/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Vega Sux Edition

>>62010857
>>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high

I'm hitting 144fps on 1440 on most of my games. It would handle 144@1080 just fine for most titles except maybe witcher 3 or battlefrog 1.

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I need prices on 6GB GTX 1060s to drop down to a comfortable level.

I just need one.

>>62010857
ill ask again since old thread died shortly after I asked this
Is it possible to get a riser or something so that I could split my 16x pcie port into 2 8x?
Or ideally the 8x to 2 4x
I want to have my raid card and my nic in my server so I could test this graphics card and possibly getting a second raid card so I can start moving over to bigger than 2tb disks.

>>62010918
144@1080 is limited by CPU more than GPU.

Is the node 202 a bad SFF case?

>finished assembling new PC yesterday
>wanna do it again
fuck

>>62010980
I'm on a i7-6700k so I'm good on that. I'm just saying, the gpu can handle more on games that are available at the moment. It seems wrong to say that it can't handle 144@1440 on high/ultra because it can for even the worst optimized games.

>>62011028
Same here. Did a christmas/birthday build and only thing I've done is open it up to add a few more hard drives and clean it. I want to build a new one but I need to save for tuition and car insurance.

>>62011057
Even 1080ti can't do 144@1440 at ultra for the latest AAA games like Dude Sex: MD or RoTR.

Right now I've got a mishmash of three WD drives totaling 3.5TB

They're all years old and two are starting to make noise so I want to replace them all.

What's a good brand for 4TB drives that will see long term desktop use?

>>62011344
The bigger the disk the more prone to failure it is due to more mechanical moving parts. A 4TB HD is just a HD with 4 1TB platters in them. I suggest buying a 1TB platter HD and storing all your important shit on it and then getting a large multiple TB HD for general storage.

>>62011344
HGST

what noctua fans are the best?

>>62011441
The ones from Taiwan.

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Thoughts on the Zalman Z9 Neo case?

Is Toshiba HDD's good? I'm thinking about X300 4TB.

how do i choose a case? they all look decent

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>>62010857
I been researching through these parts for the past couple of days looking through reviews and compatibility.

And these are the parts I have assembled for a cheap/ budget $350-460 PC to used be for specifically for research and study purposes while listening to background music in my room.


Do I need a dedicated video card if I don't plan to play any video games any time soon on my computer?

I would like some feedback to save on cost or performance issues. I would also appreciates any recommendations for a mechanical keyboards or keyboard in general.

580 for $300, yes or no?

currently have 280x slapped into a new r5 1600 build

>>62011541
You don't need a sound card. You don't need a GPU. Get a G4560 or if you can afford it a G4600 and then use the iGPU. As for mech keyboards we have a /mkg/, you can ask them and they would give better advice than any of us could.

Currently have an i7-2600k. Would it be a bottleneck with a 1070/1080?

Thanks

>>62011565
No. That is overpriced as fuck. How much does a 1060 6GB cost in your area.

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>>62011574

>>62011565
580 is supposed to be like $200.

Wait for supply to improve.

>>62011585
And the 580? Reference or AiB>

>>62011531
Figure out your needs
Is your motherboard an mITX, mATX, or ATX? Does said motherboard have headers for front panel USB 3.0?
Do you want a window to see your components?
Do you want a shroud to hide the ugly power supply? Do you want to put a 2.5" SSD on display?
Do you have need for a 5.25" drive bay?
Do you have need for a front panel HDMI port (like for VR Gaming)?
Do you have a particular color combo you want?
Do you want tempered glass?
Do you want RGB integration?
Do you want good cable management?
And finally,
what's your budget? The vast majority of cases sold are $50 to $150, but there are some around $500

>>62011595
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/526131/ROG-ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMING/

>>62011605
Seem overpriced but if both 1060 6GB and 580 are overpriced, yeah why not.

>>62011568
Thanks for your input, I will look into trying the G4600.

So it wouldn't affect my computer performances, If i left off a sound/graphic card? I plan to mostly use Microsoft words/spreadsheet with 30 tab web browsing? Can I try installing dirt cheap video/sound cards if I find them to be compatible?

How much do NAS drives differ from normal hard drives? HGST is one so I'm wondering how much slower the real world performance will be.

>>62011660
Most modern motherboard come with good enough onboard sound. Try those first. 90% of the population would be okay with them. Otherwise just buy a USB DAC and run your audio through it.

>>62011675
NAS drives are rated for more read/write cycles and generally have longer warranties but as long as the speed rating is the same, there's no difference

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I may just be tired as fuck, but I sort of like this case.

>>62011713
It has all the fancy features while also not being overly flamboyant. It is a box. It is a $100 box. The $100 thing is the only part about it I dislike.

>>62011713
Look up the s340.
This sort of case looking like a dust magnet with the front grill being hard to clean.

>>62011779
Well yes, it is a dust magnet. Good ventilation means it will be a dust magnet. The issue with the solid face side opening cases is that, by every account I've heard that was honest, they sort of sacrifice cooling potential to look sleek.

>>62011541
Get h110 motherboard, it should be cheaper.

>>62011796
There are good cases with good ventilation that can be easily cleaned.`

>>62011822
Yeah, but they have a real proclivity for looking as fucky as humanly possible.

>>62010962
Fucking this. Just want it to be $250 again.

>>62011028
Is your cable management perfect?

Will an R5 1400 bottleneck an RX 580?

Why does cases with vertical GPU mounting have to be so expensive. It's not helped by having to buy riser cable separately raising the already hefty price.

>>62011907
No

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thoughts? I'm finishing up after selling a corsair cx PSU everyone told me to get rid of.
>tfw saved over 150 burgers waiting for price drops
feels good

>>62011915
Because it's a niche in a niche.

>>62011915
Anything niche is going to cost more. That is just basic S&D. There isn't many people who want to vertically mount their GPU.

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>>62011921
i swear to god i'm going to become an hero one of these days.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tn2Jr7

>>62011917
cool, thanks

I'm building a comp with a budget of roughly 1200 euros (frenchfag), i managed to save where I could (didn't take a dvd player as I saw I could use my soon to be ex-computer as a usb to install the OS)
I'm pretty much ready to order everything, but I have a few questions, should I put more money in and take an SSD, or is it not worth it ?
Also, since my build will be mostly for gaming and watching movies, Win10 looks like the only choice in the future. Is there a good way to prevent it from videotaping my genitals and sending it to the nsa ?

here's the link to my build (french site) https://www.topachat.com/pages/configomatic.php?c=JSVrLLDYnekbNBT4w12m5DGHP3fZi0HhT4HrDNI0BAE%3D

>>62011933
>G403
Make sure you get it from somewhere reputable. There are issues with mousewheel rattle. But aside from that it is solid.

