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Is Bill Gates /our guy/? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhd

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Is Bill Gates /our guy/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhdDZk45HDI
>autisms out over the definition of the word "java" for 20 minutes
>even manages to piss off the lawyer questioning him

>>Mr. Gates, you know
>>perfectly well that you and lots of other people
>>within Microsoft describe Java, J-a-v-a, without
>>talking about runtimes or EJBs or server middleware,
>>but Java, J-a-v-a, as a competitive threat. You know
>>that, don't you?
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>>61500379
People keep bringing up this video as some kind of proof that Bill Gates is a secret sperglord or something. Its a fucking deposition, he's being questioned by the enemy. This is a tactic to frustrate the opponents council.
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>>61500490
>rocking on the chair
>not autistic
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>>61500379
bill gates has always been, secretly, /our /guy. we just don't like to admit it publicly because to do so is admitting that publicly that we are assholes like gats.
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>>61500506
DId you even watch the whole thing? He's being intentionally obtuse. The entire thing is an act.
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>>61500506
It's called being nervous as shit because you're the CEO and your company is getting big dicked by the feds, how can you not know that feel?
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>>61500536
Rocking on the chair is an act?
>>61500549
He doesn't look nervous.
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>>61500549
>how can you not know that feel?
Because I'm not the CEO of a company being dicked by the feds for being a monopoly
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>>61500490
>secret sperglord

This might be the biggest oxymoron you retards have ever come up with.
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>>61500379
his parents were lawyers
he was prepared
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>>61500626
I can't even imagine the kind of prep he had for this deposition. It's kind of awesome.
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clearly acting like a lawyer.
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>>61500606
You learn to hide it when you're a CEO

>>61500618
Maybe you should try it sometime
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>>61500685
My goal in life is to be in a situation where I'm a CEO so powerful that the Feds have to dick me personally.
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>>61500490
it's beautiful. i love it when i see things like this.

>yfw some lawyer working for your company comes and asks you to take a 160 page document, convert it to comic sans, convert it to a pdf, screenshot the pdf and turn it into a jpg, and then print the jpg horizontally so it takes like 3 pages of A4 paper just to go through a single page, and then manually number the pages with a convoluted numbering scheme (like, page 1 of the actual document is broken into 3 parts, so you have 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, then 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, and then it changes to reverse numbering ie 3-21 when it's actually 21-3 every time a new section comes up), and then jumble the pages up and "lose" three or four of them
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>>61500714
just do what everyone else does and pay the politicians to remove (or institute) regulations that hinder your business.

>>61500768
reminded me of lavabit printing out their encryption key to give to the Feds.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131002/17443624734/lavabit-tried-giving-feds-its-ssl-key-11-pages-4-point-type-feds-complained-that-it-was-illegible.shtml
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>>61500379
I love how 31 minutes in the guy's voice changes as he realizes he's being completely out-gunned in his ability to ask vague but legally binding questions by Gates' inexhaustible ability to quibble over not just jargon, but marketing terms and just various verbs in general.
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Java, is in fact the Java Runtime Environment, or as I have taken to calling it, Java the language plus libraries, plus a little kinda virtual machine sorta.
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>>61500379
Bill Gates is GOD
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>>61500490
C-can you expand on the definition of "council"?
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>>61502078
>Athens running Linux
This is most of /g/'s wet dream.
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>>61501876
>Lawyer: Haven't you seen stamps like that on every single one of the documents that you've been shown during this deposition?

>BG: Can you get me all the exhibits?

>Lawyer: You see this stamp...

>BG: Is that a stamp? To me that's not a stamp.

>Lawyer: ...Let me go back to the email...

