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Retro thread - Goodbye to MS Paint edition.
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>>61540131
>dat dithering doe
High-colour remake when?
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The creators update gave me 3d paint.
I didn't even ask for it.
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My old Pentium II laptop has XP installed on it atm. It's had a lot of OSes but I'm going back to 98 for DOS game support. Web browsing is pointless because few browsers work without SSE2. K-Meleon works ok, but because of the Gecko rendering engine the user agent comes up as old Mozilla and most websites throw a fit. The WiFi card installs on 98 with drivers, but has no WPA2 support. WPA-PSK version 1 doesn't work with my router. XP's built in wireless support bypasses this problem.
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>>61540550
>Web browsing is pointless because few browsers work without SSE2.
Aren't there pretty up to date Firefox or Opera versions that still render fine?
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speaking of retro, Irfanview supports photoshop plugins. I used to run deep paint as a plugin in irfanview. and photoshop 6.
Back when googling "index of/ photoshop filetype:iso inurl:edu would find you page after page of legit photoshop isos with activation keys sitting on university file servers.
Pretty sure the statute of limitations has run out on that, now.
I just googled a download link for deep paint 2 tho.
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>>61540646
10/10
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I squeezed in a second SCSI hard drive into the external SCSI box I got a while ago.
It isn't meant to support two hard drives, but being they also had a revision of the same box for optical drives, they fit and it has enough power to run them without problems. Just needed to squeeze on another SCSI connector onto the ribbon.

Pic..webm related, copying a file between the two external drives. I love how the indicator came out, both drives still have an activity LED, power led is just a dimmer one behind the activity light.
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I want retro things so bad. Same that it's either cheap and not working or people think something are with thousands since they're older.
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>>61540898
>cheap and not working
Most shit is even expensive when it's listed as not working
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>>61540540
Now you're painting in THREE DIMENSIONS!
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>>61540898
Same. I live in fuckall nowhere so if i want it i have to get it online.
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Bump'n'Dump
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>>61540502
>dithering doe
made me think of that
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>>61540079
Fun trivia.
Bitmap literary refers to a map of pixels.
Each pixel is a bit.
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>>61543432
Kek
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>>61540079
/vr/ told me you guys like PCs
Is that true?
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>>61543978
Duh. PCs are part of the /retro/ spectrum.
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>>61540898

I just picked up an old AT style keyboard, still brand new in the box, for a buck at my local st vinnies.
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>>61544019
PICS!

brb I'll lube up
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>>61543968
boots faster then my main computer
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am... am I retro now /g/?
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>>61543968

The DX2-80 was actually pretty damn rare. Cool webm.
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>>61544026

Gimme a min and ill post...
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There's a newer Retro Computing community up on Matrix now. I don't know if there's been an OP template before but we're more than up for new posters and good discussion.

https://totallysafe.website/#/room/#retrocomputing:matrix.heldscal.la
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>>61544041
DOS ain't that much to boot into, but the CF card does help, between the "Starting MS-DOS..." and the actual prompt, it loads several TSRs and drivers.

>>61544108
Thanks!
...it's just a DX-66 though clocked to 80 MHz. That was a pretty typical overclock for those chips.
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>>61544171
>Retro Computing (IBM, Amiga, PC-98, C64...)
>Each and every old PC OK!

>says Amiga and C64
>then says only PC is ok

looks like it's made by a 19 year old weeb
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so yesterday I stumbled upon an article that named this lovely woman as the author of the windows 3.0 icons (and up to 2000, since they've been left nearly unchanged). she was the icon designer at apple in the 80s.

while most people don't care much, for me this explains the aesthetics of windows 3.1 icons (even in 16 colors!) and the sudden horror of XP icons (and Vista, and 8). for high color, the 95 Plus! icons were pretty good.


