AMD's Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 CPUs reviewed htt

as if i3 chips could get any more useless

>techreport
Is that a pajeet website?

>>61588323
Looking good for Ryzen 3 especially if you can get a decent OC going.

>g4560 tier in games
well shit

>>61588354
It's my favorite tech site. Their reviews are high quality.

>>61588323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZifJ3DvumA
LinusCockTips review just dropped too
as long as it's as cheap or cheaper than i3, these ryzen3s should be decent competitors.

>>61588323
Well, sometimes 4 cores pay off. Sometimes they don't. Competitively priced, although I'd like to see R3 for the price of a Celeron.

Well i guess its good i waited for them to drop instead of going for an i3 in a toaster.

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>>61588323

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-cpu,5149-5.html

INTEL CORE i3 BTFO
INTEL CORE i5 BTFO

>>61588323
tl;dr Pentiums and i3's are pointless.

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>>61588463

INTEL PENTIUM Goy4560 BTFO

you cant even overclock any intel core i3 dual core and pentium dual core chips

also

>2017
>2 core

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>>61588393
We looking at the same results? It crushes the G4560 and does even better when OCed.

https://youtu.be/IoR0RDETGZI?t=6m47s

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>our fresh 2017 quadcore is slower than Intel's vintage 2011 chip
You can't make this shit up.

>>61588354

look at Tom's Intelshillware website instead

Intel Core i3 getting blown the fuck out there aswell
>>61588463

>>61588393
there's been huge discrepancies in the reviews I've read. tomshardware for example has it shitting all over the i3 chips

they're also showing the R3 1300X handily beating the R5 1500X so it could all be bogus AFAIK.

>>61588479

why didn't he overclock the Pentium G4560? fucking amd fanbouy

>>61588479
>AMD unboxed

Hahahaha loses to a fucking Skylake i3 the 6100 not even the higher clocked 7100 it's really competing with.

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>>61588485
Why do you even bother? http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3001-amd-r3-1300x-review-vs-7350k-intel-response/page-4

Intel still makes dual core CPUs?

What the fuck.

>>61588521

something something Intel artificially locks their processors so they can't be overclocked unless you pay a hefty price premium for an unlocked processor and also an overclockable motherboard

>>61588479
on linustechtips, pclab, benchmark, computerbase it was similar to g4560 or a bit faster
BUT it can overclock so that makes it a bit better and in almost anything that isn't a game it's faster

>>61588444
$109 and $129 on jewegg

>>61588521
I overclucked u're mum bitch

>>61588542
That out perform four physical Zen cores.
To date only the 1600 is worth a shit. This is hilarious.

>>61588532

Brian...

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>>61588536
>quick lets find the one game where it wins

>>61588511
There's actually a reason R3s can beat R5 quad cores and that's architecture optimization. HT and SMT do the same thing but very differently, and for a long time HT was the more popular pick, so games are optimized for it, optimized so much that they handle much better on an R3 (basically an R5 quad without SMT) than they do on the R5. A good way to test this is to compare the two again, this time with SMT on the R5 disabled.

>>61588554
When you force Pajeet to compare core to core this is what you get.
2011 performance for $100 less.

>>61588554

An X299 RAID key (worth $300 has been bribed to your home adress).

Thanks again for being a part of The Mother of All Programs and MCP.

>>61588554
1700 is good too
1600 and 1700 are the best Ryzens when you overclock them

>>61588542
Only in a sick, degenerate, Jewified society is something this morally abhorrent is possible.

>>61588561
am i blind or is there no i7-2600k at stock?

Incucks btfo the fuck out.

>>61588665
>obvious test variance: average fps

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>>61588665
>>61588671
>>61588677
>>61588684

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>>61588511
i bet there will be a bios update to fix the r3s because basically every site shows something else

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too upset; can't look: should just buy a used 6100 and h110 board on ebay

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>>61588692
for example this

Pajeet3 confirmed pointless?

>>61588713
>same performance as i5-7500
>pointless
No.

>>61588707
Yeah there's a lot of variation going on here. Something's fucky for sure.

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>>61588713
yup, just get a 1500x/1600, it's pointless to get a r3 right now with these prices

>>61588720
>same performance as i5-7500
Ah, I see you've applied the usual 1.3x AMD multiplier.

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>>61588722
>>61588707
HMM I WONDER IF THEY'RE JUST USING TOTALLY DIFFERENT SHIT?
LIKE A 800MHZ DDR4 DIFFERENCE

So they're good for the price? i3 permanently killed and i5 bleeding seriously?

>>61588753
1 Intel cores == 2 AMD cores

>>61588745
Honestly it's a budget CPU so I wouldn't test with anything more than cheap-o 2666 or 3000.

>>61588759
And then you woke up.

>>61588745
this image implies that ryzens are slower at faster ram speeds because the anandtech results are better than the other with 3200mhz rams

>>61588759
Why do you even come here to shit up threads with this garbage?

>>61588766
the faster ram used in the OP's link only helps the ryzen chips and it's still losing to a i3 6100

>>61588759
..in power consumption

>>61588745
Neither is a fair benchmark.
The proper way is to use 3200+ on Ryzen and 2133 on Intel. That way AMD looks better which is only fair because Intel is evil.

>>61588778
7700k beating 1700 with half the cores
i3 6100 beating ryzen 3 with half the cores
1 intel core == 2 zen cores

>>61588800
And then you woke up.

