/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>61845952
ching

>>61846257
>Atleast they are handmade

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>>61846257
Please no bully

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marshall major any good?

What's the difference between the MDR-7506 and MDR-V6?

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>>61845907
I finally bought these. Have I fallen for the meme?

>>61846404
no

>>61847258
yes, no subbass, veiled, enjoy. At lest you will get most of you money back when you sell them and buy something better.

>>61847258
The HD 600 are very good headphones. I prefer them over the DT 880. The veil is a meme, the weak subbass is only perceptible in some electronic recordings, real bass instruments doesn't get that low.

I'm so tired of all these shitposters fighting if it is the best or the worst headphones in the world. In every thread posting the same shit, they must be so sad. The HD 600 are great in its price point, and that's all.

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People pay $100+ for this?

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How are Meze 12 Classics? Are they a fashion meme?

Is planar headphones really worth it when I have the HD6XX coming in december?

Particulary the Monoprice M506

>Budget
~$100
>Location
eu
>Source
pc
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed, noise isolation is a paramount
>Comfort level
also important, gonna wear them for up to 10 hours at once
>Sound signature
i will be listening to people talking, sometimes recordings of low quality
>Past headphones
entry level sennheisers

>>61848152
No, put the money towards an amp+dac or something.

>>61848255
Already have one, just hearing about planar being unique in sound is enticing me

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>>61847854
>real bass instruments don't go that low
>bass guitars lowest note is at 40hz
>>61848152
Yes, get the m1060. You'll probably end up selling the meme600s when you realize how bad they distort low frequencies that they produce (pic related)

>>61848405
>Tripfag
Opinions disregarded

>>61848424
>Sniffing your own farts as an anon.
>The lowest note on a bass guitar is 40hz
>That's an "opinion"

Are you fucking retarded?

>>61848424
He's right though.

>>61848485
It doesn't matter, Tripfag opinions are discarded even if they're right.

>>61848360
It's not "unique" it's more accurate. Less distortion, better impulse response.

what is a nice headphone that dosen't wear out my hair after a long day and make me look like a balding old man?

>>61848493
>>>/r/headphones

>>61848509
You should go there if you like tripfags so much.

>>61848493
Those weren't opinions though. The hd600s lack bass and what bass they do put out is usually at a very high thd (4%).

The lowest note on a bass guitar is also 40hz.

Please learn the difference between fact and opinion.

>>61848521
I don't like tripfags but nothing he said was an opinion or wrong.

>>61848405
And you listen to music where they are playing only the lowest note of the bass guitar all the time. I own these headphones and I can tell they are great for the price. Stop being so pitiful, spending all day in these threads arguing with everyone. No one takes you seriously already.

I'm not saying the HD 600 are the best headphones in the world, but they are great at their price point. What are the "much better" alternatives? I'm pretty sure you didn't even heard most of the headphones you are discussing about.

>>61848061
>wood meme
parts look just like my a4tech shit at the price of 1000%

>>61848600
>bass rolls off at 100hz
It's a bass guitar. There's a lot going on between 40-100hz. Also
>Kick drum
>Synth
>Downtuned guitar (lowest note on a standard tuned guitar is 70hz)
>Piano (low as 27.5hz and 30% of keys fall below 100hz)

>Stop being so pitiful
Yeah I'm so pitiful convincing people to not buy a shitty headphone solely recommended by weebs in a blanket manner.
>Alternatives
M1060 he-400i or s. Actual bass is important especially with low distortion (inb4 meme article huurr more is bettur)

>No one takes me seriously
I'm sure that's why there's an entire collection of shitposts that are spammed every thread against me, and more people take my advice than most of the shillheiser spergs on this thread.

>>61848600
>Being this fucking mad your headphones are shit
>This level of buyers remorse

Vmoda crossfade 2 wireless any good?
Have m-100s but looking for something a bit more portable.

>>61848527
Lowest note on a 4 string bass guitar in standard tuning is the E1 at 41.20 hz, true. However, it's not at all rare to have the lowest note be B0 at 30.87 hz (standard 5 string) or A0 at 27.50 hz.
Lower is of course possible but it's rarer and starts to sound like shit.

Sup /hpg/ - Any recommendations for wireless headphones or are they all just bad in general? Pretty much just want to move around the house and lie in bed listening to music wireless.

My budget is roughly $200, but can go higher if needed.

>>61848683
I don't think my headphones are shit. I bought them knowing I could return them without any worries if they were worse than the Beyerdynamic DT 880. But I loved them from the start.

>>61848673
Maybe in your country the M1060 and the HE400i are in the same price point than the HD 600. Sadly, where I live the M1060 is not even available, and the HE400i is almost twice the price than the HD 600 (275€ vs 500€).

Probably you are right saying the M1060 and the HE400i are better alternatives, but given this large price difference, I'm pretty sure the HD 600 is still a great choice.

>>61848899
Then my apologies for being mean because I live in burgerland.

