/tpg/: ThinkPad General

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Why the fuck did you stop linking to the previous thread

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>>61996279

>>61996279 >>61996279

>>62013681
kek

>>62013731
because the previous thread didn't link to the previous previous thread

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>>62013681
Don't bully my X230 please.

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>>62013681
was in the last thread asking about upgrades, I just bought a refurbished t400

what did you guys pay for yours (without any upgrades of course)

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>>62013749
weakest stupidest excuse ever retard

>>62013094
pls respond

>>62013767
How much are you willing to pay?

>>62013759
never stop looking at previous thread till its archived kiddo

>>62013789
It's going to be my first and only laptop so I'm pretty flexible with the budget, I'd say max 600 euros, that's a lot for Thinkpads right? If it's less than that I'm going to add an SSD, if it's not included.

>>62013759
$85 seems fair but it better be in good condition

>>62013807
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-ThinkPad-T440s-Multitouch-IPS-FHD-i7-512-SSD-12-Ram-Win10-GARANTIE-/272802983285

>>62013852
Why an "s" model though? Aren't they just slimmer but worse in other aspects?

when you guys replace the hdd with an ssd do you normally switch out the disk drive for the old hdd for dual drives or just let it be?

whats the cheapest thinkpad with oled screen?

>>62013883
msata ssd + ssd + ultrabay 1TB porn storage ftw

>>62013882
can't see what's worse, doesn't run hot and you still get 6-8 hours with that model.

>>62014012
Thanks, it looks good. How's the keyboard and the touchpad? I noticed there are no physical buttons on the touchpad so I might have to change it.

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>>62013889
>oled screen
On a business laptop

>>62014096
you can easily swap it with a 450s touchpad

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>P51 arrives today
>can't wait to LARP as a high powered business workstation user

I'm gonna be using Stata in my coming semester, and I'm looking for a new laptop. Old one is quite literally falling apart after years of use. I've heard good things about Lenovo, so I'm looking a decent Lenovo laptop for Stata.

>>62014256
>high powered business workstation user
use thin clients to servers.

>>62014291
get a W model with a QM cpu

Starting programming at Uni, but the problem is I'm from Finland and all the cheap thinkpads I find have US keyboards. Are there any cheap Nordic ones or am I screwed? Need 8GB RAM and decent enough battery life to survive full days at uni.

>>62014716
there are plenty of cheap refurbs from Sweden where I live, you should find one easily, don't you nordniggers have like a craigslist or something?

>>62014812
Finnish Craigslist is dead, random Finnish sites don't seem to have much. All newer ones and much more expensive.

>>62014833
I didn't mean craigslist as actual craigslist

http://www.kvalitetsdatorer.se/se/art/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-14-hd-led-3g.php

>>62014833

what's your budget? have you checked murobbs?

>>62015206
That one looks a bit expensive once you add RAM and SSD, but will look around on that site.

>>62015246

500-600e at most. Been checking a bunch of Finnish sites but forgot about muro, will check. Some site had a bunch of otherwise decent ones but they all had a 3 hour battery life. I ended up looking at UK ones also since the keyboards are similar enough that I could just swap the language in OS settings and try to memorize the special stuff.

>>62013681
Why would you need an extra 3.3V power supply when you already have a Pi? A small flash chip draws fuck all, the Pi's 3.3V regulator should be able to handle it.

>>62015310
>swap the language in OS settings and try to memorize the special stuff.
just a regular cheap thinkpad and a new keyboard if thats such a big deal

>>62014306
>TFW using an ultra thin client as server

>>62013852
>s
but he said good cpu, not soldered ulv shit

>>62015310
>500-600e at most

In that case you could afford something from vstore.fi and get a one year warranty as well. Of course they're pretty expensive to be second hand but there's much less to worry about.

>>62014716
Just buy a replacement keyboard. I have like 4 US keyboards laying around because i have to change them every time.

>>62015398
>I'm gonna shit on your recommendation instead of recommending something that I think it's better
every time

>>62013681
>HD 3000
>drops frames when doing 1080 60

>>62015489
change the s for a p, done

>>62015403
Never even heard of such a site, looks pretty decent. Gonna look at these.

>>62015356
>>62015430

I could try this too, if it's not too complicated to change them. I found a cheap X1 Carbon on ebay with a UK keyboard. Just not sure which gen it is so no idea which keyboard replacement it needs.

>>62013767
T440p with touchpad swap and and quad core and whatever ips it supports if you want a good screen
T430 with classic keyboard and quad core if you care more about the keyboard
>>62013852
Get out of here nigger

>>62013681
whats everyones opinion on the $900 i5 x270

>>62013759
I paid less for a T420 on ebay. Under $80 dollars.

>>62015659
Why would you willingly purchase a thinkpad with an inferior keyboard? I thought the whole point was the keyboard.

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>>62015382
>MFW i'm really using an Hp thn client as a server

>>62015714
17 hour battery life

>>62015714
nothin inferior about it

T440 or X240? Both about the same price.

>>62015894
t440p

>>62015398
I bought link related:

https://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/computer-und-netzwerk/notebooks-und-zubehoer/intel/core/core-i7/lenovo-thinkpad-t440s-i7-8gb-240gb-ssd/v/an932763932/?utm_source=42_de&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=rtm_core&utm_content=body_img

Surely can't be that bad for the price, right?
I fell for so many /g/ memes I don't want to run into buyer's remorse again....

>>62015894
they have quite a few differences, it depends what you want

>>62015903
eh if you don't need a better processor sure

I would prefer having the p version with socketed replaceable cpu and quad core options, optical drive slot for a second or third drive and that sweet 9-cell battery.

>>62015909
University. X240 looks lighter and has a better battery life, not sure what other differences there are.

How much better is the T400s compared to T400? Price difference is pretty big.

>>62015958
I needed a decent linux laptop with something better than a 720p screen for my bachelor's thesis (some code monkey Java EE shit). CPU power was secondary, I have a 13" MBP (non retina) with a 2.9GHz Core i7 with plenty of cpu power but a shitty, useless 720p screen.

