/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Just got a 7700k, I have a dark rock 3 on it. 73C with aida 64 at 4.7ghz, voltage left on auto. Case is a fractal design nano s. I have two 140mm fans on intake at 1k rpm, the dark rock 3 at 1400 or 1500rpm, just with the fan that came on it, and a 120mm fan on rear exhaust at 1200rpm. The top moduvent piece of the case is off but has no fans installed, it's just venting. That's pretty decent in my opinion considering it's still almost silent sitting on my desk. What does /g/ think?

Also 1080ti, which one is best. I have a Strix card right now and love it. Dead silent, overclocked slightly and is only hitting 62C in that tiny ass case.

>>61315133
Basically I have 2 options that are exactly the same in price but have exactly the same issue.
1. MSI B350M Gaming Pro MOBO with Corsair RAM that is on QVL but with different capacity (16gb on QVL vs 8gb I can buy that's not)
2. ASRock B350M-HDV and G.Skill Trident Z RAM, same shit there - 16gb version is on QVL and 8gb is not.

Wat do

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>>61315293

What are the best motherboard options to complement a R5 1600/GTX 1070 build? I had my eyes on the ASUS Prime B-350 Plus but it has slightly subpar reviews from what I've seen.

>>61315309
If it is Ryzen always get RAM that is on the QVL. You don't want your shit not POSTing

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posting here because thread got no replies:


this is on sale for $270: 250+20 dollar shipping (no tax apparently).

Is it worth it? it's a tn panel and the bezel is huge i know but its still a 1440p/144hz/27 inch display with freesync. I would have bought it immediately but the fact that it's only a year warranty and the fact that I can't find any non-stock pictures of it on google or completed builds with it on pcpartpicker looks sketchy as hell.

I want something i can use for like 3 years at the very least which I dont think is unreasonable. Otherwise I would just get a 1080p shitter to replace in a year or two.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=16384&seq=1&format=2

Any comments about the company in general is welcome too, i don't know shit about them.

>>61315584
Looks like those QC reject korean monitors to me

where can I find a budget card in Australia that is decent and wont cost me 400+

>>61315416
Make sure you get a Dual BIOS board

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>>61315223
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKCtTH

I been recently been saving up about $3000 and been needing a new computer rig because i was a poorfag because of my former job.

I wondering since I got to try out the surface studio I wonder should I just go for studio because it does does suit my needs as a person.

Should I buy the base model Surface Studio or Build this Rig up?

>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/microsoft-surface-studio-28-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-rapid-hard-drive-silver/5679332.p?skuId=5679332

>>61315645
Whatever you think suits your needs the most

>>61313541

This Anon again. Didn't mean to vanish last thread, but had to take care of something that came up in real life. To continue where I loft off from that post, I checked the GPU fans to see if they were spinning, and they were, so I know the card isn't dead. I tried switching PCI-E slots, but no luck. Right now, I'm flushing my CMOS and seeing if that helps, but any other advice would be appreciated.

>>61315584
>not buying monitors with at least 10g

It's like you really love your internal organs

>>61315675
Fan spinning doesn't mean the card isn't dead. Fan spinning simply means the card is powered properly. The best way to test it now is to use it on another mobo. If it still doesn't register then it is fucked.

>>61315645
Well the rig would be much more capable but the Studio is more minimalist and you're paying a lot for the form factor and touchscreen.

If you really like the Studio and it does what you want then by all means just get that. If not then a rig is obviously the best choice.

It's hard to say very much about the part list without knowing your intended uses for this system. I would say in general that you don't need the 960 PRO and would be fine with the cheaper 960 EVO at the same capacity. Buying a Platinum rated PSU is also kind of overkill but that depends on your electricity cost I suppose.

>>61315721
Shit, that's not good then. Don't really have a spare motherboard lying around. I just tried again after putting the motherboard battery back in and it's still not detected.

I suppose it's not that big of a deal, it was time for an upgrade anyway, but prices are garbage at the moment so I'm less than thrilled.

>>61315752
Can't RMA it?

Can someone teach me what to look for in a monitor?
To me all I see is length and aesthetic.

>>61315726
Yeah I think the pros of this rig is
>Custom Builded
>customizable to my liking
>easily can swap up parts
>Sweet lighting effects
>way more flexible

And for your question about getting a platinum psu around my area is about 10¢ kwh so that's why

As for the surface studio
>Clean
>minimalistic
>Zero gravity hinge
>4.5k led display
>touchscreen

Both have pros but I leaning towards the surface Studio

Not exactly a building question but it is related to my build.
I have a phanteks p400s and it has the switch to change fan speeds, this was working previously but yesterday my fans just go full on and the switch won't change anything.
I can't think of anything that's changed besides me attempting to OC my GPU which I've now reverted anyway.
Any ideas?

>>61315756
The graphics card? No, it's a 770 GTX I bought like five years back. If anything, I'd replace it, but it feels pointless to buy a cheap 1050 or something to hold me over, but after today I don't really have the $600 to drop on a 1080.

>>61315795
1080's are going around $400 and hell you can snag a used 980ti or Fury for around $300

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If this is my Afterburner panel under load, how would I go about OC it? What does core clock and memory clock mean? And if that's under load, what would be a respectable temp to OC to?

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>>61315223
why?

Looking to sell my old mini itx system to fund a new one, but don't know how much its worth

Case: Bitfenix Prodigy
CPU: i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz
Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX
Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 SE
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II
RAM: G.Skill F3 16GB DDR3
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 128gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001
PSU: Seasonic S12II 520W Power Supply

What would this be worth if I were to sell it roughly?

>>61315791
How are the fans power? Are there in header pins that support modulation?

>>61315761
What are you looking for? A gaming monitor or a content production monitor? The two most important things are resolution and monitor type (TN vs. VA vs. IPS) but there are lot's of other smaller details.

>>61315631
You can't
You might be able to buy a card off newegg because they have different stock for international sales

>>61315865
Yes they're all powered fine, the manual controller did work perfectly up until yesterday, now it's as if the switch isn't doing anything.
I guess the switch might be broken, but I've only had the case 2 weeks.

>>61315888
Try manually controlling the fans and see if that works. Like Speedfan.