>>61588800
>he doesn't recode anime while streaming and compiling linux kernel while also gaming at the same time
Incucks everyone

>>61588786
No.
Anand tech: "For our test we have scripted a version of the in-game benchmark. The in-game benchmark consists of five scenarios: four short panning shots with varying lighting and weather effects, and a fifth action sequence that lasts around 90 seconds. We use only the final part of the benchmark, which combines a flight scene in a jet followed by an inner city drive-by through several intersections followed by ramming a tanker that explodes, causing other cars to explode as well."
techport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqh3KKHXZcE

They're using the game in totally different ways

>>61588810
I think he's sufficiently woke already, unlike AMDfriends.

>>61588857
t. intel engineer

>>61588800
Props to Intel for making a god tier gaming CPU.

Mad props to AMD for making a top tier gaming CPU and god tier all purpose CPU.

>>61588867
1700 is a good gaming cpu, sometimes it's really good, but it's not a top tier gaming cpu
for everything else, it's fucking great for the price

>>61588910
Nothing matters besides gaming, everything else is 0.5% of the market
Everyone who buys a CPU looks for gaming performance, and AMD is over 30% slower than equivalent Intel

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Delidded 7700k with 280mm AIO and DDR4 4266 cl19 is the best video game platform that yields the highest FPS in the most situations.
Anything else is objectively inferior.
Including Threadripper and Skylake-X

It looks quite good.

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>>61588800
>what is SMT

>>61588919
>over 30% slower
It's at most 10-15%. Stop jerking your fanboy dick off.

Another Major Disappointment, that's what you get for being a poojet rajesh school dropout haha fucking AMD cucks take that

>>61588919
and you're right on that one, maybe not 30% slower but you're right
for these people there's ryzen 5 1600 which is really good in games and good in everything else, or an 7700k but then you would need another $100 that you could spend on a better gpu, and don't forget that the 7700k comes without a cooler, so that's another $50

>>61588924
Yeah that's grate and all mr.delid dis, but this is a low end CPU thread, and you're comparing it to HEDT CPUs.

>>61588969
>and don't forget that the 7700k comes without a cooler, so that's another $50
Do you people always trash everything whenever you upgrade?
I've been using the same cooler for 5 years.

>>61588919
>Nothing matters besides gaming
Back to >>>/v/, faggot.
>>61589033
How many times did you replace the fan on it?

>>61588463
Top jej
Jewtel btfo

>>61589046
0

>>61588919
>30% slower
did you fall into coma last 6 month?

>>61589033
i have a stock intel cooler for my i5-2500, i don't think that will be enough to cool a 7700k

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>>61588919
>Nothing matters besides gaming

>>61588597
who in the world would run a 2600k at stock?

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>People are unironically opting for a dual-core over a quad-core

>>61589274
someone with a non-k 2600 would probably not overclock it

>>61588565
>HT and SMT do the same thing but very differently
Wat. HT is just intel's trademarked name for their specific version of SMT.

>>61589298
?people are unironically opting for a dual core that gets higher fps than a quad core

the only thing anyone cares about is vidya perf

a 3 core part with 6 threads, smt enabled and high frequency would probably be the best thing for games in the foreseeable 2 year future

Weird how the 1200 and 1300X sometimes beat out the SMT enabled counterparts. I'm sure that single CCX parts don't get through quality control.

>>61589427
What about my utterly out-of-control porn habits?

>>61588546
>on linustechtips, pclab, benchmark, computerbase it was similar to g4560
Linus video doesn't include any pentiumG in their result you dumb fuck.

>>61588924
>having to circumcise your cpu to make it work properly
fucking hilarious

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>>61589427
Now try to run something in the background with 2 cores and test the frame times. These game benchmarks do not show real life performance.

Not terribly impressed desu. Was expecting more.
The value proposition over something like a G4560 is okay for workstation tasks (which you shouldn't be doing on R3), but in games it's not really worth the extra money. If you OC that might be reasonable, but then you need B350, and GN reported trouble with the stock cooler so ymmv.

It further drives the i3 into irrelevance, but the Pentium already did that, and R3 doesn't do much to unseat it, at least in gaming.

>>61589679
Why shouldn't I be doing workstation tasks on a Ryzen 3?

>>61589731
Because Ryzen 5/7 are better suited to the task?

>>61589623
I owned an i3 6100 and it handled 60 fps no problem with my usual background tasks which are spotify, chrome, discord, afterburner, and keychatterfix.
Replaced it with a 7700k because it was incapable of 144hz.

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>>61588867
lmoa a perfectly reasonable post devoid of bias. On fucking /g/

>>61589731
Because it does terribly in them, and you'd be better off with an R5. Even the 1400 would be a substantially better buy.
In truth, the advantage of the R3 even over low-end intel chips isn't entirely clear cut even in professional workloads. It's kinda meh. Sometimes keeping pace with an i5, sometimes falling behind the Pentium.
The chip is kinda odd. Not a bad chip, but an inconsistent performer. I'd take it over a Pentium if it were only a bit more expensive, but $30 is pushing it when the prices are so low.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Intel is still king despite half the fucking cores. Jesus how is AMD this incompetent? This alongside their 1070 housefire is the nail in the coffin. I don't see them living to 2020.

