/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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NAS

prebuilt or custom?

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Who here /different manufacturer for every component/?

>assrock mobo
>gigabyte gpu
>evga psu
>nzxt case
>phanteks fans
>samsung ssd
>corsair ram

>>61271867
>diversity in MY pcbg
ree cúck lefty commie get OUT OUT OUT

Build me a PC that will max out RDR2.

Instead of completing my PC, I will opt for a PS4.

The GPU market is fucked up and this situation won't change for atleast half a year.
Ram prices are also over the roof.

>>61271951
Yes. Just turn on XMP and you are good to good.

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>>61271959
neat. thanks senpai

>>61271955
Yes. This is probably the only time I will tell people buying a console over a PC is a good idea.

When the hell is the gtx 1060 going to go down in price? It's only gone up.

>>61272035
It'll more than likely be obsolete before a significant price reduction.

Hopefully the next generation of GPU's by Shitvidia and ShitMD will use memory that can't mine anyway.

>>61271934
>>61271940
sauce pls

>>61272052
Please so much this. I had to jump onto a 1060 for $300 before it skyrocketed even though I wanted to save for a 1080. Fuck miners.

On a completely unrelated note, what is that site to buy Windows keys? And should one install W10 or W7? I've been running7 ever since it dropped, is there any reason to not get it again on my next build?

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>140mm 300rpm fans

>>61272052
No way Nvidia or AMD intentionally cripple their own cards. The only way is for them to priced in a matter that hash vs watt/price of the card is lopsided that miners will ignore it. But even that didn't keep the miners away from the 1070

>>61272132
>what is that site to buy Windows keys?
Kinguin, allkeyshop or Ebay

>And should one install W10 or W7?
Depends on how paranoid you are. If you are tinfoil tier, then linux. Aluminium foil? W7. Don't believe the NSA spies on you or don't give a fuck? W10.

>is there any reason to not get it again on my next build?
See above

>>61272143
I might be wrong, but I thought HBM memory was useless for mining, hence Vega being of zero excitement for miners.

Thus, if the next gen GPUs by both manufacturers all use HBM memory, we're all good.

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>>61272135
>7 140mm 1200RPM fans
I put my hands over the exhaust and it's icy cold

put everything together yesterday, had problems with ram speeds but finally got it to boot @ 3000mhz now i'm just trying to see how far i can take the overclock on cpu. (r5 1600) currently at 3.8 and 1.35v. what values should i try to hit 4ghz?

>>61272165
Do you just not care about noise? I couldn't live with it, even my 500rpm 120mm fans were too loud, I had to run reducers.

I just have Speedfan set to ramp them up under load.

>>61272180
All CPU's are different, no one can tell you. You could take two that run the same clock speed at the same voltage, bump them both up another 100mhz and one may need a shitload more voltage to be stable, some CPU's just hit a wall.

>>61272161
No. HBM is in fact better at mining. The reason miners don't like them is because HBM is fucking expensive compared to GDDR so even if it is better at mining, the initial investment is more. Also despite HBM supposedly using lesser power, AMD managed to fuck it up and make a 300W card. No miner wants to run a 300W card given the choice.

>>61272159
I mean I don't really give a fuck; honestly if the NSA/AUS equivalent wanted me locked up they'd have all the dirt they needed on me already. But I played around with W10 on my son's mother's laptop and really found it jarring compared to my W7. Basically my question boils down to is there any reason to get 10 over 7 if I don't care about security issues?

Also thanks for the sites

>>61272193
Ah, I didn't know that, was hoping the GPU price inflation would be over soon.

Maybe they'll bring out dedicated mining cards like people are speculating they will.

>>61272199
>Basically my question boils down to is there any reason to get 10 over 7 if I don't care about security issues?
DX12 and the games exclusive to W10.
A more efficient OS (less memory usage + less space)

>>61272208
>was hoping the GPU price inflation would be over soon.
Nope.
>Maybe they'll bring out dedicated mining cards like people are speculating they will.
They already are. Or at least the manufacturers of AIB are.

>>61271850
prebuilt unless you have a very specific reason for a custom one.

MINERS STOP RUINING MY SUMMER

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why get a X370-board over a B350?

>>61271934
omfg it's like the nippon version of rose. thank you

Should I just buy a 1050ti while I wait for a 1060 or better?

>>61272240
>MINERS STOP RUINING MY SUMMER
You should be outside playing with the other children :^)

>>61272255
No. By the time the 1060 settles, Volta will be out.

>>61272266
I need a GPU though

>>61272248
SLI support, better OCing potential in most boards as the manufacturers put better VRM designs on there, better heatsinks too usually. The chipsets themselves are very similar but the board manufacturers put better components on the X370 chipset boards

>>61272273
How much you willing to pay for a 1060?

