/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Doggo edition

Sorry for the delay in getting a new thread up. I got caught up in an argument on /o/

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVcLRG
Just wanna play first person shooters like overwatch, doom, and call of duty
rate pls

>>61568570
Both the CPU and the GPU are overpowered for games like that. You could get away with a 1400 and an RX 560 and still be perfectly playable

>>61568546
what were you arguing about? was someone posting (((the image)))

>>61568570
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tpKDgL
More RAM, ATX board, better PSU, more storage, SSD, fancier case
Get the 1050ti now and wait for the GPU market to go back to normal until you upgrade
280$ for a 1060 just isn't reasonable
You could get a slightly weaker card for a similar price almost 3 years ago
The 1050ti will do just fine for the next 2 years
The RX560 would be a weaker but cheaper option that will also do fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7vX2FT/powercolor-radeon-rx-560-2gb-red-dragon-oc-v3-video-card-axrx-560-2gbd5-dhv3oc
Get yourself a mechanical keyboard and some decent 15$ mousepad

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The parts in red will be transplanted from my current PC. Thoughts?

>>61568741
Some retard starting an argument that all small cars were death traps

>>61568755
If you're spending that much on the cooler, motherboard and memory, why not an 1800X?

>>61568743
ordering the gpu after the price is lower of course but thanks for the advice, also i plan on ordering the parts on different weeks and days so ill slowly build a pc

used R9 280x or new 1050 ti?

>>61568788
Because the 1800X is a meme? I need a lot of connectivity on the mobo for the next stage of my autism.

>>61568779
>he's never seen kei cars
you were right the whole time

>>61568755
>nex
if you want evga get a g2/g3 otherwise go seasonic

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>>61568541
please rate quickly, itching to buy

>>61568755
full tower is a meme and you're spending too much on a motherboard.

>>61568902
swap the psu for a higher end corsair, seasonic, or evga unit. Everything else is alright.

>>61568902
ram won't reach 3000 mhz, ryzen is a bitch when it comes to ram

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>>61568936
ok thanks!! i upgraded to a ryzen 7 1700, swapped the motherboard for an ASRock because i read that that gigabyte mobo wont boot linux (???), changed to 32gb ram also. still look good?

>>61568971
p.s. i'm cheaping out on the gfx card because i kind of want to wait until the next gen and either get a discounted 1080ti or a good new one.

>>61568952
i upgraded to a ryzen 7 1700 is that better?

>>61568971
looks good, just double check the QVL for the asrock board to make sure your ram is compatible at appropriate speeds.

>>61568971
not sure if trolling but a 1050ti is shit tier if you have the money to buy a seasonic prime and 32gb of ram get a better gpu first

>>61568971
I suggest less ram and get a slightly better mobo.

>>61568971
There is no point to more than 16 GB of RAM unless you need it for a specific purpose.

>>61568995
>>61569002
>>61568971
Also a better GPU. Less ram for sure though. I suggest either a GTX 1060, 1070, or a RX 580/570

>>61568995
see >>61568988

>>61568992
http://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/AB350M/index.asp#Memory

^ i dont know what the fuck any of this means, can you help?

Does R1600 have a protective film on it? Is thermal paste on the stock cooler enough for it?

>>61569016
Looked though it. I suggest dropping from 32GB to 16GB, also slightly lower speed. The speed differences are negligible unless you plan on doing something that uses up lots of ram and constantly requires ram usage.

>>61569016
>>61569049
this, but ryzen works well with higher frequency ram. 3000mhz is the sweetspot.

>>61569067
>>61569049
should i not get a better mobo then? can you suggest one?

>>61568920
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132989
Thoughts?

>>61569080
All mobo listings should tell you what RAM speeds are supported.

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Can you guys rate my setup?

I want to play dark souls series the most of any game.

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Which one is better price/performance, a 6700k with a mobo that allows OC or a 7700 non k with a cheap mobo.

Still looking at prices and the performance I'm seeing the 1600-1700 seems like the way to go because the only games I need to run at 120-144fps+ are shit like OW that the ryzen does perfectly, triple AAA shit and normal games I'm fine with 60-72. But I also like to do a lot of old consoles emulation and some badly optimized single core games like KSP and Intel still win on those sadly. Only one I'm seeing ryzen flexing it's cores it's the ps3 emulator.

>>61569161
neither.
Ryzen 5 1600 on a B350 OC motherboard

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>>61569118
>>61569067
>>61569049
>>61569015
>>61569010
>>61568995
>>61568992

thanks so much for your help guys. I decided to bite the bullet and go with the 1080ti, upgraded to a fucking 200 quid PSU, downgraded to 16gb ram, and chose a motherboard with bus speeds in the screenshot.
Only thing i'm not sure about is the motherboard. is this gonna be OK?

>>61569161
You can OC Ryzen to 4GHz with basically no effort at all, and then we're talking frankly unnoticeable framerate differences.

>>61569182
You don't need a platinum PSU desu. Gold is far and away enough for a nerd's gaming rig.

>>61568755
The supernova NEX is horrible

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What the fuck

>>61568971
No need for such an overpriced PSU
Just get a Seasonic G

>>61569205
id rather not risk everything getting fried by the PSU if im buying a 700 quid graphics card tho

>>61569224
m.2 cooling is relatively new. having it under the gpu on the mobo doesn't help either.

>>61569236
Aren't these things rated for 60 degrees tops?

>>61569127
Get a case without a PSU, those usually suck ass
Get a Seasonic G 550 or 650W, those are cheap-ish and good
What speed is that RAM?
Get a Ryzen 1600 and drop the cooler

>>61569232
I've been using a Bronze PSU for over 4 years. The ratings denote efficiency, not reliability. Just stick to reputable brands and pick the highest rating that's reasonable for your budget, with Bronze as an ideal minimum rating.