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>G4560 still relevant
>i3 and i5 even more ded
>the main advantage of the R3 is the platform

OC R3 1200 to 3.8GHz on stock cooler, upgrade to Zen 2 in 2019 / Zen 3 in 2021. Boom

>>61589980
Or go g4560 and get better performance and upgrade to the future six core on the same platform that will inevitably be faster than Poozen.

>>61589929
>He still reccomends the R3 at the end
Why do you even bother, again? This kind of retarded shilling just doesn't work anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZifJ3DvumA

>>61590021
>upgrade to the future six core
We don't yet know for sure if Coffee Lake will be able to slot into existing 1151 motherboards.

Does the larger L3 cache and the better cooler justify the higher pricetag of the R5 1500X over just getting a R5 1400 and bringing it to the same clockspeed?

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>>61590021
G4560 loses to the R3 series, and there's no guarantee Kaby Lake will be compatible with Coffee Lake.

>Poozen
lol.

>>61590021
>future six core on the same platform that will inevitably be faster
Really? Because the leaked slides show it's basically a 1600X that costs almost twice as much.

>>61589898
What about just something like a dual-monitor setup with, say, DotA 2 open in one and a browser in the other?
Would you need a R5 over an R3 for this situation?

>>61590046
It still delivers the performance needed for gaymes is almost half the price of fhe lowest end r3.
>>61590038
Intel will do it, I guarantee it. They know they have to win the Core War.
>>61590061
>believing leaks
>>61590026
The fact remains that if you're doing pure gayming Intel is still who you should ne going for.
>inb4 hurr fuk off vee
A good portion of this userbase comes here to build gaymen rigs, don't even deny it.

>>61590115
>They know they have to win the Core War.
How can they win when they've lost before the battle has even started?

>>61590021
>Current B350 mobo supporting Zen 2/3?
Yes.
>Current B250 mobo supporting Coffee Lake?
Maybe. Even then, you're stuck. No way it will support Cannon Lake in 2019

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>>61589836
But Anon-kun, the Ryzen R3 is also capable of running 60 fps while being less prone to stuttering, because of the higher core count.

>>61590043
No

>>61588323
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA.

GET FUCKED INTEL.

>>61590046
>G4560 loses to the R3 series
That's contingent on workload.
In some games, the G4560 bests the 1300X and 1200, in other R3 lead. And the G4560 is $30 cheaper.
And unlike the R5, this is essentially the end of the road performance-wise. This isn't a 1600 with numerous threads waiting to be tapped by devs down the line as multi-core becomes a bigger deal. We've already optimized games for 4-cores. For the most part, what you see with the R3 is what you get.

In professional apps, it's good value (usually). And it has longer upgrade path than Kaby Lake. But for games it's a bad buy imo.

>>61590173
Oh here we go again with the stuttering meme. Like fucking clockwork.
>>61590185
See >>61589929

>>61590228
>literally the only difference between a dual-core overpriced piece of shit produced by a dying company and a cheaper quad-core processor produced by the future of computer processors is like 10 fucking frames in gaymen

Try harder Intel shill.

>>61590292
>Intel
>dying company
You misspelled "AMD" lad. Not to mention that insults aren't arguments. If the r3 is slower despite double the cores at the same price (not even factoring the g4560) than there is something seriously wrong.

>>61590333
something is very wrong with your brain and deduction

>>61590374
Still not an argument. Raja must not pay you enough, Pajeet.

>>61588323
they're right actually. nobody who is in the market for a budget cpu like this will buy it over an i3 or pentium due to the fact it has no igpu. we're talking MS word machines here

>>61590333
It just released. Give it time to be optimized. Soon you'll find the last few squirrely intel kiddies desperately buying all of the i3-i7 processors from the bargain bins of every Walmart in America to keep their God on life support while everyone else has switched over to the winning team to enjoy our 12c/24t Zen 2 processors.

It's gonna feel good, man.

>>61590437
People buy budget CPUs for gaming all the fucking time, people are retarded enough even to buy a lowend nvidia like a 1030 because they don't know a GPU is on the CPU

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>>61590446
>J-just wait
The cycle continues.

>>61588323
Are they 2C + 2C or 4C?

>>61590472
>literally a 2 fps difference from the 1700

>b-but Intel's still good for gaemin right? RIGHT?

>>61590453
Relying on the stupidity of the consumer is probably not a winning strategy.
In business to business orders and retail crapboxes you can find at BestBuy (where the higher pricetag means everything), R3 sans GPU will suffer.

>>61590518
>Relying on the stupidity of the consumer is probably not a winning strategy.
It's working for Apple.

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Even AMD admits that an i3 is better for gaming.

>Lets compare a locked CPU with an unlocked CPU at stock clocks and draw conclusions!
>Lets compare two unlocked CPUs, but don't factor in the additional cost of cooling and expensive mobos on one of the platforms when assessing the value proposition!

In all honestly tho, r3 is a pretty worthless cpu because ~100 dollars price range is iGPU territory.

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>>61590561
>Intel lopsided triangle
>Intel can't triforce confirmed

>>61590561
>2% for gaming

The Intel shills are truly in denial

>>61590584
it's not AMD's fault that Intel has everyone pay for the priviledge of overclocking virtually identical chips

>>61590561
By two percent.

>WOW! A two percent increase to vidya at the cost of shitty everything else! What a swell deal! Thanks Intel!