Oh god I love Gates now.
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Can someone explain to me what the fuck is a deposition?
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>>61502284
>In the law of the United States, a deposition is the out-of-court oral testimony of a witness that is reduced to writing for later use in court or for discovery purposes. It is commonly used in litigation in the United States and Canada, where it is called examination for discovery, and is almost always conducted outside of court by the lawyers themselves (that is, the judge is not present to supervise the examination). In other countries, testimony is usually preserved for future use by way of live testimony in the courtroom, or by way of written affidavit.
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>>61502284
In the law of the United States, a deposition is the out-of-court oral testimony of a witness that is reduced to writing for later use in court or for discovery purposes. It is commonly used in litigation in the United States and Canada, where it is called examination for discovery, and is almost always conducted outside of court by the lawyers themselves (that is, the judge is not present to supervise the examination).

Depositions are a part of the discovery process in which litigants gather information in preparation for trial.
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What were the stakes here? What would have happened if he fucked up and said incriminating stuff?
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>>61500379
Jesus fucking christ, bill gates is very good at avoiding tricky shit, no wonder why microsoft got they power on the 90s
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He drinks Pepsi so he's /myguy/ as far as I'm concerned.
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>>61502339
The fed would have fucked them in the ass so hard they wouldn't dare put the spyware bullshit they have in Windows 10 today.
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>>61502347
he's very good at understanding the intention behind the questions that's been asked. i mean, he DID develop a software monopoly, so he's clearly fairly smart.
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>dat stretch at 13:13
kek
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>>61502397
>could the court spare a fuck? I seem to be fresh out.
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>not doing exactly what the 30 lawyers you retain tell you to do
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I wish I get successful enough to be deposed for antitrust violations. That seems like a neat experience.
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>>61502435
At that point you don't even really need a chair or desk, you sit on your massive balls and balance your notes on your giant throbbing erection.
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Around 14:20:
>Did you receive this email on or about February 13, 1998?
I don't know.
>Do you have any reason to doubt that you received a copy of this email?
No.

I respect both Gates' stonewalling and the lawyer's determination to draw blood from a stone.
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>>61502078
hahah
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>>61501876

what you dont understand is that Bill Gates isnt being obstructive for no reason.
the lawyer wants him to admit that java is a competitive threat to microsoft.
You could be lenient and say "oh yeah, i know what you mean. Java as in: in general."
But when a lawyer is attacking you, you cant just let this go. It's important to clarify that these different components actually are different.
The lawyer is trying to catch him in some idiotic language mixup and make some conversation where Bill Gates used 'java' colloquially as the language runtime as proof that Bill Gates thinks "java" as a whole is a competitive threat.
Well you cant just let that kind of shit fly. There *is* a difference and if the lawyer wants to prove that Bill Gates thinks java as a whole is regarded as a compettitive threat by Microsoft then he cant very well expect Bill Gates to be dumb enough to admit that he colloquially uses the term the wrong way and "kinda" thinks java as a whole is a threat.
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>>61502435
Funny how Google has never been involved in one of those.
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He throws some poor motherfucker under the bus around 51:00 in a pretty brutal way.
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>>61502196
he probably means counsel
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He's goddamn right. You can't just say "java". Java could mean many different things in different contexts. I don't see any evidence of "autism" or sperging out here.
Plus, the nature of the deposition requires him to be so damn particular.
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>>61500379

WOW I love this, true alpha male display. Complete control of your mental faculties. Not a hint of being worried whatsoever about the enemy.
LOVE IT.
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>>61500379
>>autisms out over the definition of the word "java" for 20 minutes
>>even manages to piss off the lawyer questioning him

in this context it's because he's being asked vague legally binding questions which may lead to him incriminating himself if he doesn't answer in overly explicit terms which is why he frequently mentions that it could be the case that he used the shorthand term java to refer to his competition but that in those contexts he would have been using it in company who understood whether he meant the language, the runtime, awt, jwc, etc, and that he can't recall such a case although it would be possible, which is why he would need to see an example of such a case so he could clarify the context, this may make gates autistic but in this context his actions are justified in a legal setting and we'd need to see further examples within context to answer that
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>>61502538
Listen to the counsel of your council of counsels.
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>>61500379
>Is Bill Gates /our guy/?

he would be if his incessant requirement to snuff out competition didn't also mean that gnu/linux was in the firing line
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>>61502538
And what exactly do you mean, when you refer to counsel?
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Gates is stonecold. You don't get to rip off the biggest companies in the world like ibm and Xerox by being a pussy
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>>61502599
kek. yeah, that's the reason linux hasn't dominated the desktop
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>>61500379
>Oh, I know how to piss off anti Windows users on /g/!
>I'll push B. Gates as our /g/uy!
>Now this gonna be gud bait!
Fuck off to /v/ you imbecile
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>Do you recall seeing this email?
No
>Do you doubt that you received this email?
No.

