Core i7-8700K (Coffee Lake) Specifications - 4.7 GHz Turbo

housefires

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>>61569743
>these clocks
>small IHS
>hewbrew cum TIM

>>61569743
Can you at least try not to make it obvious you're shilling? It's no fun when I can tell right away.

>B-B-but you don't need more cores since single thread performance is all that matters t. intelfanboii anon
>Intel proceeds to add moar cores
>This is awesome t. intelfanboii anon

Moar cores is the future faggots. Anyone who says otherwise is illiterate stupid retard.

>>61569802
How am I shilling?

Intel literally keeps adding cores but keeps excellent single threaded performance.

You can't say that for AMD.

It will only get better with 10nm and 7nm.

>>61569838
>Intel literally keeps adding cores but keeps excellent single threaded performance.
THE FIRE, BRIAN.
THE FIRE RISES.

>>61569810

Of course more cores is the future, but when you compare for example a Ryzen 1800X and a 7700K then the point when talking about gaming for example.

Coffee Lake looks nice, and if it fits older boards it's a nice move from Intel.

AMD is fucked.

>>61569838
So they pulled the same trick as the last several years. What's the big deal? You're talking like this a brand new thing they came up with.

How would you even cool this shit?
The chip itself and IHS is much smaller and jewish shit is not going to get magically better.

>>61569863
Anons seemed to love those 4-core processors when ryzen came out. They shilled their asses off

>>61569852
Show me applications besides LE CINEBENCH that take advantage of lower clock high core CPUs?

>Protip
You can't

And it won't get any better.

Higher clock speeds with high single threaded performance is still preferred as parallel processing will never get better especially for gayming.

>>61569884
Can i have a source for that gayming will never use moar cores? You're just bullshitting since you don't know what you are talking about

>>61569884
What the fuck Brian?
Are you going for bibelines again?
>Higher clock speeds with high single threaded performance is still preferred as parallel processing will never get better especially for gayming
2005-2017.

>>61569884
Turn around. You're talking out of the wrong end.

To be honest I would have liked to see Ryzen have an option to overclock higher using lower core counts like this. It would put paid to the Intel shills and their Farcry Primal fps and other games that are single core reliant. Imagine if we had been able to overclock a Ryzen 1600 to 4.8Ghz on a single core though AMD's CPU app.

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>>61569898
It will be rare to get highly optimized games like Doom (2017) etc.

Most gaymes are ports nowadays and developers can't spend time like Id Software/Bethesda and optimize it for the PC which is the least of their priorities for AAA games.

So no, it will never get better. Go launch task manager and look at how many cores are being used by your favorite gaymen.

Also higher clocked cores + higher core count is great for 3d applications such as Cinema 4D etc.

Also lets not forget, GPU rendering is the future, with realtime renderers such as Otoy Octane. So super high cores may not even be that relevant in the near future.

AMD failed and everyone knows it. Although I do appreciate that AMD forced Intel to make 8c/16t 7820x for $599 :^)

>>61569901
Good luck with your low clocked high core count CPU.

Maybe AMD can stay on 14nm and do pic related for years to come because they're desperate to take over the homeless budget PC market.

>AMD nearing $16 after q2 report

what a timeline.

>>61569941
>le games uses only 1 core meme
Most modern games use at least 4 cores you faggot because that's what i5/7 have.

>>61569969
please ignore ignorant autismo
let him experience another AC2 when the thing couldn't work on one core CPU at all barely running 15fps

>>61569941
>implying next generation consoles won't have 8c/16t processors equipped by default

>>61569948
Well fuck, they beat every expectation.

If that's true it's a very good chip, though common sense tells me that it should at least be 400MHz less for all core turbo unless we're talking motherboard overclocked housefires like with Skylake-X

>>61569743
THANK YOU BASED INTEL

>>61570004
just you wait(t and m) it's going to be within spec(kaby isn't) and OC to 5.5Ghz

'security of your pet and carpets not guaranteed

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And totally owned, like no other CPU before it.

Goddamn shills

>>61570004
Just delid it, goy!

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>>61569969
>At least 4 cores

kek lmao do your research fat ass.

>>61569986
>Le next generation konzoles

Nigga go fuck yourself.

A console is not a god damn PC and literally runs a custom OS and has an APU.

Those extra cores are laser focused on solving problems such as dealing with audio, etc. They are not random cores like in PCs that any process can take advantage of.

Why are posters on /g/ so fucking dumb?

Wow, another case of 'fuck TDP', that went so well last time.

>>61569986
>>>/v/

>>61570046
You'd have to work harder to get (You)s, my friend.

>>61569810
Moar cores only matters when intel does moar cores. Like how 64bit cpus only mattered after intel released one.

>>61569743
Will probably be shit.
The aggressive clocks are a dead give away that this 8700k has no IPC improvements.
6core skylakeX chips sick dick and fall behind the 7700k.
Any Intel chip doesn't scale worth shit past 4 cores.

When my 2600k dies, I'm going with Ryzen.

>>61570092
>expecting IPC improvements from a refresh
?

>>61569941
It hurts to read the shit you say. It's both horribly written and horribly stupid.

>>61569884
All these fags dont even own Cinema

>>61570040
>Paying extra for a chip you have to pull apart.

Thanks Intel.
Thanks Obama.

>>61569941
>Most gaymes are ports nowadays and developers can't spend time like Id Software/Bethesda and optimize it for the PC which is the least of their priorities for AAA games.