Intel is dead. Stop kicking your feet, move on and get a Ryzen.

>>61590472
>Literally 2 (two) FPS faster, a difference that is completely unrecognizable to the human eye
>SO MUCH BETTER THAN RYZEN AMDFAGS KYS
Are you fucking serious right now?

>>61588323
>no integrated gpu
then what is the point of this for plebs?

>>61590584
Why in the fuck would ANYONE want integrated graphics?

>>61590665
No additional GPU needed if you don't do intensive 3D tasks for work or gaming. Perfect for laptops, office computers and casual use for browsing etc.

>>61590665
If you're too poor to afford ryzen 1600, you must be too poor for a proper gpu

>integrated graphics

IT'S COMING Q1 NEXT YEAR YOU FUCKS. YES IT WILL BE MUCH BETTER IF IT'S HERE NOW

Bristol Ridge is also launching today, btw

>>61590730
>IT'S COMING Q1 NEXT YEAR YOU FUCKS.

You're acting like Intelcucks don't know that.

They're desperately clinging onto even the stupidest reason to justify unironically using intel processors in the current year.

>>61590775
G4560 is still the CPU of choice.

For officeladies.

>>61590706
I managed to get a GTX 1060 for $200.
$130 seems like a reasonable price for something that has a good upgrade path.
And overclocking is nice too.

>>61590115
>It still delivers the performance needed for gaymes is almost half the price of fhe lowest end r3.
If you can find it.
Shit literally gone in my country or the price got jacked up to $90 for the last two weeks.
I don't know what happen, either they out of stock or someone scalping it.

Because of this shit, i bought a G4400 for my niece.

>>61590802
130 seems like a 100% retarded price considering 4/8 ryzen is 160

>>61590472
who was the one responsible for this graph? I forgot

>>61590802
No reason to get the 1300X over the 1200 if you want to overclock

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>>61590115
>is almost half the price of fhe lowest end r3.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117743
>$79
Wait what the fuck is happening here?
Wasn't this thing price at $60 couple months ago?

>>61590874
Fair enough.

>>61590902
Intel pulled the kill switch on it. These things were unavailable, if at all, for a decent price for a few weeks now.

>>61590902
Combination of market demand and Intel "reducing supply" (still just a rumor)

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>>61590933
>Pulling the plug on their best Pentium line up
>When R3 is coming out.
WHAT THE FUCK IS INTEL DOING?

>>61590665
You wouldn't. Unless the alternative was no graphics at all.
Which is why 95% of computer users rely on iGPUs every single day. Which is sufficient for everything but playing modern games or some workstation tasks.
AMD is relying on Bristol Ridge to fill the gap against the Celeron and Pentium. But it's still buying a new Bulldozer chip in 2017, which feelsbadman.
The lack of iGPU hurts the relatively affordable R3 line in a way that's easier to overlook in the R5 line.

>>61590975
they wanted people to buy i3s

>>61590975
The G4560 killed their own i3 lineup.

>>61590975
i3 line can't compete with pantium now that pantium has 4 threads

>>61591007
It really did. So imagine this response from intel, they could do it and barely lose any money. It would be trivial
i7 from 4/8 to 6/12
i5 from 4/4 to 6/6 and 4/8
i3 from 2/4 to 4/4
Pentiums to 2/4
Celerons 2/2
ALL UNLOCKED.
If AMD then responded some how, maybe with the new GloFo process the CPU market would be in the best shape I have ever seen.

>>61590975
Because they didn't. http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-pentium-g4560-is-not-being-discontinued/ it's just that shittons of people are buying it.
>>61590997
>>61591007
>>61591024
>t. paid pajeets
Stop misleading people.

>>61590997
>>61591007
>R3 is right on the corner
>killed the i3 with pentium
>then killed the pentium to revive i3
>now i3 is literally kill by R3.

Why intel marketing department act like Trump white house administration?

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How big of an upgrade would these be over an fx6300?

>>61591039
This is unironically Coffee Lake. Except the all unlocked part

>>61590997
The information that Intel is cutting supply of their G4560 has never been sourced.
Not to say it's impossible. But significant demand could easily account for it alone. And there has definitely been demand.

>>61591070
If at all possible do whatever it takes to save up for a 1600 on sale. You don't want to buy a ryzen 3 unless you absolutely have to.
>>61591076
That's one of the biggest things though. Having them all unlocked BTFOs AMD until they can put out zen on a superior process.

>>61591070
You're going to need a new heater for those cold, lonely nights. These shit run cool

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>>61591039
>ALL UNLOCKED.
>intel

>>61591070
It would be a huge upgrade for sure.

I just plan on getting a 1200 and then upgrading to a higher core count Zen2 or whatever in a couple years when I have more money.

>>61591070
Night and day

Piledriver is terrible compared to anything else other than some Athlons

They're great for streaming though. 0 performance loss in most games.

t. FX-6350 user

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>>61591039
Why do you fantasize about possible solutions that never happened instead of just moving your ass and getting a Ryzen and has the solution already?

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>>61591114
This anon gets it

>>61591133
too behind delid [email protected] and ddr4 4266 cl19 for 144hz

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>a modern 4-core in the 100$ range

Jesus Christ about fucking time.

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AHHHH, I don't know what to do.

The i7-7700k + motherboard is a good deal at $350.

