/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>62083363
first for 4 month assdrop delay

>>62083363
These meme keyboards are getting ridiculous!
Whats next? a fucking keyboard with 10 keys that have multiple letters and functions on each key?

>>62083494
>not wanting a mechanical T9 board

>>62083494
Anything 60% and below is purely a meme

>>62083363
heyguyshowdoyoulikemynewkeyboard

>>62083494
A 1 key keyboard for binary input. 1 key press is 0, 2 key presses isn rapid succession is 1.

>>62083363
why is there an Ä on that keyboard when Ö and Ü aren't present?

>>62083574
kek

>>62083363
Where to buy this keyboard?

>>62083363
>XXX button
Does it actually type "xxx"? My porn googling could be better.

https://s5o.ru/storage/simple/ru/edt/90/66/20/98/rued12e60b9a7.jpg
Юpий бyдeт дyть, дyть бyдeт юpий!

I'm going to get an ISO POK3R RGB with mx reds and then switch them to Gateron Blue.

Never ever did any kind of soldering, but I guess a friend has one, so he will lend it to me.
What other tools should I get and what's a good guide on how to solder? Also, any other recommendations since it will be my first """"""mod""?

>>62083574
>not using half a key press as 0, and a full key press as 1

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I currently have pic related. Corsair K65 with cherry reds. Works great. I however dislike the keys. Do they make keycaps that would fit this keyboard? I'd like to just get plain black caps.

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nth for 75%

>>62083675
>using an analog keyboard
whew lad

>>62083680
best fucking layout ever. Just got my Drevo Excalibur and I love it. The font is shit and I'm gonna change caps soon buth otherwise this thing is amazing.

>>62083708
should have bought a 60% this is my layout

>>62083718
Can't live without function keys. Some things just can't be done in layers. A keyboard isn't an Ogre.

>>62083736
but its MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINEEEEEEEE
YOU FUCKO

>>62083574
Every half second of no input is a 0 and every half second of input is a 1

>>62083790
That would keep users all over the planet perfectly synchronized. Genius!

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>assdrop
why

>>62083825
With this we'd be one step closer to a superior biological CPU. Just think of the possibilities. I could make it suck my dick!!!

>>62083680
75% is my layout, faggot

>>62083677
are your wrists cool after typing for a long time? That seems like it has a lot of action. Looks super kewl tho

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>>62083858
Bought my first 75% in 2013 FAGGOT! Pic related is from back then. Now I have a white choc mini .
ITS MY LAY OUT
how do i convince all of you pieces of shit to go back to your shitty meme 60%, TKL, and full size boards? I hate this. IM THE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE MEMEMEMEMEEME MEME MEMEM EME NOT U

>>62083677
I'm pretty sure all the upper part of the keyboard has standard sized keys, so any keycap would fit, only the bottom part have different sizes, they do make keycaps that fit it sure, you just have to look for the dimensions and make sure it's the same.

>>62083875
>thinking I didn't build a 75% keyboard before they were available to buy

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Is there such a thing like a TKL but instead of removing the numpad, the nav buttons are ditched?

>>62083902
Ok I'll look around. That seems to be the general thought in the K65 as well. That it fits all major keys, just the bottom row has a 6.5x space bar and the keys are an odd size.

The question is now though. Text? Or blank caps? I'll be going with plain black caps and was in the fence about side printed or no print.

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>>62083875
>implying I haven't used the OG 75% since the early 2000s

>>62083940
>>62083875
Recommend me 75% boards.
Are the Drevo boards meme quality or is it just the keycaps?

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>>62083989
Okay fine. KBD75 seems like the best 75%. After that my first choice is a Cherry Noppoo Choc mini but these are nearly impossible to find. The gateron ones are shit, they key chatter like crazy. I will type the rest of this with out the keychatter software enabled.
There are haradware key debounce options on the f keys but they don't actually do anything, Ii've tried all of the different settings. Try to fiind one with pom keys too they arae very nice.
Outsiide of that I guess your onlly options are the vortex and ak33 but the problem wiith those are the non-standarad top row. Atl east there aare aa few sets that fit the noppoo.
The drevo's look good but the LEDs make me worry. I'm confident they'll go ata some point. They alsol misspelt "exaliibur" on the back of iit. The gramr looks okay, just like a noppoo. Iii'll be buyiiing one of them to test.

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>>62083519
I'd say anything smaller than TKL is a meme, you're making space and function concessions for perceived aesthetics. A 60% isn't significantly smaller than a TKL but it is significantly less practical.

