/wt/ - Watch Thread

>>62041407
Holy shit, can you fucking reduce the exposure before posting pictures? My retinas just caught fire.

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first for omega is not a swatch

>>62041407
is that a modded invicta or what?

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>>62041458
4th for post your EDC with watch

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>>62041458
>>62041481
i don't know why i responded to your post

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>>62041458
yes

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how did I do guys?
>>62041407

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>>62041481
On a technicality, this qualifies.

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>>62041540
bait/10

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>>62041540
garbage
>>62041559
it does!

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Seiko 7002-700A and Omega Seamaster lume.

Post lume

>>62041540
Honestly it's a fine watch other than the big "BOSS BY HUGO BOSS FOR HUGO BOSS" on the face. Also I hope you didn't pay over like $75 for the thing.

>>62041565
yeah it is, i've been collecting watches for a few years now and one of my friends texts me and says: "I bought a watch!"

I'm excited to see it, when he showed up it turned out to be a fashion watch shitter quartz from Hugo Boss. He was excited about it and just dropped like $300(LOL) so I didn't say anything but damn....

>>62041582

>>62041590
>$300
>on a fashion quartz shitter
Fuck me dead.

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>>62041590
>$300
Fucking RIP. I guess a sucker really is born every minute.

>>62041570
If you have any interest in bladed things, check out that picture full size. You might find it interesting.

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>>62041600
>>62041607

yeah i was cringing but I didn't want to say anything bad about it LMAO.

What to know the worst part? His father owns a $135,000 PP Tourbillion, actually wanted to KMS

cringe in and of itself but whatever, I have no IRL friends who are into horology or watches

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>>62041603
hnnnnnng

>>62041481
>warranty card in EDC

:'D

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>>62041573
just got dunked on by >>62041603 KOBE STYLE

What happened to Seiko Solar shitposter? Now that he's gone I sort of miss him, TUG shitposter kinda fills the gap, I guess

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>>62041481
Can you honestly explain why you need to carry around a passport, an expired passport, and your watch's warranty card with you everywhere you go? Do you not carry any money around? Are you an expat, is that why you need your passport every day but not a driver's license? But on the other hand, you're probably not casually walking around with a gun if you live anywhere but the US. Is there some sort of logic to it or am I just being baited?

>>62041379
Do you go to /p/?

>>62041770
Be nice anon, his photo isn't bad enough to be from /p/ and he obviously had to leave his basement and make eye contact with humans to take it.

>>62041769
>am I just being baited?
Yes.

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So guys, I would like your help with choosing a watch.
Pretty sure that there won't be any watch ticking all the boxes but here are my preferences:

>600-1400 usd
>automatic
>swiss
>display back with a nice rotor
>could be used
>must not be a dress watch
>must not be diver
>not many complications
>day at 3 o'clock
>chrono is ok
>possibly tactical looking OR gold+white dial
>no vintage
>must last me 40 years

Any ideas ?

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I posted this in the other thread, but I still would really like some criticism. Please, anyone, tell me what's horrible about this watch. MSRP is $220 and I got it for $40 new.

>>62041866
MSRPs are bullshit, but $40 isn't a bad price.

>>62041836
any oris or tudor shitter

>>62041959
yeah, i think so too. im mostly looking for people to point out problems with it so i can know if i'm gonna be judged hard by people who also like watches and to influence my future watch purchases. so what about you? if you had this watch yourself, what would you hate about it? let's exclude the band since that's replaceable

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>tfw you'll never get a watch as brutally practical as this

>>62041986
>tudor

I wish they made more than one model with display back, and it's a bit over the price range.

>oris

It's a valid option but haven't yet saw one that I liked

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>>62042031

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>>62042031
Speak for yourself.

>>62042037
look, either raise your budget or lower your terms.
>40 year lifespan
>swiss meme
>600-1400
>exhibition case back
>mechanical
>not a diver or dress watch
at this point a flieger is the only choice

>>62042071
>7 paragraphs
>practical

>>62042113
I was aware that not all of my terms are going to fulfilled, but how I am looking at certain tag heuers (used zeniths as well) and maurice lacroix watches right now plus there are omegas too. It's a matter of time until I find one that I like.
Is there something about these brands that makes /wt/ ignore them ?

Useful reminder that Ronald Barnard in his previous life was an horology fag, like most in those circles.

>>62042184
>taghuehue
utter dogshit
>zenith
if you have service money
>maurice lacrosse
absolute dogshit
>omega
if you REALLY want to

What these brands all have in common is that they're either overpriced shitters or used to be good but are now overpriced shitters

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>>62042184
> tag heuer
Overpriced for the quality of movement, everyone is bitter they bought heuer and sent their designs into the toilet, huge marketing brand with lots of celebrity tie-in. Some of their high complication stuff is cool though and they did lead somebody from the Stern family I believe to predict the end of high swiss watchmaking when they released a 30k tourbillon.

> zenith
Vintage very good, modern still good, though their modern pieces are large and some have some very poor design decisions.