>>61315856
I'd probably ask $500 for a local sale

>>61315896
Already tried that, doesn't make any difference they just run at a constant speed with no change , got me stumped.

>>61315903
Try reading the case manual might be something you missed. Or else just RMA it.

My new Rosewell Nighthawk arrived in the mail. My new MSI B350 Tomahawk arrived in the mail. (A day early!/Seven days late!)

Swap everything over to the new box, plug it all in. Start wiring up the box cables.

Flip the switch and press power.
Nothing.

I was at least getting fans spinning in a different box with a different mobo; is there a way to test power on a mobo? I'm thinking I may have the box cables plugged in wrong (they're a little unclearly labeled, no +/-, just a triangle on one side and nothing on the other of the power/reset switch pin-sleeves. ) Should I be able to plug in the power button from the abandoned microATX (but proven to work) case?
It's a beautiful big black monolith, I want to love it. But I currently can't even tell if the power supply is working. (It was before though.)

>>61315928
Aren't there little led's on the mobo that should light up if its receiving power?
That's how I figured out I frazzled my psu because I fucked up the voltage

>>61315928
Ryzen? Ryzen first boots takes really fucking long. Just let it sit for a while. It will cycle on and off a few times.

>>61315931
No lights, no fans spinning, nothing.

>>61315933
Should the fans and such be working when it happens? There's literally no sign of life in there no matter what I do to it.

>>61315899
thanks anon

my guess was around 550-600 AUD, which is a little less than what you said assuming you're in USD

>>61315952
It should spin up POST and then reboot. It will POST like 5 times before booting. No sign of life probably means you have a dead mobo. Check your connections. If you have a spare PSU, test it with that. Otherwise just RMA.

>>61315789
There is also a giant chasm of difference in performance between the two. Just the GPU difference alone is pretty huge with a 1080 Ti vs a 965m.

>>61315913
Ok I don't think I missed anything, as I said it was working fine for the past 2 weeks and then just suddenly stopped, so I think it may be a faulty switch after all.
Thanks for the help.

>>61315996
There should be a power on switch on the board itself you can use.

>>61315899
What about this
>i5 4670
>ASRock B85M Pro4
>16Gb G.Skill Ripjawz
>64GB SSD
>2x2TB HDD
>Fractal Define R4 Case
>Antec 620w
And a depending on which GPU I add
>660, 1060 or RX570

Many thanks. I'm thinking 600/800/900

>>61315969
I have yet to be able to POST.
I think I had a janky thermaltake case that burnt out two motherboards (and came with a hell of a lot less content than the Rosewell monster has) and I've shifted to full ATX as a result.

I'm just trying to figure out whether it's plausible that the CASE's chips are DOA, and that's why the buttons aren't working to turn things on or power fans or whatever, or the MOBO is the dead component, and that's again, why nothing is working. I don't have spare AMD shit so it's hard to figure out a way to test.

recommend any micro atx cases?

>>61316286
Define C

How do you transfer Windows 10 from an HDD to an SSD? Google gives like 10 different methods.

>>61316361
Do you just want to move it across or actually install it onto the SSD? If the later download the ISO file and make an install USB/disc and run it, installing onto the SSD.

>>61316361
Fresh install is the best way.

I re applied the thermal paste on my CPU today for the first time in like 3 years. I was idling before at like 41C and now im at like 37C. It used to be 34c. I used the pea method to apply, so will this eventually improve once the paste gets settled?

>>61316370
>>61316374
Proper installation.

Sorry for sounding like a massive newfag, but download the iso file? Does that mean I'm not retaining the original license? Doesn't Windows 10 pro sell for like $200?

>>61316396
What is your current license? OEM? Full?

my pseudointellectual friend told me that i5 single cores are better than i7 quad cores for video games
Is this try? Why if so.

>>61316481
Your friend is special. Be nice to special people.

>>61316481
No, it's false. The architecture is the exact same, and i7 have more cache to work with so it's cores are either equally as strong or slightly strong if the workload benefits from having more cache

>>61316495
no bullying special people

>>61316499
>no bullying special people
Word. But do bully morons on the internet.

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How does this make you feel?

>>61316499
>slightly strong
slightly stronger

>>61316518
hot

>>61316518
That is a really gay wallpaper anon.
You want some S U C C?

>>61316518
>1.76 core voltage
please provide your geolocation data to Google Hoome so it can call the fire department

>>61316481
For a gaming PC, sacrificing on the graphics card in favor of a better CPU is not worthwhile. If downgrading from an i7 to an i5 means you can go from a x60 card to a x70 card, then downgrade the CPU. If you can afford i7 and a x70 card, then get both.

Within the same architecture, the only advantage i7s have over i5s is the hyperthreading. Core-to-core, they are the same.

The i7 will beat the i5 every time, but an i5/x70 system will beat an i7/x60 system in every game.

People kept recommending the i5 over the i7 because the price between them typically meant you could upgrade from a 960 to a 970 and still pay the same amount for the computer. The 970 is massively more powerful than the 960. This pricing is less true for the 10 series, which has a wider gap in price between the 1070 and the 1060.

>>61316550
x70 & x60 mean gtx 1070 and gtx 1060 here

>2 weeks from Vega
>Still no leaks
I think the RX is really going to suck boys

>>61316416
Not sure. (not mine, helping someone else). It was upgraded during the free upgrade period so whatever that is.

>>61316574
If it is OEM and it goes onto a new system, the windows license will deactivate if there is too much hardware change (new mobo, new CPU) etc. OEM licenses are tied to the hardware they are first installed on.

If it is a full license, the key is transferable. No issues there.

Regardless, you will have to install W10 on the SSD to find out. If you need cheap keys, Kinguin/AllKeySite sell them from 5-25 dollars each but they are all OEM keys.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrmR3F

>>61316670
Nice GPU faggot

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Any reason to not use the Pentium G4560 for a build for my parents (browsing and video watching)? Should I wait for Ryzen 3?

Also I'm torn between 1440p60IPS and 4K60IPS for the screen. Is 4K going to be the new 1080p for low end users in the next 10 years?

