/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Noctua dude here from previous thread, any tips before I take this cpu cooler off again to reapply this paste?

This is gonna be a pain in the ass because my motherboard is already in the case

Is there any difference in performance or thermals between the ITX and non-ITX models of the RX560? The MSI RX560 ITX 4GB is way cheaper than the non ITX models at my local store

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when the fuck is this mining craze going to die down?
should I just start mining with this instead of gaming?

>>61844823
Sell it and upgrade to something like a 1070

When is Vega launching? I don't ask because I want one...I actually want a 1080ti but I'd rather not spend $750 for a decent one if prices are going to drop even slightly.

>>61844823
>mining instead of gaming
>not mining to get a discount/free 480 or similar
been mining overnight on my amd gpu since 2012, every one of them has paid for themselves, I seriously dont get the problem. I get that 580s are like 300 bucks now, but realistically mining 12 hours a day you'll make 30 a month at current prices, at which point in 3 months the card is back down to the price it "should be"
as for when it will be over, expect ethereum switching to POS to shake off quite a bit of the mining craze, too much new blood that gets scared too easily

>>61844857
14th

>>61844823
It's only going to get worse.

Ryzen 1200 (OC to 3.9)
Asus PRIME B350M-K
Gskill DDR4 RipjawsV PC21300 16GB (2x8GB) Dual Channel F4-2666C15D-16GVB

Any other recommendation for motherboard or Asus is good enough?
Currently I got an i3 and I got sick with this CPU always stuttering when I gaming and playing youtube/browsing in the background.

>>61845233
Save the money and get a 1600. i3 to a 1200 while an upgrade isn't worth buying a new motherboard and ram for.

>>61844778
>Bigger, should value more
They are fucking retarded

>>61845284
I got an i3 2100 for almost 6 years and the mobo already start to breakdown.
I rather spend the money on better ram and decent mobo and upgrade to new Ryzen+ next year.

Still I heard there are some mobo that need to avoid from /g/, but i don't remember which one.

>>61845391
some x370 mobo from asscrack that won't be compatible with zen+

>>61845399
>Asscrack
Asus? Asrock?

Should I changed my mobo to MSI or Gigabyte?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wxxynn
Should i get NVME M.2 ssd or sata ssd?
And is this a good build?
Answer.

>>61845410
anus = asus
asscrack = asrock
don't fall for the brand name meme, there are good mobos for all 4 companies, you just got to be careful and read reviews for problems

>>61845436
All of these three are in my price range, any good recommendation?
I want to hear /g/ opinion on them.

Asus PRIME B350M-K
MSI B350M PRO-VDH
ASRock AB350 Pro 4

>>61845423
NVME is like AIO cooling, just for looks and with a small budget they aren't worth it, get a sata SSD. I assume you own 960 as otherwise that would be retarded and I'd suggest you get 1060. You can drop down to a B350 board. PSU is fine.

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Upgraded build list for that X51 R2 rebox project.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HwRpPs

>>61845526
now check what RAM actually works with each mobo

>>61845526
Just got the asus strix b350-f in the mail today for my 1600 build
S'nice, paid $80

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>>61845436
>there are good mobos for all 4 companies
>leaves out Biostar
>o-okay anon...

I was comparing my i5 2500K to newer setups and it looks like I wont get a huge jump in performance. I have a GTX 960 that would carry over if i did upgrade and I would use 16 GB of ram like i currently use. But the cost seems just not worth it going to a i5 7500 or Ryzen 5 1500X

Last time I looked at upgrading right when the 1080 Launched I just doubled my ram and got the 960.

>>61845591
the upgrade makes sense if you grab a 1600

>>61845578
I'm going to hybridize a capacitor with a shotgun shell and call it a "crypto mining high stress super capacitor" and sell boards with them soldered in.

So i want to build a dual LGA 771 thing for the lols
mobo, 32gb of ram, dual xeons, coolers all cost like 120$ total, i already have a case that an EATX board should fit in, some drives, fans and a GPU

so all i need now is a power supply
but i need one with a 24 pin, a 4 pin and an 8 pin CPU power, as the board needs all 3 of those

any suggestions? looking for 1000w or greater, used server PSU's optimally

>>61845627
good luck anon.

>>61845423

why are you wasting my time with a 5400 rpm HD in CurrentYear() ?

So, I know this isn't exactly the right thread for this, but its adjacent to the topic at hand and I don't really think it deserves its own thread. Currently I have one of those Entry level Acer 1440p 27in monitors. I'm kinda trying to find a Freesync panel for Vega and I found a AOC one that is under $400, which has all the features I want, but is smaller. Would it still be worth it to upgrade? Everything else is better than my current monitor.

>>61845672
Check the reviews for the monitor?
Sure it could be better but since you want freesync, make sure the freesync is properly implemented.

So my power supply came with a fuck ton of cables but my case has a bunch of cables tied up in the back.

Before I start this shit does anyone have any idea what the difference is? Are they extenders for the power supply's cables or something?

Fractal r5 is the case

>>61845539
I am using it temporarily because of bitshitcoin mining. And It still performs better than the 1050.
>>61845662
I had a 7200rbm hdd but a lot of other anons in pervious threads suggested me to get a 5400rbm as they are less loud and the performance difference isn't big

>>61845738
It'd help if you told/showed us what cables they are.

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I can't seem to stop changing things on my build. Can anyone recommend a decent air cooler? Tired of this stock one, even though it works just fine imo.

i5 6600(non k)
8gb ram(16 soon)
120gb SSD (boot)
2tb HDD(storage)
Asus gtx 1070
Fractal nano S (think)

also r8/h8

>>61845851
Also, cleaning it this weekend, haven't had a day off in a couple of weeks.

>>61845851
noctua dh-15

>>61845851
Aesthetically 0/10
Cables 2/10
Thermals 1/10
Case 0/10 because of not good looking interior + window

Don't buy a case with a window if you are going to use the ugliest components.
I suggest you to buy a case without a window (fractal r5, corsair 270r) and to put a better cooler inside

Are AIOs worth it for threadripper or should I wait for the Noctua to ship?

>>61845959
Recc me some pretty components m8

>>61845851

Have shittiest $10 two heatpipe chinese cooler , just had to sand down and polish the base and it cools 125W amd housefire no problem.

I barely play more than 2 games on my current PC, and I mostly use my PC for work now. With this in mind,I'm thinking about buying a 500gb NVMe (960 Pro) and pairing it with some hard drives I currently have for mass storage. Then I'll upgrade to larger SSDs at a future date. I'm also building a NAS sometime before the end of the year.
How does this sound?

>NVMe for OS, dedicate 100gb for scratch disk, remaining space for some programs
>HDD and NAS for mass storage

>>61846043
NVMe is a meme

If I get really fast ram, say 4133 CAS 18, can I run that slower and at her timings? Say 3466 CAS 16 for example?