> maurice lacroix
made up brand with a made up name, kind of the same problems a lot of midrange swiss has - movements that belong in a 400-600 dollar watch being sold for several times that, without any particularly good case finishing to justify it. Like, at least IWC actually has well-finished cases (though I may not care for the style myself); ML has nothing.

>>62041988
stop being so paranoid, your watch is fine and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks!

>>62042265
Seems like you actually know things.
What would you advise for this >>62041836

>>62042324
>doesn't matter what anyone else thinks
ok then ill go buy a nomos or a hugo boss or a daniel wellington or a mvmt or a

>>62041988
Judge what? It's a boring $40 seiko, there's little to think about other than it's not a le minmal shitter.

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>>62042340

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For the anon who's into catalogs
> Post your libraries

Lawyer anon what is the most recent addition to your collection? Do you own any habrings?

>>62042430
those fucks at omega never sent me my catalog.

>>62042430
Post some pics of that Journe book, my dude.

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>>62042935
>three years at a time
So you are part of a PSD for a US ambassador somewhere in Europe? Guessing you mainly just sit at a desk in the embassy 90% of the time.

>>62042746
anon, email me your address with a screenshot of your (You) and next time I'm at Omega I'll ask them if they can send you one

>>62042957
not talking about it any more

>>62042980
derp nycddancer @ gmail

>>62041866
I don't usually like the gold color on a watch unless it's actual gold, but that's just me. It doesn't have sapphire crystal but no one expects that for $40. Also it's quartz, which I don't mind honestly, but that's still a downfall. Last thing I don't like is the lack of lume, but again that's a personal preference.

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>>62042762
>>62043004

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>>62043014

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>>62042957
>>62042982
>>62041769
>>62041481

reposting cause he deleted it LOL

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>>62042762
>>62043027

>>62043027
Is that the running seconds as a rotating subdial? Neat.

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>>62043036

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>>62042982
RIP
>>62043034

I enjoy my Samsung Frontier S3

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>>62042762
>>62043046

>>62043001
thanks. i feel the same about everything you said.

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>>62042762
>>62043060

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>>62042762
>>62043072

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>>62042762
>>62043084
9/17

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>>62042762
>>62043093
10/17

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>>62043097
11/17

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>>62043112
12/17

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>>62042762
>>62043123
13/17

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>>62042762
>>62043127
14/17

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>>62042762
>>62043133
15/17

What's a good watch to buy to make me forget about her?

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>>62042762
>>62043143
16/17

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>>62042762
>>62043152
17/17

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>>62043144

>>62041407
Holy shit, OP, this guy's worse than Buzz Killington...

Can anyone recommend me a watch that won't break my bank (<300) but is stylish? Homages are okay.

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>>62041836
I know you said Swiss, but have you considered the Max Bill? The Chronoscope is just out of you price range new, but the regular auto is about $900.

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>>62043208
for reference my last daily driver was pic related, the alpha homage

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>reviews about a watch are all praise, except for the bracelet, which feels cheap because it's folded links
>watch arrives
>the bracelet is solid links

who /blessed/ here?

>>62043160
>Elegante has a fully lumed dial
Neat. Thanks for the pics m8.

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>>62043208
>>62043219
If you want a diver, then the Seiko SRP775 or SKX007 is the obvious choice; you could even get a orange 3rd party bezel for it if you still want that Planet Ocean look.
Other choice would probably be something like a Parnis or Bagelmeme if you want a """homage""".

>>62043275
Damn that pic related is nice, I'm open to getting a different style

>>62043275
Meant to say the SRP777, but really any of that line would do.

>>62041426
he took the picture that way so nobody would notice his fatass hand

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What would you guys recommend if I wanted a serious, high quality, chinese watch?

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>>62043332
Find someone willing to sell you their celadon imperial.

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>>62043260
> Watch doesn't work
> Sold as is
> From Yahoo JP, no buyer protection
Reseat the battery, 36,000 vph

why are chronographs considered a bit dressier than divers (even if the difference is marginal)?

it seems that because chronos tend to have more complications, it would follow that they would be closer to a tool watch than would a diver

>>62043488
i) Divers often need a bigger case and rotating bezel
ii) Chronos can be placed in stylish non water-proff cases
iii) Dressier watches tend to be more expensive because most of them are made in precious metals
iv) Chronos are more difficult to make thus, more expensive too

>>62043260
what watch?

>>62043610
SSB031. It's the first Seiko I've owned, the first quartz (well, mecaquartz) watch I've owned (barring digital Casios and the like), and my first chronograph. Pretty happy for $120 shipped.

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Rate plz?

>>62043758
costco tier/10

>>62043355
>Taking watch advice from a bin man

>>62043758
It's not bad, but I think it's a little boring. The whole minimalist look works okay on a dress watch or even a field watch, but on a diver it's almost not loud enough. If you want a casual diver on the cheap, I say you would be better off with something a little more adventurous, perhaps an Amphibia or some other slavshit diver.

>>62043296
Hey! It's the same insecure neckbeard from last thread! Still projecting your negativity, huh bud? It's okay, it'll get better for ya.

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Thoughts on this Fortis military watch?

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Is this the best way to buy a Daniel Wellington?

>>62044052
Best way I know of.

