How does Mommy do it? She buttfucked intel, and will buttfuck

>>61478324
She used a strap on.

OP claiming ID.

>>61478324
It's the first time AMD has good management in like over 10 years.
>How does Mommy do it?
Laser-like focus and delivering everything roughly on track.
AMD is doing almost everything perfectly besides RTG marketing (but it's basically ATi in everything but name so that's given).

By being one of, if not THE best CEO in the world.

She's an electrical engineer with a talent for bean counting to cut costs where it matters, and spending money for that little extra user experience.

>>61478565
This and she brough right people for right jobs back into AMD.

>>61478583
Except for Raja. And letting a few of their Fellows walk away.

>>61478324
>and will buttfuck nvidia in a few days
not going to happen

>>61478900
What's wrong with Raja?

>>61478900
Raja came on board after like %60 of Vega was finished, we'll see if Raja is trash or not with Navi.

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>>61478931
No, not exactly.
Vega is mostly his job and it looks good so far where it works.

>>61478950
>working game drivers arrive
>vega outperforms p6000 on games
we're in for a bright future

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>>61479973
You know what's weird?
It's gonna perform gameworks features better than nvidia cards because it can CHEW through geometry like nothing else.
But I don't know if 64 ROPs are enough.

>>61478324
Anyone got sexy pics of her? Like legit ones?

>>61480057
They should be, ROPs are usually overkill on both AMD and Nvidia.

Man using HBM2 certainly helps to trim down die size a lot.
They pack 4k ALUs and a beefy scheduler into 484mm^2 die.

>>61480057
I'm totally getting the 375W watercooled version

>>61480149
I doubt it'll actually actively consume 375watts unless it's clocked to the moon OOTB if Vega's power gating is anything like Zen.

>amd tards think Vega will outperform Nvidia's 1080Ti

gtfo

>>61480183
Right now it trades blows (and outperforms) full GP102 when it works, and full GP102 is more powerful than 1080ti.

>>61480171
Vega != Zen, not by a long shot.

>>61480233
It shares some IP though.
Powr gating is not exclusive to CPUs.

>>61480238
True, but I think there were some tests on the power draw, and they weren't phenomenal by any means.

>>61480252
Because power gating is disabled. It pours 1.2volts for no reason.
In fact goymennexus managed to undervolt it and hit 1600mhz at 280watts of power.
It's impressive considering its 4k ALU card.

>>61480268
and it performed better because there was less thermal throttling too

>>61478919
Butt hurt cycle amd fanboys.
New product will destroy nvidia
New product just need new drives
New product is best perf/$
New product just need fine wine drives
New product maker are retarders(here raja)
Nvidia just will launch refresh
Nvidia new arch is just renaming.
Just look this cheap AMD card in some online store.
Wait for ...

>>61480268
>Because power gating is disabled. It pours 1.2volts for no reason.
It maybe about first production run, they are cranking the voltage up to guarantee majority of the chips hit the necessary performance targets. Presumably they will bin consumer gaymen cards

>>61480057
Source? I cannot find this review on toms hardware.

>>61480347
If he can make multi chip card with infinity fabric work i'll forgive his prior bs

>>61480347
This has nothing to do with Raja?
>>61480351
It doesn't look like a shit bin though. At all.
Again, they hit 1600mhz at 280watts of power.

>>61480370
it's on the hitler version

http://www.tomshardware.de/vega-benchmarks-workstation-leistungsaufnahme-gaming,testberichte-242375.html

Mommy is a trap and she fucked Intel's ass with her feminine penis. Not sure she will be able to fuck Nvidia's very tight ass with that huge feminine dick but if she does she will rip Nvidia.

>>61480392
>prior BS
R300 or R520 (that was late) or R700 or Evergreens were BS?
Come the fuck on.

>>61480410
page 6 to be exact

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>>61480392

>>61480400
>It doesn't look like a shit bin though
Yeah I don't think they are doing much (or any?)binning atm, put 1.2v, test, does it work? then ship. not binning waste good chips like these

Press "W" to thank mama for giving us more cores and threads for cheaper
1 W = 1 Core

>>61480447
They put 1.2v to be sure it works stable because power management is absent from drivers atm.

i ended up buying a gtx 1080 ti for cuda. maybe if amd can fix their sad state of affairs for scientific libraries, i'll go back to amd again (had hd 7870 => r9 390)

>>61480430
Any speculation on how the interconnect is going to work in this thing? Are they adding extra i/o lanes to this thing? 24lanes would allow connections both ways across the cube and to the host/cpu. Would tie in with radeonSSD with 16x host bus and 2 4x for the two nvme drives. All running IF over pcie phy of course.

