/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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thanks for the help /g/, build is done, now waiting for the case to arrive.

New to all this. Is there a /g/ approved decent pc build for gaming for around £600-700? Wanna play ffxii decently. In UK

>>61434076
Isn't 85° a bit too high? I would go safe and set it at 75° imho.

>>61434102
isn't ffxii old? you can get a cheap ass i3 6100, a mobo that has an HDMI exit, and the integrated GPU of the i3 6100 would be more than enough.
use this: https://pcpartpicker.com/
if you want to play modern games please buy a ryzen 5 1600 at the very least. it will hold on well into the future.

>>61434181
haven't touched anything yet besides setting the xmp profile to 3200MHz (previously running 2133MHz). Thanks for the tip, anything else I should know? still pretty noob about the whole thing.

>>61434229
Whoops I meant ffxiv but it autocrrected as I've been playing the zodiac age recently too

Thanks for the help I'm a complete n00b

>>61434259
aha, that one might require a dedicated GPU. look up for a cheap GPU that has a 2GB memory.

>>61434102
I'm also building a pc for FFXIV. Only the GPU is missing and it will arrive this week, I already got all the other parts.
I'll report how it does.

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I've collected some benchmarks from different sites by the way, it could be a starting point in deciding what to choose, though in the end I ordered a 1050 Ti because everything else was overpriced due to the mining fad.

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>>61434370
The ideal choice for me was be GTX 1060 6GB, sadly too expensive right now.

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>>61434376
Last one. I really hope that GTX 1050 Ti lives up to my expectations.

stop posting outdated card benches, fucking hell

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>>61434402
Last 2 benchmakrs are outdated too?

>>61434347
>>61434358
>>61434370
isn't that pretty old

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>>61434428
yeah I was kinda desperate and considered even those older cards, but not surprisingly the good ones are also overpriced right now.

>>61434308
Please do!

>>61434305
Thanks anon will do

Currently on massive budget, tired of delaying the upgrade since better times won't come for ages now.
So, right now I have:
-shitty dirt cheap H61 motherboard straight outta 2011
-12 gb ram,
Core i3 2100 (upgrading to Xeon E3 1270)
Radeon HD 7770 (uprading to RX 570/1060/whatever comes next)
-
will this suffice for 1080p gaming for a few years at least? I don't mind lowering quality a bit, but not to eye cancer level.

Ordered all my parts.

R5 1600
Asrock B350M Pro 4
8Gb 3000mhz DDR4
250Gb SSD
500w PSU
Core V21 case

Am I missing anything?

Mind giving a list of what you ordered anon?

>>61434582
If you don't have a spare hard drive, 250GB is pretty small

>>61434590
Meant for
>>61434308

>>61434597

I'm planning to get a SSHD to go along with it soon. Also got a GTX 1050TI to go with it.

>>61434615
from op:
>Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
SSHD are a meme and prone to getting slow in a year. if you want cheap space so much then just go for a real hard disk

>>61434635
Well, he already has an SSD so he already has fast storage, but what he's lacking now is a very big storage which an HDD can provide very easily
Games take up a lot of space now, 250GB for AAA gaming is abysmal

>>61434635
It's not so much that I'm short on cash, more than I'm waiting to get paid first. If SSHDs are actually trash then I'll just get a regular HDD. From what I've seen for the prices of SSHDs they're only £20~ more expensive than a regular HDD so I thought "Why not?"

I need help. I installed a new video card, and when i boot it either turns on and black screens, or goes to a "press esc to open startup menu". I press Esc and i hear a soft beeping from my motherboard but nothing happens, and at regular intervals i get a louder short beep.

Some hardware info. I bought my whole new system except for ram. The old ram is ddr3 and its not supported by my new motherboard. So what i did was in the meantime install my old system in the new case, but put in the new video card. So hardware wise the video card is the only difference.

The motherboard is a shitty old foxconn from an HP prebuilt. My old gpu is a amd radeon hd6970, the new is a gtx 1080ti.
The "press esc for startup" thing is part of some shitty HP crap coded in the motherboard bios i think. The keyboard is cleary detected because of the short beeps, but unresponsive. The only thing i can imagine trying is plugging in my monitor to my motherboard video output and turning on integrated intel graphics. The problem is i currently don't have the vga or dvi cable for it. I only have an HDMI one and my motherboard doesn't.
I've tried installing the nvidia drivers but they won't install without the gpu plugged in.

Is there anything i can do? Other than waiting for my ram for my new mobo or trying with a cable that my mobo supports?

>>61434590
Some time ago I found a preassembled from a local store where I live, it cost 350€ and it has:
Intel Core i5 4460 3.2 GHz
Kingston 2x 4GB DDR3 800 MHz RAM
Asus H81M-A 1150 Motherboard
Kingston 120GB SSD
Seagate 2GB HDD
760W PSU
GeForce GT 630 2GB
Win7 Ultimate 64-bit

What I ordered is:
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB - 165€
Crucial MX300 525GB SSD - 140€

I want to install FFXIV in the new SSD because I think the HDD won't be good enough, at least not this Seagate 2TB.
The 120GB SSD is pretty much full already, can't use it for any new games.

>ordered VS PSU
>later find out its shit
fuck

>>61434582
yes, a gpu

>>61434837
Pretend it was stolen from your door when it was delivered if you don't need to sign it.
ez refund just tell them it says it's delivered but you haven't received it.

>>61434883
The thing is I already got it

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>>61434837
>>61434883
I wonder who could be behind this post...

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r8 my first time build.
I'm going for a black and white theme since pic related is my case. I may need to upgrade the MoBo to a B250M Mortar Arctic since the Asrock only has 2 chassis fan connecters while the case has 3. Also, is buying a 1x8gb kit right now and upgrading with the exact same model really that bad?

Unfortunately, Ryzen 3 is a few weeks away so I really have no choice but to wait until I pull the trigger on this one. Might go with that though but I just want to ask your opinion on this one.

>>61435207
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tssbgL
here it is (no case here because the case is not from a big brand)

>>61435207
Country? Flip?

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I'm thinking about buying a used Xeon workstation because I'm broke, but can I cool an old LGA2011 Xeon E5 1620/1650 with a regular Hyper 212 Evo or something like that?

And would it be better to buy something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Z420-Customisable-Eight-or-Quad-Core-Xeon-Up-to-32GB-RAM-Workstation-Win-10-/142303353588 and just put a GPU in it or buy the motherboard, CPU and RAM used and buy the case and PSU new? I already have a 500GB SSD I'm going to use.