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watches you hate yourself for unironically liking

>>62044094
h o w

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>>62044094

>>62044094
>forty five millimeters
Lmao, I'd never be seen in public with a watch that puny
what am I, a lady?

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>>62044104
I l-like rainbow on my watches......

>>62044220
>>>/r/watches

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post your Slav chronographs.
Fucking love mine, well spent 127€.

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>>62044220
>>62044094
There are SOME watches that look cool while having some sort of rainbow dials, like Zenith's El Primero Rainbow.
Can /g/ suggest others?

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>>62044245

To that speedmaster lemania anon, I didnt service the movement of that speedy, the customer somehow broke the movement ring, had to replace that and do some waterproofing. That is one fuckugly movement tho :^)

The 2892 just runs like any other eta, we regulate it between +10 and +6 spd on the machine, which then comes down to about +0/+4 when worn or on the Mill

Everyone in this thread is too poor for Omega or Rolex

Instead of all these shitters just get an SKX and/or a square classic G Shock and save your money for a Speedmaster or Explorer

>>62044776
>skx

it's probably like the fourth best diver at its price point dude
the only good thing about skxes is the modding community

>>62044823
>it's probably like the fourth best diver at its price point dude
Pls share the first three then.

>>62044460
Damn cool. Any other pics? You always post the same one.

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y-you guys like a-armitron?

>>62045702
>what looks to be windows 10
>3.5MB

what're the diameter and thickness cutoffs for wristlets?

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The lady wants an induction stove for the new kitchen, I want gas. She says it's easier to clean and to be fair she does most of the cleaning and cooking but is a worse cook and doesn't know how much better gas is.
Should I overrule her or live with a mediocre binary stove and buy pic related because muh magnetic field? Would be a nice excuse desu. Other suggestions also welcome.

>>62044051
Is it from india?

>>62046526
I had induction before we got gas. Fuck induction it cooks like shit and is slow to heat up. I'd say overrule so hard on that.

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>>62044245

>>62044094
is this the Apple's new iWatch?

>>62047064
Rape me with your fists daddy

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Give me a reason why I shouldn't

>>62047435
Because smart watches are neat for a few months and then fairly annoying after that.

>>62043758
Nice trump hands

>>62046526
Still using gas for me. Induction can't cook for shit.

>>62046526
Overrule her or youll just let the hate simmer every time you use your shitty electric stove.. also get a viking or a vulcan so its easy as shit to clean.

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Should i get a vintage Rolex DJ or a motorcycle for graduation gift?

>>62047900
motorcycle

>>62043360
Don't you just love Y! JP auctions?

>>62043360
how does this work?

>>62044704
>That is one fuckugly movement tho :^)
You're goddamn right it is. It might be the ultimate example of form following function in movement design.

>2892
You got a maximum 4 SPD spread between the two furthest apart positions on it? That's quite good actually. Do you find that 2892s typically have less positional variance than 2824s, or the same? I'd always heard that 2892s tended to have less positional variance than the 2824, and you sound like you've had a decent sample size.

>>62048000
I suppose so - lots of cool stuff up there for good prices. Still trying to find a 4520 in decent shape for a decent price. Reading the autotranslated descriptions is often hilarious.

>>62048048
The cosmotron is an electronic watch. It is a lot like a traditional mechanical watch except for the impulse and the energy storage. There is still a balance wheel with a hairspring, but the impulse jewel is no longer how energy is provided. Instead the impulse jewel only advances the escape fork. There is an electronic etc that is used to push the balance wheel back and forth.

This is a 7803 cosmotron, which is a 36000vph movement with a flyback second and minute hand and a gravity-operated date quickset. Sweep hand has a fantastic write-up.
https://sweep-hand.org/the-x8-cosmotron/

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>>62041407
Which soviet shitter should i buy?
Looking for a dressy look.

>>62048272
>https://sweep-hand.org/the-x8-cosmotron/
thank you

>>62048272
>Still trying to find a 4520 in decent shape for a decent price.
Just in case you aren't already aware, the 45xx can be a bit high maintenance. They have a known tendency to wear more than most Daini movement designs and require relatively frequent servicing. You will need to be prepared that you may one day need to buy donors for parts eventually.

That being said, it is a fantastic movement design.

>>62048322
>They have a known tendency to wear more than most Daini movement designs and require relatively frequent servicing.

> fantastic movement design


wut?

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>>62048322
Yes, I'm afraid I'm aware. But afaik there's no other 36k grammar of design watch.

Btw did you learn anything about that daini 5740?

>>62046526
Induction blows ass, every single day I cook I wish I had a gas connection so I could have a real stove.

>>62048398
The 45xx was designed for accuracy above all else, it is one of only two series produced mechanical movements to ever successfully pass astronomical observatory chronometer testing and the only series produced movement to outright win against all other mechanical entrants at one of the Swiss chronometer trials back in the 1960s.

It is also a hi-beat movement running at 36,000bph, which inherently increases wear rate and shortens service intervals compared to 28,800bph movements.

Basically, while the 45xx isn't perfect, most consider the strengths to far outweigh the weaknesses of the design. It also has a tough bar to live up to as Daini designed some of the most reliable series produced movement designs of the 1960s and 1970s, so just because the 45xx isn't quite as reliable and wear free as most Daini designs, doesn't mean it isn't still very good overall.