Babby ascending from shitty gaming headset. Just bought the blue snow microphone, now looking for a headset.

My budget is £200, thinking of buying Sennheiser HD 569 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-569-Closed-Headset/dp/B01L1IIF1A

But before I do, any of recommendations around my budget?

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Looking to get a new wireless headset and don't really have a good idea on whats in the god tier/great tier that I should consider getting.

Purchase info from the pastebin

>Location
Australia

>Budget
Up to about $400 AUD, but if there is a lower priced headset that performs better/on par with high end ones I'd defiantly consider it.

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed
Closed preferred.

>Comfort level
Imperative. Something I can wear all day. (which maybe a stretch with wireless. I don't know, never owed a set)

>Sound signature
Good for gaming.

>Past headphones
Corsair Vengeance 1500, my current headphones

Just going off some reviews of different head sets would any in the pic be a good choice?

>>61849345
The only ones I've seen rec'd in /hpg/ are the ones by HyperX, I personally wouldn't use any of them

>>61849426
HyperX make a wireless headset? All the ones I've seen have been wired.

>>61849469
No clue, I just know that they're all shit

>>61848673
You mean the melanin hump ends at 100hz. The actual "roll off" point is at 30hz.

>>61848405
Is that distortion partly due to the semi-porous annulus over the driver grill?

Hey my guys, I need replacement pads for my MDR-7506. I was told to get the Auray Genuine pads, but which ones are better, velour or leather?

Most of the time I use my phones for several hours. Which ones would be better for hot weather? My ears sweat a lot during summer.

>>61849791
Would also appreciate other recommendations, if there are better options.

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Every day I come here, and the same people are jerking each other off to frequency response measurements. Why not just enjoy the music for a change?

https://my.mixtape.moe/caiqic.flac

>>61849791
velours won't be as hot as (p)leather. using the beyerdynamic edt 250v on mine, can wear them all day without any comfort issues. they're slightly stiff and won't crush down, though, so you may have to adjust your clamp.

>>61849930
Aren't the auray ones made with real leather? Wouldn't that be different from pleather?

>>61849955
i think the auray's are sheepskin? they should be super soft and give you the best comfort of the three but won't be the coolest.

>>61850050
So I absolutely go velour if I don't wanna sweat as much? I don't mind comfort as long as they're not worse than the stock ones, they were fine until they started ripping.

>>61850078
yeah, velours should work best in that case, and definitely better than stock.

>>61846257
>>61846275
>Atleast they have heat

>>61847998
>usb input
>rca output
>dac chip
>just enough components to make it all work
less stuff between you and your music is preferable

O2 Amp or monoprice desktop amp?

I already have a Modi DAC but my magni amp died and I feel like branching out.

I can get the monoprice desktop amp/DAC for $73. Or the O2 Amp for $106.

Headphones are AKG K712 pro, HD 6xx (HD650), and Denon AH-D2000

>>61850598
With O2 amp you put rechargeable battery inside it and bring it wherever you want without using power supply.

>>61850643
Spare me, I'm a perma-loner. I leave the house for work. Besides that I'm at my desk at home. Portability isn't a concern, if the monoprice desktop amp is shit compared to the O2 I'd get the O2, but batteries have no bearing on my decision here.

>>61848200
ath-m50
make sure to do the cotton ball mod, increases bass

what should i use to burn in my new earphones? new to this

>>61850873
your brain

>>61848493
>It doesn't matter
Then go back

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Is it true that open back headphones provide better sound than closed back

>>61851031
Everything is subjective preference. "Better" has no meaning.

>>61851031
Somewhat. I generally prefer open headphones more, but there are closed headphones I would put above others

>>61845952
glomf

>Location
Canada

>Budget
~$350

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
As long as it's wearable

>Sound signature
Nothing too bright

>Past headphones
SHP9500S, DT880, Q701

What would be some headphones that compliment my setup?

>>61852109
Well you've got open headphones and semi-closed.

So unless you want more of the same you should probably look at sealed planar magnets (PM-3) or similar.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61852159
Kill yourself you poorfag

>>61848405
THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of audibility:
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_I.pdf
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_II.pdf
> In our next paper we will show that .01% THD of one type of nonlinear system can be perceived as unacceptable while 10% THD in another example is perceived as inaudible. Even one of these simple examples is sufficient to invalidate THD as a viable metric for discussion of the perception of distortion. Furthermore, 1% THD is not at all the same as 1% IM, but we will show that neither correlates with subjective perception.
>These results supported the skepticism that THD and IMD metrics were poor predictor of subjective perception of sound quality ratings.

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>>61852181
>More THD is better
Kek

How big is the difference between the Fulla 2 and Schiit Stack for HD600s? I'll mostly be using them for watching videos; is the Stack worth the difference?

How to know someone is a plebeian: they argue for less balanced headphones over more balanced headphones because "muh bass."