>>62083972
WHAT that's even less productive than TKL!

>>62083989
>>62084053
I agree with the quality of the KBD75 but you have to build that. I think the Vortex Race 3 is very nice, thats the 75% I've been using lately. People complain about the vortex because of the irregular top row but the stock keycaps are very nice so that doesn't matter to me. There's also the tada68 which I'm not crazy about.

>>62084125
>I'd say anything smaller than TKL is a meme
There isn't much difference between a TKL and 75% other than extra spacing and a few buttons most people don't use. I'd say they're essentially the same functionality.

>>62084125
People with fullsizes shouldn't open their mouths.

>>62083972

96 boards. Basically a fullsized board in TKL format. Very difficult to get atm, though.

>>62084201
It matters to me because they're white and so will look just as bad as my noppoo in >>62084053
Gonna try the drevo excalibur and gramr in the fall.

>>62084125
The numpad has those keys already embedded, and you can toggle them with the numlock key. I think it would be a better tradeoff than a TKL: with a TKL you lose the numpad to gain space, on the other side you retain functionality and gain some space at the expense of having to press numlock every once in a while.

>>62084202
Thanks.
>Very difficult to get atm, though.
Shit!

>Budget
not more than 150€

>Location (continent at least)
Europe

>Preferred switch type
Switch Mx Brown

>Layout
ISO

>Form factor
Without a numpad

>Backlight
yes

I don't know much about the best keyboards, and I'm wondering if I should buy the Ozone Strike Battle, looks good to me.
Thanks in advance for any answers

>>62084239
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-iii-ver-a-96-key-custom-keyboard-kit

Can wait for a drop here. But they became unavailable even on taobao, so it looks bad.

There is also duck lightsaver, which is even more rare, shitty board from Cooler master(https://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00A378L4C) and another shiity non-programmable kit on aliexpress.

>>62084229
What matters the vortex keycaps? I wouldn't say they're white..more like a very light gray but I care more about the material they're made of, texture, etc. Better than a lot of stock keycaps

>>62083978
Just your opinion really, but blank caps are probably going to be easier to find in a different size than side printed caps.

>>62084202
And yeah, tkl is a failure. So much wasted space with no gains. 75% is much better and 96kbs are absolutely superior.

guide anywhere for this, only find soldering ones

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/XD75Re-pcB/3034003_32818745981.html

>>62084322
>i dont like the layout so its a failure and im not giving any valid reasons for it

>>62084401
Use ur brain moron. TKL is just a fullsize with keys removed and ton of empty space. 75% has everything tkl has, smaller size and better ergonomics, 96 has more keys and keeps the same size.

>>62084293
>groupbuys
I'd rather not.
That Cooler Master seems cool tho, but if you say it's shit, I'd avoid it.

>>62084318
This is just overkill. Don't get me wrong, that piece of machined aluminum is beautiful, I'm not joking, but shelling out all those money for something that isn't even a complete keyboard means that I'd overshoot my budget once I account for switches, keycaps, a soldering kit, and learning to solder. Also, it's a groupbuy.

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Why is the 1800 layout so popular, but 96key isn't? I can find so many affordable keyboards based of the 1800, while the cheapest 96key is from some chink kit that looks ugly

>>62084429
Don't lie, 75% doesn't have everything a tkl has although it does have most of it. We're talking about an inch difference on average between the two, not the biggest deal. "Ton of empty space" is misleading and you know it.

>>62084466
> That Cooler Master seems cool tho, but if you say it's shit, I'd avoid it.
It's shit compared to custom boards. Like it's not programmable and there is only one layout (and there is a gap between keypad and main keys), but it's a decent board overall. Although cm boards sometimes have issues. It's also cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01ITE93K6 this one is updated version.

>>62084504
> "Ton of empty space" is misleading and you know it.
Bitch, look at a 96 board and then look at a TKL board.
> Don't lie, 75% doesn't have everything a tkl has although it does have most of it.
Yeah, can't live without scroll lock.

>>62084504
>two less keys
Oh no what will I do without a left windows key and scroll lock. My life is, wait... I'll just program it with an Fn modifier, that way if for some reason I need to use it I can.
There are legit reasons to not want a 75% like a lack of keycaps, but even then new sets are coming out regularly that support them, and even some chink shit keycaps come with the extra keys too. complaining about the lack of keys is just retarded

>>62084587
>>62084642
I use a tkl at work and 75% at home so idk what you guys are trying to prove here. I just had to call you out for lying because, like you just admitted, there are fewer keys on a 75%. That is all!

