/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>61613742
1st for rtings

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61613745

Please respond.

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>>61613763
Wow guess I should buy another HD 800 S

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>>61613763
>rtings

>>61613784
ZS5 with KZ bluetooth cable

So, I'll finally pull the trigger and get a Modi 2. Does the Modi 2 Uber allows me to have the AMP pluged and a pair of speakers at the same time or do I need something else? If not, I'll just get the regular Modi 2 and then I'd change source when using the speakers as I won't care about sound quality on these, at all.

I'll pair the Modi 2 with a O2 AMP and DT880 Pro (250ohm). Is that a too dangerous mix?

>>61613839
>do I need something else?
You need a preamp, if your O2 doesn't have one then you'll want something like a Schiit Sys or to replace your O2 with a Magni 2 Uber.

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>not wanting headphones that can also give you a head massage

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>>61613839
DT880 treble is very dangerous for your hearing.

>>61613857
just eq them

>>61606037
Bumb.

>>61613857
But I've been using them for some months now, maybe half a year, and I only notice that on very bright tones like a dude fucking smashing like the stronkest!! in the world a piano with high volume.

>>61613873
I'm not used to EQ because it makes me think that I'll lose audio quality. I use foobar2k, where shgould I start?

>>61613853
I'll maybe get a preamp then if it's not too much expensive.

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>>61613908
>I'll maybe get a preamp then if it's not too much expensive.
Did you not get an O2 model that has a preamp? Head'N'Hifi do it

I actually miss my gunmetal O2+ODAC it was really nice

>>61613908
>because it makes me think that I'll lose audio quality
You will not. Your audio quality will improve dramatically if you do it correctly.

>>61613913
I don't know how I can tell. It has the wheel, power and "boost" button. I remember I got the x1/x3,3 version because they said it's better for DAC users because I was planing on gettim a DAC after it, but no money back then.

Anyway, I'll stick with the O2 and switch cables or source in the PC since I'll just get a sub 50€ speakers. I only use speakers when there is anyone in my house and we are watching something on my PC, so sound quality isn't a requeriment.


>>61613963
Then what do.

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>>61614000
>I don't know how I can tell
RCA outputs in the rear

>>61614015
Oh, no, it only has the power input there. I didn't want stuff that I would maybe rarelly use. I guess I could have got it, but meh, it's ok.

Also, I think I have read before that someone tweaked his Modi 2. Is it worth it and how do I do that?

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>>61614000
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/
Pic attached is a reference graph. More reference graphs available at http://en.goldenears.net/11302

>>61613857
Bullshit, present to reliable source on that.
The few articles puclished on the subject of prominent regions of FR being dangerous talk about Beats and deviations far greater than that.

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>>61614128
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/
DT880's treble peak measures about the same as DT990's: >>61613857

>>61614235
>Goldenears
Unreliable

>>61614280
"No."

>>61614287
Ok then by your standards the DT880 have a treble dip

>>61614235
Wow, an Opinion on the internet! Now that's what i call a good argument, you should be a member of the academy with such sources.

>>61614293
>>61613857 and >>61614113 are consistent with one another, they just use different compensation curves. They both show the same general shape from the bass through the treble.

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>>61614321
>headphone.com
Stop posting.

Also here's your treble dip DT880 from your favorite cherrypicked site GoldenEars

>>61614340
Provide a link to the webpage that graph is from. That measurement is extremely inconsistent with the many, many DT880 measurements available.

>>61614382
http://goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&page=8&document_srl=5709845

Why don't you stop exposing yourself as a newfag

>>61614393
I have no explanation for that measurement. It's incredibly inconsistent compared to every other DT880 measurement I've ever seen. It is a severe outlier. It could be a measurement error. It could be an unrepresentative sample of DT880. It could be a revised model. That's honestly baffling.

>>61614453
GoldenEars don't have a consistent measurement methodology.

>>61614482
Measurement error is only one of many possible explanations for that measurement. Your statement is baseless.

>>61614536
Your blind trust in GoldenEars is also baseless.

>>61614552
Your statement is a strawman. The matching graph shapes of >>61613857 and >>61614113 tell us that both of those measurements are likely accurate.

>>61614573
Basically you need to stop posting until you learn a thing or two about frequency response measurements and the methedologies surrounding them.

I know you're proud of the fact that you learned the basics of interpreting a graph last week but please stop being so obnoxious about it and using it to push your shitty opinions and agenda.

>>61613742
600 owner here. Is the kz zs5 meme real? I need a new chink IEM but I'm holding off buying it.

>>61614593
Put your tripcode back on, DiPolar.
>get proven wrong
>hurr you can't read graphs
At least use a different trolling modus operandi if you're going to post as anon.

>>61614610
I love that random anons accuse other random anons of being me <3. You fuckers are being degraded to paranoid schizophrenic tendencies over fucking headphones.

>>61614610
>calling out a personal boogeyman
now that's pretty pathetic, not to mention how you want to look well informed but is ok with using >>61614235 as sources.

>>61614600
I always recommend kz's to my friends looking for the "cheap but still decent" iem.

>>61614801
I'm very flattered this guys anus is stretched out by my existence and my taboo belief that there are better headphones than the meme600s for less than $300.

is it a good idea to have something as expensive as Shure SE215 to use for the gym or whatever?

Would IEMs isolate better than closed headphones?

>>61614919
>Would IEMs isolate better than closed headphones?
Generally, yes.

