/tpg/: ThinkPad General

>>62027164
Sage this thread, start a new one without the propaganda image.

>>62027172
So this is /g/'s /ptg/. Interesting. Sometimes you have to laugh OP's image off.

>>62027194
Anyone can post the thread, what makes this one the "official" one?

>>62027210
Nothing's official here. I'm not a retard, just not well versed in this particular board's culture.

>>62027211
$50

>>62027172
>being offended by some Thinkpad memes
Welcome to nu-/g/

>>62027318
>>62027322
Jesus, this is /pol/ but replace Jew with Apple.

>>62027322
>reddit spacing

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>>62027351
Ugh. People are accustomed to seeing the picture of the red nub, because it is a distinctive feature of the ThinkPad not a meme that is the worthless opinion of some shill.

People are going to be confused, because when they look for what they are accustomed to seeing, it would be as though this weren't the real TPG.

I'm just saying.

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>>62027389
It's there

>>62027415
Ok, well now it is here >>62027468

See you in the new thread! Shill all you want but be sure you speak English and not martian or whatever it is you freaks use.

How bad is the Battery DRM on newer chinkpads?

Found an x230 with i5-3230M, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD with an IPS display for 389e. Any good? A bit expensive but such is life with weird nordic keyboards and taxes. A bit worried about the warranty only being 6 months.

>>62027488
pretty bad

>>62027493
it's alright considering your taxes, but I'm sure you can do better by not buying from an actual store.

>>62027483
So now you're splitting threads. That's pretty disgusting.

>>62027528
Worth enough avoiding them?

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So /tpg/ I opened up my T420s to fix my airplane switch, reseated the ribbon cables and whatnot. On that end of things, everything seems to have worked. However upon booting my touchpad/trackpoint are no longer functioning. The keyboard works fine. So, what do?

>>62027546
if you can find the same one for like 250-300, then yes go for it

>>62027556
probably the touchpad
around 300

>>62027528
I'm okay with paying a bit extra for the store stuff. Less of a hassle and no warranty at all with individual sellers. I might get the x230 then. Hope the resolution won't be an issue.

>>62027533
This thread doesn't really exist, however. If you want some toxic echo chamber you should go back to r**dit.

I wanna get a t440p. Anything essential to upgrade and any price range i should look for?

>>62027602
This thread really exists and you are splitting.

>>62027617
probably the fucking touchpad
around 300

>>62027631
I'm just trying to take a stand against fascism. If it doesn't work then... well I don't want to go there.

>>62027552
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

>>62027552
>reseated the ribbon cables
probably broken connectors. it's kinda weird because keyboard&trackpoint are on one ribbon, and touchpad is on another ribbon. what OS do you have? you should reinstall those devices. also check bios settings.

>>62027705
I'm running manjaro. I did check the bios already and both are enabled.

I got a t460s new for 300 dollars today on Craigslist, not even memeing. Maybe she didn't know what she had, idk. Suck it tho

My T60 has a 1400 by 1050 screen, is that the good one?

>>62027705
Is there a good way to test the connectors? They don't look messed up.

how'st to increase battery life in GNU/Linux (Debian Testing) on my T420

x220 or x230?
i can get them locally for roughly the same price for the same specs
i guess the x220 avoids some of the chink wank at the expense of usb3 and the hd4000

>>62027890
according to /tpg/, the older the better

X230 180GB SSD 8GB Ram i5 for $200?

>>62027955
Or same price with 4GB ram and 240GB SSD?

>>62027955
yes

>>62027890
if you really need usb3.0 (3x the irl speed vs usb2.0) aka you transfer a lot of shit from removable hard drives back and forth and you need to play games, then go for a x230. but you're better off with a T430 or a T530 for gaymen aka don't get hot as fuck.

>>62027980
if it's one 4gb stick so you can buy one later then it's fine, otherwise it's a ripoff.

>>62027853
Broken connector or broken ribbons, I dont see how you can test them by yourself, you can always go to a repair shop and ask them nicely to test them for you, or you can get another used keyboard and palm rest and see if they work on your machine. Until then you should get a usb keyboard and mouse.

Is it worth updating my X220 from Sierra to High Sierra at this point?

>>62028163
how's the hardware support on OSX?
bluetooth, thinklight, AC network card, touchpad, trackpoint, all usb ports, displayport, vga, battery thresholds ? any issues?

>>62028360
Not him but all of those except for the sd card reader just work on my gayOS T420, even the expresscard.

Oh and you need to change the wlan card, the stock intel won't work.

>>62028360
You need to buy some $10 wlan card and the touchpad is janky. I didn't try VGA but displayport and dvi (through the dock) work fine. The rest, no issues. Battery bretty good I might say, but of course there's no neat fancy software to adjust thresholds (that I know of). Since my X220 doesn't have USB 3.0 I couldn't tell you how good that works, but 2.0 does nicely. Thinklight and bluetooth just werk.