>>62041603
>Purple light
What is it? Lume?

>>62048429
>But afaik there's no other 36k grammar of design watch.
If that's what you want, you should be able to get a much better deal on a 45KS than a 45GS.

>Btw did you learn anything about that daini 5740?
Not yet, but I'm going to go ask around today. I'll let you know if I find anything out.

>>62043072
At LAST someone made efficient use of sub dials. Not for ants. Omega should in particular be ashamed.

>>62048513
> 45ks
Is the difference just the level of adjustment? Both 4520 calibers?

>>62048490
UV flashlight. Makes the lume, lume.

>>62048523
Yes, the only difference is level of adjustment, though I would think the officially certified chronometer 45KS models were adjusted to similar standards as the base GS version. VFA models were adjusted to a scarcely believable +/- 2 SPD standard.

Of course, the reality is that the VFA models were essentially hand made watches masquerading as a production watch, as Daini and Suwa would basically get their best watchmakers (aka "Gods of adjustment") to hand cherrypick all the parts to be used in the movement and then spend as much time hand assembling, adjusting and regulating them as necessary to get them to hit +/- 2 SPD in all positions.

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>>62048645
Thanks anon

>>62047900
The datejust - it will get you places

>>62043332
Vintage shanghai/chunlei

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>>62048757
How's the 52KS Special treating you? I fear I've totally ruined your wallet's future prospects at this rate. Incidentally, the 52KS Special had some reasonable approximation of VFA treatment in an attempt to leave a statement for posterity by the Daini employees.

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>>62048846
It's still around +5 on the wrist. I just got my cosmotron so it's been sharing wrist time. I may try to get it regulated at some point but for now am very happy.

I'm not worried about my wallet being impacted by a little Seiko fetish. It's the early/high end quartz obsession that worries me. Still hoping to add a citizen 4mhz, an Omega marine chronomaster, and a longines ultra quartz.

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>>62048281
Vintage Poljot/Sekonda Deluxe.

>>62044052
show us after it arrives

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>>62046906
>>62047736
>>62047805
>>62048473
will do that, thanks lads (pic unrelated)

>>62049136
Ronaldo dresses like that on purpose?

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>>62049159
I guess so? I don't know much about him but he always seems to dress a little...effeminate

>>62049216
The shirt and the pant is too small for him so it's make him look like a girl.

Do any of you faggots actually dive?

I want to buy one that is not the ugly digital watches to go scuba diving

>>62049404
Get a dive watch then, plenty to choose from. Hint: Sea Dweller if you're not poor.

>>62049455
What's even the difference between a sea dweller and a sub?

>>62049468
You can go deeper. I think the hierarchy is:
Submariner
Sea Dweller
Deep Sea

>>62049455
Yeah, I'm not looking into Rolex. It will be more expensive than all of my other gear combined.
Just wanted something that wouldn't look like absolute shit but also not retarded like leather straps on dive watches. Probably would buy a seiko or orient to replace my current cheap fossil but not sure how good they actually are.

>>62049664
go for the Rolex.. other shit is all chink garbage

>>62049737
Go home archie

>>62050069
man come on grow the fuck up.. an orient or skx is not even in the same fucking league as a submariner.Stop giving people shit advice. The Orient and SKX are literally both made in china and are actual chinkshit.

>>62041436
It is as much a Swatch as a Lamborghini is a Volkswagen.

>>62048490
Probably a reflection from the camera's focusing system. My phone camera uses an IR laser for focusing, and the camera can sort of see the reflection of the laser in really low light.

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I wanted to buy this watch,but the seller hasn't listed any reference number and doesn't have contact details for further inquires , maybe you guys can help me figure out?

>>62050584
that is not right

>>62047435
>Charging a watch

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>>62050584
The back of it

>>62050617
Whats wrong with it?

>>62050653
Besides that it's super fake? Fake upon fake.

>>62049664
See if any of the Vostok amphibias catch your eye.

>>62050722
he actually wants to dive.. the bezels are not uni directional and the lume does not function.

>>62043211
That looks bad imo. But the hamilton the other anon posted >>62042414 looks good in black and fits my budget and most of my needs. Thanks for the ideas anyways.

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This watch has been my daily driver for many years now.

Anyome got any advice on how to clean it? I sweat a lot and my wrist fucking stinks after a few hours of wearing this thing.

>>62050584
what the fuck is that even supposed to be? that has got to be the purest chink shit i have ever seen.

>>62050717
Fuck off Ninefag

>>62050584
here you go buddy
http://www.cartier.com/en-us/collections/watches/mens-watches/rotonde-de-cartier.html

>>62050857
Thanks man, that watch is clearly fake..

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>/g/ spends loads of money on watches
>The perfect watch costs only $10

>>62051116
t. muhammad

>>62051116
>>62051187

>live in multicultural capital of the world
>every indian I have ever met who wears a watch wears this watch

I dont get it. Did we donate tons of them to third worlders or something? Is it just because they are cheap but also "stylish"? Indians love their style and have no money after all.