I wonder what windows would have been like if she hadn't been around. prob like windows 2.0 lol
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>>61543033
Good ol' twm.
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>>61544209
PC in the quoted instance stands for "Personal Computer", not just the NEC series.
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>>61544246
anyone who isn't 20 years old knows that if it isn't typed out as "personal computer" like on a C64, then PC refers to IBM-PC compatible
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>>61544240
her portrait of steve jobs
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>>61544171
>people are literally talking about reddit
Yeah...no.
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>>61544284
It's spot on though.
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>>61544026

1/2
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>>61544343
Nice!
Take a money shot of those coloured keys!
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>>61544026

2/2
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>>61544284
>gay pride world wide
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>>61544275
You are making way too much of a shorthand meant for a room description dude.
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>>61544371
this is a place for autistic people not normies
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>>61544356

Just for you anon.

I've actually got lots of shit like this. I collect old hardware.
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>>61544463
>Just for you anon.
Thanks love<3
Those buttons tho, remind me so much of the transitional era between the late 90's to mid 00's.

>I collect old hardware.
Don't we all?
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>>61544498

Here's another gem I picked up for $1.50, still packaged.
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>>61544241
Experienced with it?
Any tips?
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>>61544513
Oh, I recognize that pussy stick.
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Anyone need a new motherboard?
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>>61544687
what are all of the socketed chips owo
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>>61544687

I got the RAMS to match!!
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>>61544687
That's a small motherboard....

I'll take the cache chips though

>>61544694
L2 cache
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>>61544687
Are you from the USA?
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>>61544687
>>61544699
Going to do a build?
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>>61544705

>That's a small motherboard...

Hey man, that's a DX-40 you're talking to!
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>>61544687
>>61544699
Now all you need is a CPU socket to solder onto the board, kek
Even though the 386 DX-40 is pretty decent, great for older games, especially with that board and turbo
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>>61544711

Yes

>>61544717

Eventually. I got loads of this stuff. The hard part is finding AT cases. I'm going to be moving soon. Will have a much bigger house/work area for my horde. I'll post when it happens if there's interest.
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>>61544758
>I'll post when it happens if there's interest.
Yes please!
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>>61544758
>Yes
Well fuck me then.
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>>61544790

Why?
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>>61544799
Because I wanted it but I live in yurop. Plus I'm a poorfag.
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>>61544758
Get the smallest AT case possible for it, make a tiny build kek
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>>61544284
Here's the updated version.
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>>61540079
Thread needs more kots
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>>61544687
>>61544699
>>61544705
>>61544711
>>61544717

Some more random old shit.
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>>61545110
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>>61545110
>>61545125
Very noice!

Etherlink III's are worth keeping, one of the few RJ45 cards that work in 8-bit ISA slots and with only 8086/88 instructions.
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>>61545153

I've got a bunch of them. some even with the old BNC connectors. I can't wait til I move so I can actually organize all this shit. Right now I've just got boxes inside of boxes randomly skewn about, no rhyme or reason to any of it.
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>>61545247
Will be fun organizing and going through all of them. Specially with cool shit like that.

>some even with the old BNC connectors.
Those with BNC connectors also have ROM sockets, originally to load BIOS netboot capabilities, but they can load any BIOS extension. Great for things like IDE or HD floppy BIOS extensions on older machines.
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>>61544171
>OP template
pls no, /retro/ is a containment thread not a general
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>>61544240
Lovely
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>>61543968
Oh, I have a 486 right next to me
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Does this count? ok.