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>>61478324
Mommy's got talent and a PHD in EE from MIT
She's also has a hidden spice.
She will be known as : MOTHER
and be instrumental to the era of KEK

You have no idea of the but buttfucking to come.

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>>61478324

>>61480510
Send this to JUSTnich.

>>61480477
don't keep your hopes up, that thing has 4 vegas in it, it's 1200W of heat to dissipate, so we're not seeing it too soon

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>>61480477

>>61480523
You can clock them conservatively.
Like any multi-GPU board ever did.

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>>61480520
Alt version
>>61480523
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2990-vega-frontier-edition-undervolt-benchmarks-improve-performance

Could someone ask Otellini to get his jeezer ass back to Intel and choke JUSTnich live on the next IDF?

>>61478931
You'll be disappointed because those chinks at RTG China are simply no good. It's up to Lisa to hire a competent team for Raja. A leader only touches on all areas and gives high-level direction. If the team can't execute on the details then it's the team that's the problem. I can't say for certain with hardware design but on the software side of things I've been part of more than a few teams that dragged down a good leader because of problem children and getting rid of them isn't just easy when you're continuously updating an ancient, monolithic project and you need to bring a fresh recruit up to date while still delivering frequent releases.

>>61480612
But Vega looks good.
In fact it's the first balanced Radeon since fucking Tahiti.
So was Polaris despite only having minor tweaks to GCN.
Chinks are not the problem, time and money are.

>>61480400
Just look cringe fest in r/AMD

>>61480656
>just look at retarded whiny children at fucking karmawhoring forum
But why?

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>>61478324

It wasn't Lisa Su or Raja Koduri who designed Zen processor architecture. It was Jim Keller named microprocessor engineer. He is probably the greatest and well known processor architect of all time. He's also co-inventor of the x86-64 processor architecture. He has also designed the ARM processors a Apple iPad's and iPhones use.

Here's some processor architectures that Jim Keller has designed:

- AMD K7
- AMD K8
- AMD K12
- AMD Zen
- Apple A4
- Apple A5
- x86-64
- HyperTransport
- Infinity Fabric (successor of HyperTransport)

>>61480642
>But Vega looks good.
Even if it somehow matches the 1080TI with magic drivers it's competing with a product that monopolized its performance bracket for like a year. A team that consistently delivers months late isn't going to get better without serious changes.

>>61480674
He's also the DEC Alpha dude and no he's not Zen designer. Mike Clark is. Keller was busy managing both teams and doing K12.

>Implying Nvidia And Intel arnt eternally double teaming Su for eternity.

Giant throbbing extreme cock edition, and Titan Cock XL in both her holes.

>>61480683
>somehow matches
It trades blows with full, not cutdown GP102, anon.
Also is this 2002 again?
People were saying the same shit before R300 launched.

>>61480696
In your dreams, Brian.

>>61480696
enjoy getting fisted by her with both arms

she focuses on creating competitive products rather than market manipulation and laziness like krzanich does, and that alone is seemingly enough of a novel concept to turn the company's fortunes around

also rory read deserves more credit than he usually gets for recruiting a whole slew of new senior staff, including jim keller and su herself, and for implementing things like their semi-custom business to keep amd treading water before the release of zen.

>>61480674
Jim "keller" is a "killer" for Intel.


K i know it's a bad joke

>>61480767
It's almost like hiring based on skill works better than Race/gender hires.
>Really makes you think

Mt work is hiring cross dressers and Trans people now.
Kinda hard to train a person whose dressed like a girl with shitty make-up.

>>61480656
>Just look cringe fest in r/AMD
Don't have those fuccbois keep leaking into /g/ just to earn that .20 cent a post.

>>61480767
Read was nice and Su is even better but someone needs to hang Meyer (for greenlighting Bulldozer) and Ruinz. Especially Ruinz.

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WTF I hate Jim Keller now!

>>61480845
>rekts Jewtel in under 4 years and then walks away without even looking back at the massacre to revolutionize autopilot cars

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am I a good boy mommy

>>61480825
im hesitant to blame dirk meyer too much, he was dealt a very bad hand with bulldozer and did the best he could with it. semiaccurate did an interesting article about this.

people forget that he was one of the instrumental architects for the athlon so it's not like he's a complete incompetent.

>>61480400
Raja's biggest fault is that they keep putting him on stage. He is painful to watch.

In terms his technical feats, isn't he responsible for Evergreen? Because that was the last time AMD really threw any punches that landed.

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>>61480410
Thanks. Have a Hitler.