>>62049404
The cheapest options that are actually ISO certified as dive watches are the Seiko SKX and turtle.

>>62049455
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

>>62051455
Why would this advice be bait? No bad advice was given. Sure if he wants diving on a budget he should go with the turtle/srp meme but he never said he has a small budget. Scuba divers often aren't poor.

>>62051396
Lot of Indians are wearing Titan brand now.

>>62041769
D U S T
U
S
T

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is there anything wrong with this particular watch?

>>62051507
>Why would this advice be bait?
Because I quoted the wrong post.

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Is the SNK809 a meme or I just have bad luck?

During the 4 years I've had it, it has been serviced at least 6 times: the rotor broke two times, one time it just randomly stopped charging - don't remember the cause, and now, for the third or fourth time, the dial broke free and is rotating randomly (pic related), just when it started to gain seconds like crazy.

I'm not sure if I want to keep repairing it.

Taken extraordinary care of, worn daily in my boring office job.

Is this normal for all automatic low-end watches?

>>62049664
seiko divers are regularly used by real divers, get the skx

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>>62049737
>..
>>62050193
>..
Oh look, its the double period shitposter.

>>62051947
Sounds like you're a clumsy tard desu.

>>62051885
It probably the #2 owned watch in this general. It has been few disadvantages: bracelet is a bit cheap, no hand winding but most of all it doesn't hack and the bezel can be a bit jiggly.
If you you it, but it. If th intended use is diving go with the turtle instead, if you want to wear it everyday maybe get the Orient Ray II (if it isn't too ugly for you.

>>62052016
Excuse my phone posting btw.

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>>62051947
>servicing a 50€ watch
>6 times

>>62051947
>6 times
I wonder if the cost of service it that many times is bigger than the watch itself. If that were the case I would simply bought another one.

>>62052016
>>62052049
The Orient Ray looks pretty neat, how does it compare against the SKX in terms of quality and horologic value?

>>62051885
Shit bracelet and movement for what you pay are really the only downsides.

>>62052107
I'd say quality is better in every way except the looks and the actual diving ability. They come with hacking handwinding and iirc even sapphire nowadays. The bezel is a bit flatter and not as tall so it slips easier under a sleeve. Other than that they are both good value.

>>62052107
Better bracelet, better finishing, way better movement. You're only missing out on ISO 6425.

>>62052209
>>62052225
man its a really tough decision because I kinda fell in love with the SKX007 but the Ray also looks really good. I just can´t decide.
>Which one of those would you personally get?

>>62052319
I bought a OG mako over the SKX, but it was a lot cheaper. With the new movement though I'd make the same choice at price parity, much less the still somewhat lower price of the mako/ray.

>>62052319
skx is actually iso certified, and has better lume than most anything.

>>62052420
>>62052489
is there any substantial difference between the Mako II and the Ray II besides the small design differences?

>>62052544
Orient has hacking. Frankly, if you just want a watch for casual wear, in my opinion it's the Orient by a mile. The flatter, less-toolish bezel is much easier to fit under cuffs and sleeves, and looks a fair bit more dressy. If you plan to actually dive, then I guess go with the SKX.

>>62052544
No. The only major physical difference is the bracelet finish.

>>62051947
You definitely got a lemon. Seiko 5s don't exactly have the quality control of the higher end models so there's a good chance that overworked Malaysian overlooked yours.

Also;
>Servicing a $55 watch 6 times
You could have bought a SARB with that kind of money dude.

>>62052635
>>62052627
fuck me now everything is messed up because I just cant decide between the SKX and the Mako II

>>62052731
First look at the Mako vs the Ray, I guess. Then once you do that, look at the Orient vs the SKX.

>>62052750
Ive already decided on the mako vs ray issue and for me personally the mako suits me a bit better desu. so now I got to decide between the mako and the SKX

>>62051975
was anything said incorrect? or is the skx and orient not made in china? is the submariner not better than both?

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>>62051975

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>>62053099
>>62053131
(You)

>>62052489
Rolex deep sea is not iso certified which one can go deeper? are you even familiar with testing procedure? are you also aware there is no oversight whatsoever.

>>62053154
good job buddy lets see if you can actually make an argument next time.

>>62053154
Wait some guy wants to buy a Rolex; you recommend a Seiko? Then some other guy says that are not comparable, are cheap, and are made in China. You then call that person a troll? Are all poor people this delusional?

>>62053177
What's with the combative Rolex-retard?

why do i like shitty, sub-$250 microbrand watches so much? am i disturbed?

>>62053273
No? Micros are a great way to get a nice watch for a lot less money than typical. That said, who are you looking at that sell for less than 250? That's really low even for a microbrands.

>>62053270
No just using another example. The fact that Orient chooses not to claim iso certification does not mean it would not function as a dive watch for most divers.

>>62053329
unimatic and that explorer are around that price

>>62053270
Nice nonanswer.

>>62053177
Depth is not relevant unless you are strapping that watch outside a submarine.

Anything above 5 atm (50 meters) is unnecessary for the massive majority of recreational divers as usually just pros like welders actually go deeper.