The first option would be less hassle and probably cheaper if I just use the included generic PSU and motherboard but then I won't have much in the way of upgradability, but I don't know if I want to go for the second route either because I'm going to upgrade to a mATX Ryzen build when I stop being broke, so I won't have any use for the ATX case, motherboard and RAM when I upgrade.

Would it be the best to just go for the prebuilt route and then stick a HDD in it, keep the SSD and sell it when I upgrade to Ryzen?

>>61434521
>currently on massive budget
I don't think this means what you think it means

>Etherium slowly rising again
NOO

>>61435872
Buy the dip!

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Can a delidded i7 7740x clock higher than a delidded i7 7700k?
Assuming an adequate motherboard and nh-d15/240mm aio tier cooling with good paste?

If I buy a K series CPU, can I buy an heatsink for now and buy a liquid cooler later when I plan to OC it?

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>>61434347
That is the only justifiable reason to buy one. The 1050 is a good value, 560 a little less so unless you want freesync in which case great buy. If the market was all at msrp the 570/470 can usually be had for only slightly more money(assuming US) and it's way more powerful. Either way it's just a $150 GPU, not a big deal. Can just toss it on ebay or in your closet and grab like a 60 series GPU from nvidia's next gen.

>>61435910
I would advise against it. Some of the budget air coolers are totally fine for a moderate OC. Either go all out now on high end cooling for settle for optimal value. Look up review but the cryorig h7 can maintain the same 4.7ghz on a 6600k as I use my $100 AIO for. I could push the chip to 5ghz but the point is that for a fraction of the money you could have all you need really.
The only real reason to push a cpu as hard as you can in a gaming use case is for high refresh gaming. It directly translates to more fps in my games of choice.
Gammax 400, Cryorig h7, etc all do just fine. Again just check reviews.

>>61435910
What CPU are you planning to buy?

>>61435978
I don't intend to OC the CPU while I have the heatsink.
I will do that when I can get a liquid cooler.
>>61436054
i5 7600K

/v/ is making fun of Ryzen again!

>>61436080
I understand but I'm telling you that you can just buy a $40 air cooler and use a moderate OC no problem. Doesn't make sense to buy something now when $10-20 more will get you a good OC just to spend $100 later.

Can someone give me the rundown on Windows OS licenses?

I am building a PC for someone. Their current PC is running Windows 10 that got the free upgrade from Windows 7. Can I use that license or do they have to buy Windows 10?

>>61436098
I am planning on getting DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400 and found that it can get 60C max on 4.3GHz i5 6600K, is that good?

>>61436163
No you can't use that, you have to buy a new one.
You can still use the Windows 10 without having a licence

>>61436168
That's going to vary by the chip and also the 7600k can go past 60c safely no problem. Check out the Cryorig H7. I saw a review of the new LED version(same cooling as the cheap non-led one) running a 6600k at 4.7ghz no problem.

>>61436181
What did you mean by that second sentence?

>>61436192
When you buy W10 you get a code which you insert upon installation of it.
You can still install it and insert the code later when you can.

>>61436080
>i5 7600K
That's a pretty bad choice of a CPU.

>>61436189
Sadly my budget is pretty tight right now and I would have to downgrade something in order to get it.

>>61436217
I need single core performance for my tasks so AMD wouldn't work.

>>61436202
How long can I go without entering the code....?

>>61436229
Is that so? What exactly do you do?
Some photoshop stuff or other mostly singlethreaded software?
Why not get the much better 7700k if so? If your shit is actually so much singlethreaded heavy that a Ryzen would be less than ideal, then a 7700k might be very well worth it

>>61436219
Any specific reason you're going with the i5 over an r5? It doesn't make any sense to unless you're trying to do 144hz as cheaply as possible.
The r5 is way better for 60hz gaming and is also better at just about everything that isn't vidya. The r5 1600 comes with a stock cooler that will let you run it at like 3.6 or 3.7ghz which is plenty. Then in the future you could put nice cooling on it.
I don't think the i5 is a good choice for you on such a tight budget unless you are very specifically building a machine for high refresh rates.

>>61436235
There is no limitation.

>>61436235
Literally forever you just lose the wallpaper and personalization options. You can also just install Windows 7, crack it, and then use the assistive technology upgrade and it will become legit windows 10.
The other two options are buying a key from like reddit or kinguin/g2a or just straight up cracking it with Microsoft Toolkit.

>>61436229
Still a bad time to get a 4 core. If you must buy now, try to get an i7. Wait until Intel releases its next gen line up...

>>61435897
isn't 7740x practically the same thing on a different socket?
Why even bother when HEDT motherboards are more expensive than your typical Z270 ones?

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>>61436254
>>61436266
Interesting!

>>61436249
>>61436250
>>61436279
To keep it short, I am playing a badly optimised MMORPG which flavours Single Core performance and i5 7600K has been proven to be excellent, for example any AMD CPU would perform around 50% worse than the i5 and the i7 7700K does not have that much difference from i5 7600K in terms of performance for that game, plus the price isn't that pretty for me either.

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>>61436288
Only care about it clocking as high as possible. 1-200 more on the motherboard is no problem if it gives an extra 200mhz on the OC. I also have no problem returning a few chips until I get a decent one. It's a pretty specific use case.
The reason I ask is some fag on youtube did a half assed review on it and said after delidding he got it stable at 5.3ghz with out much work which makes me think that it can clock slightly higher than the 7700k. I think the chips are physically bigger which may help thermals ever so slightly and that the x299 boards are better at pushing the clock higher.
I don't give a single fuck about not being able to use the extra features of the motherboard. If the 7740k can't clock higher I'll get the 7700k, if it can I'll get it and the cheapest mobo that will work. Only plugging in one GPU and SATA storage.
In like 5 years I'll probably sell the 7740k and pick up a higher core count skylake-x used from ebay but I am completely indifferent about that. Only care about which chip can clock higher.

>>61434714
Ok so i activated integrated graphics in bios. I plugged in the new video card. My monitor is plugged in to the gpu. The screen was black. I entered my password blind and logged in. Suddenly the screen turns on and it looks normal.
I have a tray icon saying that intel graphics is enabled. I tried installing nvidia drivers. I restart and turn off integrated graphics.
I get a screen telling me to press esc to enter startup menu. The keyboard doesn't register. I restart and the screen is totally black.
I don't know what the fuck is going. How the fuck do i get my new gpu to work?

>>61436288
>isn't 7740x practically the same thing on a different socket?
That's essentially it, except the process has been enhanced a tiny bit more making it reach a little bit higher clocks... and as a result it thermal throttles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47a_iyZ9nmI

But nah, they don't clock much higher even if delidded. 200MHz at the very best.

