/pcbg/ - PC Building General - budget edition

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>>61579366
Thats a awesome toaster. Want one...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dq7jVY

Thoughts?

i want a list with a budget of 650 dollars that has a GTX 1060 6GB.

can someone help me?

How do you guys like to sell your old parts?

>>61579430
>selling your backups
shiggy

>>61579430
usually i just go on the street and put the parts around a random hobo and he gives me a few hundred

>>61579418
Yes, you can.

Stumble through part picker >>61579366 then come back here

>>61579446
A few hundred stabbings?

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>>61579404
>AMD

>>61579435
>keeping a bunch of old crap around "just in case"

If I ever need a "backup" it'll arrive in under 24 hours via Amazon Prime.

>>61579458
nah he gives me hobo credits
i exchange them at the hobo store for general goods

>>61579430
fleabay or local classifieds (craigslist/kijiji)

what two crossfired amd graphics cards would have similar performance to a 1080?

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>>61579485
>spending more money one something you already own

>>61579404
That case comes with two pre-mounted 120mm as rear/top exhausts with room for 2x120/140mm in the front or a similar radiator.

Factor those in. I ended up moving my top exhaust to a front intake.

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>>61579509
>"making do" with that 8800 GT you've been hoarding for a decade

So this is how the poor live... woah...

>>61579485
Look men, we have an Intel fag.

>>61579542
rich people are smart with money though. A trait you obviously lack

>>61579449
I do, but every time I try to do it, it goes over.

I also want DDR4-3000 memory and a Ryzen 5 1500x processor.

Those two factors make it overpriced.

>>61579624
No, jews are smart with money.

You are obviously a jew.

>>61579624
The mantra of the poorfag.

>>61579629
Do you already have a GPU? Build something decent now then drop the 1060 in later.

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ryzen 3 is coming lads, feel it?

>>61579404
Get the vanilla 1600.
Replace your SSD with this one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DM7CmG/western-digital-black-pcie-256gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds256g1x0c

>>61579404
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/6pp7vt/cpu_ryzen_5_1600x_169_228_25_coupon_2989_through/

Too much to explain, but yea.

>>61579654
Some of my friends are considering Ryzen, but don't want the whole upgrade path at once.

An R3 could undercut the price greatly, especially if desktop APUs, and get them an upgrade-proof system.

>>61579624
>rich people are smart with money

this is the biggest poor person meme that exists

yes rich people spend more money than you on literally everything and somehow still have money left over because they are "smart" with their spending

>>61579722
you don't get rich by throwing away your nickles

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814125871

This GPU worth getting? I've been waiting for amazon to ship my other MSI 1070 but it doesn't look like its gonna happen, almost 2 months... Been struggling wanting to upgrade my damn gpu.

>>61579733
You won't ever be rich if you earn nickles, smart spending or not

>>61579764
you don't get rich by throwing $700 at newegg everytime your GPU shits the bed

>>61579404
Go R5 1600 go Asus on the board and a 144hz monitor just pick one.

>>61579770
you keep making moot points

rich people can replace their GPU every month

>>61579502
the r9290x and rx580 seem to be similar when in crossfire
is there a single amd card that's on par with the 1080 in price and performance?

Laptop gets too hot when I compile anything, it's unpleasant. I want to offload all the heavy development-related stuff to a local server.

I'm too lazy to build a PC from scratch, but maybe you can recommend me a powerful pre-built PC with i7 that I can use as a local server?

So if I buy a modern mobo, my DDR3 is trash?

>>61579873
Why does it have to be an i7 for compiling?

I'm debating between building a G4560 build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kPHg7h

and a ryzen 3 build (ryzen 5 is a placeholder):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvktf8

Is there anything I should change? I want to have something to run most games but it doesn't need to be maxed out. I would like to keep it under 600 though

I just bought a ryzen 1600 did I fuck up. People are telling ryzen is a meme now.

>>61579933
Everything is a meme. Intel is a meme, AMD is a meme, building a PC is a meme, buying a pre-built from Best Buy is a meme, etc.

>>61579950
Read the OP.

>>61579867
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>>61579933
your life is a meme you idiot manchild

I wish it was black friday. I need a new monitor.

fyi, jet.com has $40 off electronics that are $250+

>>61579897
Go 2x4GB and try to get a higher RAM frequency

I've /seen/ complaints about asrock and corsair CXMs, but don't know how they hold up

>>61579891
I want speed, obviously. Is there anything faster?

>>61579959
No, wait for vega or buy a gtx1080

>>61579933
Ryzen isn't shit, but it's not near as good as it's been hyped up. It's been shilled so hard here and everywhere else lately. Coffee Lake is probably what you should have waited for.

>>61579986
didnt it benchmark the same as the 1080 but it's a stupid amount of money?

>>61579974
Do you need MOAR CORES or single-threaded performance?

>>61580009
Single thread is more important.

R5 1400 or 1600 for 1080p 60Hz gaymen?
Why didn't anyone reply to me last thread? Did I do wrong?

>>61580040
i think a 1400 would be good enough
i was planing on getting a 1600 for 1440p 75hz

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>>61579366
Listen, incessant Ryzen fanboys, im seeing that the 1700 scores lower than the 1600X in some games, which is because of clock speed i assume. Can i OC any 1700 just as high and have a better CPU in every regard, or do the two more cores hinder OC possibility?