>>61569262
already paid..

>>61569232
Of course, but the 80+ rating isn't too relevant
The Seasonic G would be perfectly fine
Super Flower Leadex Gold (also known as EVGA G2 and G3) would also be great

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>>61569205
>>61569177
Yeah, looking at the benchmarks and shit out there It's hard to justify paying (at least here in spain) 200-240€ premium for the intel oc setup just because It will be somewhat better in 2-3 things. When at everything else I need the 1600 does as good or better. And looking at some CEMU/dolphin/pcsx2 benchs it will be an improvement over what I have and for rpcs3 ryzen's looking good.

Is pic related a solid choice? Will I be able to upgrade to ryzen+ or whatever is called for the extra ipc and clockspeed? Will I be able to oc this ram or is it better to pay the premium for 3000 ram?

>>61569317
>Will I be able to upgrade to ryzen+ or whatever is called for the extra ipc and clockspeed?
Yup. You'll just need to update the bios before upgrading

>>61569317
Faster RAM would be a good idea
And get an ATX board unless you really want that small form factor

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>>61569276
>>61569284
are corsair PSUs not good then? i kind of need to buy on this website and I can't find any 750W PSUs that aren't either the seasonic titanium or corsair. could i get away with a 650W? I'm buying a 1080ti now so i'd rather be safe.

i am also at a loss as to which motherboard to pick. the ASRock looks fine, but it's pretty cheap. Someone suggested a "slightly better one". I need some examples because I'm pretty lost.

>>61569335
Man I'm not used to that kind of nice for the consumer practices. So many years with intel got me used to some bullshit. Last AMD cpu I ever had was the athlon x2 6000+.

>>61569346
Holy shit I'm checking ram prices and they are out of whack. What the fuck is going on? Also, what's the go to chipset for ryzen, b350? is this board good?
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B06WWPDJ95/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_4HfEzbMA0RBNT

>>61569413
Forgot to add on the mb shit. Since I have a windowless, simple looking case I don't mind how does it looks even if it has leds or gaming bs on them. As long as the price/performance/realibity is good I don't give a shit.

>>61569403
>could i get away with a 650W? I'm buying a 1080ti now so i'd rather be safe.
You could get away with 550W. The only time you really need to go over 600W is if you're getting a dual GPU system or something equally exotic.

>>61569224
Welcome to M2 SSDs, buy a cooper heatsink.
They are rated for 70°C before the thermal throttle kicks in.

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I guess this is proper thread for my question.
Is it possible to find a decent 21-27 inch monitor for graphic design/3d modeling under 300 USD?

>>61569403
>are corsair PSUs not good then?
The Corsair AX is really good but also really expensive
Corsair CX are low end PSUs, avoid them
650W would also be fine
What site is this?

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>>61569473
ebuyer.com
i realised my case was ATX and my mobo was mATX so i removed both and i'm taking suggestions.

just case and motherboard now!! getting there.

>>61569403
MSI B350 gaming pro carbon and the Krait are great
You can also get a gigabyte X370 gaming 5 if you want a fancy board and don't mind spending the money, I have one myself and I really like that board
And what Asrock?
The Pro4 is nice, the others are alright

>>61569413
>Also, what's the go to chipset for ryzen, b350?
Yes. B350 is the go to. It supports overclocking and crossfire, but not SLI. Nobody SLI'd anymore so that's fine.
>is this board good?
Yup. I'm personally getting the white version, the Tomahawk Arctic.

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>>61569519
amazing, thanks so much. i heard gigabyte doesn't jive with linux very well and this is gonna be a dual boot so i went with the msi.

the final build:

>>61569467
What res? I use Asus MX239H (23") and MX259H (25") (both 1080p) and they're pretty damn good.

>>61569563
just realised i totally forgot about sound.
does anyone know of a reasonable mid-range sound card with some speakers to finish this build off?

>>61569563
Looks good to me
>>61569579
Depends on the headphones/speakers you want to use

>>61569587
eh, im plugging it into a TV for now so HDMI sound will have to do for the moment.

just about to click BUY, any final advice?? which type of hellman's should i put between the motherboard and the cpu?

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>>61569571
At least 1080p.

>>61569614
What?

>>61569626
hellmans mayo??? which kind, does regular work or should i use low fat

>>61569579
Sound cards are a meme.

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>>61569651

X370 Carbon Pro Y/N?

I want to buy a new gaming monitor, but I'm hesitating if I should go for 1440p 144hz or 1080 240hz. Is 240Hz worth it or is it just to expensive atm? Also is G-Sync worth the extra money.
I am currently looking at this monitor: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-S2417DG-YNY1D-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B01IOO4SGK
Any one have any experience with it?

>>61570071
144 is better, the extra pixels are not worth sacrificing

Sup

I got a new motherboard for my 4460 that has a fuckload of settings (a GA-Z97-HD3) to fiddle with. I noticed as of late that a few select tasks I did under the same exact conditions last year run slightly slower.

I noticed that there are many options for turbo boost, EIST and such. Would it be a terrible idea to disable these?

Can't find the RAM's product code in the qvl but pcpartpicker says it's compatible. Wat do?

>>61570547
pcpartpicker only cares about whether the RAM is DDR4, basically. It does not check the QVL list for the mobo or anything.

>>61570071
There's only a few modern games that can be pushed to 240fps on max settings with current hardware. Better to go for pixels.