>>61316713
they would be fine with a core 2 duo desu

>>61316713
Just wait for 16k bro

>>61316670
>$1439
>10 core

>>61316713
Ryzen 3 probably doesn't have an iGPU so you're better off getting the Pentium.

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>>61316736
forgot picture

>>61316739
shut up you moron. the whole point of r3 ia that it has a apu (igpu)

once Ive narroed my motherboard search down to boards that have the right cpu slot and desired pci slots, usbs ect
what more is important? what causes price variance past the factors listed above?

>>61316790
Do you have a source for that? It seems likely they'll just use the same die as the current ryzens so it won't have an iGPU.

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>>61316843
Here is the roadmap, and Ryzen PRO doesn't have an iGPU (although the mobile probably will)
So there's only Ryzen 3 left so have iGPU in there.

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Transplanting my old-ass closet server into this slick little thing. Goddam it's cramped, I hope I can maintain any semblance of airflow. Any tips on cramped cable management besides just zipties everywhere?

>>61316865
>So there's only Ryzen 3 left so have iGPU in there.
You're retarded. They already released Ryzen 3 PRO without an iGPU, why are you expecting the consumer Ryzen 3 to have one? The only confirmed Ryzen APU right now is called "Ryzen Mobile".

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>>61316744
> (AUD)
still a bit much

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>>61316888
>The only confirmed Ryzen APU right now is called "Ryzen Mobile".
No you autistic fuck, they didn't include HDMI / VGA / DVI on almost every AM4 motherboard just for the fucking lulz
Desktop APUs have been planned for 2018, and only Ryzen 3 is left for them to release their APUs

I got a ASRock B250M for 50 bucks and a used i5 to go into it for a budget build with a 580 I already had. I gotta say this shit has been 100% stable and works flawlessly. Really impressed since its a budget mobo and a second hand CPU. Using it with a freesync gook ultra wide and for something as cheap as it was it feels like a real high end setup

>>61315223

where is AMD's R3s?

the fucking G4560 is almost $100 now

>>61316930
Why don't the Ryzen 3 PRO chips have an iGPU then? If Ryzen 3 was "Raven Ridge" it should have one, right?

>>61316974
Too bz saving the Vega at the moment

>>61316974
august i bet

>>61316984
>>61316992

i thought the fucking APU versions were supposed to be out by then

>>61316888
really quite difficult to google
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_system.php?q=cea598ab9faa9eaa9cbadde0cdfcdaa895a482ebd6e6c0a895a583fbc6f6d0b5d0edddfb88b58d&l=en
why would am4 all have video out if r3 doesnt?

>>61317017
According to whom?

>>61317017
you're pretty stupid, r3 release q3.

>>61317021
They already have Bristol Ridge that uses AM4 and has an iGPU. There already is Ryzen 3 (PRO) without an iGPU. Why are you expecting them to sell APUs under the "Ryzen 3" name?

>>61317068
the link shows an r3 gpu test.

>>61317090
Where the hell does it say "r3"? It most likely is the Raven Ridge chip, not "Ryzen 3".

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>$500 aud minimum for an RX580
MINEFAGS OUT

>>61316518
Your setup is fire fireman

>>61317152
You are in luck Etherium is sub 200 now. Suicide incoming.

>>61317152
Prepare for price drop. Start searching for refurbished GPUs within a week.

>>61316370
>>61316600
If I'm just installing Windows 10 via ISO on a new drive without adding any other hardware, will it ask for a key?

>>61317713
Changing storage does not trigger reactivation. The licence is tied to the motherboard.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdFpsJ

Am I doing this thing right, I'm trying really hard not to go over 800 dollars, or 850. I'm sure I left something out, please advise. PC is for medium gaming and generic entertainment usage.

My first attempt at a mid range gaming/general purpose build. Tell me what each of you think
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hLnMNN

Is there anything I can/should change?
I'm definitely waiting for august 1st to get a refurbished rx580 or gtx1070 which I think will take 200-300 off the over all price

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>>61317811
Why MicroATX? and why Quad-channel RAM?

>>61315293
should have listened to us and got ryzen

>>61317826
Get an IPS monitor

>>61317838
My place is rather cramped, my last rig was ATX and it was quite bothersome to move around. I figured mATX would be nice to conserve some space. Bout quad channel I'm not too knowledgeable on that, is dual better?

>>61317826
>Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2
I'd get a 500gb sata ssd instead.

>>61317885
The platform does not support quad channel and the kit you picked is for X99.

>>61317885
But the case is still mid-tower? Wouldn't it be the same size as any other mid-tower case.
Honestly dual vs quad doesn't matter, but extra slots creates extra weaknesses in the system to fail
>>61317905
>The platform does not support quad channel
???

>>61317919
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/index.asp#Specification
>Dual Channel DDR4 Memory Technology
>AMD Ryzen series CPUs support DDR4 3200+(OC)/2933(OC)/2667/2400/2133 ECC & non-ECC, un-buffered memory

Memory QVL list:
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/index.asp#Memory

>>61317919
ah crap, I knew I was overlooking something. I'll look for another case.
>>61317905
alright I'll take a look into it

>>61317976
Wait wtf you are right
What kind of stupid mobo only supports 2x dual channel and not quad channel.

>>61317976
no wonder when I was looking through the QVL lists it was all a weird selection of memories that made no sense. I guess I should also switch the mobo or something

>>61318012
It's a chipset thing. X399 will support quad channel, but that's in the high end segment. Don't worry about it.

>>61318072
Not only chipset but also CPU thing, a 7740x doesn't support quad channel even on motheboard that have it

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Assuming I can afford this and have the desk space, Is it dumb?

>>61318092
How much fucking screen space do you need.

>>61317842
If I go for IPS I wont be able to afford a 144hz monitor
Is it worth the trade off? I haven't experienced either.

>>61317905
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xqVzM
hows this?
Is buff cache something I should consider?

>>61318134
144hz is far more important, but i'm pretty sure the shift to IPS isn't very expensive and is well worth the money.

>>61318134
You shouldn't really skimp on the memory, you probably want 16GB of at least 2666Mhz

>>61318134
It's fine. Samsung 850 EVO 500gb has a 5 year warranty instead of 3 but it also costs $10-20 more. Up to you if that's worth it, the read/write speeds are close anyway.