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>>61436357
Please be removing dis

>>61436365
fuck off shitposters

So since the GPUs are out of stock and I will have to wait for them to restock it and send it, what gayms can I use the integrated graphics on?
From what I know OW can reach 50 fps with some settings fiddling.
Anything else?

>>61436357
Alright 200mhz is enough to justify it for me. Thank you. Now to find the best value motherboard.
It's going in a custom loop with a 1080ti and two extra thick 360mm radiators with good fans(haven't decided which yet, maybe noctua industrials or a gentletyphoon clone). Hopefully no thermal issues.

>>61436349
>>61436379
well, if you want to do so. There's one thing though, x299 mobos might either support kaby-x (dual channel memory only, less lanes) or support SKL-X (quadch memory, more pcie lanes and some other fireworks), so that's one thing you need to look out for.
Asus already released some top-of-the-line mb while claiming that it won't support KBL-X anyway.

I swear, intel's stuff this year is such a shitshow.

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>>61436370
dun cry bby

Should I wait for Black Friday to make a GTX 1060 build???

>>61436388
Oh really? Thanks man I didn't know about that all. I'm about to start looking for the board.
I know I'm a huge fag and should buy a r7 but the build is specifically for a high hz monitor. Going with ridiculous high clocked ram too because im a moron.

>>61436379
>Alright 200mhz is enough to justify it for me.
That's at the very best. Gamernexus only reached 100MHz more (5.0 GHz vs 5.1) with his 7740x, and both were delidded
Why do you value MHz that much? I know the MMO you play is horribly optimized but christ, you're gonna pay a fuckton more with that x299 i5

>>61436416
MMORPG players are some of the dumbest fuckers on Earth

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>>61436410
I never said you'd be better off with R7 anyway. If you settled on getting X299 HEDT build then just go straight for the 7800X or 7820X with all their cons, but you'll be delidding anyway. 7800x looks like a great deal to me (I mean, just after ryzen)

Will amazon refund me if I say my all my packages were stolen?

>>61436478
Did you sign upon delivery?

>>61436478
I have the same question, they delivered my DDR4 ram without any interaction, what if I say it never arrived?

>>61436478
>>61436555
Maybe but they will eventually ban you as a buyer if you pull this shit repeatedly

>>61435518
yah. funny how flips are common here.

>>61436444
who said anything about MMORPG

>>61436582
Kek. Thought the case was familiar. My friend was planning on getting it from DFE.

>>61436416
I'm not that guy. That's someone else talking about an i5. I have a 240hz 1080p monitor and a 165hz 1440p monitor that I use interchangeably depending on the game and I want the machine to have the highest possible FPS right now today without any concern for what future optimizations might bring as I rarely play new games. Even though I'm paying a shit load for that little bit more performance I can (thank god) afford it. The couple hundred just isn't a huge deal as I live alone, have a good job, and if I'm not at work I'm on the PC.
This is a quick and dirty list nothing is 100% yet https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PPc6zM

>>61436455
I know you didn't I was just acknowledging that I'm aware the r7's are a much better value.

No fancy liquid cooling, gaymer GPU or Ryzen here. Just looking for a basic shitposting machine that will be cool, quiet and not break the bank.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HFpjxY
>Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.
pcpp is GOAT for first time builders

>>61436655
No meme case/10

Which is better - arctic mx4 or the one that comes with noctua coolers?

>>61436766
About the same

>>61434706
Just get a couple cheap HDDs and throw them in a RAID 0 array.

>>61436649
Consider an NVME SSD.
You are going all out as it is, no reason to go budget on your fast storage.

>>61436455
>7800x looks like a great deal to me
No, it's not. There is no point in 7800x being hedt - you have to buy expensive mothetboard, but pcie lanes count barely better than 1151 or ryzen, quad memory means jackshit for 6/12, it's worse in gaems than broadwell-e. If you want intel, you should go with at least 7820 or wait for 6/12 coffee lake.

>>61436655
>
That Intel stock cooler made my sides go into space

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Thinking I may just do AIO cooling. It's so much easier and cheaper. Takes 5 seconds to set up.
>>61436847
I mean, I like them, but isn't there absolutely no noticeable difference for boot times, game launch times, etc? If there is I'll definitely just grab a 960 evo but I keep reading that there is not.

>>61436896
There's not. Regular SSDs are fast enough to move the bottleneck for small loads to the CPU instead of storage. Windows can't even complete a full circle spin while booting with my SSD. There's just no improvement possible because the ~gigabyte of data to be read loads in roughly a second on a SATA connection. You'll only see a difference when massive amounts of data need to be read/written at once, like in video and photo editing. It's like driving a Ferrari or an Acura a few blocks to work. Yeah the Ferrari is a lot faster, but it won't make a difference.

>>61437026
this, my cpu bottlenecks my sata ssd on startup everytime, but if you have a really fast cpu the bottleneck goes back to the ssd

I have a 1060 and recently got a 144hz monitor. As such, I want to upgrade my gpu to something that can reliably run most games at 144fps on high settings at 1080p. I was thinking of getting a 980ti but would it be worth spending the extra for a 1070? 8gb Vram seems overkill.

>>61436896
Weigh the pros/cons of AIOs compared to just air.

>>61437127
Even if it does bottleneck, an SSD is only ever going to take 2-3 seconds max to load an OS. Even installing Windows, which I was prepared to take 45 minutes for, finished in less time than it took me to put my shoes on to walk out the door.

>>61437201
loading the OS alone is one thing, if you have anything else starting up along with it, the bottleneck gets a lot more noticeable

>>61437128
Sell me your 1060 and put the money towards a 1070/80

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>>61436896
NVME matters in large file reads and writes. Writing a 10GB file to SATA is very slow compared to NVME. If your concern is only loading a game it's not noticeable, but there are times in general usability that the fast speeds come to the fore.

Is Optane Memory worth if you only have a HDD?

>>61437609
It's main benefit is that you don't have to bother with managing what should be on the ssd and what should be on the hdd. If you're comfortable manually managing it it's kind of pointless, just get the biggest sata ssd you can afford. Even a $50 120gb is nice for your most used software and windows.

Question:
If you install unlicensed W10 can you still use the free W10 Assist Technology Update while having Win 10 Already?
If not is there a way to go to W7 on 7th gen CPU to free upgrade W10 Assist Technology?

>>61437741
Fair enough, will skip it for now, thanks.

So AMD beats Intel in games as soon as anything else like a web browser is running in the background?

>>61438001
that's kind of exaggerated but yes

I caught myself wanting to do two cpu heavy tasks at the same time and not being able to, which is something that wouldn't have been an issue on a 6 or 8 core cpu

>>61433979
R8 my free as in freedom workstation build.