>>61480715
Yeah it trades blows in not gaming
So it will trade blows in gaming when it's missing all of the special quadriceps sauce and somehow gain 1080ti level gaming performance? Ok buddy
You're building yourself up to get left down because it compares with the quadro in specific workloads

It's not gonna happen, it's gonna be between the 1080 and 1080ti leaks already confirm, it's done with

>>61480915
He's not incompetent, in fact he's a good engineer (being a co-architect of Alpha 21064 and 21264 that ja) BUT greenlighting Bulldozer was a huge mistake on his part.
>>61480943
He's also responsible for fucking R300, the first chip that brought us fucking good aniso and usable AA. Also an incredible performer.
I think they need to put Hallock on stage for GPUs.

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>>61480893
No one is changing for this artisanal infinity glue® chip
The spike in sales are all neckbeards that sick to muh amd and was ages on a 3rd then suddenly upgrade like it's the second coming.

Ryzen is okay, but is a cheapo inferior product.
And don't even talk about pajeet vga That is a worse joke

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>>61480988
That's some shitty bait.

>>61481013
>b-bait
Just grow up man, if you don't have an argument just don't waste a post

>>61481012
Brian this is some effortless shitposting.

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>>61481033
Yes, this is shitty bait.

>>61480989
read this.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/17/why-did-bulldozer-underwhelm/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/17/bulldozer-doesnt-have-just-a-single-problem/

dirk meyer really was a scapegoat.

>half the internet is jizzing in their pants due to Threadripper
Fuck it's been over 10years since AMD had that kind of good publicity.

>>61481096
AMD switched their winnings
CPUs are good now
GPUs are lackluster
Hopefully Navi blows us out of the water

>>61481077
It's not a shame to use an inferior knock off product like ryzen if you are poor.
Just don't say it's the best of best because you know it's a flawed product.

>>61481117
Vega is far from lackluster.

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>>61480903
Mommy's proud of you

>>61480988
>It's not gonna happen, it's gonna be between the *1070 and *1070 leaks already confirm, it's done with

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Can someone please photoshop Mummy Su's face onto Mom from Futurama for meme purposes

>>61478324
Fat cunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMGOq_PbVQ

I didn't think the difference would be this big, or is something fishy?

>780ti drops behind a 960 because nvidia stop writing drivers for it
>poor kepler
>shitposters still think drivers won't make much difference

>>61481346
7700k is a corelet.
Whenever something needs cores (streaming/workstation tasks/encoding/whatever) it chockes.

>>61481359
FEs stellar workstation perf (and GM2xx delays) are an examples of drivers making all the difference (and fucking delays).

>>61480674
Jim "Wreck my shit" Keller
Jim "KikeRipper" Keller
So based

>>61481346
1700 has cores to spare for streaming, 7700k doesn't. it's that simple

>>61480674
JIM KELLER
JEM KILLER
JEW KILLER
Oy!

>>61481346
Encoding for streaming really likes to spread itself out, but that becomes a problem when it has to compete for resources with something else on 4c/8t.

6c/12t, or even just 6c/6t works notably better.


t. recent Westmere-EP upgrade

>>61481401
>Not Jim "the Contract" Keller

>>61481359
>780ti is a beast on linux especially for tge price

>>61481194
It's legitimately furyX 2.0
Better than the 80, cant beat the 80ti

The fanboys are just much more potent this year around

>>61481527
I'm all for AMD coming out swinging, but I don't think this is going to be Evergreen 2.0.

Is mommy the perfect CEO?

>understands users and has forced change to accommodate, giving users better experience overall
>is incredibly smart
>has an abnormally long resume
>perfect balance of function and form
>literally reviving a dead company like she's Mercy

That old hag Marissa wishes she was as great as mommy.

>>61481582
Probably not
But it's falling EXACTLY where the furyX did
Better than the 80 can't beat the 80ti, watercooled, high wattage
Gotta wait for Navi, they'll definitely get nvidua then cause nvidua has nothing else

>>61481605
>Le overwatch
It's good the know the age demographic of AMDumbfucks

>>61481012
How much do you get paid for this? https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22infinity%20glue%22/

Also you have to realize that just because IF has one thing it's not good at doesn't mean it doesn't make up for it's flaws in other ways. Most workloads will see it even or ahead of Intel. But of course this would go against your shill narrative.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade

>>61480674

/thread

>>61481527
>>61481621

Now, please present your argument as to how it is logically possible that Vega FE performs like a p6000 in geometry bound pro workloads, while performing like a 1080 in games.

Also note that the following Vega uarch features are presently disabled in the gaming drivers: Primitive Shaders, Tile Based Rasterization, HBCC, AVFS, ACG

So, unless you intend to argue that ALL of Vega's new uarch features are broken in silicon and cannot be enabled, I don't see how it's possible to predict much of anything about how Rx Vega will perform in games with all of those features enabled???

>>61478919
the HBM meme has killed any gcn/ncu generational improvements, the arch is well behind.
They just don't have their finger on the pulse of datacenter or consumer, navi will be exactly the same.