>>62084696
Are u autistic? Were u bullied hard in school? Does shitposting make u hard?

>62084696
You're still lying tho. Its clear you're a troll and don't own a 75% keyboard.

>>62084738
Yes very autistic. Yes I was bullied super hard. Shitposting indeed makes me erect. Anything else?

>>62084891
What's stopping you from killing yourself?

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>>62084934
the shitposting, i would assume

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>>62084229
> and so will look just as bad as my noppoo
As someone who has both choc mini and race 3, this is absolutely not true.

The aluminum body, black plate, floating key design with bezel flush with keycaps, different shades of light/dark grey on keycaps and centered legends with side-print not being shitty all make the keyboards look completely different.

Hell, even replacing keycaps alone on choc mini greatly improves its looks.

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>>62083677
> corsair k65
My nigga.

>>62085129
What's the point of a keyboard this crippled? And it's ugly, too.

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>>62085418
Don't you know, the smaller the keyboard the better you are at programming.

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>>62085418
>What's the point of a keyboard this crippled?
shitposting

if anyone tries to tell you an ortholinear is in any way comfortable to use, they're fucking lying to you

>>62084934
Shitposting, who is going to troll you if I do that?

>>62084563
>It's shit compared to custom boards
No shit, however custom boards are three times as expensive, and need time and effort to become operational. I don't have neither the money nor the will.

Well, what about full size keyboards that come with media keys? I've seen keyboards having dedicated keys for volume up/down and mute above the numpad. Are those custom boards purchased through expensive groupbuys?

g-g-g-guys something arrive from ch-ch-china
i think is a n-n-n-new meme

what should i do with the package? it even moves!

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>>62086043
You mean like Duckys? You can find them almost every were in the world since Ducky channel is the largest mechanical keyboard distributor in the whole world.

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>>62083574
I think you want a telegraph key.

>>62083574
>>62083675
>>62083790
MY SIDES

I got my CM QFR-i with browns back in Jan. 2016, and I replaced the stock caps with PBT doubleshot ones from Aliexpress. For the past two years it has been serving me wonderfully, and typing on it feels like when it was new. It was worth the money.

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>>62083988
>Got one of these new for $15 a couple years ago

>>62086428
Nice, I'll look around for those, thanks.

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This is my favorite keyboard of all time. Just a shitty old last-gen generic dell keyboard. I can type extremely fast on this thing.

Can anyone recommend a mechanical keyboard with a similar feel to this? Similar key pressure needed, etc.. Sorry I'm a retard and know nothing about mechanical keyboards.

>>62083363
If I hired someone and they showed up with this, I'd just tell them to go ahead and leave.

>>62087024
BTC foam and foil

>>62087053
>you have a company to hire people

>>62087053
What if they can achieve 120wpm with this memeboard?

>>62083458
seriously, what the fuck. I want my planck.

>>62083363
Why don't we have an IRC? To practice typing of course.

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My Ducky One (Cherry MX Clears) finally came in

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I want one so much.

>>62083363
I want a fucking Diverge TM 2 but I'm stuck in wageslaveland

>>62087687
Did you preorder it too? I got mine this past week but it was a TKL version

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:^)

>>62087687
What's the function of first key on the right of the Pause key, and what's written on it??

>>62087866
kinesis advantage is much better

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>>62083494
>Whats next? a fucking keyboard with 10 keys that have multiple letters and functions on each key?
You mean a chording keyboard? Pic related uses only 6 keys.

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>>62085488
>keyboard has katakana characters on it
>has only 35 keys
>there are 46 katakana characters

Hi guys, idiot gamer person here. I have a question, can one keyboard be faster than another? I know a lot of gaming companies would have me believe that their boards are faster than greased lightning but is it ALL just advertising bullshit? I see some "gaming" switches now have shorter actuation points with I guess make them slightly faster, but I can't imagine the difference is anything other than minuscule. Is it all just smoke and mirrors or can one keyboard be faster or more responsive than another? And if so, how?

>>62088322
It's not adjustable and you can't reposition it. It's also really ugly and big.

>>62085590
It’s only good on split keyboards.

>>62088322
But it’s not

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>>62083972
There is. Cooler master made keyboards like that.
>cooler master quick fire

Is the magicforce numpad worth it for $23 on memedrop?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-21-mechnical-numpad?mode=guest_open

Mostly going to be used for games, I’ll be getting gat browns

>>62088821
$24, sorry

>>62083622
Of course it does. That keyboard's actually called The Gherkin, because it's for jerkin your gherkin.