>>61846056
sure

>>61845851
Cryorig M9i. Use the cooler with 7700k before change to C14S. Cool just fine.

>>61845989
That would be a waste of money. Just one of the cases i mentioned fractal r5/Corsair 270r

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3016-amd-moves-vega-56-embargo-forward-prioritizes-over-64

Whelp this pretty much confirms that the Vega64 will be a huge piece of turd.

>>61844664
Why isn't the 1070 labelled as good for 1440p144hz monitors? You won't be hitting 144hz consistently across all modern games but it's still worth the purchase if possible based on my experience with my friends 6700k and gtx 1070 build with a rog swift pg278q. He gets 60-80 fps in most demanding AAA titles and can hit over 120 fps in other less demanding games or shooters like bf1 or overwatch.

I think that should be included there as it's still a viable option.

>>61846222
1070 are overpriced currently due to mining. Reminder that Nvidia has slashed their MSRP to 350 dollars. Try finding a 1070 for 350 dollars in the current market.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LaughingGrass/saved/xKnbvK

hey guys, I'm on around a 1k USD budget here. Critique my build?

I'm using this for autoCAD, Adobe PS/AE/CC/I, Unity, and Blender work. Just keeping that in mind. Ryzen absolutely over Intel, but I'm just making sure if there are anything else I need to change or add. I'm not too sure about the 1060, but I heard it's fairly decent for what I'm going to use it for anyways.

Not sure about windows 10, I like windows 8 personally, but everyone's been putting win10 on their newer builds despite how much I despise the updates and (spyware?) that people say there is.

I know I haven't chose a case yet, you can recommend me a good one if you want!

>>61846272
1700 comes with its own cooler. No need to get a 212. 1600 is good enough imo. Get 2 sticks of RAM over 1. So 2x4 instead of 1x8.

Ok maybe 6 years later i might upgrade. does this sound bad? its dumb with all the RBG I know

Ryzen 5 1600X
Gigbyte GA-AB350-Gameing 3
Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB SSD
G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4 2400 4X8GB=32GB
GTX 960

>>61846272
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LaughingGrass/saved/xKnbvK

>**adding another question**
Is my mobo good for all the powerful stuff I'm adding in? A friend of mines is saying that if I'm using that hq ryzen and gpu sht I'd best be using around a 100$+ or so mobo because of something to do with the VRM or voltage handling. Advice? Thanks

>>61846298
If you are getting the 1600X you need a cpu cooler.

>>61846299
No he is a fucking moron. Only get expensive motherboard if you are using the extra features that those motherboards come with. There are quality VRM without having to overspend.

>>61846272
>300$ cpu
>The cheapest mobo you found
>Sub 30$ cooler over the stock cooler
>1×8 2400mhz ram
Please be a bait

>>61846236
I'm talking about in general. The 1080 shouldn't be the baseline for 1440p144hz gaming which the OP implies. The 1070 is a good contender for that experience and when prices aren't fucked, should be the better value option for people who want that 60+ fps experience.

>>61846318
Why? I won't be overclocking. Have I messed up and should drop the "x". I have to assume AMD ships an appropriate cooler.

>>61846385
The benchmark when 1440p144hz is being mentioned is being able to play games 1-2 years old. 1070 can do 144hz in "competitive" games but falls when playing AAA games of recent years.

>>61846403
It still manages 60+ fps in demanding games maxed out pretty consistently. I just watched this vid and even demanding games like rottr average between 60 and 80 fps which would still benefit from high refresh monitors

https://youtu.be/d32eVixz2h0

This is with a ryzen as well. Higher fps can be achieved with a 7700k if some one really wanted that maximum fps experience. The whole package would still be cheaper than having a 1080.

>>61846401
Above 1300, all Ryzen with X ship without the cooler.

>>61845851
Cryorig H5

>>61846466
Wacky!

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I've made a tactical decision. Any future monitor purchases will be made through Walmart.

Walmart offers an array of 22" 1080p monitors for under $100. By my experience and logic, I have a better chance of a satisfactory outcome than fishing for more expensive monitors and waiting for them to ship.

Also, most of these Walmart monitors support VESA mounting despite starting as low as $69. There are $300 monitors that don't support VESA mounting.

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>spend 1000$ on a PC
>it can't display a fucking circle without turning it into an oval

God damn it how the fuck do i stop my screen from being stretched so wide?

>>61846569
Anon... you do know that image won't show your problem, right?

>>61846466
>>61846544
1500X also comes with a cooler
But 1600X/1700X/1800X do not

>>61846569
>>61846575
I'm going to guess it isn't showing you widescreen resolutions?

Drivers up to date?
Is the system using the right GPU?

Building a pc for 1440p lads. Will my Ryzen 5 1600x OC be fine when paired with a gtx 1080ti?. Also any recommendations for a variant of the ti that can OC decently.

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>>61846569

>>61845851

I switched to a hyper 212 evo from an Intel stock cooler and I'm very glad with. Should have do so years ago. Hardly any noise, even under load and the temps remain low.

>>61846575
yes, i was just showing that i only have four resolution options unlike i see in some of the apparent fixes online.

is this a graphics card problem? i'm using a crappy decade old one until a GTX 1050 ti arrives.

only cable from PC to moniter i have plugged in is the blue one, could that be the problem?

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>>61846638
>the blue one

>>61846056
Follow up to this
How important is qvl on ryzen now after all the updates? Would 3466 qvl be a better bet than like 4000, even assuming that I'd be running tighter timings with the 4000 and running it under spec? Ie. 3200?

>>61846654
this is the first time i've built a pc what's wrong with the blue one do i also have to use the white one for the screen to not be stretched to fuck?

>>61846622
I've heard good things about evga's ftw 3 card
The cpu should be fine

>>61846638
Blue is VGA(Video Graphics Array). White is DVI(Digital Video Interface).

>>61846685
Anon was giving you shit about term use.

As for the problem... I'm unsure. Are your drivers installed properly? What CPU? What is the old card?

>>61846696
Cheers lad.

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>Workstation Build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8NGBBP

>MUH GAYME$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j9WYD8

>Value for money

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xGGBBP

>Budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cq3cD8

>Super budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tcYPpb

>Broke

Old Thinkcentre (2nd gen i3 or better)
with a GTX 1050

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>>61846700
>Are your drivers installed properly?
How do I check?
>What CPU?
Ryzen 5 1600
>What is the old card?
Pic related

>>61846762
Okay. I will now get angry at you. Never, ever put anything relating to computers on a fucking carpet.