AMD hasn't had anything good since socket A.

>>61480430
That's quite the fingerbox. I can't wait to get one myself!

>>61482206
T.butthurtminer

>>61482435
>steam gaymur shit
>announcing sage
>reddit spacing
stay in your r/PCMR containment subplebbit

>>61481307
shes just bulking

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>>61481117
Wait for Navi

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>>61482497

>numale claims writing norms is from "reddit"

>>>/lgbt/

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>>61482566
>implying

>>61482465
t.amdrone on damage control

>>61482435
Stay cucked faggot.

>>61482435
That is because glued amd CPUs are so powerful they use exclusevely for mission ctritcal meme missions only

>>61481405
No one watches your overwatch streams
You are just trying to create a reason on your mind to use more cores, albeit inferior ones

>>61481077
Interesting articles.
Seems like bulldozer was bad at everything.

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>>61482665

>>61482168
>Now, please present your argument as to how it is logically possible that Vega FE performs like a p6000 in geometry
Not him, but AMD has always been shit at optimising hardware.

>>61482435
To be fair, a lot of non-gamers bought Ryzen. Intel's high core count CPUs are retarded expensive in comparison.

>>61478324
>intel
Intel buttfucked themselves


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA7X6emZLTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_QzPj1wuWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOIhX2vuTGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwZqXGdzHw

>Nvida
Not a chance

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>>61483097
This is not the reason for their fall.
Nice try though.

>no change in market share

>Butt fucked everyone xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

>>61483156
Companies that spend money on diversity programs and hire based on diversity instead of merit, will always be at disadvantage.

>>61483201
>no change in market share
Based on?
>>61482206
Better memory is worse?
I guess GDDR5 in 4870 was also a fucking mistake.

>>61483097
>>61483156
>>61483208
Should've spent that $300 million on buying glue.

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>>61481012
>>61482258
>>61482435
>>61482696
>>61483201

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>>61483208
Diversity of minds is invaluable.
Diversity based on skin color for marketing shekels and social currency is not.

A considerable number of companies in the valley have flawed hiring practices which leads to a lack of innovation and valuable idea share. The least of all factors in this is skin color.

Things rise and they fall in accordance with times and the cyclical nature of the universe. Nothing in it is above this law.

Attempting to blame their fall on race based hiring as if minorities are making the decisions within the company only points out your own flawed and biased views of the world.

Try harder next time.

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>>61483264
Money doesn't rectify myopic/greedy pursuits. It actually precipitates it. They could have spent $3 billion on glue and still would have had no vision/wherewithal as to where to put it. It's the nature of such things when you've gone off reservation.

>>61481346
kek, the 1700 isn't even OCd and it destroys the 7700k. I don't get why it's so popular, it's not like everyone has a 1080ti out there. Might as well get a 1600 + 1080Ti rather than 7700k + 1080.

>>61483229
I never said it was bad, should have put that money elsewhere. Fury bombed because of it and vega is going to do the same.

Bandwidth isn't everything, don't believe raja's lies.

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>>61478583
Say his name

>>61481658
dont bother replying to intel shills m8. They buy x299 mobos and i9 cpus to "game" on them

>>61483502
is this nigga even human? he makes revolutionary shit at amd and apple then just walks away like he got bored of destroying competitors left and right

>>61483691
It's because he doesn't care about the competition, only about doing his best and making the world a better place at the same time

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>>61483691
As was mentioned before, Mike Clark was the senior engineer on Zen and he still works at AMD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UasmBgBLznw

Suzanne Plummer is another engineer on the left.

Jim Keller was mostly in charge of overseeing the Zen and K12 teams (K12, which were ARM server CPUs, were sidelined in favor of Zen)

>>61483473
>Fury bombed

[Citation needed]

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>>61483201
>Implying

>>61483450
>Might as well get a 1600 + 1080Ti rather than 7700k + 1080.
People buy a lot of 7700k/1080ti 144hz combos.
Ryzen is a bottleneck at 1080p

>But but a 1080ti is Overkill for 1080p
It's actually not, there are games with taxing settings that will run 60fps or lower on a 1080ti.

>>61483833
It kinda did
It lost to the 980ti at launch
Had extremely low availability
No OC headroom
It undersold super hard.
Who releases a product without proper stock behind it?

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>>61478324
you think you'd be successful in life if she was your mother /g/?

>>61484016
1060 sells way more. Or it did before the miner rape.

>>61483972
Looks legit

Really made me think

>>61481346
Fishy I can stream at 1440p on my 4790k fine.

>>61480057
>64 ROPs are enough
the new cache system is to offset lack of ROPs as I understand it
new cache is disabled on FE right now even though it was advertised extensively, if it isn't sandbag I don't know what is

>>61484580
at 60fps? sure.