Consoles use 8 cores, you shill. It's easier to port a game to use 8 cores. next gen will 99% likely also use amd 8c CPUs. PCs have had (notice past tense) 4 cores as the standard since 2010 or so. That's why they optimized for low core counts.

But yes, they don't care about optimization up to a point. They just want their games to run at 60fps on most platform. Better threading would mean better performance even on 4c CPUs, but they just don't care. PC cpus are so powerful in comparison that they don't have to bother.

>So no, it will never get better.
That's pure bullshit. Games have progressively gotten better threading ever since dual cores became a thing. bulldozer is now on par, if not better than sandy bridge for gaming. There's nothing stopping games from using more cores, especially now with dx12. Physics, AI, rendering, everything can be offloaded to other cores. How do you think consoles work with those 8 netbook cores? Not even intel belives your shilling. 6c is the new standard from both intel and amd, and games will follow.

>>61570090
Getting there late to the party means they had no hand in maturing the standard. They're just hogging credit for shit they didn't create.

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>>61569743
>another rushed CPU lineup
oy vey, we all know how that ended up after recent experiences.
let's hope for the best anyway, maybe it'll convince me to stay away from ryzen for another while.

>>61570059
I'll fight you, faggot.

>>61570147
>It's easier to port a game to use 8 cores
It is not if we talk about your generic dx11 ports. It can be well paralleled on ps4 or xbone, but on pc most of the times it will run better on overclocked 7350k than on ryzen 7. Dx11 should die already.

Only problem with this is that it didn't come 4 months ago, but will launch not far off from Pinnacle Ridge.

>>61570155
>Getting there
It just means that intel controls standardization, or that amd jumps the gun for quick sales.

>>61569838
>>It will only get better with 10nm and 7nm.
Intel's yields certainly won't though, especially if their die is going to remain as large as it currently is.

>>61569941
>maybe AMD can stay on 14nm
>that damage control
>Kaby Lake is 14nm
>Coffee Lake is 14nm++

>>61570046
>A console is not a god damn PC and literally runs a custom OS and has an APU.
...With the same kind of CPU and GPU as a PC.


>Those extra cores are laser focused on solving problems such as dealing with audio, etc. They are not random cores like in PCs that any process can take advantage of.

One core is reserved for OS, the rest the game can do whatever it wants with. And they need to use all of them since single core performance is so weak.


>>61570208
>it will run better on overclocked 7350k than on ryzen 7
Generally not minimums though, and especially when you're using your PC as a PC and not a console, lower core counts will stutter.

>Dx11 should die already.
Indeed, and with core counts rising it eventually will.

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>>61569743
Intel keeps releasing housefire abortions after abortions. It's only downhill from here, intelbros.

14nm to 14nm+ was Skylake to Kaby Lake. The end result was 8% higher clockspeeds at stock that lead to about 8% improvement in performance. Unfortunately it had a harder time OCing due to thermal issues.

14nm+ to 14nm++ seems more like 5% improvement in clockspeeds. I think the real issue is going to be like some others said, thermals.

>>61570155
Reminder that IA-64 is an infinitely superior architecture to x86-""64"" trash and it only failed because it was ahead of its time.

>>61570945
>14nm
>14nm+
>14nm++
Literal jew marketing tricks.

>>61569743
>Is there anything Intel can do that's not super awesome?
Well yeah. Lots of stuff. For one, I take it this thing isn't soldered?

>>61570972
>VLIW turd
>"superior"
Yes-yes, compilers will TOTALLY fix it!

>>61570979
So you're saying Kabylake is just OCed Skylake and there's no process improvements?

>>61569838
>It will only get better with 10nm and 7nm.
>It will only get better with 10nm
>It will only get better
>10nm

LUL
Intel's 10nm node isn't clocking nearly as high, they've already said they expect worse performance when they make the move to 10nm

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>>61570972

>>61569838
>You can't say that for AMD.

>You can't say AMD increased core count and provided a 52% uplift in IPC

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>>61571018
Not that guy but the point is that it's shitty marketing talk. 14nm+ sounds like 15nm and really it's still 14nm, just a fine tuend process.

>>61569855
>and if it fits older boards it's a nice move from Intel.
You know we're talking about Intel here right?
This is going onto the x299 platform. Which in itself is so segmented even motherboard manufacturers make boards with less lanes just to deal with Intel's shit?

Seriously, 0/10 for effort so far m8.

Next time you make this thread try to be abit more obscure with your claims, everything you've said already has been disproved and shit over

>>61570046
>facebook image
Of course, not a shill at all!

>>61571060
>i hate FB because I have no friends!

>>61569941
>Maybe AMD can stay on 14nm and do pic related for years to come because they're desperate to take over the homeless budget PC market.

>He doesn't know AMD are moving to 7nm in 2H 2018
>he doesn't know AMD are moving to IBM's blackmagic 7nm LP+ in 2020

Come on now brian

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>>61571066
Brian please stop shitposting.

>>61569884
Sony/Magix Vegas/Movie Studio IIRC

>>61570147
Bulldozer still gets raped by Sandy Bridge retard, even in modern games. Fuck the 2500k even gets better minimums. And thats at stock, overclocked the 2500k is a monster and annihilates even Piledriver. FX was a failure regardless of cores, the module design and abysmal single core do it no favors.

I just want 6GHz 64 cores zen2 already. Fuck intel.

>>61570147
>bulldozer is now on par, if not better than sandy bridge for gaming

hahahah this amd shill straight up lying, lmao

>>61569743
>not the same clockspeed across all cores

Fucking...