>>61318133
the idea is using the two on the left for stuff that I want to keep track of constantly (hardware usage, temperatures, downloads, media player, etc)

I'm thinking either that or another 1440p screen on the left, but I don't really need that much horizontal space

the ones on the center and right are for gaming and general multitasking

>>61315293
The temperature isn't terrible but you should look at the delta with ambient temperature. If you feel like you can, delid it. Strix is good and silent

>>61315848
Google. Keep bumping core and memory clock until its unstable

>>61318246
Holy fuck. I mean if you've got money to spare then do as you want but how often will you be staring at hardware usage and temperatures that they warrant a screen to themselves?

>>61318140
Filtering by minimum 100hz with IPS, these are the only results that come up - seems like an expensive shift
maybe theres something wrong with the site?
>>61318163
f-fixed
>>61318214
Thanks, havn't been thinking about warranties


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7rgKm8
Price is better than I expected with setting the gpu at 200 since thats what i'd say its worth without minefags

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>>61318140
>>61318436
Forgot pic related

Any decent Prime Day pc part deals?

First time ever trying to get a PC built, I know basically nothing about what makes a good build, but here's a list I've thrown together, my budget is going to be between $1500-$2000AUD

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ps3jxY

>>61318422
It's basically what I currently do (i'm running a 3 monitor setup), but they have low resolution so I can't keep a look at everything I want at the same time.

My idea is to build a new computer soonish so I'll be able to do everything I do without compromises (like not being able to play games while I have something transcoding at non dogshit speeds) and I want to keep track of everything simultaneously

I don't really expect most people to understand my "autism", but those are the reasons I'm looking for a setup like that

>>61318573
Should have mentioned it's a gaming build, plan to play
Battlefield 1
ArmA 3
PUBG
Mainly

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>>61318493
Oh maybe you are right, I think IPS is only a cheap option for 60hz, for 144hz it's rape pricing.
>>61318573
>450W
no
>2133mhz
no no
>i5-7500
no no no

>>61318436
Most 144hz IPS displays are excessively expensive at the moment. The reason why people are advising against TN is because IPS has much better colors, with the caveat that you might run into a display with backlight bleeding or other uniformity issues, which are less prevalent on VA or TN monitors.

What games do you intend to play? Anything competitive?

>>61318595
What should I replace these parts with, like I said I have no experience in this, at all, so I'm effectively going in blind

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>>61318687
At least 550W, at least semi-modular PSU
Get a Ryzen 1600 and a B350 motherboard (Full atx not some micro-atx bullshit)
Get at least 16GB Ram at least 2666Mhz speed
GTX1070 is fine but gpu prices are super inflated atm
You will want a HDD because 240GB SSD won't be near enough, a 1TB seagate or anything will work
Case and OS look fine

>>61318719
Thanks for the help

>>61318719
>OS look fine
He can save $128 by running kmsauto once. Boom, extra money for a bigger SSD.

Can someone explain to me if it's possible to transfer my windows 10 os to a new pc i'm building. Or will i have to purchase a new copy?
A quick google search shows programs that migrate and clone my current hard disk to the ssd i will be using. Do those work?

>>61318595
I see.
>>61318654
Not super into competitive games, mostly battlefield, some older games like stalker series or empire earth
I do however play a small amount of league and cs go but i don't think im into them enough to base build decisions on it.
even so, what would IPS change for competitive games?

>>61318757
I'm >>61318573
What is kmsauto
Also I do currently have a laptop with Windows 10, would it be possible to transfer the licence at all you think, it was originally rubbing Windows 7 and I upgraded to 10 when they were giving away free for some reason

>>61318719
Updated, how trash is the build still don't hold back I need to learn

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9JKxM8

>>61318925
I have that same ssd

it will serve you well at that price bracket

>>61318925
Looks good, you might want a modular PSU though.
They can get pretty unwieldy if you have to have all those cables sticking out all the time.
I still think you will need more space, either a larger SSD or an additional HDD.

>>61319039
Give me 10 minutes to figure out what a modular PSU is and I'll link build again

>>61319092
It means instead of all the cables coming out of the PSU you actually pick and choose which ones are needed for your pc so you don't have a bunch of unused cables lying around your case.
Its more of a convenience/aesthetic thing than anything else

>>61319128
Ahh, I see.

Well here's it is again

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VPPhpb

>>61318828
>>61318883
If you got Windows 10 by upgrading, the licence is tied to your current motherboard. There's a chance you can get it reactivated on the new platform by contacting Microsoft support (open the Start menu, type Contact Support) and explaining the situation to the pajeets there - I did this successfully last year. As for moving the OS installation to a new SSD/HDD, you can run sysprep and then boot from something like Clonezilla or OSFClone, partition the new drive and start cloning.
It's easier and cleaner to just reinstall Windows 10 on the new PC, though. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

kmsauto is an activator/crack for Windows and Office, if you'd rather save some money. Usual piracy warnings apply.

>>61318834
On average TN monitors have better response rates, but honestly it's hard to tell the difference. I'd just get an IPS or VA with accurate colors and good viewing angles, even if it's not 144hz. Check out http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/

>>61319178
Oh thanks i didn't know it was tied to the motherboard.
Are those cheap activation keys you find online reliable? Amazon im my country has win10 pro keys for 10€ and most of the reviews seem positive

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>>61319174
That should be fine.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hPRMNN
This is your list but with a PSU that is cheaper and from a more reliable company (the same one I have).
Good luck

for a new pc build should i update the BIOS first or add Windows?

>>61319199
Those keys aren't retail, nor intended for resale. They're probably from Bizspark accounts, which is a Microsoft program for startups. The ones I bought from rebbit for acquaintances haven't been revoked yet, but your mileage may vary.

Is there any reason why I should buy an OS and not just pirate win 7 or 10? ethics aside.

>>61319252
Thanks for all your help

>>61319174
Your PSU is mediocre. You can probably do better for the same money.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
Find something at least tier-3. They can be found as cheap as anything below that.
I have no idea why this list isn't in the OP, given people constantly refer to it.