>>62011923
>>62011928
Pretty much the options are to shell out big bucks for those cases or go mATX. Shame about X370 not having decent choice.

Are there any old-style beige boxes created anymore? Researching a new build but really don't want to get a riced up RGB pos rig or a 2cool4u all-black box

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Alright bros, my friend gave me this MSI GTX GeForce 1050 Ti, some corsair mouse and keyboard to help get me started building a gaming PC. I have $700 that I can spend, and now i need some help on what to look for and where to start

>>62011989
Black boxes... may actually have a tactical purpose. Black increases thermal conductivity.

>>62012017
>may actually have a tactical purpose
Just like how "techwear" is meant to be utilitarian, but really it's just fashion whoring. The difference in thermal conductivity would be negligible.

>>62012010
R1600
B350 mobo
Some RAM
HDD + SSD
PSU
Case

>>62011989
New ones? Not really, and if they do you'll pay a premium for it. Check Goodwill/thrift and ebay, just make sure they're not too old and can actually use ATX boards.

Building my first PC today, just wondering before I start.
I plan to set it out quickly outside the case to check everything's working, as has been suggested everywhere, but do I then ensure it's safe to touch afterwards and there's no static? As it's just had power running through it. Do I just need to leave it for a bit after turning off?

>>62011960
I'd recommend a gold-rated PSU, and yeah, I'd spring for an SSD, it's definitely worth it. You don't need a huge one, just get a 120gb if you're strapped for cash. Although an m.2 is super fancy and I'd rather have a 120gb m.2 2280 than a 500gb 2.5"

otherwise, your build's fine. As for windows 10, just dual boot and use linux for watching gay porn and only boot into windows 10 if you want to play vidyers

>>62012043
Bugger, dumpster diving it is then.

>>62012038
Fine. Here.

https://www.amazon.com/CABLES-UNLIMITED-ATX-CASE-CF-8502A-ATX-CASE/dp/B014GB4JYQ

>>62012048
>I plan to set it out quickly outside the case to check everything's working, as has been suggested everywhere
don't do this, this makes mustard gas

>>62012067
I mean, it's a total piece of shit. But then, most old computer cases were total pieces of shit.

>>62012067

Y'all Americans are lucky with your omnipresent internet store, the link is appreciated but I can't order from there.

>>62012058
thanks lad.

Wouldn't a vpn do the same thing for win10 ? dualbooting might be a bit too hard for me

t. retard

>>62012048
For static just have something kinda grounded and metal nearby and just give it a good fondle occasionally (your case usually works fine for this). Also don't put it together while standing on carpet while wearing socks, common sense type shit.

Zen 2 wen?

Did someone measured ryzen 1600x power consumption? I don't trust reviewers.

>>62012102
who knows? the reason windows10 is so spoopy is because you don't know what it's capable of. If you're concerned about it spying on you, you'd obviously want to use it as little as possible. You might even want seperate hard drives for your linux and win10 installations instead of on one partitioned drive, but that seems overkill

as for dualbooting, if you use something like ubuntu, it's the simplest shit. Just click next like any installer, then use the GUI and google if you need to troubleshoot or look up a terminal command. Once you install the multimedia shit like mpv and a music player, it's basically the same thing as windows. The hardest part for me was learning how permissions worked for usb drives but it took ~ a day of learning.

>>62012103
Thanks, I understand about avoiding static in general and have dealt with electronics before. I'm just concerned about running power through it to check it all works (before putting into case), then how I'd deal with the board directly after.

>>62012161
Oh, you can just go right ahead and pop it in, nothing to worry about. Just make sure it's not plugged in while you do it (or at least have the PSU unplugged).

>>62011960
>only storage space is a 5400rpm hdd
yes you need an ssd. even just a 250Gb for windows+your most played games is worth it.

>>62012010
what do you plan on doing with the pc and what screen are you using

>>62012209
>" help get me started building a gaming PC"
>a gaming PC

Did you even read it?

>>62012042
What do the R in R1600 and the B in B350 stand for?
>>62012209
A gaming pc

>>62012334
playing dota and playing total war are a lot different.

>>62012359
R = Ryzen
B350 = motherboard model

>>62012359
R == Ryzen, R1600 is just shorthand for Ryzen 1600.
Nobody knows what the B means

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What's the smallest pc I can build on my own?
I need to get some kind of htpc for my family, which will mostly be used for streaming movies/televion and and playing music.
I'm considering just getting one of those intel-nucs. Are they any good?

>>62012375
>>62012382
Gotcha thanks, I was looking at Motherboards and was wondering if there was a big difference between the MSI B350 Pc mate and the MSI B350 Tomahawk

>>62012010
r5 1600 + whatever b350 mobo you like is ~$300
PSU should be ~$75 for a gold rated 550-750W depending on modularity (shoot for at least semi-modular)
RAM is pricier at ~$130 for 16GB 3200, you have some flexibility here if you think 8gb is enough although that's like bare essentials nowadays.
A small ssd + 1tb HDD is about $120
Now pick a case you like and suck a dick for a monitor

>>62012422
Slight. Based on the same model with different makers and thus quality.

>>62012411
>smallest
pi zero

>>62012411
yes but they're a bit overpriced.

>>62010967
lanes/slots are not the same
if you want to run 2 devices of the same slot, then I think that could work? from what ive read before a lot of it depends on mobo/cpu and the way the chipset handles lanes, etc
but just look on aliexpress for pcie lane spliters, that way if it doesnt work you're only out like 10-20 bucks

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>>62012447
>htpc on a pi zero

i would like to get an nvme drive as a scratch disk, however I dont really know where to start with these new fast as your ass SSDs
why is the samsung 960 evo seemingly the fastest but also cheaper than other options like the patriot hellfire or ocz rd400? is there a reason to consider another? what one would be best?
I was considering going with the rd400, but now im not sure

>>62012445
So what would you choose?

>>62012447
>>62012481
Thanks, but it doesn't really have to be that small. The nuc is small enough.
But is a pi powerful enough to run movies on a 1080p screen?
If not, is it possible to build something myself (a "real" pc), which isn't a lot larger than the nuc?
Otherwise I'll just get the i3-nuc, and grab some cheap ram + some m2 drive.

>>62012422
PC mate is cheaper because it doesn't have some bullshits lights and apparently the capacitors are maybe slightly cheaper.
I went for the PC mate, as they're essentially the same board, depends what you prefer looks wise.