Or I could get the i7-6850k and try to sell it at the risk of getting expelled from the program to buy a Ryzen 1700 + motherboard.

>>61591039
>ALL UNLOCKED Intel CPU
>Everybody in this world owned an unlocked nuclear reactor in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91rPIq2mN4

>>61591149
Not a good idea to buy jewtel, not yet. AMD hasn't made them suffer enough, and only though their suffering can we see better pricing.

>>61591098
Maintaining their ridiculous margins is more important to Intel than BTFOing AMD, unfortunately. K chips and Z boards are too delicious a margin to let go

>>61591149
I'd get the 6850K if I can get a cheap board

gimme one reason to upgrade my 4690k

so autismo shills, what should I buy?

>An $80 Pentium G4560 + a $110 MSI B250M Mortar Arctic
>A $109 Ryzen 3 1200 + a $100 AsRock AB350 Pro 4 (ATX)

For gaming and video rendering using vegas. (Chose those MoBos for a B&W theme)

R3 + 3200Mhz RAM will be dope

>>61591238
I'd get the R3 1200 and overclock it to 1300X speeds or so.

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>>61591238
wtf are you smoking

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>>61588323
>Reading this article with an overclocked i3 6100
>All their benchmarks have some weird ass golden silicon 6100 fucking with everything

>>61591315
linus's man meat

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>>61588759
>>61588800
>>61588919
>>61589427
>>61590333

>Only gaming matters
>i-it's 30% I swear
>and 30% means double the performance per core
>I'm doing it for free™

https://www.techspot.com/review/1450-core-i7-vs-ryzen-5-hexa-core/page9.html

>>61591371
Why would you buy a shitty 7800x? If you play at 60 fps buy literally anything it doesnt matter, if 144hz delid a 7700k/7740x and get 4266cl19 ram.

>>61591238
Buy
>An $100 FX 8300 + a $45 ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0

Much better than that new stuff.

>>61591398
Only valid reason is X299 will last longer than Z270

Watching Intel suffer is better than porn to me at this point.

Fuck Intel. Nobody is going to miss you anti-consumer anti-competitive anti-technology pieces of garbage or your overpriced piece of garbage processors.

>>61591430
Yeah but that's why you buy a 7740x. Delid it and get a 5.3ghz 7700k today and in 5 years pick up a good chip from the last gen intel launches on x299.
7740x/ddr4 4333(corsair just listed some on newegg) is actually the best gaming ram/cpu combo and you're paying like an extra $100 on the mobo to have the ability to upgrade to just about anything you want.
Ryzen 3 looks like a very very good general purpose PC chip, and of course the price will drop a bit like the other ryzens. Probably fine for any 60hz pc. Really none of this shit matters until you start looking for 120/144/165hz. 60hz is just trivial for CPUs. I've used that 2/4 pentium with my 1080ti on my 4k monitor and couldn't tell the difference between it and my 7700 cus 60hz

>>61588521
>why didn't he overclock a CPU that can't be overclocked?

Are you retarded?

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>He can't use his CPU's logo as a warm fuzzy blanket for it's mascot

>>61591505
That'a lot of extras. Mobo, ram, delid. I agree on spending more upfront, however. I doubt you'll still be satisfied with 7740X in 3 years, let alone 5. Might have CFL-X by then

>>61591422
why an AM3+? I never heard of someone suggest an FX cpu in a while. What advantages are there other than the price because the difference between that and the ryzen 3 is less than $10

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>>61588479
>overclocking the Ryzen cpu's but not the i3's or the Pentiums

Lol this guy isn't even trying to hide being an AMD shill anymore.

Think it might be time to unsubscribe

>>61591735
Are you retarded?

>>61588536
>>61588561
Gamernexus lost their hand since Ryzen was out.
When Ryzen 7 was out they put old as fuck games running at sub VGA resolutions just to show how the 18% higher clocked intels could get more fps.

Now are comparing hardware in such a stupid way, why the hell would they put so many processors like that, it is a $100 CPU.

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>>61591612
Amada a shit

>>61591070
>tfw upgrading from phenom
feelsgoodman

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>>61591612

>>61590561
Then you overclock the Ryzen chip and it's better at everything. Enjoy trying to overclock the 7100.

>>61590491

4C

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>>61591821
Say that to my face fucker, not online, and see what happens.

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>>61588463
wtf toms supposed to be on our side

>>61592134
They even started ::le gasp:: recommending AMD CPUs in their best CPUs lineup.

>>61590646
Not having to buy a shit tier dual core on a dead platform? I don't think anyone recommends gaming on Intel's iGPU

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>>61589298
>I only run 1 program on my pc
> I don't have a web browser, music player, overclocking software, etc

enjoy your s-shuttering

>>61589427
Woah its like I actually have some work to do on my PC.

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>>61592572
then buy a 1700 or threadripper you dirty yapping fucking mutt

>>61591803
Are you retarded you fucking cunt?

There are K series cpu's in there and he is not overclocking them but DOES overclock the ryzen cpu.

Fucking dumb ass AMD fanboy

>>61592619
>he doesnt own multiple rigs for various tasks
top jej

>>61592546
I think you misinterpreted something.

>>61588463
>no oc'd 7350k in there

Oh wow, he isn't even hiding it anymore

>>61592743
i3-7350K was a joke at launch and remains a joke at an eye-watering $180 MSRP.

