Mechanical Keyboard General - /mkg/ - Thread Into Which Keyboards

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>>62108215
At least no one can bitch about you not posting a new keyboard.

>>62108215
That is neither 10% nor mechanical. I'm on to your lies.

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>>62108272
>metal domes
>not mechanical
theyre literally tactile and clicky how much more mechanical can you get in definition function and feel?

Whats a good fancy retro keyboard?

>>62108313
Model F

>>62108305
Something with an actual mechanism.
Hence the fucking word, mechanical.

Topre fags should be shot

>>62108449
please use technical terms to describe how a metal dome switch is not a mechanism

>>62108524
Cost. That's why topres are mechanical even though they're rubber domes.

>>62108388
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/top-AOYEAH-K100-punk-bakligt-mechanical-keyboard/32808655072.html

This? Doesnt make sense huh

Can you configure layout and make new layers with this pcb, also is there a guide anywhere for this, I only find soldering ones?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/XD75Re-pcB/3034003_32818745981.html

>>62108686
Are you retarded.

>>62108711
I searched "Model F keyboard"
May you please help with the proper link

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>>62108726
Are you sure
are you sure you know how to google

>>62108754
receive my sorry, gentle sir.
would you please recommend one between F62 and F77? Do you have any of them?
They are so beautiful, I will buy one.

>>62108754
why are they so expensive
its a old keyboard for god sake
they have to be cheaper than the vast majority of keyboards
this makes no sense
fuckin hipsters fuckin with the market overvaluing these goods

>>62108787
The build quality is a thousand times better than any keyboard made today, and buckling springs are expensive.

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cooler-master-masterkeys-s-mechanical-keyboard

>inb4 lagdrop i'm a patient man
anybody have any experience with cherry silvers?
Is this worth the price?

>>62108787
The old model F's can be bought for like $80 - $120 in good condition.
That's not that much all things considered.
And like >>62108801 said, they are built like a shit brick house.
Now the NEW model F's being made this year are like $350+

Which switch has the biggest bump?

What's a good mechanical keyboard for a Mac?

>>62109237
Matias Quiet Pro

>>62109167
buckling spring

>>62109237

das keyboard 4 professional for mac.

>>62109237
Happy Hacking Keyboard

>>62109237
Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2

Is there anything like fc660c but has a traditional home/end/insert/delete and arrow key layout to the right instead of smashing most of it into function layers?

I like my fc660c but that's my only complaint, those button should just be actual keys, not fn+.

>>62109408
only shit part is the newer ones don't have actual kickstands to heighten it, just some retarded magnetic "ruler"

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what can i expect from my first groupbuy

>>62110084
Delays and excuses.

>>62110060
Varmilo/MF68

If they don't have the right positioning by default, there's eda files for a replacement MF68 PCB that uses a Pro Micro as the controller for programmability.

>>62108706
Of course it's programmable. There is a google drive link with a guide on how to flash it in the description.

>>62108828
I prefer Kailh Speed Silver, but when you use them, you're basically going to be bottoming out every time. Imagine that it's a switch made to bottom out, and hitting the bottom is your "tactility". I prefer Gateron Red just because I like having the switch travel more, and speed switches seem like they stop too short, but if you know what you're getting into, you'll enjoy it.

Just do not get the switch thinking you'll hit keys faster than anyone else, or that you'll have any form of a "gaming" edge. They're just linears with short travel that are almost meant to be bottomed out.

>>62110084
At least GMK can somewhat keep to their schedule. Expect for the vendor to completely fuck everything up when it comes to actually shipping it to you. Who knows though, their Terminal groupbuy went somewhat smoothly.

>>62109237
Vortex Race 3

>>62108828
Silvers are way too sensitive for gaming, since even resting your fingers on the keys will sometimes activiate them.

How is the Tada68? For $100 I feel like I should just get the xiaomi mec keyboard

>>62110630
>>62110600
Sounds like gateron clears, which I already have. If anything I'd just get it for comparison purposes.

>>62108828
I have race 3 with silvers.

I'd say there's no practical difference between them and reds. Travel is shorter, but this only affects the feel, it does not significantly affect either typing or gaming.

>>62110768
Honestly one of the best keyboards around, especially for the price. The default key caps are great. My only complaint is that I didn't grab the white one.