What did he mean by this?
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>>61502500

google just got hit by a massive 2.7bn fine in the eu
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>>61502626
You can prove someone got an email but you can't prove that they know they got it or saw it.
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Anyone can do quick rundown on this antitrust case?
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>>61502605

don't worry about all the leaked documents and court discoveries that show microsoft were going after gnu/linux at microsoft's height with their well known and documented anticompetitive practices

next you'll be telling me that intel offering rebates to oems had nothing to do with shoving amd out of the market
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In Part 5, the lawyer has Gates dead to rights at 7:35. Fascinating to watch him get out of it.
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>>61502661
Windows was shipping with a built in browser, while Netscape had a paid third party browser people quickly stopped buying. So that's how it got started.
Basically the deposition tried to prove that Gates thought Netscape was a legitimate threat so they could imply shipping with the browser was to stamp out competition
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>>61502661

basically before windows you got the kernel (dos) and users would generally build their own operating system themselves through acquiring software like browsers, word editors, spreadsheet tools, media players, etc, usually through purchase on a disk as downloading something like a browser would have been unfeasible for a lot of people

when windows came along the argument was made that microsoft was abusing their marketshare through offering products like internet explorer for free on windows, which effectively removed any incentive for users to go out to buy netscape/opera

it seems a bit silly in retrospect and it actually did a bit of good as browsers are now generally free, but we know microsoft engaged in these anticompetitive practices to accomplish what they did
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>>61502184
>lounging on BLUE screens
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>>61502721
>>61502742
Thanks.
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>>61502629
that was for not paying enough shekels

different subject
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>>61502500
NSA has to buy their data somewhere, right?
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>you will never be as smart as Bill Gates
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>>61502678
it's great that we live in a world where we don't have neural scans that can definitively determine our truth-telling state. bill looks guilty as fuck, but only his words hold any weight.
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>>61500379
I think he was just using the term 'java' for simplicity
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>>61502264

Just got to this part

>to me thats like a prisoners uniform
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they still got slapped with antitrust

in fact bill gates' deposition is commonly used as an example of how not to be deposed
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>>61501876
It's not just Jargon, you fucking retarded.

This is a deposition and terms actually matter. The question was stupid and outright baffling to Gates which is why he had to make the clear distinction between Java and what would be considered a competitor. The lawyer is asking dumb questions that don't make sense yet may incriminate Gates if he answers them wrong.
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>>61503067
i-is this true law fags? He didn't do well in my opinion either, but I'm ignorant on anti-trust stuff. He would not play well to a jury at least, he twists meaning and definitions more than the fucking lawyer here.
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>Back in 2004, the European Commission fined Microsoft a record €497m under an antitrust ruling. The Commission concluded that with a near-monopoly in the operating system market, Microsoft's bundling of Windows Media Player within Windows was anti-competitive. Microsoft was forced to unbundle the software and offer European consumers and manufacturers a version of Windows without it.
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>>61503533
>Most of winfags here don't use N version
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>>61500379
>/ourguy/
>No respect for FOSS
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>>61503533
geee thx eu
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>>61503533
They're just getting some of that licence money back.
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>>61502779
Wrong, that was apple. Google is getting skinned over monopoly position abuse where they use their search engine position to push other products like price comparison tools.
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>>61504013
Picrelated is the commissioner responsible for most of these.
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>>61504037
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>>61502486
Great description. I'm only 11 min in, but it's very clear that this is what's happening.
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>>61502742
The issue was Explorer was integrated with the entire system. You could search for files from your browser and such. You couldn't just install Netscape and have the same OS functionality as with Explorer. Computer Chronicles has a nice video showing the built in functionality Explorer provided.
MS maintained its monopoly power by anticompetitive means and attempted to monopolize the Web browser market,'' as well as ''unlawfully tying its Web browser to its operating system'' was the complaint. It's a bit more complicated than "hurr durr MS has 90% market share and they had their own browser, therefore it's a monopoly."
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>>61502937
>you will never be as rich as bill gates
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>>61502486
But I completely understand that's what's happening, because it's painfully obvious from the first question he asks. Muh antitrusts muh play nices.
Rand was fucking right.

