be schoolwork and media and maybe older games)
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>>62170775
You forgot "masturbating to gay anime porn".
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T540p or W540?
Is there a real difference in performance?
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I have 500-600 usd to spend on a good daily use and light gaymen/rendering machine, 1440p would be nice but not necessary, I've looked at some 3rd gen x1s, and T450p.
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>>62170825
thats what my phone is for~
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>>62171016
>watches gay anime porn on the botnet
whew lad, your next employer is gonna know you are Turkish
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>>62168473
ZurĂĽck nach Krautchan mit dir
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>>62169700
Took a gamble and bought a great condition x60 for ÂŁ50
If I can't libreboot it then i'll just keep it around to fuck about with as it looks cool as h*ck
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>>62171143
fuck forgot to ask, does anyone know of any dirt cheap chink digitiser pens that will work with it?
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made my first wallpaper looks neeto on my x200T
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>>62161934

>>62162539 This and flash your BIOS to accept 3rd party batteries.

Good luck!
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>>62166122
where do you place an order for one?
asking for a friend
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>>62162442

T420
> You can flash the BIOS and use another battery, Wi-Fi card, unlock RAM speed, advanced featureson the BIOS and shit

T430
> Can't do that.
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I updated my mouse drivers and now when I press the middle button, it doesn't open a new tab but instead enables me to stroll down.
Is there a fix for this?
I have an X230
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>>62171466
Then why do most people seem to opt for the T430?
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>>62171566
Maybe they fall for the USB 3.0 port meme
> The T420s also has USB 3.0 ports
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>tfw /waitingforfreezesont520coreboottobefixedsoicanuseanivybridgecpu/

Also lads should I buy a T61 for about 100 AUD and put a T7800 in there? Should make a novel HTPc assuming it has the horsepower to decode 1080p H.264.
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PHDGD Drivers. This shit worth? Has anyone tried?
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>>62171566
so many people are put off by the complexity of allowing third party batteries and wifi cards that they just call it a piece of shit. The main flaw of the T430 is the screen but I have no regrets
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>>62171435
patchdynamics.net
They'll appear here as soon as the anon running this site will receive them
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>>62171313
> Dat resolution

WTF!
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>>62166122
where can I get stickers similar to this? Need something to cover up my super key and so on
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>>62170685
How is the xps 13, anon? I've been looking at it, and seems pretty decent if I can get over the price tag. Dat small screen and bezel. I'll probably end up buying a thinkpad, but I'm also looking for alternatives.
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Is the 2570p trackpoint comparable to a Thinkpad trackpoint if I replace it with a thinkpad cap
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Bout to buy a T460 from Craigslist for $600 with an i5, 192gb ssd, and 8gb of ram tell me why I shouldn't
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>>62172516
I tried to put my x230 trackpoint cap on my 2570p because it's missing it and it didn't fit well.
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>>62168267
they've been figuring out how to get all the 10 series cards working with latest drivers. 1050ti and 1060 3gb were the last holdouts:
https://egpu.io/forums/expresscard-mpcie-m-2-adapters/nvidia-is-killing-off-mpciengff-m2-egpus-error-43-with-372-90/paged/8/#post-18730

as for your stability problems, is your psu legit? i've had no problems at all with a 1050ti, exp gdc beast v8 adapter, dell da-2 220w psu, and 375.70 drivers, on an x220, t420, and hp 2570p
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I've been lurking here for a few days now and have heard virtually nothing about the thinkpad 13. Going by a few quick google searches it seems like a cheap modern little machine. I would really like a smaller laptop, but they are proving difficult to find, and the 13 seems like it might be what I'm looking for. Thoughts?
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>>62172466
>>62172210
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>>62172659
just get a x200/220 to shitpost with
if you want actual computer then build one
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>>62172673
he doesn't have any stickers on his site you stupid cunt
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I'm about to get a T430, where I can find a non shitty display? Is replacing easy?
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>>62172676
I already have a desktop, I'm looking for something mobile and more modern. I've been considering the x220, and it looks decent, but I'm willing to shell out some extra money for something with a little more oomph to it with a nicer screen. If I cant find anything I'll probably default to x230 or something, but I want to look at all of my options
I wish modern netbooks were more of a thing
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>>62171553
Anybody?
I'm tempted to uninstall the driver, but if I do then I won't be able to adjust my mouse sensitivity
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>>62172781
>Modern netbooks
C H R O M E B O O K N I G G A
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>>62171099
I'm a white male that lives in the US thank you,
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>>62172753
halp
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>>62170775
Bump
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>>62164573
**30 keyboards are better tho
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>>62166404
i was hoping it was smaller, so i could put it where lenovo/windows/intel stickers were
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>>62166289
uninstall systemd
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>>62162127
x220 and x230 should be getting it in the future tho
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>>62172282
upgraded screen breh
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>>62166122
Is it on the guy's site yet?
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>>62168564
If >>62172627 is right then something changed or was fixed already so you can ignore my original statement.