>>62110060
The Varmilo VA68M is exactly what you want.
Pretty damn costly Japanese brand though.

>>62110768
Pretty damn great and cheap for that price. The keycaps and case are real thicc, and you can always upgrade to an alu case later.
The keymapping, though muddled with Chinese, is surprisingly powerful, with something like a dozen modes for the Fn key.

What is the best looking keyset for a white keyboard?

>>62108215
>>62108305
Isn’t this basically discount beamspring?

>>62110880
Varmilo are chinks lol

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>>62110936
DSA Granite.
Blank white + grey.
SA Ice Cap
Cyan Dolch
Also: Still looking for pic related keysets. It's driving me crazy. That's exactly my aesthetic.

>>62108780
Do you want a 60%? Or do you want a comfy numpad/nav cluster/F key cluster/thing island?

>>62110986
Ah right, mixed it up with Filco.

>>62110913
It uses standard QMK, so there’s no need to get chinked unless you really like that flash applet

>>62111000
They all look good but I'm too poor to buy any of them

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Can anyone tell me if typing on these ortholinear board will mess me up when I get back to normal keyboard layouts?
Because no way in hell I'm switching if that's true.

>>62111056
That's new to me. Will look into this. Thanks.

>>62111057
It's 35 bucks a set man,If you don't mind blanks plus Taobao/AliExpress (and you shouldn't),

>>62111108
>>62111057
Forgot the link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/mc-master-control-pbt-blank-keycaps-custom-mechanical-keyboards-gh60-xd64-tada68-xd84-rs96-zz96-poker2/32819695714.html

Where can I find PBT keycaps for Alps switches

>>62111121
damn shipping takes forever from aliexpress is there anywhere else I can try to get them?

I accidentally ordered all beige keycaps instead of modern beige and it looks so ugly on my keyboard.

>>62110913
>>62110859
Thanks probably gonna grab one from ali

>>62111076
Ortholinear is a meme that makes it more difficult to type and isn't ergonomic at all.

Do a simple test: rest your hands on your keyboard as you would if you were typing normally (on the home row), then extend any finger straight. does this finger go straight up towards the top of the keyboard or is it at an angle? if it's at an angle then ortho will suck dicks for you unless it's an ergonomic/ angled keyboard.

>>62111000
Are you retarded? That is just an OEM keyset with mac modifiers.

>>62111021
Filco is made by costar, who are chinks

Why does every switch suck?

>>62111967
Because life sucks

>>62112040
oh

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>>62111076
There's a reason keyboards aren't ortholinear, I find it uncomfortable and want my larger keys back. It's possible to use and maybe you can get used to it, but having staggered keys feels more natural.

My opinion might be a little different considering that I only used pick related for playing video games. I switched it back to a numpad, and it'll stay a numpad.

Is the KBD75 legit or a meme? And what switches should I get it with if I get it? I usually go for MX Blues whenever I can.

>>62111689
See, this is true for the right hand, but for the left it’s staggered the wrong way.

The obvious solution is a split ortholinear keyboard, but unfortunately these are still extremely niche and expensive for what they are.

>>62112283
It's definitely legit, it's one of the best Chinese customs you can buy for a great price. If you wanna go full meme, I know that KBDfans sells it with Zealios, but it would probably be cheaper and better to buy 90 MOD switches instead. If you really like clicky switches so bad, just buy Cherry Blues alone and put it together, you won't regret it.

>>62112287
Why are split keyboards so uncommon in general, it's such a simple solution to so many of the problems people have with keyboards

We've known adjustability is the key to ergonomics for decades but apparently peripheral makers haven't caught up

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>>62112348
Plebs don't give a flying fuck about keyboards, most people will suffer whatever rubber dome they're typing on and never have it cross their mind that they should switch.

So that means we're left with a couple of people that make ergodox splits to roughly 1000 consumers for very little return. You have a better shot actually going out, talking to some Chinks, manufacturing PCBs, and making your own split keyboards for yourself and some other retards on Geekhack. I just want to go full meme and have more 96 keyboards on the market already.

can anyone link to 84 backlight keys for the drevo excalibur?

only thing i found was just pbt caps on aliexpress
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Guys I have a Noppoo Chocmini and occasionally it seems as though the first key I press when typing something doesn't register? Anyone else experienced this before? It has brown switches if that matters.