>b-but compatibility! say the freetards
The only time we ever got close to universal compatibility was when Gates was swinging his dick around trying to set unified standards through sheer sale volume and utility, whether he was trying to accomplish that by breaking pre-existing partial compatibilities or not.

>>61503082
The point

My post

Your head

Your English ability

Your ability to pretend not to be autistic
>RRRREEEEEE why doesn't anyone know what a JRE is
I do, you're just fucking autistic and didn't read well, or assumed retarded shit.
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>Is Bill Gates /our guy/?
He's the one that mass produced the winfag population .
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>>61500549
he was like "it's MY MONEY son of a bitch, fuck the law and fuck the entire world, I will never be bankrupt after I became the richest motherfucker in the world because some fucked up law"
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>>61500379
No c# is far worse. C++ for retards and not as Portable as java
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Sees famous billionaire be a cunt to a lawyer.
feels some weird bro connection to him.
"he's one of us...!"
makes thread on 4chan
I come in.
Cringe.
Leave this comment.

mfw you think bill gates gives a fuck about you lmao.
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daily reminder that Bill Gates is smarter than Linus and Stallman combined
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>>61505370
>He's the one that mass produced the winfag population
coming from a kid who doesn't realize Linux came out in the late 90'. if it weren't for bill gates they'd all be macfags and Hillary would be president
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>>61500379
I love Bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_xuFA18m4
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>>61504863
>you will never be as sexy as Bill Gates
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1500739683671.webm
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>>61500490
What's a "sperglord" exactly?
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>>61500768
Isn't this contempt of court when you're being as obtuse as possible and you're not even trying to hide it?
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>>61507128
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>>61507128
what you're referring to as email is actually electronic mail, or as I've recently taken to calling it, electronically-delivered and addressed letters.
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You should see the video where Apple announces Internet explorer on Mac and the office suite. He made Steve jobs eat shit that day.
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Mac fags btfo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY

Stone cold killer.
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>>61502356
The feds DID the Windows 10 spyware, dummy
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>>61502397
>nut
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>>61502397
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>>61509046
Wasn't word on mac long before that?
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>>61509046
How so? Mac would've been fucking dead without office suite. Have you ever used AppleWorks?
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>>61506495
Except from the chroma aberration, that's some smooth animation
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>>61509046
Why was Bill gates booed?
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>>61500379
>(((bill gates)))
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>>61500379

him and rms were at Harvard or MIT together I can't remember which
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>>61500379
Why was he being questioned? What did he do wrong around that time? I tried googling but I couldn't find any answers
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>>61502356

> backdoored disk encryption
> sabotaged compilers
> telemetry
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>>61511116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.
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>>61500796
Why couldn't the FBI have just OCR'd it?
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>>61502356
Feds / DoD are doing the backdooring you fkn tool
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>>61500379
Can't wait for Facebook, Amazon, and Google to be grilled like this, too.

Zuck will crack under the pressure the fastest.
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>>61502500
>>61502435
I can see Trump giving the okay for an antitrust suit against Facebook, Google, and Amazon.
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>>61502604
That is why 1990s Bill Gates was an Alpha Male.

Look how quickly Bill Gates aged after being a beta faggot and not the stonecold CEO he was before.