>>61846762
>four digit NVIDIA
Sweet fucking yeezus

>>61846803
it's on a transparent mat

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Rate my setup and suggest edits https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnzHKZ
Mainly looking for a better mobo without spending much more than I already am

People always go on about "Hurr durr you should only buy Seasonic PSUs", but how common is PSU failure anyways, as long as you buy from name brands and not no name shit from Aliexpress? And no, anecdotal evidence about how your PSU fried isn't evidence

>>61847022
Well, adding a GPU, storage, case and PSU would be a good start

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bd4XwV

4k or 1440p?

>>61847058
Sorry, should have mentioned this is an upgrade

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>>61847066
>LED RAM

>>61847110

whatever. shit looks cool when it pulses

i'm about to go full RGB in the next month

>>61846622
>Ryzen 5 1600x OC be fine when paired with a gtx 1080ti
Yup. I've seen tests where the 1600x is getting higher than the 1800x.

>>61847117
I too want to show my LGBT support with my computer parts

>>61847146

it's gonna be mostly red

for hot pussy

because i love hot pussy

>>61847066
3440 x 1440

>>61847151
I also enjoy some delicious boi pussi

>>61846750
>>Workstation Build
>2TB SSD
>2TB NVME

>MUH GAYME$
>2TB SSD
>2TB NVME
WEW LAD

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>>61847166

i gotta say, i don't get the hate against led ram

it's all for that aesthetic

my only gripe is that it doesn't coordinate with my mobo

>See 24" monitor for $45
>Think "price error"
>Go to check out
>"Item is not able to ship to your location."
Fuck.

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>>61847256
Because its gaudy and typically marketed towards 13 year olds building their first PC
I can understand wanting your internals to look cool, and I even like inner-case LEDs
But LEDs on the RAM is just too far

upgrading my current pc with ryzen/mobo/ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MZQ3Yr

tried to add as much things i currently have but some things aren't on this website

>Go to local thift store
>"Monitors : $5"
>See a 22" Dell
>Buy that shit and get home
>1680x1050
>No dead pixels
I finally found my first thrift store jackpot

>>61847337

i'm 28 and i was building my first pc.....

no regrets

Guys please I have a question. I know it's unrelated to /pcbg/ but if I'm using a free proxy. All sites know that I'm on proxy and they won't let me access their site. Now if I bought a proxy, would I be the only one who's using that IP? So in result sites won't know I'm using a proxy?

>>61847405
>>>/g/sqt/

>>61847338
pls r8

>>61847436
Nothing is answered there. So if you have any idea. Just say what you got

>>61847470
/g/ is not tech support, so just fuck off.

Built my PC a few weeks ago. Got a 1600X and a RX580 GPU. (Was able to grab one for a reasonable price, thankfully.) Having a slight problem with the 1600X and I figure this is probably the best thread to ask. For some reason, even when maxing my processor (Granted this has only happened when I've intentionally tried to max it out), my CPU doesn't seem to enter Boost Mode. Ive tried all 3 power settings, but I am using Windows 7 which might be the problem. Motherboard is a AB350 Gaming by Gigabyte.

>>61847338
>$60 meme cooler
also ugly as fuck, desu
>550W PSU
You are limiting yourself heavily for future upgrades

>>61847506
i know reading is hard but come on

>>61847482
Probably

>>61845526
the pro4 is nice , i have the matx version as its the only matx b350 board that can do crossfire and uses proper vrm heatsinks

>>61845578
>biostar
>good brand
pick one

>>61847520
Sorry, I assumed the things without a price were the thing you already owned
You can edit the list to not include items already purchased into the final price, you know

>>61847482
it only boosts on 2 cores , fully maxed out its limited to like 3.8ghz afaik , just use ryzen master to lock it at 4ghz @ 1.35v and see if that is stable , if not slowly lower the clock , 1.35v is what i would recommend for a daily only , not higher

>>61847600
>/g/ is NOT your personal tech support team
Literally in the sticky
Try googling your problems you mong

would i be able to notice the difference in DPI between 8200 and 16000?

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OK you sons of bitches.

I need an answer on this, and I have posted this question like 5 times now.

What case will fit this set up, and what wattage will be required?

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Talk me out of it.

Primarily for gaming, upgrading from a 3570k.

Gonna use a different case.

>>61847638
Figure it out yourself, faggot https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

>>61847638
650w psu is enough

TR 1950x pulls 140~160w
titan pulls 250+w
the rest is negligible and maybe is another 100w

>>61847657
that site is oudated as fuck and does not even have modern intel chips nor ryzen

>>61847653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

>>61847638
Any mid/full tower that supports a 360mm/420mm radiator would work. Do you want to do push/pull? If so make sure it has the room for that.

Two examples: Phanteks Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.

PSU depends on how far you will OC. At stock a 700W PSU would be enough, for OCing I would just get a 1000W and be done with it. It's overkill but it'll run quietly.

>>61847653
fuck no , buy a ryzen or threadripper
the performance on a perf/watt and perf/$ scale is garbage on x299

>>61847574
i feex

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HRNbj

>>61847653
7800X is a complete waste of money so if you like money then don't bother.

>>61847587
Yeah, Ive heard it only boosts on 2 cores, but its never gone higher than 3.6ghz according to AMD System Monitor. I'll probably OC all the cores to 4.0 eventually, I just dont wanna violate the warranty yet since Its brand new (And I sure as balls cant really afford a new one.), and I dont really need the additional dakka yet; my previous computer's CPU was a 560BE OC'd to 3.8ghz dual.

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>>61847693
>700w
agreed , thats enough
>1000w
are you insane? do people do this little research?

>itx just gets more and more popular
>hardly any new cases have 5.25 drive bays
>hardly any 3.5 bays
why do people just hate freedom and expandability

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>>61847684
???

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>>61847657

Yeah I would have just put it through the pc part picker also, but it doesn't have the threadripper and motherboard on their yet.

>>61847668

Hmm, seems quite low? Keep in mind I will have the cpu cooler also. If I pick a higher wattage I guess it will just regulate to the amount of power needed at the time?

>>61847693

Thanks, my main concern with the case was that somebody on here said that the new x399 motherboard will not fit on the mounts of a lot of cases?

>>61847693
>Two examples: Phanteks Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Luxe.

If these work I will definitely get one of them. I was thinking of pic related.

>>61847693
>PSU depends on how far you will OC. At stock a 700W PSU would be enough, for OCing I would just get a 1000W and be done with it. It's overkill but it'll run quietly.

Thanks I thought maybe 650 was a little low >>61847726
>>1000w

Would around 1000w really be a bad idea? Doesn't the power supply temper itself to how much being used anyway? Also it would give me the ability to upgrade with more GPU's or whatever in the future.