>>62053372
we all know about dynamic pressure and salt water and the impact force with the water surface and thats why people don't dive with 5 atm watches. What i am saying is you can saturation dive with a watch that is not iso certified.. which means they internally test it to their own standards.. iso certification is not necessary. If orient does this than seiko's iso rating is not relevant or important.

>>62053372
>he thinks the rating on the watch will actually hold up in reality
loving every laugh

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Hey /wt/, I've never taken apart or modded any watch before. How difficult of a process would it be to mod this mecaquartz Seiko to look like the real deal? By which I mean, replacing the hands (especially the red chrono seconds hand) with thin, spear-style Speedmaster lookalikes, and repainting the red accents on the chapter ring white? How much would a watch shop charge for such a service?

>>62053337
>The fact that Orient chooses not to claim iso certification
They don't "claim" it on those models because it's not tested. The original ray and mako aren't even eligible for testing due to lack of lume, which is a requirement of the ISO standard.

That being said, saying that Orient does not use or "claim" the certification is wrong, Orient has made certified dive watches, just search Orient M-Force.

>>62053409
>>62053415
You don't know that the 5 atm already counts that since the usual diver needs a special training to go above 18m and anything above 30m is a technical dive requiring special air mixtures and further training which start to dwell into pro level although not specifically required to be a divemaster.

Shouldn't matter since every shitter now handles 10atm.

>>62053494
i never said they don't use or claim the certification. The orients being discussed all could be dive watches given their bezels and lume as well as their watertight cases. You have no idea what internal testing goes on at orient and many companies such as Rolex have far more rigorous testing than iso requires. They claim a depth rating. How is that tested? is that the only testing they do? do you know for certain?

>>62053270
He's one of the resident /wt/ shitposters now. He's been shitting up these threads for at least three months arguing total bullshit and knowingly lying his ass off in arguments until he gets BTFO'd and then quietly slinks away until next thread where he does it again.

>>62053478
You should be able to just pop the movement out and remove the battery. It's a quartz with some mechanical bits, not a $50,000 movement with all these intricate complications.

>>62053683
oh look its the seiko cuck that thinks half of wt is one person.

>>62053241
No a guy wants to buy a dive watch. Someone recommends a Rolex. He says that's out of his price range and that he is looking at Seiko. The Rolex poster tells him it's Rolex or nothing everything else is chink shit. Someone calls the Rolex poster a troll. The Rolex poster posts some troll Seiko posts. The poster you replied to calls him out on being a troll which is correct btw. Then you try to twist it so he is the troll somehow.

>>62053728
>Yeah, I'm not looking into Rolex. It will be more expensive than all of my other gear combined.
>Just wanted something that wouldn't look like absolute shit but also not retarded like leather straps on dive watches. Probably would buy a seiko or orient to replace my current cheap fossil but not sure how good they actually are.


Where did he say he couldn't afford it?

i like watches

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>>62053743

>>62053743
In the in not looking at Rolex part I suppose I assumed he meant he couldn't afford it which could be wrong. He states that's not what he wants then the Rolex troll keeps pushing the Rolex option.

>>62049024
will do! bought one silver case with white face, and a silver case with black face. if it's good, no one should ever buy a denzel washington.

>>62053752
REEEEEEEEEE GET OUT

>>62053546
This is one of the most idiotic lines of questions ever.

Just because you don't know what sort of testing anyone goes thru doesn't mean everyone else is as ignorant
>You have no idea what internal testing goes on at orient
This is pure projection.

>and many companies such as Rolex have far more rigorous testing than iso requires
This is not relevant to inexpensive Orients. That should be obvious, but I'll explain it to you. The ISO certification is largely based on the standards of manufacture set by Blancpain with the Fifty Fathoms, and Rolex with the Submariner. These companies set 'the standard' before the standard was actually released in the ISO requirements. This is not the same case with the Orient.

Don't get me wrong, yeah, any watch that works underwater could be used as a dive watch, especially if you throw a bezel on it, but you're taking a company that set the standard and comparing it to a company to follows the standard on only some of their models and acting like it's the same thing.

Bottom line, there is a reason the M-Force is ISO certified, and the Mako and Ray are not. That doesn't mean you'll die if you wear one diving, it just means there are reasons they don't certify those watches. And anyone interested in buying them without really thinking about diving then it's even less important.

>>62053710
I'm not really afraid of popping out the movement and everything. I'm more afraid of trying to source some hands that will fit, and how I'm going to paint the red accents on the chapter ring.

>>62053743
>>62053777
I'm the guy who originally asked. I can afford Rolex but I would rather go with something cheaper (does not need to be a cheap watch if they are unreliable shit) and spend the money on another diving trip. If the Rolex is a lifetime buy, assuming I'm not getting mugged and there is no "equivalent" replacement then sure I'll fork out the Rolex shekels. I know it is a tall order to rationalize this decision given the subjectivity or the choice.

>>62053828
We know that Rolex pressure tests every single watch to deeper than their "rating". iirc every watch below 300m is actually tested to their depth + 10%. Their deeper diving watches are to their depth + 25%.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/inside-rolex

>>62053884
Yeah, +25% overpressure for 10 mins sustained is also apart of the ISO certification.