Even Steve Ballmer didn't age as badly as Bill Gates.
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>>61507090
>>61504863
>>61502937
Desu, everyone on /g/ rather be Larry Elison, the world's most richest weeaboo.

Builds a 20 acre 16th century Japanese mansion in Woodside, California and also owns historical Japanese buildings back in Japan as well.

Has an impressive ancient Japanese art collection and used to own a cruise ship nicknamed The Rising Sun.
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>>61511487
wtf I love Larry Elison-san now.
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>>61511487
The best thing about larry is that he doesn't have the need to show himself in front of the cameras, he's not full of himself despite being a stone cold motherfucker, he prefers hiding in the shadows to the egocentric fame.
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Nah, when the original hackers were distributing paper tape copies of BASIC between one another for free for their Altairs, Bill threw a hissyfit and took it all away and forbid them from letting one another use it.

He was the first to create proprietary software and stood in the way of open source software.
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>>61511025
You don't remember? Bill Gates was a shrewd man.
Screwing over netscape and Sun by strong-arming other companies. In they case, they held Office hostage until Apple pushed their webbrowser and JavaVM implementation.
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>>61512597
is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No! Says the man with the neck beard. It belongs to everyone.
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>>61513419
Freesoft can and should be sold. You can buy a license for SUSELinux to this day but you will be given a copy of the sourcecode with FSF redistribution rights when you do.

Is a man not entitled to know the ingredients of the food he eats? Are you prohibited from making hamburgers because Burger King also makes similar hamburgers?
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>>61506783
hahahaha fucking ballmer
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>>61513463
The source code of software is more analogous to the recipe of a dish than just the list of ingredients, which is but 1 component of the complete recipe. You know the ingredients in the food you eat, but likely not the recipe.
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>>61511487
he also owns a fighter jet that he's not allowed to bring to the US but that he flies elsewhere for fun
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>>61511246
>fuck up with scanning one character
>whoops the whole SSL key doesn't work

>>61508465
only if you're supplying documents to the court. if you're supplying them to the opposition that rule doesn't really apply.
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>>61513419
this

>>61513463
but also this
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>>61500379
I remember watching this a few years ago. Absolutely hilarious the way he handles it. Lil Wayne did a pretty great one too, he pretended to be crazy.
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>>61514697
4000 characters isn't much. Ask three interns to type it out, see where they differ, ask them to redo it.
>ywn write a variant of base64 that uses the entire unicode set including the zero-width characters and cyrillic homoglyphs
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>>61506495
Last thing I expected to see here was a Felix the Cat gif.
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>>61500516
>a board whose motto is 'install gentoo'
>bill gates, of all people, is 'our guy'

really? gtfo
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>>61515676
>Lil Wayne did a pretty great one too, he pretended to be crazy.

I need to see this.
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>>61516562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_E_kKGvytk
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>>61500379
>>61500490
Bill Gates is a geek with good sense for marketing.
Being reckless is a good skill to have, most people hate him because they know they will never match his genius.

That's you, neckbeard loonix freetards.
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>>61500536
>The entire thing is an act.
Are you actually autistic when you screech on /g/?
Most of us aren't, we are just austic for tech.
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>>61515948
>he doesn't know anything about /g/
>the post
yeah, fuck off
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>>61511487
>Desu, everyone on /g/ rather be Larry Elison
AHAHAHAHA
yeah, I can expect that for the autistic scum of /g/ to be delusional as fuck
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>>61500379
Gates actually did what's needed, you don't progress and industry by being a gay pussy, the world doesn't work that way, FOSS is proof of that
You can't expect the world to be a little safe place where people agree to help eachother out, this just doesn't work
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>>61500379
I have huge respect for the man, but no, I don't think he's a loser autistic fuck, aka /ourguy/.
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This deposition should be essential reading watching material for kids going through school. I now know how I will approach every meeting I attend.