40€ for 7 fans. Should I pull the trigger? I probably won't need that much and end giving two or three to a friend since I'll fit them in a phanteks evolv mid tower. I don't remember the exact same model.
http://s.aliexpress.com/yaQFFZnm

if buying these stuff from chink stores are totally avoid, what 120mm fans should I get?

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thanks everyone. im also getting a keyboard and mouse off amazon. can you lot think of anything else I need? I'm hooking it up via hdmi to the 4k tv in my lounge for now

>>61570566
Well that sucks. Thanks for the help.

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>>61570887
couple questions
apparently the armor card is bad and gets really hot. should i be worried about this?

2) why the fuck did i get a ryzen again? £50 more for a 20% performance bump if i'd gotten an intel?? what is it with you guys and your fucking AMD memes i'm gutted and my parts haven't even arrived yet

>>61571252
>2) why the fuck did i get a ryzen again? £50 more for a 20% performance bump if i'd gotten an intel?? what is it with you guys and your fucking AMD memes i'm gutted and my parts haven't even arrived yet
Because you're an idiot for getting 8-core CPU and only using it for single-threaded tasks? Because that's the only scenario where the 7700k is 20% faster and I have bad news for you, you should've just gotten an i3.

>>61571664
it hasn't arrived yet, but that's good to know

Can someone recommend a budget cpu cooler?

>>61571252
>40% faster clock
>20% faster speed
wew Intel sure knows their tech

A Netflix machine for My mom. Browsing photos and Fb, paying bills.

I have a HDD, dvd reader, case and possibly a PSU. There might even Be 1-2Gb Ram somewhere. I have extra keys for Windows 7.

Trying to keep it as cheap as possible. Is integrated graphics good enough or are they completely shit?

>>61572086
I'd just find a used pc off Craigslist. I see the Dell optiplex models on there all the time.

>>61572086
integrated graphics is good even for light gaming like low settings minecraft, mid settings portal/2, lol, ow, and I think a friend was playing some CoD that had zombies with the iGPU from an i5-6400

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>>61571252
Because the 1700 is superior in everything that isn't single threaded
This includes modern vidya

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bZhw2R
Looking to add an ssd to my laptop. Is there much of a difference in write speeds? Are larger ssd's faster/more reliable?
I only need around 200gb of space, but the price/gb is better on the 500gb so it's hard for my autism to justify a smaller one.

>>61572086
Integrated is fine
Just get a pentium G4560 or maybe some APU if you can find a good deal

>>61572157
As a side question, anyone ever use those hdd caddys to turn their disk drive into extra storage? I never use it and seems like a waste to not use the old hdd.

>>61572086
How about this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdMLxY
Cheaper:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxgGbj
Another as cheap as possible build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KhsJCJ

>https://www.nordichardware.se/nyheter/radeon-rx-vega-prislapp-sverige.html
This is a fucking joke right?
Please. Someone tell me this is a fucking joke.

>>61572524
R U M O R S
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S

My computer randomly power cycles. I updated the bios and that solved it for a bit, but it started doing it again.

Thanks in advance.

>>61572758
It better be. I have been waiting for fucking months.

>>61570566
Are there websites that do?

>>61568815
they are, a giant tiny penis truck is going to fare better in a car crash than a smart car or a compact hatchback

>>61571252
couple questions
why are you baiting on a anime imageboard?

why do you suck at it?

Looking to get an i7-7700k with GTX 1060, would the MSI Z270-A be a decent mobo? Should I go for 8 or 16 gb of memory? What sort of cases and PSUs should I be looking at?

>>61572934
other than the manufacturer sites, no

>>61568755
Consider pcpartpicker's ability to set things as already purchased

>>61568541
Is this an OK build?
CPU: AMD Opteron 2431 2.4GHz 6-Core (x2)
Motherboard: TYAN S3992 Dual Socket F AMD Motherboard
RAM: 2 sticks of kingston DDR2 ECC memory (8GB each)
PSU: EVGA 450 BV 450w 80+ Bronze Power Supply
Case: Generic EATX case
HDD: 2TB hard drive I allready have.
GPU: Gtx 550 ti

>>61573075
Is this 2012?

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>>61573035
>i7-7700k
good goyim

>>61573094
No. I'm trying to avoid the intel ME and the AMD PSP by going for old CPUs.

>>61573075
no get a job

>>61573106
What do you suggest, my rabbi?

>>61573113
stop hording child porn then you nonce

>>61573121
that you dont get a quad core in current year

>>61573146
Well that's vague and uninformative

>>61573138
>>61573117
Whats wrong with it?

>>61573154
don't get a quad core simple as that, not my fault you are to retarded to understand that

>>61573154
He's implying you should get a Ryzen 1700, but 1600 is probably the best value.

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>>61573154
Here is a tip....
...RYZEN

>>61573173
>whats wrong with fucking kids
Destiny leave

>>61573188
No whats wrong with my build?

>>61573178
>>61573179
>>61573185
>jews calling jews jews

>>61573259
You are projecting again brian

>>61573202
its old garbage

Thoughts on gigabyte gpus? Newegg is selling an Aorus 1080 for $550 which is on the lower end 1080s and seems like a reasonable price. I've been itching to upgrade for a while now and last time I waited, prices shot back up.

>>61573285
yeah but I think it will still preform well enough. Better than my current old garbage mashine.

I've got a max budget of ~$2100 but would prefer to be under that if possible. My goal is to having something for high end gaming.

I don't have a 4k monitor (Though I could buy one technically) so I'm guessing that the 1080ti would be extreme overkill for me at the moment based on the quick comments in the OP.

I understand that there's GPU price inflation going on right now but it's not to the extent that I'm super willing to delay my build in order for the prices to normalize again.

Based on what people have recently stated I'm guessing I should go with the Ryzen 1700 or 1600?