Is there such a thing as a good 75% wireless mechanical keyboard? Google results are just reviews of bad quallity ones

>>62084374
>>62084374

What is the closest thing to quiet Blues

>>62090034
Nothing. Its like asking for a silenced grenade. If you want a tactile switch that's quiet then Matias quiet click is your only option

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>>62090034
>>62090108
lol excuse me pls

>>62090250
Still too loud. The down upstroke isn't silenced, plus blues have a bigger tactile bump then browns. Clears are heavier then both marias qc and browns. Besides you don't know anything about keyboards so why even bother to give advice.

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>>62090338
Hey relax buddy guy, I didn't disparage something you hold dear. You simply said "only option" and I'm pointing out that is demonstrably false. Just like your opinion of my knowledge.

>>62090411
He wanted a nice tactile switch that was also quiet. Browns with o-rings are a light tactile switch that are still loud. Its not what he wants. If you knew that then you wouldn't have recommended them. My point still stands

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>>62090250
>Brown switches
>Tactile

>>62088821
It's a decent deal, the only problem is it isn't programmable. The only numpad option with programmability is a DIY board from Taobao for $36, so enjoy what you have.

>>62088311

Calculator, it opens the calculator app, very useful imo

>>62088070

Yup preordered 2 weeks ago

>>62090250
>cherry browns
>with an o ring
why are you even using a mechanical keyboard at this point, might as well go chiclet

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>>62090467
Your recommendation is better, I don't dispute that, I dispute your absolute declaration that there is no other option.

>>62090582
They sure are. I feel them under my fingers right now. If you feel they aren't then I would recommend acquiring the services of a lawyer to sue Cherry and every company that uses them for false advertising.

But I think you're aware of how ridiculous your assertion is.

>>62090807
What's the o-ring got to do with mechanical switches?

Is there any good and trustworthy aliexpress store for custom keyboards?
Do you guys have experiences with any?

>>62090874
The bump on brown switches isn't even noticeable it isn't tactile or linear, it's just garbage.

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As someone who has never owned a mechanical keyboard before, would you guys recommend me to spend quite a lot for a "premium keyboard" (CM Masterkeys Pro S) or just cheap out on a chink keyboard?

>>62090874
>Poor mans Beretta 92
Might as well just buy some highpoints

>>62084202
Anything other than a standard issue keyboard that comes with a prebuilt computer is a meme and it should actually be illegal to have any keyboard that doesn't have every single key.

>>62084374
Can you configure layout an make new layers with this pcb?

>>62090916
Get that lawyer on speed dial my lad, you could be a millionaire.

>>62090936
>>>/k/

>>62090874
God look at the colour inconsistency on those alphas, E D and L look like they're from a separate keyset entirely. Why does anyone still buy Tai-hao when they're so bottom of the barrel quality?

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I want to build GH-60
How to start ?
Just buy everyrhing ?
Or is there something to take attention before buying?

>>62091333
Obviously because they're cheap and PBT.

>>62083363
Hmm...will that fit in my pocket? You may be onto something

>>62091924
Its too thicc. Maybe with low profile kecaps you can fit it in there

>>62083363
topre is the best,
I feel like a fucking pleb with my mx blues / browns.

I miss that cushy, soft, velvet bottom out after the nice hard tactile click and a little nudge back up.

Topre is like playing a piano.

>>62088797
I have one of those, its annoying as fuck when you forget NumLock is turned on and you start inserting double zeros

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>>62090892
Shameless bump...
Pls /mkg/

>>62087024
Same. Mine grew on me so much in the Navy that I stole it.

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>>62091924
If you want a pocket-sized keyboard look into building a 40% with Cherry ML or Kailh low-profile switches
http://www.40percent.club/2017/07/mlp-11.html

>>62084322
75% looks nice, but spaces for the F1-F12 row is invaluable for me.

>>62092475
Kbdfans is goat

>>62090933
Just get a keyboard from KBDfans with pbt keycaps and you're set.

>>62084202
>People with fullsizes shouldn't open their mouths.

>t. Mac Toddler

Someone recommend me cheap 60% keyboards

>>62093072
an pro

TKL and Fullsize are crutches

Once you learn Vim bindings and use stuff like Qute Browser or Vimperator, 60% are objectively more efficient than TKL and Fullsize...you cannot dispute this

>>62092941
Thanks a lot kind anon, now wish me luck I fuck up a pcb lol

>>62093121
Full alphabet is a crutch. Real men use chorded keyboards.