>asked question
>waits nearly 2 mins to respond

>argues over basic definitions of words

>argues over interpretation of questions

>anhero
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it's amazing to think just how much you can get away with as far as the law goes as long as you have the nerve to play the long game and not outright admit doing something you obviously did. >do you recall writing this email?
>no
>do you have any reason to doubt that you wrote this email?

contrary to what some of you have posted, another man that can be looked at in parallel with Gates, is Linus Torvalds. a man who, unlike Gates, doesn't need to hide behind definitions of words or interpretations of questions because he doesn't rely on layers upon layers of corporate etiquette that he needs to uphold in order to not be fucked by countless competitors, just waiting for an opportunity for the wrong word to slip out and at for least some of the bottomless bags of money to trickle down their way. if you are to play the game of the richest man in the world, you have to play it smart by "playing dumb". Torvalds, on the other hand, does not need to waste time playing corporate games and can just speak his mind with very little risk associated with himself, his products, and particularly his negligible "capital".
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>>61518949
>another man that can be looked at in parallel with Gates, is Linus Torvalds. a man who...

You mean practically everyone else.
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>>61500379
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Java, is in fact, Microsoft/Java, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Microsoft plus Java. Java is not an development environment unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning Microsoft system made useful by the Java programming language, JVM and vital system components comprising a full programming environment to be used in enterprise.
Many computer users run a modified version of the Mcirosoft/Java system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Microsoft/Java which is widely used today is often called “Java”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Microsoft/Java system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Java, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Java is the language: the logical system and standards in which programs are designed. The language is an essential part of any development system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete framework/api. Java is normally used in combination with the Microsoft apis: the whole system is basically Microsoft with Java added, or Microsoft/Java. All the so-called “Java” distributions are really distributions of Microsoft/Java.
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Apparently he's this https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality
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>>61500379
No.
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>>61500379
if he's such a genius why is his software such shit -- always was shit

a "marginal GUI" a decade later than xerox - far far lesser standard, a minimal copy of the quality apple desktop

now it's fallen apart totally .. it's "90s" they lost control of it because it's such a mess .. there no design gates was a favored amateur. A horrible little shit given the keys to everything

NTS4, they're stuck with
the registry

it's abysmal shit
but it became the drill bit (for 1 reason, it had the PC licence, the deal of the century, that the nepotic gates gained)
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>>61502184
he wore those sweaters all the time & he never showered .. people of that era report that he STUNK
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>>61519481
Shit that's my profile too. Why am I not a billionaire too...
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>>61519902
I suppose it depends what you consider shit. No doubt that MS software is full of holes which we hear about in the news everyday. But there was no single credible vision to take forward computing in the mid-90s in the way Microsoft did. For that I applaud them. However I do not applaud the monopoly they created and sat at the top of, crushing competitive innovation that other companies sought to bring to market.
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>>61515691
it's called base65535
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>>61519986
yeah - they crushed everything decent
right through the 90s it was a process of seeing decent products destroyed by microsoft

regressed human history
a suffocating monopoly

where they have to compete, it's found they can't compete .. hey, they're out of mobile

but it's over now
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>>61520090
why is android so huge

because you can rely on it -- it is quality software

people look @ windows for development now -- look @ the support & throw up

why go there .. that's it ..apple, android created software and services that people can rely on. You would not trust a microsoft machine with anything. They are UNRELIABLE. android is competent, professional and robust .. it isn't something they try to remarket in jazzy ways with total redesigns every couple years. Why microsoft is failing essentially, why their desktop is nowhere. Because it always was something that should be taken for granted. Always there, consistant, reliable, things they missed. Rule 1 in software, it works, don't change it. Years of that constant re-working, extension, heath robinson fashion, have resulted in it being a convoluted unmaintainable mess today ("windows")
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>>61502078
underrated
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>>61516570
god damn he actually is a smart dude
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>>61520332
>>61516570
I'll retract that, You don't threaten someone in a deposition and get to be called smart.
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>>61520090
Damn I didn't realise Android had become so dominant, at least in terms of volume. For every conversation I hear about 'google has lost its way' I now see that the company has created model of persistence. Still, I suppose Android is now where Windows was is in the mid 90s and look what happened to Windows.