What weirds me out a bit is the fact that I sold my 2012 11" MacBook Air (Core i5 1.7 GHz, 4GB memory, 64 GB of SSD storage and a 720p display) for 500 fucking mountain shekels whilst only paying 360 for that thinkpad...really makes you think.

>>62016396
it's worse

>tfw got an X230 for $75
>seller listed a bunch of issues
>most weren't nearly as bad as he said they were
>laptop is in near perfect condition
^_^

>>62015986
Just size and battery life. I can't remember if the T440 has a CD drive.

Hey CIA niggers, I need to get a laptop for my studies. Would you recommend a Thinkpad Ultrabook T440? There's a company selling used business laptops and they got it on sale for 520€. 8GB of DDR3 RAM and a 128GB SSD (probably swapping it for a bigger HDD).

>>62016881
no
>128GB SSD (probably swapping it for a bigger HDD)
why the hell would you do that retard

>>62016881
>520€
look my post
>>62015903
Even in Mountainisrael you will pay less than 520 euro...520 euro for a T440 seems way overpriced.

>>62016977
128GB feels pretty darn small. The studies include a ton of media shit in the future too.
>>62016985
I can't really find it cheaper domestically.

x220 owner here
Laptop is smol, cute and does the job really well. Can compile stuff pretty fast

requirements:
>6hr+ battery life
>temps under 50C-55C
>weight ~2kg
>emulate ps1/2, play classic pc games
>stream content (720p)

unimportant:
>build and durability
>*nix support (it will run bsd/win10)
>keyboard, track-pad, track-point
>screen
>ports and connections
>upgradeability (i will disassemble it once completely, clean it, upgrade it and leave it alone for a decade)

if you have something to recommend please state what you own and how long you have used it for. the laptop i will purchase will replace a 10 year old Toshiba (15.4", Core2 Duo, GM965 chipset) which is not worth upgrading due to weight and insufficient return on performance.

>>62017009
then get a bigger ssd or external hard drive or something, or just get a thinkpad that can hold two 2.5" drives (t440 is not one of them)

but downgrading from an ssd to an hdd is the worst thing you could do and you will immediately realize your mistake after you reinstall whatever OS you would have put on the HDD

>>62017080
I've never had an SSD in my life anon. While I agree that SSD is faster, I dunno if it would bother me to have an HDD. Prioritizing disk space over speed.

>>62017097
>I've never had an SSD in my life anon.

that explains why you would make such a dumb decision

>>62016881
>t440
either go t440p or x240, the rest are slimmer abominations between them that don't do anything better than these two

>>62017009
Where do you live?

>>62017114
Finland. Just noticed those posts by the other Finnish dude, so I'm kinda in the same boat with that guy. Also found this other store called teraset.net which seems to be carrying used business laptops for fairly good prices.

>>62017068
>list everything except price
fucking retard

>>62013681
my x230
> coreboot
> x220 keyboard
> 8gb ram
> 512gb SSD
> ips display
> 2 9-cell batteries
> usb 3
> gentoo gnu/linux

sounds like someone is just jealous, desu

>>62017162
>hey look I spent all this time and money to turn a x230 into a x220, you're jealous right? right?
lmao

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>E450 "gaming laptop" for sale $250
>i3-4005U Dual Core Processor @ 1.7 Ghz base (Overclockable to 2.2 Ghz)
>Intel® HD graphics 4400
>500 Gb storage
>4Gb ram
>gaming laptop

my sister's laptop died, a fresh new t470 is in the mail, and out of the ashes of her old machine i have scrounged
-6gbs of ddr3l (one 2gb dimm, one 4gb dimm)
-32gb m.2 ssd
-750gb HDD
and some intel network adapter. i know i can use the 4gb dimm and the 750gb drive, but is the rest useful for my t420 (arriving in about a week)

>>62017232
you can get a M.2 to 2.5" adapter

>>62017232
not really, the t420 has an msata slot but doesn't have an m.2 slot

>>62017193
i got all the upgrades for free as a gift and it took me about 1 day to get it all working :^)
plus x230 has better igpu and cpu so i get the best of both worlds

stay angery

thinkpads masterrace

>>62017265
>i got all the upgrades for free as a gift
sure you did

>>62017248
i did my homework on m.2 adapters and it looks like i can get an m.2 to msata adapter for like 10 bucks but it ships from chinkland so i'd get it in like 20 days

Using the trackpoint makes my finger sore after a while and it starts to hurt. My feminine hands can't handle something so masculine. I think I need to switch to a Mac instead.

>>62017276
was a hand me down from a friend
i only paid 150 for laptop refurb

>>62017283
indeed you can but the m.2 ssd needs to be smaller than the msata adapter so size 2248 or smaller, otherwise it won't fit.

or just do this >>62017245, the t420 can use 3 drives anyway

>>62017299
>was a hand me down from a friend
sure it was

>>62017307
it's like half the length of most m.2 ssds i've seen, is that enough? this stuff is all coming from a haswell toshiba satellite, so it might even just BE msata, idk if haswell mobile supported m.2

>>62013681
I have both an x230 and x220 but I personally prefer my x230 since intel hd 4000 and desu the chicklet keyboard hate is a meme its not bad at all and it feels really nice imo

Why would you want to unlock bios?
>>62017162
> making an x230 an x220
thats like making a rolex into a casio

>>62017348
measure it, if it's 22mm x 42mm it should be alright

and yes haswell does, the t440p uses an m.2 ssd

>>62013681

First for Fujitsu Lifebook, got a p702 from 2011, still a workhorse and can manage simpler games on lower settings. Comfy as can be.

>>62017352
A) this dummy doesn't even use airport bombing watches, everyone please ridicule him now
B) this isn't equivalent at all, as the x230's keyboard is, or so i've been told, not as good as the x220's

>>62015700
That's a very unusual price, unless it was in particularly poor condition

>>62017352
>Why would you want to unlock bios?

use 3rd party battery
use dual band AC card
disable Turbo Boost so I instantly get -10 C during cpu loads
switch alpm mode from slumber to partial if you got a ssd
disable intel ME features
modify active trip points for the fan
disable event log
set ram to 1866mhz

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My X201T shipped today, I'm getting hype. First Thinkpad

How much would you pay for a t430 with Nvidia dGPU (NVS 5400M>? I found one (model 2349-G4G) with 4gb ram, 320gb hdd, i5 3320M, the standardintel HD 4000 iGPU and a somewhat bad battery that lasts 2 hours for €260.
Is it too much? I can buy another one that's basically the same without the Nvidia GPU for €160.