How much "excess" wattage should my PSU have compared to what pcpartspicker is showing the demand will be?

Also Windows7 vs 10?

>>61573325
I really doubt that. Bulldozer is a steaming pile of shit especially with those clockspeeds.

>>61573341
Will 2 bulldozer CPU preform better than a core 2 quad?

is there a logical increments website for a server build or a guide that's some what more in depth than the one in the sticky? i've been following the budget home office build in pcpartspicker thats basically

Intel Pentium G4600
Apevia X-QTIS-BK MicroATX Mid Tower
8gb ram
probably going to raid two 512 ssds
basic 500w psu and case.

server is going to be for remote access, NFS type stuff at a small business i'm working with.

>>61573179
>>61573185

Why?

>>61573356
LOL NO.
Maybe just bite the bullet and buy something new.
If you are paranoid about your child porn just get encryption, or if you are paranoid about tracking just get VPN.

So what guide did you use when building your PC?

>>61573525
https://www.lego.com/en-us/dimensions/how-to-play

>>61573525
Reading the manual and learning it myself since it was the pre-youtube days.
Now I just tell people to fucking youtube it.

>>61573504
Read this.
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
So two opterons can't out preform a core 2 quad. Well that sucks. At least I can get moar ram.

>>61573356
The only reason you'd get that PC is if it was free. Don't pay money for bulldozer.

>>61573638
Whats so bad about it?

>>61573468
Better value and it isn't on a dead socket, so there's a clearer upgrade path. With fast ram, bios updates, and an overclock the difference between a 7700k and Ryzen are marginal, especially so if you're gaming in higher resolution.
Ryzen is better at everything that isn't single threaded and has better minimum frames, so less stuttering. The extra cores help if you have anything running in the background while gaming too.
1600 is the best value cpu available considering the stock cooler is solid enough for a mild overclock.

>>61568541
Looks like my Puppy

>>61573660
Thank you

>>61573121


Yea, don't listen to the Jewish AMD shill my nig-nog from anotha niglet
>>61573185

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>>61573710
wow i wonder who this could be?

How's the stock cooler that comes with the 7700?

>>61573504
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-AMD-Opteron-2431
???

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2mzTH

Which 1080 variant should I slap in here? Does everything else looks like it makes sense? Is Full tower an overkill meme?

>>61573678
I got the 1600, happy with it. Very cozy with a 3.7 oc on the stock voltage. Unless you're desperate to hit 144fps at 1080 I'd consider Ryzen.

can crossfire passthrough to a VM if you are using a ryzen

>>61573660
>>61573710

I will be playing a lot of space engineers and things like that, I'm willing to spend a bit of extra cash if the i70-7700k is better.

So I have a budget of around ~$1700 for a new PC. I was thinking of going with a Ryzen build; however I noticed that a lot of the microATX boards, and even ATX boards, are having some BIOS issues with recognizing the clock speeds on QVL RAM.

In addition, I heard that the new Nvidia Volta architecture is set to release sometime soon™.

Can any anons share their experience with their AM4 socket mATX boards, and possibly give me some more information on Volta? Should I wait to build?

>>61573570
>So two opterons can't out preform a core 2 quad
They can
Massively

>>61573747
Full tower is nice
And get a better board and 3200Mhz RAM

>>61573872
Any recommendations for board?

>>61573767
Look up benchmarks for the game. If it's reliant on single core performance 7700k will do better, but it's not like Ryzen will be a slouch either.
I personally wouldn't base my cpu purchse on a single game.

>>61573767
Friend can't host a server and play at the same time without massive lags on a i7-4790K thats overclocked. I don't expect any better from 7700K so Ryzen recommend still stands.

>>61573767
I'd go with Intel but, do some research into which one works best with the programs you will be using and if AMD fits the "socket" go with them My brotha

What's a good budget cpu cooler? Cheapest in my country are deepcool brand or the evo 212. I'm getting 50°C on my idle cpu lately.

>>61569317
>Cemu
>Ryzen
Don't bother to play BotW

Okay so call me a mong but the Ryzen 1600x is 3.7 GHz 6 core, and the i7-7700k is 4.2-4.5 GHz 4 core, so which one is faster? or is one faster than the other at single threading and the other is faster at multithreading?

>>61574052
Why? looking at the performance I'm seeing the ryzen chips are doing all right on botw. It's not like it's fully playable with a OC'd 7700k yet

>>61574069

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

Here, a comparison between the 7700k the 1600 and the 7800k. I feel the 7700k is kind of overpriced even more so taking into account the fact that you need a decent mb to OC it.

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Can anyone recommend me a good motherboard and case for this?
Case:
-Glass or partially visible internals
-Form factor not an issue
-Don't Care about LEDs
-Would like to add/do two intake fans and one exhaust fan so that positive case pressure keeps dust out
-Sub 100$


What's a good cpu cooler / where to get the stock AMD cooler if the box says it doesn't come with one?
Is the 1600x any better than the 1600?

r8 my $700 poorfag build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYWs4C

How will it perform on 1080p gaming / Blender? Can I improve it?

>>61574134
>Is the 1600x any better than the 1600?
Not if you overclock the 1600. If you don't plan on overclocking, get the 1600X, but remember it won't come with a fan (only the 1600 does)

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While I'm waiting to find a 1070 that doesn't bankrupt me, is there any way to make a Radeon card change the temperature it starts using the second fan? It waits until 60C by default.