Is there a cheaper comparable motherboard to the ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero for i7-7700k. I don't want to spend 389 aud on it

>>61319372
Not really, you can still install updates.

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>>61319454
I already gave him the cheapest decent tier PSU.

>>61319330
Thank you for all your help. For 10€ i might as well try

>>61319492
What do you mean by comparable? What features do you need that aren't available on the z270 prime line of asus products?

Hello /g/. Would be going for a 1400 and waiting on Zen 2 be best money saving wise instead going for a 1600? And how likely is Zen 2 on 7nm going to hit crazy high stock clocks and on top OC well, apart from the wishful thinking of RedTeam+ members?

I have a 1060 with a 1080p 60hz monitor, keep the 1060 capped at 60fps. Is it worth going for a 144hz or am I better off waiting to upgrade my monitor to a higher resolution and gpu at the same time?
I imagine I'd have to drop settings to consistently hit even 120fps.

>>61319664
I'd go 1600 desu. Price difference isn't huge and you get a better stock cooler.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBQMNN

How's this for a gaming build? I can get a boxed 1050ti cheap off a guy I know, so i'm just going to use that until GPUs stabilize a bit

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> gtx 1060 = 400€
> gtx 1070 = 500€

i guess i'll go for the 1070 even though i only own a 1080@60hz monitor after my 770 died

Hope my 4770k stays strong for another few years .... maybe i should overclock it sometime

>>61319720
>Another Corsair CX
Hey, at least it's not in a Fractal case.

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Ausfag here, really needing help deciding on a new case.

Looking for just a reliable one the cheaper end of the spectrum, I literally don't care what it looks like I just want a solid case.

I'm getting a new CPU, RAM and MOBO along with it, all from PCCaseGear, so which budget cases would you recommend from here? - https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_547/cases/all-models

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would want to upgrade to 16gb of ram but ram's a bit expensive at the moment

how long will it take for ram to be affordable again?

>>61319716
Better cooler as well? Then 1600 it is. I hope Vega will be decently priced.

>>61319753
1H 2018 the prices will begin to drop.

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>>61319749
Show me the error of my ways then bully

>>61319753
buy used ram

>>61319751
300R

>>61319199
If you link a Microsoft account to Windows 10 you can recover the license on new hardware just by logging in on your new PC.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3164428/windows-build-1607-activation.html?_ga=2.26695483.781449374.1499782114-604825042.1493848278

>>61319777
Nothing wrong with a CX PSU. But like Fractal cases, it's what people put in in lieu of any info. I guess it's more reasonable with PSUs, since you don't want a lemon.
I'm personally more partial to cheap Seasonics, if only because they offer FDB fans over the inferior sleeve-bearing options EVGA and Corsair offer at that price point. Though the S12II is long in the tooth now.

Ultimately, you can find the best deals yourself. Refer to >>61319454 for the list.

>>61319834
The windows 7 from which i upgraded was cracked. It didn't have a valid product key. So neither does the current windows 10 OS. I spoke to microsoft customer support. Not much i can do

>i3 7350k for $130
>I5 7600k for $190

What is the correct play? Light gaming and photo editing

>>61319777

My cx is running fine for 3 years now. 2+ years with a 980ti.

It's fine. People just love to hate popular things.

>>61319925
Ryzen 1600

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$85 for this. Worth picking up for my next build?

>>61320043
>Falling for the AIO memes

>>61319925
Ryzen for editing
I5 for gaming

>>61320060
Mind explaining?

>>61320105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOcUnn1mtQ

>>61320061
shit advice

>>61320148
Where's your advice at faggot? >>61319925
Ryzen is a meme. Get the i5 7600k. It's $190 at frys today.

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>>61318092
I mean, you'd save a lot of space if you just turned the two n the right side vertical and put one of each side of the 27''s

>>61320188
>Ryzen is a meme

Of course you say this.

AMD / ATI is to /g/ as Jews are to /pol/.

>>61320188
>Get the i5 7600k. It's $190 at frys today.
Still more expensive than an R5 1600 because it requires a cooler, still gets shitty framedrop on anything CPU intensive because being able to overclock to solve the 4 threads problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
It's shit and if all you can mutter is "ryzen is a meme" then i don't think this discussion is going to go very far

>>61320043
Noctua D15 should be at a similar price.

>>61320218
Nigger the AMD shills have been far worse the past couple months than the Intel Jews. But let's be honest. Ryzen. Is beta testing right now. It might be good in a year or two but Intel is the best choice at the moment.

>>61320222
I hate the color of that cooler though

>>61320188
>'x is a meme' meme
wow u really showed him

>>61320263
It goes well with my sennheiser hd598's, and it looks a lot less gaymery than other coolers

>>61320218
There's essentially no difference between /g/ and /r/AMD at this point.

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Can anybody please help me with finding a GPU for my build?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr6LTH
I'm based in the UK and my budget's £260. Windows 7 OS.

I already had one selected - the Asus Geforce GTX 1060 Dual but Amazon cancelled the order for some reason. Rather than wait for it to restock, I decided to go with the Turbo but BT pushed back the order to September.

I'm looking for something mid-range.
My goal is to build a gaming PC that can emulated older titles and play last gen games like Fallout 3/NV with a lot of mods.
As long as I can get 1080p and 60fps, I'm happy. I don't plan on playing any AAA titles at 4K or anything like that.

I have every other component sitting in the corner, I just need a damn GPU before I can start building.

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>>61320323

>>61320142
That has to be the dumbest video I've ever seen. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about or how heat works

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>>61320061
>i5 for anything
Good goy

>>61320142
Not that anon but thank you very much for that. Quite informative

>>61320263
>having a window in your case

Neck yourself.

>>61320336
I'm not from the UK but it looks like scan.co.uk are going to restock some cards on July 30 and you can still preorder.

>>61320188
$0.05 has been deposited into your account. Intel thanks you for your assistance!

>>61320474
Does this photo LITERALLY come from reddit?

Prepare yourselves, the NEET AMD shill just woke up.

>>61320474
>>61320551

if i put a fan left to an heatsink and another right to the same heatsink both blowing at the same direction, but the right fan spins faster, does that mean air will slow down once it reaches the left fan?