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https://github.com/trebb/nan-15

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sometimes i feel like i need more macro keys

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Is there a PCB that can have RGB from both sides? Or is it overkill?
I want to make sure my next keyboard screams "I like dick" :^)

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>>62083494
>10 keys
seriously though, the 30% are the most aesthetic boards and the most portable
that shit will even fit into a lady jeans pocket

>>62093538
The K-type, I guess.

>>62088204
damn

>>62091864
pulse? damn, missed the drop

>>62091864
Reminder that you can buy all the parts from taobao for 35$ + shipping.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6v4lzo/60_keyboard_kit_for_less_than_35/

>>62083858
England is my city

>>62094329
Fuck off britfags
ISO a shit

What's a good price for a model m ssk?

>>62094476
>small as fuck enter key
>even smaller backspace
>no accented letters
>a lot of keys are dedicated to special characters
That keyboard might be handy if you have to code, but for literally everything else, especially writing in a non-american language ANSI just doesn't cut it.
t. Italian guy

Should I build a x75re or a preonic?

>>62094527
>small as fuck enter key
ANSI is 1x2.25, ISO is 1x1.5+1x1.25, the size difference is negligible and 2.25 is big enough anyway.
>even smaller backspace
You're literally retarded, both ANSI and ISO use 2u for backspace. Only JIS has a small backspace by default because Japanese typing needs as many keys as possible.

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Memeforces

>>62083680

what keyboard is this?

Where can I find Cherry profile PBT keycaps for around $50 with fast shipping?

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is pic related worth getting?

>>62095347
I think you'd be better off with a regular FC980

>>62094523
100-150 bucks. Add 50 if its bolt modded

>>62095300
KBDfans

>>62094611
One you'll actually receive in the mail, the other will never ever reach your doorstep, because 'oops, we forgot how customs works".

Go for the Chink shit, it's good.

>>62095347
If you want a cherry MX keyboard for 10 bucks then sure. I'd get the data911 instead though

I've been using my Magicforce 108 with gateron blues for weeks and I actually like rubber domes better.

>>62095909
Go full Topre and never look back.

>>62096005
>Topre
They're just too expensive.

>>62096025
What are you poor?

>>62096050
Yes.

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What does XDA look like?

What is the best topre clone keyboard?

>>62096138
Like shit.

>>62096206
More precisely?

>>62096174
A logitech K120

>>62096218
That keyboard is better than any mechanical keyboard you can buy simply because mechanical switches are shit.

>>62096215
Take a shit into an ice tray, then put it in the freezer. After a couple hours you have XDA keycaps

>>62096249
It is mechanical though. A rubber dome colapsing onto a conductive membrane layer is a mechanical action. If you look at the dictionary definetion of mechanical you'd find out that rubber domes are indeed mechanical

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>>62096138

>>62095036
Which keyset feels better the OEM profile or Cubic?

>>62096292
thanks a bunch anon

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>>62095288
Noppoo choc mini

What keyset would look good on a white keyboard?

im looking for a keyboard which has an aluminum case, so far i only know of a few, vortex pok3r and vortex race 3 and corsair vengeance

pok3r ist to minimalistic for my taste
the race 3 esc and del key trigger me.
i have seen an aftermarket case for tada68 but i'd prefer 75%, 100% would be ideal
vengeance is only on the top side aluminum

varmilo, leopold or kbparadise sadly don't sell anything with aluminum cases, while having a pretty great selection.

anyone know where to look for or should i aim for the vortex race 3?

>>62096680
oh and rgb backlight would be nice, the pok3r keycap font is horrible and i couldn't be arsed to look for different caps

>>62096626
Miami

>>62096680
MK Fission. Filco and varmilo have lots of after market metal cases

>>62096751
i only know of one reseller for varmilo in germany and he doesn't have any. filco i have not seen anywhere, not even amazon.

>>62096751
also which shops have the best selection? ebay is pretty awful to search, same as aliexpress or mechanicalkeyboards.com

>>62096361

You can feel the separation between the keys better with cubic, but I think overall the OEM feels nicer; I definitely type faster on they OEM, but that might just be because I'm used to it.

does anyone have a comparison image of tai hao PBT and gateron/enjoyPBT?

>>62093374
You already used up all modifier+macrokey combos?

>>62085590
I wish people would say this more often, I almost fell for the meme

Looking for a keyboard with matias quiet linear switches, that isn't from matias. I can't deal with the God ugly hump on their keyboards. Any suggestions?