>>62012515
just go with the nuc
by going with a super small pc like that you'll pay more, and have something that is incredibly over powered for what it needs to be
you can look at other options to the nuc though, i know gigabyte has something like that, so does asrock iirc, and im sure others do. Hell even a compute stick might do what you need

>>62012201
Should I drain the power via the power button a few times (unplugged) to ensure there's nothing left in the board?

>>62012515
it's not about the resolution, it's about the encoding, and the pi family is NOT powerful enough to decode dick

>>62012509
Read the features and see what you need.

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>>62010857
>G4560
>Poverty tier builds
The G4560 costs $100 at Newegg right now, replace it with the AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs. They're cheaper, quad cores, are overclockable, have better iGPUs and have a much better upgrade path.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G65B8012

>>62012541
If it makes you feel better, sure. Won't hurt anything.

>>62012559
woah woah woah
when the fuck did these drop? how did i miss that?
im inclined to agree here holy shit, there should be no reason to get a fucking pentium now
>4 cores to 2
>no upgrade path
>costs more
>motherboards also cost more

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>>62010857
>want to use 4k for my new 1080ti
>buy a new monitor
>literally every single website is so fucking tiny and only takes up 25% of the screen
>when i zoom stuff it looks fucking horrid and apparantly anti aliasing isnt a thing for webbrowsers
tfw #buyersremorse

>>62012541
It doesn't matter you pussy. The big fuss about static is discharge from YOU transferring electrons to the circuitry. There's nothing to worry about if electrons flow into you (skin doesn't conduct very well)

at the worst, it might be warm. It probably won't be. But if you feel you need to draw a hexagram and spin around 3 times before touching it, by all means

>>62012528
AFAIK the other "tiny-pc" all aim for the gaming crowd, which I don't really need here. I'll look into it. The compute stick might be interesting.
>>62012544
Was afraid so. Thanks.

>>62012583
>>62012559
This has been exist since last month, I surprised why /g/ never talk about it before but still talking as if G4560 was intel last hope for current gen.

>>62012583
AMD haven't exactly made a big fuzz about them since they're just Bulldozer CPUs remade for the AM4 platform but they're still worth buying over any Intel Pentium or i3 offering simply because they're cheaper and have a better upgrade path.

>>62012597
They've only existed in prebuilt machines, they haven't been availble to buy separately until now.

>>62012597
Because they are fucking hot garbage based on Bulldozer.

>>62012587
1 - what size is your monitor, if it's less than 28" you deserve what you got
2 - what is window scaling
if your screen is bigger than 28 and you have these issues either get better fucking eyes, use 150-200% scaling in windows, or get an OS that can properly scale
source: my ass that has a 30" monitor with a 1080 ti and no ragerts

>>62012623
It is a shit, but still a better purchased than current overpriced and dead socket G4560.
I thought /pcbg/ is about smart buying.

>>62012597
>>62012615
>>62012623
hmm, that means its basically a fx-4300, but honestly for "poverty" tier i would take saving 20-30 for lower performance, with the idea you can upgrade later to even a 1200
people seriously forget the value of an upgrade path to people really strapped for money, its a lot easier to upgrade one part at a time than step everything up all at once

>>62012623
If performance is your main concern then you probably shouldn't be looking at buying Pentium CPUs in the first place, retard. If you have such a tight budget to spend on a PC then your main concern should be to spend as little as possible while having a decent upgrade path available down the line.

>>62012623
>A cheaper CPU has worse performance than a more expensive CPU
Stop the fucking presses

>>62011602

Not him, but also looking for a case, so in order:

>mITX
>don't care
>don't care
>yes
>no
>no
>don't care
>no
>yes

I just want it to be compact and well made, capable of housing ATX psu and Zotac 1080ti mini. Budget is around $200 for the case.

(and no, I can't get Ncase, it takes forever and is too much hassle to get it here)

>>62012726
not trying to spoonfeed, look at silverstone, lian li and jonsobo, maybe the fractal define s nano, or something from corsair
if you want spoonfeed i guess we can do that too

R3 1200 now or wait for i3-8100?

Also, XG2401 or XG2530? Is 240Hz worth 50% extra cost? The XG2401 also has better image quality (800:1 CR on the 2530 vs 1200:1 CR on the 2401) which makes me lean towards it a bit more.

>>62012559
>Sold by ANTONLINE
Well, that's a name that brings me back to my AOL days.

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>they said it would be $499 msrp
>Saved a little over $500 to purchase Vega
>Skipped out on meals just to be able to buy it
>awake all night to purchase vega the moment it drops
>the one listing of $499 sells out instantaneously
>13 other listings at $599
>dont have enough money
>watch them sell out for the next 10 minutes

Just bought this ti on new eggs. i wonder how many customers amd lost.

>>62012770
If you don't plan on upgrading for the next 5 years to 7nm and trust intel, sure wait for the i3-8100.

>>62012782
>buying a vega over 1080ti
you do know that everyone on /g/ never are serious about buying an AMD videocard right?
the only good cards AMD ever brought out were tahiti

>>62012807
pitcairn was fucking solid as fuck my nigga

>tfw 1450mhz 7850

>>62012782
Good taste anon. AMD really screwed the pooch with Vega. So much so that even reviewers are turning against them.

shit retailers actually did increase the price for vega
i got it before the increase, thankfully

>>62012807
i liked my 3600

>>62012830
>Thankfully
>This moron is thankful he got scammed by AMD
Hotter
Louder
More expensive
Lousier

>>62012807
I don't know what my problem is but I can't help but keep buying AMD cards. The last Nvidia card I owned was a 6800GT.

>>62012770
get yo self a 1200. even if the i3 is better, the mobo will cost more, especially if you want to overclock, and you'll get a max of 2 years out of the socket, meaning a max of 4 maybe 5 years useful service out of it, assuming you upgrade to an i5 the last generation on the new socket
on the 1200 you get a socket supported until 2021+ CONFIRMED by mama su, at which point you can pop in the latest and greatest from amd, and at that point probably be set for 4-5 years.
>tl;dr
1200 = upgrade path through 2021, useful system through 2025+
i3 = slightly better performance, upgrade path through 2019, useful system through 2023-2024
>>62012817
>1450mhz
god damn nigga thats some hot shit. my old 7870 would only ever pull 1330

are nvidia drivers as snazzy as the AMD ones yet? going to switch to a 1070 soon

>>62012850
pitcairn pro overclocked better than pitcairn XT for some reason, you'd think the chips that were too defective to become a 7870 would also be worse overall bins, but nah.