>>61847740
i stand corrected , last time i tried to use it (~3m ago) it was utterly useless

>>61847740

ah ty anon

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>>61847737
>5.25 drive bay in a small formfactor case

>>61847786
you can go w/ a 1000w if you really want , its just complete overkill
as i said , 650~700 is enough for that config , and allows for an extra card , only if you go 3+ cards it wont be enough
and if you are scared by the ~300w figure of the 1950x , thats at a 1.44v oc , wich is unsafe anyway , max recommended daily is 1.35 on zen cores

>>61847823
>small formfactor case
my point is that that shit is garbage to begin with you dumb nigger

>>61847823
shuttle pcs, earlyer ITX cases , they all had em and it worked
>>61847737
try the cougar QCX

>>61847786
>Thanks, my main concern with the case was that somebody on here said that the new x399 motherboard will not fit on the mounts of a lot of cases?
Bollocks. There are hardly any motherboards that don't follow the standard ATX form factors, and certainly none being sold to consumers.

>>61847847
maybe its a EATX and the case doesn't support it?

>>61847689
>>61847696
>>61847709
So then should I get a 7700k? Or a 1800X/1700X?

>>61847859
7700k if you want pure gaming performance
1700x if you want good gaming perf and way better multitasking perf

both are better than the 3570k by far

>>61847837
>it doesn't meet my needs so that means that the entire form factor is stupid
so don't use it
>>61847846
if the majority of people who buy them needed them then we'd still have them and what do yo know, the majority of people don't need to allocate space for 5.25 bays.

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>>61847831

If there are no downsides, I would maybe get something like a 1k watt power supply, but if there were downsides i would get something like a 700w as you recommend.

>>61847831
>and if you are scared by the ~300w figure of the 1950x , thats at a 1.44v oc , wich is unsafe anyway , max recommended daily is 1.35 on zen cores

yeah i wont be completely thrashing it

>>61847857
>>61847847

I think the person might have said the fractal r5 wouldn't work.

Do you think the Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition would be good?

>>61847930
downsides is cost , a 1k is usually a big markup from a 700w
and maybe if you are an efficency freak , as running a 1k at 60% or below will trash its efficiency (ideal load range is 75%+)

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>>61847960

What about this?

>>61847966
>seasonic
>80+ plat
>full modular and a fucktonn of 8pins

you cant get better than this , heck you can draw 1k from that and it wont even care

>>61847726
Tim @ OC3D pulled over 600W through a X399 board without a GPU load with an AIO cooler so if you really wanted to do that you still could with a 1000W PSU, not to mention you can also pull 300W from the titan with a higher power target. You would know this if only you did research :^).

>>61847786
1000W is fine for a high end system. Yes it's overkill but that's fine and you won't really need to worry about power if you want to add additional GPUs or whatever else.

>>61847977

Kek, sounds appealing. Someone recommended this brand yesterday. Might go for this then desu.

>>61847859
Depends on your usage really. If you're literally just gaming at 1080p@60hz then it doesn't really matter. If you really want to hit 144fps+ at 1080p then the 7700K is the best choice right now (although Coffee Lake is coming soon so I would wait for that reveal). For pretty much any other case I think a Ryzen 7 would be better.

>>61847984

Ok, so I should be safe at around 700 watts, but could go overkill at around 1000 but at least it would leave me a lot of room to add gpus etc later.

Anybody here owns a x370 taichi? Hows the bios and memory compatibility?

need help for my new rig.
I have 4 cores 4 threads i5-4690 and it's running most of the time at 80% CPU load average

If I get a ryzen 8-cores 16-threads, what my CPU load
will be ? 20% or like 37% ?
basically asking if the virtual threads are just a meme ? it's just marginal improvement right ?

>>61848182
>basically asking if the virtual threads are just a meme ? it's just marginal improvement right ?
Depends on the workload. It by no means doubles the performance(except maybe with IBM's 8-way SMT), but AMD's version of SMT appears to be similar to Hyperthreading performance-wise, so about 30% improvement compared to no SMT under good conditions.

Whats the best psu brand between corsair and evga?

>>61848235
When it comes to PSUs, I'd pick Evga over Corsair any time.

>>61848235
Depends on the models, EVGA and Corsair higher end PSUs are all excellent but the mid to low end ones feature some potatoes.

>>61848242
Care to elaborate a bit?

>>61848283
Im thinking about high end models (80+ gold)

>>61848319
From what I've read, the Corsair TX (or better) series PSUs are generally excellent and the EVGA G3 PSUs are excellent.

>>61848319
>Care to elaborate a bit?
Corsair has some less-than-great models, and they tend to be a bit pricy.

This what i've currently come up with

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sq4Rm8

Budget is around £800, in UK. Had to add wifi card, can take that off price really.
I'll be playing plenty of games, editing, nothing extreme. Don't care for looks.

Am I good to go? any improvements?

Of course I'm struggling with the constant price changes atm.

>>61848431
>>61848380
thanks

Guys i need a 1000€ pc gaming build with ryzen 5 1600, what can you suggest me?
*my first build btw, and i am fron italy (€)

>>61844823
>when the fuck is this mining craze going to die down?
>should I just start mining with this instead of gaming?

Mining is the future you idiot

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what about this

>>61848750
Get faster RAM, 2666MHz should be the minimum if you're buying Ryzen, and 3000MHz is preferable(but make sure it's on the QVL for the motherboard).

Consider dropping the SSD to EVO 850 or SU 800 or something similar(which should be a fair bit cheaper for the same capacity), NVMe SSDs are a meme and don't offer any benefits over SATA in normal use.

>>61848750
If that memory is single ranked, ditch it.
Find double ranked, they aren't that expensive and 2400Mhz delivers great performance.

>>61848785
>>61848786

>>61848448
looks good anon. check if you can pick ram from mobo QVL since you might not be able to hit 3000mhz easily with one you picked.

>>61848750
pick faster ram, 3000mhz at least
960 evo is a meme. you can get normal sata ssd for cheaper or pay ~20€ more for ~500gb.

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>>61848785
>>61848786
>>61848799

ok

I'm thinking of going for a 1tb Samsung 850 SSD instead of a 500gb + HDD, any cons to this?

>>61848798
Do you have any benchmarks for single/double ranked RAM on Ryzen? I don't think I've seen any that make mention of it.

>>61848815
yes you'll end up spending more.
i'd still use hdd for general storage. i don't have 1tb of data that would benefit from being on ssd.

>>61847693
>Any mid/full tower that supports a 360mm/420mm radiator would work.

Will a mid tower definitely fit this setup? >>61847638

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Pamięć Corsair Vengeance LPX, DDR4, 16GB(2x8GB), 3000MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R)

vs

Pamięć G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB)

I want this for Ryzen 1700x and MSI B350 TOMAHAWK Motherboard

Can I OC Corsair to 3200MHz without problems?

>>61848815
Pros
>Don't have to think about where to store files and programs
>No HDD vibration noises

Cons
>More expensive in gb per dollar
>Data storage doesn't utilize the full speed of your SSD

Well after hours or reading it is clear that the only thing worth upgrading in my 6 year old system is an SSD

>>61848815
SSDs are too expensive to rely on for storage by themselves
Boot drive only, store your other shit on platters

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Of course, now when I can finally afford a new Radeon there aren't any available

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>>61848836
While DR isn't as perfect of a scale as faster SR, DR is still cheaper than high clocked memory and requires no heatsink.