D R O P P E D
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P
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>>61571319
Have you been living under a rock? This is how Intels turbo has worked for a while now.

>>61571383
All cores running at 4.7 on my machine.

Works great on my PC.

>>61571038
What would you call it, then? Because it sounds fine to me.

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>>61569884
R7's with fast RAM already tie a 5ghz 7700k in MUGH GAYMZ! You're about 3 months late to this shitpost, kikefriend.

>>61571319
Not like you can't do that yourself or anything

>>61569855
>AMD is fucked.
Not if they charge $400 for it like they do for their HEDT 6 core. They charge full $350 for i7-7740X, too.

>>61571421
>OP uses attention grabbing faggot headline like 'OH MY GOD ITS CLOCKED AT 4.7 FROM THE FACTORY'
>it actually isn't though
Pardon me for being somewhat upset.

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>>61569941
Yeah except for the part where the R7 with fast ram already ties a 7700k in modern games ( >>61571420 ) and eats it alive in other types of workloads.

I wonder how many intel and amd shills are in this thread?

>>61571463
t. intel engineer

>>61571441
It never said "all core" Did you even read it?

2 months ago
>Skylake-X 6 cores will overclock to 5.0GHz, it's like a OCd 7700k with 50% more cores!

Meanwhile in reality

>>61569743
If true I'll be replacing my 6700k.

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>>61571463
t. JUSTnich

>>61570972
>Reminder that IA-64 is an infinitely superior architecture to x86-""64""
It actually was.
>trash and it only failed because it was ahead of its time.
Well nobody was willing to wait, and shell out extra shekels for 64bit versions of the software they already owned.

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>>61569855
Intel is too greedy to charge a reasonable price.

>>61571482
>VLIW horseshit
>"superior"
Compliers would TOTALLY fix it!
Just wait AMDrone!

>>61569838
Actually, the Ryzen's IPC is higher than intel's on anything not using AVX.
Intel is just slightly ahead because literal housefire overclocking.
Also intel is getting 10nm, everyone else is getting 7nm.

>>61569743
>can be used in a z170 board
>but you need a skylake cpu to upgrade the bios to z270
>then you need a kaby lake cpu to upgrade the bios to z370

It's pretty fucking ridiculous.
Intel could cut 20% on its entire range just fine, and those prices would make them great even against AMD's superior offerings. Problem is though, AMD can just cut more. They can cut as much as they damn well please.

>>61571493
Want to know something funny?
The older AMD GPUs, before the GCN thing used VLIW.
And AMD somehow managed to make a decent VLIW compiler for em.
The rest of the drivers sucked but the vliw compiler did not.

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>>61571475

>>61571474
I don't care, fuck you. No one runs their fucking processor with separate clock speeds on each core you utter fucking retard. Get the fuck off my board.

>>61571512
It was only DECENT.
And you know why AMD dropped VLIW: it's total ass for GPGPU and extracting ILP from VLIW5 was getting harder and harder.

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Oy Vey

>>61571504
>source

Nothing matters to me but the benchmarks.
At least August is close.

>>61571519
Whew lad, calm down. You don't need to OC this chip. it just does it itself.

>>61571524
Just remember what happened with the 7000 series. In the case the 6 cores even support 1151 socket.

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>>61569743
>most likely supported on older z170
good joke

If Intel could actually release this chip next month, actually use solder rather jew cum and price it similarly to the 7700k, it would be a great chip. not gonna happen though.

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>>61571420
MUH
720p
GAYMEN

>>61571562
so nothing? I already have a z170, so I would probably buy this it did work.

>>61571524
It should be pretty fucking obviously, even to a /v/tard. You can't update the BIOS on most boards without a CPU installed, and you need a CPU that's compatible. If you buy a Z170 board, you need a Skylake chip to update the BIOS for Kaby Lake compatibility. The same will be true for both Z170 and Z270 to have Coffee Lake compatibility. Fine for existing owners, but not any dumbass running out to buy a "cheap" Z170/Z270 board for these and then needing to order a CPU too.

>>61571611
There other 6 core is $389

i swear if this is z170 compatible im gonna jizz my pantsu

>>61571420
>Ultra settings
>1080p and 1440p
Nice GPU bottlenecks there.

>>61571626
Should be obvious to a /g/tard I already own a z170

>>61571537
We still don't know if it's actually launching in August. We don't even know what motherboards look like and August is extremely close, so it's not looking very likely.

>>61571504
That's not how it works. Back to your AMD is winning, just Wait™ for the next big release thread you shill.

>>61571626
>>61571616
Iirc there was some functions that still didn't work with kaby lakes. Probably there's nothing actually new in this one though.

>>61571647
>1080ti
Jewpoo shill is completely braindead.

>>61571668
Like Optane or other bullshit? could care less.

>>61571659
Please explain how it works then, mr. totally not a shill shitposter.

>>61571659
>that's not how it works
Yeah, most likely you need a new mobo.

>>61571647
Oh no, it's the retard that thinks everyone plays at 720p. Quick, run before he starts comparing Zen to Bulldozer again.

>>61571684
I could see a "1151v2" socket become a reality

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>>61571463

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>>61571611
You don't simply tell the jew to stop being a filthy jew.

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>>61569743
>launching-in-august

Incels actually believe this!

>>61571647
>Nice GPU bottlenecks there
>1080ti
>1080p
>GPU bottleneck
?