>>61614839
I don't even mind that they like the HD600, i don't find it bad or anything, i just find absurd the amount of shitposting done to defend a headphone that has it's faults like any other while bashing other headphones that are not half as bad as they claim, it's clear they never tested more than one or two, hell, they might not even have an HD600 as far as i know.

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>>61615006
It's called post-purchase rationalization.

>>61615006
>>61615019
Put your trip back on

I get the impression a good percentage of the Beyer/Senn shitposting (both positive and negative posts) is insincere and done solely to make others angry.

>>61615061
Why else would HD600 shitposters post at all?

If the headphones were as good as they say they were they'd actually be listening to music with them instead of jerking off to cherrypicked frequency response graphs and shitposting on /hpg/ after they got shunned from r/headphones.

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>>61615061
>done solely to make others angry
As one of the beyerposters it's the only reason I do it, to get assblasted HD 600 owners to start spamming FR graphs and other shit at me

>>61615081
Nice inspect element

>>61615108
Nice damage control

>>61615108
>He honestly thinks I post without the trip

:^) >>>/r/headphones you can jerk off to cherry picked meme600 graphs and schiitstacks there

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>shitposting and being mad instead of enjoying your headphones
Come on guys.

>>61615429
>too poor for Utopias
>buys worse HD650s instead
why?

>>61615440
Utopias use more plastic than elears. If I wanted a plastic headphone I'd buy HD800s (which I will later).

>>61615440
Probably because those are better than anything Sennheiser makes.

>>61615462
Not really, the Elear takes the HD 650 frequency response and adds a Beyer treble peak to it.

>>61615488
No, it takes the HD600 and craters the upper mids. I don't hear the 10K peak at all relative to HD600s. With EQ they're (obviously) great.

>>61615507
>No, it takes the HD600
Why would it take a worse headphone?

>>61615488
So what you're saying is the Elear is taking the HD 650 FR and fixing it by adding the treble back in.

>>61615518
No? The treble is rolled off there's just one sharp spike that kills your ears if you aren't deaf.

>>61615517
I'm just describing the FR as I hear it and how it measures on some graphs.
>>61615518
It has a lot less lower treble which is an issue that can be fixed with EQ. Upper treble is fine. The spike isn't nearly as bad as the graphs show.

>>61615518
Shhhh you don't wanna trigger him into shitposting cherry picked fqr graphs that he misinterprets as accurate.

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>>61615559
Maybe I do :^)

>>61615558
If you were going to 'fix' headphones by EQing you should have bought the HD800 then. You can get them much cheaper than the Elear, they're infinitely more comfortable (Elear's cups are smaller than the fucking HD600/650 which are already small unless you're a woman) and its imaging is unparalleled, which you can try and fail to emulate with because it's still not entirely understood.

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>>61615587
:^)

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61615606
I'm picking up a pair of those later. The build on the elears is one of the best out there, and they're really nice looking to boot. The cups are bigger than the HD600 though, although the pads aren't as deep.

>>61615587
Note the HD 600 owner is banging on the walls, he's trying to hear some bass that his shit nobass HD 600 can't produce

How prevalent are counterfeit headphones?

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>>61615607
hmmm....

>>61615633
The pad openings are smaller which render the larger cupsize useless.

As for the looks that's a matter of taste, I used to hate the look of the HD800 but it grew on me. They look awesome for photos and they always give off that 'high end' vibe, which is probably why they're always features in photos of meets etc.

I still don't really regret selling my HD800 though I barely use headphones now so the HD6XX covers any small session I want.

What does AKG stand for? How do I insult AKG owners with a witty corruption of their brand name?

>>61615674
The best insult to AKG is no insult, they're so irrelevant that they aren't worth mentioning.

>>61615647
Then he strikes his own skull to hopefully stimulate the stereocilia in his ear and allow him to hear the veiled treble of the hd600s.

>>61615671
They're a lot wider and only slightly shorter which personally fits my ears slightly better.

I'm I interested in owning the 800 as it was the original "holy shit this is so expensive for a headphone" for me, as well as for the soundstage/imaging qualities. I have to finish moving first cause otherwise I'm afraid they'll get scratched up in the process. In a couple months I'll definitely have 800s in my collection though.

>>61615744
Just pick up the LSR305 and have better sound than you'll get from any headphone on the market.

>>61615744
>I have to finish moving first cause otherwise I'm afraid they'll get scratched up in the process.
That's why you keep the box, and put them in the box for transportation.

>>61615761
>speakers
Wrong thread.

>>61615761
I don't know what's funnier, the fact that a $300 pair of studio monitors wreck every single headphone in sound quality or that people actually spend over $300 on headphones.

>>61615788
>Wrong thread.
You must be new here.

>>61615795
No, not really.
Speaker recommendations aren't appreciated unless people are specifically asking for speakers.

>>61615791
You have to spend a ton on headphones to begin to match the sound quality of a decent set of speakers.

Why do you think I ditched my HD 800 S? Even they couldn't compare.

>>61615791
>people actually spend over $300 on headphones
I guess they don't want to deal with making speakers sound good by having room treatment and proper placement

>>61615761
I don't like speakers, although maybe I'll try jumping into the ultra high end if I come across $10K sometime in the future. No more mid fi nonsense for me.
>>61615769
I can wait a month or two before buying new toys. It's one less thing to worry about.

>>61615813
Speaker discussion has always been welcome in /hpg/, it's just the speaker tripfags shitposting that put some new people off.

>>61615821
>having room treatment and proper placement
Not necessary, that's like buying a $500 amp to get 'the most' out of your headphones vs onboard audio, but for the most part it's a marginal improvement.