Motherboard:
ASUS KFSNF-DRE - 100$ on ebay

Ram:
16 GB of DDR2 ECC memory - 20$ on ebay

CPUs:
AMD Opteron 4365 - 11$ a peice on ebay

CPU cooler:
Generic socket 7 heatsink - 8$ a peice on ebay

PSU:
Evega 500w PSU - 40$ on amazon

Case:
Not sure. I will probally have to get a large case and modifiy it and get some zip ties. - 50$

GPU:
GTX 750ti - 70$ on ebay

Case Fans:
All ready have a few lying around. - 0$

HDD:
All ready have a 250 GB SDD. 1 TB HDD - 43$

Any edits I should make?

>>61438116
Well, I guess I'd have to ask at what point something really constitutes as CPU heavy.

>>61438239
YouTube, VLC, shitty IEs, second games, unoptimised audio players, Skype, etc

Personally I want a Ryzen because I skype, play OW and between finding games have DD running as a "while I wait" game. My i5 stutters hard when I have all that going

>>61438132
You're never free

>>61438267
Its a librebootable workstation.

Would it be a good idea to swipe the GPU (GTX 670) from my family's old PC and pop it into my aging PC (also 670) and run the two in SLI?

>>61438267

If freedom is, then how is never defined when one is therefore determined a part of never, being inevitably biased which is a contradiction with freedom to be.

>>61438358
Same

>>61438257
Yeah, I should probably get a Ryzen as well in that case. What about GPU's, is AMD better at dealing with multi screen setups or is that purely a VRAM thing? What should be the deciding force in picking one over another?

>>61438340
can your mobo even run sli

>>61438239
when I'm running something on a virtual machine I get terrible stuttering on games for example, so basically something that uses more than 50% of a quad core cpu

>>61438390
are you planning on gaming on 3 screens or just general multitasking? if the former you need a lot of vram and a good overall gpu, is the latter, you could slap a really cheap gpu with lots of ports for additional video outputs if you need them or just use the other ports on your current gpu

>>61438394
It can. I have a 650 watt PSU. I think I'm good to go.

>>61438483
No your mother must be set to be able to run SLI by the manufacturing company.

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16817198059
Anyone ever use this? Looking to add a couple hdd's and take out the existing hard drive cage in my case to improve airflow.
I'd swap the fan out.

>>61438453
Well, wouldn't I want an at least good GPU for 1080p gaymen at consistent framerates?

>>61438132
>KFSNF-DRE
Phenom II is way too old dude. At least get a opteron 62xx with ddr3

>>61438727
I can't figure out how to libreboot the newer Motherboards like the D16.

>>61438724
you can slap a fast gpu for your 1 monitor gaming, and if you need a fuckton of extra video outputs for other stuff, you can slap weaker gpus alongside (DON'T enable sli/crossfire) for the additional ports

if you don't need more than 4/5 video outputs just connect all the monitors to your gpu and have fun, only on 3 monitor gaming you'd need more vram and computing power

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Just bought pic related. Should arrive in a couple of days,

It was the only 1060 at a not so retarded price available in the market. The name of the brand literally translates to "enthusiast oriented".

I hope it doesn't catches fire, wish me luck.

>>61438827
Oh I wasn't really looking for a multi monitor setup, it's just me wondering if that's a draw to go AMD instead of Nvidia, or whether that's purely a question of VRAM.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4RNm8

what do you think of the build and what is wrong with it

Replacing the thermal paste on a cpu is easy but I'm deathly afraid of fucking things up attempting to replace thermal paste/pads/etc on my gpu.

Any tips /g/?

>>61438905
All that money. Why are you cheaping out on a ryzen 5 1500x?

I need a new GPU. Should I wait to see what Vega is like? Should I wait until the mining craze starts dying down?

My current one is dying, but it's still in working order for now.

>>61438963
i dont really need more cores than that

>>61439001
What about gaming? You got your self a killer gpu

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>>61438513
Can this one?

>>61439095
Too lazy to check.
Here http://www.nvidia.com/object/sli-ready-motherboards.html

>>61439095
Nope

>>61436478
If you didn't sign for them, then most likely. Until the packages are literally in your hands, it's the sellers responsibility. Shitty people do this regularly.
If you're a real scumbag and you have an account with a long history, you could buy a ridiculous rig, have it all delivered in one group, then simply say it was never delivered and request a refund out of a lack of faith.

Amazon will scrutinize every dispute you make from that point forward and may remove your ability purchase items or blacklist cards with your name on it if you attempt it again, but you won't care because you now have 3 free 1080ti's.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2HXQV
Is there another GPU for ~300-350 that is better than the ASUS GTX 1060 dual?

Australia
X99 cpu halp pls
Got an x99 gigabyte mobo for El cheapo. I figure x99 would last well into the Era of ddr5. Interested in mix.

E5 1620 v4 QS : taobao 200 aud, 300 for new. (I'd have to ask for pics as extensive research on little info suggests it might work as QS may be ES2. I'd have to pm sellers.

5820k : maybe 250 aud to 400 aud

6800k: 499 aud

>>61439136
Fug :(

Going for a budget build with a G4560, should I pay the extra buck for a B150 motherboard or just go with a H110 chipset? The ASUS I'm interested in with the B150 has more features and ports than the H110 Gigabyte, but I'm not sure if I'm going to use most of the features, and the ports will be left hanging, so is there any point or advantage to go with the B150 board?

The boards are the ASUS B150M-C and the Gigabyte GA-H110M-A, I don't live in the US, so links to other boards with better prices there won't be useful, I already did the research here and these are the cheapest ones around.

>>61438905
Get a G2 or G3 power supply, bump up to a Ryzen 1600. What are you doing for storage and why 6 case fans?
I'd get a 1440p monitor to go with that gpu unless you just really want to hit 144 fps.

>>61436348
>any AMD CPU would perform around 50% worse than the i5

doubt

>>61439659
Keep in mind you'll need an older CPU to flash the H110 mobos up to the newest BIOS so they'll recognise the G4560. If the place you're buying it from will do it for you, go for it, but others I recommend paying up the extra $$$ to save yourself the headache and have something that works from unboxing.

>>61439704
Taken out of the context sure, however if you saw what I fully wrote then it is true.

>>61439737
I'm going to buy from one of those DIY combos that comes with CPU, motherboard and ram, I already asked the store and yes, they do it for you, so I don't need to worry about that.

The B150 I'd have to buy each part though, since I could only find it in a different store, is there any point in buying the B150 then?

>>61439659
>>61439903
how much? Ryzen 3 next month will make all 2 cores obsolete except for dwarf fortress and emulating old games...