>>61571463
>Unconfirmed leak
>AMDED!!!!!!! AMDED!!!!!!!1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDuAugAykcc

>>61571696
>not 640x480

>>61571683
If you have a processor that is compatible with your current bios, you can always use it to update the bios. Skylake processors aren't going to magically lose the ability to update the bios that makes additional cpus compatible. Being able to update the bios is a fundamental necessity for a motherboard.

>>61571504
You can just use Skylake to update the BIOS, and Microcenter can do it for you. Also AMD has the same issue. Its just something people have had to deal with.

>>61571787
The point is that if you want to buy a brand new cpu you need to own and keep an older one until you update the bios and install the new cpu. With other builds you can just sell off the older one and use the money on the new one.

>>61571519
Thats how turbo works you fucking retard. Its how Intel CPUs have worked for ages and its how Ryzen works as well. If you want all cores the same then overclock.

>>61569838
Except Ryzen increased single core perf and increased clock count.

>>61571808
What cpu are you planning on using between the time you sell the old one and install the new one?

?????????????????????????

>>61571808
I'm totally not worried about going hungry because I cant afford to float ~200 or something for a week or two

>>61571519
I have half my cores clocked to 4.6ghz and the other half clocked to 1.2ghz.
This way I can optimize my thermal load. I keep the faster cores idle in reserve for when Im ready to do some real work.

>>61570092
>When my 2600k dies
why would your cpu die?
a cpu should only die if youre doing some retarded shit.
its always a motherboard or power supply that gives out. (read electrolytic capacitors)

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>>61571886
This level of micromanagement is autistic af. I applaud your efforts at tuning your system to your desires, however.

You gonna pay for those:
>faster single core on stock
>moar cores
=~450$

>>61571981
My assrock Mobo died and took my 6600k with it. I am extraordinary wary of the Taichi Zen board being the best Mobo out there. Give it a year for them to start dying.

>>61569838
this
based intel

>>61572008
Process Lasso.

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>>61572061
>windows

>>61570169
it's still 14nm so your point might be true,

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>>61571659
>just Wait™ for the next big release thread
Where do you think we are?

>>61569743
taking bets that this will still be slower than a 1600, just like the 7800x

>>61570040
Oh I will. Have done way more for way less of a gain than using a $40 tool for a 25c temp drop. If you don't delid intel chips you don't belong on a technology forum.

>>61572110
It's clocked higher than the 7800 with less tdp

>>61571018
thats what it is

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>>61572127
>If you don't delid intel chips you don't belong on a technology forum.
This is what happens when you drink the cuck kool-aid.

>>61572127
>wrecking your chips is now elitism because you're jew company wants to screw you over multiple times
All my keks.

>>61572159
Okay but a delidded 7700k on an asus prime board with ddr4 4266 cl19 is the best possible config for high fps.
Everything else is objectively inferior.
>>61572173
"idk how to use glue" the post

>>61572110
Not using the shitty mesh or cache changes and it doesn't have as much uncore, it's also 14nm++, so probably not.

From these leaks it looks like it could be 30% faster single core and 20% faster multicore than a 1600X. If true that's pretty impressive. If they price it at $340-$350 then AMD could be in trouble. However it will likely be $390-$400.

>6 cores
>iGPU
>still 14nm
This thing is going to be huge and a lot more expensive than Ryzen. Top binning will be $500 easily.

Meanwhile AMD is already selling a 6c/12t for $200.

>>61572209
iGpu? Take 15 watts off the tdp then. Or enjoy gpu passthrough.

>>61572008
I was just shitposting.
Is it even possible to select what program is using what core?
why the fuck would anyone clock their cores differently.

>>61572044
>I am extraordinary wary of the Taichi Zen board being the best Mobo out there.
sucks about your i5, but what the fuck does this sentance even mean?
is this tiachi zen suposed to be good? why would you buy something that sounds so chinky?

>>61569743
>Using anything but a Q6600

>>61572110
It's not using Intel's shitty new bingmesh and has significantly more L3 cache than the 7800X (12MB vs 8.25MB). It should destroy it in games.

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>>61571247
Correct, its better than haswell

>>61572282
The general consensus among zenfags is the Taichi is a top choice. I don't share the newfound love of assrock mobos. I got a better chip for $20 bucks from Intel, so whatever.

>>61569743
I project a 500$ price tag

>>61569855
When does this come out again?

>>61572326
Strange they chose non-k Skylake parts in that comparison.

>>61569941
Please grow up or go back to >>>/v/

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>>61569941
>Go launch task manager and look at how many cores are being used by your favorite gaymen.
Pic related is my CPU usage while playing Nier Automata, a shitty unoptimized port

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>>61572194
>20% faster multicore than a 1600X

No

>>61572386
>g*rman

>>61571018

Kaby Lake is a Skylake with an update IGP and SGX. Nothing was done to the core CPU logic.

>>61572044
Asrock isn't too bad, MSI is the worst VRM offender by far

>>61570046
If I could I would murder you right now

>>61572339
>my ASCock motherboard died so all their motherboards die

Excellent logic, friend. I recently had an ANUS one dead out of the box, so I'll vouch for all their boards being dead out of the box. Let's expose (((motherboards))) for the scam they are and stop using them!

>supported on older Z170 and current gen Z270 and upcoming Z370
This would be great desu. I'd sell my 7700k and pay basically nothing for a 6 core Intel processor.