>>62096919
candykeys

>>62097223
Custom keyboard

>>62097249
have you looked at the shop? 80% of the things are out of stock and doesn't have aftermarket cases except the above mentioned tada68, which im not interested in in the first place. the shop looks nice, reviews are good but there's almost nothing that can be bought

why aren't black switches very popular anymore?

>>62097391
Because marketing convinced people they weren't "good for typing" likes blues or browns or "good for gaming" like reds, putting them in a position where most consumers don't want to buy them.

>>62097414
to be honest blues arent actually good for typing. i find it comical since all day im selling cherry keyboards but my business uses chicklet scissor switches everywhere. black and red are essentially the same anyway so im surprised that red won, feels too light to me

>>62097512
>>62097414
the first and only mechanical keyboard i bought was with black switches and i like it for both cases typing and playing games.

since im pondering over which new keyboard to buy as replacement, and vortex race 3 being in the closer selection pool, i'd probably have to change switches. are clear switches any good?

>>62097512
I personally used cherry black, gateron black and mx silver (reds with reduced travel and higher actuation point) and I don't see the point of blacks at all. Their increases resistance is completely pointless, it doesn't affect my typing in any way at all other than making it a bit slower.

So I personally don't see why would anyone use blacks over reds.

>>62097583
Don't pick switches blindly, it's completely subjective. You may like the tactile feedback, you may hate it. Same can be said about activation force.

Get a switch tester.

>>62096680
Most Chinese customs come with full aluminum cases.

Try getting this, it's nice.
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/kbd75-keyboard-set?variant=35638534029

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>>62083363
So EnjoyPBT is capable of making PBT Cherry profile kits with these type of colorways, but instead they're wasting their time making this monstrosity.

Why the hell aren't these guys running GMK out of business? They could easily take "open source" colorways like Carbon and Calm Depths, and completely run the market. Chinks man, will never understand them.

So are Magicforces really good?
Did I make a good decision, /mkg/?

>>62097885
Sure. If you've never touched a mech before, noobs like Outemu switches.

If you're serious, getting a Magicforce with Gateron switches is still a good deal. Anything else is a waste of time (Cherry is really only decent compared to Gateron).

>>62097885
Yes they're good, unless you got outemu switches then you messed up.

>>62097917
>>62097919

Got the Gateron browns. I had a Razer TKL before this and it took up too much space, on top of being tacky so I sold it for this.

>>62097777
How about zinc or steel cases?

>>62097946
I have never heard of a zinc case, but if you really want steel, I'm sure there's probably a guy crazy enough to make one on Geekhack.

The thing is, you actually want some level of flexibility when it comes to keyboard cases, especially for the plate. Some people specifically get brass plates because they're more flexible than aluminum. Just get an aluminum case and enjoy it like everyone else, anything metal is better than plastic.

>>62097940
Good choice then, Outemu switches are inconsistent trash.

Also, Gateron Brown > Kailh Box Brown > shit >>>> Cherry Brown

>>62098061
Rubber dome> Shit> any brown switch

>>62098027
The new models F have zinc cases I believe

I'm thinking of getting either das keyboard IV, or corsair k70. Which is better? The corsair is much cheaper.

>around 100€
>Turkey
>MX Blue
>ISO
>60%
>Yes
>I currently own a Logitech G710+ it's huge and I want a small compact keyboard

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What is the best layout for someone who uses emacs for virtually everything?

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>>62098434
Get those old 60% emac keyboards from the early 2000s

>>62090250
>turns his keyboard into a rubberdome feelalike with orings
>terrible taste in switches
>terrible taste in guns
Did your diabeetus take your sense along with your sight?

Is there a list of all keyboards that have a delete/backspace key right above enter like the HHKB? I specifically want hardware, not software solutions. Anything with a DIP switch that allows this is fine.

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>>62083494

Thanks for reminding me to do my monthly Textblade status check (A keyboard that tries to do just that). As expected, it's still not out.

>>62098583
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/category/keyboards-backspace-above-enter

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>>62098414
help

>>62098606
Almost fell for it, you should work on your trolling skills, maybe it'll work.

>>62098608
ancak amazondan alirsin.

any recommendation for alternative keycaps for the dervor excalibur? price is amazing but good lord the font is horrible

>>62098698
60% ISO ve arka aydınlatmalı klavye bulamıyorum aradığım fiyata

>>62083363

>someone spills a cola on my keyboard
>wipe it down
>8 sticky keys
>follow cleaning guide
>two still sticky

Ugh, I hate desoldering. I'd rather build an entire new board.