>>62028409
>there's no neat fancy software to adjust thresholds

how's the install process? I'm willing to try it at some point but it seems way too tedious, after all these years isn't there like a way to set up a thumbdrive with the OSX installer and install it like a Linux distribution?

Is ssd in a t440p worth it?

>>62028636
M2?

Who here /psyched/ about the new Raven Ridge Thinkpads? It's gonna be a good Christmas.

>>62028654
Yeah

>>62028522
Well that definitely is the tedious part.

You need macOS, so you would have to use a virtual machine if you don't have one of those machines around. I happen to use hackintosh on my PC too so not much of a big deal.

Then it's a process that involves downloading the OS through the app store, using a command to make a bootable usb, install the bootloader (Clover) on it as well and put some downloaded files on the EFI partition in that USB. After that, not much.

Also you would have to use a custom BIOS but that's linked on this guide:

http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

I still find it worth the effort.

>>62027689
>>>/pol/

>>62028668
why not

>>62028636
SSDs are always worth it

>>62028662
>Raven Ridge

>>62029084
>he doesn't know how to greentext

>>62029233
Even a 4200U will poo on those AMD machines, my nigger.

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Are convertibles a meme? Thinking of getting a Thinkpad Yoga.

>>62029327
SOPA

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>>62029485
horrendous backlight bleeding screens tho

>>62029327
>4c/8t processor with 1060 level graphics
>shit on by 4200U
keep dreaming, kike

What's the general consensus on th SL series, bought an sL510 from a pawn shop and have been liking it so far, but can't find any buyers guide with an SL in then

>>62029562
>4c/8t processor with 1060 level graphics
sure Deepak Prajeesh, whatever you say.

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What does /tpg/ think about the HP Elitebook 820 G1?

>i5 4300U
>Good build quality
>Backlit keyboard
Only problem is that it only has a 1366 x 768 screen, but at least it is LED.

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>>62029722
Two loo tokens have been deposited into your poo account.

>>62029749
There is no high res display option for this laptop?

>>62030075
Not on the 12.5inch screen model. I'm now looking at the 15 inch model because it has a 1080p screen.

>>62030098
Hmm, I didn't notice the two button trackpoint the first time. How are you going to scroll with that thing?

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I went to replace the display on my X220T only to find out that one of the screws on the side of the LCD plastic is stripped, and no DIY method seems to work.

>>62030112
gestures

>>62030116
Use a screw extractor, or use a dremel to grind a line down the centre of the screw so you can use a flat heat screwdriver to twist it out.

>>62030179
Trackpoint, not trackpad.

>>62030206
Cheers anon, I think I'll give the dremel route a shout.

>>62030112
If I'm not wrong the local 2570p fag said you scroll by holding the right click down

>>62030241
You can't scroll using the trackpoint by default, you need to change setting to assign on of the buttons to the middle mouse button.

>>62030339
>having to remap buttons to even scroll
>no way to middle click
What's the point of having a useless trackpoint like that?

>>62030385
I don't own a elitebook, I just did a quick google search so I might be wrong here >>62030339

>>62030339
>>62030442
Well, that seems to be the only way to do it, and then you'd have to come up with another solution to middle click.

How do i enable clickable trackpoint on t430 in gnu/Linux if it works on w10 and not i mint?

any x230t owners?
i just bought one and the battery is below 50%. are there any chink batteries that work without messing with bios?

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Nvidia Quadro K1000 series or AMD HD 8000 series GPU?

Also would it be better to get a proper workstation laptop with 4C/8T + GPU, or a smaller "mobile" laptop 2C/4T with igpu for University? (Mechanical Engineering student)

My company wants to buy new laptops - are new thinkpads worth it? T470 and P51 were mentioned in the meeting and I have a vote on it

Any recommendations?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1ZD5864327&cm_re=x250-_-9SIA1ZD5864327-_-Product

How do I know if the bios on these is locked down? Has anyone bought an x250 from newegg?

>>62030786
buy new Libre x200

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Is 300 usd a bit steep for a ThinkPad L430: 180 GB SSD, 8 GB ddr 3, i5 3310M / 2.5 GHz ? asking because I'm not sure

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Thought's on the first gen X1?

Anything wrong with it? Should I get a newer gen version of the X1, should I go for something completely different.

>>62027164
I want to buy the generic blank steel cd drive caddy instead of the edgy black knockoff Ultrabay caddy, anyone else have experience? I wanna spend the extra thirty bucks on Memory

>>62030885
>€478

>>62030885

Looks nice but weak performance

>>62030887
Holy shit, look at that bezel.

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Thought's on HP's Zbooks?
How well do they compare to Thinkpads W or P series?

>>62027164
Has anyone managed to use the discrete graphics card on a T470p on any linux distro? I've been trying on Fedora: Proprietary repos: black screen, Repo drivers: black screen, Bumblebee: seg faults all over, black screen after uninstall. negativo17 repo black screen after install. Seems like its nouveau and screen tearing just playing videos, or off to an OS that works.

I have a chance to buy a T60 for £20, only has non responsive touchpad keys, and super shit battery, everything else functional. Is it any much of a bargain?