>>62053873
I am the original "rolex troll" A sub is a good buy if you can afford it. Seiko makes some higher end diving watches that are actually excellent. The problem with those is they are massive. The Reissue someone on here has is actually another really great lower cost option.

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well, the indian seiko 5 finally came in! it seems to have an automatic movement because the second hand sweeps. the size is very small, 35mm without the crown, and i can't for the life of me pull the crown into the setting time position. as well as this the bracelet doesn't seem to lock like a traditional seiko, it doesn't have those button clasps. instead it's got this weird rod that i have to push in and out just right to fit. for $20, i don't think this is too bad. it's most likely fake, but it looks pretty convincing and runs.

>>62053873
Oh i forgot also this
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Marathon_GSAR_Dive_Watch_p/ww194026.htm

>>62053873
Seiko have plenty of divers that suit what you want. Take your pick really. Personally if I was an actual diver I would go with an ISO certified or PADI backed models for the peace of mind.
The Rolex is a better watch but the Seiko isn't bad in any way.

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>>62053955
another picture. im thinking of maybe just replacing the band altogether and keep trying to pull out the crown. it's just so god damn small.

>>62053955
>>62053972
It looks okay I guess, and it could have a quartz movement with a sweeping second hand.
That date window and crown is mad sus though and is a dead giveaway; not like anyone is going to call you out on a fake Seiko 5 though.

>>62053955
You mean the bracelet is fake or the whole watch is fake?

>>62053911
Does ISO certification require individual testing?

>>62054004
probably both, but i'm only really having problems with the bracelet. the clasps are fucked or something.
>>62053996
oh, i didn't know quartz could have sweeping hands. i mostly just bought this to see if poo in loo shit was worth it, and i guess i got what i paid for.

>>62054041
No some individual tests but not full iso testing on each watch

>>62053873
Now i think of it if your into watches at all, have the money for one and like the looks and sound of the Rolex I would go with that. If you get a Seiko you will think of it as a tool and probably not wear it much more than when your diving. With the Sub you will wear and enjoy the watch far more. But it is your money and I won't tell you how to spend it, a Seiko is fine but a Rolex is a Rolex.

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>>62054004
>>62053996
unrelated, but do you guys think this is just way too small?

>>62053828
Orient certifying only certain models doesn't mean shit beyond them having different models at different price points. If they admitted their cheaper models are just as good as the "certified" ones, why would anyone buy the more expensive ones? ISO is dumb.

Fuck off.

>>62054137
Not at all

>>62054137
35-37mm was the normal size for watches a few decades ago.

>>62054137
it's ok, but that keyboard...

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>>62054153
>>62054159
ok, i thought everyone likes 40-42mm on everything

>>62054172
nothing wrong with corsair keyboards

>>62054149
>Fuck off.
Literal temper tantrum.

>>62054205
you realize that is not me the person that made the original comment right? You do know everyone fucking hates you right? Its not one person like you keep saying.

>>62054235
>Not everyone is the same person
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person

>>62054149
Why would you trust any model at a cheaper price point that their ISO ones?
Why is ISO stupid?
You do know there is a reason Seiko has their cheaper divers ISO certified right? So you can actually believe them when they say the watches that are better are actually up to or above standard.

>>62054305
god damn right

>>62054350
Duck and cover, you gonna piss off the baby

>>62054149
>doesn't mean shit beyond them having different models at different price points.
Desperate to convince yourself of this, eh?

> ISO is dumb.
lol

>>62054390
that is not me but iso is actually pretty stupid as it doesnt ensure shit on a case by case basis.. Milspec is really far better. The big Swiss companies also have crazy in house testing.

>>62044823
Why is the skx such a good diver watch. post link to one. I'm new here. I have a nice watch at home. will snap a pic and upload later. its a tag huer. so screen cap this.

I want to join this crew.

>>62054125
Bulkiness is one of the main issues. If I wanted a tool I could get the gshock my diving buddy has or the wrist computers designed just for diving.

I guess I'll take a look at other Swiss watches and just get the Rolex if they are shit.

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>>62054159
>>62054153
>>62054172
>>62054004
>>62053996
got the crown out and the day/date says WED now. weird how it transitions from WED to III

>>62054442
>Milspec
Cheap, disposable, replaceable is the design philosophy of the US Military, I haven't looked at their design standards but I wouldn't trust them with my life diving. And what do you mean by a case by case biases? The ISO 6425 diving watch standard is a standard made just for diving watches that's about as case by case as you can get.

>>62054514
It just means it has two languages for the date, english and another one, maybe indu or portuguese.

>>62054390
They only recently updated ISO depth ratings so manufacturers would stop abusing them where ~50m or more wasn't even considered safe for swimming. Oy vey, buy our more expensive "certified" water resistant model instead! ISO is shit.

Nice non-answer, again. Fuck off.

>>62054524
That is actually not at all true you have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously have no engineering or manufacturing expertise at all. Milspec standards are crazy high and every single part has to pass milspec inspection processes all the way down the line. The US military spec for a long life dive watch is actually very stringent. and case by case meaning seiko does not test every single dive watch to full iso standards. That is not required by iso documentation .iso provides no oversight whatsoever.