>>62017515
the nvs is a meme why would you game on a thinkpad, the 4400 is decent enough for old games

>>62017537
*HD4000

>>62017513
Why the tablet version? I really regret getting the X220t, screen is nice but it feels really flimsy compared to the normal one and the touch input isn't what I would consider useful

>>62017113
Is T440 that bad? I heard x240 has some end/insert button weirdness and I'll need those.

>>62017138
Did you buy the T440? Noticed it's gone from the site I was looking at. Other Finn here.

>>62017597
It's not "bad" but it has nothing spectacular, it's like a bigger ultrabook. If you want performance and being upgradable then the t440p is better and if you want mobility the X is better.

>>62017616
Nah. I don't have that kinda money available right now, I just gotta cry to my parents for good boy points.

>>62017635
Can't find a t440p. Only options are x240, t440 and t440s for way more than the other two. Just not sure how big the insert/end thing is with x240 since I'll be programming.

>>62017515
I'd pick the iGPU one unless you really needed the nvidia card for some reason.

>>62017560
I was looking for something that I could take hand-written notes on, so the stylus with active digitization was a major selling point for me. From what I've read, the X201 tablet is supposed to be pretty sturdy

>>62017636
It's a small world then, with someone buying it just now. Hope the crying works for you. I'll be eating noodles for a month but studies demand it.

>>62017668
Unless you need to draw notes then I doubt you'll be using anything but the keyboard anyway.. But hey, I bet you'll be happy, if not just sell it for a few bucks more and get something else, it's not like they're really dropping in value atm. Welcome!

>>62017664
>>62017537
Ok, thank you. Also is the €160 a good price? Should I look for something cheaper?

>>62017717
I'm in graduate school for physics, typing equations / doing scratchwork isn't really feasible, and I was kind of tired of having stacks and stacks of old notebooks under my bed. And thanks!

>>62017662
Then choose between the x240 and t440 if you have to. Make sure that the t440 is the ips fullhd screen version one though.

Im looking to buy my first thinkpad and I found this
Thinkpad T510 i5 4gb RAM 500GB storage and has office 2016
For 225
Its really fucking far away but It seems like a good deal. What do you guys think?

>>62017844
bad deal

>>62017844
expensive

What's a good bag for trasporting a laptop? I want something sturdy, between 10 and 50 dollars

>>62017068
>Win10
lmao

>>62017853
>>62017860
Ok but is it a good computer? Price isnt really an issue but my only other option would be this:
X220 i5 2.6ghz 8GB RAM, SSD
For $160

>>62017930
That x220 sounds good and you can upgrade the screen to an IPS one.

>>62017796
I think the only option on this site is the worse screen one.

>>62017873
Most backpacks have laptop compartments..

are dell inspirons good build quality

>>62018049
Can't you read boy?
This thread is for Latitude/Precision

We don't take kindly to Inspirons around here.

>>62017930
that X220 is a better deal and has better specs and performance

300€ is good for one T420 or too expansive ?

ok lads my first laptop ever is going to be a T520 with the 1600x900 screen for $150. going to pick it up today, anything I should check other than bios password and computrace?

>>62018188
physical damage of course

>t520
ayy i hope you'll go the full meme route in the future by upgrading to a 1080p screen, 16gb ram, 3 drives, etc

>>62017193
>>62017352
>recessed trackpoint
nope.avi

>>62018097
Ye someone just told me 225 usd was too expensive for a t510 so ye

What ThinkPads do you have, what OS do you have installed in them, and what are they for?

>>62018206
I don't think I'll have the money to go full meme. I'll be living on $750/month with 600 of that going to rent once college starts on the 28th.

How big of a deal is it to have the wrong type of keyboard if the layout is compatible? Will I be fine with switching language settings? All buttons are in the same places, just different.

>>62017903
? it's the optimal windows for laptop battery life.

>>62018251
>T420 with macOS for uni and carrying outside
>T440p dualbooting Win7/Debian as main "desktop" with the docking station and external monitors
Thinking about replacing the t420 for an x220 or x230 but can't find a cheap one over here yet.

X240 with i5-4300u is about 500€ at vstore.fi
Good deal or no?

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>>62013681
>Unauthorized network card is plugged in - Power off and remove the network card

Is this fucking real????

Never ever buying lenovo, fuck

>>62017742
>Also is the €160 a good price?
idk man, make it at least 8gb ram

Thoughts on t440s? Slightly worse processor than t440 (i5-4300u vs i5-4200u) but better display.

>>62018097
I'd pay 300 for a T420 with 16G ram and a 240GB ssd, mint keyboard, and 1600x900 display.

If I were to buy a T420, which I hopefully will, is the difference between the i5 / i7 even worth it? The price differences seem extortionate to me.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2740p HP EliteBook. Does anyone own it? Will it crash and burn?

>>62018442
No thats 8.1 aka the better Win10 without all the horse shit telemetry and 25+ services running in the background consuming 0.2%cpu each

>>62018686
no, in fact you could buy an i3 one and upgrade the processor yourself since it's socketed and sandy bridge laptop processors are cheap on ebay

hell you can upgrade to a quad core processor if you want

>>62018686
there's not much difference between dual-core i5 and dual-core i7

dual-core i5 and quad-core i7 there is a big difference

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is my latitude e6540 allowed?

>>62018703
elitebook or not, i wouldn't trust hp with all those moving parts

t. 2570p owner

How's the screen on X240?

>>62018713
>>62018719
Cheers, this was really helpful anons, I'm on a pretty severe budget at the moment and I'm just checking I don't fuck up and make an awful decision.

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>>62018849
what the fuck why post the full model name like that you autist just say "does my dell count"
and no

Im thinking about getting a Lenovo flex 5 for college
I'm an engineering student, probably going to using this mostly for taking notes, using Autodesk programs, etc
Is there anything better out there?