>>62031378
buy it

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>>62031356
>Linux just werks

>>62031410
Yeah, no one who says that has tried to actually do anything with it. Everything is a pain in the ass.

>>62031356
Windows doesn't have this problem.

>>62031538
Yeah. I was hoping to avoid the botnet, but I suppose I'll have to move back.

>>62031557
You're using a proprietary BIOS, and graphics that require propreitary blobs to function. Either way, you're still using the botnet. Of course Linux won't work well on shitty hardware like that.

>>62031356
>>62031557
Have you tried a different distro of Linux such as Ubuntu? by proprietary repos do you mean the closed sourced Nvidia Drivers?

>>62031631
There's miles difference between windows 10 and nvidia proprietary drivers. Why is the hardware shitty?

>>62031662
I have not tried other distros, was hoping to get a pointer to a known working distro before spending that much time. Yeah by proprietary I mean the drivers downloaded from Nvidia's site.

All of the things I tried claim to support Optimus (which is what the T470p is using) but none of them actually seem to work on the T470p. If someone knows of any working variant, that's all I'm looking for. Otherwise I'll just move back to Windows 10.

Are T440s's good?

I've seen a lot of people write off any models past the ivybridge gen. I know you can replace the touch button trackpoint buttons with a T450s's.

Is there anything I should know about with the T440s? I've had an X220 for a while and I love it, but the 720p screen while nice looking makes coding less than optimal as a daily driver.

I'm also considering the touch model if it's not a joke but that's really an afterthought.

I've also heard they got rid of that comfy matte soft touch shit on the shell that I like. Is that true?

>>62031665
Because it requires proprietary software to function. You have no idea what software is running on your system, and with the recent blatant inclusions of telemetry services on the Windows driver suite, is pretty clear your data is being harvested. Enjoy your botnet.

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>>62031692
Yeah try Ubuntu.
https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t470p_ug_en.pdf

>>62031725
Sorry I'm not a Stallman wannabe. There are shades of gray, and proprietary Nvidia drivers are better than Windows 10 + proprietary Nvidia drivers.

>>62027853
Use the continuity function on a multimeter an test from the ribbon ends to where they attach on the board.

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>>62031804
>>62031692
>>62031356
Which version of Fedora did you use?
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/nz/en/parts/PD031426
https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/2858541
https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201701-25344/

>>62030623
It's not the bios faggot
It's the EC
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

>>62030887
Wtf throw that shit away
Where do you live where you can't get a T430 for under 300

Is there a way to install Coreboot on a T420 without flashing it externally? From what I understood the stock BIOS protects the chip from being flashed by software but once Coreboot is installed it disables this "feature", am I correct?

>>62030895
Third gen ULV is whats wrong with it
It's not efficient enough nor does have all of the other neat thinkpad features to make the battery last longer

Don't even ask about the second gen X1 it's third gen or better

>>62031770
>>62031887
I get the feeling by "supported" they mean that the OS runs on the laptop, but perhaps not that the discrete graphics card works. (I'm using it now after all, just on integrated graphics)

I'm using Fedora 26. Since Fedora is basically the free/desktop version of RHEL I figured it would be my best bet. Ubuntu would be the other way to go, I'm surely not paying up for RHEL.

I could just be screwing it up, but I can't find any confirmed cases of someone getting the discrete card to work on linux. I'm just debating how much energy to invest in this.

>>62030911
I did that
The holes might not exactly be properly sized with the shit Chinese caddies
To remove the side cover open the driver and take off the bottom metal plate then push the clips from the inside

>>62031959
Thanks for the advice.

>>62031430
>>62031410
>>62031356
>blaming linux for Nvidia dipshittery
Get out you newfags
Nvidia insists on making shit that doesn't work on linux

OK guys, i'm thinking about Thinkpad E570.
It has the same specs T570 has for half the price. What's the catch here? Is buying E570 a good idea?

>>62031974
>https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201701-25344/
>The Lenovo ThinkPad T470p laptop with the components described below has been awarded the status of certified pre-install for Ubuntu.
>Hardware summary
>This system was tested with these key components:
>Processor
>Intel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7440HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz
>Video
>nVidia GM108M [GeForce 940MX]
>Intel Unknown
Looks like it works.

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>>62032008
The trolling is strong with you. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just trying to get it to work.

>>62032043
Give up because it's not worth it. Go back to Windows for your gaymen, winbaby.

>>62027164
I want opinions on the x270
Seriously thinking about it for next laptop.

>>62032060
Its not about gaming, screen tearing is a major problem on the integrated graphics even playing youtube videos. The performance shouldn't suck this bad.

>>62032033
it's not tonka tough

>>62032033
>What's the catch here
Minor things like lacking a magnesium rollcage.

Is HP EliteBook 2570p for $140 a good deal?

>>62032042
Hmmm. I guess I'll give Ubuntu a try then and see if I can get it running well. Thanks for the tip.