>>61848913
I have that corsair ram with an R7 1700 and a ASUS prime x370 pro, can't get them higher than 2800MHZ (16-17-17-35) at 1.35V. There are actually 2 versions of that ram, ver4 has samsung b-die memory and works pretty well, ver5 (which is what you'll get if you buy new now) has hynix memory and that's shit with AMD. From what i've seen reading around various forums, G.Skill tends to work better on AMD.

>>61849140
Huh. I still wouldn't go for 2400MHz, DR or no.

>>61849184
you have to choose your battles, if you are on a budget and can only afford 2400Mhz memory, then DR is flat out better

>>61847358
Lucky bastard

>>61844664
What X370 board is recommended? I mostly want it for the extra SATA and Usb ports

Rate this. I'm trying to do lowest as possible. Anyone got any tips?

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What power supply and wattage? Plus what cpu cooler?

Is Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 or Noctua NH-C14S good?

>>61849285
Get the msi x370 krait

>>61849377
Fug forgot link.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YGMfTH

>>61849285
ASUS Strix or ASRock Taichi

Is GPU sagging a thing of the past? Cases with vertical mounting are more expensive, hard to find and on top of that I'd have to get riser cable which brings the price even higher. That really only leaves me with cases where motherboard is laying flat which mostly are mATX but there aren't high end X370 boards for that size.

>>61847256
The rave inside your case gets tiring real quick.

>>61849421
I heard asrock was shitty, as shilled from /g?

>>61849471
The Taichi is solid, dunno about other boards

>>61849471
>I heard asrock was shitty, as shilled from /g?
Not anymore, it appears.

>>61849471
ASRock used to be a complete joke, budget shit for people who didn't mind playing russian roulette with their other hardware

apparently their AM4 boards are at least "not bad", though they did EOL one board already, which is bullshit

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>>61849471

Should I worry about my PSU sucking in hot air from my 1080ti?

>>61849646
MY PENIS IS HARD

>>61849471
there's only one paid anti-shill >>61849561 shitting up every thread when people mention asrock.
their am4 boards are decent, with the exception of gaming k4.

>>61849548
ASRock is a sister company to ASUS. Gigabyte and MSI should be avoided at all costs imo.

>>61849471
asrock was always shady, making things that barely meet the requirements to slap it on to the box, like their first USB3.0 support was just fast enough to not be counted as USB2.0
Or even their new B350 board appears to have 6+3 phases when in reality it has 3+3.

As for build quality, I didn't see any real reason to suspect they are any worse than anyone else.

>>61849638
If its a shit tier model and operating close to max wattage yes. With a decent reasonably sized psu no.

>>61849378
Na allegro były nowe Supernova G2 po ~320zł ale chyba już się skończyły. W takiej cenie masz teraz Corsair TX550M i cichszy Seasonic G-550. Szanse są, że nie uda ci się uzyskać pełnej prędkości na tych RAMach. Za 659,50zł masz 3200MHz, które są na QVL. Noctua DH-15 jeden z najlepszych coolerów, ale IMO na Ryzenie się bedzie marnować, bo i tak wyżej niż 4.0GHz nie pojedziesz. Ja bym brał SilentiumPC Grandisa - połowa ceny za 90% wydajności takiej Noctuy (zobacz recenzję na FrazPC z wykresami).
Moja rada: unikaj Morele i poszukaj alternatywy. Znam wiele osób, które miałt z tym sklepem same problemy.

>vega 56 is on the 28th of sept
Why so long?

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Would you keep the 7700k when Coffee Lake comes out?

I have more money than sense.

I feel like I bought a turd of a CPU, I didn't do any research and had no idea Intel were upping the core count.

>>61849893
Coffee lake hexacores most likely won't clock as high as the 7700k, and nothing we've seen so far suggests that they'll have significantly higher IPC, either. The 7700k will stay the best gaming CPU until games start using all those extra cores.

>>61849669
What is wrong X370 fatal1ty gaming k4? Apart from being a gaymen board. Reviews seems to be fine.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zhpjr7

Been slowly assembling some of these parts over the last month or so
Waiting for prices to drop on vidya, or might just carry my 660 over while I wait if there's a big processor price drop in the meantime
The Noctua is going on the heatsink, that should be one hell of a cooler

Am I doing anything obviously wrong?

Static presdure or airflow fans for a filtered front intake? Aircooling in Define S. Google gives conflicting results

>>61848799
Thanks. Little confused by the QVL list, but I found this http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_B350-PLUS/PRIME_B350-PLUS_Memory_QVL_20170704.pdf
Seems to not have that RAM, so maybe I'll stick with Corsair Vengeance LPX at 3000mhz. Think it says there's a little lost using a Ryzen CPU (3000=2933).
Should I find a different mobo? Or is the loss negligible?

>>61849997
>gaming k4
http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5331&PN=12&title=x370-gaming-k4-new-bios-with-agesa-1006a
"I don't either. The X370 Gaming K4 is now EOL(End of Life) and as such BIOS support will begin to dwindle sooner rather than later I'm afraid."

>>61849967
>Coffee lake hexacores most likely won't clock as high as the 7700k, and nothing we've seen so far suggests that they'll have significantly higher IPC, either. The 7700k will stay the best gaming CPU until games start using all those extra cores.

Yeh. An overclocked 7700k will be fine.

I know shitloads of people myself included had a 2500k running beautifully in 2011, and we've done maybe 2 completely pointless CPU upgrades since then.

It's just like a mental illness.

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I was looking into a liquid cooling system on my next PC, but I've never assembled one before. Is there a recommended list of parts to use? I mainly need a pump to move fluid, the rest of things I have.

Also, M.2 slots for storage, how well do they work? Would I be better off instead just buying 4 256GB SSDs and running them as a RAID 0 for speed/space vs a single high speed 1 TB M.2 SSD, or would most motherboards bottleneck trying to write to four drives all at once? Do M.2 based drives have any sort of software issues that make them preform more erratically than SATA SSDs?

>>61850064
If you have "the rest of the things" but haven't stumbled upon the fanatical way people insist on two particular models of pumps you haven't done your research properly

>>61848891
>>61848948
>>61849056

Thanks for the input. I was afraid my 500gb would fill up quite fast with some games taking over 50gb of space, but i guess i should just put some of them on a regular hdd if needed.