>>61484043
You don't mine coin on a ryzen 1600....
>>61484881
>if it isn't sandbag I don't know what is
I assume a hardware flaw
Knowing AMD, it's entirely possible

>>61484881
>>61485344
my money is on sandbag
they were sandbagging this whole time on Ryzen and got Intel in the gut, so why not for GPUs too

>>61484027
Get PhD on MIT but still won't had social life.

>>61485344
>Knowing AMD, it's entirely possible
I don't remember ATi/AMD GPUs having hardware bugs. CPU yes, GPU? can't remember.

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>>61478324
The drive to continue where the führer left off.

>>61480674
He is the master of computers.

>>61485623
AMD isn't sandbagging with Vega, at least not intentionally. Drivers are rushed because Su gave a solid deadline for release, and they didn't want to have a delay. She wants to keep up the momentum with the release of Ryzen and their enterprise parts being so strong.

>>61486111
They're just dropping one nuke after another all over Intel's shit here.

I want a modern AMD laptop.

>tfw bought a 1080ti already
>Vega not out until next month
>using Ryzen so no iGPU
How much will Vega cost? The 1080ti is new but I have an old HD7850 I could use while I wait for Vega.

>>61486339
$700

>>61478324
She autisted herself so hard in electrical engineering so she became a CEO.

The price for it was looking like a man, being childless and probably die alone.

>mommy
>a fucking flat-faced gook

no, my mother is a full-blooded aryan so go fuck yourself, eliot rogers

>>61486352
How does it compare with a 1080ti?

>>61486383
It's more expensive so it's better

>>61486399
Aftermarket 1080tis are $750.

>>61486408
And aftermarket Vega's will be more expensive.

>>61486339
>How much will Vega cost?
nobody knows.

Unless she fires all visa workers and hires only American born people, since its an American company, then I want her to be shot in the head by a pissed off employee just like every other CEO that pulls the same shit.

>>61486415
But will Vega be better than the 1080ti?

>>61486422
It's more expensive so yes.

>>61486441
Can you use real logic please?

>>61486455
More expensive product = better product

Is the most real life logic you could have.
There's nothing more absolute than that

>>61486466
So you use a Mac?

>>61486473
Are you implying there aren't more expensive PCs than Macs?

>>61486482
So you use that $6000 i7 980m SLI laptop?

>>61486489
No, a Xeon mobile workstation

>>61486489
You seem to have problems with people having money and spending it on luxury hardware.

Amend this by:

1. Ceasing being poor
2. Stop caring about what other people do with their money

>>61480642
>In fact it's the first balanced Radeon since fucking Tahiti.
not Pitcairn?

>>61486517
I'm saying expensive=\=better. I have no problem with people buying whatever they want.

So we are back falseflagging shills making claims that were never there to begin with so Nvidia's redditors can have their ebyn OC about AMD drones overhyping stuff.

When will you idiots ever learn.

>>61486525
It's a fact, it's not ALWAYS a fact, but more expensive == better in most situations

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9 days until suicide hotlines are crashed by nvidiots

>>61486534
lol okay

>>61483473
Yes, but die size is everything.
And HBM makes it smaller.

No way it's better than the 1080ti. Also, won't the stock be limited for a while?

>>61486540
inb4 RX Vega is a dud while WX Vega Pro rocks Nvidia's socks off.

>>61486552
>inb4 wait for Navi and meanwhile look at this one Doom benchmark where Vega goes even with 1080.

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>>61481285
possibly.

>>61486551
How much fucking stock do you need for a $600+ GPU?

These things sell under 100k units globally, not really a big number.

>>61485826
R600 had tons of them, they had to respin it twice to get it working.

>>61480066
>her

>>61486551
It won't be even better than 1080. This is even worse than Fury X because at least Fury X was sometimes competing with Nvidia's best offer at the time which was 980 Ti.

Remember that Fury X is also 10% faster than 980 Ti in Doom while being 30% slower in games like GTA5. If Vega is 10% faster than stock 1080 in Doom you can expect the same shit happening again in all those normie games like PUBG, modded Skyrim or GTA5 that people still play to this day.

>>61486578
When do you think aftermarket cards will start coming out?

>>61486593
Probably mid august

>>61486552
You can't perform THAT well in rendering and then suck cocks at gaymen.
That just doesn't happen.

>>61486540
>9 days 17 hrs 04 min 26 sec

>>61486597
I think I'll just open this 1080ti, the return deadline is just before Vega release and I want to wait for benchmarks and whatever Sapphire comes out with. What comes after Vega, anyway?

>>61486613
Navi, possibly the first scalable GPU architecture.