>>62032112
>>62032116
So if im not going to throw it around I'm good? Or should I better buy Dell Inspiron for about the same price?

any good recommendations for used business class laptops with a 1080p screen? Cheaper the better. Don't want to have to be messing around with replacing screens and modding old think pads to make them compatible with modern full HD screens too, I just don't have time to be doing that

Cheers lads

>>62032110
Compton

>>62030895
shit screen

>>62030887
shit price

>>62030911
the generic one is chink shit

>>62032124
almost, yes

>>62032205
W520, W530

>>62027172
>>62027210
lmao@u

>>62030887
Read the fucking OP

>62022273
It's okay. You did get me a little excited though. I've been contemplating the whole libreboot/coreboot/modded bios thing.

>>62032679
>>62022273
sigh

is there any point of using docking station except for additional ports?

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>>62027689
>I'm just trying to take a stand against fascism. If it doesn't work then...
Kill yourself

>>62027689
Hi Tumblr

>>62032367
thanks, stranger.

so I'm looking for a really portable thinkpad and I found both a x200 and x201 on ebay, first at 125€ and latter at 150€. first has no trackpad and only the red nipple. should I go for it? spending 25€ more I get a trackpad and somewhat better specs tho

Is it reasonable to buy new T570? I saved some cash, but still feel a little uncomfortable spending that much money.

inb4 get used T520 - I'd rather not.

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Hey guys, I got a replacement fan for my X220 because the old one died. I've taken it apart before so that's not a concern, but I've never used thermal paste or removed it.

How do I remove thermal paste from the CPU, and what's a good brand of paste to put on it? And also I guess, how much should go on?

>>62027493
Does that e mean Euro? Because if so man I feel sorry for you guys if thinkpads are that much.

>can buy 6 chinkshit batteries for my x220 for the price of 1 OEM battery
>they aren't bad
Based chinks

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>>62033939
you can remove thermal paste with whatever piece of paper you have. just don't spread it on the motherboard when you do so. reapply it using only a bit

>>62033939
https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-ArctiClean/dp/B002DILLMS/

>>62030887
robbery

>they accepted my RMA request
94Wh battery actually rated at 72Wh, feels good to replace it.

>>62033715
X200 if you want to Libreboot it eventually. If you don't care about your freedom, get the X201. Hyperthreading is a blessing:

>>62033845
Get the T520 or nothing. Why would you rather not?

>>62034156
I would check if your original battery is eligable for the recall before buying a bunch of chink batteries that would last a 4th as long as an OEM.

>>62033715
Trackpad is worthless anyway.

>>62033939
NT-H1

>>62034415
What recall?

>>62030887
Maximum kek

>>62034449
did you try googling lenovo battery recall

>>62034415
>Get the T520 or nothing. Why would you rather not?
I don't like to think how much semen previous owner left on the keyboard every time i touch it.
Also I enjoy casual vidya from time to time

>>62034434
yeah but the x200 comes with 2gb of ram, the x201 comes with 4gb

>>62034500
T520 and an eGPU is more than enough power for gaymen. As for potential semen, just clean it.

>>62034449
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/hf004122

>>62034525
Irrelevant. Just buy more if you need it, both the X200 and X201 support up to 8GB's of RAM.

>>62034634
>an eGPU is more than enough power
any resources on eGPUs?

will coreboot work on my t430 even though i have custom ec firmware?

>>62034634
found a x200 with 4gb of ram for 100€. guess I'll go for it. thanks for the info

>>62034738
Been discussed here a few times, can't speak from experience. Search around the net a bit.

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this guy is selling a x200 but the model says x200si. is this legit?

>>62034968
He is probably just inexperienced with selling thinkpads.

>>62035008
so I should ignore him and look for something else?

>>62034968
>>62035008
>>62035024
The X200si is a real machine. Given the "Vodaphone" sticker, it's probably a regular X200s with a Mobile Data pci card included. Sounds like a rarer machine to me, and if you do buy it, remove that pci card.

>>62035024
You could ask if that is an actual depiction of the laptop he is selling.

>>62035065
Is the mobile data pci card functional? Could it really be used with something like Verizon mobile data or would that not be possible?

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>Garage sale
>Seen a T420
>Ask the lady how much
>"It was my sons, he passed away last year....."
>Ask her how much
>$30
>Get it and go home
>Fire it up
>Windows 10
>Encrypted partition
>My documents
>encryption key.txt
>Access encrypted drive
>Like 8,000 porn images from /b/, /s/ and /hc/
>Lots of jailbait/questionable age teens

Dban will be enough or should I just smash the drive and stick an SSD into it? It's a 500GB hard drive

Hey people i bought a T540p for 300 euros today.
It's FHD and it has an ssd but it is an I3.

What is my upgrade path?
i already know i can install a non-german keyboard, but what about cpu and disks?

>>62035275
nothing, "modern" soldered shit

>>62035285
oh nevermind i read that as t450 instead of 540.

3 drives with optical drive and m.2 slot, also quad core haswell processors.