>>61543033
I love this

>>61544687
>barrel battery just out of frame
It's exploded ain't it
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MS should make paint open source so people can still update it.
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>>61545943
>Let me get my fully fledged computer and turn it into a terminal because LOL RETRO xD amirite?
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>>61546236
I set this up in 10 minutes as a joke for a screenfetch thread. I don't just use it as a terminal.
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>>61542536
I really was hoping the floppy would have been replaced by one of the supperfloppies (LS-120 or superdisk)
I still don't like the speed or feel of optical disc.
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>>61548160

>That joystick

Baller.
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>>61547685
Aren't the superdisks hybrid optical anyway?
I remember one of my friends had a Compaq that enumerated its 120MB drive in BIOS as "FLOPTICAL", which became my favorite word for a while.
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>>61548160
...we have to go back
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>>61544240
Back in the day when the computing industry was staffed by adults.
As opposed to today.
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>>61540079
>Using paint when there's GNU's Not UNIX Image Manipulation Program
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>>61544742
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>>61544513
I've seen one of those at a Salvation Army once.
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>>61549269
That looks like a board from a VCR. for what purpose?
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>>61549712

It's clock boy. He doesn't need a purpose, just victimization.
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>>61544284
Jesus - it's the original macfag face!
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>>61547685

I still have a NIB SyQuest drive somewhere.
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>>61549920
What is /prog/? Link?
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>>61541397
>kawaiik
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>>61549269
>His Win 10 is pirated
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>>61550133
it's a textboard.
https://freesoftwarefoundation.org
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>>61545581
cute. CUTE!
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>>61545943
>Does this count? ok.
do count
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>>61546201
THIS
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Sup /retro/
Is ASUS A7V133 a good solution for baby's first socket A rig?
Also, what PSU should I get? I heard early athlons were very particular about power supplies.
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>>61551025
It's an okay board.
Just get a modern PSU.
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>>61540550
I renently had to use the internet from an old AthlonXP machine and Palemoon worked fine there.
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>>61544173
>bump 33Mhz bus up to 40Mhz
>PCI video card doesn't like anything but 33 and shits artifacts all over the screen
>VLB video card gives no fucks, benches better than the PCI card
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>>61551379
Gotta love VLB, that one's a VLB machine too.
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>>61544742
>Now all you need is a CPU socket to solder onto the board

They had those upgrades that clipped over top of the soldered QFP CPU and just took over the processing.
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>>61548550
Sort of but not really. They're magnetic but use a laser to guide the heads more precisely.
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>>61545125
Pic related.

>>61551025
They don't have a 12V aux for the CPU and they're pretty high TDP for the time, which is all drawn from the 5V rail. So if your 5V rail is shit you're going to have a bad time.
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>>61551417
I know, always thought about it as a dirty hack though like something you'd find on an Amiga, not that I don't like dirty hacks, I love them.
Those things for x86 machines usually are just a PCB with a reversed socket and another socket for the new CPU, if he had the board socket populated he could just leave out the middleman. Kind of cleaner if you ask me.

Still I love those that socket over the chips, specially on board without any option to upgrade at all.
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>>61544963
k
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>>61544963
fuck cats, faggots
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>>61551721
You're in the wrong thread m8
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Are you ready for extreme 3D performance?!
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>>61551744
Yes
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>>61551721
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>>61551813
>>>/b/s/fur
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>>61551764
How about making it 4000 dollars cheaper?
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>>61551829
thats where you belong.
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>>61551832
I'm okay with that
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>>61551839
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>>61551839
But you see.. you're not dealing with your average voodoo 2 card anymore.
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>>61551870
Didn't we agree we won't post this anymore?
I can't afford another 3 day long erection.
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>>61543033
What's the size of clock window?
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>>61551897
This could be significantly worse, if quantum could get away with their plans of quad carding this one.
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>>61551930
Default, 96x96.
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Bump this party
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>>61551721
>>61551813
the size of your genitalia must be microscopic if you fuck cats
that's sad
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>>61552124
I don't want to know where that Competition Pro is going
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where's Sparky?
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>>61552142
>png on everything
>dial up era
>that gigantic AD
The webmaster of this site is a heartless monster.
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>>61552267
kek
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>>61552377
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>>61544370
kek
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>>61544513
What is that?
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>>61544934
>implying
jobs lives
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>>61552519
underage b&
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>>61552526
yes, as a skeletar
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computer as fuck?
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>>61552553
kek
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Why everything is bloated today?
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>>61553182
We can afford it
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>>61552355
It would probably make for a great emulation box for older systems
though probably too dogshit slow for anything newer then 4th gen
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>>61540079
Windows 7 here, MS Paint isn't going jack diddly anywhere.
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>>61540079
is there any chance it could end up like mpc-hc at least?
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Hey /retro/