>>61486613
I'd wait either if by some chance Vega is a monster.
Or there's price drops.

Just return it, unless you really need that in the next 9 days

>>61478324
By cutting company profit in favor of market share and consumer confidence. They will inevitably hike prices, lower quality or both.

That said, be smart take advantage of their 'strategy'. A dollar saved is a dollar earned.

>>61486540
imposibiru huh
this AMD rollercoaster getting out of hand, did they hire new marketing lead couple years back?

>>61486627
>inevtably hike prices
I don't remember AMD hiking prices during K7 or K8 times.

>>61486625
How good will [spoiler]gayming[/spoiler] be with an 1800x and a HD7850? Would I be able to use a 1440p 165Hz monitor for general use? I'm going away in a week anyway so I guess I could return the 1080ti and wait.

>>61486630
Those were still shitshows. Nothing close to what Ryzen has done to the market. They have a proper foothold now, and will continue the 'good silicone for less than a hooker' meme. Zen2 will be cheap, but priced slightly higher than Zen1. Past that point they'll be overcharging like Shintel.

>>61486673
>K8
>shitshow
What?

So we can expect a good ~$800 Sapphire RX Vega in August?

>>61486835
Yes. Maybe early September.
Also XFX may or may not deliver good AiB design.

>>61483809
suzanne is the true patrician mummy

>>61486844
Sapphire are slow, proper Nitro might be in alte September.
XFX got much better and do it fast enough, might be second go to AMD brand.

>>61481264
wait she is a woman? I didnt expect such leadership from a female CEO.

>>61486789
$700+ mainstream SKUs

I hope vega is priced competitively. I really need an upgrade but I also want to have some money left over to upgrade to a 4K monitor.

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>>61486408
lmao if only

>>61482946
>Not him, but AMD has always been shit at optimising hardware.
How would we know if this was the case for Rx Vega when literally every major uarch feature hasn't been enabled yet in the gaming drivers we've seen so far on Vega FE?

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>>61484016
>Ryzen is a bottleneck at 1080p
Not really if you buy 3600mhz ram.

>>61487107
I've been told that Sapphire makes the best AMD cards, was I memed?

>>61487611
My AMP was ~$760

>>61487661
Is 3000 okay?

>>61487713
Sapphire is usually very good but RX 480 was kinda meh. XFX is unreliable. ASUS a shite. MSI is somewhere in the middle.

>>61487724
I'd say everything 2666Mhz or above is good

>>61487611
>Europoor
Nobody cares. Also RX 580 costs $500 on that shitty website of yours. Expect a nice $1500 price tag on that Vega if NL is truly so cucked by miners.

>>61487726
So wait until when to buy? End of September?

>>61487740
>End of September?
At worst case id say yes.

>>61487753
What's best case?

>>61480845
Why, he doin all work while musk day dream

>>61487759
End of august.

>>61487771
That would be nice. I'm on vacation in August so I won't have to suffer through not having Vega.

>>61478324
I wanted to buy ryzen to use it for android studio but i've read somewhere ryzen doesn't support hardware virtualization thus can't be used for such purpose. Does that mean ryzen also sucks with VM's and other workloads?

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>>61487839
It has virtualization support

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>>61481285
I hope you get this anon.

>>61480539
I can't tell the difference

>>61480674
Jim "KikeKiller" Keller

>>61480809
>Kinda hard to train a person whose dressed like a girl with shitty make-up.
How so?

>>61485344
>I assume a hardware flaw
That would suck.

>>61487713
No, Sapphire is the GOAT AIB.

>>61486131
Ryzen Mobile soon(tm).

>>61487839
Definitely has VM support, and although it was a little shaky at launch, it's certainly in a stable position now, especially because of EPYC.

>>61486408
When you Americucks say "$750", do you still not count sales taxes and stuff as part of that?

>>61488480
I've never paid sales tax on Amazon

>>61488496
How does that work in America? If you don't pay sales taxes on Amazon but in physical shops, how does Amazon get away with that?

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>>61486356
Mother has many children and leads a fulfilled life.
Don't you see yet anon?

>>61488535
I have no idea.

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>>61486540
Spicy

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>>61487611
How do you manage to be more expensive than fucking Sweden? What's wrong with you?

>>61488535
Afaik they have an "expected sales tax" which you're supposed to file yourself. Legally you don't have to.

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>>61487357
Mommy's unique

>>61488584
It seems physical shops would be up in arms about these unfair taxing practices.

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>>61487740
>>61487753
>>61487759
>>61487771

That summer timeline.
Grand summer happening(s).
Digits.