>>62083826
>Getting zealicios on ass drop when zeal had a GB on his site at the same time
You deserve it for being dumb desu

>>62087024
Rubbreh domeh

>>62087540
Wpm doesn't mean shit for programming when you spend 90% of your time trying to remember where you mapped all your keys

>>62088729
>Being this much of a retard you can't Google your query

>>62090108
>Being too poor to afford meme tacts
Seriously though zeals are amazing

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What keycap set is this? Looks like DSA Granite but the legend is on the top left, not dead center like the Granite set.

>>62099186
Should I go for 65g or 67g? Also thinking about buying a set for my custom.

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I also want to be an autist with <60% keyboard.
Is it possible to buy those or do I need to build it myself?
I want a portable keyboard I can bring along with my laptop.
I will be going to Japan some time later this year as well in case that increases my chances of finding one/parts to build one.
My current kb uses cherry brown and I would want something similar on my next one.
Budget should not be a big problem but I don't want to waste money if I can get around it.

>>62090618
>doesn't use whatever programming language they're working in at the moment as a calculator
The fuck¿

>>62090933
"Premium" is reserved for custom builds

>>62099533
You can buy the Mechmini whose GB is ending literally today or tomorrow.
There's also the Vortex Core.

>>62092037
Rubbreh domeh

>>62092899
Lrn2touchtype pleb

>>62093121
>This
Vim is life and all those who need full size boards aren't programmers

>>62093374
Buy a programmable and you can set as many macros as you want

Not sure if this is the right thread for it but could someone point out any real benefits of fast typing? It's the only skill I have and I want to feel better about myself desu.

>>62094476
ISO is based
Love having a big enter key when submitting jobs to our HPC
I am a Burger but use a modified ISO layout

>>62094527
I'm a programmer in the us and confirm that iso is better for programming
Who the fuck out the pipe key where it is for ansi

>>62094759
.5 is not negotiable

>>62095909
Because a MF with gat blues is worse than rubber domes. So much scratch and shit build

>>62096249
>Mechanical switches are shit
Found the poor boy who can't afford good switches

>>62099817
They aren't even scratchy they're very smooth except for the bump of course. I just prefer rubber domes.

>>62096292
That graphic is ass. Why so many different rows compared? On sculpted caps it is a useless comparison unless you choose a row and stick with it

>>62099849
I have gateron switches

>>62099785
alright let me give you a perfect example of why iso, specially iso-de, is fucking garbage and needs to fucking die and is complete fucking cancer to code with;
if i have to use curly brackets i'd have remove my hand from the jkl position to press altgr + 7 ir 0, for square brackets the same shit just with 8 and 9.

clearly you have not used iso layouts or programmed at all

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>>62096680
>into custom keyboard
>not bothering to get into taobao an aliexpress
Come on my dude.
https://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm

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>>62100061
Kek
Lrn2keyboard

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>>62099565
Found the interpreted Jew. Real men use compiled languages thus making a physical calculator faster to use
>Inb4 not just making your own full calculator in C

>>62096292
DSA is the easiest one to imagine. Literally same height everywhere. What's not to get?

>>62095909
The MF is like $30.
That's like saying I hate laptop now because my current circa-2010 netbook is shit.

>>62097862
I thought that set looked nice, except for the row of gray F keys.

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>>62098414
>>62098698

They've developed a language!

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>>62093538
Bump to this, I'm also interested on both underglow and RGB keys
>mfw ultimate rgb

>>62098511
when a hippie on acid designs your keycaps and decides to print his marxist manifesto on them

>>62100196
>Claims to use languages that need compiling
>Didn't make a calculator as their babies first program
Oy vey

>>62099881
>Implying switches make the board
It's still a piece of chink plastic crap
At least you didn't go full meme and throw a set of caps worth 4x the board on it

>>62099861
Maybe my coworker lied and actually got outse
I just know the blue MF I've used IRL were all shit and scratchy

>>62099429
Depends on what you want
I picked up my first board for myself (work had Mkeyboards for us) with 78g zeals. Will never turn back

>>62100306
Switches do make the board, what its made of makes no difference

>>62100408
>implying mushy pcb-mounted switches are the same as solid plate-mounted
what the board is made of absolutely matters for quality

>>62100480
Switches matter way more

>>62100061
Just buy an ANSI for work. I'm sure that for writing in any European language the appropriate ISO layout will be infinitely better.

TOO FUCKING BAD NOBODY PRODUCES ISO-IT CAPS FUCK!