>>61580062
All Ryzen 7s can go to 3.8-4.1 depending on your luck.

>>61580062
Silicon lottery my dude. Odds aren't in your favor for trying to squeeze single core performance out of a MOAR COARS design.

>>61580078
So an 1700 will always be better in every regard than an 1600X, once OCd?

reminder that the rx vega wont cost as much as a 1080ti because sweden is rich and retards are assuming swedish prices will apply internationally

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Is the phanteks enthoo pro m a good case? Or is acrlyic a meme?

>>61580242
>>61579950

>>61580242
Yep that's a case that'll hold all your components, alright.
Seriously though, as long as the thing isn't universally panned as a shitty case then it really just boils down to your personal taste and budget.

>find newegg combo deals with huge discount across 6-7 parts
>always the worst cases ever

>>61580242
I like the NZXT Elite tempered glass case better. But yea, most cases are good. Just be careful on size.

>>61579890
>>61579890
>>61579890

>>61580309
yes. modern mobos use DDR4 standard memory

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>build PC
>everything boots fine, but no OS obviously
>go into BIOS to see if everything is okay
>CPU - 63c
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS NORMAL AND JUST THE BIOS TESTING IT

>>61580290
I originally wanted the nzxt s340 elite but it wouldn't be able to fit my CPU cooler

The graphics card just lowered in price, I'm about to press buy

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2w7J4C

How shit/meme is it?

>>61580367
The BIOS is clearly spyware, uninstall now

>>61580448
fucking 2017 and can't even POST without a bitcoin miner shitting it up

>>61580440
I would get the 1600 non-x and just overclock it.

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>>61580448
but anon all /g/ ever taught me about spyware removal was deleting system32, yet I haven't even installed windows yet

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what's a really good heatsink? i got the money to spare.

Can someone finally answer me if crossfire works in a VM id youre using a ryzen CPU? amd and intel dont use the same type of virtualization.

>>61580548
Anything with poo fans, or something like a Dark Rock3/Dark Rock Pro 3.

>>61580367
someone? anyone? I am not a clever man

Hey guys, I am in the need for a new processor and I'm tied with the AMD FX-8350 and the FX-8370. Is the FX 8370 really worth the little amount of extra money, compared to the 8350?

>>61580579
it's real
amd cpus use mini black holes to suck away heat

>>61580579
Check if thermal paste is properly applied, it's a very bad sign if your temps are that high.

>>61580548
Cryorig r1b ultimate

>>61580597
R Y Z E N
1 6 0 0

>>61580598
>-63

>>61580633
shit>>61580615

Am I a moron for building an amd 8350 build? (Currently have 6300)
I want to run win7 but keep reading ryzen won't let you -- thoughts?

>>61580615
there was plenty that came with the ryzen 5 CPU fan, and it was pretty well spread-out without thinning out too much. not home right now to take a picture

>>61580657
Also 1050ti or save for 1060? (160/290)
Thanks in advance.

>>61580657
Just get 10 Enterprise LTSB

>>61580657
There are workarounds to get windows 7 to work on Ryzen and Kaby Lake.
There are 2 big problems with it.
1: Windows 7 does not include USB drivers for Ryzen/Kaby Lake
2: Even if you get it working, Windows no longer updates the OS if you have Ryzen or Kaby Lake.
There are solutions to both these problems. Someone else will post it though since I'm a Windows 10 bitch

>>61580657
Why run win7? Install gentoo

>>61580633
I think it's a hyphen, not a minus sign.

>>61580628
Trust me, if I could use a Ryzen I wouldn't be here. My motherboard is uncompatible and I don't wanna buy a new one.

>>61580657
run a linux distro then windows 10 in a vm
not sure if you can run 7 in a vm

>>61580725
Time to upgrade grandpa. Hell, I just got on an R5 1600 after being with a Phenom 9750 for years.

Unless you're one of them libreboot guys who intentionally gimp themselves in pursuit of false freedom.

Is the Gigabyte G1 1070's improvements over the first version literally just more fans and LEDs?

>>61580725
You're going to have to upgrade to a new socket sooner or later my dude. It may not be this generation's CPU, but it will happen.

Any difference between 2.5 inch and M2 for SSD if they both use SATA?
Other than form factor obviously.

>>61580784
Cooling

>>61580794
How do you mean? Do SSDs get hot? Which are better?

>>61580843
M.2 usually sit under the gpu

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>>61579401
It's a Universal (that's the brand name) toaster from 1928-1929. Most toasters of the era were like that before the Toastmaster was released in 1926. It looks more like a conventional toaster. The downside is for all it's beauty it doesn't toast both sides nor does it shut off automatically; you can easily turn bread into charcoal if you're not careful. Last I knew there weren't any Universals for sale but when they turn up it's usually about $100-$200 for one.

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>>61580898
wow ty anon!

>>61580707
I was wondering about the lack of updates on my fresh install. Installing Windows 7 wasn't any huge hassle itself though. If I used it for more than games once in a blue moon I might worry.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bWdFf7/gigabyte-ga-ax370-gaming-5-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ax370-gaming-5
is this capable or running 3 graphics cards?