>>61478919
nothing the guy literally have said that his first child will be navi and while he is involved on some features of vega the vega isnt really a BIG step ahead of the rest of the gcn family
navi will be the most substantial change they will do in gcn since 2011

>>61488715
>vega isnt really a BIG step ahead of the rest of the gcn family
Vega is EXACTLY that.
The only thing is retains from Fiji is ISA and ALU count.

>>61487738
>>61487718
>>61488578
That's what 21% VAT + minerfag bullshit will get you.

>>61488869
But even without that 21% VAT, it's still very much more expensive. Are you saying the Netherlands are the cryptonigger homelands?

>>61488899
We've always been known as proto-jews anon. I don't know a lot about the cryptofag community here but if the price is anything to go by it sure seems like it's big.

>>61488625
They are
Some states are beginning to force Amazon to collect sales tax as well

>>61488480
You pay $750 for a product. Depending on where you live you may have a more intrusive government that charges more for sales tax. That's up to you to figure out if you want to an hero for a 30% VAT.

>>61487867
Pajeta is looking hot
I wouldn't mind feeding her some curry

>>61488747
It's probably using an updated version of the GCN ISA desu senpai. Even polaris had new instructions iirc

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Someone post mommy with her longer hair(not that other goofy haircut).

HYPE

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
I JUST REALIZED MY FUCKING G-SYNC MONITOR IS PAST THE RETURN DATE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>61490680
Good goy.

>>61490697
What do I do? I was going to refund my 1080ti and wait for Vega, but now I'd be out $400. Should I just use the 1080ti?

>and will buttfuck nvidia in a few days
With a chip that blows fuses and barely keeps pace with a 1080?

>>61490727
Just use the 1080ti. Vega is seeming like it'll be months before it actually has decent drivers anyway.

>>61490748
Guess I'll wait for whatever comes after Navi.

My favorite thing in this thread are all the AMD corporate cock sucker marketing faggots who are desperately trying to shift responsibility of Vega not being Rajas Waterloo. And how Navi is going to be some sort of savior.

In six months Vegas competitor will be Volta. And all it can manage is 1080 performance for 70 watts more, and undercut the competition. Pathetic.

>>61491181
I'd still buy it if it meant I don't have a doorstop two years from now when DX12/Vulkan really takes off and NVidia still hasn't added a true hardware scheduler.

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>>61491181
>>61491255
Also, pic related.

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>>61487867
She could poo in my loo anyday

Is she Taiwanese? She looks like good MILF material.

>>61478912
vega will be just like ryzen.

weaker but dirt. fucking. cheap.

screenshot this.

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>>61492461

>>61492461
Ryzen 7 = 6900K for half the price
Vega = 1080 for half the price? (not likely)

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>>61492473

>>61492469
cherry picking does you no credit

>>61492473
not necessarily half. think 480 to 970. Nvidia isn't Intel.

everybody's obsessed with flashy halo products that 99% of people won't buy. I'm talking about the full Vega range. plus Raven Ridge.

>>61492508
Stop spamming your straight bullshit. You are worse than WCCFTech.

>>61492539
Why bother competing for the best, when your hardware fucking sucks, am I right?

>>61492574
if that's how you want to put it, sure.

in the end, Vega won't have a 1080Ti contender just like Ryzen doesn't have a 7700K contender. that doesn't invalidate the entire lineups unless you're some kind of brainlet fanboy that wouldn't buy AMD regardless.

>>61492508
That guy is a fucking clown show. Half his "insider information" ends up being wrong yet he still keeps bringing it up like he's not just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.

>>61492621
after the "5GHz on air" bullshit from CanardPC the logical conclusion is to ignore Europeans altogether

>>61492614
Except the 7700k does have a competitor. The 1700. I mean, unless you're a complete reality denying AMD cock sucking apologist faggot and think AMD picked their pricing out of a hat.

And if the hardware can't compete, you do what AMD has been doing with Bulldozer. Undercut the competitions pricing and hope it sells to a few gullible fanboys.

>>61492721
I said contender, not "competitor", you dumb heap of shit. they perform vastly differently. the comparison is meant to highlight the fact that Intel's uarch is still significantly ahead of AMD's. yet Ryzen sells much, much more than Bulldozer did. can you work that shitty brain of yours and try to figure out why? I'll give you all the time you need.

>>61492808
>contender, not "competitor"
Not him, butyou are getting a little triggered by 2 words that mean basically the same thing.

>>61493081
as far as I understand it, "contender" implies the feasibility of winning and "competitor" does not. even though the 1700 and 7700K might be competing for your money, they're not contending for leadership in the same areas. the difference in single and multi threaded performance is vast in both cases.

similarly, Vega as an architecture would be competing with Pascal (and Volta) but not contending for "fastest graphics card on the market", the fabled halo product. winning in that category isn't necessary for Vega to be a success, although the bad press would definitely hurt.

it's possible I have an erroneous conception of what these words mean, and if that's the case then at least now I've properly expressed myself.