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/G6GB3F

rate my build /g/

>>61439932
define old games

>>61440027
the ones you emulate, dipshit

>>61440036
you can emulate ps3 by now you nigger, that old?

>>61440027
As in N64 and down emulators.

>>61440046
are you mentally challenged? i did not specify an age, that means any age which includes old non-threaded shit.

fucking retard

are itx ryzen builds a thing?
wondering what kinda heat output it has

thinking of building that streacom itx thing

also how is ryzen compatibility with linux rn? heard some shit
lookin to run arch

>>61439963
>£735.44 for several year old dual core shit
this has to be bait

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$500 for this combo. How good/bad of a deal is it?

Idk anything about the X series, but a 7700k is $300 + $150 mobo so it's about the same cost.

>>61440164
post the fucking model names in text form you nigger

>>61434243
what ram did you get?

>>61439932
>next month
*next week
It launches July 27

>>61439932
The Ryzen series doesn't have integrated graphics does it? I don't know how my monetary situation will be in the future, and it isn't looking well, but in case my VGA breaks I'd rather have integrated graphics for future proofing.

My budget is about 300 dollars, I'm only going to buy to buy a new CPU, ram and motherboard, because my current one is really finicky already, so I thought it would be better to just change everything.

>>61440182
Sorry

Intel Core i7-7740X Quad-Core 4.3 GHz LGA 2066 112W BX80677I77740X Desktop Processor (Model:BX80677I77740X)

MSI X299 SLI PLUS LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard (Model:X299 SLI PLUS)


https://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P5_3571314-_-07182017&Index=5

>>61440233
there are plenty of dirt cheap $15-20? integrated tier cards that exist and they sell them at best buy

>>61440233
>integrated VGA is future proofing
no. just buy some old fucking gpu for $20 instead and put in your closet.
and there are AMD CPUs with integrated graphics coming soon.

>>61440256
the whole point of the intel X299 chipset is workstation and high-end enthusiasts.
it's a huge waste of money if you have to ask if you should buy it.

and intel is shit tier value (performance per dollar) right now

what's the earliest gen intel integrated that had 4k60 output support? that's skylake right?

>>61440164
$470 ~ vs $500~ for worse performance (or very, very slightly better if you delid and overclock) is not worth at all
Why do you need a 7700k in the first place?

Which one of these should I buy?
>inb4 buy a thinkpad
I was going to but due to the faggotry of the stores near me I can't.

>Dell inspiron 3567
Processor : Intel® Core™ i3-5005U Processor (3M Cache, 2.00 GHz)
Memory : 4GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600MHz
Storage : 1TB, HDD 5,400 RPM
Video : Intel® HD Graphics 620

>Lenovo Ideapad 110
Processor: Intel® Core™ i3-6006U Processor (3M Cache, 2.00 GHz)
Memory : 4.0GB DDR4 2133 ONBOARD
Storage : 1TB HDD 5,400 RPM
Video : Intel HD Graphics 520

Help me out
Im not much into gaming(literally the only game I play is EU4 , I know the obvious answer is the Lenovo but since laptops are full of faggotry I wanna know which company is more efficient.

>>61440370
what is the price of them and your budget

>>61440322
>>61440303

I just want to shitpost on 4chin, and moderately play games and not have to upgrade for a long time.

Currently running the i5 2320 and it's lasted me this long so I figured a i7 series would last even longer.

I don't really want Ryzen on the off chance my GPU shits out on me and I have no integrated graphics, and I don't really need all those cores.

>>61440233
>The Ryzen series doesn't have integrated graphics does it?
nope. You my want to wait for the public release of the Raven Ridge APUs then, or the coming Ryzen 3 based APUs

>>61438861
That's a KFA2/Galax.
They're pretty good.

>>61440402
no it's fucking terrible price/performance.

and you can just get an old used GPU like two of us already told you, dipshit.

>>61440402
>not have to upgrade for a long time.
>don't really need all those cores
I'm seeing mixed messages right here
You're not gonna futureproof your build by getting a 4 cores CPU in 2017

>>61440478
this

>>61440478
Ok. I just felt like Ryzen was being shilled super hard here. I honestly know nothing about them. Last time I was here i5 2500k was the only thing being shilled and now I see people saying i5's are shit.

I've just been out of the loop for a while.

>>61440394
Both the same price in my country(362$)
And that's the maximum I can go for ..

what's a cheap af card that can output 4k60 but not for gaming

>>61440580
because Ryzen is really good value for the customer.
it's more cores and threads for cheaper and only a few % slower per core performance.

>>61440598
get the i5 then if there isnt any other laptops to choose from

>The delivery company which will deliver my CPU has 1.1 out of 5 star rating on Google.
>Multiple people complaining that their package went missing or is damaged.
help

>>61440640
So 1700 or 1600?

>>61440670
stop living in a 3rd world country

Buying a laptop today, shill me your meme pad. I was thinking of a t420 with a quad chip but I cant find anything good on ebay and amazon is expensive as fuck. Save me bros.

>>61440690
I live in Londonistan actually.

>>61440670
Where did you buy your GPU from? Who doesn't use fedex or UPS to ship things.

>>61440678
1700 if you can afford it

>>61440701
Its CPU not GPU, and its from UK called "Yodel" which almost everyone here knows its absolute shite.

>>61440678
Don't listen to these faggots. i7 > Any Ryzen

the 1700 is only 3.0 hz

>>61440728

Ah yodel, AKA Home Delivery Network.

A company so famously shit it has to change its name every few years to try and hide its reputation.

>>61440791
Yeah well I hope I can do a chargeback on my card for the money.

>>61440781
>muh niggahertz
>>>/v/

>>61440815
breh, the company is responsible, if they dont deliver you get your money back from either them or the place you bought it from if you make a fuss about it. or is your legal system shit?

>>61440859
I found this:
Under the Consumer Rights Act, when you buy goods from an online retailer, they are responsible for the goods until you receive them. So if the courier loses the goods you ordered or they are damaged, the retailer is responsible for putting things right, not the courier.

So I can just do a chargeback and be done incase of missing/damaged package.

>>61440894
even if you cant chargeback they have to give you money back or replace the goods

>>61440842
Hey fagglord this is a computer building general for all types of computers for stupid people. Anyone in here is not looking for a work station for encoding. They probably want to play games.

>>61440955
Yeah hopefully I am luck and don't have to deal with all that.

>>61440976
so why are you implying ryzen isnt good for games when it does almost as good as intel for less money ?

only buy intel if you want to spend twice as much money for 10% more FPS

Why buy Nike when you can buy Walmart Brand shoes right? They both protect your feet.