>>61580898
>you can easily turn bread into charcoal if you're not careful.
It was so primitive that it used smoke signals.

>>61581071
I had a new toaster that had that as a legacy feature.

>>61580702
Different anon here. Any trusted place where I can illegally get 10 enterprise LTSB?

>>61581134
>illegally get 10 enterprise LTSB
TPB. Though I don't know why you'd want to get ti there when you can get the ISO from microsoft and use kmspico

>>61580784
Stupid to waste precious m.2 slot on a SATA drive. Unless you don't have 2.5 inch mount.

>>61580898
Wait 100-200$ in late 20's money or today's money?

So I need some help, I've eyed up 8gb of RAM for only 44eu, on a deal, but I'm not really sure if it's any good (Kingston Technology System Specific Memory 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Module 8GB DDR4 2133MHz), I know Ryzen benifits from fast RAM (which this isn't) but I'm most likely not going to buy AMD anyway so what do I need to consider?

>>61581051
cant you faggots give me a hand?

Can a R5 1400 run a GTX 1060 6GB decently in 1080p @ 60 Hz? Is the CPU power enough?

>>61581376
plenty

>>61581472
Thanks. I'm worried about those mins getting lower than 50.

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Is there such a thing as mobos with NO WIFI SUPPORT in 2017? I'm looking at the GA-AB350M and it doesn't say jack shit about wi-fi support

>>61581790
Wifi support as in? Don't come with built in Wifi?

If I can get the i7-7740X for $310 should I do it? How does it compare to the 7700k

>>61581845
As in just ethernet, no support for wireless internet access points

>>61581864
You mean buying a Wifi card and adding it or a dongle? You can do that with almost all mobo

>>61581864
>no support for wireless internet access points
As in no PCIe slot?

>>61581504
here. This should put your mind at ease.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zafqn5i7-cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTsGMQWnxqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdsjhvsS3ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzlYn6GcC28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJYHQbJL7fE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYAKlB2xvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW-16vo-CUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGoyPC5GHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svELJ15PGPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gCLI9EZaaE

>>61580242
I have the enthoo pro m acrylic and love it

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>>61581864
The thing I highlighted in yellow is where you put your wireless card.

Also that mobo has bad reviews. find something better.

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Is a 1060 3gb the best deal for a budget gpu these days?
Anything and is 200 dollars over msrb and the 1050 has a poor price per frame.
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814125902R

>>61581970
no. You want the 1050Ti right now. The 3GB 1060 is trash
wait for prices to finally stabilize

>>61581970
>only $40 below NIB for refurb
Bruh.

>>61581970
Now is a horrible time to buy a GPU or RAM. Wait ^TM

>>61582034
RAM prices are not coming down anytime soon

Hello, new to the PC scene and was wondering if this was a decent budget build. I have a friend selling me a monitor and GTX 970 so those are not included in this price thing. Any tips/help would be cool.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQZTcc

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Was directed to this thread.
Just recently bought this board (AsRock x370 Pro). Does anyone know how well this board is for overclocking on latest Bios rev?
I am afraid to play with it, as I had a Crosshair VI Hero before, that lasted less than 24 hours before it bricked on a mild 4.0ghz OC. That was even on the latest bios for that board.

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>>61582034
>>61582033
>>61581991
My card just broke, so I'm looking for something ~$200. Value is probably the most important thing

>>61582066
also, thank god for Microcenter's warranties.

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Did EVGA fix the acx 3.0 problems with icx? Or am I still going to get a house fire if I get the 1080 ftw2.
Alternatively, which OEM are recommended for optimal cooling and noise.

>>61582060
Shit. Get ryzen 1600, if you can't afford it get the G4600. Get 2 sticks of RAM over 1.

>>61582068
Honestly dude this could be a good time to just do other things than gayman; unless you actually need a computer with a GPU as your main source of income, but then you wouldn't be looking at a 1060.

>>61581851
>>61581851
>>61581851

any opinions on the 7740X?

>>61582117
>G4600
Why get a G4600 over an i3-7100? And by shit.... do you mean just the graphics card and RAM?

>>61582068
I have an R9 290 I'd sell you for $200.
GPU prices have been fucked since early May, but if you keep an eye on deals you might find 1060 6GB for around $225

>>61582179
Cause the i3-7100 is garbage.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3514476

How is this for babby's first desktop?
Giving my Niece a computer for her 10th birthday.

>>61582233
Fair enough.
Any better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qTng7h

>>61582084
they actually went overboard with cooling, check out some reviews on youtube that take apart the heatsink

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What are some good external hard drive? preferably around 5-8 TB

I'm tired of shuffling around files and deleting shows and games I like whenever I want to download something new

Right now I want to download all the old Doctor Who episodes, but I'd have to delete either my Star Trek or my Simpsons collection to make enough room

>>61582262
4600 is like 5 dollars more. Get that instead but otherwise this is fine.

>>61582271
can't you just install another hard drive?

>>61582271
5-8 TB? I think it is time to build your own storage solution anon. A cheap harddrive bay or even an NAS.

>>61582271
>tfw using less than half of my 256GB SSD and have no other storage.