>>61615061
My beyers snapped after a few months

The "german quality!!!" meme is a scam
The "replaceable parts!" meme is a scam, costs 30% of the headphone cost for a single piece of plastic delivered, if you want to repair for "free" you have to pay for shipping which will be another £30 anyway, repairing them out of warranty costs MORE than buying a brand new pair (30 shipping + 75 repair fee)

Their support is nonexistant and all they do is spam you with macros saying "CONTACT YOUR LOCAL SELLER WE DINDU NUFFIN!" no matter what you message them with, never get to talk to a real human.


What's the point in any of it, they snap easily & repairing them costs just as much as sending them in for RMA anyway.

If you buy them from any place that doesn't offer free replacements you're wasting your money

>>61615863
>My beyers snapped after a few months
Surprise, surprise.
>The "german quality!!!" meme is a scam
You only just noticed?
>The "replaceable parts!" meme is a scam, costs 30% of the headphone cost for a single piece of plastic delivered, if you want to repair for "free" you have to pay for shipping which will be another £30 anyway, repairing them out of warranty costs MORE than buying a brand new pair (30 shipping + 75 repair fee)
It is for beyers. HD600 just don't break all that easily, and it's convenient to be able to replace any part if, say, after 15 years, something breaks. No repair fee nonsense, as they're user serviceable.
>Their support is nonexistant and all they do is spam you with macros saying "CONTACT YOUR LOCAL SELLER WE DINDU NUFFIN!" no matter what you message them with, never get to talk to a real human.
Exactly the opposite of Sennheiser, and their reputation for having seriously nice customer support.
>the TL;DR
Go HD600, no beyers remorse.

>>61615915
Can you replace the drivers? I have replaced the pads and cable over the years, but the left speaker needs fixing

>>61615959
Yes, you can replace the drivers. *every* part is replaceable.

>>61615975
neat, I'll have to track that down, as well as replacements for the plastic parts where the speakers join the headband

>>61615959 >>61615994
Before you do, I suggest you go to youtube and check out some disassemble/reassemble videos.
I'd try removing the driver, cleaning it separately and putting it back together before resorting to actually buying a new one.

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>>61615821
>Buy $30 worth of acoustic foam and $5 can of spray adhesive and/or glue sticks
>Do this
>Proper positioning
>Costing anything and taking more than 10 minutes to do

Need advice on new headphones. I fucked up headphones socket in 3 or 4 smartphones in a row, so now I'm looking for something wireless.

>Budget
~100$

>Location
Eastern Yurop

>Source
Smartphone, maybe laptop

>Type of headphone
full size

>Open or closed
rather closed

>Comfort level
I sometimes wear headphones few hours a day, so comfort is important factor

>Sound signature
bassy

>Past headphones
I have Sennheiser HD 438, they are nice and comfortable but they got little bit loose after few years

>>61616149
bump for suggestions

Alright, recommend me something here:

Price: anything under 500$ is ok I guess

Location: literally irrelevant, paid 100$+ shipping charges my whole life

Type: full sized, closed

Comfort: everything hurts anyway, idgaf

Sound: as clear and neutral as possible. zero need for niggerbass, i want to hear my music precisely as it was recorded (digitalfags leave). Good soundstage desired.

Source: PC, maybe occasionally fat amp that I have hooked up to a vinyl deck

On a side note, please don't recommend anything that'll murder me with treble or can't be safely used for a whole day (assuming lower than average volume). I'm also interested in a DAC, as I know it can be required for a good pair of headphones, so do recommend one as well. Also, what's the best audio player? I've been using Winamp, but I do wonder if there's something better. FLAC only btw. I used to have a Sony MDR1A and an MDR 6 whatever (the cheap one that gets in all /g/ lists), they're... alright I guess. Also, do I need a sound card or something if I'm really pushing for the crispest, purest sound possible?

>>61616018
whelp, definitely need a new one now, there was a dust bunny on one of the thin coil wires that I tried to remove with tweezers and the whole wire came out

>>61616609
*OUCH*. Might be recoilabe, but the difficulty level just bumped considerably. Maybe time to call Sennheiser and/or look for sites selling the part.

>>61616469
CB-1 and an Mpow bluetooth reciever

>>61616552
Fostex has some good closed cans for that price.

>>61616552
OPPO PM-3. Ideally you'd want to bump up to $800 for an Aeon though, as the PM-3 is still a bit bassy. Your audio setup should be fine, although something like a fulla 2 or SMSL Idea would make sure of that.

> Install Viper4Android on my pajeetphone
> It sounds better than my Fiio X3ii
> Haven't used it in over a month
So what do I do with this thing now?
There's literally no resale value on shit that niche in my country.

>>61615863
Pic + time stamp.

>>61617181
enjoy your chinese botnet

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I'm trying to fix my Koss PRODJ200 (plug ripped off) and the wire is just SO THIN, it's damn near impossible to solder it in the new plug. Any tips?

Who else got the free headphones from Budweiser?

>>61617446
Don't be lazy and do these FR measurements yourself.

>>61617192
I already posted a pic like 2 threads ago, it's all packed up now to get a refund :)

>>61587638

>>61617427
The cable looks replaceable
Just buy a new cable

Should i get a HD600 or a Beyerdynamic DT 990 if its primarily for gaming?

>>61617526
HD600, since positional cues are largely in the upper mids, an area of the frequency response DT990 is very deficient in, as demonstrated by the image in >>61614235

>>61617526
HD600. It's far more accurate.
DT990 is flawed with an ear-piercing peak in the treble.