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>>61441121

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First time building a PC. I unboxed my Ryzen 5 1600 and noticed some dust debris on the area of the wraith cooler covered with thermal paste. I tried to use my finger nail to scrape the dust off, but ended up taking some thermal paste off with it. Pic related. Will it fry my CPU?

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>>61441121

>>61441176
see >>61441180
then gtfo and never come back

>>61441196
>person asks a question
>lol look my twitter reaction gif and gtfo xDD
Shitposter go and stay go.

Bought an used 3770k paired with CM 212x for quite cheap a few months ago, but the temps seems quite high.I can't really overclock because will go 80+ ºC in P95 and almost in intensive gaming with a small overclock (4.2ghz) , stock around 60s. Already reseat cooler and changed thermal paste but same thing. Undervolting helps a bit but not by much... I guess delid is my only option?

>>61441176
yes you've decreased the thermal conductivity by about 5% it looks like, the engineers designed the coolers and amount of pre-applied thermal paste very specifically, altering these runs the risk of damaging your system

>>61440696
Please

>>61441262
overclocking much farther won't really get you much of a performance increase, don't bother

>>61441180
>>61441144

not an argument

How does overclocking RAM work even?

I have 2 kingston savage here. I noticed that my "new" motherboard has overclocking settings up the wazoo, but my processor is a 4460, so no overclocking that.

If I have an Ivy Bridge i5 3570k and a GTX 670 could I upgrade the GPU alone (to a 1070) and still have a good gaming machine? Big improvement?

>>61441176
just wipe it clean off and apply with your leftover tube of mx4 or whatever, it's not a big deal

What's the lowest-TDP recent AMD CPU?

Is high speed RAM worth it?, thing is I have 16gb of hyperx fury 2133mhz RAM and very often I find myself in the need for more so I was wondering in getting a second 16gb kit for 32gb in total or if I should sell my current kit and buy 32gb of faster memory.

Use case scenario is graphic and industrial design

Premiere pro, after effects, illustrator, Indesign, photoshop, autocad, 3DS max design, rhino, keyshot, chrome with about 80 tabs opened across 3 or 4 windows.

>>61441416
Yes.
You will need to overclock to prevent the bottleneck.

Trying to build a PC for my sister. She plays skyrim, fallout 4, etc.

I tried to keep it around 500$.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nj9hpb

I'm giving her my old 7970Ghz, and we're cannibalizing the old 2007 Gateway hard drive and SSD so we don't need those. Both of those drives are basically brand new.

I really skimped on the PSU, case, and ram.

Anyone have any improvements? I'm thinking a little faster ram. I was thinking the r5 1400 but the extra few dollars for the 1600 was just too good to pass up.

>>61441308
What damage? I think I may have smeared some of mine attaching it to the board because it required so much force, but my temps are fine.

>>61441653
>Generic PSU bundled with case
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
Find something tier 3 or up from this list.

>>61441475
sometimes.

>>61441653
good apart from RAM, get at least 3000MHz
pirate windows and use that money on parts instead.
also see: >>61441759

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what do you say doctor /g/

first time building a PC. Any advice on my current list? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QR8Tcc

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Is there any reason for why I shouldn't buy a used HP Z420 workstation with a Xeon E5 1620, 500 GB HDD and 16GB DDR3 RAM for £338 and plop a GPU in it?

I already have a 500GB SSD I'll use, I just don't see the point in buying a PC new unless you have at least £700 / $800 bucks for a 1600 and GTX1060/580 build. Buying a dual core desktop CPU in 2017 is fucking retarded and the Ryzen 5 1400 is on the weaker side and prioritizes energy efficiency over performance.

>>61441804
>7700k and overkill cooler on a motherboard that doesn't even support overclocking
Why?

Why do people on any low or mid tier budget buy windows? You can save 100 bucks by just not registering it and all you lose is some customization options your desktop has a small watermark in the bottom corner

>>61434076
I would go for a more aggressive fan curve and also undervolt the CPU to save some power and make it run cooler
t. 100% fan speed at 60C because autism

>>61434582
What PSU?

>>61441949
>buying windows
activators exist

>>61441809
- get faster ram
- pick evga supernova g2/g3 instead
- full tower is probably an overkill, mid tower would be enough
- get monitor with an IPS panel if you're going for 60hz
- don't pay for windows unless you like getting ripped off
- warning: that hitachi from amazon for 66$ is REFURBISHED. you could pick toshiba/seagate instead.
- don't forget to delid :^)

>>61441176
Don't worry about it
Worst case scenario, temps go up by 1C

>>61441804
you need z270 mobo.
personally i wouldn't buy kingston ssd for shit they pulled off in the past. adata, sandisk, crucial are good alternatives

>>61442023
full tower is nice only if it looks nice and you live in your own house or a roomy apartment

>>61442021
I know. But plenty of people in these threads discuss buying windows/budget it in their build

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Just finished my ryzen 1700x build. CPU shows idle temp of only 18C. That doesn't seem right. Isn't that too low?

>>61442048
>6 internal 3.5" bays
>he will use 2 of them AT MOST
i don't see a point.

>>61441809
Get Ryzen
Drop the watercooler
Get an IPS screen
Get fast RAM

>>61442082
check cpu temp in bios & update it if it's still too low.

>>61442062
that they do so should tell you a number of things about the people that are now frequenting /g/ and thus the state of /g/
they don't know any better

are there any hypothetical 1950x threadripper builds out there to browse for kicks?

Any comments on my list? I want to keep around 900€.If you guys think I should add/take something I will appreciate it.

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/cw7YFd

Also, any tips for a monitor? Mostly movies but games too (not a hardcore gamer though).

Thx

>>61442104
I used gigabyte' s hardware monitor in widows to check the temperatures. BIOS shows the same temperature. I already flashed BIOS to the newest version. Even under load it doesn't go above 30C

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>>61433979
I have a PC that can definitely run 4k games, and I want to get a second monitor. Is a 4k monitor worth the extra money? If not, I'm just going to get a dupe of my current monitor which only costs about $140 and I've had 0 issues with. I figure for a decent 4k one, I'll be going a little over double that price, and I'm willing to spend the money, if it's really worth it.

So how much better is 4k than my current 1920x1080?

>>61442167
BIOS shows the real temps
if you're measuring load on windows use HWmonitor to check temps
fire up an emulator and play a game or use the dolphin emulator benchmarking tool

>>61433979
Is it worth upgrading my i5-4460 to a Ryzen 5 1500?

>>61442213
going from a 4c/4t to a 4c/8t now? not worth it, r5 1600 would be a better upgrade

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>>61438001
Pretty much.

>>61442213
depends on what you do.