I wonder what Android's Achilles heal is (aside from fragmentation)? It seems to have interoperability with most technologies - iot, mobile, media, AR, VR... maybe no desktop but why bother trying to compete in a diminishing market...
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>>61520417
It's free, relatively open sourced, easy enough to use (aside from some security issues which even Google seem now to be clamping down on...)
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>>61520417
android OWNS
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>>61520711
Sundar Pichai is our guy
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>>61520417
compatibility is king, however there are issues.

with the phones, it was ecosystem. had microsoft been in there from the get go and been developing shit the whole time, they would be where android or ios are, however windows phones were shit, compared to their others.

then android, which was free for all, came out and everyone moved to that because its free, and developed by someone with money behind them, it's not like apple let ios on anything they didn't make.

after that, you see blackberry and symbian in a period where they needed to play catch up because ios and android were already there, they couldn't and they fell because of it.

The best thing microsoft could do, is dual boot the os, one android version to use as a phone, and one windows version to use as a mobile dockable pc, not a powerful one, but a get you by normal office worker kind of shit. that way they could grow their os marketshare and potentially release phone optimized software that would make it competitive. say what you want about ios or android, If I had the option to use real windows on a phone/tablet I would
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>>61520144
t. pajeet
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>>61521051
>had microsoft been in there from the get go
wut, windows mobile had been around well before iOS or Android
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>>61521051
Reddit spacing cuck.
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>>61521099
and to nearly all users it was just the screen they see for a moment before they dial a number.

>>61521108
thanks, didn't know that wasn't filtering anymore. though it's good to know you never went to school as every one forces you to double space between lines, you either do it in formating or you do it manually, not to mention it makes a wall of text not a wall of text anymore.
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he is.... wednesday is too
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>>61500379
DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANSTER

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2X52rS-ZLE
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>>61520711
Windows Phone is still the better platform

>java
fuck off.
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>>61522424
>Windows Phone
It's dead. Poodella killed it.
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>>61502626

anybody that gets hundreds of emails a day (and this is normal in some companies) knows this is a perfectly possible situation.
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>>61522567
irrelevant, Android is trash.
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>>61515948
>He thinks the moto is an actual invitation to install gentoo
>He doesn't realise that "install gentoo" is the new "Delete system32"
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>>61500379
JAVA
A
V
A
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Test
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>>61522847
>J A V A
>A
>V
>A
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https://youtu.be/KxaCOHT0pmI
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>>61524519
>"jump over a chair from a standing position"
>taking a step before jumping
classic bill
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>18:30
>they start arguing about the diferences between the words "conclude" and "belive"
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>>61515948
>>61522738
>being this new
Educate yourself fags.
Install gentoo is a phrase used to show that your question belongs to >>>/g/sqt
Because if you were tech savy enough install gentoo, you wouldnt be asking that stupid question
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>>61526981
I always took it as more of a 'use a community supported OS if you expect community support'. Call Microsoft and attempt to get your $200 worth if you're running Windows, because you are actively supporting a shit and unethical company and I definitely won't help you.
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>>61527101
Gentoo lies in the eye of the installer
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>>61521508
What the fuck
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>>61527101
Install gentoo isn't exclusive for botnet os though. It can be applied to ubuntu users too, for example.
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>>61500379

What flavour is that pepsi he's drinking?
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>>61528956
Autism flavor.
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>>61500490
Exactly, Gates probably spent hours upon hours rehearsing a mock deposition with his legal team and was well prepared to simply create confusion and total incoherent and ambiguous statements simply to avoid incriminating himself and his company.

This is the way the law works when you have MONEY. So ya, peasants pretty much won't understand what's going on.
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>>61522424
why is it dead then?
its dead because people didn't understand it?
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>>61514697
That would be during the discovery process, and any half decent opposition lawyer would bring shit like that to the courts attention.

You would get hit with sanctions for sure. So either that never happened, or whoever you were in a legal battle with was embarrassingly bad at their job.
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