>>61574160
Skip the 1TB drive for now and go 1600

>>61574231
I NEED that drive

>>61573726
shit and so is that cpu

>>61573735
>cpuboss
leave

>>61573030
im not baiting i am genuinely shit at pc stuff
ive never build a pc before

lets hope i dont somehow fry my new 1080ti lol

>>61573890
Gigabyte X370 gaming 5 is really nice with pretty good audio, fancy RGB LEDs, good 6+(2x2) VRM and a shitload of ports

>>61574269
Sounds like you'd already have one available, given your need. You have no drives you can salvage?

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>>61570887
i've since gotten a refund on the 1080ti armor because i heard it was shit and got the msi 1080ti gaming x instead because it's for gaming

Ok I think I'm done

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nNs73F

Does everything look good/logical choices? Am I fucking myself anywhere? Should I buy a 1440p monitor?

My PSU fried itself and my mobo a few days ago forcing me to do a rather budget rebuild.
Here's what I got to get it back up and running.
>EVGA Supernova 750 G2 - $100
>Asus 970 pro gaming/aura - $10
>AMD FX 8350 BE - $80
>XFX Radeon R7 240 - $50

And what's being reused
>12GB Kingston Hyper XFX Blu
>Radeon HD 5450
>Scythe grand kama cross R1
>SanDisk SSD
>2 Samsung enterprise 1TB in RAID

My new PC is here and built and now I'm trying to install Win7 onto it.
Either my Win7 Disc is fucked or my DVD player from my old PC is, either way it won't install.
How do I install win7 from USB?

>>61574549
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool

is an i7-7700k for 260 quid / 340 dollar worth it

What are the reasons for spending more than $100 on a motherboard?

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>GPU prices are still over the roof with bad availability

>>61574483
[spoiler]please respond[/spoiler]

>>61574667
what are you building for?

>>61574708
High end gaming, I don't have a 4k monitor nor the desire to buy one so I was going to stick with the 1080 or the 1080 ti. Maybe do some streaming on the side

>>61574754
1080ti is overkill unless you are doing 4k
unless you plan on doing sli in the future, downgrade the mobo to b350
make sure the ram is on the qvl for whatever mobo you choose

>>61574573
Where should I get a new Win7 ISO from?

>>61574831
Other than that, good to go?

>>61574858
Just rip your current DVD or pirate it.

>>61574863
sure
unless you plan on doing weird shit
just normal windows gaming, it should be fine

>>61574872
yeah but its my current DVD I'm not sure works

>>61573767
buy Ryzen and spend the difference on a better gpu than a 1060, you'll be much happier.

is there no amd graphics card with similar price and performance to the gtx 1080?

>>61574518
Not bad, except for the 240

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Thinking about getting a S29E790C 29" ultrawide. Woot has it for Only $250 refurbished. Anyone have any opinions on ultrawides?

I'm torn between this and the CFG70 27" which is $310 at jet.com

>>61574992
>curved monitor meme

>>61574997
yes

>>61575085
no

>>61574549
>>61574573
While I wait for Win7 to download, am I going to need anything else to get this to work?
I'm on an MSI z270 with an i7 7700k.
I read something about driver issues?

Any 1440 monitor recommendations? Do I still have to worry about heavy frame delay at this price point? I play a lot of fighters so ideally I want something with as little delay as possible

Oh god yes I'm FINALLY getting a z77 for my 2700k.
>buy 2700k system for $120
>does 4.7GHz stock volts but shitty Intel z68 won't hold OC due to overheating VRMs
>don't want to spend $100 on an old, used mobo
Picking up an i5 3570/16GB/750 Ti system with a P8Z77-V for $270

>>61575157

>3570
>over 2700k

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>>61574134
How about the Jonsbo UMX4 with those dual bottom fans? They make in in mITX and µATX too iirc, but that of course migh clash wiht your GPU length.

>>61575254
he's only using the mobo, not the CPU

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this is £922/$1200

destroy me

1080p@60Hz gaymen, high/med settings, >50 FPS is acceptable.
>AMD R5 1400
>1050Ti (mostly because everything else is out of stock or overpriced)
Good enough or what?

>>61575258

>ahaha who needs airflow amirite?

>>61575302

>30 bong soundcard

Nyet.

>No ssd

Nyet.

>1060

Nyet.

>2133mhz ram

Nyet.

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>>61575343
>two bottom intake fans
>two top fans
>one rear fan
sweetie...

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>>61575343
Can you recommend me any specific bits of hardware senpai?

can you crossfire 2 580s one with 4gb vram one with 8gb vram?

>>61575277
Yup. The non-overclocking 3570 is going into the unable-to-handle-an-overclock Intel Z68 and then going out the door while I'm sitting pretty with a 2700k @ 4.7.
GTX 750 Ti will go into a 3770 system I have for sale and I'll jack the price by ~$100.

How reliable is NCIX? I usually purchase parts from Amazon or Newegg but ncix has a CPU cooler I want for 15 less than Amazon and Newegg.

Is there a SINGLE company that can make a non-faulty motherboard?
Gigabyte and ASUS are both on my fucking blacklist for selling me NONFUNCTIONAL motherboards.

>>61574928
GPUs are insane $$ for anything good, yes?
DESU the only reason for that card is because new mobo doesn't have on-board graphics like old mobo and since I got new mobo for $10 I figured I would get something better than a generic $20 Radeon HD XXXX. Good thing I don't game on PC....

>>61575511
In my limited experience they boast slow as fuck shipping and nightmare mode RMAs. I had a bad fan on a case I bought from them and just bought a replacement fan after two full weeks of dicking around with them to no avail.

>>61575512
No.

>>61575258
it's certainly sexy but it looks hard to obtain

>>61575403
Crossfire doesn't give a fuck. You can crossfire their shit cards with their iGPUs. No fucks.