>>61852203
How to know someone is a plebeian: They unironically believe their headphone has no flaws

>>61852201
A Magni 2 will provide more volume. That's it. There is absolutely zero reason for you to get a Modi 2 because you already have a competent DAC in the Fulla 2. If you need more volume buy just a Magni 2 and use the Fulla 2 as your DAC.

>>61852203
No its the "why spend money on expensive headphones when you can buy insignia hedphones for 10$, they all sound the same". I hate em.

>>61848498
Budget?

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Is the Monomeme 2legit2quit or meme? Seems like the M560 is better built, but the M1060 is better overall in terms of sound quality.

This would be my first Magnetic Planar Audiophile tier headphone.

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>>61852411
It's a meme. Monoprice products in general tend to break very quickly and it is "harsh 5 kHz ringing: the headphone."

>>61852433
Fuck. I don't want to be a dynamic babby no mores ._.

>>61852411
The M560s are better built, but they are also on-ear headphones. The M1060s were where most of the complaints were targeted at, but it seems they have fixed most of the build issues with its second revision. If you baby them, you shouldn't have any trouble. They sound nice, but there are better planars out there.

>>61852458
He-400i are $249 on Amazon

>>61852411
If you can, buy them and spend time modding them. Otherwise, HE-400i. Hinges feel cheap, but babying them should do it.

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>>61852520
They're also fucking terrible.

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>>61852569
No. Bass is clean, but they are dark headphones, which may not be for everyone, but god damn, its bass is amazing.

>>61852569
Which planar headphone would you recommend, then?

>>61852588
That is an HE400, not an HE400i. It says so right on the .pdf.

>>61852520
Isn't the HE-4XX a much better proposition for the price. despite the wait?

>>61852569
Lol fuck off, you've never even listened to that graph

>>61852601
I wouldn't. I would recommend a Sennheiser HD600. Planar is a meme. All planar headphones have the ringing exhibited by >>61852433 albeit some to a lesser degree.

>>61847258
The veil is definitely there. Not enough bass or subbass with them for most modern genres though, which makes me wonder what music /g/ listens to?

>>61852614
Meh, if you can wait go ahead. But the $249 price is basically as low as they get and they've been upwards of $330 not too long ago.

>>61852612
It's an HE-400i, anon. Take a look for yourself.

https://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements

>>61852636
I listen to 90% classical, sounds like they're fine for me

>>61852632
>HD 600
>Weak bass
>Recessed treble
>Narrow-as-fuck soundstage
I fucking knew it! You haven't even listened to the HE-400i and M1060/M560, have you?

>>61852601

Not him, but I would certainly advise against Monoprice and Hifiman products, both of which possess notoriously poor build quality. Hifiman is also notorious for extremely poor customer service. The purpose of Chinkshit is to provide sub-$100 products to poorfags. Paying more than $100 for Chinkshit is flat out retarded. You get what you pay for, and when you buy expensive Chinkshit you get an expensive paperweight in time.

>>61852670
When the non-chink shit is $800+ there aren't too many decent alternatives.

>>61852653
>Fine
As with other headphones until you upgrade, no?

>>61852641

We clearly cannot assume what headphone that measurement is of. It says HE-400 on the measurement itself and HE-400i on the link to it. One of the two is a typo and we have no way of knowing which one. Intentionally posting an image of the measurement instead of the .pdf was intentionally misleading. Why would you intentionally attempt to mislead a consumer, anon?

>>61852614
They are damn similar to the HE-400is. I'd listen to >>61852637; they are basically a less refined HE-400i, but do what you want

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>>61852663
>weak bass
This is false. Its bass response is actually slightly boosted compared to planar alternatives all the way down to 30 Hz, and fundamentals below 30 Hz are fairly rare in music.
>Recessed treble
This is patently false. Its accurate treble response is similar to an ER-4S which some will find bright.
>Narrow-as-fuck soundstage
This is not a drawback. There are no accepted objective parameters for what makes a good or a bad soundstage, only subjective opinions. Many prefer a narrow soundstage.

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>>61852707
I'm not? Here are HE-4XXs which are damn close to HE-400is

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MassdropHiFiMANHE4XX.pdf

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>>61852569
>>61852760
Dude, i'm not talking to you until you can prove you own HD 600s. Or are you the anon who eq'd his HD600's bass up? Kek.
>>61844913

>>61852799
Those treble peaks at 7 and 10 kHz will be harsh as shit. I'd pay $20 for that, no more.

>>61852827
Have you listened to them? They aren't harsh at all; I would compare them as sounding like darker HD 650s.

>>61852760

You're doing God's work by providing articulate, insightful debunking to the samefagging anti-Sennheiser troll's shitposting, anon. Keep it up.

>>61852819

I think your ability to detect a clear joke is lacking. Autism, perhaps?

>35dB

You bought that? Really?

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>>61852849
Well, anon? Do you own them, or do you not?

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>>61852760
>Many prefer a narrow soundstage.
Just like how some retards prefer distortion and hiss. Kek!