I don't have that setup anymore but it worked fine with a 950 and a 960, problems started when i changed to Pascal. Here's an old post with my previous 2720qm t420 setup rbt.asia/g/thread/57742779/#57743123
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is the t420 my best option for a college laptop? I just need to type papers and do research, but I don't want to have to keep replacing parts or fixing shit
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i have a $2000 budget
what is the best thinkpad out there for computer science majors?
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>>62173735
t70
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>>62166289

Heat issue probably.
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>>62160186
what is that in the photo?
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>>62173633
Well, the main reason people buy T420s is BECAUSE you can keep replacing parts and fixing shit.

They are built like a brick shithouse and could probably withstand being crushed by one, but they really cant handle straining tasks, like most budget laptops.

However if you are pretty much only writing papers and browsing, go for it.
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So I grabbed myself an 11e just to permanently have in my backpack, did I make a mistake or are they okay. Just clarifying its not my main computer or anything, just something to carry everywhere.
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>>62174088
why not something with a trackpoint?
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>>62174037
you can by upgrading the processor

but yeah it's pretty much the tinkerer's laptop
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So I'm a comp sci student, I already have a desktop but I need a laptop for some programming on the go.
Thus I've been eyeing the x230 since it's mobile, has an SSD and an OK CPU.
Is it any good? Is there any other thinkpad I should consider?
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>>62174203
What kind of programming?
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>>62173405
yeah, can't wait, but it's taking forever (but you can't blame the developers for that)
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>>62174230
cute programming while wearing programming socks
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>>62172659
Update: It took a lot of searching, as the majority of Thinkpad Lenovo 13's available are the chromebook model without a trackpad, but I'm able to buy the windows version with a trackpoint new (there are exactly 0 used non chromebook models out there as far as I can tell). with all the upgrades I want (i5, 1080p, backlit keyboard, fingerprint scanner) for just over $850. It also has 2 DDR4 ram slots, so I can get up to 32GB DDR4 at some point should I desire to do so. Is this at all worth it? Seems like a pretty solid little notebook that I wont have to replace for a long while, and I am having a hell of a time finding a smaller form factor laptop that isn't shit tier in terms of processing power and/or build quality. Shipping is also free, which is a huge plus for me since I live in Alaska
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>>62174230
I'm doing Java/C++ in my course so far and I also work with C, python and web stuff in my spare time.
I just want something that can do that and be lightweight
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>>62174230
html
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Is this worth the money?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15-FHD-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-Laptop-Quad-Core-i7-CPU-16GB-RAM-Nvidia-Quadro-SSD-/172750478024
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>>62174264
macbook
>>62174290
Most Lenovo ThinkPads should be fine. Anything with an iX processor should be good enough. I really like the X series since it's made to be light and portable. The screen is what you sacrifice on though. The T series offers you to have add an extra drive by getting rid of the optical drive.
>>62174424
x200 Tablet.
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Should buy a cheap or genuine 9 cell battery for my X220?
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>>62174433
Genuine, always genuine.
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>>62174430
No thanks, but is that worth the money? i7 3720QM...ÂŁ999

Already got an x220 (non tablet) in the mail.
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Bought a $60 W500 with no harddive or rack. 2.8ghz with 4gb, how'd I do? :)
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>>62174437
thanks, brought one just now
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>>62174537
Good. Now be a real man and get it librebooted.
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>>62174596
Already ordered by DeagleDome and an Atheros card.
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what is PCI bus 0, device 22, function 3 on a T520?
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>>62174632
Nice! I always recommend the Atheros AR9380 though. It's an amazing card.
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>>62174448
I was joking about the tablet. I have one and like to shill it because no one talks about it. The x220 should be good, I have the tablet version coming in the mail-- i7-2620M.
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What's a good/decent nine cell battery for my t420 that won't crap itself after a couple of months?
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>>62174088
I've never used one before so it wasn't really a necessity for me.
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I'm a moron
>>62175590
was meant for
>>62174133
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>tfw you fell for the e6440 meme
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>>62167789
My x220t runs ubuntu gnome fine. What difference could there possibly be besides the wacom screen, which works fine. Pressure sensitive in krita, zoom-able in chromium.
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>>62172546