Just delete it all man. Let it go.

Is the 1700x that much worse than the 7700k for high refresh rate gaming? I could really use the extra 4 cores for the FEA simulation and Premiere rendering that I do occasionally, but I don't want to hamstring myself when I upgrade to a 144/165 Hz 1440p monitor (my next major purchase). Would be running a moderate OC either way.

I would really like to wait for the mainstream intel 6-core, but that's unfortunately not an option because I fried my 5820k+board and need a replacement much sooner than that. On the same note, the 6800k is pointless, right? It's like $35 more than the 1700x or 7700k with an equivalent board but would save me from having to change/sell RAM compared to the mainstream platforms (currently have 8x 4GB sticks of 2666 Mhz).

>>61582288
I already got 2TB inside my rig, I just want something I can just dump my shows that I only occasionally watch onto to make room for active use on the internal drives

>>61582262
Bad PSU. This one is better.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

>>61582325
got another then you can have more then one

>>61582280
4600 isn't compatible/doesn't show up on pcpartspicker for some reason for me.

>>61582346
but I want an external one

>>61582066
It's a very good board, how good your processor is will be a bigger factor in your overclocking success though.

The latest BIOS rev should help you get higher RAM speeds.

>>61579366

Are there any clear guides for NAS building? I know the case and drives I want, but the biggest thing I"m curious about is the motherboard. I plan on having 8x8TB drives installed. I've read that the mobo needs to have high capacity PCIe-lanes, and ECC RAM. Are there any recommended mobos that don't cost more than $200 or aren't server grade that are good for NAS?

>>61582373
then just buy a bunch of externals and write whatever shows you have on them

>>61582259
That's a really good deal (I'm a noob tho).

>>61582263
Well sheit. I guess it's a decent option then? It seems like most 1080s are retailing for 550-650 and the ftw2 is sitting in the middle. Thanks for the heads up anon.

If I install windows on a SSD and run it through a VM on a HDD running a linux distro, can I install steam games on the HDD and have windows steam access them? I cant afford a massive SSD to store all my games.

I got the ryzen 5 1600. Is this thermal paste?

>>61582534
Try again.

>>61579366
I'm stuck between an RX 580 and a GTX 1060 for a 1080p60fps gaming build. Can anyone provide some insight as to which one I should pick?

I am aware of Vega coming out soon, but I just want to know for right now.

>>61582553
The 1060 unless you can find a 580 at MSRP

>>61582553
Unless you have power constraints, the 580 is probably a better choice.
Not that you should purchase it, but if it were theoretically at MSRP. Which it isn't.

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>>61582544
Oops. Do I need to buy thermal paste?

>>61582571
No.

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What a great product.

>>61582571
Do you plan to use the stock cooler?

>>61582571
Yes. Clean that shit off and put your own on.

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>>61582380
Well, my 1800x achieved 4.0ghz at 1.365v on the core, on the C6H before it bricked. Still can't fucking believe a simple OC like that bricked that board, what a piece of shit. Also Had my memory at 2666 (32gb G.Skill RJ5)
It should be able to do the same, hopefully.
Headsup: Any one looking into Ryzen, don't buy an Asus Crosshair Hero VI Picrelated.

>>61582564
>>61582565
so 1060 right now, but 580 if/when it comes down to msrp. not gonna be buying for a while so waiting may be an option. thanks!

>>61579366
Motherboard: TYAN S3992 Dual Socket F AMD Motherboard

CPU: 2 AMD Opterons 2427

RAM: 16GB (4X4GB) DDR2 memory RAM PC2-5300 ECC FBDIMM

GPU: Radeon HD 7770 Graphics Card (maybe 2 in crossfire? Allready have one.)

PSU: 500W PSU.

Storage: 1 250GB kingston SDD and 1 one terabyte blue HDD.

For cooling I'm taking fans out of all my prebuilt and I'm planning on zip tying one to the socket f heatsink.

Thoughts?

>>61582588
Yes.
>>61582589
Why? And does the brand matter?

>>61582628
Then just use their pre-applied paste

>>61582628
I personally like EK paste, I usually have good luck getting a nice spread with it across the IHS.

I want to get a good CPU for things like VMs, but I don't need a super good graphics card. I also want to make sure things are compatible with Linux. This is what I put together: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mfpw2R

Does it seem alright? I'm unsure how to judge things like the CPU cooler or how good quality the specific vendors are for everything.

The graphics card I picked out says it has 1 DVI, 3 DisplayPort, and 1 HDMI. Would it work to get 1 HDMI monitor and then use another monitor with the DisplayPort?

Am I going to need to buy thermal paste? Or cables?

>>61582628
The OEM paste tends to be inferior to some quality aftermarket options. And by "inferior", I mean 1-3 Celsius.
Whether you think it's worth the money to buy your own is your call.

>>61582669
7700K is a garbage cpu for anything that's not gaming.
Get a R7 1700 or 1700x.

>>61582673
This. If you have your own paste on hand, just clean that off and apply your own. If you don't, using the OEM paste won't hurt.

>>61582669
What is your use case? Just VMs?
What is your budget?
Yes, you can mix and match monitor connectors.