>>61572388
Well they're still just unconfirmed leaks. The other leak seemed more in line with what you'd expect, assuming 14nm++ did little to nothing or the changes from moving to 4 to 6 cores ate up whatever improvements it gave.

>>61572190
>Defending Jewish practices like using bubblegum as TIM
Good Goy

>>61572420
Kek

>>61572488
That was not my intention at all and I do not believe that it should be defended. That said the situation is what it is and delidding makes total sense for the k series chips. You can even just glue the IHS back on if you want to resell it.
I would much rather it be soldered but the 7700k is the best gaming CPU, especially if any of your games have any ram scaling(the two that I play do) because you can use up to 4266 cl19 with it. So I'm going to delid it because a soldered one isn't for sale.

>>61572420
That's exactly why I bought an EVGA.

>>61572420
>Let's expose (((motherboards))) for the scam they are and stop using them!
fuckign this.
a motherboard is nothing but a breakout board for the cpu just like an "arduino" is just a breakout board for an atmel chip.

everyone needs to just learn to roll their own motherboard and save literally hundred of dollars.

got my 6700k rigged up deadbug style right now

>>61572519
>doing a manual modification that ruins the warranty is totally normal
>using the cpu out of the box is not
Clever shill, it actual mindbreaking?

>>61572628
Yes good goyim yes do not void your warranty.
nigger i dont think theres a valid warranty on a single thing I own at this point.
Are you a computer enthusiast or just a good goy? You telling me you don't replace thermal paste on your gpu because it would void your warranty?
Don't upgrade your ram or replace a hdd in a laptop because it voids the warranty?
Don't root your phone because it voids the warranty?
Not to mention people have delidded, killed the cpu with a million volts, glued the IHS back on, and RMA'd it.
Would love a soldered 7700k in the meantime bare-die is what we got.

>>61569838

Intel has not upped their clocks in 5 years. The magical 5Ghz limit is still only broken on some golden sample cherry picked chips by some hardcore overclockers on custom loop watercooled systems.

Meanwhile, AMD will bring out 5Ghz 7nm chips NEXT YEAR - probably around the same time when Intel shills start telling us that clocks don't matter.

And right now, benchmarks everywhere show that ALREADY, AMD Ryzen CPUs are practically on par with current Intel offerings in games (on average) and far outpace anything Intel offers in compute workloads. Intel's answer to that seems to be unsoldered messes that have weird per core overclock settings, draw a lot of power and are almost impossible to cool.

I have been using an i7-2600k for 6 years and was always very happy with it. My new 1700 blows it fucking out of the water - even in games, even though it is only running at 3.9Ghz instead of the 4.8Ghz I got out of the intel chip. In everything else, it is simply better.

I don't understand, why there must be so much shilling. It is an objectively visible fact that intel fucked up, is putting out questionable (at best) products onto the market right now and has nothing up their sleeves. How is that hard to understand?

Of course they will recover. Which is good, because competition drives progress. But right now they offer nothing of value when compared to AMD's CPU lineup.

>>61571148
sauce please

>>61572664
>>>/diy/
Also, yes void your warranties, so the jews can sell you more stuff and replace for free less. Retard.

>>61572716
Just how many times have you RMA'd a CPU? Every CPU in my possession, even the one in this 100lb steel case that can barely run damn small linux works fine. They literally last forever unless you use insane voltages and if you do just glue the ihs back on and fuck intel over with an RMA. It's motherboards that die. That's why the sandy bridge boards are going up in price, the chips out live the boards.
If you have a K series chip, are playing above 60hz(second best selling monitor on newegg is 144z), and know how to OC if you don't delid you're leaving performance on the table.

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>>61569743
And why would I want this instead of the Skylake X 6 core again?
For that sweet dual channel RAM and only 16 PCIe lanes?

>>61572749
It's okay that you CAN do it, but saying that it's perfectly normal and should be encouraged and it's the normal thing to cut the metal lid off with a razor blade then glue it back if you want to properly use your cpu, as opposed to just using out of the box is fucking ridiculous and rather sad that people with this mindset exist.

>>61572138
>It's clocked higher than the 7800
no it isnt, the 7800 at 4.7 ghz is still slower than a 1600 at 4 ghz, just face it intel is fucked and no one will buy this shit

>>61572839
I clearly said i am NOT defending it. However if you already own one or need one for say 144hz why not do it?
I would much fucking rather them just sell soldered chips but while they're not I'm gonna delid.

>>61572862
Modding is okay, but it shouldn't be forced and you shouldn't be happy about it if you have no choice but to do it. Don't say how perfectly fine it is that you have to delid Intel chips if you want to use them properly. It's not a secret feature, it's the manufacturer jewing out on a premium product. What would you say if you bought a Ferrari and the first thing you had to do was to replace some bearings or other small things of you wanted to drive it over 200 km/h? You shouldn't say it's normal if you knew that it's because of the manufacturer's fault.

>>61572388
keep in mind the 7800x only looks good in synthetics, real world rendering, pro shit, and gayming is actually way worse on the 7800x than the 1600x

>>61572764
because the skylake x has worse performance than a 1600 and costs twice as much

>>61572712
Hardware Unboxed did a video on it, the 2500k vs the 8350. The i5 won every single game except mafia 3 and had better minimums in most too. Ironically Sandy Bridge aged BETTER than Bulldozer in gaming, despite FX having more cores. Its just annoying because /g/ has been saying for 6 years now that FX would age well due to optimizations but it really never did. The FX 8350 can match the i7 2600k in heavily multithreaded applications, but the single core performance makes it horrible at gaming even in optimized titles.