I guess you shouldn't because i got a brand new t460s for 300 new gaybo. Search for a better deal.
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>>62160213

he's a porn star, amirite?
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>>62167282

she's cute
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>>62175417
Just buy anything, at this point genuines will be somewhat degraded and will last the same as generic ones.
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>>62176018
I ended up paying $850 for a Thinkpad Yoga 14 with the 940m instead
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I just bought an X240 with a Core i3 in it, and thought it was a Core i5. That's what I get for not reading the fucking listing. How badly did I dun goof? Does anyone have the i3 version with Looonix on it? Thankfully I'm not afraid at all to swap out the motherboard for an i7.
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>>62176696
>Thankfully I'm not afraid at all to swap out the motherboard for an i7.
I'd rather upgrade the screen to the FHD IPS one, i3s are fine to use even if it's a dual core ULV one.
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>>62176755
Sweet. And yeah that's also gonna happen in about 2 or 3 weeks after I swap out this trackpad.
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>>62176450
t. retard
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>>62176450
Unless you're mining crypto for fun or gaming, you wasted money.
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>>62160545
you are probably stuck with it
not many L-Series fans/modders here or even on TPF

>>62160930
No it is not you dumb fuck.
it doesn't even say thinkpad.
oh wow, you found a laptop that is made with the same manufacturer.
You must be like those guys who say 'This VW bug is basically a Porsche' without it having anything to due with Porsche engineering.

Consumer trash is not accepted here
I can give a shit if you got better viewing angles, faster CPU, better gaming graphics.
You don't have a Thinkpad, you have a standard, fucking, laptop.

>>62160784
X4x, there are not many people here who have that.
i've been meaning to get an X4x series, but I want to nab an X2x w/ an ultrabase first. (I have an X31, X61, X300).
Dem 1.8" PATA HDDs are ass, do the CF card upgrade.
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There's a cheap R60e over here, is this thing good or worth getting?
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>>62175821
Wait, why don't you like it?
The machine is a more sound proof purchase than a T440

They are a bit bulky tho,

>>62174537
Not bad.
I hope you have a glorious WSXGA+panel

>>62173009
T430 is good
I play league on highest, almost 60fps on my T430s, and thats intel graphics.

T440s might be better if you want more battery life and possible FHD
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>>62177004
Define cheap
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>>62164151
How are they unusable?
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>>62176946
The latter
Also wanted the pen
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>>62176974
Will do, thanks anon.
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>>62177087
Around $60, cheap by 3rd world shithole standards where a t420 with basic specs sells for $210.
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>>62177092
Poor performance thanks to the undervolted Pentium M.
Fun fact, when IBM released the X41, they also released an X32, that didn't have an underclocked Pentium M CPU like the X41 did. They did this because a lot of clients complaned that the X40 was slow. The 1.8" PATA HDDs were notorious for slow read/write speed and reliability. I think it is somewhat comical that they had an 'old' laptop for sale again.

I'm not too familair with the 1.5GB RAM issue... it like had a soldiered RAM slot or something. I've yet to get one to deal with the issues.
I kinda want one because the T4x was so damn thin before IBM/Lenovo implemented the magnesium sub frame.
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So, I have read that the x250 has a 2242 m.2 slot, but it looks too tiny for me. There are some 256gb ssd on AliExpress for 65€.
http://s.aliexpress.com/InMvuMrQ
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Good laptop to satisfy my Mongolian visual novels?
I don't care about the weight.
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>>62177205
X220T, you can take the screen off to read doujins.
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>>62177183
>2242 ssd on a 2242 slot
what's the problem?

dude i managed to make a fucking fatass msata ssd work on the t440p m.2 2242 slot, shit will be there forever because it's stuck and can't take it out lel
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>>62177287
I think the real problem would be the connector. Is this the correct one?
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>>62177405
is the x250 m.2 pcie or m.2 sata?
because that's m.2 sata
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>>62177428
I don't really know. I guess when I'm in home I'll check, or of i find a screwdriver here.
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I fucked up and assumed I'd get sniped on ebay like every other goddamn time. I assumed wrong.
tl;dr I have several x60's, x200's and x220's on the way to my house now. What do.
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>>62177587
Resell them as buy it nows?
They all fit in medium flat rate boxes.
Maybe remove the mobos/LCD on the X220, migh get more in.
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>>62177016
I tried it in person and it felt very nice, like a thinkpad without the meme keyboard. I actually didn't even know it was tpg-approved.
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>>62177777
>>62177777
>>62177777
It's still on the way, so I'm excited
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>about to buy 5 Elitebooks off a guy on facebook marketplace for $50 total.
>tell him I can meet him tomorrow
>he messages back and says he can only meet meet me noon because he is going into the hospital for a week
>look at his facebook
>he's some kind of redneck chad with a history of mystery illnesses
>"Oh sorry man, I will have to decline on these, they're all little too old and I was looking for something newer"
>one of the machines was actually a 17" C2D

Yeah fuck that. I ain't touching those things.
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If I did an overview of a ThinkPad, would anyone even watch it? It's of an x200T. All of the videos I watched before I bought mine were like 6 years old and never showed what a distro of Linux was like. Should I upload it? I feel too amateurish...
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>>62177821
fuck that shit.
people on FB are fucking retarded.
You got to speak to them in retarded fucking terms.