>Budget
Prefer not to spend more than £200, but could do £300
>Location
UK
>Source
Onboard PC audio/FiiO X1
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Daily wearers, so as comfortable as 5XX sennheisers
>Sound signature
V shaped is probably what I want.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD518, Shure SE215

The Shures are perfect so I essentially want a similar sound, just in open, overear headphones.

I want them for metalcore music.

>>61852181
>Being this retarded
>Meme study
>DISTORTIOUN DUN MATTER

literally fucking retarded.

>>61852799

>those treble peaks

Absolutely disgusting.

>>61852894
I personally prefer my headphones to barely have any bass

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting, samefagging-as-anon troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure," refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot and tells anyone who proves him wrong they "can't read." His HRTF claim has been thoroughly debunked by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.
>in b4 he falsely claims he has debunked these links while refusing to link to said "debunking"
>in b4 multiple samefag damage control posts

>>61852922
>Not having listened to the headphones and basing your decision off of that
Lmaoing at being poor enough to not live beside a shop
>>61852840

>>61852944
He seems like ComfyGrados from years ago

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>>61852819
>>61852863
DiPolar, why do you continue to misleadingly and knowingly spam poorly-sealed measurements in order to attempt to prevent consumers from purchasing a quality product? What is the motive behind this sociopathic behavior?

>>61852944
>Inb4
>>61852181
Kek
>>61852194

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>>61852967
Why do you keep spamming the same frequency response graphs when you don't even own the damn headphones?
>>61852863
See
>>61847854
and
>>61849759
>Weak sub-bass
Jej

>>61853003
I've owned a pair of HD600s for 16 years and I agree with nothing plebspotters says about them. They are the best headphones in the world and the bass and subbass are not weak.
My post is every bit as credible as >>61849759

>>61853024
>Replying to second-tier bait
Good. Then post timestamp

>>61845907

Guys, I'm extremely sensitive to sounds, and people at work make a lot of noise, especially slamming doors.

Will noise isolating headphones work for loud sounds such as door slamming? I just want to reduce the sudden piercing sound.

I'm at my wits end.

Should I get a bluetooth receiver thing or get a 10 meter 3.5 cable? I've never had bluetooth anything and there is supposedly a huge delay over bluetooth.

>>61852601
Not the HD600 shill or the anti-Monoprice friend, I suggest you can try MrSpeakers AEon first if you don't mind it costs $800 and it's closed back.
Or you can buy Fostex TH-500RP if you still can find one.

I've had a pair of DT770 80 Ohm for quite few years now (thanks to /hpg/ recommendations!) and I literally have nothing to complain about. Is there something I could upgrade to, while staying under 200$? Or do I have to up my budget if I want something better?

>>61853304
Closed or open?

>>61853316
Closed.

>>61852967
>>61852944
>Claims I'm samefagging
>I don't even post these graphs
>Claims I'm wrong
>Continues to misinterpret his own sources

Do you need to get BTFO'd again with a screenshot? I'm 90% sure everyone knows you're a fucking retard.

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>>61853003
This image has been debunked.

>>61853451
Your opinion has been debunked
>>61852819
>>61852863
>>61853003
>>61853044

>>61853372
HD 569, but I would do some more research (preferably outside of /hpg/)

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>>61852967
>>61853003
There are several problems with HD600, but low bass isn't one of them, except of course if they are poorly sealed.

The three main problems are
>a midbass hump around 120Hz which overshadows low bass and is responsible for a somewhat muddy sound.
>a bump near 4KHz, which overshadows the highs and makes everything sounds too forward yet veiled. This bump isn't displayed on every measurements depending on the coupler used, but it's very real.
>a poor plastic construction that may lead to snapping

Anyone debating about any other HD600 misbehavior is obviously shitposting.

red pill me on bluetooth please.

>>61853596
Do you actually own the HD 600s this time, or are you just reading frequency response graphs?

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>Budget
up to £2000
>Location
UK
>Source
looking for one, thinking of getting Schitt jotunheim
>Type of headphone
Dont mind but currently thinking of LCD 2
>Open or closed
Open i suppose,
>Comfort level
would like it to be comfy
>Sound signature
no clue, completely new to this
>Past headphones
Shure SE215,
beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro


im completely new to this, i usually listen to music on speaker at home but going to uni this september
please help me out?

>>61853596
>Poor plastic construction
Neat, I can agree with those

>>61853596
>a midbass hump around 120Hz which overshadows low bass and is responsible for a somewhat muddy sound.
>a bump near 4KHz, which overshadows the highs and makes everything sounds too forward yet veiled. This bump isn't displayed on every measurements depending on the coupler used, but it's very real.
>a poor plastic construction that may lead to snapping
Seems good

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>>61853596
I can agree with this

>>61853589
Thank you, I will. Would you consider the HD 569 an upgrade compared to the DT770s or just headphones with a different sound signature?