>>61572515
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdMLxY

These are the right parts?

https://www.amazon.de/Ballistix-Sport-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU/dp/B006YG94Y2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501091938&sr=8-4&keywords=Crucial+-+8GB+%282+x+4GB%29+DDR3-1600+Memory


https://www.amazon.de/ASUS-Computer-A68HM-PLUS/dp/B00R0I8Y6C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501091577&sr=8-1&keywords=Asus+-+A68HM-E+Micro+ATX+FM2%2B+Motherboard


https://www.amazon.de/AMD-AD7600YBJABOX-Prozessor/dp/B00LUH1N4O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501091605&sr=8-1&keywords=+%09+AMD+-+A8-7600

What PSU should I get? I just found out that I threw away the old one that I thought I had. Also any Micro-ATX case should be enough?

>>61575343
what's wrong with the 1060?

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Help
Pic related (pic not mine) happened when i was installing cpu.
I kept pushing cpu until it stays in place and heard crunching noise. But i saw on the internet the a crunching sound is normal. So just continued and put cpu cooler. When i tried to run the pc it didn't run and i heard small sparking noises. I disassembled pc and checked every part and saw that the cpu had small black burn marks and the mobo was pic related. Can i fix it or i just threw 240$cpu and 200$ mobo down the drain. If not what should i do(
Btw its my first time

>>61575388

Two bottom intake fans does not airflow make.

>>61575393

An SSD, faster ram, ditch the sound card.

>>61575685

Its not a 480/580.

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>>61575702

>>61575302
Get faster ram and gold/sliver rated psu.
Also why do you need a sound card?

>>61575702

Straighten all the pins and fucking PRAY nothing is fried beyond use. However burn marks probably means its fucked yo.

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>>61575583
Where are you based? There's a German company that imports them under their own name, but not that model. I got myself the UMX1 and they sell the ATX version of that (UMX2) that even has a dvd drive slot. They are a bit easier to obtain than Jonsbo.

Then of course there's always the Fractal Define which comes in all sizes and with or withot window, great quality. Or if you like it compact the Lian Li PC-QXX series, like the Q37 and Q10. However both let you pay for their good quality, expect to be over 100$ easily, especially with tempered glass. mITX mainboards are more expensive as well, so keep that in mind.

>>61575749
If i give it back to the company that i bought it from and told them it came like that. will it work?

>>61575666
https://www.amazon.de/Antec-300-PC-EC-PC-Netzteil-Watt/dp/B00DBE1542/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1501092758&sr=8-5&keywords=antec+vp
This will do

Is windows 7 good for a gaming PC? Whenever I try to update w7, an error pops up saying that my processor is not supported by it, so no updates will be applied. Is there any advantage by using another windows? or can I stick to w7? Also, are updates really necessary for playing games? I tried to play some games, but I receive errors about missing dlls.

>>61575749
If it's smooshed like that he probably ain't fixing it.
CPU could very well be fine. Shorts between the pins wouldn't send any voltage through the CPU. So it would depend on whether the charring is due to shorting between the pins or through the CPU.
Wouldn't hurt to just get a new mobo and try.

>>61575782
No.

>>61575666
This board is better and also cheaper
https://www.amazon.de/Gigabyte-GA-F2A88XM-DS2-Mainboard-micro-ATX-DDR3-Speicher/dp/B00FQ8ARSQ/ref=pd_sbs_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KR30R9QEFGQZBMG4TP6G

>>61575782

If the guy behind the counter is blind and or under the affects of an anesthetic yes, it will work.

>>61575666
>>61575819

Thanks, Do you think the mobo could be switched to a Mini-itx one? or whatever was the smallest one.

>>61575830
Upgrade to 10 you mong. Either do the accessibility trick or just do a fresh install. The installer still accepts Vista/7/8 keys.

>>61575819
>>61575847
>>61575854

Thanks. Would be incredibly nice to get in to fit into this:

https://www.amazon.de/Phoenix-Technologies-PHNXTOEM-Mini-Computergeh%C3%A4use-Barebone/dp/B014FLW2GY/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1501092993&sr=8-16&keywords=micro+itx+geh%C3%A4use

Or anything flat really but the Vesa mount would be perfect.

Opinions on this? I can't find any review.

>>61575575
Fugggggg. Might just play it safe with Amazon and Newegg then.

>>61575911
yeah me neither

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>>61575911
and I fail

ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F

>>61575854
Yes, but those are kind of expensive
I recommend that mATX one >>61575847
If it has to be ITX, go LGA1151
https://www.amazon.de/Intel-Pentium-Prozessor-G4560-Cache/dp/B01N7U18M1/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1501093402&sr=8-2&keywords=pentium
https://www.amazon.de/H110I-Plus-Mainboard-Sockel-Mini-ITX-Speicher/dp/B018SMJJH6/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501093327&sr=1-1
And some DDR4 RAM
More expensive, but also faster

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>>61575933
and I posted a thumbnail, I'll end it all.

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>>61575702
Where the fuck did you read that a crunching sound is normal when putting a CPU in? It should just drop right in with little to no resistance.

>>61575906
This case looks like it would be better
https://www.amazon.de/CiT-MTX-007B-Mini-ITX-Geh%C3%A4use-VESA-Halterung/dp/B00I9XP5L4/ref=pd_sbs_147_6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5HJFWME6SSHB9XFHX48V

how would a rx580 8gb + a rx580 4gb in crossfire compare to a gtx 1080? I cant find a single benchmark vid with this combo

>>61576033
>Two different VRAM capacities in Crossfire
wut

>>61576045
>>61575591 said it would be fine

>>61575979

If we say at most 300€ What could we do with that. I have a 500GB 2.5inch HDD and a Windows 7. I guess I could hook up my own dvd-reader when installing.

https://www.amazon.de/Phoenix-Technologies-PHNXTOEM-Mini-Computergeh%C3%A4use-Barebone/dp/B014FLW2GY/ref=sr_1_50?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501093812&sr=1-50&keywords=mini+itx+case

IF possible but what PSU does even fit there? Or can I have something like a laptop external one?