>>61493221
>winning in that category isn't necessary for Vega
Oh boy it is. Halo sells the mainstream.

>>61493247
it wasn't necessary for Polaris to sell well. it's not necessary for Vega to sell well.

I'm not saying it's not important. it's just not vital.

>>61493273
for rational people it is not vital. however all i see is fanboys. so, in order to buttblast them, a halo product is necessary.

>>61480347
Maybe the competiton will force Nvidia to do something about their crappy drivers so something good might come out of the bullshit.

>She buttfucked intel, and will buttfuck nvidia in a few days
There's considerable difference in surpassing Intel who have been rebranding the same shit since 2011 and competing with Nvidia who actually make new technology. If anything it's AMD that needs to get dickslapped by Nvidia to stop they shitty Rebrandeon meme that has been going on since the 200 series.

>>61493732
>Nvidia who actually make new technology
Making GPUs is much much easier than making CPUs since you can throw moar hardware at the problem. Also
>new technology
Like what?

>>61493797
Goy-$ync
>Introduced paying for a chip to installed in a monitor when it could be done just as well in software for free
Gamewreck$
>introduced a 20% reduction in AMD's scores at the cost of 10% reduction in nvidia's (if the game even works)
Ph$yX
>introduced paying game developers for putting horrible effects that look worse than scripted sprites

>>61493975
Goysync is retarded, Vega will chew through goyworks fine so it's irrelevant and physx is more or less dead.
It's fucking nothing!

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>>61494011
They invented selling mid tier cards at high end prices

>>61487738
Where aren't 580s $500, they certainly are in the US right atm.

>>61493484
that's actually a fair point

>>61483727
[Insert dark knight speech]

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>>61483833
It did though, it was an unmitigated disaster, low sales huge development cost.

>>61486549
What do you mean? sure, stacked hbm dies are smaller, but gddr5x is cheap as shit and you get much better yields. you are still limited by the interposer size as well

When you think about a titan xp's 386 bit bus you can get better bandwidth with 2 stack hbm too.

There's not been a single good implementation of hbm from amd and there probably won't be a radeon group left if navi bombs

If aymd just stuck with gddr5/x and put that money into arch they might not have the literal 450w housefire that barely matches a 180w card they have now.

Yes I'm mad.

>>61493975
Gsync works very well in some situations where frame rates arn't stable.
Freesync doesn't work as well because it's a software solution vs a superior hardware solution.

Gameworks and physX are both junk
Crysis 3 was full of tesselation on objects that are inside maps for no other reason than to cripple AMD.

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>>61478912
Even nvidia knows this. That's why they've been branching out into other markets cause they know they can't keep getting away with rebrands and amd is changing the game and partnering up with more and more game devs.
Amds out for blood and we are just beginning to see the motions of their masterplan being put in place.

>>61496083
>FreeSync
>DP1.2a extension
>software solution
?

>>61496039
It's not about memory footprint.
It's about the die size.

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>>61480066
>>61486583
Lewds

>>61496243
elaborate.

>>61496416
Less motherfucking PHYs on die.
You need a fuckton of DDR PHYs for 384bit bus.

>>61481012
Fuck dude check your spelling I dont give a fuck if you're not a native speaker


Also latency matters dick when the throughput is massive.

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>>61496467
Nobody is wanting less DDR interfaces at the expense of heat, power and performance. fucking lmao. Aw god. that's funny.

It's a meme anon, wake up.

>>61496608
>heat, power and performance
>trades blows or smokes full GP102 at ~280watts
?

>>61496083
>Crysis 3 was full of tesselation on objects that are inside maps for no other reason than to cripple AMD.
That was Crysis 2
Crysis 3 tessellation was pretty much nothing

>>61497468
>>61496083
>tesselation
explain what happened here?

>>61497548
>AMD can't into tesselation
>Crysis 2 release
>Large amounts of useless/overkill tesselation
>Conclusion
>Corporate conspiracy 2: The Nvidia jew
Honestly no idea why to this day
My theory is stupid developers typing in wrong numbers for tesselation metrics cause I've done the same a countless number of times
>go to type 200.00 for the tesselation factor
>oops extra 0
>2000.00

>>61496616
don't try to argue with those retards, they think vega is broken on hardware level for games, but not on workstation tasks

>>61497638
What workstation task takes advantage of the gaming specific enhancements Vega supposedly has baked in? I'll wait.

>>61497832
creo 3.0. it is pure geometrical and vega fe beats quadro 6000 in that test.

>>61483809
I love that the guy is just wearing a polo, he dun give a flying fuck.

>>61484117

It was until they 'revised' their chart

really makes me think