>>61850203
Get a 1TB drive at 7200 RPM, then however much more space you want/need at 5400 RPM

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Please help. I'm considering pic related. Is an SSHD. It's a normal 7,200RPM mechanical drive with an 8GB SSD portion to help handle transfers and it prioritizes load times for programs that are frequently loaded or used. (I.e. games)

So as it stands, my 500GB SSD is no longer cutting it when single games are as large as 120GB. I intend to install games on this HDD that aren't impacted by low disk speed (dark souls, multiplayer games)

Am I making a mistake in buying this over say, a standard mechanical? I have 2 x 1TB 7,200rpm disks as is. Would them in RAID 0 be a better option?

>>61850314
Don't. Hybrid drive's only purpose is to appeal to poorfag laptop buyers

>>61850336
I see. So would raid 0 on 2x1TB 7,200rpm drives help with load times at all? I know raid 0 can crash and burn taking all the data with it, but their purpose would be for nothing more than dedicated game install space.

Basically I would keep any open world game on the SSD to avoid hitching while keeping multiplayer stuff on the mechanical because game lobbies only load as fast as the slowest player anyway to start a match.

So I bought an NH D15 and while it fits in my case it's making cabling a fucking nightmare, I basically have to shrink my hand to fit it in the fucking gaps to plug in shit like the CPU, any advice? Board is a Gigabyte b350 gaming.

What's a good low profile fan for the Cooler master 130 ITX case? The fan I had lying around and was planning to use is way too tall, also it was slightly wider than 120mm so it had issues with RAM clearance.

>>61850361
>I see. So would raid 0 on 2x1TB 7,200rpm drives help with load times at all?
There's some overhead, so obviously it won't be quite twice as fast, but it will be faster, yes.

>1600x

do i need a high end x370 asus shit to oc to 4.0ghz or just a cheap x370 ones will do?

>>61850426
A decent B350 should do assuming you're not particularly unlucky with the silicon lottery.

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Noob here, been researching for only about a week after recently coming into a couple grand and finally want to build, but every site says to wait on it due to gpu prices.

Is it really that serious? Are we talking saving <$100 or more like 250+ if I wait? Budget is 1500 max if that helps

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how the fuck am I going to get this cpu cable in there Jesus Christ I'm tilted

>>61850594
GPU prices are all inflated because of crypto-currency miners. Aka faggots. In turn, Nvidia cards are over-priced because lack of any other option due to AMD always being sold out. However, at $1500 price tag, you could easily afford a good non TI gtx 1080. Depends on what your use case is. And does that $1500 include the cost of a monitor?

>>61850375
I've always found that installing ny D14 egen the mobo is already installed is not at all hard so maybe try dismounting the cooler?

>>61850167
The "rest of the things" are easy to find with a little research: a copper block that properly fits the components and provides good contact, piping and a fluid with high heat transfer, and a radiator/fan combo that can properly cool the fluid. The pump, however, I know much less about, which is why I'm asking the audience on that topic. I would at least like some details on what I should look for on a coolant pump in a device if not a recommendation.

Running a 4790k and 16gb of DDR3 Ram, 2Gb RX270 Card, Wondering if I need to upgrade anything soon and if anything Wanting to mostly upgrade the graphics card, what would be a decent upgrade for me? I don't really care about 4k gaming and have no space for VR and will probably just be doing 1080p stuff.. but I want to play more recent titles

>>61850702
Would be for gaming. And no, monitor would not be included in my budget.

Thanks for your input sir

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Hey, poor east euro here. I want to upgrade my CPU to FX-6300 for which I will also need an AM3+ socket motherboard. Can I just go with ASUS M5A78L (which is probably the cheapest AM3+ socket MB I can find) or should I go for something more expensive? I only have one midrange GPU and 1TB HDD

>>61850906
How much money would the upgrade cost you, total, compared to something like a cheap H110 MOBO and a g4560?

>>61850832
Then don't worry. The cards biggest hit by the inflation are the gtx 1060s and 1070s seeing as they're "mid-range".

At a $1500 price point, don't go with less than a gtx 1080. A 1080ti would be a sound investment as well if you intend to keep your PC for a while. 11GB of vram and more than capable at even 4k. Only downside is it's price point. $750-ish.

>>61850827

If you buy a 1060 6GB then you'd be set for a couple more years

>>61850918
110 euros for both, which seems really reasonable to me. The 6300 has like 55 euro discount for a limited time, I need to decide today

>>61850962
Well, although I'd generally recommend staying away from AM3+, that's a pretty good deal. I'm not too sure about that specific motherboard, but apparently ASUS boards are generally pretty good.

How future proof is a 1070 compared to a 1080?

>>61851029
thanks bro. Its not like I need to play games on 4k 1080p or anything. Medium high settings on witcher or TW are enough for me

>>61851064
Performance wise, a 1070 is essentially a gtx 980ti with 8GB ram as opposed to 6. You'll Excel at 1080p and 1440p for years without an issue. Up to you if you want to spend $400 vs $500 for a 1070 vs 1080.

>>61851116
O.K, good to know, brand-wise are there any issues with cards made by any specific manufacturer, ASUS for example

>>61850013
Yeah, drop the 1600x for the 1600.

The cooler that comes with the 1600 is probably better than the one you picked. Either get a better >$35 cooler or stick to the stock one, which is pretty good by itself.

>>61851150
Asus is ok. However if you're looking to hold onto a quality card for a while, EVGA is the go to brand of choice when buying Nvidia. Been buying them since the gtx 4xx series and never had a dead card or issue. And customer service is good.

Asus is fine if the price difference is large. I personally stay away from all gigabyte products.

I put a build together and everything seems stable, but once in a while the motherboard makes a weird high pitched beep/buzz once and then is fine

whatd i do wrong

I'm new to building, and someone's gonna help me put something together.
how does this part list look? any chokepoints?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGXsGf

>>61851423
Terrible. No-one should ever buy a 7740x. You're wasting $300 on motherboard features you won't be able to use.

>>61851423
>Quad core in current year
>Even considering X299, the biggest laughingstock since bulldozer

what can i do with an old dying 6770 just laying around

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Is it finally time to upgrade? I need MOAR RAM POWER (64GB DDR4 at least) but I want to stick with an SFF PC for portability. Is AMD Threadripper the one to go for?

I haven't upgraded this thing for years and years now :(

>>61851423
Yeah, what those other guys are saying. That CPU is a big no-no. Plus I'd prefer you didn't give Intel money. Giving Intel money is literally funding a criminal organization

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PXqzM

Can I get some rates or hate? Main use will be gaming. New to the building game so any feedback would be appreciated. I can flex an additional $250 if the difference would be worth it.

>>61851719
If got nothing to say. If I had the money myself I'd be doing the exact same upgrade to my pc. Have fun

>>61851690
No. Threadripper is E-ATX and ATX only currently although there may matx boards available in the future. Your best bet is Ryzen on an it board, but even then you're limited to 32GB ram total (16GB per module).

Why do you need the cores and ram?

>>61851230
Go to /sqt/ for one. Also if you visit your motherboard manufacturers website they'll tell you what the beep means.