>>61592703
I just wanted to post that image

>>61592546
I don't know what you might be seeing on Windows, but I'm keeping tons of programs open in the background, including but not limited to 40+ Chromium tabs, and my background CPU usage is on the order of 5%. While I do happen to have a quad-core CPU, it's hard to argue that a dual-core would have trouble handling that in the background.

>all this MUH FPS jerking off
>5-10 FPS difference with a 1080 ti or Titan Xp

People who actually buy these CPUs are going to be pairing it with a similarly priced 1050 or 460 anyway.

>>61591735
>Buy B350 board for $65 and $110 for Ryzen 3
wow i can overclock
>Buy Z270 board for $120 and $90 for a Pentium or $120 for an i3
wow i can overclock it as much as daddy intel allows me to

Fucking retarded Intel fanboy

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>>61588323
Wow, no surprises here, they are fucking shit.

Ryzen overall has been a massive dissapointment, I'll be sticking with Intel personally.

>>61590333
>Thinking that AMD could ever go out of business
They can survive on licensing fees for x86-64 quite comfortably

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>>61593558
>Ryzen 3 (poorfag oriented) not quite as competitive in gaymen as we hoped
>Meanwhile Ryzen 5/7 has much better multi threaded and like 90% of the single threaded perf. for half the cost of comparable Intel parts
>"Ryzen overall has been a massive dissapointment"
>MFW

>>61593558
>Ryzen overall has been a massive dissapointment
Only if you LOVE paying 100% premium for 10% better performance.

There are people who would still buy Intel if AMD was 10x more powerful.

>>61593558
>every reviewer reccomends R3 over i3's
>every reviewer reccomends R5 6 cores over i5's
>every reviewer reccomends R7 over the i7-6900K
>HURR DURR IT'S SHIT

Fuck off retarded fanboy, you were never going to buy AMD. Kill yourself.

>>61593613
Ryzen 3 is not only better than the overclockable i3, yet, the i3 unlocked is more expensive and need a z270 board to be overclocked against a b350 that can be bought for 99 bucks.

Whats the point? Most people with i3's are using the shitty iGPU, at this point integrated graphics matters. Why price R3 the same as an i3 with Intel HD? It should cost less than the G4560 tbqh.

>>61593705
More like $70 if you get a micro ATX
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350M-GAMING-PRO-Motherboard/dp/B06X3Y7KB5/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1501182753&sr=1-2&keywords=b350&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011

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>>61593613
>ryzen is shit in the real world
>'b-but atleast it puts out good benchmark numbers!'

AMD fanboys are pathetic.

Would this 1300 be good upgrading from Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz?

>>61593757
>"Ryzen is shit in the real world"
>Doesn't have any data to back that up
There's no logical way to refute your retarded argument anon. I may as well say that Intel CPUs perform worse in zero gravity because there's no way you can disprove it.

>>61593757
Ryzen massively outperforms Intel on anything that isn't games.

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>>61593757
Get back to work, Brian. Shareholders aren't paying you to shitpost.

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>>61593798
>Intel's last generation 7700K absolutely pissing on Ryzen 3 1200, almost 3x the performance
Almost like in the real world Ryzen is total shit.

I'm sorry you guys fell for yet another Bulldozer-tier release.

>>61588463
Jewtel is literally dead.

>>61588479
>1200 beating i5 7500
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAH

>>61590730
>Bristol Ridge is also launching today, btw
source?

>>61593757
>>61593971
Why are there fucking garbage shills on every piece of shit board on this god forsaken website?
Just fucking fuck off already.

The worst part is that you absolutely don't believe in anything you just posted, either.

Is it a good time to buy a high end CPU right now?

Want to upgrade my rendering workstation with a i9-7900X. Or can I expect the price to go down quickly?

>>61590038
Coffee Lake most likely will, and probably Cannonlake too. Intel usually switches sockets at the architecture releases.

>>61594157
Threadripper launches August 10th and will be a much better option for a rendering workstation.

>>61591735

So unfair to not overclock the Intel CPUs that are not overclockable.

>>61594218
>will be a much better option for a rendering workstation.
why

Intel's locked cpus are for literal cucks.

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>>61594246
16 cores vs 10 for the same price.

>>61594257
Thanks, do you have the link to that page?
I render video, I don't work in 3d. Perhaps they have a premier pro benchmark

>>61594051
Mods are on vacation today, haven't seen a single shitpost get nuked.

>>61594287
That is the only benchmark we have for Threadripper at the moment.

>>61594321
Sounds cool, I'll wait it out
Maybe it will be my first ever amd cpu

I use software which doesn't make use of multiple cores very well
which is the best cpu I can get with not many cores

>>61588577
>Intel
>giving away RAID keys to pay their shills
They pay them with pens and pin badges.

>>61590561
>by 2%
>including massive outliers like rocket league
you tried

>>61595089
I thought rocket league was funky with nvidia drivers on both intel and amd, but worse on amd whilst amd gards give similar performance on both cpus. I really wish someone would do some proper tests on this nvidia dx12 shit.

In fact I could probably borrow a 1060 or 980ti from work, but can only compare it to my 290 on my r7 1700 and I have no idea how to create repeatable bench marking.

>>61588323
Get fucked, frogposter. gb2/b.