>>61582733

Not a ton of VMs really, I just want to be able to have one open and not be sluggish. I will probably be doing mostly gaming, but nothing very demanding. I don't think there's a reason for me to spend much above $1000. I've used laptops my whole life so while I want a definite upgrade over my thinkpad, I don't think I need anything serious in the desktop world.

doing my monthly AMA, I'm a reviewer, AMA

>>61582669
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mfpw2R
>Good CPU for VM
Then getting a 4 cores is stupid unless you like both your VM and your own computer to starve CPU-wise. Get a 8 cores R7 1700 instead.

>Am I going to need to buy thermal paste?
Noctua provides thermal paste with their coolers, although not much.

>>61582825
Thoughts on Vega

>>61582837
it's gonna sell incredibly. not quite groundbreaking but in this market literally anything will succeed

>>61582811
Get a Ryzen 1600, maybe 1700 depending on your budget.
Get 16GB of RAM minimum, consider 32 as well.
If you plan to OC get a B350 MB.
Raidmax PSU is crap. This one is better.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

>>61579659
Currently hitting 3.7 on stock cooler easily with the 1600, it's a good chip

>>61582864
>Ask for review thoughts
>Gives me bullshit sales instead
Wew

>>61580367
What CPU?

>>61582320
The 6800k is superior to the 7700k in almost every way, but the price varies from $300 to $800 depending on the country making it an unrealistic recommendation, the motherboards are also more expensive and you only need the bare minimum ones.

Also the ryzen 1700 can match the 7700k in some games, and it's very close in most games right now, the gpu is more important for this.

If you're still unsure watch newer benchmarks comparing all those processors, you have hands.

>>61582699
>>61582836
>>61582878

Thanks! I'll get the Ryzen 1600. Since it comes with a cooler, I won't need to get another one, right? I'm not planning on overclocking. Here's what I have now:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6NBngL

>>61582959
>Raidmax tower
Buy chainmail gloves when dealing with that case unless you like being cut by unmachined steel.

>>61582959
If you plan on never overclocking, you can just get an A320 motherboard, which will be cheaper.
Faster RAM will help as well, you can go up to 3200.

>>61582927
>The 6800k is superior to the 7700k
How so? The 6800k isn't Kaby-Lake so it isn't on 14nm++ (and as such has quite a lot lower clocks), but it's not even Skylake so it's not 14nm either and is it's architectural improvements.

>>61582959
Correct, you won't need a cooler.

>>61583012
>so it's not 14nm either
14nm+*

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>>61582825
Where the fuck the 580s at?
When are they actually going to be in stock?

>>61583053
Ethereum mining.
Nobody knows.

>>61583070
Campaign to ban cryptocurrency when? It would be easier to get soccer moms behind it than it is to get behind soccer moms.

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>>61583012
Because Intel architecture is a fucking joke

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>>61583125
>7700K ahead in all but one SJWfest
>INFERIOR IN EVERY WAY, FUCK INTEL

>tfw waking up tomorrow, grabbing a cup of coffee and watching Ryzen 3 reviews

gonna be comfy boys

>>61583207
damn, didn't know the NDA is lifted tomorrow
what time?

>>61583012
>7700k
Thermal throttling, shutting, deprecated core count, inferior multitasking / multicore perfomance, just 5% faster single core.

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X370 crosshair VI or X370 taichi for 1700

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>>61583321
>$150 vs $250

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>>61583338
haha I wish

>>61583400
Crosshair, if only for the Aurasync lighting. Aurasync's lighting program has the largest compatibility with RGB things on the market.

>>61583258
no idea but R5 reviews were up pretty early in the morning

>>61583407
What if I don't give a damn about RGB lighting?

>>61583418
eeny meany miny mo.

my hdd came in a simple yellow postal packet
it shows up in the bios and such, but it's impossible to quick format it (it always stays RAW)
am I fucked?

>>61583422
alright then. Guess I'll flip a coin

>>61579993
>coffee lake
Fuck off with that house fire trash

>>61583428
don't quick format it. do a full format.

>>61583418
You don't give a damn about Crossfire/SLI either and you're still getting an roughly 40% more expensive ATX board.

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>>61583451
would go mini if it was available

>2560x1440
>freesync
>27"
>screen rotates vertically
>75-144 hz
>not for billionaires ($350 or less)
redpill me on a monitor like this

>>61583525
the menu will be in korean

>>61583321
Take it with a grain of salt.
Had a CH6H last less than 24 hours before it bricked. Never again. Fuck that junky board.
Lots of people have had them brick, very unreliable.

>>61583525
korean menu.
expect quick panel failure if you really push it to 144hz (talking from experience, it was cool while it lasted but, it didn't last long.

Okay, question, I am building a list of parts I should switch out for in my current build. I am going to be doing video editing in Sony Vegas Pro 14 for work soon, and I have an i3-2120 and 8GB ram. Will this be enough to run Sony Vegas Pro 14 well? I am not so worried about rendering things, but I am worried about running the program in general. Most people get crashes and freezes when running the program, will it be speedy and responsive with my CPU? What about video preview and playback, will the playback freeze up and buffer?

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>>61579366
Should I get an X5660?

Can the stock extreme edition heatsink work with it?