>>61853800
A bit of both, to be honest. But they are different sounding headphones with different sound signatures

>>61853633
plz help

>>61853633
Lcd 2 is a solid choice at your budget, but consider the Mr speakers offerings in That price range.

>>61853800
>>61853843
There are probably better alternatives out there, but none off the top of my head

>>61853627
I've owned a HD580 for a few years, which is mostly the same thing. The description is in line with what I heard and noticed.

>>61853897
I see. Thanks

The post >>61853513 has been debunked by >>61853451

I'm starting to think no one in these threads have ever owned a single pair of headphones in their lifes.

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>>61853897
So, you don't own a HD600, which has undergone several revisions, therefore your opinion is worthless. Got it.

>>61853984
The most vehement shitposters are the ones who are either too poor to afford headphones in general or those who are too poor to afford more than a single headphone. The people who have headphones and are satisfied with them have no need to engage in shitposting the same way to defend a purchase that they already enjoy.

>>61853888
Thank you-

>>61853980
>>61853980
This post has been debunked by
>>61853513
Now come back and shill once you can actually afford HD 600s

>>61854004
Do you own HD 600s? This anon >>61853714 seemed to agree with him

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>the HD600 were first introduced in 1994 as the HD580
>it is 23 years later
>they are still the best full-sized headphones in the world
Why?

>>61854077
Because they're not
>>61853596
>>61853714

>>61854054
Is that an HD600 in his picture? No, it is not. It is a picture of the inferior HD6XX.

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>>61854098
>Inferior
Why even bother defending them? You don't even the headphones

>>61854130
>own

>>61854077
because sennperior has a monopoly on skilled engineers like kyoani's monopoly on skilled animators

>>61854077
>>61854184
Dumb anime posters

He400i or HD650? Objective answers only

>>61854208
HE-400is sound like darker HD 650s. See >>61853596 for a more appropriate answer regarding the HD 650

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>>61854184
For having a monopoly on engineers they sure have trouble designing a good headband

>>61854004
>>61854098
But judging from your disassembly pictures, current 600s and 650s (and thus 6XXs) are literally identical.

>>61854208
He-400i if you care about having lower distortion overall.

>>61854208
HE-400i if you can handle chink shit build quality; HD 600 for slightly less chink shit build quality. The HE-400is have a cheap feeling plastic swivel (forgot the term), while the HD 6XXs have a tendency to snap when stretched too far

Just checked out Sennheiser's website on a whim, do they not have low end headphones that aren't filled with meme shit like bluetooth and microphones anymore?

>>61852411
>>61852433
I just got the m1060's a couple weeks ago. The 5k ringing is there and it pissed me off but I put the headphones through white noise, pink noise, and sine wave burn in for 8 hours and the ringing stopped. The only thing I can't stand about these headphones is the god damn connectors. You literally breathe too hard and they disconnect. It's the most infuriating thing i've ever dealt with. The sound is fucking amazing, better than the LCD 2's (which i've owned) but because of the connectors I give a strong 3/5.

>>61854639
You should have bought the revision.

>>61854639
I did, I have the Rev. 2's. The 2.5 mm connectors are fucking garbage.

>>61854667
>>61854678

>>61854678
Return them, they shouldn't be doing that. I have the revision and my connectors are perfect.

>>61854711
do your's actually lock in to the ports? mine literally don't even lock in, they just kinda sit there inside the port waiting to get disconnected.

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>>61854639
>but I put the headphones through white noise, pink noise, and sine wave burn in for 8 hours and the ringing stopped.
Ahahahahahahaha. Planars do not work that way.

>>61854739
Yes, mine have a very clear click as they lock into place.

>>61854753
>Inb4 never owned planars

>>61854208
HD650. Hifiman's customer service is objectively known to be absolute dogshit.

>>61854753
Well I guess my ears just magically stopped hearing the ringing, then. When I first listened to them the ringing was so bad I literally couldn't bear it and then I did the burn in and it stopped.
>>61854764
wtf, guess I need to return them, then.

>>61854639

>I put the headphones through white noise, pink noise, and sine wave burn in for 8 hours and the ringing stopped.

Pure psychoacoustics placebo. Your ears got used to the sound. That's it. I absolutely guarantee you the ringing is still there and would show up if you measured them. Lots of people report sound changes from "burn in" and literally every single time it's simply a result of your brain getting used to the sound. In any case, your experience with poor quality control is very typical of Monoprice products.

>>61854820
I don't see how my ears could've got used to them when I listened to them for 30 minutes, couldn't stand the ringing, did the burn in and then immediately couldn't hear any ringing anymore.

>>61854208
HE-400i, or if you want to go cheaper, HE-4XX

>>61854820
>I put the the headphone through white noise, pink noise, and sine wave burn in for 8 hours and the ringing stopped
>Psychoacoustics placebo

>>61854639
>The 5k ringing is there and it pissed me off but I put the headphones through white noise, pink noise, and sine wave burn in for 8 hours and the ringing stopped.
confirmation bias. planars have been around long enough so that if burn in fixed the ortho wall this method would be well tested known and spread around by now. planar manufacturers would burn in headphones before selling them if burn in fixed the ortho wall. all planars have an ortho wall and burn in does not get rid of it.