Are there any mainstream 96 keyboards that isn't MasterKeys? Thanks.

>>62113516
Retards like you don't deserve help. If you want to post on an anime technology board then learn to sanatize your links

I like the feel of the Hyper Alloy FPS keyboard because the keys are easy to press but they also give nice feedback - But I don't want to buy a board that's so entry level... suggestions?

>>62113583
No.

>>62113632
Okay, thank you.

>>62110627
Can second this, got a vortex race 3 and its very easy to switch between windows & mac. Also comes with extra mac keycaps

Reds are too light and blues are too heavy.

Should I try brown or nature white next?

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>>62113583
Plum makes one, but I think it doesn't look good.

>Budget
Ballpark, 100$ dollars.

>Location
USA

>Preferred switch type
I'd prefer ones that don't require much force, and aren't very loud.

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
White or none.

>>62111139
AEK is plentiful but bottom row is nonstandard, wacky profile too. Other vintage alps boards have pbt but you have to look harder.

Matias is making their own pbt next yesr.

>>62113583
You can settle for fc980m.

>>62113743
>fc980m
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS

>>62111076
Ortho is only good for split boards.
With regular ones, you don't have your arms perfectly straight at the board, making the main selling point of ortholinear moot.
On split boards you can angle them in such a way that your fingers extend the same way the keys are arranged

>Can anyone tell me if typing on these ortholinear board will mess me up when I get back to normal keyboard layouts
Yes, it will. I've recently switched to an Ergodox, and while it's a great typing experience, it will mess up your muscle memory for regular staggered boards.
Before the switch I typed at around 130 WPM on regular boards. On the Ergodox I was able to reach around 30 WPM for the first few hours. A few days later, I was at around 50 on the Ergodox and 100 on the regular one.
I've been using it for a week now and manage 70 WPM on the Ergodox and only 80 on the regular one.
I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to get both up to 100-110 again though. It just takes some getting accustomed to both at the same time.
Also, most of the drop in typing speed was probably due to my shitty typing technique prior to the switch. A lot of the mistakes I currently make on the Ergodox could've been prevented by proper 10 finger typing.

That said, I'd switch to the Ergodox again if I had the chance. Typing is a lot more pleasant than on any other keyboard I've owned.

>>62108215
Hey, I'm experiencing key chattering on my "h" key, I didn't even know this was a thing.

My keyboard is a K70, with red switches, the switches are soldered to the board so I can't change them, at least not easily, is there anything I can do to mitigate that? Sometimes it goes away but sometimes it registers like, 6 keystrokes at once.

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>>62113751
Because its an 1800, not a 96 key

>>62113947
Oh, the 96 have the arrow keys integrated into the numpad and 1800 have standalone arrow keys? I thought they were the same. I've been searching for 96 & I've been wanting 1800.

>>62113947
>non standard rows
Good luck finding new caps.

>>62113930
RMA, or get a capacitive switch

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>>62113968
96 keys can have standalone arrow keys if its jammed in between. The 1800 has a seperate arrow key cluster

>>62114027
It costs too much to ship to Ameirca for a RMA, what is a capacitive switch?

>>62113886
Did you build your own or did you get an EZ? What switches?

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>>62114117
What about pic related - what’s this called?

>>62113622
retards like you need to kill yourself in real life because the only thing that you are capable of being a pseudo elitist nigger to make yourself feel good since you literally got nothing useful to say.

you are literally a sad piece of shit and the world will be a better place once you are dead

kys kthxbye

>>62114658
Unobtanium.

Filco or das keyboard? They cost about the same.

What wrist pad does /mkg/ recommend?
Whatever fits, certain brands or none at all?

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Does anyone here have any experience with Vortex Pok3r Mechanical Keyboards? Are they any good? What is a good minimalistic gaming mouse to go with it?

>>62115699
They are very good boards.
Idk, some zowie mouse or something.

>>62114459
Capacitive switches are designed to not chatter. Topres for example are rated for 25 million presses without chatter, vs the 0 of cherry. MX switches chatter because of the metal leafs inside. The firmware then corrects it with debounce times.

>>62115183
Leopold

Just bought a HyperX Alloy FPS with red switches, did I do good?

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>>62114770
>Can't sanitize a link
>Calls others retards
Is this /v/ or /g/?