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>>61583850
meant this pic

I just finished building my PC what do I do now? I already turned it on and everything works fine.

>>61583915
post pic and specs so we can insult you

>>61583708
wew. I thought Asus made the good, reliable boards

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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems

>built pc
>starts up
>No display
>Did this entire list, it all checks out
>still no display


My motherboard is fucked, huh?

Is there ever a reason to not get a case and use a test bench instead?

>>61581134
Anywhere. Just verify the hash with the known good one (it's not a secret).

>>61584049
dust and airflow are the only practical reasons.

>>61579366
is that a victorian toaster?
it looks like that owuld be the best toast youve ever had

>>61584177
So why isn't test benches more popular?

>>61584217
I read your question wrong/wrote my response wrong. Test benches will have dust and airflow issues. Idealy you want air to flow over VRM heatsinks and the chipset which is something that test benches often fail to do properly

>>61584262
Alright thanks

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What's the best gpu for ~$200?
Recently sold my old gpu to a friend

>>61584037
Post hardware

>>61583413
but where in the morning?

>>61584398
whatever you can find in the back of a bestbuy

>>61584037
If your PC is Ryzen-based, you have to plug the monitor into the GRAPHICS CARD and NOT the motherboard. The motherboard ports are only for CPU's with integrated graphics, which Ryzen doesn't have.

>>61580242
400c Carbide

>>61584398
At msrp, the RX580. Mine was $270 as I had to buy it in a bundle.

the 1060 3GB is about 220-240 but it sucks.
1050ti might be your best option.

>>61584476
That would imply they did step 1 of their link, which is to read the manual.

My mobo manual and even the fucking box my Ryzen came in says the equivalent of "REQUIRES DEDICATED GRAPHICS".

>>61584479
MSRP means nothing now
Every AMD card starts at $400
I think I'm stuck with nvidya

Should I get a 10 series card now or just wait™ for the 11 series?

>>61584724
Just wait™ for prices to become reasonable.

Been a while since i've build one, what are you opinions on these 2 builds, and which one would you pick?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vPs4f8

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2NdVKZ

>>61584763
Unless you're aiming for a strict 144 FPS gaming, I'd go with the Ryzen build.

Why is it so hard to pick out a good liquid cooler, all of them seem to have some sort of draw back that makes me want to consider spending more for a custom loop.
>Pump failure after a couple months
>Terrible online only software that doesn't recognize the cooler
>Misc. pump problems
I would stick with air cooling but my case has limited air flow and might not have the clearance.
Any suggestions for what I should consider? I might just stick with my stock ryzen cooler for a bit longer until something better comes up.

>>61584926
what's wrong with corsair coolers

a lot of us on /g/ use one

>>61584926
>all of them seem to have some sort of draw back that makes me want to consider spending more for a custom loop.
So it begins. Anon's first taste of a custom cooling.

>>61584950
[spoiler]am4 brackets are no longer free[/spoiler]
I've seen some anons here complain about their retired coolers but that might just be a vocal minority? If there's a way I can get an AM4 bracket for free I would consider them again.
>>61584986
I have the cash on hand which is why I'm starting to seriously consider it but I'd rather use that money on a new monitor.

>>61585028
>Have cash to splurge on custom loop
>No cash for AM4 bracket

>>6158502
I just realized that I wasn't logged in so I couldn't apply the promo code lel. guess it still works.
>>61585038
yeah idk, weird logic. Got it from my parents, our family is usually very frugal/stingy but for some luxuries they go all out

when will we get rx vega prices

>>61585079
Custom loops are a probably as close to cocaine as you can get in the PC building hobby.

>>61585089
30th. Prices have been leaked tho. It is really ugly.

>>61585105
>implying that swedish site isnt a meme

>>61585127
They are a official retail site. They have no reason to be leaking fake prices. They have no agenda. No bias. It is not like them leaking prices because Nvidia paid them. Perhaps they got misinformation but they certainly don't benefit from leaking fake prices.

>>61584752
fair enough, but say I was on the fence about buying a 1080ti, should I get one or should I just wait™ for the next generation?

>>61585188
1080ti is the highest end consumer card within a reasonable price at the moment and Vega won't compete with it. Navi is 2019 or late 2018. Volta is early 2018.

>>61585161
dont prices vary by country though? iirc graphics cards in australia cost way more than the us

>>61584950
Is the H100i sufficient if I wanted to try and push my R7 1700 past 1.35 volts? Or should I be looking into a 280mm rad instead.
>>61585092
I might put it off for another year or two so I can spend more time figuring everything out. It's been a while since I've built a PC so a lot of things are new to me again. I like the way hard-piping looks, shame that EKWB only sells kits with clear rubber.

>>61585247
Yes they do. But people are expecting Vega to be significantly cheaper than the 1080 equivalent. This is btw not an aftermarket Vega but a RX vega with a blower. The aftermarket one from AMD board partners will further increase the price.

>>61581347
>give me a hand
I'm not American, so I can't clap for you.
Read the specs of the mobo.

>>61579404
Avoid the gaming pro board

>>61584763
Ryzen
And don't get the supernova NEX, it is garbage

>>61585614
There's nothing wrong with the MSI B350M Gaming Pro.
My only complaint is that it has 4 sata ports and only 2 ram slots, but that's all I have to complain about with it.

>>61585644
The VRM on it kind of suck

>>61585650
still better than anything else at it's price point. And it isn't that bad

>>61585675
Fine for a 1400 or a Ryzen 3
But if you're going to buy a 1600, might as well spend 10$ extra on a better board

>>61585695
agreed, but it's a fantastic budget option

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i3-7350k. it's $120 for #3 highest singlethread rating on cpumark. I already ordered LGA 1151 just have to decide on a cpu. if this doesn't work out I can resell and try again.

relevant tests suggest singlethread performance is still all that matters for RPCS3 and Cemu. also need to be able to run AAAs at 144 in three years. thoughts?

>>61585762
also, is there anything wrong with buying 1x16GB 2133 for $100 now, and getting more later when I have more money?

>>61585762
>RPCS3
8 or at least 6 cores would be best for RPCS3
Just get a Ryzen

>>61585772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av7afTxJLbo
it doesn't work that way

>>61581051
The bottom runs through the chipset meaning that while it is possible to run 3 GPUs, one of them will run through the chipset making the whole endeavour pointless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUYTdgoRA7k

$300 Crossfire X/Dual Graphics build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VnHmTH
Better Red™

>>61585973
>18 dollar case
I too love cutting my hands when handling the case.

>>61585624
what would you recommend instead?

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1) Should I upgrade my SG13 to an Ncase M1? My new i7 is running a LITTLE hot in the SG13 vs the old i5 I had.

2) Is there any argument for waiting 4 years until my next CPU upgrade? I do't think there is, the case should be fine today and 4/5 yrs from now.

3) Any reason not to specify an optical drive slot in the Ncase?

>>61586021
G3 version or good modular Seasonic

>>61586025
just let your fans rev and stop wasting brain cycles on upgrade options. there are hundreds of thousands of viddy games to play and you're here on a mongolian betting forum asking for advice.
>optical
no

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I'm unironically going to use this as my second desktop computer in the bedroom

>>61586087
im going to use your mom for a second in the bedroom

>>61586110
Can't you last any longer? She's an old lady and didn't have such things in a while. She'd enjoy it to last longer

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>>61586087
or better this?

(I was here a few weeks ago with the same question but no conclusion)

Budget: 150
Purpose: Stream videos
Operating System: GNU/Linux or GNU + Linux
Output: Projector (1920x1080)

>>61586147
Unironically, go buy a chromecast and install it if all you want to do is to stream videos.

>>61586158
I'd like to to have a proper operating system because I wrote myself an Android app on which I can select a magnet link from pirate bay, then the phone will SSH into the device and start peerflix with VLC on it

>>61586177
memeberry pi

>>61586177
Raspberry Pi or Arduino then.

>>61586209
>>61586190
the Pi is unable to play 1080p in VLC. I'm using a Pi now and it lags occasionally

>>61586218
Go buy an ARM MP then

>>61586021
What that guy said >>61586048
Seasonic G is cheap-ish and pretty nice

>>61585762
Don't ask about Intel here, we shill AMD

>>61586232
which would be this >>61586087

>>61586292
Why not? I would still prefer chromecasting since it is streaming off your main PC so you won't run into issues in the future like 4k and shit but yeah whatever.

I have no idea what I'm doing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cVw4f8

Give it to me straight lads, how trash is this. I just want to play overwatch.

Budget~$800
Just want to play the new dark souls 2 at 60fps

>>61586333
G4600 is like 5 bucks more. So get that.
All the rest looks fine but you are missing a HHD/SDD.

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>>61579366
How's this for a Ryzen upgrade? I'm currently using a 2500k.
Most people seem to be able to hit the 3200Mhz on the Corsair RAM, but a few say they can only get 2993. Should I spend the extra on the G.Skill stuff?

>>61586414
Looks good
Take a look at this RAM list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

>>61586414
>960 evo meme
you can get 1tb ssd for 30$ more.

>>61579366
for nvme drives is there any reason to consider something other than samsungs offerings? Other drives seem to cost more and offer less performance, is there something that im missing? warranty? write endurance? what gives? why should I look at something like ocz or patriot instead?
genuine question

>>61586147
I had a web book with a Celeron J. It won't do 1080p video smoothly.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/z34LRG
Another ~75 euro. but this has an upgrade path and with a flashed bios will accept kaby later if you decide to go with 4k streaming.

>>61586336
why do you want to buy four PS4s?

>>61586336
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mmCRPs

1300x seems pretty neat
Is it an identical chip to 1200?

>>61587136
at the moment, the difference between the 2 seems to be the base clock, and the turbo clock

I have https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WCqZTH except for the case and the CPU cooler, but the case will arrive soon and I'll get the cooler second-handed from a dude (for 65€, is that fine?).

I will upgrade to a ryzen 7 1700, maybe 2700 or however they are called next year.

So I want to get now a new power supply since my current one is one of these crappy no name ones. I want at least semi-modular. Could someone tell me a good model?

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>>61580242
I really like mine, but like annon said, be mindful of the size.

>>61587922
I'll be getting the silver/white one. Can you add more HDDs than two there? I mean with an adapter or whatever.

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I have my build all decided except the case. Got a white/blue theme going on.
So case wise. Do I get this?

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>>61588113
or this?

>>61587950
Yes, they provide space for 2 on the bottom, 1 space for a ssd up front, 2 ssd at the back, on the front, you can add as many hds as you want, but you'll need to order the brackets from them.

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Considering I'm a britbong, would the cost/slight risks of shipping a video card from the US be better than buying from here?
I'm guessing yes, considering the fucking stupid price differences

>>61587875
Either of these.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182264

>>61588128
This one

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Good day /g/ents
What's the best RAM to go with a Ryzen 1600?
I know that these processors work better with high speed ram, but... 2400mhz is enough?

1- If I'm not going to overclock, and am sticking to stock cooler, would it be better going for the 1500X over the 1400?
2- My current cooler has no AM4 bracket (Be Quiet Pure Rock), so would it be worth it shelling out another $50+ for a cooler, or would it be better sticking to the bundled Wraith? I'm currently waiting for an email response back from their support team about whether or not there is an AM4 bracket for this or not.
3- As someone with an Athlon 860K overclocked to 4.6GHz at >muh housefire voltages, it being 4 (((cores))), should I just be a cheapskate and go for Ryzen 3 1300X? Main uses will be editing stream highlights for a friend (get paid to, so fuck it why not), and some light >muh >>>/v/, so I can't imagine needing a Ryzen 1700 or something like that.
Currently at a fresh slate for a new system, and mainly considering Ryzen since upgrade path and cheaper than an Intel counterpart.

>>61587950
Why not tempered glass while you're at it?
>>61587922
Cute Holo?
>>61588128
Aesthetically I prefer this. But uneven cases are ugly.

>>61589018
Best wolf

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theyre finally starting to go down in prices bro's! in case anyones looking for an 8gb rx 580 heres one that isnt $700, the 4g is also in stock for $320, not the best prices for em (1060 a better value since its 200ish) but ive been seeing them pop up at lower prices here and there.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150803

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>ASUS Radeon RX Vega 64, 8GB, HDMI, DPx3 (RXVEGA64-O8G-LIQUID) retailer listed it at 1155€ without VAT,
>yfw AMD mentioned 300 price difference
it was the other way around

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>>61589328
>€
>VAT

>>61588922
Standard people opt for is 3200.

>>61589643
Not him but I ended up with "officially" rated 3000MHz, is that 200 such a huge difference?

>>61589689
Not really, you can always overclock it too.

>>61589151
Thought it was some Kemono girls for a moment.

Thinking about going with the Ryzen 1700 instead of the i7700k for my first build.

Will I be fucking myself if Intel releases a card with more cores down the line and I don't want to ride with AMD anymore when it comes time to upgrade?

Muh ram is running at 1463Mhz, is there a good guide to fixing this?

>>61590432
DDR3? 4? Is it running in dual channel?

>>61590463
It's ddr4, rated for 3000Mhz. I'm running only a single 8Gb module if that matters

>>61590510
Multiple it by 2.
DDR stands for double data rate.

>>61590605
Vega specs when?

Non-shill here.

At what point will the R3s be competitive against the Pentiums, according to the OP?

R3 reviews are already out guys
$110 for 1200 and $130 for 1300x.
Pretty disappointing.

Which b350 mobo is least likely to give me issues with ram/oc stability?

>>61590754
When they are not priced above 100 dollars or when the pentiums rise above 100 dollars

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n2JwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca300
This or this?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235012

>>61590896
Would you rather have a 5400RPM drive, or a 7200RPM?
5400 = Western Digital
7200 = Toshitba

>>61590944
What are the differences? They have similar prices in muh country.

>>61590754
If they get cheaper, or the Pentium gets more expensive.
They compete with i3s in games, winning some, losing others. In professional apps they tend to do better. They've made the i3 line even more irrelevant.
But for gaming it's not worth the money over the G4560. You pay more for very little extra performance in most games, which was the same story with the i3. Sometimes they do notably better, but sometimes it's even worse than the Pentium, which is cheaper by $30. And the Pentium comes with an iGPU, which at worst can be used as placeholder graphics if you intend to upgrade anyway.
The price goes further up if you if you want B350 to OC the R3.

The best draw for the chip is the upgrade path. You shouldn't be doing rendering on an R3, so I don't see it as much of an advantage.
Pretty meh buys over the G4560 for gaming desu.

>>61590834
Read reviews, update the bios immediately.

>>61590971
Of the two drives you listed? One is 1800RPM faster.
Realistically, if you're getting a larger mechanical drive, you'll probably only be using it for storage rather than anything important. Theoretically, the WD should last longer because of wear and tear. That's only theoretically.
I can't say more than that, I bought into the SSD meme ages ago.
500GB Samsung 960 Evo for work stuff (Photoshop/Vegas files, etc.), 256GB Samsung 850 Pro for OS and some other programs, then a RAID10 setup of 4 Crucial MX300 750GB drives for whatever else (Planning to get some more, but no need yet).
Haven't used mechanical drives in over a year now.

TL;DR the 5400rpm should last longer probably, I'm a faggot that fell for a meme

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Am I good to go?