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The Ryzen 3 isn't worth it
It is not good as a workstation (still better than the i3) nor as a gaming cpu. If i you wanted to build a low budget gaming pc you'd get intel Pentium or i3. And if you wanted workstation pc anything that has less than 6 cores and is less than 700$ is not worth it

>>61595268
This guy >>61595441 was right

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>>61590646
>>61590693
>>61590706
>i3's ONLY advantage over r3 is 2% extra performance in gaming
>disadvantage greater than 10% in every other task
>>w-why doesn't r3 have integrated graphics?! AMD b-btfo!

>>61595503
This isn't what was being said in those posts at all and you know that.

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>>61588323
How to activate disabled cores?

>>61595441
>build low budget gaming PC
>pair it with a 1080 ti

Retarded frogposter logic.

>>61595636
The reviewer is retarded, they're just lower binned CPUs.

>>61595636
They are physically disabled and can't be reactivated

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>>61595649
I didn't say that.
A i3 paired with 1050ti performs better than a ryzen 3 paired with the same graphics card because Intel processors perform better in gaming and have higher clock speeds. And the ryzen 3 workstation performance is low and not worth it (if you want a workstation pc don't consider anything lower than the r5 1600).

>>61595923
>He doesn't even know what a GPU bottleneck is
Back to /v/ now, retard.

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>>61595945
Well a bottlenecked i3 still performs better than a 50% ryzen 3 unless you pair it with a 400$ graphics card which opposes the purpose of a low budget gaming pc

>>61596131
You should be castrated for the sake of the gene pool.

>>61593971
Reminder that PC Gamer still reccomends i5's and tried to make delidding sound easy or reasonable thing to do. They are at best retards. Also lol at that cherrypicked result when every other game is neck and neck except for Shitcry Primal. http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-3-review/

>>61596131
>Well a bottlenecked i3 still performs better than a 50% ryzen 3 unless you pair it with a 400$ graphics card which opposes the purpose of a low budget gaming pc
You misspelled "identically"

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>>61596172
>>61596213

>>61588924
Multi core performance is too low to compete with HEDT. That thing can't even beat my shitty Haswell Xeon.

>>61596172
>>61596213
Why be a fanboy when you can get the thing that benefits you the most
>Low price range: Intel
>Mid price range: AMD
>High pric range: depends \/
>Multitasking, multi threaded tasks, workstation: AMD
>Gayming: Intel

>>61596304
Do you not understand what "bottleneck" means? No wonder you're an intel fan.

Should I get a R3 1200 + RX 550 system for my dad? Or should I wait for the APU's?

Intel is fucking dog shit

>>61596344
That is about the same performance as I'd expect out of the next gen APUs.

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>>61596324
You can't get the Pentium for 60 bucks anymore. So if you're recommending i3 over R3 you're a delusional fanboy.

Same if you're recommending Intel for gaming, because gaming is GPU bottlenecked. Have you ever even played games? Even a Titan Xp bottlenecks unless you run shit settings which makes your game look like garbage. But you wouldn't know that, because you're a non-gamer.

>>61588565
This is AMDs first series with AMT goy.

>>61596411
>So if you're recommending i3 over R3 you're a delusional fanboy.
Having an iGPU is a pretty significant advantage for a lot of scenarios where you're only spending $120 on a CPU.

>>61588463
>i5 BTFO
no i5 benchmark in there u fucktard

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>>61588444
I unconsciously read LinusCockTips as LinusTechTips

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>>61588323
Rest in Pieces

>>61589406
They're not the same thing. HT is Intlel's reverse-engineered ripoff of IBM's SMT that generally performs worse.

>>61596471
It's only an advantage if you're using bare metal virtualization, which you probably aren't with something this weak. Or if you're doing office PCs. Which you probably aren't. The only people who buy desktop CPUs these days are enthusiasts. The normie market has moved to phones and laptops.

>>61596524
SMT is the proper name for the technology however it's done and whether it's done by AMD, Intel, or IBM. Hyperthreading is just Intel's trademarked buzzword for their version of SMT.

>>61588919
>Nothing matters besides gaming, everything else is 0.5% of the market

This is really badly worded and in this form extremely wrong.

What you SHOULD be trying to say is that on the end consumer market, everything is gaming. Because that's reality, laptops, and more importantly cellphones have killed the general consumer PC market. So the major use for higher end consumer PCs is gaming related.

BUT, you can't just say "the market" because the majority of the markets profits come from businesses, either data center or standard enterprise, where gaming is irrelevant.

But this is /g/, facts are irrelevant and they need to cry about video games 24/7 for some reason.

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>>61595945
>>61596172
>>61596327
>>61596411

>>61596556
HT specifically refers to Intel's implementation of SMT, which does not perform like IBM's implementation (which AMD has a license for). HT is distinct from the regular SMT everyone else uses. It scales worse.

>>61596609
Why are you testing with garbage CPU like G4560 which can't even run GTAV properly? You need minimum quad core for GTAV.

>>61596411
>You can't get the Pentium for 60 bucks anymore
And despite the higher price, people still avoided recommending the i3. The R3 offers equivalent performance, but this is somehow now acceptable?
>because gaming is GPU bottlenecked
Uh, no? It depends on the combination.
CPUs need to be fast enough to drive the GPU you put in. Stick a 1070 with a weak CPU and you're going to have a bad time.