>>62115699
I have pok3r with mx clears in grey (black) color. The most amazing keyboard I've ever had, it also comes with PBT keycaps and not ABS. ABS ones turn shiny after a while. PBT don't. make sure you change FN to caps lock to use keyboard shortcuts efficiently.

I'd recommend mionix castor (color versions also exist)

>>62116088
forgot mention, get the non led one.

>>62108253
w2c

>>62114643
Got an EZ Shine as the overall price was pretty much in line with other kits and the tenting mechanism seemed nice.
I got it with Clears. They do feel rather unique due to their stiff bottom out I'd say.

>>62116662
Ebay or second hand stores.

>>62116772
>shine
Why pay $30 extra for underglow?

>>62117029
I planned to use it as some sort of layer indicator without realizing that the EZ already has three LEDs for that purpose.
I guess I'll play around with them and see if I can find another practical use.
Also, I've never owned a keyboard with any kind of lighting, so I just wanted to try it for once.

>>62117022
Model name?

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Comfy Sunday

>>62115939
>avatarfagging
>calling people retarded
oh hell no, not again.

>>62117230
Filename

What's the name of the company that makes the fake b.face pcbs? And anyone has any experience with it?

>>62117331
>avatarfagging
You're a fucking retard.

>>62117318

where did you get those keys?

>>62110084
Expect it to take forever to get anything.

I did a group buy for some keycaps in June, and they just shipped this week.

>>62117638
and you still have the aids you got from your uncle.

>>62117331
>using an anime reaction image is avatarfagging
Fuck off newfag

>>62114658
zz96/rs96
p. expensive tho

>>62117331
Not him, but damn you're actually retarded

I want to get a POK3R but mod the connector and get an USB C.
Where do I even start? Are AliExpress USB C good enough?

>>62111076
>>62108706

>>62118173
Also, I will get one with reds and then replace then with blues, and then get a razer orbweaver and replace their switches with the reds from POK3R.

Majestouch 2 ninja or wasd v2? Torn between these two.

>Want a Ducky One non-RGB for those volume buttons, but in EU I can find it only in white and it's hideous for my taste
>well fuck it, it's not like I wanted those media keys anyway
>Learn in this thread about 96 keys, but they're so expensive that I thought they were made by Topre
>A good alternative is the Leopold FC980M
>Find it with cherry blue for 130€
Yay or nay?

>>62118812
What country, cause there are several black Ducky Ones for 90-110€

>>62118812
Leopold keyboards aren't programmable like Ducky keyboards. If you like the layout then go for it, just know you can't have dedicated volume keys like a ducky

>>62115636
2x4 at your local illegal immigrant hangout.

>>62118851
I've looked at every single european site that's listed under the "Partners" page in Ducky Channel's official site, and all of them had the same white model with green prints of Ducky One (I specifically wanted the non-RGB version with PBT caps), which I really dislike aesthetically.

>>62118889
I thought that those keys were a great addition for a full size keyboard, since they use space that's otherwise unused and they must be really handy. Without them available as additional keys, the 96 keys form factor seems a great alternative to the regular 100%.

>>62119063
Then you didn't look hard enough. The first website listed on there has them in stock
https://www.alternate.nl/Ducky/Toetsenborden/Ducky-One/onverlicht
The one in france, germany, and iceland has them as well

>>62119112
Mh, probably I've ignored everything wasn't written in english.

>Budget
Don't care, show me all my options

>Location
UK

>Preferred switches
Brown

>Layout
ISO preferably but would consider ANSI

>Form factor
~80%

>Backlight
White LED

>Chassis/Finish
Ideally, I'd like something sturdy. I like clean, dark metal looks. Minimal, aesthetic - not ricer.

>>62119157
Google translate exists, and besides its pretty obvious what the specs are and how to order them

>>62119167
Ducky, Leopold, and Filco are all great options

>>62119223
Cool cheers. I like the look of the Ducky One TKL.

This CM keyboard looks good too. What's the verdict on them?
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_30544.html

Also, for key caps - what's the situation like for aftermarket keycaps with translucent lettering for these backlit keyboards?

>>62119559
Lots of them to choose from. I'd just get the ones with PBT keycaps as stock

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Is this counts as a 60%? It seems comfy apart from the placement of the navigation cluster.

If I buy a custom ASIO PCB, can I add "ñ" to it via firmware?