>>62018932
yeah a thinkpad

>>62017150
lowest price possible obv, im cheap.

>>62019022
Are there 2 in 1 thinkpads?
Ones that can be used as a tablet and laptop?

>>62018865
W-why, what's wrong with your 2570p?

>>62019096
Yeah.
X200T, X201T, X220T, X230T, X60T, X61T
All the same as the X series, only with digitizers.

>>62019096
the 2 in 1 thing/tablet convertibles are not that useful

>>62019246
how so? I imagine being able to use your laptop as a notepad and a thinkpad would be useful

>>62019422
because they are very thick and heavy compared to normal tablets and pen and paper is superior

Why is the T440p acceptable?

>>62019450
why not?

>>62019430
ic. The flex 5 is 3.74 pounds, which doesnt seem like much desu

>>62019450
I meant t440s

Genuine question. It's getting shit on less than other nu-thinkpads

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>>62015767
>TFW i'm unironically using an HP ultra thin client as a server, pic related

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>>62018917
What point does this prove

is libreboot worth it on the x200 ive read that on some microcode revisions ram fucks up. should i just flash the white list hack

I just got a nearly new thinkpad t460 for 300 bucks did I do good /g/

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>>62013681
So the charger that came with the X200 I purchased died... I ordered a X220 90W charger for it, and it's working great again! I don't have to borrow my girlfriend's anymore, thank goodness.

Is £70 a reasonable price for an x200.

>>62019794
Looks beautiful, did you libreboot it yourself?

>>62019794
You don't have a girlfriend.

>>62019796
A little high, but not too bad. Is it the lowest-end processor? If you're paying more, try for one with a P8700 or P8800! They're harder to find, but worth it if you can get 'em!

>>62019817
Yep! it was a fun project! I might go and buy more hardware and resell them for people, it's not a hard process once you do it the first time.

>>62019850
The listing says 2.4gHz so that should be the P8600 right?

My never before used (still original packaging) t420 arrives tomorrow.
I am hype, I don't know what I'm expecting but I always wanted a laptop, and finding this thing was a blessing.
Anything I should know?

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>>62019846
Sure thing buddy.

>>62019891
Correct. That's the most plentiful of them. I hear it's harder to find good deals on hardware outside of the US, though. I'm uncertain if that7s an amazing deal in your part of the world. It's a little high here.

>>62019931
If you plan to run Linoox on it, you'll need to install a modified BIOS image to use a FOSS-compatible driver. Otherwise, everything should just werk for you.

>have tf470s at work
>latest and most expensive edition
>choppy whilst watching high-def youtube
t-thanks Lenovo.

>>62019935
Thanks man, you've been a great help.

>>62019935
>>62019958
prove it awoo-chan, tell her to show feet

>>62019958
I plan to run gentoo on it, as I do on every other machine I have.
The wiki doesn't mention anything specific, I also do not mind proprietary driver blobs at all.

Is the CPU soldered on the x200 or can you switch it out?

>>62019976
No problem!

>>62019979
That's not my fetish.

>>62020041
Well if you're OK with running non-free software, then you'll just be using the Intel wireless driver. Everything else will just werk.

>>62020048
it's soldered to the board, unfortunately. Saves some headroom I guess.

Hey! It's my first post here. Nice to meet you guys :-)
Just dropped in to say, that recently I've bought mysel a t430 and I'm very happy with it. :-)

>>62018251
>X230
>CloverOS
My portable laptop, web browsing and light graphic design work.
>T420
>CloverOS
My autism laptop, anime stickers, hard drive of anime/hentai/eroge.
>X220
>MacOS Sierra
Stuck an apple sticker on it for memes.
>T60
>OpenSolaris
Comfy 4:3 programming on the go.

any reason to use libreboot over the stock bios on an x200. im reading some microcode shit and i don't know if my ram will work.

>>62020109
Have fun with it, new friend!

:^)

>>62020166
Maybe you won't spend as much time to load the bootloader as you would with stock bios. I have no idea about it.

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>tfw
Where can I get a replacement battery for this thing? I think the one it came with is fucked.

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>>62020243
>finally boots
>this is the desktop background
kek

>>62020166
The main reason is of course, having a FOSS bootloader on your machine, free of potential software backdoors. And then there's of course faster boot times. Otherwise, if you don7t care about your privacy and personal freedoms, don't bother.

Most RAM modules should work fine as long as they match. I'm using RAM manufactured in 2016 on a laptop manufactured in 2008, and it works fine.

>>62020243
>>62020271
It might be hard to find OEM batteries for that thing, your best bet is chink shit. Now it's time to libreboot it!

>>62020323
It's ATI, I can't Libreboot it. What chinkshit battery should I get?

How are the screens on these things if you don't get FHD IPS?

Okay so i could buy an x220 or a t410
I already listed the specs for the x220 (im the same anon) but the t410 is like this
Intel i5
4gb ram
320 gb SATA hard drive
125 USD
This is the final choice. What do you guys think?

>>62020421
It can be librebooted, you just can't use the GPU. Chink batteries are all the same, you'll maybe get 2-3 hours out of them.

>>62020449
Not him, but it isn't much of a laptop without a display is it?

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>>62015337
Yes, the pi provided enough power for flashing the chip on my x220. I only needed the small amount of power that the USB to serial adapter connected to my x200 provided.

I compiled coreboot for my x220 with seabios, and I used ME_Cleaner to bring the management engine down from 1.4MB to 90KB, which should remove all of the functionality from Intel's backdoor. Coreboot is much faster than the stock BIOS too. Less than 20 seconds after pressing the power button, I'm at the desktop.

>>62020448
If you're going to get an i-series Thinkpad, XX20 Thinkpads are where it's at performance-wise. T410 doesn't have a lot going for it besides being a T400 with a slightly better processor.

(Get the X220)

>>62020486
Not even sure if this is bait?

>>62020486
The integrated graphics are still usable.