>>61851807
I remember there used to be quad-channel LGA2011 mini-ITX boards, so there isn't anything like that recent?

I do a lot of media and content creation on the go and laptops are just not reliably fast enough for me (at a reasonable cost).

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>>61851719
Be sure to get proper cooling for the CPU. NH-D15 is commonly recommended for top of the line air cooling. Though installing those big towers can be annoying.

>>61851833
>I remember there used to be quad-channel LGA2011 mini-ITX boards, so there isn't anything like that recent?
Threadripper just came out. There probably will be mITX boards for it, but that might take a while.

>>61851690
what mouse is that?

>>61851833
>I remember there used to be quad-channel LGA2011 mini-ITX boards, so there isn't anything like that recent?

>I do a lot of media and content creation on the go and laptops are just not reliably fast enough for me (at a reasonable cost

mITX boards have always only been 2 ram slots except for weird server motherboards. And as it is, an mITX seems unlikely for Threadripper simply because of socket size. However, if you were to get an itx board, ryzen-1800X, and dual 16GB modules, you'd be essentially doubling your current performance as it is all while maintaining your SFF platform.

If you absolutely need what Threadripper offers you'll have to go full ATX. Then you can run 32 threads of fury and 128GB RAM. I still recommend the first option though.

>>61851855
There's barely any ITX for Ryzen so I'm not holding my breathe for Threadripper getting one.

>>61851867
SteelSeries Kana Black V2, I wouldn't recommend it for serious gaming. It has a little bit of noticeable latency.

>>61850594
Cards at the price range of $200 have rocketed to <$500.
You'd be assisting in your own theft if you were to purchase now. But high end like 1080 1080ti have been unaffected

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>>61851855
>>61851880
>>61851883
Damn, okay the latest I've seen is this ASRock X299E-ITX/ac. I really want multi-threaded performance with the memory to back it up....

>>61850426
B350 is suitable

>>61851923
>Damn, okay the latest I've seen is this ASRock X299E-ITX/ac. I really want multi-threaded performance with the memory to back it up....


Well for one, X299 is a bad joke. Terrible performance and terrible price. Two, those ram slots are SO-DIMM. Laptop ram. You'll be paying out the nose for good 16GB ddr4 SO-DIMM modules. Then there is the fact that SFF is tight on space, and X299 is NOT known for running cool. At all.

>>61851947
So it seems like waiting for mini-ITX Threadripper is the only suitable solution for me :(

>>61851974
Well like I said, you could always go itx X370 and Ryzen 1800X.

Do you currently NEED the 16c/32t and 64GB ram of Threadripper? Or just for overkill purposes? Because 8c/16t and 32GB of ram is literally double your current build.

>>61850037
Anyone? Need some help.

>>61852029
It's for work so yeah I would prefer the best possible performance within my constraints.

>>61847859
1700

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So. From what im finding out. RX Vega will not release until September? and the 64 version releasing even later? someone please help me out and spoondfeed me because its from my point of view very vague as so what amd is stating. and now im starting to read 56 is launching september and the 64 even later? if this is so, this is ridiculous at this point im just gunna buy a 1080 ti

>>61846676
I use a R5 1600 on my MSI Gaming Pro X370 board. 16GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX rated at 3200mhz, however I can't get over 3000mhz stable.
Just built a pc for my cousin, R3 1200 @ 3.9 and 8GB of Hyper X 3200 on an AsRock B350 board (not on this board's QVL).. his RAM OCs to 3200 no problem.

tl:dr QVL was never important, it's all a guessing game. It's bullshit, but I'm okay with 3000 for now.

>>61846298
Hope you have better luck with your TridentZ.. couldn't get mine over 2166.. different board, though, so don't get too discouraged.

>>61852461
you're delusional if you think you'll manage to find rx vega in stock this year

>>61852525
>>61852461
Also who knows if the 64 will come close to the 1080ti wait another week or so for benchmarks.

So it looks like my Fractal R5 has 3 fan cables in the back, but I already plugged my case fans into sysfan slots in the motherboard

What the fuck are these cables for?

>>61852555
might be for an external fan controller

>>61849377
>>61849389
pls respond

>>61852525
of course. its like they want to never release it. either way if its in september i don't even care to wait anymore.
>>61852548
>WAIT
i guess ill wait till next friday, i have high hopes for amd and really want that copyrighted team rocket logo on my gpu. like realy bad. but if its not out on the 14th i just gunna go for a 1080 ti

>>61852620
we already know rx vega 64 is nowhere close to gtx 1080ti. just buy it

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>>61852689
But anon everyone knows they're sandbagged

how much is a 1060 6GB normally? how can I tell when its normal price again?

Do the x370 mobos worth the price over b350 mobos?

Is it normal for every slot in the front panel connectors to not be filled depending on the case?

I only have one power LED and no speaker thing or chassis intrusion

>>61852755
they used to be ~230$ before cryptofag ruined it.

>>61852829
and how about the rx480 8gb?

>>61852857
About the same.

>>61852829
thanks, does anyone know the german amazon price tho?

>>61852984
i bought mine on launch for almost 300€

Finally got my Phanteks Evolv ITX and an H87N-WiFi and transfered all the parts from the old case to this one, but it bootloops. I have found that you can use an old CPU from that gen and update the BIOS to work with mine (i5 4460). A friend has an i5-4570, will it be old enough?
Also, is there any other way to update it? While I was transferring all the shit, I binned two pins and I don't feel like fix them right now.

>>61852984
https://www.amazon.de/Dual-GTX1060-O6G-GeForce-Grafikkarte-Speicher-Displayport/dp/B01IPFN7UQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502474117&sr=8-1&keywords=1060+6gb

https://www.amazon.de/Dual-GTX1060-O6G-GeForce-Grafikkarte-Speicher-Displayport/dp/B01IPFN7UQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502474117&sr=8-1&keywords=1060+6gb

looks like we good, but which brand should I get? I heard palit uses higher quality materials ?

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Falling for the ITX meme.

Thinking of getting a cheaper cpu cooler and picking up a volta card when they release.

>>61853156
You posted the same card twice, anon.

I've assembled my Ryzen 1700 PC and it boots into BIOS and all (after I remembered to plug in CPU cable). However, the idle temp it shows in BIOS seems really high, it climbed up to 55C and stays here. Now, it's pretty damn hot in my room (~27 degrees) and I might've fucked up thermal paste application (I removed the stock paste and replaced it with MX-4 but that didn't go smoothly at all, I smudged it all over pins and had to go and by some alcohol to clean it up). I also damaged the soft surface of the cooler a bit when installing it for the first time, but that's what paste is for, right?

>>61853447
Oh, also the cooler is working at about 1200 RPM currently, I believe it sets its own pace.