>>62012840
is that the new daft punk song?

>>62012807
i would have been ok with high wattage and 1080 level performance for the same price. i really liked amd
>>62012818
they did, i didnt say much of it in my post but ive been pretty angry over the whole amd garbage launch

>>62012862
Yes. Only Vega can come up with stuff as hot as Daft Punk

>>62012858
coming from amd to nvidia, i can say no
there are a lot of features i miss, and the control panel for nvidia isnt nearly as nice as crimson, feels more like the old catalyst driver control panel
that said, performance difference is noticable, specifically sli vs crossfire. I never believed the memes but i do now

>>62012807
>you do know that everyone on /g/ never are serious about buying an AMD videocard right?
Explain this >>62012830

>>62012896
shills

what's the absolute GOAT monitor currently for high end gaming on a 1080Ti?

>>62012908
PG279Q

>>62012840
>>62012807
>>62012896
>>62012904
drivercucks

>>62012932
t. Shill

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canadianfag here looking to buy this pc here: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8

my question is can i upgrade my old computer (pic related) to a computer that can do twitch and youtube streams and constant video editing? or is it better i just buy 2 of each from my https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8

>>62012915
>not XG2703

asus is a mountain dew dorito monster gaymer faggot brand with inferior QC and color calibration

>>62012958
That build is due for a complete upgrade friend. The only re-usable stuff is the PSU and HDD.

>>62010857
>R3 1300x
stopped reading there

>>62012958
definitely need an upgrade my dude
if streaming/video editing is your gig, depending on your budget you have a lot of options my friend, for a single tower or dual pc setup. give us a budget and ill help you out

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Hi guys,

Looking to build a Threadripper gaming/coding rig here. Any suggestions or recommendations?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/C2zQJV

>>62012972
>>62012987
thanks. budget around 1500 canadian.

>>62013021
Plenty of cash for a good upgrade. Go read the OP and build a skeleton. We can give you recs after.

>>62013004
>threadripper
>gaming/coding
you can code on a fucking potato, as for gaming x299 would serve you better if you want to piss your money away, but better off going with something like a r5 1600

>>62013004
best performance in that case would be a 1700 as the capture/render rig and a 1600 as the main gaming pc, with b350 motherboards as the base
for other stuff you're more on your own, i'll make a pcp link with freedom bucks but idk what prices are in maple syrup land

>>62013058
Haha yeah I know, but I usually have a few VMs going at once to test so figured the extra performance there would be nice.

>>62013087
with few VMs R7 is certainly going to be enough. R5 for higher frames in gaymes though.

>>62013066
>>62013021
main rig
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7B4cpb
capture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6mwsJ
some notes:
if you can, buy a used gpu for the love of god. a 980ti for around 300-350 is a steal for the performance and will save you a lot over a 1070
if you want to save some more, you can go with a 1200 over a 1600 for the gaming computer, just know you will lose SOME performance
you could reuse case, save some there. I picked a average middle of the road case for the main rig
you'll need to reuse your video card for the capture rig, it wont do anything except supply video though. could also reuse psu for this one depending on wattage
could reuse hdd for capture rig or main rig as well
this doesnt include a capture card, which you dont need if you're not retarded

Is it normal that when I turn on my computer the gpu fans roar at 100% for about 5 seconds and then the pc turns on normally(and the fans go normal)?

It's an old gtx210 that I'm using on a new build until 1070 prices drop. It did it before but for shorter (2-3 seconds), never found out if it was normal or not the 8 years I had it.

>>62013181
that is normal
also next time put that kind of question in the /sqt/

>>62013181
When you start up your computer the fan controllers aren't yet 'controlling' anything.. They just start up on full rev and slow down afterwards as your OS boots.

>>62013203
>>62013205

Thanks guys

>also next time put that kind of question in the /sqt/

ooops had both tabs open

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FmBkM8
can you guys take a look at this?
will be used for general computing, video encoding/editing, virtual machines, audio recording/producing, and some light gaming
did I miss anything? anything I should change? 980 ti is mostly a placeholder, ill take the best I can get used for 350 or lower, not buying new in this price range with the crypto mining going on

Remember the stuff AMD said about Fury X?

"you gonna be able to overclock this thing like no tomorrow"..."this is an overclockers dream"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-qKucpQu8&t=2973

>>62013375
Looks fine to me. Even with a used 980Ti. It'll do until stock returns and you can get a good AMD card.
>but Nvidia is
just another company. Nvidia has a long history of fucking over consumers as well (Just like Intel), where AMD doesn't. Use the 980Ti until you can maybe get ahold of an RX Vega 56 AIB card

>>62013417
in their defense, you kinda could after you bios modded the living shit out of it. i was able to get my fury x to around 1230-1250 depending on the application after upping power limit and pushing incredible amounts of voltage
but face value and especially at launch with locked voltage, it was an overclockers nightmare

>>62013440
way i see it, if i buy used not a cent goes to pork shoulders, so no skin off my ass
id rather amd literally just for the drivers/freesync, but what can you do

>>62013375
looks the same as every gayming build here. for your usage r7 1700 and more ram would be better but it's a solid build.
i would get at least 250gb ssd. also when buying hitachi hdds make sure you're not getting refurbished. "hitachi is the best" is just a meme so you can always buy toshiba/seagate.

>>62013440
why he should care? used 980ti for $350 is a great deal and vega is not worth buying at all.

>>62013456
i was considering upping to 16gb already, will make the switch. is the difference in the 1700 really noticeable? if i switch to that ill need to drop the video card to something like a 970 or 290, which i dont mind, but still

>>62013456
>why he should care?
because by next year, the 980Ti will be virtually unuseable in modern games. meanwhile, the AMD competitor cards will still be relevent

>>62013489
>because by next year, the 980Ti will be virtually unuseable in modern games
is this what amd cucks actually believe? 980ti is basically gtx 1070 performance-wise. there's no way it's going to be unusable next year. why would that happen?

>>62013480
since you said you do video encoding and VMs then yes it would make more sense. do you need a 980ti for just 'light gaming'?

>>62013489
>virtually unusable
fucking what

>>62013539
>>62013530
he's exaggerating, but nvidia has a history of cucking their older cards' performance with driver updates.

>>62013530
>for light gaming
you know, that's fair. the real reason i threw it on there was for the main game i play. I love witcher 3 and that game loves gpu horsepower, id love to just be able to crank it up and enjoy the view, but im sure a 970/290/etc will do just fine, and the faster encode times will matter a lot more

>>62013546
you know, ive heard this over and over and ive honestly tried to find links showing a trend in performance, not per driver, and not a single game but the average and i cant
hell, hardware unboxed did a video comparing the golden fine wine card (7970) to the 680 and they were still neck and neck after 5 years

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qzhTyf
Thoughts on this part list? Mainly going to be using this for gaming along with some video editing / rendering and overall multitasking. Is the R7 1700 worth it or should I go down to an R5 1600?
From what I've read the R7 1700 is not the best for gaming but it's better than stuff like the i7-7700k in just about anything else. Not sure how true that is though.
I was also considering a similar build with an i7-7700k but that ends up way more expensive, plus I don't want to give money to the intel jews.
Also I will be using this with the 850 evo SSD in my existing build

>>62013571
dropping to the 1600 would save you some money, cost you virtually nothing in your main task, i would go for it. in gaming the 1600 is on par with the 1700, and it still beats the 7700k in multitasking like video editing, etc
also, avoid that motherboard and all asus b350 like the plague. go with msi for b350, better vrm, better success with ram

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>>62011811
Is this any better? I want to make sure to build a cheap but viable PC for work/studying.

>>62013571
mainly gaming -> r5 1600
mainly video editing / rendering -> r7 1700
good build but that monitor is garbage. get Viewsonic XG2401 or LG 24GM77

>>62013614
>windows 10
Why?

>>62013591
to be fair asus b350 prime plus has better VRMs than msi. i'd go for asrock myself though.

>>62013569
The 7970, as great as it is, is held back by vram. The R9 290 and R9 390, basically rebrands of the 7970, outperform the equivalent 780 and 780Ti

>>62013655
>better vrm than msi
fucking what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

>>62013660
thats interesting, what about like the sapphire toxic 6gb cards? how are they holding up then, since vram is a non issue

>>62013684
don't buy MSI mobos, go for a gigabyte/asus mobo.

t. MSI m/b owner, ex gigabyte m/b owner.

>>62013684
did you actually watch the video?
literally proves my point

>>62013712
fuck, i misheard the man
just go with asrock
im drunk im done for the night boys

>>62013591
Thanks, I did some googling and yeah it does seem the 1600 is much better value than the 1600x or the 1700.

>>62013655
>>62013712
>>62013711
>>62013712
So what motherboard should I buy? When I originally put the build the build together after some googling it seemed like that motherboard (asus b350) had the least bios problems or whatever, or is that just not a thing anymore?
When you guys say to get the asrock, you mean the Asrock AB350 Pro4 or what?

>>62013633
Thanks for the monitor advice, was hoping someone would comment on that.

Im looking for a build that can run Overwatch/Rainbow Six Siege/ dota 2 at 144hz medium-high settings. Budget is 1500$ and I already have the monitor

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Okay mi familia, fuck my shit up. All this is ordered and should arrive this week so it's too late to change things. Try to ignore my buying Windows if it triggers you.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6B3Yjc

>>62013816
that's a nice fucking build. you should get an aftermarket cooler for that cpu and oc to 4ghz.

>>62013783
MSI has literary 0 after market support, just some pajeets at the support centre that are useful only for sucking their own dicks.

Asus/Gigabyte are the most durable M/Bs.

>inb4 post proofs
There was a graph with M/B RMA %s. Those 2 companies had the lowest number, plus, my old gigabyte M/B was abused pretty hard, and it still works. Also, I am typing this from a system that has a 10 y.o. ASUS C2D M/B.

Post your m/b budget, may be able to help you.

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>>62013816
>he didn't buy the S340 Elite
>he paid 128$ for Windows instead of 20$ on Kinguin

lmaoing @ ur lyff

>>62013908
>he pays for windows

>>62013816
Literally why are you buing windows? Why?

>>62013798
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6XG96X
that'll do it

>>62013897
I don't have a very strict budget but I'd rather not spend above £150 on a M/B unless it's absolutely necessary for some reason.

>>62013927
I don't but if he wanted to pay (i.e. get cucked) that's the best alternative.

>>62013954
Could you link me a couple of places that you'd be willing to buy stuff from?

>>62013816
>cpu/mobo
nice
>ram
doesnt match but nice
>case
godawful color version but solid
>gpu
solid choice
>psu
solid choice
>nvme drive for booting
FUCK you were doing good, should have saved the money and gone with a sata based m.2 512gb
>3tb seagate
i buy that seagates have the highest failure rate, and i buy that 3tb drives are less relaible than 2tb or 4tb, but that seems to be an acceptable price so ok
you're confirmed colorblind since you could have gotten the white trident z and case and had an incredible looking build, but the hardware choices are all good, nice job anon
>those fucking kangaroobuck prices

>>62013692
They're doing better than comparable Nvidia cards. Unfortunately gamers tend to have a hive-mind and tend to be brand loyal, so sometimes finding old AMD cards can be a pain in the ass regardless of whether or not they're better than the equivalent Nvidia card

>>62013939

cheers lad

>>62013158
thank you for this. i stepped away from the thread. i appreciate it.

>>62013966
https://www.amazon.co.uk obviously
https://www.aria.co.uk
http://www.ebuyer.com/
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/

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FLASH NEWS
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Coffee Lake (Intel 8th Gen CPUs) will require 300 series Motherboards. Intel jews strike once again.

>>62014099
who could have saw it coming

>>62014106
a few months ago no one believed me on /pcbg/ when i said intel will do this.

>>62014095
give me a moment

>>62014138
I don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they decided that the new chips won't be supported on 100/200 series chipsets.

Nevertheless, they will be punished.

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to that retard who kept hijacking /pcbg/ threads a few months ago: i told you.

Should I pair a Ryzen 5 1600 with a 1050ti? I'm on a budget but I need the cores for mix use/video editing.
I know I want a 1600, but can I go around with a 1050ti just fine? Does it have any compatibility problem?

>>62014185
it's absolutely fine. good choice too, considering the current gpu prices.

Acer XB270HU OR ViewSonic XG2703-GS

>>62014235
ViewSonic XG2703-GS, easily

Are the new intel cpus announced yet?

>>62014252
thanks senpai, gonna order now

>>62014191
thanks pal

>>62014095
>If you want to save a few bucks to spend it on an other component tier:
Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 (built a system for a friend with this M/B, pretty good if you are only interested in basic stuff, and a modest OC)

Gigabyte AB350M-HD3 (basically the same without the gaymen stuff, lacks the VRM heatsink though that the other one has)

Asus Prime B350 Plus (same but ATX)

>Full retard gaymen tier (posting this in case you want something in these looks, basically an overpriced B350 board with VRM cooling)
Asus Rog Strix B350-F Gaming

>X370 tier (if you want multi-GPU support, and prolly better OC potential)

Gigabyte AX370-Gaming K3
Gigabyte AX370-Gaming K5 (same, pretty much a orange version of the previous one with more I/O)

Asus Prime X370 Pro (basically what I'd buy if it fitted my autistic colour scheme, don't buy if you want a M/B that does just the basic stuff and you aren't interested in either multi GPU support or pushing your OC further than a average B350 board can do).

Hope I was helpful. Couldn't check the pricing at your area though, sorry for being a retard and asking for places you'd be willing to buy them from.

>>62014255
they were announced today
they won't be compatible with 100/200 series boards though bc muh shekels

>>62013816
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6B3Yjc
>$422 for a $300 processor

>>62014276
No problem, and thanks a lot for the help, appreciate it.

>>62014287
Are they better than ryzen? or we dont know yet

>>62014305
nothing ground breaking tbqh, even without seeing any benchmarks. but sure as hell they are gonna consume more power than their ryzen counterparts.

>inb4 muh single thread performance

are you considering building a new system?

>>62014276
>asus/gigashit
any reason why you didn't include asrock? i was under impression ab350m pro4 is the best price/perf mobo with decent VRM and build quality. i saw people mostly shitting on gigabyte b350 gaming 3 in every /pcbg/ thread where it has been mentioned. i say this as gigabyte mobo owner for 8+ years.

>>62014305
bait for wenchmarks. coffee lake desktop comes in autumn.

>>62014305
Its the same old architecture with added two cores just to counter ryzen sale.
There's literally nothing new tech wise.

>>62014323
Yes im going to build a ryzen 1600 systen should i wait for jewtel?

>>62013816
hope you checked ram compatability other than that i bought windows as well my friend nothing wrong with getting A GENUINE WINDOWS KEY

>>62014344
yes, wait and then decide what's better for you, maybe if the 1600 is slower it will get cheaper

>>62014344
1600 is a solid choice.
If you wait for jewtel to make their move, your gonna have to pay for a k series chip, if you want to OC, not to mention the Z series M/B.

Go for it senpai, just remember to buy some high speed ram, ryzen loves it.

>>62014301
Just a final note, if you want anything more than just a M/B to make your system run, opt for the Asus Prime B350 Plus or the Asus Prime X370 Pro if you're willing to spend a bit more.

>>62014323
>>62014336
if rumours are true 8th gen will cost the same as kaby lake, so 8600k might cost ~$230 and offer performance better than 7700k since 6c/6t > 4c/8t. in either way i'm happy there's finally some competition.

>>62014379
they will never learn, will they?

>>62014371
>>62014374
I think im going for it because amd doesnt switch sockets like underwear so i can keep the mobo for longer and just upgrade the cpu (correct me if im wrong).

>>62014374
Yeah I had the Asus Prime B350 Plus on my original post here but people started telling me to get Asrock, looks like I'm sticking with the B350 Plus unless someone gives me a valid reason to go for Asrock.

>>62014396
You are correct. AM4 will support both the zen based APUs and the Zen+ or Zen 2 or whatever they're called chips.

>>62014397
The Asus Prime B350 Plus is a solid choice.

Hhas anyone in this board actually bought an X299 platform or people just meme-ing?

Should I get an SSD? And would I benefit from maxing out my RAM capacity? My cap is 16GB btw
>i5 2400
>MSi GTX 1050 Ti
>14GB DDR3
>1TB WD Cav Blue

>>62014269
When the market returns to normal, you can grab an RX 570 and sell the 1050Ti to someone doing a budget build

>>62014474
yes
no

>>62014474
Do you even use your 14GBs or RAM?
An SSD would improve load times/system responsiveness. Worth it if you don't have one.

>>62014471
No one except Intel fanboys are even touching X299 because of all the problems.
The CPUs run ridiculously hot necessitating custom water cooling. AIO water cooling won't cut it.
And everything is massively overpriced for the performance you do get, especially compared to AMD Ryzen Threadripper and the X399 platform

>>62014500
I nearly peg it 100% when playing FiveM. I have a buddy who has 64GB in his system an he only uses like, 15%. Granted he has literally nothing on his machine because he swaps out the hardrives all the time

Can a 1060 6gb maintain 144hz in competitive games overwatch/rainbos six or other esport crap?

Can someone recommend a 1080p/144hz monitor?

>>62011488
bump for thoughts

>>62014597
My GT640 could do that. Just need to crank down the settings.

>>62014597
yes. you might need to turn some settings down in r6s though.

>>62014638
Viewsonic XG2401 / LG 24GM77
reference: wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/15713-best-144hz-240hz-monitors.html#post1357728

>>62014597
at 1080p, of course. overwatch on highest settings probably, rainbow six probably not on highest.

>>62014649
it looks good

Hi anons,
I've just finished a new built but things aren't going weel.

I've recetly purchased a Ryzen 7 1700, an msi x370 Gaming pro Carbon, a Sm
amsung ssd 960 evo (m.2) and 32GB of ram (Corsair CMK32GX4M4B3200C16). Everything is powered up through a 850W enermax Revolution 87+ PSU and I'm using an old GeForce 8400 as vga (it's just an old graphic card I use for testing: currently I'm waiting for vga prices to cool down).

Last saturday I've put everything together but my system won't post. My mobo has some debug lights and currently the "boot fail" light stays on and screen remains black. Before that, the cpu light was on, which means that cpu has not been detected or failed.

I've tried anything, including removing the vga and try using just one stick of ram but system still won't post. I assume mobo is not DOA since it beeps when there's no ram but I can't understand what's wrong.

According to msi compatibility section, this cpu and this mb should be working together since the first version of the bios.

Can you please help me, anons?

Stupid question but how important is it to have all your monitors 144Hz? Currently I'm using a ratchet multi monitor setup where all of them are 60Hz but I'm considering getting a 144Hz one.
Would it be eye cancer to mix it with the other ones even if the other ones aren't going to be running 3D Applications?

>>62014720
Try reseating the CPU? Thats my guess. Make sure all cables are plugged in, and yeah thats all I got

>>62014481
that was the idea. I've been waiting for the markets to stabilize for months, but it seems we'll be having this ethereum/cryptocoin craze for a while

going for a super budget build, is a 1050 Ti worth it over a 1050? for games at 1080 60hz. i'm assuming the 2gb vs 4gb ram may actually be the limiting factor.

>>62014720
RAM on the QVL?

>>62014752

Sadly I have already tried that with no success. I've double checked cpu positioning and all pins. Nothing bent, broken or damaged, I've plugged everything like it should be but still no post.

Thank you anyway, anon.

>>62014772
Yea. in my case, I'm looking at an RX 560 just to tide me over, an when the market stabilized grab a Sapphire RX 570 and put the RX 560 in my dad's PC to replace his R9 360 2GB

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pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbYkM8
Should I just wait for next year when the 8 series cpus are out?

>>62014840

Yes, it is, anon. The x370 Gaming pro Carbon also has a dedicated debug led for ram failures or in case the sticks are not detected. It's the only debug led that never turned on (excepts when I tried running the system without ram).

>>62014875
Probably a failed motherboard then.

whats the absolute cheapest ATX PSU i can get thats at least 250W and bronze certified? I really dont need a lot of power.

so coffee lake better than ryzen?

>>62015065
we won't know until november at the latest

>>62015065
according to pcpartpicker it's;
Corsair CX450M for a semi modular $26.99
SeaSonic M12II 520 for a full modular $35.89

>>62015106
>according to pcpartpicker it's;
Corsair CX450M for a semi modular $26.99
SeaSonic M12II 520 for a full modular $35.89
meant for
>>62015052

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>>62014872
>buying Intel
not until they can come up with a completely new architecture that isn't such a fire hazard

>>62015120
>not until they can come up with a completely new architecture that isn't such a fire hazard
So just go for the 7700k now instead of waiting for the 8700k?

>>62015158
why not get a 1700 instead

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>>62015158
still a fire hazard. Just get an AMD Ryzen chip instead on a B350 motherboard. It's less likely to catch your house on fire considering they rarely go above 60°, meanwhile, Intel chips will routinely peg at 100°. Both of those are in Celsius, not Fahrenheit.

>>62015116
>mail in rebate
yeah no if i had the extra 20 bucks to begin with i wouldn't be searching for the cheapest PSU

>>62015198
>>62015200
I have an r5 1500. I'm going to turn that into a server, and have the i7 for games, and as my main desktop.
>>62015203
Mail in rebate just showed up. I'm getting the majority of parts from somewhere else. i put the build on pcpartpicker to show parts.

>>62015249
why do you want to buy a fire hazard

I have 2 500 GB Samsung 950 Pros, 1 500 GB m2.0 960 and 1 1TB WD HD. Should I install my OS on the 960 or the 950? I've heard that it's generally good to install games/programs NOT on your OS drive... So maybe I should put the OS on the 950 and gaymes and other shit on the 960? Or the other way around?

>>62015283
I want to play certain games that my 1500x struggles on.

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>Kaby Lake R

2x4Gb or 1x8Gb with a R1200? I can only afford 8Gb at the moment, is it better to leave an easy upgrade path or should I just try to use the dual channel right away?

>>62015303
Use the M.2 as your boot drive

>>62015203
nevermind i see what you meant. i just check pcparts for prices. Sorry that I couldn't help you.

>>62015326
buy a 1700 and OC it?

How does one get genuine Windows 10 without paying the full price?

>>62015380
I don't want a 1700 man. I have a 1500x oced, and it will game the same as a 1700.

>>62015406
Buy a System Builder copy off ebay
I got mine for $40

>>62015407
If you're looking for more game perf then obv you'll want Intel. At this point in time I would definitely not get a 7700K anymore though, just wait for the 8700K if you want it that badly (also don't forget to delid).

>>62015439
>having to delid your cpu to get it to run right

>>62015406
Grey market or student keys. For gayms I would not use grey market sites, but if people do chargebacks for M$ I won't care.

For Win10 I can highly recommend LTSB if you don't require the stuff it doesn't have.

>>62015407
do you really think that a 1700 is a bottleneck?

>>62015461
Such is life, but if the man wants his gayming perf that much, he'll delid it

>>62015439
Do you work for amd?

>>62015495
>recommends Intel
Gee, what do you think?

>>62015488
I'm convinced that the 1700 on't outperform my 1500x in games, and that I'd rather use my 1500x for my tv tuners.

>>62015515
post monitor resolution & what graphics card are you using

>>62015512
>keeps forcing a 1700, and begrudgingly offers to wait on an intel product.
Gee what should I think.

>>62015532
pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbYkM8
here's the list with monitor.

>>62015540
2 entirely different people

>>62015567
>same callcenter

>>62015540
>forcing
How poor you, you are forced to buy what people say on the internet!
He said that if you want gayming, go for Intel, but the kaby lake platform it's already dead so you should get the more recent one.
Oh wait, that's also dead already.

>>62015589
Fuck the sand niggers just clocked in. Thread is fucked.

>>62015546
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3009-amd-r7-1700-vs-i7-7700k-144hz-gaming

it looses to the 7700k for roughly 5-7 fps, and you're still withing playable++ fps. at 1440p, with the 1700 you get the potential to do other things while gayming (e.g. streaming), plus you don't get a housefire that needs delidding.

t. 6700k owner

>>62015580
You do you

Motherboard is supposed to arrive today and hopefully I can start building , any tips?

>>62011488
>>62014649
I considered getting this case, but it did not come with enough dust filters and the rear expansion slots are stamped.

>>62015606
Sorry, I won't recommend you an Intel cpu anymore. I swear.

How's this?
Should I change anything?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BPPZYr

>>62013614
You should get more than one stick of ram. Also if you are a University student you can get Windows for free.

If you are willing to WAIT, AMD's raven ridge processor's should come out later this year and provide better performance and provide you with a upgrade path, if you choose to do so in the future.

>>62015610
pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbYkM8

There's a warthog listed. Anon is going for a specific build for a reason. Probably plays autismo sims, so suggesting a r7 1700 when anon has experience with a r5 1500x probably isn't the best.

>>62015653
>buys RGB gaymen RAM
>doesn't buy a case with a side panel window

Also:
>MSI M/B

>>62015624
assemble cpu, cooler and ram outside the case.
start thinking about the cable management before putting anything in the case, you'll save yourself some hassle.

>>62015684
w-what's a good mobo then?

>>62015708
In what is he supposed to put the ram in without a mobo? His dickhole? Or you mean actual assemble, as in manufacturing process?

> ordered a new monitor on friday
> won't be here until this friday
> 7 days
why is this allowed

>>62015673
I am assuming you mean some of the Sims games or whatever. Why sacrifice everything that the 1700 has to offer for the extra fps that won't matter anyway with a 7700k?

I had a 3rd gen i3. After 4 years of everday office work usage, temps got worse, and it idles at 40-44C at a room temp of about 22-26.
Why get a 7700k whose temps will get worse and worse instead of a soldered 1700?

>>62015733
see>>62014276
Basically either a Asus Prime B350 Plus or if you want to spend some more, get the Asus Prime X370 Pro.

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>>62014099
>"Ya muthabawds a yeaa old, goy, time to upgrade"

>>62015766
Old simulator games give up a huge percentage on amd. This is why anon wanted an i7-7700k for a daily driver. The difference makes a game playable, or not. Any other person could get by with an r5-1500x-r7-1800.

>>62013648
What type of OS should I get if I just want to get by with office work and studying?

>>62016240
his point is that you shouldn't buy it, at least not for $100.

>>62016217
Why not buying the console itself? Probably costs magnitudes less than a gaming pc.

>>62016346
not him, but you then have to buy games, as well as the fact that you're limited to one console then, as opposed to the pc where you can do anything you want, as well as pc stuff
also, emulators allow easier recording of gameplay, streaming, higher settings, etc. all in all often a better experience

>>62016368
But there's one emulator that needs the higher clocks, not all of them. Also good luck with recording the games and stuff on a cpu that is not good for multitasking.

>>62014183
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH

If I intend to have a multimonitor setup should I be looking for a card with two of the same port if I intend to game on one monitor only, no crazy stuff?

>>62016430
>buying a cpu specifically for single threaded performance
>single thread
>1
>3 cores, 7 threads left to record
...

>>62016240
Windows 10, but buy a code off ebay for $5

Good $500 build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kMPpcc

>>62016712
>16GB ram
>520w psu but it's seasonic
That's actually money well spent, for a B350 setup.

>>62016712
instead of spending 134$ on RAM get a cheaper 8 kit at around 3k-3.2k MHz instead.

>Ohhey it's another should I upgrade this post

AMD FX 8350
R9 270X
8GB RAM

Was it a good idea to upgrade to 16GB first? Should I go for the GPU after that? I can't buy a RX card because their price almost doubled in Europe

>>62016813
do you even used the full 8GBs in order to make sense to buy more RAM?

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>>62016813
I'd get 16GB of 1866 or 2133 if you're on 1600, I'm getting 1866 for mine when I get the money.

>>62016486
I hope you don't actually believe that.

>>62016828
Yes, I recently got problems with it when games like PUBG and Battlefield 1 completely maxed it out, even on low settings

How do I get a free copy of windows? Do I just pirate win8.1 and upgrade to win10 through the program? I really don't want to spend 100 bucks on windows

>>62016847
PUBG optimazation is completetly shit, Niggerfield 1 sucks up as much CPU as it can, so maybe you should consider upgrading in the near future pretty much everything.

>>62016848
There are shit tons of ways to get it for free

There are multiple activators like AutoKMS, ReLo or Microsoft Toolkit if you want to go that route. As far as I know the trick to still upgrade to Win10 for free doesn't work anymore.

If you don't want to pirate you can also use W10 fully functional without a key for eternity, you just can't change the appearance (i.e. Wallpaper, etc.) and you get a slightly annoying watermark

If you want to go semi legit, there are OEM Keys online on various sites for $10-30

>>62016848
you can always grab a 1$ licence from ebay, or for about 10-20$ from kinguin and be done with it if you can't pirate them your self.

>>62016874
>PUBG optimazation is completetly shit
Oh boy it is
Yeah I'm planning to upgrade to a 1060 or something in the €200-300 range, maybe I will sell my useless Tablet for it (Nintendo Switch)

>>62016921
consider a 580 8gb instead senpai

NEW THREAD?!?!?!?!

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXvBVY

How is this? It's mainly for gaming and programming. I only play at 1080p and my monitor is 60Hz. Would it be worth it to just downgrade to a 970?

>>62017020
i'd pick asrock/msi/asus mobo instead.
you're seriously overpaying for that hdd. you can get toshiba p300 3tb for $75.

the rest is fine. and gtx 1060 is perfect for 1080p60hz.

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>>62016948
I dunno, is that a good price? The cheapest I could find for Goymany

So what's the deal with the new Intel processors? Is LGA 1151 kill?

>>62017020
consider the Asus Prime B350 Plus

>>62017053
shit price for a chink card.
see if you can find a deal from a site abroad.

check out massdrop, dunno if they have that card right now though.

>>62017049
How reliable is Toshiba though?

LG 27MP59G-P or 27MP68HM-P any good? If yes, which one would be preferable for gayming, movies etc normie shit?

Is there maybe another monitor I should be looking at? Build is R5 1600 with GTX 1080

>>62017059
just get gtx 1060. they perform basically the same and there's no reason to pay 60€ extra for rx 580 when you can find gtx 1060 for 300€.

>>62017091
>massdrop
nice meme

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Do someone use magic chink pcie to dual pci risers?

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>>62017083
Used cards don't look better either

And no matter where I look the prices just go up and up and up. Would a 1060 3GB for €210 be better if everything else is going high like this?

>>62017131
>>massdrop
>nice meme
meant for >>62017083

i'd say toshiba is as reliable as other brands. there isn't really a good source of failure statistics since backblaze's "study" is shit and means nothing.

>>62017132
fuck off

>>62015624
Use a magnetic screwdriver

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>>62017180
>magnetic screwdriver
>7+ dollars on Amazon
Fuck that shit, I got a whole set for $5 at Big Lots.

>>62017125
with 27" i'd look for 1440p monitors instead of 1080p, especially with your gpu since gtx 1080 is a waste for only full hd.
the other option is 1080p 144hz.

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>>62017216
>not having screwdriver set like pic related
i pity you

>>62017216
pro tip, stick a magnet to the side of the screwdriver, now its a magnetic screwdriver

>>62017125
>16:9 for movies
Ewww.

>>62017218
Is the Acer 1440p144Hz IPS worth shelling out 2.5x the price of the aforementioned?

what is the intel cpu meme for sub 500$ budgets?

>>62017274
1440p 144hz is a great experience if you can afford it. imo it's worth paying extra for a nice monitor since you'll be using it for far longer than your build.

if you want 1440p144hz ips gsync then viewsonic is the best one. it goes like this: Viewsonic XG2703-GS > Acer XB271HU = AOC AG271QG > Asus PG279Q

without gsync you have Asus MG279Q

>>62017454
g4560 / g4600

>>62017239
instructions unclear, got dick caught in usb drive

>>62017463
Ultrawide a meme or should I consider it?

new thread

>>62017575
>>62017575
>>62017575
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>>62017454
Bentium