>>62099388
that's not even in DSA anon

>>62099533
i bought a 40% from aliexpress and it came soldered. someone fucked up my order and it landed in Pakistan so they shipped me a new one already made.
But you need to edit the firmware because the default one sucks balls

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>>62100258
No one makes dye-sublimated keycaps like that anymore. BSP used too, but now its just for one offs.

b.fake or GH60 Satan RGB?

/g/ help me find a keyboard.

>Budget
Up to about 200
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Blues
>Layout
ISO or ANSI doesn't matter to me
>Form factor
Full with keypad. Volume controls would be nice
>Backlight
Must have RGB, bonus feature if no special software needed
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Zero DK2108S

I basically want my current keyboard, but with RGB lighting. Does anyone know anything about the One RGB? Basically I want a fairly no-bullshit keyboard that has RGB lighting capability. Bonus points for no software. Would like a relatively small bezel, no wristwrest, and volume control is a plus to have but not required. Been really happy with my 2108S so far but wanted to see if there's anything else out there people know of that I might not know of. No artisan chadboards please. Also no gaymen brands like Cooler Master, Corsair or Razer.

Thanks /g/

Would a 60% help my CTS?

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>>62088323
so that's what it looks like

>>62103036
Not typing for a few months would.

>>62103031
Aside from the Ducky One and the Ducky Shine, there's also the MK Fission, though it's only an RGB side lighting and white backlighting..

>>62083972
Coolermaster Masterkeys M.

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DED
E
D

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>>62105163
anon please stop saying that it's making me uncomfortable

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Spilled a whole shit load of beer on my Unicomp last night, I think I had the sense to turn my PC off as fast as I could, but it was still left plugged in and soaked in beer all night. Luckily it spilled under it rather than on it, so hopefully it didn't go through the gaps in the plastic.

If I pour a bottle of 99% isopropyl over it, is that going to improve the chances of it surviving, or will it just make it worse? I'm concerned just because I think buckling springs use grease in them somewhere which IPA would obviously ruin. I'm not super knowledgable on them though.

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>>62105344
Take it completely apart, clean the small parts by hand and wash the large parts in the dishwasher without a heated drying cycle. Then reassemble.

Easy peasy.

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>>62105417
>clean the small parts by hand

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>>62105449
I guess he could put them all in a colander and run it under water for awhile but dried beer is probably going to take some elbow grease.

I clean my caps by hand every few months, with a toothbrush.

>>62105417
tell me those gun model plis

>>62103685
Cherry MX brown or red? Blue isn't available.

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>>62083519
Since i got a memepro 60% there has been only 1 occasion where i needed a num pad for general tasks

I wouldnt take it to work but for personal use its pretty great.

>>62101110
i use iso-de at work and at home. i can't really bother to change layout ...

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Just bought pic related for use in the library and my dorm room.
Didn't want to be that guy with the super loud autistic keyboard in public
How badly did I fuck up?

>>62106265
god tier board my dude

>>62106361
are you memeing or being serious?
It's still in the mail

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>>62106265
that doesn't look like a regular mech

>>62106482
sissor switches are technically mechanical

>>62094527
I'm Italian too and ANSI is way comfier, especially for stressed capital letters

>>62106541
So are rubber domes

What are some good keycaps for a magicforce 108? I can't find a good looking keyset for it.

>>62107033
Miami

>>62107100
Looks like ass, I regret not getting a black keyboard

Anyone can recommend Tenkeyless Iso layout rgb MX blue keyboard? I would like to start with mechanical keyboards.

>>62107253
Ducky One TKL RGB

>>62094090
Was it a mistake not getting full blank caps?

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Bought a Poker II from massdrop, with browns. The one that they shipped me has blacks. Figured I'd use it for a while instead of returning it since I'm sure it would be a hassle to do returns, don't really like the switches vs browns.

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>>62105344
I've spilled at least 20 beers on my WASD, still truckin. I pull the keys and clean the board with rubbing alcohol. A few keys will feel like shit for a week or so but they come back.

>>62083363
I unironically want one of these now.

>>62107253
leupold

>>62096292
>>62096138
Is there a more comprehensive version of these?

>>62105344
How did you manage to spill so much on it without moving the container quickly?

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Shit, I'm late! What did I miss?

>>62102458
That is all dye sub? If so, that's nuts.

>>62106963
If they are then anything is.

Whats the best 75% right now?

>>62093121
t. Guy who has regrets about spending $400 on a 60%

>>62108191
t. Guy who has no mechanical keyboard to post.

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>>62086555
What switches are on that beauty?

>>62107328
>>62107953
Thanks guys