>>61442163
i would pick asrock mobo, but other than that it's solid.

>>61442163
IPS screens are great
And I would get 16GB RAM
Otherwise the build seems fine to me

>>61442266
corelet

>>61442210
ill try that, thanks. I might be wrong but even with water cooling 18C idle in BIOS seems a bit low to me.

>>61442213
Not worth.
Better to stick an i7 in your current rig. At least then you keep your RAM and mobo.

>>61438001
>>61438239
>>61438257
both cpus suffer performance loss when you have other applications running, in case of ryzen it's not as bad.
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1PjNtkFtHc

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>>61442277
>I might be wrong but even with water cooling 18C idle in BIOS seems a bit low to me.
If it's real I envy you.

>>61442308
There was that faggot who was rendering a video + watching a 4k video + refreshing a browser constantly + playing overwatch and had a smoother experience on Ryzen compared to his previous intel build.

I have waited for too long, should have bought a GPU during spring time.

That mining craze won't slump down, this I can tell you.

The GPU market for the normal consumer is fucked up and will be fucked up beyond repair for unknown time.

The GPU manufactures could do something about it, but they won't. Why should they, when they can sell all their stuff with 50%+ profit?
Vega won't change shit in that regard.

Consoles are starting to look more and more attractive if you want to play some games.

>>61441863
AMD Threadripper.

>>61442357
>more cores is better for multitasking
no shit

>>61442359
prices will go down in less than 3 months. this has already happened before.

>>61442362
not them.

but how good will threadrippers single core performance be?

>>61442359
>Consoles are starting to look more and more attractive if you want to play some games.
A 1050 ti can still beat PS4 or Xbone [spoiler]dont know about the XB1X[/spoiler] and is fairly reasonably priced

>>61442385
>prices will go down in less than 3 months.
Why do you not sell your incredible knowledge of the future, o swami?
>>61442402
We don't know what TR performance numbers will be. You should wait to see the reviews. There will still be used Xeons to buy at that time.

>>61442441
I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN OVERKILL CPU FOR GAYMEN

>>61442023
updated list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gWRs4C

what is are the alternatives to buying windows?

>>61442456
TR 12 core is $800. 16 core is $1000.
Intel's getting massacred.
When you see garbage mainstream OEMs like Alienware making something like the Area-51 with TR in it, you know shit is going down.

>>61442540
I know right. My penis is getting very hard for threadripper anon my penis is hard!

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>>61442519
Download Pro iso from MS. Home is garbage.
Download Microsoft Toolkit from MDL. MDL also has Enterprise and LTSB somewhere. Check hash to make sure downloaded activator is the same software as hosted on MDL.
Pic related, when I used to use windows 10.

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>>61442540
>a factory overclocked TR*
Alienware doing something right for once

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I need some help guyse
Currently I have a i5 2400.. a friend of mine os offering me his i7 2600.
The problem is, I was looking to change all of my set up for a ryzen 1600
I can get the I7 pretty cheap.. What do I do?

>>61442647
you become my girlfriend.

[spoiler]ryzen[/spoiler]

Are mechanical keyboards worth 3 times the price?
Rgb mechanical keyboard 55$ membrane keyboard 20$ (i am going to use the extra money for a better gpu)

>>61442269
>depends on what you do.

Gaems

>>61442678
30$ more won't give you a much better gpu. if you're budget just get membrane. you can always buy a mechanical keyboard later

i5 7600k or i7 7700k?
No, I don't want to change my mobo, just need a 1151 cpu.

>>61442722
just go all in 7700k

>>61442712
just check benchmarks with games you actually play. you probably won't notice a big fps difference in singlethreaded games like csgo, lol, dota etc.

>>61442647
How much will the i7 cost? No cooler required for it or anything? Just free?

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>>61442188
blease resbond

>>61442800
hello autism boi

that answer is subjective for yourself. I would not personally get a 4k because I like higher refresh rates. Maybe you have autism over high resolutions and colors and contrast.

I don't know man you be yourself.

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>get a cheap korean 1440p screen
>graphics card die
>cryptofags ruining the prices
>1440p gaming on intel HD grqphics
>summer without games

>>61442868
rip in peace anons

>>61442647
How much, and what do you want to do with your computer?

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>>61442868
>tfw have been waiting since 14th June for Amazon to restock a GPU and send it to me.

>>61442800
It depends on you. If you are the type of person that worships resolution get a 4k screen. But if you want something that benefits you get an UltraWide screen if you mostly play games or get two screens of the same model you currently have if you do a lot of multitasking

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I haven't built a gaming PC in like 5 years. Budget $5-7k. I'm sure I did a bunch of stupid shit, please help.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GX8Tcc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GX8Tcc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3GHz 10-Core Processor ($1061.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.15 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X299-E GAMING ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($349.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($768.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($178.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - WD VelociRaptor 1TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($138.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($804.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($804.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair - 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($349.99 @ Corsair)
Optical Drive: LG - UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($764.87 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech - G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard ($81.96 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset ($96.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $5947.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-18 17:01 EDT-0400

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Is GTX 670 still a nice card? I might get it for 85$. Mainly for not very demanding/older games.

The 24 pin connector seems to be really stiff and won't go all the way into the socket on the motherboard.

Yes it's the right way around.

Should I just push it harder? I don't want to break anything.

>>61442966
Get Threadripper isntead.

>>61442966
>7900x
Performs worse than a 7700k
>64GB DDR4
huh
>2x 1080t, 1200w PSU
alright this is just bait
>gaming headset
nice

>>61442966
how does it feel that you'll spend 6k and get marginally better performance than someone who spent 1.3k

>>61442868
i pray each day that cryptocurrency will crash and ebay will be flooded with $100 1080s

>>61442986
You see that motherfucking plastic clasp on the side of the connector? Does it fucking snap into place on the motherboard connector? If it doesn't, push nigga, push.

>>61442966
>Budget $5-7k
You can build 14 gayming PCs for this money.

Is watercooling RAM a meme?

>>61442966
7k budget?
Either get R7 1800 or wait for Threadripper 1950X, it's coming out this August.
Check PSU if it's rebranded from either Seagate or superflower. If not, get Seagate.
And you forgot the fucking POPTARTS.

>>61442362
I wouldn't be looking at buying a system like this if I had cash to buy new, Threadripper will start at like $800 and if I had that amount of cash I'd just buy a 1600/1060 system. The E5 can be had for like £40-50 with basically the same performance as the Ryzen 1500X.

>>61442966
This is quite the computer.
Switch out your 850 EVO for a 960 PRO.

>>61442405
No it cannot, you huge pc masterrace faggot.