>>61595923
Dual core PC's, even with 4 threads, are almost unbearable to use though if you have multiple programs open. You'll get CPU bottlenecked trying to extract a file or update. You basically can't play games while Windows is updating (which Windows 10 does automatically, don't forget) because the CPU is too busy with desktop processes to give a fuck about your game. Only a laptop can get away with dual cores in 2017, I wouldn't recommend anything less than 4C/4T for a desktop, even for normies, unless you're an ultra poorfag. Pentium and i3 only look good in benchmarks because reviewers use a clean Windows install, factor in normie shit like auto update, auto starting apps and typical bloat and they just can't handle it.

>>61596411
I don't even use an intel processor, I use the ryzen 1600.
What i am trying to say is that amd ryzen 3 choice was bad. They should have exchanged the 2 cores for a higher clock speed + hyperthreading

>>61596471
If you're destitute enough that you can't afford a dGPU, AMD"s FM2 and FM2+ APU's are still an option, you can find them for dirt cheap and have better graphics and drivers than Intel. Sure, A8's and A10's aren't as good in single thread performance as Intel, but with an iGPU you'll mostly be playing older or low spec games anyway.

>>61596714
AMD literally launched Carrizo for AM4 today (Bristol Ridge).

>>61588485
>tfw STILL have a 2500k
shit I'm looking for an excuse for a fresh new system at this point
Lord help me

>>61591149
I did that deal years ago and got my 4770k for $130 shipped

>>61596726
Looking at it, I'm wondering if the retail CPU's will be overclcokable. Apparently someone overclocked the OEM A12 9800, but it's confusing since there's no "k" SKU's like the previous APU's.

>>61596662
LTT mentions this in his review.

>>61596619
AMD didn't license SMT from IBM, the entirety of Zen sans the lithography was homegrown by AMD
Games aren't patched to recognize AMD's logical cores as logical cores

>>61596813
A12-9800 is a pretty good G4560 competitor if you need integrated GPU. Only $100. And the R7 Graphics crushes the HD 610 in the G4560.

>>61596852
>>61596619
Games nor the windows scheduler can't even recognize intel logical cores...

>>61596609
>shows a cpu bottleneck scenario instead of a gpu bottleneck one
retard

>>61591149
The Apex is pretty shit unless you're a hardcore overclocker. It's lacking a lot of everyday features in favour of the overclocking stuff.

>no Raven Ridge until 2018Q1
At least they finally launched the AM4 APUs to the public, they will be a nice placeholder for RR builds, specially since they probably will be launching for less than 120
>>61594712
You forgot the 10 Starbucks gift cards for top shills

>>61588788
And it's beating the shit out of i3-7350K, 7100s and i5-7500s
The 6100 isn't manufactured anymore and it's cheap since it's a year old

>>61595571
It is

>>61594034
Check Tom's
They probably will be ignored, of they're actually available it will be a nice placeholder for RR, and a memento of the Bulldozer era

Throw me a recommendation please?

My girlfriends using a fucking trinity APU for video editing (1080p, maybe some 4k) and I was considering making her a build with either the 1300x, 1500x, or 1600.

I'll assume the 1600 is neccesary as more future projects call for 4k.

>>61597211
Get 1600.

>>61597211
1700 would be the spot then. A 1600 is good but not that good at 4k.

>>61590990
If you're never planning to get a dGPU Bristol Ridge beats the shit out of Pentium's and i3s thanks to the much superior Radeon integrated graphics
If you're planning to buy a dGPU then skipping the iGPU and getting a R3 it's the best value, if you can't afford a dGPU then Bristol Ridge as a placeholder and then upgrading to Zen in 2018 it's much better value
The only reason to buy Intel now it's the 7700K for delidded speed demon builds for gaems and single thread workloads

>>61591813

>It's an AMD shill whines about decade old CPU testing methods that eliminate GPU episode

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>>61596992
Wtf is that?

>>61597061
UK prices have them from £40 - 90, full fully enabled 9700 at 70 and smallest four core at 57

>>61597331
A CPU bottleneck is where the CPU can't pass instructions fast enough to the GPU, so the GPU has to wait until the CPU is finished with the game simulation before it can render. You generally DON'T want a CPU bottleneck in games since that's the usual cause of stutters and framerate drops. The G4560 is useless paired with anything higher than a 1060 since a 1070 and up can literally render faster than the CPU can process game logic.

>>61596327
Not anyone above. Bottleneck happens when gpu is so fast the cpu can't keep up. The only time bottleneck happens is when you pair a 1000 burger bucks gpu with a 100 burger bucks cpu. Which not what the others are talking about, budget gaming uses low/mid range gpu that games would be more gpu bound than cpu.

If you didn't project the 1080ti suggestion then it wouldn't gone down this path, anon.

>>61593971
go back to /v/, Ryzen is a productivity CPU for people who actually have jobs.
Kill yourself, and you picked a shilling sauce anyway and surrounded by contradicting shit by other anons.

Everything else > Gaming, companies will buy Ryzen over Intel because it's a better workhorse.

>>61588323
No IGPU no buy.

>>61598255
Get an A12-9800 instead, then. $10 cheaper, on par with a G4560 and has a much better iGPU. Like 3 times better at least.

>>61596813
According to Tom's the entire Bristol Ridge lineup comes with unlocked multipliers
>>61598616
You forgot the best part, your mobo will last until 2020 with future AMD processors