What are some old games I can play on my Windows 98 PC?
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>>61553727
Specs? If it has 3D acceleration or a Voodoo card it will broadly wider the spectrum of games that would go great with it.
I'd say, anything from Doom/Wolf3D/ROTT to Duke3D and Quake1/2, with all kinds of (good) shit like Red Alert and Carmageddon in between.

What are your interests?
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Backing up the 10MB MFM drive that came with my Turbo-XT over ethernet with FTP.
Time to use the IDE adapter (seen on the PSU) and put the MFM drive to rest.

Sorry for the mess.
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>>61553758
It's a bog standard off the shelf pre-build with 128MB of RAM. Low end graphics, not sure exactly what.

My interests are mostly sci-fi stuff. I've currently got Star Trek Armada and Age of Empires working well.
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>>61553782
>I've currently got Star Trek Armada and Age of Empires working well.
Good choices.

System Shock is pretty sci-fi and fun.
If there's no 3D acceleration, I'd look more into DOS titles than native Win9x games, even though many will be fine, like Quake 2 with software render.
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>>61553727
>>61553782
That's what's currently on my Win98 machine, it's pretty lackluster and not a definitive list, but it might give you a few ideas.
But I also have a GeForce and Voodoo card in mine.
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Is it possible to play online on retro rig today?
Do I need some additional software to play on modern UT/TFC/HLDM servers?
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>>61553860
Modern games that where popular online already have patches or source ports for newer systems to continue doing that.

Else TCP/IP games still play like the would back then, someone just has to host the server.
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Is it possible to play online on retro rig today?
Do I need some additional software to play on modern UT/TFC/HLDM servers?
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>>61553860
>>61554052
Are you okay?
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>>61552519
A PS/2 dildo
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Is pic related worth buying? I really want one, but the nearest one is on the other part of town, and the second one the fucks know where (and yellowed as).
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>>61554739
I don't know, kinda personal question.
Do you like it? Do you need it or at least want it? Then yes, go for it.
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>>61553727

X-Com.
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>>61554739
Its a basic ATX case (the mounting panel on mine has EATX holes but you would need to remove the riveted in drive cage to use them) that is simple and beige. If you want a generic beige case then go for it.
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Which of these two cases is the best? I can't keep both
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>>61555310
The bigger and less gunge covered probably.
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>>61555310
Bigger one is sexier, even if you'd clean the smaller one.
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>>61555310
>Which of these two cases is the best? I can't keep both
Keep them both
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>>61554747
Thanks anon.
Yup, shit is actually quite nostalgic for me. And the whole case just looks so sleek.
>>61555256
I want an aesthetically pleasing, easy to work with, simple beige case. Sure, some late 90s Antec stuff would be fucking nice, but in my country they are almost nonexistent.
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>>61553782
Can't go wrong with roller coaster tycoon, that will run on anything that shipped with Windows 98.
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>>61555625
>Can't go wrong
Oh boy are you mistaken
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>>61555310
I'd prefer the smaller one. It's dirtier but that only requires a little cleaning and it's good after that. The big one on the other hand is gonna need retrobrite. It also has no Win98 sticker, so it's a no-brainer.
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>>61555717
>The big one on the other hand is gonna need retrobrite.
No, only if he decides to keep the same drive bay covers.
Rest of the actual case is identical in yellowing on both machines.
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>>61544391
This place is for retro computers. Not necessarily autism.
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>>61555860
That shit is so familiar to me...
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>>61555310

I'd keep the TIME one just for the logo.
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>>61555717
>>61556113
A broken Win98 logo instead of a P/MMX?
What is this faggotry.
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>>61555310
if you keep the big one, try to put an AMD in there
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>>61548160
I had the exact diskette case anon....
I didn't ask for this feels
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>>61553844
>those toolbars
just the essential operations
> back, forward, up, cut, copy, paste, delete, undo
do you really need a long-winded sidebar asking you if you want to perform such or such operation on such or such file?

windows 2000 made a critical mistake. by default they replaced the copy button with "copy to" which requires you to do 100 clicks to pick the destination folder. easy to customize, but not for a newbie.

>Interface Does Mattersâ„¢
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>>61556309
I'd also like to interject that tiles view was an abomination
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>>61556309
I know, fucking retarded.
At least I do like the new design that has been popular with all file manager interfaces, with devices and folders being on the sidebar.
Reminds me of the older Explorer view with folder tree in the sidebar.
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>>61556293
I have the same one but with two rows of 3.5" floppies side to side.

It's right next to me.
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>>61556330
i thought it looked cool when XP was brand new, and i was 12
but it didn't take long for me to switch back to details view
while tiles were at least like a more useful icons view, it still wasn't nearly as space-efficient as details view
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>>61553727
>What are some old games I can play on my Windows 98 PC?

Unreal, Unreal Tournament, UT2004, Age of Empires 1/2, Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (the first one needs a patch), Quake 1/2/3, Doom, Blood/Duke/Shadow Warrior,

>>61554739
I want one so bad for my desired Ryzen/Kaby Lake build. Unfortunately I no longer have a beige monitor. I have a white Sony LCD though.

>>61556309
The 95/NT 4 interface with the basic toolbar was the best.
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>>61557043
Unless he has 3D acceleration or a glide card, half of those games are going to play and look like shit.
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What are the must have DOS apps in 2017?
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>>61557125
debug
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anyone else ever had a PS/2 that absolutely refuses to remember configuration data?

just replaced the RTC on this piece of shit with a known compatible part that should be working, but it still throws a 161/163 even after running the auto-configuration from the refdisk, which I re-wrote two fucking times on two different systems

none of my other MCA PS/2s behave this way, both my L40SX and 70 will work fine even on flat batteries as long as you configure them at every boot, this one won't even hold the configuration with the power on

??? I really hope I'm just retarded
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>>61557125>
>dos.exe
is that a custom build of dosbox or what?
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>>61557399
Maybe it's offended and doesn't want to play nice?


Might be that the compatible part isn't compatible after all or the problem is somewhere else, physical damage?
Also dunno about you being retarded, might be.
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>>61557557
board's dusty but seems pretty pristine, nothing weird looking and it seems like some catastrophic chipset/IC failure would fuck the system far harder in the ass

booted the system with all the shit disconnected like this and it forced the refdisk to drop out of auto-configuration, diagnostics said I was running 64 MB of RAM for some reason, maybe it's part of the problem?
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>>61551411

Jazz Motherfucking Jackrabbit. Fuck yeah.
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>>61557710
Looks all fine and tandy, even the caps look fine.
How much RAM is it supposed to have?

The Dallas RTC is the one you replaced? Sure it's 100% supported? Maybe it has a larger CMOS or something that it doesn't like.
IIRC was there a way to wipe the CMOS by shorting out some pin on the RTC? Maybe it's storing something it can't wipe with software.

I have no fucking clue to be honest, I usually just replace the battery on the RTC, it isn't much work at all, the one right now is going to die one day anyways and might need to be replaced again, try finding a new one then, better just have the original and and option for a battery or supercap.
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>>61557113
Unreal/UT99 look okay with software renderer. Nothing's wrong with 320x240. (I have to 50% scale to run Overwatch on my modern 1366x768 laptop). Quake 1/2 are fine in software mode. Really only Quake 3 requires a 3D card, but UT2004's software render is garbage and will probably need a fairly good early 2000s D3D card. (ran on low with my P4 integrated graphics)
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>>61557805
right now it's got 4 MB in it, normally has 6

the 12887 is definitely a compatible replacement for the 1287, and I think it's fine, after fucking around trying to set up various settings manually with the refdisk it totally forgets anything you set almost immediately, as if it never set it at all

gonna try the original 1287 in it again to see if the same shit happens
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>>61557886
Well, thing is those games he probably can play looking great without an emulator on a modern system.
No real need to have a computer to play Unreal in software renderer at 320x240.

Games like Quake 1 and other DOS games will probably be of more interest on such a system.
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>>61557904
that didn't work either, still defaults to the same fucking date... except the time sticks at 8:00:01 and sometimes jumps to 8:00:02 when I fuck with it

this confuses me and I hate it IBM was a mistake
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>>61557979
>IBM was a mistake
TAKE THAT BACK
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>>61557944
That's a good point, but if I have enough HDD space I will install those games anyway. The build engine games are great if you can run them.
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>>61558020
>That's a good point, but if I have enough HDD space I will install those games anyway.
No harm in that.

>The build engine games are great if you can run them.
THIS, if it's a Win98 machine it should have no problems.
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>>61558838
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>>61556382
>>61556293
I personally still have two of them, and you can read on the picture that there are Win3.1 installation diskettes among other installation diskettes
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>>61540550
are you fucking stupid, there are targeted builds for SSE "1"

palemoon has one for example.

buy an usb wifi dongle or an ethernet cable and do a bridge with the router
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>>61544463
I tend to take those buttons off on my keyboards.
They are waaay too easy to accidentally press.
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>>61558905
I also still have ye olde 5¼" diskettes, about half of them are still readable with my 486 (this one >>61545581)
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>>61558993
They are defined by software though.
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Here's my IBM ps/, it supports 386 protected mode so I'll probably screw around with that once I'm done self studying the 386 itself

>>61540485

I dig that kb
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>>61559131

*PS/1

Autocorrect didn't like that for some reason
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>>61543507
That's pretty obvious.
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>>61559131
>>61559234
cute/10
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You know what will always say "retro" to me?

Those tiling "marble-effect" wallpapers, for the desktop and for websites.
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>>61551025
Good times. I remember that trick fondly
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>>61552486
Quake 3 arena on a G3 Mac was the shit
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>>61553379
Not sure. I had reasonable success emulating the PlayStation on a P200 (with Bleem!).
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>>61559557
The fuckers started putting a gap between the contacts. Thankfully superglue was there for us.
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>>61540485
Load "*",8,1 Return
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>>61559702
Your memory serves you well
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>>61559655
Keyword is "reasonable" here, your right.
I actually doubt that CPU is much faster.
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>>61559545
>Those tiling "marble-effect" wallpapers, for the desktop and for websites.

Absaluttly dizgosting.
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>>61559873
I didn't say they were good.
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>>61559645
There was a huge discussion if it's a beige case for a PC or a G3 Mac.
Some people posted really reasonably identical cases for PCs.

But anyone with a brain can see the Power button on the keyboard only Macs had.
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>>61557125
>4DOS
https://www.4dos.info/v4dos.htm#751
>Volkov Commander
https://vvv.kiev.ua/download/, get the so-called "alpha"
>Borland Pascal
https://winworldpc.com/product/borland-pascal/7x
>MATLAB
http://nostalgy.net.ru/nauka/matlab.zip
>HIEW
http://www.hiew.ru/files/hiew650dosfree.zip
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What is your favorite development environment for old Windows (3.x, 9x or NT)?
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>>61559545

Like this?
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Posting some guts.
Also, the case is te royal pain in the arse to work with.
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>>61559939
it's not a G3 either though, more of a power mac 8100/8500 or quadra 800/840 with extra buttons on the top
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Would you guys like a video about the desktop beige G3 I have in storage?
(You can see it in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa-DlLAcrjg btw)
Sorry if this is spam.
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>>61559689
I can't be the only nigger who actually used solder.
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>>61559702
>>61559797
More like Commodore + run/stop because fastload cart is love.
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>>61560291
Re-ink your ribbon, you barbarian.
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>>61553015
>>>/out/
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>>61560791
It was just a bit dry. Sprayed some WD-40 on it and it works wonderfully now.
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>>61557043
You could get Doom 3 or NFS:MW working if you have KernelEx. I've also seen someone running the The Sims 3 installer under KernelEx (not sure if the game worked or not, the uploader of the video didn't say anything about it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KMpxTOFqjM
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>>61559545
Made this in gimp recently.
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>>61560089
I colored it in paint back on Win95 or was it 3.11...?
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>>61560957
Nice. That's a pretty convincing simulation of watercolor.
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>>61553015

I wish I could just take one of them home..
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>ms paint is going away
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>>61561647

I see this mentioned everywhere. What are they going to replace it with? Paint is one of the first programs I liked on Windows.
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>>61561792
Some gimmicky "Paint 3D" thing
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>>61561647
>>61561792
Does ReactOS have an accurate FLOSS Paint clone?
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>>61561792
No, Paint isn't going anywhere. In the update notes for the new Win10 update Paint was marked as "deprecated" and all the tech bloggers put up a billion clickbait articles about it. In reality they're just moving it to the Windows Store like they did with most classic Windows programs already, like calculator.
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>>61562167

Ah I see what's going on. They are preparing to release a free version of Windows where you have to buy all the features from the Windows store.
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>>61562167
>move basic functions such as the calculator to the store
>installer images keep getting bigger
Really bloats my code
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>>61544284
looks like big head from silicon valley desu
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>>61562224
Windows 10's calc.exe is 5x smaller than 7's
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>>61552486
>90s
>PC gaming was extremely niche, yet there were tons of titles made on PCs that were extremely popular and were inevitably ported to consoles (often in compromised form)

>now
>PC gaming is much more mainstream, yet most PC games are console ports, sometimes PC doesn't even get games

Can someone explain this to me? Why did PC gaming seem so much more exclusive and unique when it was a niche platform, but as it became mainstream it became just a glorified console?
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>>61562602
I didn't really grow up in that era, but, AFAIK, shit was expensive back in the day (even low end hardware was expensive as well).
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>>61562602

I don't see it that way all. Nowadays it's getting rarer to even own a desktop.
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>>61562698
As a portion of total PC owners, yes, but I'd bet there's a larger absolute number of gaming-capable desktop owners today than in 1999, in addition to the gaming laptop meme.
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>>61562602
>most PC games are console ports
No, most are mobile cross-plats.
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>>61540079
the PS/2 may be fucked beyond repair but at least my shitbox habit enabler had something cute and special for me
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>>61563291
didn't mean to quote OP
here's a PDP-10 from the LCM
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>>61540500
all you need is a period wireless phone.
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>>61559234
shouldn't that paperwall be tiled?
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Fresh OC
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>>61540550
AYY ARMADA BRO
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>>61544240
Yeah, Susan Kare.

And the icons in xp weren't really terrible, just too much too suddenly. They were done by the iconfactory and were ok, just not great. Obviously chosen by committee after several submissions.

Icon art took a hit in general as soon as resutlion went up. 32x32 is about the the best constraint there was, and amazingly great icons happened in that format. We're only just now rebounding (macOS has finally had nice folders for only a few versions, and many of its other icons are trash...windows folders are still garbage and hopefully get better).
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>>61563728

Looking good. I need to check my old laptops if they're still in working condition.
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>>61563998
I love this one
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>>61563780

I think the biggest problem with icons these days is inconsistency. The new Windows 10 icons are trash though, some of them don't even have colour, making it hard to find what you're looking for. Humans have colour vision for a reason.
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Looky what I found. This picture is from 2015, when I used to carry around a Satellite 4000CDS as my main laptop. I even took it on vacation.
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>>61563780
>not liking the pre Leopard icons
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>>61564118
And another one
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>>61564159
Lovely.
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>>61564118
>>61564167
How do you Internet from it?
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>>61564184
PCMCIA wireless card.
I have a couple videos about the whole setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-FQMGlGJyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c5GKiz8ZFg&t=2s
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>>61560291
watch those JAPYS!
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>>61562167
No, it's also being replace by Paint 3D
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Before this thread dies, could anyone tell me what this is? The chips are EPROM chips: http://ee-classes.usc.edu/ee459/library/datasheets/am27c256.pdf
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in the closet, also have 3 octane, 1 indy.
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>>61565763
A DRM dongle? That's really all I can think of.
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Just picked these up today from my old grandparents house. Going to see if it still works/get it to work.
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>>61565763
looks like a cartridge for some kind of Fujitsu or other system, probably the operating system ROMs or something of the like to allow for easy swapping for an upgrade or OS change or whatever else, I've seen some systems with this kind of feature
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>>61566464
that'll clean up real nice
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I found this old industrial control panel keyboard and trackball recently. It has magnetic reed key switches.

I'm gonna look into what it would take to make it a standalone keyboard.
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>>61540898
I've bought 3 model M's off of fleabay, only one hasn't had a problem.
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>>61554430

Sauce?
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>>61552519
>>61566851

Cuecat. Obscure hardware if you ask me, I don't think they were ever sold where I live.
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>>61563522

I don't like it that way
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>>61566541
The keyboard (pretty sure it's mechanical)
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>>61564203
have you looked into using a zram-based swap to help extend your ram?
i would imagine lz4 compression would be considerably faster than disk swapping on that machine
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>pop in a new backup battery and fresh AAs, hook it up to the wall
>doesn't turn on (says it was dead in the listing but worth a try)
>fuck I guess I'll have to open it up
>spend 2 agonizing hours trying to figure out if there are hidden screws at the front, turns out the tabs are just retarded
>everything looks fine
>spend another hour trying to get the same fucking front tabs to snap back in place
>press the power button for the fuck of it
>it turns on
>????
>realize it just has one of those retarded latches in the ROM access door that isn't being depressed fully
>coat it with tape and screw it shut again
>tfw finally have a CE palmtop
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>>61541397
what the fuck is this my dream os?
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>>61541397
caveat

needs haiku features like tree style task manager and windowtabs

then it'll be my dream ui
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>have this perfectly working ibm 390x laptop
>tfw the hinges are broken

I should probably just use an external monitor with this one, or does anyone else have better ideas?
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>>61568732
behead it completely and use it as a compact bridge box with character

if only there was a good way to cover up the gaping holes where the hinges were
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>>61551839
3dfx dumped the datasheets for their shit right before they were eaten up. Which is cool a.f.

if I ever crawl far enough out of the pit of ignorance to write kernel shit I want to make a driver for one.
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>>61568732
Hinges show up on eBay often.
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>>61568799
>>61568841

I think going headless for now is good. The plastic around the hinges is very damaged so I'm not sure if replacements would do any good. If I removed the display I could perhaps cover the holes with some black tape. Also, it has these cute feet I never noticed, like on keyboards.
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>>61564167
>>61564203
Comfy vids, lainon.
I also got an IBM shitbox too actually, but for 3 euros more than you (20nzd), it has a Core 2 Duo though.
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>>61569027
wait, lenovo shitbox.
my bad.
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>>61540079
where can i find old shit

i go on craigslist hoping to find dead grandma sellofs but it's just losers trying to sell their 2004 dell for $300.
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>>61557496
bumping question
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How do you set window size with keyboard?
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