>>61617526
hd600 since dt990's treble will be very fatiguing during long gaming sessions
>>61617551
this, we evolved ears that boost upper midrange response for survival in the wild, being able to hear the the direction predators are in

>>61617526
HE400i

>>61617526
do you ever use a mic and talk when gaming?

>>61616629
I can't even see where the wire joins the speaker, it's not like there's a solder tab to easily add in a new wire...

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>>61617500
It's not this exact one in the image (mine is an older version).
I'm left with replacing this unconquerable plug.

>>61617526
Hifiman he-400i or ath-ad1000x

>>61617614
>>61617526
>HE400i
Mess of a midrange full of peaks and dips, also infamous for QC issues.

What's the most neutral, flat, uncoloured open headphone that I'd probably use with an amp for less than 500 or so freedum dollers? Literally studio monitor tier. Pls resbond, currently surviving off a pair of 5$ IEM's

>>61618125
HD600 by far.

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Heard these just a couple of days ago. New electrostatic headphone always interests me and I had high expectation.

Honestly I don't know what to think of it. In terms of general sound and tonal balance, the Sonoma is great. Very balanced from top to bottom, like an uber Etymotic ER4SR with a lot more meat and dynamics obviously. Based on my memories they don't sound like any of the current flagship STAX stuff, they definitely sound more in common with a well-driven Koss ESP950.

That's where the good thing ends though because the system is riddled with strange quirks. If you crank up the volume a bit with my pacier 2hu EDM stuff, the bass will distort like crazy. The problem is worse if you use the line-out and external DAC or DAP. I believe the driver is behaving erratically with low-frequency sound in general. On top of that, the system doesn't like it if you play things loud so you're forced to listen at a low level.

The amplifier unit doesn't get hot either so I wonder what kind of fuckery they use to make things run.

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>>61613763
>Fidelio X2 not listed.

>>61618125
hd600

>>61617526
>DT 990
i refuse to recommend anything that does not have easily replaceable cables or earpads

>>61618220
Why are these not available anywhere except used?

>>61618299
They're being sold by "DIGITALGUY" for $299 on Amazon.

>>61617526
Fidelio X2

>>61617526
>Gaming
Neither

Where can I get a legit pair of MDR-V6s?
Hard mode: Canada

>>61617526
K712/K7XX

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>>61613742
*serious inquiry*
I want to buy new headphones.
Which headphone should I get, HD600 or K712?

Tell me why you would choose one over the other.

>>61619195
It depends on what you want them to sound like. The hd600 has rolled off bass and highs, which make them have very emphasized mids. The k712 from what I've heard, has slightly emphasized bass and exaggerated highs.

>>61619195
I'd get the K712, it's more fun

Can someone explain why some in-ear phones are tiny, and others have a hulking mass on the outside, are they housing larger drivers?

>>61615761
>and have better sound than you'll get from any headphone on the market.
You will have to deal with room acoustics, dsp alone won't fix everything, and speakers don't offer the same amount of detail retrieval as headphones do. You will get a real soundstage and dat bass tho, but that means you will have to live alone.

>>61619195
HD600, midrange/vocals emphasised, very forward in that region, meh bass and calm but very extended highs, they won't rape your ears but you will easily hear them, no soundstage. K712, distant sounding, existing sub bass, 'airy' highs, but not as pronounced as on beyers, soundstage. HD600 for vocals and muh midrange, K712 for instrumental arangements and electronic bass heavy music, as HD600 bass is too weak for those. If you can try them out in your local shop or use amazon's return policy,

>>61618321
wtf? In germany you get them new for 200-240€ on amazon

Yo guys, my super old headphones finally gave up recently, I'd had them for like 5 years straight and I wanna get new ones finally

>budget
Anything below 120 dollars

>location
Having somebody bring them in from Murica, so location's not really important

>source
Mostly laptop, but I'd use it on my smartphone every so often

>Type
Full sized and closed, wired or not wired isn't important to me

>Comfort
Honestly I can probably handle anything

>Sound signature
Warm if possible

>>61617618
yes

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>>61614600
They're not terrible and respond well to EQing.
They sound a lot better than what you'd expect from a $18 IEM.
They're bright and have a V shaped sound signature with an noticable peak between 2-4khz.

>>61618343
what should i get then?

>>61620035
I'd look at something like audio technica ATH-ADG1X

>>61618977
why would that be better?

>>61620044
why is that?

>>61620050
'better' gets extremely subjective beyond ~$100 headphones. Unless the headphones are truly atrocious, after a psycho-acoustic 'burn in' time, you forget that you're listening to X vs Y headphones. Unless you're constantly auditioning different headphones you literally won't notice.

For me, anyway, after meeting a baseline of performance (no audible distortion and standard playback volumes, be able to moderately EQ with no audible distortion), build quality and wear comfort matter a lot more than the wine-tasting superlatives that audiophiles throw at high end headphones.

>>61620076
Because you're getting a good quality integrated microphone, don't fall for the shitty $1 lapel mic meme, the mess of cable you have to manage isn't worth it.

>>61620137
sounds good, i guess ill go with the audio technica then

>>61619984
B-bump?

>>61619984
MDR V6

>>61617427
>>61617648
Just do a removable cable mod.

>>61620394
I have 568 Cs will the FX Audio DAC-X6 chink dac and amp improve its sound?

>>61620496
Not sure why you're quoting me.

Either way, potentially. If your current source has hiss or a high output impedance, sure.

>>61620512
Whoops must have clicked your post while typing.Thanks though.

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What do i do to make my CB-1 headphones actually sound good? They are okay but feel kinda empty, any recommendations? I have a old ass " creative sb audigy 2 zs" Soundcard that makes shit sound decent (i got it for free) and I've been using that (pic related, its the exact soundcard)

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>>61613742
Are Beats headphones any good?

>>61620677
equaliserAPO + Peace GUI
install sinegen and roll through the frequencies and flatten it out
try it out with a few songs you know well and tweak from there

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Anybody had the problem of their Bluetooth headset no longer pairing? My headset seems like it's unable to turn on its bluetooth now. The blue light's supposed to turn off after a while. My devices can't find it.

Any chance this fixes itself later or am I fucked?

How's the soundstage on HD600? If it's shit, is there any other similarly neutral headphone with good soundstage?

What's the best DAC+Amp device for under 200$? As neutral as possible pls

What are the best headphones for 60s music?

Looking for a simple pair I can plug into my phone and PS4. Open or closed better for games?

ATH50 vs HD598?
AD900X?

>>61621633
Narrow. K712 has better soundstage and positioning

>>61621633
It's good, shit is positioned correctly.
It is not colored; if you like everything to sound far away regardless of the recording, you're better of with the AKGs

>>61621664
Grado sr60

>>61621750
Thanks. I doubt I will ever suddenly want to hear things that way, so I'll stick to the snapheisers.

I'm looking to move up to a nicer set of cans (that's what the pros call headphones, right?)

How should I think in terms of impedance? Low impedance seems attractive since I don't have to get any extra stuff, just plug it into my phone or computer, and avoid being that Mac guy with his desk full of DACs and amplifiers hooked up by garden hose. But how much would I be missing out?

Thinking of DT 990s paired with an SMSL M3 amp. Primarily for gaming, what does g think? Helpful answers only pls

>>61621974
You won't be getting anything high end without an amp but cans like the Fidelio X2 are nice and easy to drive.

>>61619195
dunno about the HD600, but i'd avoid the K712 purely because of AKG. It's more of a hassle to find replacement earpads because of they glue their earpads onto the disk thing. So it's easy to take off yeah, but OEM ones aren't even available on Amazon and you can't just use any aftermarket ones. Same thing with the mini XLR cables. I still have the horrid stock one because aftermarket ones aren't widely available. Its design won't let it snap off by itself either so be careful not to snag it.

None of the 7xx series AKG headphones are going to feel like it's worth what it is because of all the plastic parts, not to mention a fucking elastic to hold the headband snug.

Not directly headphone related I guess, but audio related so I figure you guys would know: what sample rate is actually ideal to set in Windows audio mixer thing? I had it at 48000 for a long time on the theory that very little stuff goes above that and you won't hear the difference anyway, but then yesterday I was playing a game and the voices had very noticeable crackles and pops that went away when I raised it to 96000, so is it actually better to just leave it there and let stuff upsample where needed?

>>61622426
48k sampling does not cause crackles and pops. 48k is fine.

>>61622517
Yeah I'm sure it was more an issue with the software rather than 48k being insufficient somehow, but still remains that setting to 96k did fix the issue in this case, so wondering if there's any downside to just leaving it in 96k from now on.

What's /hpg/ listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg59q4puhmg

>>61621713
Ad900x, but spring for the ad1000x if you can. Open is better for gaymen because it widens spatial cues.

>>61622634
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUriumisgBk

>>61621760
Over ear preferably

>>61622634
https://youtu.be/Pgum6OT_VH8

What is this man experiencing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

?

Is it real? Or is he meming?

>>61623217
I would react like that too if I had to listen to jazz

>>61623217
Ultrasone has a pretty unique sound signature. At the lower end models it's very subtle. Their higher end stuff is a fucking shitshow though. Lots of premium materials combined with the absolute worst headphone design.

>>61623217
...what the fuck? Is it THAT bad?

BEST DAC/AMP FOR SUB-200$( with a thoroughly neutral, flat sound)? pls

>>61623624
schiit fulla 2
an o2+odac would be better and would be >$200 if you make it yourself.

>>61622101
Anyone? Need help on this as i'm extremely close to making this purchase

>>61623876
no detachable cable

>>61617526
Why would you want either for gaming?
Besides, what's with the price difference? That's one weird way of working with a budget.

>>61619520
>room acoustics
Actually one of the pros of that model is having less deviation than usual in different environments.

>>61621713
Out of those? AD900X.

>>61624057
Who gives a fuck about that? all my previous headphones never had detachable cables

>>61623624
SMSL Idea

>>61621664
HD600

>>61622101
DT990 are not good for gaming. Positional cues are in the upper mids and the DT990 are deficient at upper midrange reproduction. DT990's treble response is also fatiguing for long gaming sessions. Consider HD579. Consider AD700x/900x/1000x only if you have a large head.

>>61624463
This. Also a midbass hump is quickly tiresome with gaming sounds.

>>61624328
People who care about longevity care about detachable cables, especially with IEMs.

My PortaPros are dying.

What should I replace them with? Thinking of Grado SR80s

>>61624664
Don't get Grados for portable use, the cable is too big and long.

>>61624637
I've never broken a headphone cable and they come with warranty anyway so nothing can go wrong really, i'd probably be replacing them in 2-3 years anyway

>>61620041
Literally any other headphone without piercing highs or no soundstage

>>61624707
really? that's bad.

What other lightweight open back options are there?

>>61624664
KSC75, SportaPro

>>61624723
It should be okay for desktop use but you should really considering the dt770s and 880s before the 990. Both have much more balanced sound signatures. 990s aren't complete trash like people say here but they definitely have a major issue with peaky highs

>>61613763
>990, 702, hd 599, 650, shp9500, k712 all above the 600

That site is pure trash lmao

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>>61625645
>its the sites fault!! It's not that my headphones are shit I swear

>>61619195
I have owned both and the hd600 is better. The k712 has more bass but it's pretty sloppy sounding. That said it's still my second favorite headphone. Get the k712 if you're a bass fiend, otherwise get the 600.

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>>61625711
Al of those headphones are blatantly worse than the 600. You're literally one guy spamming that website, nobody cares about it.

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Added a waifu, you guys happy now?

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>>61625819
>those headphones are worse because I say so! Fuck objective review sites, they're all trash if they don't like my headphones

>>61625851
I can see you're a man who aims to have top taste.

>>61625851
how r the SE215s? I'm considering those for bus commutes or whatever.

IEMs scare me though earwax-wise and general hearing health.

>>61625895
Maybe some day mang
>>61625999
They're great if you listen to music with a slight emphasis on the low end. The bass on the 215s is really something else, have owned this pair for about 5-6 years now and haven't found a reason to buy new IEMs. The cable is replaceable so that will make sure they last you for a long ass time. I used to wear them all the time when i rode on the bus, it isolates basically all sound which is perfect. As for your hearing as long as you're not listening
to music too loudly you should be fine (but that goes for all headhones/iems)

>>61624886
>dt770
>dt880
>balanced sound signature
No. They also have "a major issue with peaky highs."

>>61626131
You're not wrong, but you should be aware you're replying to a troll who intentionally says factually incorrect things just to bait people into correcting him.

>>61625819
>sennshills would using rtings every damn chance they got until they started reviewing other headphones better.

>>61626216
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anonymous shitposting faggot.

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>buy hd800 6 months ago
>happy with my hd650 but felt like a change
>never used my 650 since
>get out my hd650 today
>used to think they sounded great
>can see why people call them mudheisers now
>cant see myself using anything worse than hd800's now

h-how far does the rabbit hole go?

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Does her music sound good on HD600s?

>>61626385
You're basically at the bottom of it with the hd800s, granted you could always buy planar magnetic stuff and electrostatics like stax.

>>61626413
>Velour pads are uncomfortable.
>4db boost in upper treble is ear rape

This is what shillheisers actually believe.

>>61626437
>he doesn't know about the BEYER CLAMP
Sure, you can fix it. But don't act like they aren't extremely uncomfortable the first time you put them on.

>>61626404
Everything sounds good out of the HD600, the most balanced sounding full sized headphones in the world.

>>61626404
It would probably sound better on the he-400i or ath-ad1000x or 2000x, which have flatter mids.

>>61626638
>ath-ad1000x
>ath-ad200x

>No detachable headphone cord

D R O P P E D

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Thinking of getting pic related- Alesis Elevate 6.
What's it like? Worth it for general everyday use? Willing to put a little money into good quality sound.

If anyone needs a cheap closed headphone that sounds great.

Get the Akai Project 50x. It's amazing for 17 bucks (price keeps dropping).

>>61626701
>Caring this much about a detachable cable for desktop/home use

Do you treat all your headphones like a gorilla? It's more important for IEMs.

>>61626764
The JBL lsr305s are much, much better at the same price point.

>>61620041
AKG K7XX

>>61626873
Why K7XX and not K712?

>>61613763
>Oh a earbuds in rtings
>It's wireless
Any recommendation earbuds with no wireless bs and same quality with that?

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Had these about 18 months
Everything about them is excellent except that after prolonged wear the pads compress and you end up rubbing your ears against the hardware

Anyone aware of good aftermarkets or should I just replace the pads?

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Why do these even exist?

They are twice the price of the HD650 and sound worse, is there anyone that likes them?

>>61626805
Thanks.
Is XLR the best quality sound? An XLR splitter to 3.5mm's what I'm thinking.

So is the ATH-AD900X the best value for money in the AD line? It seems like it, at ~130 usd on Amazon right now. I'm looking for an open-back around that range (sub 200) if you have other suggestions

>>61627002
It really doesn't make a difference, if anything I'd invest in a USB interface from either behringer or Scarlett and use the rca or xlr outputs on that, this way you have a volume control on the front for the speakers. A 3.5mm splitter works fine too though.

>>61627007
Phillips shp9500s is probably the best $50 open back headphone right now.

>>61627122
so if the shp9500s is the best value sub $200, where would you put the next bracket and what would you recommend there?

>>61627103
Cool, thanks.
Probably a stupid question- in the setup I mentioned will it still be stereo sound? Or mono going through both cables?

>>61626949
Depends what you want.
I got some velor pads and they change the sound of them a lot, say goodbye to your bass. I tried bran waves and sound professionals ath m50 pads and I liked the audio professional ones the best, closest match to stock.

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>>61626638
>he-400i
>which have flatter mids

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>>61627360
>no bass, no upper mids, Beyer-tier treble rape

>>61627160
A 3.5mm to xlr converter is going to have 2 xlr ends, which will go into both speakers so it will be stereo.

With rca to xlr you'll still have stereo through 2 cables.
>>61627158
Hifiman he-350 at $100
Status audio ob-1 at $80
Ath-ad900x at $130

If you're willing to spend $50 extra on the $200 budget, audio Technica ad-1000x or hifiman he-400i

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>>61627484
>>61627360
>Samefagging your cherry picked graph with an anime shitposting

The absolute state of Sennheiser shills.

>>61627502
This graph shows no upper mids and Beyer-tier treble rape.

>>61627521
It's also not the same fucking model.

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>>61627502
>stupid tripfag still using non-compensated eardrum measurement to prove his point, and again failing miserably

at very low volume, only the right channel makes sound, why

>>61627706
You have advanced hearing loss in one ear

>>61627706
Lots of cheaper headphones have unbalanced channels

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>>61627502
>[PLEBSPOTTERS]
Since when is this a thing again? Wat is that you? Horn Loaded?

So the cable leading to the right cup of my headphones is fucked. That being said had my HD202's for roughly 5 years and have decided to finally get new headphones.

>Budget
£125/$160 but can be a bit flexible.
>Location
UK
>Source: My smartphone and my PS4 for the most part.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed preferred.
>Comfort level
Reasonably comfy. As long as it's not uncomfortable I can probably manage.
>Sound signature
Bassy would be nice, but can deal with neutral.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202. They lasted me several years so I can't complain, cable was a bit long but finally need to replace them.

>>61626938
Probably localization. K7XX are cheaper to get in the US than K712.
>>61627975
HM5
CB-1

recommend me some headphones

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>>61628551
Stax SR-L700

>>61620137
>Because you're getting a good quality integrated microphone, don't fall for the shitty $1 lapel mic meme, the mess of cable you have to manage isn't worth it.
I use Vmoda boompro + fidelio X2 for gaymen. Just clips into the 3.5mm socket on the headphone no cable management required.
Works with most headphones with a 3.5mm female jack fits like a glove on my MSR7 as well.
Heard one anon complaint that the mic mute slider breaks after heavy use though. Its been a year of use, mine hasn't broken so far I am gentle with it.

>>61618220
love em, they are a little heavy though.

>>61628326
Thanks. Ordered the Cb-1's to arrive tomorrow.

>>61613780
HD580

>>61628551
Phillips shp-9500s
Status audio cb-1
No idea what your budget is though.

>>61622634
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QM1PXyUJ8k

>>61625851
Much improved, indeed. That's patrician taste right there.

looking for something light, like earbuds. the most important part is that it stays in my ear. noise isolating is a plus. i considered v moda, but they are a bit too expensive. my budget is under $100. and i am in the U.S.

>>61629258
forgot to mention, these will be used in the outdors, most likelly hooked up to a android phone, but a sansa clip is also a possibility

>>61629285
Sound signature

>>61629285
Kz zs5. Excellent IEMs

>>61629425
none in specific, but balanced would be preferable

>>61629639
thanks man, these look great. if i am not wrong, they are both wired and wireless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUb_S4e-Rd4

>>61629780
You can get a Bluetooth receiver cable for them. Either way if you're using a regular cable, spring for an upgraded braided one to reduce microphonics. The downfall of these is that the cable is kind of shitty.

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Maybe only Headphone-related by proxy but could somebody redpill me on LDAC? I looked at the box of my wireless Sony headphones (mdr 100abn) and noticed the logo. Supposedly it gives better sound quality over regular Bluetooth due to Codec fuckery, but has anyone tried it and could say if it's substanstially better?

>>61629780
They become wireless with a seperate KZ Bluetooth cable for $10

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Gonna bring my headphones to a college dorm. What should I keep in mind? Pic related

>>61629730
If you don't really mind unbalanced, then a list would be: tenmak pros, kz zs5 and zs3, zero audio tenore, 1more triple driver, rha 750, senfer ues, senfer 4in1, and rock zircons. Most iems are v shaped, and the only cheap neutral iems I can think of are etymotics

>>61629855
LDAC.
The L stand for Losers'

>>61629855
I doubt you can hear the difference between wired, LDAC, APT-X or maybe even SBC. There's a dumb anon on here who claims he can but every time you ask him to prove it he just deflects cause he knows he can't.

>>61622634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbeuXW8Nko

>>61629896
Buy a small, locking chest at a hardware store and a bike lock. Hook the bike lock up to your bed frame and the chest. Keep the headphones and any valuables (drugs, sensitive information, that sort of thing) in the chest.

>>61618708

Is there anything wrong with amazon?

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>>61629906
>>61629982

So buying a smartphone based on if it has LDAC support or not is pretty fucking stupid then, huh

>>61630146
Definitely. LDAC is software.

>>61613742
>For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg
I don't see any such infographic. Could someone post it, please?

>>61630206
It's mostly kz earbuds and stuff made in China.

The Phillips 9500s are currently $50 on newegg if you want the best headphone at that price range

>>61619520
>detail retrieval
Doesn't matter when you're listening to poorly mastered weebshit anyway

>>61630245
Are the KZs a worthwhile upgrade from my current IEM (re-400s)? I'm sure the build quality is leagues ahead, but what about sound-wise?

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what the fuck was I thinking

I feel really silly falling for snake oil bullshit with the DAC and amp. This was really unnecessary for what I had. I don't hear a difference between the stack and the E10K.

also spending $500 for the SRH1540 was also silly but at least I know what bass sounds like now. Very nice build, and I imagine they could sell it for a much more competitive $400 if they didn't insist on sending it with a useless hardcase (can't close it with cables attached to headphones) and two identical cables AND replacement earpads.

i'm done with this snake oil shit. I'll just get the HD6XX and Shure SE215 (because I got the cable for that already and they don't fit on the SRH1540) and move on from this shit.


i feel extremely silly spending this much money just to learn how cruel the diminishing returns really was

>>61630949
Don't feel too bad cause of the dac and amp. You might need it once you get the 6XX depending on how you listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJJy6VJvSCk
Nippon audiophiles fugg yeah.

>>61630870
That's debatable, the re-400s are no slouch, if anything give the kz zs5's a shot.

>>61630949
>gets chink schiit-stack knockoff
>sounds the same as chink e10k
>chinked 3x

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>>61630949
screenshotted because people don't listen to me when I've said similar, maybe if I collect enough of these people will listen

>>61630949
>I'm sick of wasting money on audio gear
>but I'm gonna spend more money on 2 extra pairs of headphones for no reason in particular

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>>61630206
Here's a list.

If you need closed headphones for under 20 bucks.
Try the Akai Project 50x, currently a steal for the price.

Recommend getting the Lyxpro Has 30 earpads with it as well.

>>61631324
can't imagine it'd be any better if I got the Schiit stack itself. Made-in-America is not a positive in terms of value, among other things with Schiit.

>>61631434
Sure, tell that to yourself as you keep being chinked, if it helps you sleep at night.

>>61631375
>no reason in particular
oh hell no, there is a reason. I want to just "complete" the set and be satisfied with it, even if they're just for display. It might not be rational, but fuck, there is a reason.

An open headphone (the K702 sucks though, buildwise, so that's not collection-worthy), a closed headphone, and an IEM.

It's not like I hate music/audio now after this.

>>61631434
The schiit shills here are pretty rabid, they like the Reddit humor and unprofessionalism schiit uses on their website. The truth of the matter is that the schiit gear more often than not has no measurements and thus cannot be stated to be provably transparent, unlike the SMSL Idea or other "chink" dac/amps.

>>61631482
>has no measurements
Do you seriously trust manufacturer measurements?

>>61631497
Nope, otherwise I'd be fine with schiit. Manufacturer measurements are all schiit has usually.

>>61630120
I suppose, nothing in particular. I hadn't thought to check. Though $109 seems a bit high, from what I've heard.

>>61631509
>Manufacturer measurements are all schiit has usually.
Schiit does not publish measurements, nor does it provide measurements in the device box.
All you get is specs, which are conservative. It's up to third parties to do measurements, if they feel so inclined.
Of course, that doesn't mean they don't measure anything. By not publishing them and being conservative with specs, they simply save themselves a lot of trouble.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-467#post_11763661

>>61629855

LDAC codec is black magic - ive looked into it

we desperately need a 24bit lossless wireless standard

But its totally a propriety sony format. You need a sony DAP to make it work with your headphones - and you cant even kludge something together with a laptop like i did with APT-X with my KZ wireless adapter and ZS5

In short - LDAC: best and worst of sony: the product... still better than applel and muh ancient bluetooth A2DP

>>61631904
>24bit lossless wireless standard

Why do you need 24 bits?

>>61631583
Even their specs are sometimes wrong. They overstated the specs on the original fulla by a lot. Pretty much fraudulent claims right there. Schiit is not a trustworthy company, despite what hordes of mouthbreathing redditors may suggest.

>>61632266
That's interesting. Do you have a source?

>>61632293
I know, >reddit but still.

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/6p3zfb/schiit_fulla_measurements/

>>61632315
That's interesting but it's highly likely RAA got a defective unit, or just suffered from USB power negotiation issues. The results are too far off.

>>61632369
Even then, it's indicative of schiit's poor quality control which seems to plague the fulla lineup, as well as some of their earlier high end models.

>>61632266
how biased is this guy's blog? He hates Schiit obviously but I don't think it's fair to listen to one side.
http://nwavguy.blogspot.ca/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html

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>>61632152

- I have been recording and using 24bit for 13 years now - its a professional standard
- I have a 2Tb 24bit hires library
- Sony has a 24 bit wireless standard called LDAC but its propriety and only exists on a few products

also related: 640k should be enough for anybody and xiph.org links not allowed

>Budget
290
>Location
usa
>Source
Computer though if it needs an amp ill save up for that too
>Type of headphone
Full sized Over Ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Good
>Sound signature
Honestly dont know on that one what I want
>Past headphones
SHP9500

>>61632494
Hifiman he-400i
Ath-ad1000x

>>61632528
Ive found the Shp9500s to be a bit too bright and fatiguing because of this at times.

I've heard the same about those two headphones as well.

>>61632427
Ignore the bias and evaluate his claims based on their own merits. Don't take his word as gospel, obviously, but he makes some valid points.

>>61632427
Schiit posted their pov on that event, too.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/765#post_10463052

>>61632668 new thread

>>61632494
HD600, obviously.

>>61616092
just so you know, acoustic foam costs a lot. also, foam doesn't do shit for controlling bass. mineral wool panels is the bang-for-buck sound absorption.

>>61632528
>Hifiman he-400i
Stop recommending this trash already.
Mess of large peaks and dips in the midrange, besides infamously bad QC and legendary bad Hifiman's support.

>>61632494
hd600

>>61632714
>Costs a lot
>24 12x12" panels is $20
>Implying I don't use bass traps to control low frequencies.
>Just so you know
>Implying this isn't my setup

Fucking kek

>>61632743
No I won't stop. Nothing you can do about it shillheiser faggot.