>>61854884
Maybe you should leave /hpg/ every once-in-awhile :^)

>>61854920
maybe you should buy some monster cables if you think burn in can get rid of an ortho wall

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>>61854939
Have you left /hpg/ yet? :^)

>>61854286
I don't think there's a chance this can happen if you treat your headphones like headphones.

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>>61855074
Sometimes it can

>Test

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Whoa, calm down you two. Let's not do anything drastic now.

>>61855596
I remember you. How are the knives, anon?

Someone recommend me headphones; no price limit

>>61855638
HD600

>>61855655
I said no price limit

>>61855638
Focal utopia

>>61855673
Thank you

>>61855672
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044

>>61855596
Which one is your favorite and why?

>>61855729
I said no price limit

>>61855638
hd600

>>61855638
$10 shitphones from Wal-Mart and eq them to sound like hd800s

>>61855655
>>61855729
>Falling for the poorfag headphones maymay
Dude, stop it

>>61855772
I said no price limit
>>61855776
Thank you

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Is this the /csg/ general?
What are you waiting on from China kiddo?

>>61855805
wtf? I thought this was /spg/

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I'm pretty happy with my setup.

>>61855820
Looks comfy

>>61855788
The peer-reviewed scientific study cites states that there is no correlation between headphone frequency response and price, and that non-linear headphone properties have little effect. This, in effect, means that one cannot assume that more expensive headphones are better, and that one cannot assume that the headphones best suited to an individual's needs will belong to any price bracket in particular.

>>61855620
Mass delay sent everyone the wrong edge type to what they selected so we all got to keep the mistake then they sent out the correct ones. On my end they sent me the wrong one again but was like oh woops please send that one back while we send you the correct one. Finally got it in and you see both in the pic.

The tight clip and strong texturing make it difficult to slide into and off your pocket and reaching into you pocket while it's there will eat your hand up. So far just processing some cardboard boxes the edge and finish has held up but I haven't don't anything major with it. The serrations are the size and shape I like for wire stripping.

That's all I got for you so far. I like how they look.

>>61855843
>Still defending your poorfag status
I shiggy diggy

>>61855638

Sennheiser HD600, the best full-sized headphones available on the market at any price.

>>61855901
I said no price limit

>>61855638
KSC75

>>61855805
Wtf I love my superlux now!

>>61855655
>>61855772
>>61855882
How likely am I to be BTFO'd if I called samefag on these anons?

>>61855947
>>61855901

>>61855874
Thanks

>>61855947
Samefag accusations and posts attempting to discredit samefag accusations are both, effectively, shitposts and a waste of time because inspect element exists.

>>61855995
>t. samefag anon

>>61854077
Because that's your opinion

>>61855638
Mr speakers ether

>>61855936
Appreciate it
>>61856020
Thanks

>>61855638
Panasonic HJE-120

>>61856041
Gladly appreciated

>>61855638
Stop posting bait with your trip off, DiPolar.

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>>61856064
Not me. Please don't shitpost; am looking for nice headphones with no price limit

>>61856099
>>61856064
>He gets BTFO'd for the umpteenth time
Fucking so many paranoid schizophrenics in this thread.

>>61856122
Just one, not anon, just one.

>>61856099
>respond "appreciate it" to KSC75
>respond "Gladly appreciated" to HJE-120
>respond "I said no price limit" to HD600
You're not fooling anyone. These responses made the fact it was bait too obvious.

>>61853316
Not him but could I ask for an open recommendation as well?

>>61856140
I was only playing around, anon. Looking at past posts, some anons don't even own HD 600s. If it makes you feel better, I am going to do research on them; just not inside this thread. Now stop being so paranoid and enjoy the two /hpg/ threads :)

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>>61855731
K7xx. I like how the bass sounds and how the high end is clearer and more detailed. That said there are things I like about the 6xx but they aren't related to sound. K7xx is a looser fit and it's like you're swimming in those huge headpads which can make it difficult to get it properly aligned with your ears. Wonky design elements. Hd6xx just. fits. right. with the right amount of clamp love the oval headpads and the size of them. If I could take the k7xx drivers/sound and place them in the hd6xx that would be prime.

Also I just wouldn't try this with the sennhisers

>>61855841
Is comfy.

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>>61856122
>>61856137
>62 seconds apart

>>61856182
HD579

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>>61856240
Not him, anon. Why would Mr. Trip samefag on himself?

Watch me ;)
>>61856222
>>61856240
>1 minute apart
Samefag

Currently enjoying my HD800s, anyone else not poor as shit and can afford nice headphones?