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>>62020495
Also, I now have tetris on my BIOS chip.

someone please sell me an x61

this shithole of a country has fucking nothing reeee

>>62020495
90KB's sure is a lot of room for mischievous code... ;v)

Nice job, though! I remember when looking for help on flashing my X200 I was harassed against using the on-board 3.3v provider. I had some common read issues, but it worked out just fine.

>>62020449
>2-3 hours
So my dream of comfy portable 4:3 programming is dead?

>>62020567
which country?

>>62017162
Is the x220 keyboard on the x230 just plug and play with coreboot?

>>62020599
Unless you can find an OEM one, it's very unlikely you'll get very good performance out of a chink one. They just don't use very good cells. ;(

>>62020602
No, most of the special keys on thinkpads are controlled by the EC.

>>62020601
Chile.

>>62020503
I was serious actually.
>>62020510
Huh, I thought somehow that Intel graphics would be unavailable if ATI/NV was onboard. The laptop essentially becomes Intel video version if librebooted?

>>62020081
well, awoo-chan, it is mine. mind sharing some pics with your ThinkPad next to them? please please please

if I flashed coreboot onto a T420 and only used linux, are there any USB 3.0 expresscards that would work? anyone help? price difference here between T430 and T420 is over 100€ and I don't wanna waste money if I can just install an Ivy Bridge CPU on a T420 after coreboot. and I can't stand the chiclet keyboard, modding it to fit a classic one is unconventional to me

>>62020676
Just look for expresscard 34 cards with usb 3.0 ports. They shouldn't even stick out of your laptop.

I've never tried one myself, and I don't know if I even care enough to bother getting one.

>>62020676
Not him but my usb3.0 expresscard worked with macOS on a T420 so i guess it could work with Linux.

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>>62020593
Yeah, ME_Cleaner just leaves the parts that the CPU looks for. The CPU is designed to shut itself off after 30 minutes if it does not find the Management Engine.

I installed an IPS screen, an msata SSD, and a brand new keyboard from a t510 I had lying around. I am thinking about soldering pepe to my motherboard to upgrade to 1080p, but 1366x768 isn't that bad.

https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=122640

I installed Windows 7 on a partition, just for testing things, and the Management Engine shows up as a broken device in device manager, which is interesting.

>>62020676
I used a USB 3 expresscard with my libre x200. It worked, and the speeds were better than USB 2, but it did get a bit warm, and it probably lowered my battery life a bit.

>>62020745
so it works even under libreboot? interesting, I thought you couldnt install the drivers. which one are you using? one that needs external charging? you know of any ones that don't need that, even if it's limited to just a single port? sorry for all these questions.
>>62020737
>>62020711
thanks, gonna look around a little more until I find what I want.

>>62020676
>>62020797
She's at work at the moment, I'll ask later.

Any extra hardware you plug into your Thinkpad while using Coreboot/Libreboot won't stop it from working. However, hardware requiring non-free software is frowned upon (At least by the Libreboot project).

>>62020797
This is the one I had:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111822206257
It looks like it has bad reviews, because it does not provide enough power for some hard drives. I never had that issue, the ports are pretty cheaply made, but they work. If I were getting one now I would probably get one with external power, because then you could plug that power in if you needed to use a device that required more current.

And Libreboot does not affect the devices that you can use, expresscard is basically a PCIe lane. Libreboot does remove the wifi whitelists and other arbitrary restrictions though.

>>62013681
Recently after visiting a different place (i think it might have had electricity issues) my battery is not displaying properly. When i look at acpi it shows as "Unknown" and the battery won't charge. After messing around for a bit it'll suddenly work again.

thinkpad x220 running debian with kernel 4.12.0-1. happened on 4.11 too.

>>62020877
don't worry I was just joking, I wouldn't want you to get into such a weird position, asking her about something this stupid. but that's interesting. I really didnt know that, thanks awoo-chan and (You) >>62020888 Anon-kun.

>>62020901
bump

Thoughts on w550s? Looking for something with a bit more meat to replace my beloved x230.

Looking for a 14/15 inch laptop with battery life, enough graphics performance to do engie stuffs and an IPS, non-bunk screen. Got a budget of $1000, but cheaper units are definitely considered. Battery life is top priority.

>>62020901
Cleaned out the charger port. Worked.

Where can I get wireless drivers for Linux? I don't have Ethernet at the moment.

X230 is the mail, with a i7 and IPS screen. I also ordered a x220 keyboard and palmrest. Is it worth flashing coreboot?

>>62021129
W520 is my personal workstation beast. It can cool everything, it has NVIDIA Optimus Graphics with 1GB or 2GB VRAM, it can hold a FHD IPS screen, it can hold up to 32GB of RAM on the Quad-Core models, it has USB 3.0, the CPU can even be upgraded to Ivy Bridge if you wanted to (but you'd need a custom bios). You could get it for $400, get a screen for $50, a new genuine battery for $70 and a bunch of RAM or a better CPU. Used SODIMM DDR3 1600mhz RAM (only works on custom bios too iirc, there is no reason to use the original Lenovo ome) is really cheap.
>>62021306
yes
>>62021257
search for them on your favorite search engine

What laptop should I get?
Need something 10in-12in.
Cheap, light, and then.
Don't really care much for the specs, but I'd like an SSD and an HDMI port

>>62014256
did you get it from the outlet?

>>62021306
With coreboot you can remove the Intel ME, and you can remove the battery, PSU, and wifi whitelists. You also get better boot times. If you want to you can just have a GrUB payload, so the system will go straight to GrUB, which is even faster. I compiled it with seabios so that I can still boot to MBR devices like my flashdrive easily.

I think that you will need to flash the modified lenovo BIOS that gets the x220 keyboard working first, and then install coreboot.

>>62021609
you won't get an hdmi port but you'll get displayport

>>62021760
So install new keyboard -> flash EC -> flash coreboot?

I bought https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13153, which was recommended by some guide i found. Will it work?

>>62019589
>eBay filename
You aren't fooling anyone.

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>>62013681

Anybody know if i can get some sort of Libre/Coreboot on my Elitebook 2730p?

>buy X230 in shit condition
>came in excellent condition
Upgraded it with:
>new rubber feet (one was missing)
>9-cell battery
>250GB 850 EVO
>X220 keyboard
How'd I do?