>>62031932
same shit faggot

>>62035275

Get a caddy, remove optical drive and stick a hard drive or SSD in a caddy into it. Also it will take up to 4910MQ don't quote me on it but I don't think the MX quadcores work like the i7-4930MX and i7-4940MX. Max ram is 16GB. Swap out the trackpad for a T450/550 trackpad. Sadly the M.2 slot is 2248 size which is the smallest size and basically nobody stocks them and their largest size is 128gb or 256GB but goodluck finding someone who sells them as ADATA and other vendors stopped manufacturing them.

>>62035344
the Lenovo FRU part lists say it supports up to I7 4900MQ tho.
What could be a total expense with an i7/i5, ram and an hdd (it already has an ssd inside)?

>>62035398


If you price hunt

$30 for ram
$150 for cpu
$40 for hdd

Ive seen 4700mq before for $70 so maybe keep an eye out for that model

>>62027164
what's wrong with the t430 other than the battery drm and keyboard (which is pure preference)

>>62027164
>wanting a third party dangerous as fuck battery

>>62035454
you can get good ram for thinkpads on ebay too? i always bought new ram for my devices

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I got 2x8gb Kingston 1666mhz lv ram on my X230, it's underclocked and I can't find the XMP option in BIOS. Wat do?

Why don't my t420 click buttons work anymore? Gave them a clean but they still don't work ree

>>62035264
call the fbi and get the woman arrested

>>62035264
What are the odds? How'd her son die? Was it suicide? If I were you, I would obliterate the HDD physically.

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>>62034232
Do I need one of those plastic things to flatten it, or should the fan do that on its own?

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So how does the Lenovo "DRM" battery thing for modern thinkpads work anyway? Anyone knows?

As far as i know it's supposed to only take genuine batteries from Lenovo but i see some third-party batteries with good reviews as well which means that they also work with the devices. I'm asking because i need a battery but i have 0 as in literal zero chances of getting a genuine one so i must settle for fakes or nothing.

>>62035498

just hunt around youll come across people who had a dead laptop so they part it out selling the ram dirt cheap ive never had dead/bad ram in the past 15 years

What's the fuzz all about old thinkpads (say t420/t430)
aren't they just slow as fuck old shitty laptops compared to modern laptops?

>>62035570
chip in battery that tells laptop it's a good battery

>>62035604

no

The 2017 12" MacBook cpu is only 6% faster than the 2520m in an x220

>>62035171
Keyboard is European, so probably not.

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>>62034500
If you're that paranoid, it's pretty easy to clean the keyboard. Also what said>>62034634

Throw an eGPU in the express card slot and you'll be good to go. It'll be cheaper than buying a new T570, and you'll have better gaymen performance.

>>62035636
i wasn't talking about throttlebooks

>>62035470
Supposedly the screen sucks, but I can't speak from experience on that one.

>>62035604
From a price to performance ratio, they can't be beat (save for a couple elitebooks, but their build quality can br questionable).

>>62035264
Proof?

Is a X200T still viable in this day and age?

>>62035470
Being able to change the battery or keyboard is not a matter of pure preference, it is a matter of modability. If you can't change those parts, then it fails at being a modable laptop.

>>62035792
>X200T
No.

>>62027164
Why does x220 pepe hold a fire fire extuinguiser?

>>62035635
What's the probability of a fake battery from China being a good fake and having that chip as well? I wouldn't want to wait a month for something that isn't going to work, fug.

>>62036192
WH`hat model do you have? Why not just get a BIOS without the whitelist bullshit?

>>62036217
T440p, no modified BIOSes or EC flashing like the T430 as far as i know.

>>62036192
pretty high I guess since the *40 batteries are specific to the *40's

while the *30's can fit the *20 batteries but don't work because no chip

>>62035604
(You)

>>62027389
You're right, /tpg/ needs that nub image.

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>>62035838
What about a T410?

>>62035792
Yes it's fine with an SSD.

>>62036395
Fine as well.

Can someone link the EC flasher for using the X220 keyboard on an X230?

>>62036296
Well i guess i'll buy it anyway, I'm tired of being unable to use my laptop unless i'm next to a plug socket.

Dell XPS 15 or Thinkpad T570?

>>62036395
Yeah, that would be fine.

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I just want to change the keyboard lenovo. Does it have to be this hard? (Yoga S1, yes I know, it was my brothers, couldn't say no)

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>>62036891
>setting the bare keyboard on the mousepad
is that a good idea? are those non-conductive...?

>>62029550
>>>62029485
>horrendous backlight bleeding screens tho
Wait my normal (non convertible) laptop screen looks like this. Any fix?

>>62036541
>Dell XPS 15
I think the Dell XPS 15 may actually be better. The newer Lenovo Thinkpads are not that good.

Can i grab a SIM card, put it in a thinkpad and get internet?

>>62037205
if it has a WWAN card and you have a data plan on that SIM card, sure

>>62037214
Can I make gsm calls?