>>62054577
The tantrum continues

What is the best gshock watch for reliability, survival, camping, end times, kinda watch.

I want it for my end times bag. not for dude bro stuff.

>>62054734
GW-M5610R-1JF

or
GX56BB

>>62054599
Actually I do, not in watches and nothing to do with milspec which is why I said I don't know their standard if you cared to read.
Throw it out and grab a new one is what the US Military has done in the past for years and years. Just look at the ex military watches you can get from them that meet milspec, cheap and nasty made to the lowest Spec to function, hardly water proof, unserviceable or repairable. Just look at the mess of Shit they throw away because it's easier to grow it away than take shit with them. Disposable is the name of their game from past practice this is a fact. Again because it seems you don't read, I don't know milspec which means I don't know their current practices but it doesn't seem like it has changed too much from this philosophy.
You don't need to test every watch to know they are ok with random sampling and probability it really isn't an issue. It's not best practice but it isn't an issue. Sure I would want the Rolex eye to detail finding every flaw but it's not really needed.
From my experience case by case means each use case, different standards for a diver vs a pilots watch ect ect. So that's where confusion came from there.

So I'm a gigantic faggot who wants his generic Seiko V to have a Japanese calendar wheel instead of the regular English one. How much does that cost? Can I just go to my local Seiko dealer and ask him to do that?

>>62054767
thank you!!!

>>62054688
So you got nothing? Cool.

>>62053546
>>62054149
>>62054064
>>62054577
In a shocking turn of events, known shitposter and deliberate liar is caught lying his ass off once again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diving_watch#ISO_6425_standard_for_diving_watches

"The standards for diving watches are regulated by the ISO 6425 international standard. The watches are tested in static or still water under 125% of the rated (water) pressure, thus a watch with a 200 m rating will be water resistant if it is stationary and under 250 m of static water. The testing of the water resistance is fundamentally different from non-dive watches, because every watch has to be fully tested."

http://www.hautetime.com/iso-6245-divers-watch/83717/

"ISO 6425 does require that each watch is tested to 125% of its depth rating prior to being sold, so there is quite a safety margin in this."

http://ticktickticktick.com/buying-guides/how-to-choose-a-dive-watch/

"Water resistance to a minimum of 200 meters depth is generally recommended. In order to meet this depth rating, a dive watch has to meet ISO-6425 specifications, which is a certified international standard for compliant dive watches. Each watch has to withstand a pressure rating that is 25% higher than their stated depth, meaning the dive watch has to pass a lab test simulating 250 meters if it is stated be 200m by the manufacturer."

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>>62041769
that's a damn good camera

>>62054800
There are multiple mil-spec standards jesus christ. There is milspec for a disposable watches and for long service life watches. Marathon sar watches for example are crazy strong well made dive watches that can withstand far more than an skx but also meet iso 6425. Milspec is a huge book of standards from everything including nuts to aircraft carriers. Milspec standard parts are all of the highest quality using the best materials and quality control standards. Just becuase you may not like some shitty disposible army watch that had to meat the lowest tier spec standard does not mean milspec is shit or disposable. Most people don't even have the facilities to produce shit for the military because required testing is so in depth and expensive.

>guy asks a question
>/wt/ starts to argue among itself and shitposting starts
Every time

>>62054828
I think you have to get a Jap version. They have Jap and English I think. The american/rest of world is Spanish and English I think.

>>62054862

i am but one of those people and i can almost guarantee seiko is not testing each watch.

>>62054920
Mine is German and English.
Too bad then!

>>62041769
good taste in cameras, good taste in watches, good taste in wallets.. that phone tho...

>>62054920
There are also some with arabic-english.

>>62054928
Prove it, you knowing and deliberate liar.

>>62054767
What makes these better than say GA700UC, GG1000,

And all the other military suited watches listed here?

https://www.casio.com/products/watches/g-shock

>>62055008
First of all analog G-Shocks are reserved only for homosexuals. Second the ones i linked are solar powered and tough as shit. Third there are 10 thousand g shocks that all do the same thing i justl inked the ones i liked. One is radio controlled and also allows manual time setting and the other is just a great all around tough as nails watch. Both are solar powered for the end of days and they are good choices. Why don't you just offer more suggestions instead of being a prick you resident shitposting fagggot.

>>62054992
you prove it faggot

>>62052776
I think it's fairly easy:
-diving: get the turtle
-everyday use: Mako
-both: skx

That's a good approach I think.

>>62047704
not small my dude, just thin af

my hands

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Broken stuff came in. Many projects ahead

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>>62055172
Better shot of the seiko I'll restore

>>62055065
Not him but the ISO standard implies each watch is individually tested to 125% of their depth rating.
>the standards for diving watches are regulated by the ISO 6425 international standard. The watches are tested in static or still water under 125% of the rated (water) pressure...

>>62055244
>>62055244
>>62055244
>>62055244

stock invicta pro diver has lost less than 2 seconds in 6 days. I have been jumping in pools and shooting with it on. Really impressed with it overall but the bracelet is sort of noisy.