The PS4 Pro has a GPU equivalent to a RX480.

>>61442966
I dunno if trident will fit with DH15?

I think you need better cooling for that CPU

>>61443008
It does not crash, are you retarded?
If one crashes, a new one will emerge.

Also with the value goes down, people will invest and it goes up again.

that 6k build is a bait
don't give him (you)s retards

>>61443121
how good will that pc perform in muh gayms

>>61443064
One reason I wouldn't buy that.
Hewlett-Packard. Fuck that company.

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I want to sell my PC so I can build a new one in a mini itx case. How much do you guys think I should sell it for? The parts are:
i5 6500
Cryorig H7
Some gigabyte micro atx mobo
Zotac gtx 1060 3gb
250gb Samsung 850 ssd
2tb WD black hdd
650w gold evga PSU
Fractal design mini c w/window
Tp link wifi card
I was thinking around $800 but I felt like I was being too much of a jew.

>>61443160
tree fiddy

>>61443160
hmm

Id giv u bout *sucks lips*

TREE FIFFDY

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What should I do for optimal airflow?

>>61443135
It's one of the only listings I've found that actually lists what PSU the PC have and it comes with either an 800w or 600w PSU, a lot of used office/workstation PCs have way too small PSUs so I wouldn't be able to add anything more powerful than a GT1030

>>61443160
You could probably build the same PC cheaper than $800 with an i5 6500 and 1060 3GB, start at like $500 or $600 and let people bid on it.

>>61442213
look up for an i7 that would cost the same as a ryzen 1500 + am4 mobo, and google benchmarks to compare with the ryzen 1500. i still think a ryzen + mobo would be worth it given how intel chips are overpriced...

>>61443160
3 fiddy

>>61443210
airflow is a meme unless you cover the case holes

>>61443210
Plastic shroud from CPU to rear exhaust.

>>61442968

Mine 2GB has served me well for the past 5 years.

Runs GTAV in 1080p on high settings at 40-60fps. Same with Fallout 4, Mass Effect Andromeda and DOOM 2016. I forget what it ran Crysis 3 at, but I remember it being smooth. Putting shadow quality to medium on most games gains a bunch of frames if you don't care about that sort of thing.

Either going to give mine to my GF for her PC or buy her a 1050ti, which I think is about on par with a 680 4GB now.

>>61443174
>>61443182
>>61443222
great minds think alike

>>61443210

Set them all to S U C C.

>>61443322
I only have a front and rear fan. I'm wondering how many fans I should get, what size, and where to put them.

>>61443341
use water

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>>61442993
>>61443053
I'll look I to an R7 or threadripper, I am totally lost on the current state of CPUs

>>61443000
Not trolling, just ignorance. Is 1200W too low? Would I get the same performance with 32GB?

>>61443006
>>61443032
Don't care. 11 year old me has wanted to build a top end PC for like 2 decades now and I have the money to do it.


>>61443091
Thanks, will look into it. I may end up going AND anyway.

>>61443455
b a i t

>>61443455
you are a qt girl anon

be my gf

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>>61443210
There you go, buddy.

>>61443469
Literally not bait.

>>61443469
I'm a 30 year old dude

>>61443469
>>61443522
Also, why the fuck would someone bait the /g/ PC building general?

What's a good mobo for a ryzen 5 1600?

>>61443612
ASRock AB350M

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157763&cm_re=asrock_ab350m-_-13-157-763-_-Product

>>61443121
>that 6k build is a bait
It's not, I am going to build this thing and without help it's going to be an abomination.

>>61442966
why not do a custom water cooling loop, make it worth the time

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>>61442795
>>61442927
It's kinda difficult to put prices in dollars
Im from argentina... and here the prices are pretty fucked up.
Imagine that I can get that i7 for something like a half of the cost of the Ryzen 1600
And I dont need to change my mobo
Current setup I have:
-i5 2400
-8 gig ram
-960 Amp 4gb

I use it mostly for games... I dont have any problems in having a budget pc... Ive been using this mobo for like 5 years for now. Previously I had a i3 2120.
Right now I'm playing FFXIV, and sometimes I get some framedrops (playing in 1600x900). This game is pretty processor heavy.

That's the problem.. Im not sure of making the full upgrade or not

>>61443789
i'm saving this image

>>61443455
>11 year old me has wanted to build a top end PC for like 2 decades now and I have the money to do it.
I know the feeling. Get Threadripper since you have the money.

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>have all parts minus GPU
>prices shit
>see this

Fuck it I'm sick of waiting, looks like my mom is getting a fitness band thing.

>>61443710
There are videos on youtube on how to put together a Ryzen build and you will have a mobo manual packaged in. This isn't 20 years ago.

>>61443993
YOUUUUU FUCKING FAGGOT
BUY IT NOW BEFORE THE MINERS SNAP IT UP
I WOULD KILL TO SEE PRICES LIKE THAT

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>>61444018
>buying a 4GB 580

>>61444057
YOU CAN SELL THAT SHIT FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE
DON'T GET IN THE WAY OF A MERCHANT GOYIM

>>61443789
>Imagine that I can get that i7 for something like a half of the cost of the Ryzen 1600
Why does it cost that much for the i7? You have already have RAM, GPU and all that stuff, the CPU can just be swapped

>>61444057
What's wrong with a 4GB?

>>61444018
I had to buy it in a combo deal for 299 USD

The meme band is gonna be a gift I guess. Newegg is trying to combat the miner memes by doing combos.

>>61444236
Only good for 1080p. I have an RX480 4GB, works fine for 144hz 1080p. Higher resolutions, not so much.

>>61444405
I only have a 1080P monitor so works for me. 1060 3GB are not much cheaper and if I'm not retarded seem less future proof as well.

Would 8GB have made a massive difference?

>>61444510
That extra 4GB would have come in handy if I had a 1440p monitor. Except I don't have one.

>>61444585
Thanks, I'm basically building from scratch, just been using a laptop for everything. Last time I did a desktop build was a "family computer"/ mid tier 1k build that had a 2GB 770 in it so getting back into this in the middle of the mining clusterfuck is interesting.

>>61444153
Well, problem is. It's a very old cup... That's why I was thinking about the full upgrade

>>61444699
If you're gonna upgrade PSU, GPU, hard drives, then you might as well get a proper PSU to go along instead of very old outdated stuff
Yes it may be cheaper to go for the i7, but it's cash that you'd be investing onto obsolete hardware. It's extremely unwise to spend it in there.

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>>61444726
That's all I wanted to know, thanks anon

>>61444726
>you might as well get a proper PSU
i meant CPU

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>>61443993
>Have all the parts minus GPU
I know the feel anon.