Just got a ducky one
the 'fn' key is acting like a right click and i cant use it for anything else.
Any ideas to change that?

I bought a romer-meme keyboard in another country and brought it back to where I live.Some Keys keep falling out and I am 100% positive that the switches are the problem. Is there any way for me to fix there or no?

Is there a 60% PCB that supports both RGB underglow and RGB backlight?

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I spilled water on my pok3r RGB and it fried half of the board. Thinking of getting a Filco M2 for replacement.

On The Keyboard Company they're selling the Matias Tactile Pro for £94.80. How's that keyboard? How the switches compare to cherry blue?

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>>62115699
I loved mine. Shame it didn't like having a beer spilled all over it. Got a Tada68 in the post to replace it though so happy days.

>>62111076
what keycaps are those?

>>62121634
DSA Granite.

>>62120162
Dip switch on the back

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>>62121267
please?

would someone buy my old keyboard even if it's dirty?

>>62122605
Why don't you just clean it and use retrobrite?

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>>62122605
yes

>>62121592
Bump. Also, how do the tactile switches compare to the quiet switches?

>>62123069
quiet clicks are tactile and...quiet.

>>62123401
Are they worth the 45% increase in price? Beside, what I really wanted to know is if matias are better than cherry mx.

>>62108215
Someone told me not to get cherry mx browns. Without giving me a reason as to of why... So why?

>>62123566
The tactile bump is so small that it feels more like a rough linear switch. It's very unpleasant even if you come from a rubber dome keyboard.

>>62123608
hmmmm, well i really just want a 85% keyboard (only the numpad).
I only dislike blues because of the click sound it makes.

was going to buy this with browns but now im not sure - http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-pro-m-white/
They have this in Blue, Brown, Red and Silver

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>>62123566

>>62123676
You want 85% of a numpad? For what purpose?

What switch has a bigger bump, Gateron blue or Cherry? I currently have gateron blue switches but I want a new keyboard and almost all of the ones I want use Cherry switches.

>>62123496
On both tactile and clicky, yes matias are much better than any mx. The tactility is real, as opposed to weak little bumps even in gaterons.

>>62121592
Matias is closer to Buckling Springs than MX Blues. Blues feel linear by comparison (which they are, being a modified MX Black).

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Haven't been following lately. Have any new Cherry MX Clear/Zeal/MOD/whatever keyboards with floating keys released recently? Pic related, MK Fission.

Amazon said they will ship a keyboard in it's original box without any bubble wrap because it's "frustration free packaging" whatever the fuck that means. Should I order something else? I don't want it breaking.

>>62111076
Hey, sorry, can I get the link to this or a full image? I'm curious about the layout.

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>>62112209
>>62111689
the rows on a standard keyboard are offset (quarter key, half key, quarter key) to make room for the physical arms of a typewriter
something no electric keyboard ever had
it is fucking retarded (especially from a human hand perspective) and anything that claims otherwise is blatant lies

>>62124814
half key, quarter key, half key*

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>>62111076
>>62124722
Found it.

>>62124835
what is the purpose of this board?

>>62124718
"Frustration-free" means it's in a cardboard box instead of a clamshell or other plastic.

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>>62124679
Besides the hundreds of custom chinese keyboards.
Race 3 came out like 3 months ago. Vortex core was earlier this year, ViBe is also coming soon. Ducky came out with the shine 6. While the keyboard doesn't have a floating design it comes with low profile keycaps

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Has anyone bought the Drevo Tyrfing 87 key? Seems like the best non-rainbow brown switch keyboard that's about $50.

>>62124953
Keycaps look like shit, but if you don't care about looks then get any keyboard with gateron browns.

>>62108215
w2c?

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>>62124852
It's ortholinear, so a lot more keys in a small package. I believe that is a so-called 75% board can fit in a 60% case.
Also, my original idea was that, with a board like that, one can easily create a layout similar to pic related, with a the numpad on the left side.

>>62124937
Thanks, but I also failed to mention I'm also looking for 100%. Not like I had high hopes to begin with. Reduced meme is killing me.

>>62125235
Turns out, a lot of people don't need to type numbers that much and that often.
It's pure supply and demand shit, man.

>>62124117
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>>62125267
The top numbers are good enough for me to be honest. I only ever used the numpad to play roguelikes that don't support arrow keys.