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>>61573063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBKFz9n2hc
relevant

>>61573063
>intel shlling unboxed

>>61572260
>Is it even possible to select what program is using what core?
Go to task manager, right click process, priority

>>61573163
Hardware Unboxed have taken a bigger dump on Skylake-X than most channels.

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This is the other unconfirmed leak we got which sounds much closer to what you'd actually expect. Maybe they're both fake, who knows. It's all speculation until we get official info.

>>61573277
The user that posted the 4.7Ghz single core boost in the forum linked in the OP was the same guy who leaked the Skylake-X SKUs, i think it's pretty trustworthy.

>>61573163
If you've watched literally any videos by him he's been pro Ryzen and shitting on skylake x nonstop. Why does /g/ just mindlessly accuse anyone who disagrees with them a shill?

>>61569743
> Is there anything Intel can do that's not super awesome?
What? You mean that 6-core $320 CPU? The $200 R5 1600 performs 95% of it, and the $300 R7 1700 outperforms it by a large margin.

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>>61572764
>wanting Skylake X

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i was going to get ryzen, but i guess i'll just wait™ now.

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>>61569743
Amd is finished.
This CPU wipes toy cores from ryzen

>>61573648
It's like comparing apples to oranges.
Amd maybe have more cores, like an arm CPU, bt IPC and frequency is mediocre, not to say shitty memory support.

>>61569743
inb4 Cannon Lake is 8 corez

>>61569999
How did nobody notice these quads?

>7700k corelet already squashing all Ryzen CPUs
>now Intel adds two cores
>muh price/performance

Kek

How about getting a real job instead of being poor?

>>61574034
This shit's prob. not coming out until next year.

>>61574095
And then anon woke up.

>>61574059
How many threads are you going to shit up?

>>61571067
I thought they were moving to IBM's ridiculous 7nm with 5ghz clocks for Zen2 in the next year or so?

>>61574125
It's H2 2018 for HVM.
So expect Zen2 ~Q4 2018.

>>61569941
>that reddit spacing

>>61574125
Just like Vega winning over Nvidia
>Just wait
Amd just offer promises. You really believe e it will be able to deliver a CPU on 7nm so soon? And first iteration on 7nm will hit 5ghz? Stop being delusional.

>>61574265
>You really believe e it will be able to deliver a CPU on 7nm so soon? And first iteration on 7nm will hit 5ghz? Stop being delusional.
Into the oven, animal.
t. IBM Nazi scientist

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>>61569743
>6 core 12 threads
>4.7 ghz turbo

Lol AMD is done

>>61569941
>stay on 14nm
Nope, 7nm here we come. Enjoy your 14+++++nm & 10nm lakes

>>61569743
>>Most likely supported on older Z170 and current gen Z270 and upcoming Z370

sure

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>Intel has reportedly spent over US$100 million to order five EUV machine sets from ASML, to accelerate its pace of manufacturing.
>YFW Dutch

>>61574379
>five EUV machine sets
wait, did they make them working finally? EUV is not due until 2020 optimistically

>>61571399
That's overclocking.

Stock "Turbo" has been 1 core only on Intel forever. It's only lately that their Turbo has been applied to the other cores, which has helped cause that severe overheating.

>>61574406
Samsung and GloFo will have them up in 2019

>>61574406
Well hello there!
GloFo and Samsung are inserting EUV into production somewhere in 2019.

>>61574423
2019 is for non EUV 7nm, EUV comes later

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>>61574406
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4059013-switch-asmls-euv-lithography-will-impact-entire-semiconductor-supply-chain

>>61574435
Look at their month old roadmaps, DUV in 2018, EUV in 2019

>>61574435
No, 7nm DUV is going HVM H2 2018.

>>61574309
>hurr durr skylake-x gonna burry ryzen
>hurr durr coffee lake gonna burry ryzen
Starting to see a pattern here.

>>61574445
>Intel moving to 7nm 2 years after AMD
>Jumping right into immature EUV node
Jesus, their 7nm is going to be even more of a fuck up than their 10nm

>>61572696
>Meanwhile, AMD will bring out 5Ghz 7nm chips NEXT YEAR
>Another Massive Dissapointment shills actually believe this garbage

>Intel 7nm by 2019
The jews are dead.

>>61574505
Brian PLEASE.
Your 7nm fab is STILL under constuction.
And your 10nm is a total horsegoo FEOL-wise.

>>61574497
It's an article from March, things might have changed by now. Intel might have speeded shit up because of the succes of Ryzen.

If the reports of them already having purchased UEV machines are true, this certainly seems the case

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>>61574505
lol.

>>61574505
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/6879-exclusive-globalfoundries-discloses-7nm-process-detail.html

>>61574547
>that SRAM density for Intel's 10nm
HOW
DO
YOU
EVEN
FUCK UP THAT HARD?

>>61574547
Intel should just dissolve.

>>61574505
mad jewpoo is mad

Does this mean I can go ahead and buy a z270 board until Coffee Comes out? I need to slowly buy my parts to afford what I want.

Where's 10nm, jewtel?
Have you tried bribing the laws of physics, jewtel?

>>61574672
Why wouldn't you just get Ryzen?

>>61569743
>That disgusting shilling

>>61574694
Because I'm not poor and I don't need 50 cores

>>61574723
Why would you buy intel's inferior products

>>61574723
>I'm not poor
>I need to slowly buy my parts to afford what I want
Also since when does buying Ryzen make you poor?