>>61856182
HD 579 or HD 589, whichever one is cheaper, but my advice is the same for you.
>>61853589
>>61853843
>>61853892

>inspect element
>proof

>>61856325
I meant 598

>>61856334
>Being so paranoid you'd call a samefag on a samefag that wouldn't make sense

>>61847258
Literally the best headphone you can get for 260 burgers.

>>61855901
>the best full-sized headphones available on the market at any price.

>>61848498
>tfw HD25-1 II for 3 years
>tfw bald at 20yrold

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Yeah or nah?

>>61856729
My unit came with a sketchy USB port which kept on disconnecting. Dunno where you're buying it from but I'd hope it has a good return policy.

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>>61856776
>Robust
Be more subtle
>Gently expand headband

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>$5 VE Monk Plus
>More enjoyable and fun sound than the HD 600

What did the chinks mean by this?

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>Dubget
~$150 - 200
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear (is that full size?)
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Playing/Recording music (not professional but hobby)
>Past Headphones
Random ones

Looking for something for my fathers birthday he likes to make little songs on his guitar and all his life me and my brother have been breaking all the headphones and hes had and been little shits so now that we're grown up I want to get him something nice that will hopefully last.

>>61856805
>posting quotes from obvious paid Beyer shills

>>61856788
it's SMSL's official page and ebay are downright draconian with their buyer protection so I should be fine

did you like the performance of the thing while it was functioning?

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>>61856835
>Implying Sennheiser doesn't have chink shit plastic
>I thought the headband would be stronger

>>61856869
>having to replace both drivers
for what fucking reason

>>61849345
Man O Wars suck ass, the audio quality is muffled to absolute fucking shite and is way too bass heavy. wasted £90 on them and they won't refund me

>>61856881
Not sure, dude. Was taken from Head-Fi. Maybe the wiring broke? They're pretty thin

>>61856831
Sennheiser HD 598 (open), Brainwavz HM5 (closed)

>>61856869
>posting quotes from obvious paid AKG shills

>>61856972
Nice try, anon. He was comparing the HD 600 to the HD 700 :^)

What speakers do you guys recommend for below $2k?
I mostly listen to classic/orchestra music.

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>>61856993
Just baby them :^)

>>61856912

The HD 598 looks reallly nice but it's a little pricy ~300. Does anyone have any experience buying them used? The list price is 379.99 then it's reduced to 265.77 but I can also get them second hand off amazon for $150 so that seems like a pretty decent deal. I don't know what second hand implies though, returned or used and then later sent back?

Sennheiser HD 598 SR Open-Back Headphone seem a little bit cheaper at $150 new, what's the difference between normal and SR. The regular Sennheiser HD 598 look really nice though.

I just bought a Razer Kraken V2 USB

did I fuck up?

>>61857026
>I don't know what second hand implies though, returned or used and then later sent back?
If it's an Amazon warehouse deal, I believe it could be either or, unfortunately

>>61857026
Literally no difference. Only colour, I believe. The closed-back version though, please avoid.

>>61857009
How are you using these speakers? At a desk or a larger space?
Bookshelf/stand mount or floorstander?
Subwoofer?
Country?
Any other constraints you can think of?

>>61856838
Yep, just enough power for me to comfortably use my HD600 with EQ. Obviously depends on your preferred listening level. It's measured to be audibly transparent and that's what I heard.

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>>61857055
>>61857090
>>61856912
Alrighty guys I bought a used pair of Sennheiser HD 598 for $170 said that they were like new. Hope he enjoys them thanks guys!

>>61847258
nope

>>61857240
Good luck, anon

>>61857188
At my bedroom(24*16 ft)
Bookshelf
>Subwoofer?
I don't know, I'll use then only to listen music.
>Country
USA
>Any other constraints you can think of?
Not really, I don't have a tv in my bedroom because I don't want one.

>>61857282
*them

I want headphones that sound like SHP9500s but I can actually hear bass guitar with

>>61857318
AKG K612

>>61857009
Magnepan .7s
Philharmonic bmr
Salk sound stuff (multiple models)

>>61856830
Just buy it and see for yourself.
>>61857036
Toss that shit, Status CB-1 + Vmoda BoomPro

>>61857318
budget?

>>61857439
280

>>61857576
AKG K612 or HD 600

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How does this look? I spent quite a bit of time figuring out exactly how the software works. It sounds pretty good.

>>61857622
Does it sound fine? It's up to your taste

>>61857576
What country?

>>61857639
I should have been more clear. I'm trying to get them(dt990) closer to neutral. I've never had the chance to listen to good speakers or ety/other neutral headphones so I'd like to figure out what it really sounds like.

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Look at what I found in the dumpster, guys.

Now I just need a good pair of headphones and I'll be just like slash gee slash!

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Is there any point to getting the HD6XX *and* the HE4XX? I want to know what planar magnetics are all about, but I'm not sure if HE4XX is a good representation of them. I don't want the M1060 because of build quality issues, but I don't think I have any choice around and under $500.