Haven't done this in a very long time.

>>61576015
Linus tech tips
Tho it was my fault.
He said press the ram until it sticks into place and i thought it was cpu. And saw questions on the internet many times where people were asking if crunching sounds are normal

>>61576163
>>61576021

Thanks man That case seems a lot better. And isn't the PSU Big enough? No idea what a mobo needs but the CPU was 54 W.

Can anyone recommend some good radiator fans (2 140mm fans)? Looking to replace the fans on my Kraken x62 since they are hot trash.

>>61576015
Crunching is normal when you lower the lever on Intel boards.

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I've been on the fence of buying Ryzen for the past month. Newegg (canada) is currently offering this and I was wondering if it's worth getting (i.e. is this the best price). I'm currently using a 4690k, Z97 Krait (cheapo msi), and an 850 evo.
Normal price for the 1800x is $659(CAD), the Taichi is $334, and the 960 evo is $500.

>>61576297
If you save only 20$ The 1800x is just not worth it. Get a 1700 or 1700x if you want high clock speeds tho no big difference

>>61576297
Good motherboard but try and find a bundle with the 1700 instead. You can easily OC the 1700 to 1800x levels and it's 3/4 the price of an 1800x. (1800x doesn't have that much over clocking head room either.) Plus the stock cooler that comes with the 1700 is pretty decent.

SSD, SSD+HDD, or HDD?
Is a 120GB SSD + 1TB USB HDD going to be any good?

>>61576394
SSD and internal HDD.

Biggest SSD you can afford and just throw in a WD blue, they're cheap enough.

>>61576394
ps SSD/HDD hybrids are garbage and not worth it anymore.

>>61576394
If it's for faster system boot than yes. If it's for games and programs then no you need a bigger ssd

>>61576405
Wait why not? You get the speed of an SSD with the capacity of a hard drive at an actually reasonable price.

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Whats a good ~100$ motherboard for the ryzen 1600 and 3000 corsair ram? (16gb)

>>61576435
Anything that has a B350.

>>61576433
Hybrids use the SSD as a cache. You don't actually get the full speed of an ssd.

It's like intel's new optane shit. sure it's better, but you might as well go full on and get an SSD and a separate hard drive for bigger storage.

>>61576458
so i may as well just go with
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3482340
?

>>61568541
Whats the best way to get a non-intel non-AMD CPU thats not a rassberry pi teir CPU. Should I go SPARC or POWER8?

>>61576503
POWER8, probably. POWER9 if you're willing to wait a few more months, since it's supposed to be out this year.

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>>61568541
>Waiting to buy a GPU may be wiser
>Literally the last part I need to upgrade
What sort of price should I be waiting to see for a 1070?
And while I'm asking, any manufacturers I should avoid/go for?

>>61576362
>>61576382
Thanks for the replies. I doesn't seem that there's any combos with the 1700 that are worthwhile right now

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why is vega so expensive?

>>61575140
Nah, I have a z170a pc mate (older than you) and just check your bios (windows 7 installation and mobo usb 3.0 drivers) and you will be fine.

>>61576673
You didn't Wait™

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>>61576652
Depending on the model, $400 to $420-ish.

>>61576673
Isn't it meant to straddle between the 1080 and Titan, or am I just making bullshit up?

When is it appropriate to get a reference style cooler? When you plan on water cooling? On small form factor cases?

>>61576719
it's slightly worse than the 1080 (not ti)

>>61576785
Oh, fucking RIP then.

>>61576696
I gave up, nothing was working.
I went down to FUCKING PCWORLD and bought win10 for £100
At least I won't have to worry about my anti-virus deleting my windows crack again.

>>61576673
J U S T W A I T

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W

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Recently I bought a DVI-D -> DisplayPort cable, passive.
Turns out I was a retard (who spent $12 so who cares it was cheap as hell) who didnt look up active vs passive for DP->DVI-D.
So, I only get 60hz on my 144hz monitor, which is the specific issue I was trying to fix...

That said, am I fucked? I don't have DP on my monitor. It's that Acer one.

>>61576719
I heard that there's going to be a gaming vega card that's about 300$ is that true?

will crossfired graphics cards passthrough for VM when using a ryzen CPU??

>>61576882

To be fair SIGGARAPH is in a week so 7 days to know for realz that vega is shit should be no issue.

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>>61575666
>>61575979

What about
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FXBHBLM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1

with the same old parts

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B006YG94Y2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00I9XP5L4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00LUH1N4O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01F9G414U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1

It would be about 40€ cheaper build. Not sure how old the mobo is since it includes a copy of WinXPpro but it has WiFi and Blutooth.

Really haven't found a laptop I would recommend anyone for the same price, got paranoid after my moms last one that couldn't handle even netflix.

>>61572157
>Bump
Any advice?

>>61572448
i got one recently, works like a charm

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>current PC is experiencing BSODs, random power outtages, massive glitches in rendering basic things like internet, lagging on youtube videos
>cant tell if its mobo, psu, gpu or cpu
should i just upgrade everything?

>>61577347
buy the biggest one you can afford, Samson 850evo and up are the most approved ones but Crucial and WD are fine too. Yes they get faster when they are bigger up to a certain point.
What model is your laptop? Many modern laptops come with a slot for an mSata drive which negates the need to pull out your old hdd.
Keep in mind that the SSD you order might not come with the spacer you need to make it fit correctly into the 2.5" bay.