>>62021869

I got an x220 with an i7, so I haven't done the keyboard mod, but that is what I have heard.

The pomona clips are good. I got a 16 pin pomona clip for my x200, but for my x220 I got a cheap $2 clip which worked just as well.

Here is a guide that was helpful:
https://karlcordes.com/coreboot-x220/

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>>62013681

I'm looking to replace my x220t, with something more modern. Any recommendations?

>>62021937
the pomona clips are really expensive, with shipment it's like 45$. But i guess it's worth it.

Is there any good wifi cards with ac I can order?

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Any eGPU users here? Will the EXP GDC work okay on x230? Not expecting miracle performance, just want to hook up a maybe a decent low profile GPU to play newer games occasionally.

What quad-core CPUs can an X230 take?

>>62018849
>scotch dispenser
best thing in that photo my dude

>>62022039
you would have to find a quad-core motherboard since the cpu's are soldered
(there are none)

>>62022039
none, x230 cpu is soldered

>>62021937
>>62022017
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/J34-Free-Shipping-New-Programmer-Testing-Clip-SOP-SOIC-8-SOIC8-DIP8-DIP-8-SOP8-Pin/32581027732.html

this should work right? If i can save like $40, i would be nice.

>>62020449
>>62020486
>>62020503
>>62020510
Am I misunderstanding something here?
From the libreboot website:
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/#thinkpad-t60-ati-gpu-and-thinkpad-t60-intel-gpu-differences.
"Theoretically, the ThinkPad T60 with ATI GPU can work with libreboot and have ROM images compiled for it, however in practise it would not be usable as a laptop because there would be no visual display at all. That being said, such a configuration is acceptable for use in a ‘headless’ server setup (with serial and/or ssh console as the display)."

>>62022121
>2570p has a second drive bay, x230 doesnt
>2570p has socketted CPU, x230 doesn't
Why Lenovo, why

>>62022017
I have an intel wireless AC card that I had from something else installed, and it works very well. I don't think that there are any AC cards yet that you can use with no nonfree drivers.

>>62022132
Yes, that is similar to mine. It works just as well as the pomona clip. I think the pins are a bit closer together on that though, so it is a bit trickier getting the wires attached. I used a clip like that for flashing one of my other thinkpads, and I ended up just soldering the ends of the wires onto the clip.

It worked, but after that I got one with the wires attached to it already off of ebay for ~$2-3, since it was so cheap.

>>62022169
>2570p is thicker and heavier

>>62022140
In the case of other Libreboot-compatible Thinkpads with dedicated graphics, using just the iGPU is possible and the only way to use the device. Perhaps the X60 doesn't include integrated graphics? I would consult #libreboot on freenode.

>>62022169
all it fuckin needed to be King Hugecock of Dork Mountain was a goddamned ips option

why you gotta do us dirty, hp

>>62022206
i not really wanna soiler :3 so i guess ill just get one with wires attached: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-SOIC8-SOP8-Test-Clip-For-EEPROM-93CXX-25CXX-24CXX-in-circuit-programming-on-USB/32658616197.html

I also found a few intel AC wireless cards (cheapish) i could use. I not mind nonfree drivers (ofc free would be nice).

Thanks for the help, saved me alot of money.

>>62022284
No custom screen mod for it?

>>62022273
>Perhaps the X60 doesn't include integrated graphics?
Isn't that the norm? Or are you talking about those newfangled laptops with switchable graphics? Wait, are those the norm now?

>>62022373
Most newer hardware includes the iGPU and dGPU, it's up to you if you want to switch between them. I'm sorry for giving false information, but if the Libreboot documentation says it can't be done, then it can't be done.

>>62022294
Yeah, that is the same clip that I used. You will still need female to female wires to connect that to the pi(or other flasher), as you can see here: (>>62020495)

Happy Hacking

>>62021802
Recommendations?

>>62013681
Just letting the inventor of this thread know that I'm in contact with the admins of this website and they agree that bullying is UNACCEPTABLE and are looking into this thread.

>>62022453
>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

>xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

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Rate my family, x201s arriving shortly
Clockwise: t420s, z61p, w500, x230t

>>62022446
i think i have enough f2f jumper cables laying around for my IoT/ESP8266 projects. I ordered a few more, just to be sure.

Can't wait for getting my hands on the x230, i have a x201 (i5). But the coil noise is pretty bad, so i think it's starting to fail.

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Hi, I was thinking of replacing my old shit piece of a laptop with a used Thinkpad.

My old laptop is a Sony Vaio VPCEB4M1E and I'd like to buy the Lenovo ThinkPad T520.

The Vaio has the following specs:

>- Core i3 380M, 2.53 GHz
>- 4 GB DDR3 SDRAM - 1066 MHz - PC3-8500
>- 500 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 5400 rpm
>- 15.5" TFT 1366 x 768 ( WXGA )
>- ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 w/ 512 MB

The TP T520 (source - some from ebay/some from vendor):

>- Core i5 2520M, 2.4 GHz
>- 4 GB DDR3 SDRAM
>- 500 GB HDD
>- 15.6" Display - 1366 x 768 pixels
>- Intel HD Graphics 3000

Any piece of advice is very much appreciated.

Thinking about getting an x120e.
Can I do some light programming on it or should I go for the X220

>>62022688
I can feel that glossy plastic just from looking at it.

>>62022035
I'm not even going to link articles, just Google, "x230 egpu". There's a very high sucess rate
Just make sure to play it on an external monitor for better performance

>>62020634
fug
not that guy but shipping to Chile is so damn expensive. I know, I used to live there.

>>62023026
external monitor is of course better, but dont totally write off the internal screen. some stuff will still run fine, especially at the lower 768p res. when away from the desk with monitor, i often run overwatch and new vegas at a solid 60 fps and prey at a playable 30

I wanna get a t440p. Anything essential to upgrade and any price range i should look for?

>>62023161
Yeah, it was around $110 in USPS fees + import fees for my t420 like two years ago.

Now I'm trying to get an original battery for my t440p and it's literally impossible, also no one ships batteries overseas. This is hell.