>>61320519
I bet you have cables running across your mobo and a cat in your apartment that pissed all over everything.

>>61320575
>and another right to the same heatsink
at the right of the same heatsink*

>>61320575
What you're trying to do is objectively stupid. Do a push-pull configuration.

>>61320582
Whereas no gambling is required to know that you're a faggot who posts in /guts/.

>>61320608
Actually I don't because my pc looks like shit for now. You lose

>>61320624
>N-not even!

Aw, you're even embarrassed about it! Just stop, man. Nobody's forcing you to join the circlejerk.

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>was thinking of upgrading my 770 to play Total War Warhammer at max
>wanted to get an idea of GPU prices
>nothing in stock fucking anywhere
>what is in stock is in the 400's

I fucking hate these faggots i thought nvidia was shit for mining. Will this ever stop

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>>61320606
i got this thing except the middlefan isn't sync'd with my CPU fan and is instead set to the case fan speed using the case fan's controller, and it also is a non-noctua fan (be quiet pure wings 140mm non-PWM)
Is this positionnement stupid? There already is the exhaust fan to take care of the leftmost side of the heatsink and the air from the two fans at the right on top of that should be enough to push that away, no?
With the stresstests i did, the right part of the heatsink got hotter than the left side even in this configuration so i don't really want to remove the rightmost nor middle fan as both are pulling / pushing air away from the right heatsink

What is the best place to buy HDDs? (I live in France)

>>61320838
Be sure to ask if HDD are halal at your local mosque befote you purchase

>>61320838
Muhammad's electronics probably has a couple booths set up around the Eiffel tower next to his shanty

>>61320868
>>61320885
>Asks for advice
>"lol muslims amirite"
You win.

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>>61315223
Just checking in, are there any GPUs available yet?

>no?

>>61320061
fuck off. i5s are dead and every major reviewer says that, not just /g/. if you disagree you're either a shill or technologically illiterate

>>61320914
>Italian-American man pretending to be a Native American

>>61320926
Anargumentum ad verecundiam

>>61320957
proved my point, ty

>>61320736
Ah, I misinterpreted your first post, both fans are pushing towards the back exhaust, right? Should be fine, really. Air from the right fan can also escape left and right of the heatsink and the middle fan doesn't contribute a lot anyway.

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Post yfw you upgraded your GPU before the mining craze.

>>61320926
>every major reviewer says that
Sources?

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>>61320188
If you want to shitpost then create your own thread you /b/ tier, autismo memster.

>>61320913
Just report these crossboarders turds, /pol/shitters aren't really new to this board but they get banned pretty fast.
Also, amazon usually has the best prices by a few euros but also has free shipping so you save a lot of money by going with them. They have a decent range of hard drives too so finding the one you need isn't really hard.

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>>61320980

>>61321005
Despite what you may think, this particular thread should be neutral. It's not your personal AMD appreciation echo chamber.

>>61321015
Thanks. I heard that Amazon sends their hard drives in really bad boxings that damage them during shipment. Is it not true anymore? Or was it an urban legend to begin with?

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>thought my R7 1700 wasn't pretty good silicon lottery wise, [email protected]
>slap heatsinks on my Asus B350M-A's VRM because it doesn't
>upgrade my PSU from 500 to 600w
>get noctua D15S
>currently rocking a stable [email protected] during heavy video encoding (hwaccel disabled) and keep lowering the voltage everyday because no sight of unstability yet
i feel happy

>>61320957
Games have begun using more than 4 threads. The higher IPC and lack of shitty IF latency can't save the i5 from being increasingly bested where the devs are coding with Ryzen in mind.
This is most notable in certain titles where the 1% lows are substantially below the R5.
So, in the end, you buy a potentially dead socket (assuming CFL isn't compatible), for a CPU that you need a cooler for (unless non-k, in which case, you can't OC) for questionable benefit.

Maybe when CFL brings 6-core lineups, Intel's midrange can be revisited.

>>61321059
Why don't you try 4ghz then?

>>61321056
And calling something a meme and disregarding an entire product because is what you call neutral?

>>61321079
I want lower temperatures and power consumption, not to say 100mhz isn't a very big of a difference if any, it's not worth the massive voltage increase it'll require

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Just got in the door a new PC with an i7700k and 8 gigs of DDR4 ram (using on-dye kaby lake gfx card cause i dont play games).
I ordered this PC specifically for a programming project I'm working on, and the last step is to install 32 gigs of ram.

The RAM that are installed currently are 2400 MHz DDR4 vengeance ram.
I found a pair on a used hardware site that are 2100 mhz, same brand (vengeance) same latency etc.
I heard that you need the exact same model if you wanna take advantage of speedy RAM.

Do you guys think these 2 will be compatible?

>>61321088
I'm not that faggot.

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What is the current recommended /pcbg/ GPU for playing AAA games from 2-3 years ago on max details and resolution?
I was looking into some used GeForce GTX but there's nothing good under 200 USD and new cost an organ.
I wanted to play FFXIV maxed out in 1080p and 4xAA with more than 75 FPS if possible (75Hz screen), although the game is kinda old, the expansions released in the past years added new models that have more polys and better GFX than ever before, another expansion is coming soon too.
The official system requirements say GTX 660 but it's bullshit, I've read some benchmarks and it's barely playable (FPS is in the 20s), that's really not the kind of experience I wanted to try.

>>61321112
The RAM will default to whatever your slowest stick is.
You should also buy exact models for stability. Not ideal to mix and match.

Is $300 for a 1700x on Amazon prime a good deal?

>>61321112
Sure. All sticks will probably run at 2100.

>>61321059
>Asus B350M-A

Yeah that's why I don't ever recommend that board, especially since the Plus version has heatsinks on the VRM

>>61321140
Yes if you weren't going to use the stock cooler of the 1700 anyway. The X models do not have coolers provided with them.

>tfw i can't buy an AMD product because of all of the anti-Semitic comments here

>>61321123
At 1080p a GTX 1060 would be the best bet, 1070 if you want Ultra settings on newer titles.

>>61321198
You're very funny.