Is the bass on either one something that can be reasonably fixed with EQing up?

>>61857826
>Recreating planar bass with dynamic drivers
Yes, and no

>>61857826
No, there's no point getting both, just get the HE4XX.

What exactly do you think needs fixing with EQ?

>>61857826
Somewhat, you definitely aren't going to get planar-tier bass with dynamic drivers, if that's what you're expecting.

>>61853189
Earplugs, it's what I do

>>61857622
Click the settings in the graph and set it to -15dB. You'll get a better picture cause you're not going to be increasing/decreasing more than 10dB anyways.

>>61857656
US

>>61857951
Didn't you already ask this before?

If not, AKG K612, HD 600, HD 650

>>61857990
>>61857951
The K702/Q701s are also an option

>>61857873
>What exactly do you think needs fixing with EQ?
i don't have either headphone yet but that treble peak seems excessive.

not sure about the bass since I don't really know what kind of sounds are 10hz - 40hz and if that really needs to be remedied on either headphone

>>61857873
the HD6XX are already coming, and it's a great enough choice for me just on value alone because HD650 is around US$400 in Canada.

>>61857282
The sub is for deep bass output. Organs, bass, drums, etc. Difficult for any small speaker. Deceptively, floorstanding speaker can be much smaller than tjey appear.
Active speakers such as the KH120, 8030C, Event Opals.
Passives such as the Concerta2 M16 and KEF R300.
Some of the other suggestions have a particularly strong directivity, which I find a large con.

New bread

>>61858343

>>61858343

>>61858343

>>61857318
HD600

>>61857622
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/
The Sinegen part is not optional. You cannot accurately EQ high frequencies to a measurement because of your unique ear canal properties.

>>61857826
>Is the bass on either one something that can be reasonably fixed with EQing up?
Of course.
>>61857896
Incorrect. Properly EQ'd dynamic headphones' bass response will be perceived as identical to planars. See: http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044
>Research has suggested that non-linear properties of headphone responses have little effect

>>61858436
>The same link again
>Research
>Not comparing them yourself
Poorfag detected

>>61858436
Most dynamics have audible bass distortion; this can be seen in the THD graphs.
And just pre-emptively, before you bother misinterpreting more studies
>more THD is good

>>61858356
>>61846055
We didn't need a third fucking /hpg/. You people are being absolutely retarded with your new thread starting lately. Wait until the bump limit and start one fucking thread at a time.

>>61858485
see
>>61852181 which is not arguing that more THD is good. Nice strawman.
In any case, harmonic distortion is particularly difficult to perceive in the bass region.

>>61858517
So THD is bad. End of argument, now stop reposting your shitty misinformation.

>>61858436
Have you, anytime recently, compared planars to magnetics? Or are you just spouting what you hear like that Sennheiser shill who doesn't even own what he's shilling?

>>61858406
>unique ear canal properties.
The pinna, not the ear canal. The canal is a non factor.

>>61858517
There is no harmonic distortion for anything other than a sine wave. The same static non-linearity that produces harmonic overtones modulates new tones when there is more than one frequency.
Masking spectra imposes a high threshold with it anyway for anything other than very simple harmonic content.

>>61858561
Planar is shape.
Magnetic is the drive principle.
Electrostatic diaphragms are planar.
Planars are flat dynamic drivers.

>>61847258
Tell me if the clamp is comfortable.

>>61858613
>The canal is a non factor.
This cannot possibly be true. I would think different ear canal widths would produce resonances at different frequencies. I've done home measurements with rudimentary couplers meant to simulate ear canals and using different widths have definitely produced resonances at different frequencies.

>>61858758
>ear canal widths
I'm sure you meant canal length.
>produced resonances at different frequencies.
-The brain already incorporates the gain of the ear into weighting tonality. The headphone excites the canal resonances, which are direction independent, as any other source outside the ear.
-Pinna shape is much more variable. The extreme near field interaction is unlike other sound field that originate further away, and subject to cavity modes from the geometry of pinna and headphone enclosure.

Quick!
Is Ath R70X better than snapheisser?

>>61859392
It doesn't snap; it can't snap with that metal headband

>>61859392
They're pretty similar, but one doesn't snap

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHR70x.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

US
$200
Open or closed, able to be used on a phone, prefer mic with 'em.
Using to claim hearing issues at my call-center job so I don't have to use their shit-ass headsets.

>>61859713
>call-center job
im so sorry

>>61859759
It's actually really nice. The headsets are the problem.

>>61859713
ATH-MSR7, probably.
The little in-line remote mic might not cut it, but you can attach your own in-line mic as needed,

Best amp for HE400i? I'm using a Magni, is "upgrading" past this not a thing?

What is the best CIEM currently made under $400?

>>61859886
If you get enough volume out of your Magni you do not need to upgrade and spending more on an amp will not get you increased sound quality.

>>61859821
Thanks.

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>>61846055
>>61846055