>>62023269
FHD IPS screen comes to mind. Replace the touchpad too if you're a trackpoint fan.

>>62019794
nice. also your gf looks cute

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>thinkpad keyboard keys get shinier with use
How can fix this?

>>62023491
accept it.

>>62023491
paint the keys

only retards can't touch type anyway

>>62023491
My X230 w/ backlit keyboard was pristine when I got it in January '17. I wipe it every once in a while with a disinfecting wipe, and it hasn't gotten shiny yet, even the spacebar is still perfect. However the middle click and left click of the trackpoint are wearing down and shiny, they definitely see a fair bit of use.

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Anybody know how to get this numpad in the optical drive type of deal? Or was this something that he jerry rigged himself? This was posted quite a few threads ago.

>>62023802
Probably this: https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Plus_Numeric_Keypad

Other devices: https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Devices

Any recommendations between the t470 and t570? I think the offset keyboard on the t570 will be a minor annoyance that will become major over time. I wouldn't mind the larger screen though. Otherwise they seem very similar. Also do I need to run anything special to dual boot linux on those?

>>62023837
Thank you so much! I had searched a lot and never found this!

>>62018703
I have a 2760p.
Definetly get the 2760p unless you want to deal with those retarded 1.8 inch HDDs.

Win10 is a bit retarded on it regarding automatic screen rotation. Linux is top notch.

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>>62023890
No problem, there are actually quite a bit of odd accessories out there

>>62023981
Are you familiar with anything similar for the t470? I'm >>62023863.

Got a new X270 off ebay on impulse. Noticed it had the i5-6300u processor. Anyway was it a good buy at 675? starting to read a lot of negative things about it like build quality and heat.

>>62024007
1080p screen, 500GB hard drive that I' replacing with a SSD I have lying around anyway

>>62023981
you seem to know a little on the subject; how possible do you think it is to convert a ultrabay plus device (such as the numpad) to the serial ultrabay enhanced device
I want a numberpad like that for my laptop but its a t420. I'm thinking I could just take it apart and with some tinkering put it into the case of a serial ultrabay enhanced device such as the one that a t420 would use?
Do you have any idea on what it would take to do something like this

>>62017041
agreed. smol and v cute but can sometimes be hard to do srs work on. i like to make my desktop comfy and i can't fit enough shit on my screen

>>62013756
if it's that bad why not give it a hard time?

Does anyone know what the approximate average life on Lenovo batteries tends to be? I have a 6-cell on my X201, and recently it's been suddenly dropping down to "critical" <10% charge from around 40-50% The battery is only around 3 months old now, so I was wondering if it could be in some way defective, since that kind of wear in just 3 months seems a bit excessive.

>>62024039
run a battery reset/recalibrate it, then see if you're eligible to return it under warranty if it had a warranty

>>62017068
t420 with 9cells battery

>>62024000
>>62024023

You might be out of luck, unless you can hack something together. I'm not too familiar with these machines, but there is probably an internal USB port you could cannibalize. Then maybe fit a usb numpad into an empty ultrabay device and connect it to the internal USB. I don't know of any legit devices though.

>>62024229
sheeeeit
the good news is I found my dream workstation laptop
>w700
it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Can I move my W520's 4GB ram and put it in a x120e?

>>62024254
That'd be sweet, I'd love to get a TP with a higher res than my X230t, but I'm afraid I'd miss the touch feature. Plus too lazy/poor fag

How to check if screen is IPS or not? Is this info available in hwinfo or Speccy?
I am looking at an X230 and an X1 Carbon.

>>62024256
if it's the same ram that it uses then sure ddr3 works

>>62024032
It's fine for my purposes and light enough to carry around

>>62024721
by plugging the serial number into lenovo's site
hwinfo and speccy also show it, it's labelled as "high density and wide viewing angle display" or something like that

>>62024721
hwinfo > monitor or display > model

google the model or post it here and some autist will look it up and call you a fag for not having an ips screen

>>62013681
/Tpg/, looking for some advice. I need a Facebook/microsoft office machine for my wife. No games or hd videos, but needs a nice keyboard, touchpad, bright screen, good battery life, and runs fast. I have an SSD and extra RAM to put in it. Any thoughts?

>>62025045
yes a thinkpad fits your needs

>>62025104
I thought so too, any models that are better than others?

>>62025129
yes, it depends on your budget and what size you want

>>62025132
Sorry, I should have used the template from the pastebin. I'd prefer sub $300, but up to $500 is okay. I'm looking for factory refurbished or new and size doesn't really matter as long as it's 15" or below.

>>62025150
if it absolutely must be 'factory refurbished' (fancy word for used and fresh OS install) or new then look at lenovo's outlet
http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/outletus/laptops/c/LAPTOPS?q=%3Aprice-asc%3AfacetSys-Brand%3AThink&page=0

the T460s looks like a decent deal, might want to upgrade RAM and get the bigger extended battery for it though

>>62025243
Thanks for looking, I appreciate it. I really just want it from a place where I can return it if I need to. I bought a used laptop last time around and the battery charger is all screwed up. That's why I'm in the market for a new one.

>>62025243
how often does the outlet restock?

>>62025243
How does the t450 stack up? I found one for $345 on newegg.

>>62025352
post the details man, your wife literally needs anything that has >2Ghz so whatever tickles her fancy

>>62025352
I looked at the specs and felt retarded for posting the question after. Previous generation i5, no SSD, 4GB RAM. I have the SSD and RAM, and I don't think the processor is going to be a big deal (it's still a 5200U at 2.7Ghz). Just bought it. Thanks for your help tonight, I really do appreciate it. I probably would have gotten the t460, but it was sold out at the outlet and like $800-$1100 anywhere else.
I have a Lenovo laptop myself, but it's a y510p, not a Thinkpad. I'm looking forward to seeing what all the hype is about. The touchpad on the y510p is god awful, btw.

>>62025449
oops, meant for you >>62025401

>>62025449
>I'm looking forward to seeing what all the hype is about.
That only counts for older models.