>>62177777
them... uhh what are they.
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>>62163754
That's oddly specific.
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>Be me.
>Computer Science Student.
>My high school is full of macfags.

I'm thinking about buying a ThinkPad 13 g2.
I know it's over-priced, but i don't like trackpad/keyboard of the Asus zenbook, and I hate MacOS.

What do you think /tpg/ ?
700€ for i3 7100u 4Gb of ram and 13' display (1920x1080), good battery life, good trackpad/keyboard and durable ?

( I m gonna use Windows 10 Ltsb and Manjaro.)
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>>62163754
only dude I know who has a mac is 23 and bangs 40+ year old drug addicts. I'm not even memeing here.
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>>62177859
Retarded and also extremely shady. So many meth heads selling their "perfection condition" 4k TVs with photos of their junky ash-filled living rooms.
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>>62177859
? I mean the e6440, it's an uncucked thinkpad
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>>62177880
( I m looking for a Lightweight Computer.)
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>>62177880
you have more money than brains, that's for sure
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>>62161770
>>62161817
I'm typing this on one. It's pretty usable. Slapped in an SSD and brought the 6 gigs of ram up to 8 gigs but honestly, it worked fine before I did either of those things.
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>>62177880
>4GB
>computer science student

I don't know mang, but you you will probably want to run some virtual machines of some sort. I almost always go above 8GB of memory as soon as two displays, 25 tabs in firefox, eclipse and a VM is involved.
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>>62177939
Maybe, I just can't take a big PC every day to school. (X220 L470...)
This is why students buy lightweight Mac you know.
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>>62177972
>can't take a big pc
Maybe if you're a skinny hipster faggot.
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>>62177967
It's true, I already have a 8GB pc at home... I will thinking about that. Thanks for your reply.
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>tfw fell for the X220 meme
should I get a slice battery too
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I just got in my x220t and so far it's great. I'm having a problem getting the fingerprint scanner to work when the computer is powered off. I've installed the ThinkVantage Fingerprint software and set up my fingerprint, but if I swipe when the power's off the green light on the reader doesn't blink. The reader works in Windows.
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>>62174088
Is there something cheap thats similar to this and has a trackpoint? Ideally I want to buy the 2nd gen thinkpad 13, but I know its probably not worth the price (around $850 with the features I want), so now Im trying to find something similar to sate my desire for a small comfy portable. Would just get the 13 chromebook, but no trackpoint sadly, and thats a requirement for me
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>>62178241
Also is there a better trackpad I can put in this? One with actual buttons for the pad as well as the nipple?
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>>62178239
>14 mins and 40 seconds

lmao, nice shitpad faggot.
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>>62178260
uh, x131e,x140e?
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>>62177880
just use your uni's computer science lab faggot
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>>62177848
just do it, fag, and link it.
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>>62178313
Oh shit, thats perfect. Thanks anon!
Looking at an x131e i3 1.9 Ghz for $130. worth? Or should I just get one of the other ones that are closer to $100
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>>62178386
too much imo.
Max $100 for the one with the best cpu which was a normal mobile i3 IIRC.
everything was underpwered I think
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>>62178239
My extended battery lasts 5-6 hours on loonix. Lasts around 3 if I'm doing resource intensive shit.
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Gentoo, SMGL, or Void Linux for my ThinkPad? Was going to go CloverOS for memes but no tlp.
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>>62178294
(You)

>>62178523
You might want to check that it's working properly. Do you have tlp?
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>>62178549
TLP is pointless because the linux kernel already does a better job than TLP now, it's just that linux power management has been and forever will be shit.
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>>62178544
seems like you hate your life, might as well install gentoo unironically
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>>62178603
so TLP isn't pointless then faggot?
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migrate when ready bois
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>>62178761
forgot link mlao

new thread:

>>62178752
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>>62178747
try reading you illiterate nigger
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>>62178876
Say that to me irl and see what happens faggot
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>>62172691
Wow you are truly retarded
Read previous threads
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>>62178922
Give me a link faggot
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>>62179001
>>62172210
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>>62171466
Wasn't t430 able to flash BIOS too, with only some more complications?
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>>62172911
Download tpmiddle and put it in the startup. It allows you to press the middle button if you didn't drag the track pad.
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>>62177587
Sell me one of those x60s for cheap please anon ;-;
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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