>>61577007
The board isn't too old, no idea why Windows XP is listed on amazon
This should work fine

is the acer gn246hl suppose to be wobbly or did i set it up wrong?

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>>61577007
Seems like a good 300€ build
Can even do some gaming if your mom feels like playing The Sims 4 or something

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>>61576764
To add onto this, would there be problem if I had 3x120mm pulling air in and 3x140mm pushing air out (2x140 for the radiator and a single 140 in the back)?

>>61577522
If it's power outages I'm guessing it might be the PSU, so try swapping that first.

>>61577522
>random power outtages
Check thermals, Memtest, PSU, and motherboard, in that order.

>>61577007
>>61577575
>>61577731

Thanks, Will it last for more than 2 years tho? No gaming, shes very paranoid about clicking dumb shit too so should be fine on that end too and I will take care of updates etc. If it fits I will put the 500Gb HDD I got in there just because.

>>61578033
Should last pretty long

>>61577879
Just compare the CFM. Size doesn't matter, just how much air they move at once.

Otherwise if you have more exhaust than intake, that air has to come from somewhere and starts pulling in dust through seems in the build. The opposite is also true, however you probably won't reach or go under ambient temps.

>>61578253
Thanks. So I'm definitely going to have a problem with the fans I picked. Should I drop an outtake fan and use 2x140mm fans for intake? (For reference, I'm currently looking at Corsair's ML140 fans and Noctua's NF12s, although I'm waiting on Noctua's consumer chromax line to launch)

>>61570071
honestly? I'd get the 240hz just for cs.

im a fool for my cs.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kx2CXH

How is this?

Thoughts? Critiques? Complaints?

>>61577522
Clean it out first, then do what this anon said:

>>61578006

I was having random freezes and lagging; turns out there was a carpet of dust on the CPU radiator. Whoops.

>>61578672
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kx2CXH
Looks fine, but why not get the R5 1600? You clearly have the budget for it.

>>61578672
get the r51600, it comes with an extremely good stock cooler and would be better in general
you can power a 1440p 60hz monitor easily with a 1070 if you feel like spending a few extra sheckles

>>61578672
the fuck is that ram price lmao

>>61578712
Yeah, i'll change to the 1600x, only $50 more, I can push another 50, and 25 more for a separate cooling unit because the 1600x doesn't have a stock. I will be able to push another $75, I hope.

>>61578742
Yeah, but see, the 1070 with a 1440p monitor is like a GTX 1060 3GB with a 1080p monitor. You get good frames in the 80-90 area, yeah, but what about in 2 years? It just wouldn't last as long as a 1070 and a 1080p monitor. Plus, 1080p is enough for me.

>>61578744
Is this bait or are you actually that stupid? This is probably the price area for 16GBs or DDR4-3000 ram you are going to see. This is cheap compared to the $159 ram you can buy of the same specs.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bcG4f8
How is this? I know that it is showing possible compatibility issues, i'll probably change the motherboard to something similar that will work. Maybe change the cooling unit.

>>61578835
>Yeah, i'll change to the 1600x, only $50 more, I can push another 50, and 25 more for a separate cooling unit because the 1600x doesn't have a stock. I will be able to push another $75, I hope.
I said 1600, not 1600x. I mean, the 1600x obviously isn't a bad buy, there just isn't much reason to get it unless you're worried about not being able to OC all the way to 4.0 GHz. Plus the 1600 comes with a cooler.

>>61568541
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqB3pb
Trying to make a decent audio/video editing/post-production rig.

>>61578882
I know you said the 1600 and not 1600x, but the 1600 is 3.2GHz, even if it has 6 cores, I am not willing to go under 3.5GHz.

And the 212 LED, $27 LED cooler can do so much better than the stock on the 1600.

>>61578922
>I know you said the 1600 and not 1600x, but the 1600 is 3.2GHz, even if it has 6 cores, I am not willing to go under 3.5GHz.
You can OC the 1600 to around 3.7 easily with just the stock cooler.

>>61577570
It's a Toshiba C55, few years old at this point so I don't think it has an m.2 slot. From videos I've seen the current hdd in there already has a spacer, but I'll probably order one with the ssd to be safe.

>>61578894
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RjvxJV

>>61578835
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cw2rxr/team-dark-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tdred416g3000hc16cdc01

You tell me.

>>61578894
This list is pretty good: >>61579050

But I added a monitor and added a black blu-ray drive in this link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TjxJV

someone make a new thread

I still can't get the w7 install to recognize my usb2.0 device in the usb2.0 port and I don't have a ps2 peripheral to use.
Connecting an ethernet cable made 0 difference, though someone said last thread that it would.
I also can't update drivers without an OS, only the bios, which is fully updated. Not sure what to do about this. Maybe I'll just install w10 instead...

>>61579175
for?

Okay, this is hopefully the final form of my list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dq7jVY
Thoughts? Critiques? Complaints?

>>61579222
Sarcastic check.

>>61579221
Just go W10 Enterprise LTSB, easy.

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How are teh Asus mid/low end boards? Specifically pic related
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132964

>>61579283
>X370
>Mid to low end
Boi.

>>61579298
mid/low end as in not costing $300 - $400

>>61579366
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>>61579312
Isn't the top board like $260?

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>>61579371
why do the burgers only get good prices

>>61579050
>>61579115
Case has already been bought. The ASUS drive has double the cache, but it doesn't write BDs, so that's out. I plan to do 4K editing, and I'm not sure if that monitor will work. But I think I'll go with that Toshiba drive, thanks.