>>61574740
>>61574753
Why are you replying to obvious bait?

>>61574672
No, because that 270 board will need a bios update. Either get a 370 board or wait until the absolute last moment and hope your 270 board ships with the latest bios. Or have a friend with a sky/kaby processor they will lend you.

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>>61569743
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>61574537
AMD doesn't even own fans and you Re shilling for amd? This is serious fanboys

>>61574095
yes because shilling for intel is such a good job

>>61572411
asrock has over designed everything about the taichi, with zen2 it may actually start using it if the chips are not voltage locked.

>>61574490
coffee could be a legitimate consideration depending on cost, heat, and power use.

the only thing wrong with kabby lake was really just that games will use all 4 cores now, and when all 4 cores are loaded and the bottleneck isnt on the gpu, the games run like hell.

>>61569838

Well, how about by not posting a link to a 3 month old thread.

>>61575657
It's already clear that if you do anything while gaming, a 7700k is simply not enough.

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fuck off brian, it hasn't even begun

>>61576495
Brian will be looking for a job before 7nm hits at this rate

>>61571522
Oh shit, they're gonna off Brian!

The high clocks tell me they didn't increase IPC at all.
The clocking differences on all cores tell me power usage is also an issue.

However, the 7700k's biggest issue was simply not having enough cores.
Having 6 cores will help a lot.

>>61569743

didn't they release 7700K in fucking february this year?

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>>61574094

They aren't Intell approved meshed quads calculated by years of R&D and engineer talent. Instead they are simply four 9's glued together to give the impression of monolithic repeating digits but lack the robust numbering system to provide you with the Get you desire.

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>>61576412
>suggesting Poozen for gaming
Yeah...no

>>61577322
>graph doesn't start at zero

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>>61577322
>using stutterlake

>>61576595
Oh, much earlier.

>>61577448

>inb4 its using a fury and thus doesn't count
>inb4 its at 1080p thus totally gpu bound
>inb4 Civ is a gpu bound game anyway
>in b4 Intel tears

>>61574094
THESE QUAD ARE ANTISEMITIC
BUT JEWS DO SOMETHING I NEED THE DIP

>>61577322
As I said, if you do anything while you game, you know which is basically multitasking, than that 7700k oc'd 4.9 shits itself beautifully. You can only do it on a ryzen.

>>61572628
It doesn't void the warranty,intelligence has to prove that delidding killed you processor and it was not manufacturer defect.

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>>61577608
>inb4 it's using a 1080 and doesn't count
>inb4 it's at 1080p and thus totally gpu bound
>inb4 who plays Rocket League at 4k
>inb4 AMD tears

>>61577930
>inb4ing something that doesn't happen

>>61577930
In that test the Fury performed far better with a Ryzen in that test than a 1080, which actually just fueled the early shistorm about Nvidia's drivers.

>>61569941
>bethesda
>optimize
>implying their games aren't console ports, either

>>61577993
Never underestimate the power of pure, unadulterated shilling
>>61578019

>>61578084
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/14

Performs like ass with a 1080
Performs fine with a Fury

>>61572326
So can I buy a FX-8350 used for gayming nowadays?
A mobo+cpu+ram+cooler goes for $150 on eBay. Worth it?

>>61578183
No. Not even remotely. That's likely a massive cherrypick. Just get an R3 if you're that poor.

>>61569743
>>3.7 GHz Base
>>4.3 GHz 6-core Turbo
thats fucking shit, my 6850k is as good as this.

>>61578221
R3+mobo+DDR4 RAM.
Just a new R3 will be $130 and that's the entire FX build including everything. Not that I'm that poor, but brazilian prices are sky-high.

>>61578183
Sure, why not
Used one for 2 years, it worked well
It is true that this Crysis 3 benchmark is one of the few that puts the FX8350 that far up, but you can expect i7 2600k performance in most games, which is plenty

>>61577322
>Shitty early access game pre-patch
>Over 144 FPS so who gives a shit
>Another one well over 144 FPS
>Game running on an engine from 2005 also well into the hundreds of FPS

Here's the actual video, too. Fuck off with this "no sourced benchmark" shit plz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnf5QzoLjG4

>>61578042
Fallout 4 runs at like 20fps on PS4 while looking dramatically worse than the PC version.

>>61569791
kek
/thread

>>61571420
Woah woah woah what the hell? 1080ti is struggling at 1440p? People keep saying that a 1080ti is overkill for 1080, yet it doesn't even hit 60 frames in some games for 1440p

When they say "utra" does that include all the bells and whistles like antialiasing/SMXAA etc all turned to max?

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>>61569838

>>61579078
12 hours late bitch

>>61578687
>used 880m for a few years at 1080p
>spend time with each game optimizing trying to get a good constant 30 or 60fps with at least high settings
>normally achieve it and games look great for the hardware I'm working with
>finally build a system with 1080ti in it
>thinking I can turn everything to max power at 1440p and still not have an issue since /g/ shills the 1080ti being an over kill for FHD/2k gaymin
>40 fps with everything truly turned to max
>have to turn MSAA down and maybe couple other things to get that 144fps
>Literally looks like my 17" 1080p graphics just with a bigger screen and more fps

IDK man, I haven't played a single game yet that I could get over 100fps with everything turned to max in game settings on newer titles. I'm glad I went with the 1080ti instead of a 1080 or 1070 like a bunch of fags over in PCB tried shilling.

>>61579110
It's never too late to call out Judaism

>>61579078
You're not funny.