>>61853374
>Intel
Why not Ryzen? ITX boards that aren't Biostar garbage exist now.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4YkwrH/gigabyte-ga-ab350n-gaming-wifi-rev-10-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350n-gaming-wifi-rev-10

Is a Ryzen 1700x compatible with a 2 x 8 kit of DDR4-3000 Team Dark RAM?

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Shoud I make my first poor build?
Pentium gtx 1050 my monitor is also broken so I'll be buying a new one I'll be getting this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sR8Tyf


I'm from Mexico btw

Hey guys, i don't really know much about gaming pc's but does this seem like a good pc?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4kcpb

I'm from the Netherlands and I would like to use it to play some games like CS:GO, overwatch, pubg etc. And maybe some new titles. (Not sure yet)
I will also use it to do some coding.
What kind of Graphics card would go with a build like this?
Do you even recommend buying a graphics card now since every card is out of stock and the prices are insane?

>>61853684
Designing around gaming and a lot of trusted sources say the 7600k is better suited.

>>61853447
OK so people are saying it might be a BIOS problem, I need to install [spoiler]Windows[/spoiler] and check with some proper tool, and/or update BIOS.

I mean it started showing CPU temp at about 47C and I don't think I heated it up before turning on power...

>>61853836
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sR8Tyf
By the way, I want to upgrade the pc later on with some more RAM and a SSD.

>>61853821
Yes, but whatever motherboard you're getting might not be able to run the kit at that frequency.

So my bios won't boot, I see all my fans get power and my monitor is turning on but nothing happens on it

Where should I start trouble shooting? CPU fan also turned on and so did the graphics card fans

Power button has LEDs lit

>>61853836
jezus rstakker

>>61846370
lol this is exactly what my friend said haha
Another poster here >>61846328
said you're a moron for saying so of my mobo.

Well, I do definitely understand the 1x8 2400mhz part. It isn't optimal to have one stick ofc, but I'm just testing out if I really need 16gb RAM, so when I get a 1x8 and see how everything runs for a month I'll probably get 2x8.

Would it be bad to have 2 coolers? I know the stock cooler I have is clearly superior. Just asking.

How could i make sure that i've seated my cpu correctly without taking it off?

>>61853917
does it beep at all?

>>61852728
That's what (((they'd))) like you to think

>>61853855
your trusted sources are trash.
The only Intel CPU worth buying is the 7700k, and only if you're goinig for 144 fps gaming.
Beyond that, the best bang for buck CPU for gaming at the moment is the AMD Ryzen 5 1600.
>But the Intel
The i5 7600k hits its limit in modern games and although it has higher peak fps (which you can only take advantage of if you have a 120+ Hz monitor), it also has lower lows because the CPU utilization is so damned high. By contrast, the 1600 mas maybe 5-10 fps lower than the i5, but is much more stable and provides a smoother experience.

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>>61853855
i5 is only worth it heavily discounted

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>>61853855
>trusted sources

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I'm going to try to move my Windows 7 install from a Skylake i3 to a Ryzen system without reinstalling, how much of a wild ride am I in for

>>61853924
Wat is er mis mee?

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how do i stop coil whine?

>>61854558
turn off your pc

>>61853858
Im probably wrong but I remember hearing that ryzen automatically offsets temperatures by like 20°C. So if your temp is 30°C it'll read as 50°C.
Just check that out. Also you should always read the manual's

>>61854613
Maar wat zou je eraan aanpassen? Ik heb nog geen video kaart gevonden, maar ik dacht dat het al best decent was. 8gb RAM kan ik altijd nog bijkopen en een SSD ook.

>>61853821
What this guy said.>>61853874
Check out the motherboards compatibility QVL. It'll tell you all

>>61854618
That's what X CPUs do.

>>61853823
What do you want it for? This is worse than my poor mans build from 4 years ago. Though I spent $1000

>>61854558
replace your gpu/psu

>>61854636
is je lijst veranderd? zou zweren dat die net anders was, is best netjes nu alleen misschien om kosten te besparen wachten op die ryzen3 icm 1060 3gb

>>61853917
Could be ram. Plug it into another slot. As well as try pulling out the CMOS battery for a few minutes to reset the bios to factory

>>61854221
Kick it ;^)

>>61854727
Haha nee man was de heletijd al zo.
Bedankt voor de tip.
Zal een 1060 3gb goed genoeg zijn om een jaartje of twee mee te gaan?

should i pair the ryzen 7 1700 with a gtx1070 or go all the way for 1080ti?

budget is not really an issue, but i just dont want to regret it later

>>61854479
I'm also interested in this.
>>61854666
>dem trips
Look like Satans might just be the cause

>>61854773
godverdomme ik zie dingen :D:D::D:D:D:D
aangezien elke game behalve gekke indies console first gemaakt worden zullen er vast geen gekke sprongen zijn dus ik gok dat die nog wel langer mee gaat

>>61854235
my board didn't come with a speaker plug that i could find

>>61854778
depends on your resolution. for 1080p gtx1070 is fine
for 1440p/4k you want 1080/1080ti

>>61854740
>>61854235
I should also mention that it's a gigabyte b350

and I'm pretty sure the ram is in, I installed it into the compatible Channels and heard the click when it went in and then put the clips back up

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>>61854408
But for gaming only builds the benchmarks are much better on i5s than Ryzen cpus.

>>61854886
no they aren't

>>61854806
Alright man bedankt!
Weet je toevallig ook wat een goede prijs is? lol sorry voor de vele vragen.
Ben echt nieuw in het bouwen van computers.

>>61854857
ah right
i have one of those korean 1440p 27inch monitors
i guess ill go with the 1080ti

hopefully a new card doesnt come out soon and fuck me in the ass

>>61854909
ik gebruik altijd die shit van tweakers, als je daar een lijst maakt kun je kijken waar het goedkoop is en wat de evt verzendkosten zijn

oh trouwens misschien moet je nog even zoeken naar snellere ram, zou het niet gek veel duurder maken maar dat zou goed zijn voor ryzen zeggen ze

>>61854930
you mean those that can overclock well? yeah 1080ti seems to be a good idea.
also even if new cards come out soon don't beat yourself over it. there's always something new on the horizon.

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>>61854897
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/3885vs3920

Do I wait for the 21st for coffee lake announcement?

>>61854950
Ja ben ik ook van plan om te gaan doen, maar alle grahics cards zijn nu dus overpriced of uitverkocht.

Thanks man!

kanker

>>61855132
>userbenchmark
you're officially retarded

>>61854874
also Is it possible i already broke something or should this be saveable still

>>61854874
My own ram was plugged in fine for like 2 years. Then one day my computer didn't want to start. Kind of a boot loop. Alls I did was move the ram into the other slot and it was fine. Not sure what I did cause both slots and ram work perfectly fine. But the computer boots fine now

>>61855300
But dumb youtube benchmarks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBbJtOPUVcU