Remote vs Office

Wagecuck

>>61899233
Trying to get out of it man. Remote feels less like wagecuckery + I have more time to work on my side shit but it's riskier. Being fired would be even worse. Hence my dilemma

as someone who faces this issue daily i must with a heavy heart say wagecuck. just do everything you can to make it as painless as possible by reducing commute times and have 1 day of work from home

>known company

Remote isn't that great as a software developer.
Doing all the communication over IRC/VoIP doesn't replace conversations in person even for an introvert like you.

LET STARTUPS DIE.

Go for the one that will help you more in the long run. It will look good on your CV because you most likely will learn/grow more there. Remote also isn't as ideal when you're starting out because it's harder to pick stuff up through "osmosis."

If you take the better looking option now, you'll have more freedom to work remote later in your career.

>>61899219
I work remotely and it's so much better than commuting to work every day.
You don't realize how baller it is to be able to wake up at 8 instead of 6 and be able to relax at home before you start working.
The money you save in commute and eating out is also great.

I ended up moving back with my parents so I can save all my money and eventually buy a house instead of having to rent.

>>61899296
Yeah this is why I'm leaning towards remote. I'd be able to save money and invest it in real estate to eventually just stop wagecucking. The option to travel would let me explore more opportunities.

How difficult is it to communicate with your team? I'm involved in a few remote projects but not for a company, so I don't know what it's like.

>>61899296
man fuck off

>>61899320
Why are you so touchy? Because you're stuck as an office slave?

>>61899319
It's not hard at all to communicate, we have daily meetings at 10:30 over Microsoft Teams, we use Teams to share all messages and momentary things. For more serious stuff we use emails or phone calls. Our boss sends us emails. Every week we do an actual on site meeting at the office, on fridays, because it's good to do that on the regular.

Before settling for Microsoft Teams we tried other things, but non were as convenient and easy to use. We use the whole Office suit so we also use Planner, etc.

>>61899320
What's the problem?

My personal pref is to work remotely, but go into the office once or twice a week. Skype is nice, but skype isn't the same as in person.

Why not ask the commute company if there is a chance in the future of doing that? You would get the best of both worlds.

Remember though, you should be looking for a career and not a job. The difference between the two is that a job becomes a career when you don't have to force yourself out of bed everyday. There is a reason well known companies are well known. There must be a reason people like working for them.

Trust me. If you pick the commuter, even if no work from home, and it turns into a career, the commute time won't bother you.

>>61899453
Good points.

The company is probably great to work for, but it's the environment too. I really really dislike the country I'm in (and that's sugar coating it). I want to get out of here and this company doesn't offer that opportunity.

>>61899319
It varies wildly. The remote anon is talking about a better case. Since it's a startup, there's a good chance they won't really know how to do remote well. They're probably just doing it because they can't afford the office space yet, not because it's what they want. You might be expected to go into the office after it grows some more.

Also, I can't tell you how many times I learned new things by overhearing a couple senior engineers discuss something interesting and then walking over to participate in that conversation. If the wagecuck company seems like an environment where you could do that, then that's a huge advantage.

>>61899574
It's completely remote, their employees are across the whole world not just my town/country. They also note that they're remote because it's part of their goal and they hate commutes. Could be just lying, but their Instagram is full of their employees traveling the world and shit

>>61899219
>make my CV look impressive
>offer great training
>only be to put it on my CV and being able to show off

If you're just trying to optimize for the best-looking CV, then you need to get your head on straight. The CV just gets you in the door. You should choose on the basis of what will help you grow more. There is no substitute for being a great dev/engineer.

At this point in your career, throw all that other shit out the window and focus on your own growth. You could probably just flip a coin and be happy at this point, but try to think about where you'll grow more.

>>61899531
This makes things a bit more complicated. If you work for the big company, the CV actually might matter if you're trying to emigrate to another country. The other job will help you travel, but that is only a temporary escape. A startup won't look as legit on your immigration papers, I imagine.

>>61899710
good point about the CV. after all I did get given a chance even though i have very little experience.

>where you'll grow more
as a person, in the remote job.
in my career, at the other company. though I have a whole course I follow to become a senior developer, and i could probably get there myself.

>A startup won't look as legit on your immigration papers, I imagine.
Very true. But my goal is to travel around without settling down yet. I'll always be able to live with my parents if I need a permanent home base. Immigrating fully would be in the future when I do have more experience and a better CV.

>>61899219
>>>/adv/
>>>/biz/
>>>/kys/

>>61900121
Salty NEET detected.

>>61900121
Lol, why /biz/?

Humans are social creatures and need some level of human-human interaction to stay sane and normal.
I strongly suggest working on-location, but with the option to work remotely (for days when you just don't feel like going in, you're sick, have some engagement, etc.)

Most companies have a VPN and offer company laptops, so you can work remotely on occasion.

Ask them if remote (on occasion) is possible.

>>61899219
It depends on you and the company. If you can work independently without constantly consulting rest of your team and company expects it from its devs, I think pick remote. Otherwise, it's gonna be a shitshow of incompetency and miscommunication.

Take the job that will benefit you more in the long run. If you're concerned about the commute draining you then try set up a daily routine around the new job so you have enough time in the morning to get into work with as little stress as possible.

Don't underestimate how important it is to have a face to face relationship with your colleagues. It helps matters immensely