>>61321198
Good goy

>>61321015
>report people for giving sound advice.

I hate you Reddit fags more than /pol/

Hey guys in regards to stuff you plug into the JFP1 slot on the motherboard, what is the different between the Power Switch, the Reset Switch, the HDD LED, and the Power LED? I unplugged all the cords from my JFP1 slot to examine them out of curiosity and when I plugged them back in the exact same way my case LED on the lower front part of the case won't light up anymore. I'm trying to isolate which of the plugs is causing this... so what do each of those cords control?

Found an Auros GTX 1080ti Gigabyte for ~125$ (conversion from DKK to USD makes it 124.6) by some soccer mom on an online 2nd hand market. Should I buy?

>>61321200
>GTX 1060
I was keeping an eye out for this one, some used listings have reasonable prices.

>1070
Sadly not in my price range yet, how large is the performance jump from the 1060?

>>61319178
>Usual piracy warnings apply.
and those are?

How long do you guys think it will take for graphics cards to fall down in price? It's typical that the time I want to update this happens.

>>61321270
Check mobo manual, you probably made a mistake plugging back in the HDD or Power LEDs

>>61321272
Go for it. At the very worst you palm it off again for about the same price as "not sure what wrong, maybe fixable?"

>>61321301
Probably 20-40% depending on settings, resolution, etc.

>>61321356
Couple of years until the miners move to ASICs
You'll be able to get their trash for cheap, buy a console for now

>>61321356
Im thinking the 10xx series will see drops around mid to late October

>>61321317
Pirated Windows versions are usually literal botnets.

Newbie to this general, but really liking it.
I'm the same guy as >>61321112 and i just read OP.

Why are you guys recommending staying away from i5's?

>>61321446
None of the currencies that mine with the Dagger-Hashimoto algorithm will have ASICs available unless VRAM becomes absurdly cheaper than it is today.

>>61321472
Ryzen 5 1600 basically blows it out of the water and is a much better value atm.

>>61321504
Just shut up r/AMD

>>61321472
There's nothing wrong with the i5 as a chipset, hell im still rocking my haswell i5. It's just that Ryzen outperforms it (with good MHz ram) and it's cheaper so it seems moot to go with intel. I'm all for brand loyalty, as I've never built with AMD before but I may actually consider it if intel doesn't drop a good mid-range competitor.

>>61321517
Can't tell if falseflagging or retarded

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Rate my new build?

The cable-management is awful though, I can post pics if y'all want.

>>61321556
i3/10

>>61321556
post em anon

>>61321556
get a new cpu and post pics

>>61321317
I can't vouch for how the KMS crack works and whether it sends anything sensitive back to its developers. Also, nobody knows how Microsoft will handle non-genuine users in the future.

I'm from eastern Europe and don't give a shit, but for americans this stuff is probably worth considering, especially if they connect to the internet from campus or something.

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>>61321581
>>61321583

plz no bully ;-;

>>61321556
Is this a joke tho?
Mining rig?

>>61321595
kek
this slavic dog won't even name its country

>>61321605
faggot

>>61321605
there is no way this is real. surely no one is this bad.

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>>61321605
is that painters tape?

>>61321605
Literally laughed out loud, what the hell happened to your hard drive cage? That would help a lot

Have RAM prices gone up recently?

>>61321605
Why did you buy a custom cooler for a locked i3? Stock coolers are generally fine as long as you don't overclock.

>>61321605
Please god no.

>>61321668
Yes, blame the smartphone market.

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Anyone got a set up around $500~ that is would be solid for 60fps 1080p gaming for a couple years?

>>61321668
I paid £74.99 for a 3200MHz 16GB kit in May last year. The cheapest available now at that speed or faster is £129.49, a 73% price hike.

>>61321743
Terrible time to build. Try this time next year, and I'm not joking.

>>61321743
X1X

>>61321469
How so?

I'm looking at using W10 Enterprise LTSB, SHA verified from MSDN, activated with AutoKMS.

>>61321764
Is it about the crypto currency thing or is there a major shift happening in the industry?

>>61321743
Unless you can get a GPU for a sane price you can't right now.

Is a used GTX 670 for $100CAD a good deal as an upgrade from a 2 GB RX 460?

>>61321605
>Skylake in 2017
>Custom cooler on a non-K SKU and H110 MB
>Deprecated PSU
>Spaghetti cable management
>Drives literally hanging around

>>61321796
Crypto-mining driving GPU prices and killing stock
Smartphone and 3D NAND fab production driving RAM and SSD prices

It's the worst time to build. No exaggeration. I don't remember anything like this perfect storm of shit in my entire life.

>>61321616
No.
>>61321633
I am.
>>61321644
Yes.
>>61321667
I had to remove the HDD mount to fit my GPU in.
>>61321683
I got it for free from a friend.
>>61321689
Oh, Yes.

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Why does Speccy say my RAM is only 1200 MHz?
Did I get scammed? I payed for 2400.

>>61318573
Keep the case, scrap the rest.

>>61315645
32 GB of ram... are you going to be running 10 VMs and a massive DBM or something?

>>61321848
Look up how dual channel works

>>61321430
Oh it turns out they were plugged in correctly, but I noticed there is an external physical on/off button for that particular LED. The button was on, so I jiggled the cord attached to the button and the LED lit up. Apparently the on/off button's cord has a short or something. I positioned the wire in a way that "fixes" the short so it works for now. I am getting a new case soon so I'm not too concerned.

Question about dual channel RAM.

I have a B350 board with 4 slots, and two dual channels. I ordered 2x4GB for it and plan to use it in dual channel.
People say think ahead though to not waste money/sticks/etc.but if I were to order like another 2x4 or 2x8 kit and install it in the other slots I would be fine right?

Is the i5 6400 a good i5 could for Arma 3 or pcsx2? Also how is it for multitasking?

>>61318573
>>61318594
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BDy9zM
You're welcome. Or hell, spring the extra $400AUD and get the 1080

>>61322050
>Is the i5 6400 a good i5 could for Arma 3 or pcsx2?
Meh. It'll do
>Also how is it for multitasking?
worse than the AMD competitors like the Ryzen 5 series.