>>62025462
ya if you've got the SSD and RAM she'll be using that machine for at least 7 years, enjoy

>>62025476
I've been incredibly happy with my other Lenovo laptop, which I've had for about 4 years. It's the only one I've owned since IBM sold out.

the t470p seems godlike ngl, hella expensive though, especially if i wanted to get it with the nvidia card

i just hate having those shitty integrated chips

>>62025588
My other laptop is a y510p, 2x 750m cards in SLI and I bought it new in 2013 for under $1k. Shitty touchpad but I can still get 50-60 fps in GTAV at 1080p and Witcher 3 will chug along at 35ish fps at 1080p.

What thinkpad could play overwatch on ultra setting at 60 fps? I will literally buy it right now.

>>62025611
>tfw it looks pretty good but gaymer looking case mf turns you the hell off

the price i pay for dignity

>>62025685
sorry man, thinkpads aren't really a gaming laptop
You would much rather buy something that is a gaming laptop. the reason we fag over thinkpads so much is because we think they have better keyboards and are easily serviceable. They are not known for their performance.

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>>62025693
Honestly, it looks pretty low-key. I've been very satisfied with it. It certainly doesn't have that alienware vibe about it.

>>62025720
If you want to game, build a desktop. I'm of the opinion that laptops are for businessy stuff and it's nice if you can play games while you are travelling. Personally, I don't even take my laptop with me anymore on trips, I just plug a controller in to my phone and play old emulator and final fantasy games for entertainment.

>>62025720
>>62025752
sorry /g/ents I've been using thinkpads since 2003 and I won't go back. I didn't ask about desktops or other brands, I asked a very straight forward question (hope im not sounding like a dick). For example, I know the P3000 gpu or M4000M gpu can easily play overwatch, any other gpus ? I seldom play games but I still want to be able to play something (even at lower than optimal settings) after working all day

>>62025773
No worries, you don't sound like a dick. A game like overwatch is probably fine as long as you have a dedicated video card in a laptop.
This link might help you
https://laptop.ninja/finding-the-best-gaming-laptops-under-500-dollars/

>>62025773
Also, I realize you are looking for a thinkpad, but the link I gave you can give you an idea about which video cards you should look for.

>>62025858
my NVS3100m sucks at playing overwatch (using a T510 with 6gb and an i& M620 at 2.67ghz ), so I think I need like a K2100M and up?

What quad-core CPUs can a T420 take?

>>62025773
I know how you feel. My t510 with Nvs graphics does okay for light gaming but I don't think it could handle over watch.
If you really want to do something then you could try out the eGPU meme. I'll do it someday, that's the only reason I bought a laptop with the graphics card after all. (so I don't have to use a second screen as a primary [gross])

>>62025925
Anything mobile sandy bridge.

Now, "what quadcore cpus can it take without being housefire tier" would be 2630qm, 2670qm and 2720qm.

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>>62025909
Looks like t470 might be an option based on pic related. ITT if you are wanting to do any gaming you will find better value outside of a thinkpad.

>>62025951
Is it even worth it over the 2450m?

>>62026071
Yes, massively if you need multicore performance. Otherwise no.

>>62026007
I guess im just gonna wait till I can get a thinkpad with at least an m4000m or p3000 gpu...

hey think bros... where can i get the modified bios for the t430 so that it can use non-white-list batteries??

I wanna get a t440p. Anything essential to upgrade and any price range i should look for?

>>62026124
Do any porn games run multicore? This laptop is for lewd.

>>62026485
>>62023269
is this a new meme

>94Wh battery (genuine Lenovo)
>getting 74Wh
What do? I don't have time to wait for a replacement in the mail, I'm leaving the country in a week and need the laptop with me.

>>62026523
I wanna get a t440p. Anything essential to upgrade and any price range i should look for?

>>62026535
install gentoo

>>62026553
Anon pls

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I'm looking for a thinkpad with a good display
1080 IPS would be ideal
What should I get /g/?

>>62026562
t440p like this memelord >>62026546

>>62026560
do it faggot

>>62026568
How will this fix my battery?

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>>62026568
Fine you triple nigger

How do things work around here? This isn't my home board, and I'm assuming OP hasn't been watching this thread since Monday. Who bakes?

Scored a thinkpad t460s today on Craigslist for fucking 300 dollars. It was brand new, sealed. Balling.

>>62026717
?

>>62026764
>Things that didn't happen

>>62026784
When do you guys normally make a new thread?

>>62026789

You are probably just really jealous, but it did actually happen.

>>62026860
No, I totally am. I was the fag a few posts above looking for a laptop for the wife. Just spent $345 on a refurb t450.

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>First personal laptop was a ThinkPad (previously had used a family computer that was technically a laptop despite being wired to the wall constantly) that was issued for students at my high school
>Lenovo ends support, replaced with iPad.
>Buy IdeaPad.
>Where the fuck is it? This is a Lenovo! A ThinkPad!
>Realize that's why it's so cheap.
>Found business in high school, spend basically my entire life savings on ThinkPad
>Mother freezes a water bottle and it explodes.
>Water reaches CPU, ThinkPad resilience displayed.
>partially disassemble ThinkPad as an experienced user and former Vice President of the Computer Club
>accidentally break six of my keys though
It's been over three years, well past how long my IdeaPad lasted. Way more than I expected. But that's to be expected...of a ThinkPad.

(But then it gets sad because now I have hardware errors and such which probably are related to the fact I overuse Turbo Boost.)

New thread:

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>>62027164

how much should i offer for an x61 without battery and locked bios?

it's easy to remove the supervisor pwd so it doesn't matter to me but still

>>62026567
I wanna get a t440p. Anything essential to upgrade and any price range i should look for?

>>62021905
Pretty good

>>62022302
Nope
There was talk of some really really sketchy mods on some chink forums though

>>62024007
Lenovo made a version of the X270 with a 6th gen cpu?
Somethings not right here

>>62025352
If you can get it off Newegg you can also go for a T420 or T430 (or X220 or X230) which are more than enough

>>62025685
You can play it on a T430 at 30 fps on low

>>62026405
It's not the bios it's the EC https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

>tfw no money
Here, someone take this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172794073134

>>62027211
Remove the password and ask for more