My new, sweet-sweet E7440 will be arriving tomorrow. Hell yes boys! Best €380 spent this year.

>>62035513
Thats 1600 mhz you stupid idiot

>>62037313
if the WWAN card is capable of GSM bands then I think so, yes

Got him to lower to $160 plus $10 for shipping.
Good deal?

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>>62037581
Forgot the picture

>>62035306
Do you enjoy being retarded or can't you help it?
You don't need special hardware to flash your EC you triple nigger

>>62031953
But you would need to flash coreboot externally first

(Hint: the answer is no)

>>62037595
>>62037385
It's good
Jump on it

>>62035549
that plastic thing is probably to let you preview how the thermal compound will be after you apply the cooler. don't worry about it, apply like in the webm and place the cooler/fan

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I wish the X series had socketed CPUs

>>62037745
you don't need hardware to mess with bios too. but that's not what i asked.
i just want to know if there is supported and cheap battery, and avoid all of that if i can, just plug it in
i see you enjoy being retarded :^)

>>62036923
Yeah I mean, this shit is cloth and rubber on the backside

>>62033939
Paper towel and rubbing alcohol

Can I use an X220 keyboard (just standard keys, no special keys) on an X230 without flashing the EC? I don't want to put the nasty old keyboard back in after cleaning the whole thing out. I just need it to flash the EC.

>couldn't figure out how to clean the previous owner's filth out of the palm rest
>remember the waterproof memes
>mix one part 70% alcohol to 9 parts water
>pour it through
It's drying in the sun right now, how'd I do?

Okay dudes. Which one:
W550s (15" 2880 x 1620 screen, W7, 8GB ram 500GB/7200rpm, NVIDIA - Quadro K620 2GB, Intel Core i7-5600U) or Dell Latitude E5470 (14" FHD Intel Core i7-6600U, Ram 8GB, HDD 500 GB/7200rpm, W7+10P, LTE, AMD Radeon R7 M360, 2GB) or Dell Latitude E5570 (15" FHD screenIntel Core , Ram 8GB, HDD 500 GB/7200rpm, W7, AMD Radeon R7 M360, 2GB)?

>>62029485
Not a terrible series, wish mine had Thunderbolt tho.
>t. P40 Yoga for uni

>>62031378
Yes. If anything, it will serve you as a browserbox. Those IBM ones are also more durable than the new Tx00 series (which I see as "good enough"), as the new ones are made by Lenovo.

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Found a T440p for 300. i7 4700mq 1080p IPS display. It has some temp issues so the heatsink and fans have to be changed
also the bottom cover is fucked up pic related. is it still worth?

>>62038911
forgot to mention, other than these issues, its pretty much mint. im in eu

>>62038911
that's weird how does that happen

Can I break the BIOS password on an X230?

>>62027164
where to find the fru of the t440s internal battery? i dont want to open it up any more than i have to because the case is cracked.

>>62039051
He said when he was trying to install an SSD, he fucked up one of the screws. I'm gonna inspect the laptop tomorrow though. Don't wanna buy a laptop with problems sight-unseen.
I guess I'll let you guys know how it goes tomorrow.

>>62027164
I just purchased my first thinkpad x220t laptop. I currently have linux mint cinnamon installed and am wondering how I can increase my vram for the Intel HD 3000 graphics. I read online that you can change the amount of system ram it takes as vram, but I have no idea on how to go about doing that on linux mint. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

>>62039529
it will automatically take as much as it can
by default at minimum it takes 50mb I think and then it goes up to 1.7gb

>>62039675
oh okay thanks anon, I was hoping I could up it higher since I just got a 4gb of ram upgrade.

My T430s can't shutdown without leaking power, a few percentage each night. Taking out the battery stops the leak so the problem is with the laptop itself.

Turned off all the power control options for all the devices in windows. Any ideas?

>>62039812
>Windows
Which version? If above 7, then the 'smart-suspense-hybrid-shutdown' thing could be at fault.

>>62039869
Should have mentioned, it's Windows 10.
I assume you are talking about fast startup right?
Isn't it just windows dumping parts of the memory to the hard drive before shutting down? Shouldn't waste power while shut down.

I'll try to disable it tonight, hope it'll help.

I'm wondering if other T430s owners don't have this problem.

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>>62030887
jfc it's the size of a w530 with like a quarter of the power...

lelnovo why

>>62034738
Get either MiniPCI or ExpressCard to PCI-E x16 adapter from China, and you can mount your own GPU. Requires external power tho

>>62035745
Basically the viewing angles and contrast are shit. Screen upgrade is easy enough tho

>>62035514
There's a cable under the touchpad that could have come undone.

Take off the palmrest and check.

>>62040101
But AFAIK no IPS panels are available as drop-in replacements, only a slightly better TN panel from an Alienware 14

>>62040227
Yeah that's correct, but from the pictures I've seen though it does seem to be a worthwhile upgrade.

should i do any voodoo bullshit with thermal paste before i start using my t420? it arrives on monday

>X230 arrives
>clean it out, new paste, X220 keyboard
>boots fine
>won't recognize my install USB
>BIOS password
I messaged the seller asking if he knew it, what do I do if he doesn't?