>>61321821
The price is average for an used one, personally I wouldn't spend more than 80 CAD for a 670 (shipping and taxes included).

>>61322050
Nobody can reasonably answer your question, since you haven't given us your build.

>>61321821
No, you're getting ripped off. No driver support for it and you find newer stuff for the same price.

>>61322033
Yes. >>61321133

>>61321848
DDR = double data rate

>>61321925
It has literally nothing to do with dual channel.

>>61321843
God damn nigger, you can hide most cables at the back of the motherboard. Just spend 30 minutes and do wire management, it's not hard.

What's the best GPU to look for for low/mid gaming (think terraria, Torchlight, TTS, Grim Dawn, basically shitty little co-op games) in terms of price:performance?

>>61322201
no plans to build this. Made this as a guide. someone looking for a sub $500 computer and doesn't want a Pentium.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qrB9zM

>>61321839

> I don't remember anything like this perfect storm of shit in my entire life.

It gets better with Intel culling supply of the hyper-threaded bentium so you HAVE to go in with a more expensive cpu because the cheap ones are either shit or impossible to find.

>>61322260
you can probably do that stuff on most laptops integrated gpus
find the cheapest thing you can, i mean like sub $90 it really wont matter

>>61322282
Thanks. I wanna just gather up some parts to build a pc with my son to teach him about it, and then have it be his PC so we can play games together when he comes to visit.

>>61322134
>newer stuff for the same price

Not in Canada unfortunately. Used for 100 maple syrup credits, the only alternative is an R7 360 in my city. There's also some fag trying to sell a used 1050Ti for 1.5x retail because "it's a beast, I overclocked it".

New 1050Tis are $230 after tax in Ontario.

/g/,
I can build a:
1500x with b350m mobo
8gb ram
1050ti
240 wd blue ssd
520w seasonic psu
Generic 40€ case
690€ total

Or get the same setup but with an i5-7400 from a guy I know for 500€ ( parts barely used and with warranty). I would save 180€ but miss out on the fun of building the PC, miss out the AM4 platform and what may come, and be stuck with an Intel Crappylake McStutter.

It would mainly be to game and get that feeling of emptiness, loss of time and real life accomplishment

>>61322260
Any integrated GPU will manage. You don't need to purchase a discrete one.

>>61322260
Recent integrated GPUs, especially APUs, should manage just fine. Or a RX560 would work well if you have an old iGPU.

>>61322316
I would take the Kaby assuming all else equal.
How much a personal build means is up to you. You won't get 190 Euros worth of value taking a 1500X over a 7400, that's for sure.

>>61322318
Well I wanna grab "something" so I can explain about GPUs to him. Would a 960 for $75 dollarydoos be alright?

I want to build a PC for basic web browsing 1080p video and libreboot.
My Budget is roughly 200$ But I allready have many parts.
Parts I have:
Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard
4GB of ram (2gb x2)
Core 2 quad Q660
Optical drive
250GB HDD

What I need:
Power supply
Case
Graphics card ( This card must work with no propietary drivers what so ever and must also work with libreboot)

Country: USA
What do you guys reccomend?

>>61322384
That's pretty good value.

>>61321697
How does that make sense though? Smart phones have been around for years, why now all of a sudden are they causing problems with RAM prices?

>>61322423
Here's a decent, cheap case.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qBkD4D/silverstone-case-ps08b
Here's a decent, cheap PSU.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfvZxr/evga-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-b1-0450-k1

Got a Caviar Blue from a friend for free, os is on an ssd. If I got an hdd with better write/read times, would I see a noticeable improvement in loading times for games? I only keep a couple games on the ssd and don't want to have to switch back and forth often.
Was thinking of getting a WD Black, Seagate Barracuda, or Toshiba p300.

>>61322268
nice but i would go with cheaper psu like cx 450m and get better ram.

>>61322500
What GPU should I get?

>>61322429
They're about 60-80AUD dearer so I'll just run with the 960 guy; just bought it now. I have an old 660 but I wanna be able to do some newer games with him too (dying light, obviously turned down for the 960 but the 660 would've really struggled).
>>61322449
My thoughts too considering aussiebucks suck right now

>>61322458
Huge increase in demand for DDR4. They can't keep up very well at the moment, so prices go up accordingly.

is a 1394/fireware/whatever else it's called important? my motherboard apparently doesn't support this kind of plug, so i can' only assume it's not needed.

>>61322535
Actually, scratch the case. Your MB doesn't have USB3. Unless you want to add a card via PCI.
Just get any cheap case. It's evident this build is budget.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yn7CmG/thermaltake-case-ca1d400s1nn00
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TkkD4D/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1100bl
etc.
Don't know about GPU

>>61322596
Firewire is obsolete.

>>61322628
ah, what will i be missing out on though? if you don't mind me asking.

>>61322512
WD Black is too expensive for little gains. Look for current gen WD Red, although the Blue should do fine as well. You won't really see improvements with games in my opinion, as the HDD random seek is still way below an SSD.

>>61322614
The main reason I want with this MB is the libreboot support. The only criterea for graphics cards is works without non-free drivers. Know anything like that?

>>61322645
There are almost no devices to actually make use of Firewire.

>>61322645
Firewire was a standard created by Apple to compete with USB. It had a advantages/disadvantages. It ultimately died due to Apple's incompetence in managing it.
The biggest draw was the throughput, which USB 3.0 now exceeds.

>>61322657
No.

>>61322679
>>61322668
ah, alright. cheers anon. appreciate the help.

What is the graphics card equivalent of BBC?

>>61322710
?

>>61322710
long and black.

>>61322710
TITANS
>>61322745
BigBadCpu

>>61322819
that doesn't mean anything and no such thing exist anyway

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>>61322819
>>61322710
Radeon HD 7990

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>>61322895

>>61322382
Thanks for the insight anon

>>61322701
>>61322679
>>61322668
sorry, another question. will a firewire plug work on a usb 3.1 slot? if not, will an adapter work?

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>>61322895
>>61322940

Pro duo says hello.

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>>61322710

4(!) 8-pin connectors.

>>61322895
nice fliename

new thread.
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