>>61579308
That's what they tried to say after inhaling the friendly gas.

>>61579240
That always bothers me.
People claim they "maxed" a game, but they turn everything off to get 60fps.
My 1080ti struggles with every option to Max even at 1080p.

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>>61569743
This is without an OC

>>61578247
True, in that case it may be worth it.

>>61570092
R7 1700 were $269 on amazon yesterday directly from amazon

Though maybe wait for Ryzen Revision 2, or get on threadripper if you want the possibility of a ton of cores

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>>61569743
>6C
Corelets, when will they learn?

>>61579240
>>61579359
Only complete retards play on maxed settings, unless you're hitting 200fps+ anyway. Ultra settings in modern games have ridiculous diminishing returns, especially tesselation and ambient occlusion. I assure you, you can't see the difference between Ultra and Maxed on any game released after 2013, except for the framerate dips. Use high and minmax a bit for visuals.

>>61579543
Lisa is cute! CUTE!

>>61579598
>that one retard who chimes in with something stupid to say
You clearly have no concept in what every setting does if you say you can't see a difference. Leave /g/ four eyes

>>61572326
>tfw my i7 4770k already over 25% slower than ryzen
And I bet this chart is from before all of the bios and microcode updates as well.

>>61579868
Enjoy your placebo. I bet you'd need to take a screenshot and compare them zoomed in Photoshop with a difference layer to even tell the difference.

>>61579868
I have a concept. You won't see if your 500 tri roadblock is tesselated to just 5k tris instead of 20k tris when you get close. You also won't see whether your textures are baked to a 64x64 or a 128x128 mipmap when looking at them at an angle. There is such a thing as a sweet spot in graphics and lusting after the theoretical maximum is bullshit. It's useful for benchmarks because it's torturing the hardware, but in the real world go with high settings. Look up the 80-20 rule, it very much applies to this.

>>61579981
>>61579997
>oh man that chainsaw affect on that 27" 2k monitor is perfectly fine, its just all in your head guise you don't need msaa x8
>forget those realistic shadow affects, you just need those crisp sharp shadow textures with no distance scaling
Alright fa-m

>>61580060
>ultra settings don't include all of those things already
I just said that he shouldn't look at "maxed" performance, because some settings have incredibly high costs at the beyond-ultra levels while giving you almost no visual improvements.

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>tfw you are LITERALLY one of the top Intel shills but still hate them
Feels good man

>>61578336
It's more that fallout isn't optimised for consoles or pc. It's just bad all around.

>>61579389
>R7 1700 were $269 on amazon
My issue with ryzen is the shitty ddr4 support and non existent overclocking.
It will be fixed eventually so, I'll wait.
Although my 2600k has a hard ass time in Adobe premiere.

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>>61580355
How many Starbucks gift cards did you get?

>>61580670
>My issue with ryzen is the shitty ddr4 support and non existent overclocking.
You just need B-die to ensure high clock speeds, but 2400mhz with sub CL14 timings is plenty fast

They already opened up all the extra RAM stuff with AGESA 1006, it just takes work since not all XMP will work well out of the box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v73oXX1C-Q&t=911s

>>61580699
I got a $10 iTunes GC instead. Everyone got the $10 GC. Also won a weekly prize $15 Netflix GC, and a $20 Amazon GC. Only the Amazon was useful so far. Still waiting on something good to cash out ~$230 worth of points from their shit.

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>>61579543
>oven shaped cpu box

>>61580816
>>61579543
I'd unironically use that to store other things if the front lid isn't too hard to get off.

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>>61580834

>>61580709
Its not a matter of low latency moron, that is good for intel, for you on AMD DDR frequency dictates infinity glue, so you actually NEED higher frequency

>>61581170
I have an R7 1700 using the loose XMP 3200mhz is worse than when I was running 2400mhz CL12 or 13 on AGESA 1004

>>61571512
Terascale brought back the no drivers meem from late 90's ATi clusterfucks
VLIW it's a clusterfuck unless you have massive resources to throw at compiling, it gets much worse with game devs that need all their shit fixed by GPU vendors
As the other anon it only gets worse on GPGPU, and ILP was already well exploited and part of the reason AMD went from VLIW5 to VLIW4, it was a dead end unless they made some massive breakthrough

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>>61569941
>Also lets not forget, GPU rendering is the future,
If GPU rendering is the future, then you should go with the processor that has more PCIe lanes, right?

>>61569898
He's talking out his ass. For a lot of reasons, you're unlikely to see games taking advantage of more than 8 cores in the near future, but the past several years has seen a dramatic increase in the number of games using more than 2 cores.

Its not uncommon to see games capable of using 4 to 6 cores when available. A lot of games are also cross platform and architectures like the PS3, PS4 and XB1 encourage devs to get more creative with how they split up tasks due to these systems' relatively poor single threaded performance.

If you have to write for 3 or 4 different platforms it makes sense to write it in a way that takes advantage of the strength of 2 or 3 platforms rather than 1.

>>61574059
This is what corporations think of when they mention "the consumer".

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I am looking forward to seeing the gaming benchmark on this cpu and Ayymd

>>61569743
Is it time to finally upgrade from a 4790k? If so someone recommend a good motherboard so I can start getting new parts

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>>61569898
It already uses more cores/threads, even Xenoverse scales up to 16 threads

>>61572696
>Meanwhile, AMD will bring out 5Ghz 7nm chips NEXT YEAR
source: your ass