>>62039968
>Windows 10
literally why

>>62040673
If the fact that it had a BIOS password was not mentioned in the listing (I assume ebay?) it should be easy enough to return.

>>62040673
pretty sure you can short the eeprom on the x230 to remove the password if you like the machine that much

Want to get a laptop with touch input and backlit keyboard option for my mother, any suggestions?
Looking at the Elitebook Revolve G1, looks good for the price.

>>62040778
Thanks, I'll do that.

>>62040755
It was a ridiculously good price, and I've already put a few hours of work into it, so I'd rather not.

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Did I fuck up?

>>62041167
hmm alright. Well. there are ways to reset the password. Not sure how helpful it'll be but maybe take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZjUPUYE7s

This might be of use too: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/Password-for-MEBx-Login-on-new-ThinkPad-X230-laptop/m-p/809409#M31443

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>>62041204
seeing as 950NZD = about 690USD and these are the listings I can find on US ebay...maybe, I'm not sure of how the market is in New Zealand though. I know a lot of european countries have ridiculous prices for even T420's...

>>62041209
Thanks a bunch m8

>>62041248
Hope it helps... What did you end up paying for it?

Is the T440 trackpad truly that horrible? I'm tempted to get one for my next update because they seem so dirt cheap.

>>62041245
FUCK. Then again if I were to buy a laptop from the states it would cost and extra $50USD+ shipping and customs charges.
Well at least it comes with 24gb ram, 4c/8t cpu and nvidia qaudro graphics 1080p display, this thing is more powerfull than my desktop.

What should I get it if my only concerns are battery life, portability and price (>=$1500)?

>>62041308
>greater than or equal to $1500

>>62041335

Wrong sign. Obviously I meant <=.

>>62041258
$75. It was missing a rubber foot and the hard drive caddy. No battery or power adapter, but I didn't want the stock battery and I'm pretty sure none of us need more chargers.

Could I just call Lenovo support?

>>62041440
they won't do anything

>>62041440
Dang that is a really good deal.

I doubt support could do anything.

>>62027689
Yeah, tumblr. Everything you don't like is fascism.

what's the coolest running thinkpad laptop? can i get one to idle in the 30s and max out around 60?

>>62041496
anything can run cool if you underclock it enough

otherwise it's directly related to the size of the heatsink and laptops that are meant to be portable do not have very large heatsinks

Do all x220 thinkpads have mobile broadband support? Mine had a sim card in it, should i worry about the kikes tracking me?

>>62041581
if it has a WWAN card in it
you can take it out if you don't want GPS or mobile broadband

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>>62041204
Looks like it's SuSE for me. Should I try to get a legit commercial license or just get OpenSuSE?

>currently using t420 with docking station + 2 monitors
>tfw fell for libreboot meme
should i bother getting x200? ive heard that you gotta get right screen, etc. also, is libreboot even worth it? my multithread programming class really made me want to buy x200/x60 just for kicks and giggles

>>62036520
recondition your battery anon, it often works

if you're a tard who only plugs in on empty your battery's fried so fuck off instead

>>62035792

Yes it is.

>>62041818
My daily drivers are an X40 and a T60.

>>62029598
Ideapads doing cosplay.

>>62041809
It's used to hell and back, it came that way from the seller. The thing lasts like 10 min before dying.

I'm desperate enough to pay like $200 for a genuine 9cell but no one ships batteries overseas so fug me.

>>62029749
It's awful. Keyboard flex and most i5 motherboards have a bug that makes them stop working randomly and don't power on
>>62030075
It is. It can be changed for a 1080p IPS screen.

>>62028662
I hope that the chinks build a custom Raven Ridge motherboard for the X220
>tfw it could be possible to have a raven ridge x220 with bezel less UHD IPS screen
Future is beatiful lads.

>>62041881
>most i5 motherboards have a bug that makes them stop working randomly and don't power on
Holy shit!
What do you have to say about my most recent purchase then?>>62041204

>>62041734
should i bother getting t420? plz answer

>>62041918
i mean x200/x60

>>62041918
sure why not

>>62041914
No, its fine.

>>62041932
i already have t420 with dock with 2 monitors. is libreboot even worth it?

Is a t440p worth for $150?

>>62041995
yes

>>62041999
It is the non nvidia model with a 768p screen though

I was planning on upgrading the display to the t440s screen anyway because dat gamut

>>62041995
That's a steal anon

>>62041870
>It's used to hell and back, it came that way from the seller. The thing lasts like 10 min before dying.
You can try to bring it back, if you charge it for a few days, drain it to maybe half, and keep repeating that over and over like 10-20x and then drain it all the way it will probably show shit life but get "stuck" at like 5% for a long time.

Then charge it before it dies, keep doing that.

Also if you freeze it and whack it with your palm when it's frozen, then carefully thaw it (put it in a ziplok before you do it) it might bring it back even more.

There's also the possibility of getting a breaking charge to occur.

>I'm desperate enough to pay like $200 for a genuine 9cell but no one ships batteries overseas so fug me.

generic chinese batteries are fine though too, i have several, they all have genuine sanyo or sony cells

>>62041995
And what is the best Haswell CPU to drop into this thing?
There are so many fucking mobile Haswells holy shit

What's the cheapest setup for hardware flashing?

>>62042083
rpi

>>62042083
T420 or X220

>>62042104
How do I set that up?

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I travel a lot. My back is somewhat fucked. I need at least 256gb boot and 1-2TB secondary. Can I fit a secondary drive into any X1s?

Failing this, are there any T series, 14 inch and up, that would have a max weight of approx 2.2. kilo even with a secondary drive. (A standard 2.5 HD weighs about 120gram).

Thx anon.

>>62042052
Will do that since i have nothing else to do.

>generic chinese batteries are fine though too
I know, that isn't an issue for me. The thing is that stupid Lenovo "DRM" battery thing on modern thinkpads that prevents you from using use fake ones.

>>62042025
>It is the non nvidia model
In my opinion that's the better version anyway.

>with a 768p screen
Easily replaceable with a beautiful B140HAN01.3.

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Opinions on the T450s? I'm aware of the soldered RAM/12GB limit, but I doubt I'll need more since I'll only be using it for uni programming projects and MAYBE music production. How does the build quality compare to other models such as the T440?

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>>62027689

Usually I do a battery reset when I get a new ThinkPad, but on this one Lenovo Power Manager is reporting a maximum capacity that matches the label on the battery, should I even bother?

>>62042239
If that's all you need it for just get a T420.

>>62030522
I hate that
I have to use windows for certain programs and it took away my middle click + scrolling
it worked fine in Kubuntu but I need to use autodesk stuff
>install wine

>>62042119
budget?

>>62035264
Be a bro and delete his porn for him
( I would keep his memes though )

>>62042319
I am usually all about $300 refurbs, but I guess I can stretch up to $700 + something for the secondary drive.

>>62042295
I would, but I'd rather go with something a bit more lightweight/slimmer. Still, if I find a T420 with good specs for really cheap I might consider it

>>62041308
X220 with a 9 cell battery and a battery slice. Will literally give you 18-20 continuous hours.

>>62042418
x230 then

>>62042417
well almost everything relevant can take 2 drives because of mSATA and M.2

X220, X230, X240, X250, depending on what you can find and what other kind of specs you want

>>62042160
My T60 doesn't have that problem...

I need a thinkpad and fast. I'm contemplating the $240 refurbished t430 on amazon just because how fast I will get it. Is there a better solution?

I don't care about the shitty keyboard, going to use my tada68 anyway.

>>62042478
check your local classifieds

Any chance of using an X230 keyboard with an X220?

>>62035264
>>Like 8,000 porn images from /b/, /s/ and /hc/
that ain't much but shit son i bet some of those are unsauceables

>>62042501
filled with retards wanting $300+ for T420s.

Only decent listing is a T430S for $140

>>62035264
>not keeping the pics
coward

>>62042580
>T430s for $140
I'd take it.

>>62042580
If you don't care about upgrading the processor then take that 430s, sounds good.

>>62042467
>well almost everything relevant
But no X1s, right?
>X220, X230, X240, X250
Should have said, I need 14 inch screen minimum, preferably 1600x900. I work a lot, so small screens or shit resolution just isn't fun in the long run.

>>62042650
I think all generations of X1's can take either an mSATA or M.2 drive and a 2.5" drive

>>62042650
what about the t420s or t430s, you won't be able to upgrade the cpu but they come with the 1600x900 res already

>>62042699
shitty batteries

>>62042716
oh right

What USB can I buy for a bootable Windows 7? I want to be able to check/reset batteries more conveniently.

Is there any hope for Raven Ridge thinkpads?
Fags at r/thinkpad says it's imposible cause vPro, ME and "muh APUs aren't need"

>>62042686
Ah cool. then I might get that one.

>>62042699
Actually I have a T430s already. I thought it was around 2.5 KG 'cause I felt no major difference to my old T520. But now that I checked the specs I see that it is way lighter than 2.5. So now I have to find out why my back is still hurting...
Thx anons.

>>62042742
literally anything? 32gb USB 3.0 flash drives are <$20

you might have an easier time with a linux liveUSB + TLP though

>>62042821
Apparently it needs to be able to be read as a fixed drive or Windows won't boot right.

>tfw X230 has 10+ hours of battery life
wew
e
w

>>62042831
sounds like a pain, don't use windows for that

>>62042918
>T420 only got 6 hours
>turns out battery was defective and missing 19Wh

>>62041947
If you want a free system, yes.

You could also install coreboot on your t420 if you wanted to, and you could remove most of the nonfree BIOS code, using ME_Cleaner.

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>>62041676
I'm wondering does anyone really use freeDOS? Wtf is the purpose of this?