>>61272273
Second hand cheap GPU. Or just bite the bullet and get 1060. Getting a 1050ti might as well be as good as throwing money into the ocean at this point.

>>61272283
Thank you.
I'm not sure it's worth it for me then, as I don't plan on adding an extra card anytime soon

>>61272227
Thanks. I'll grab W10 then.

>>61272312
There are also some differences wrt # of SATA and USBs available: https://rog.asus.com/articles/technologies/your-guide-to-the-ryzen-am4-platform-and-its-x370-b350-and-a320-chipsets/

Fairly minor overall though

>>61272296
$250

>>61271834

wtf, i want to into pc's now

>>61272400
I'm assuming you're Murican?

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So I ordered The one 1060 I could find in stock at a reasonable price from pic related. Says estimated delivery is between the 7th and 12th, but its still sitting at confirmed. How fucked am I anons?

>>61272509
Yes, I'm from NY

>>61272510
You'll find out when you get a box filled with didgeridoos and kangaroo turds.

>>61272190
hmm ok, thanks i'll keep trying different numbers

>>61272532
Ahwell, international shipping probably isn't worth it. Best of luck on your search man.

>>61272388
Nice link, thank you.

I can't decide if I want to splurge on a better PSU, alllowing me to stick another 1080 in there later. If I don't, I could be tempted to downgrade to a B350-mobo, since I won't need SLI.

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What case should I get?

Needs to fit a 360 rad, would an evolv atx fit the bill?

I also like the eclipse and noctis

>>61272635
What's the middle case? It looks nifty and I wanna have a better look at it.

I'm considering the Phantek one myself but with the glass side.

>>61272661

NZXT Noctis

>>61272635
I've read that the Evolv has horrible airflow but if you're doing a water cooling loop then it would probably not matter.

>>61272635
i would say noctis with the rad in the top
but i dont think it would make big difference

Just got 1060 6gb zotac for $250, did I fuck up

>>61272712

That was my thinking. I feel like the Noctis is a criminally underrated case. Never see anyone talk about it, and I like the "stealth" look. It's not too gamery looking, and it has the same layot as an H440 internally.

The eclipse, though, just looks really clean, and I'm thinking no tempered glass, just a closed box.

>>61272510
You will have to wait endless and then it will eventually get canceled.

Miners are buying all cards.

>>61272720
No

>>61272720
Yes

Phanteks make a case that can house a mATX and ITX system in one. Seems neat, but kinda pointless. Should I order it and put both my systems in there for giggles?

>>61272720
Maybe

>>61272720

Maybe

>>61271834
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RMcxM8

The supply is a tacens radix VII silver, is just that I didn't find it in the list.

For anything else, did I do good?

>>61272801
Do it and post it in the /guts/ threads for maximum keks

>>61272801

It's ridiculous expensive if memory serves.

>>61272817
>8GB of RAM
>no storage
>piece of shit housefire waiting to happen PSU

What the fuck are you doing nigger.

>>61272233
Why not custom like a pc?

>>61272817
Do you care for the black/red aesrhetics? If not get the AsRock Pro4.

The single 8GB is fine if you plan to upgrade in one year or less.

Where are you going to get that GPU, anon?

>>61272817

Get a Superflower PSU. it's the OEM for most all brand name PSUs

>>61272829
>>61272826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m3090RGqhU
The power splitter has me concerned, I don't wanna spend another 100 bucks for a 800-1000 watt psu.
Price is high but still fair at 170€, I'll keep you updated should I do it.

>>61272728
yeah nzxt does great layouts
for me the eclips is a good value choice but if you are going custom the space is really good to have

>>61272870
>I don't wanna spend another 100 bucks for a 800-1000 watt psu
Are you poor or something?

>>61272844

I don't need storage, I'm not exactly buying a new computer but rather substituting a fried PSU and mobo and selling the CPU and GPU to cover for this.

For now I don't care much about the RAM but rather in limiting the damage, and the RAM is far more upgradeable than the GPU or CPU.

The PSU, welp here I just some that had the silver+ and not that much.

>>61272857
just wondering, whats the main difference between the Asrock and the Gigabyte then.

And I plan on being very patient and hope for the best.

>>61272869

I must say, they do seem a bit over the budget I had planned.

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>>61272887
n-no why do you ask.
But seriously I just don't wanna spend too much money (and more importantly time) on a joke build. The point of my itx buid was that it's small and I can take it to my weekday home. This case looks massive, even bigger than my ancient Dell Precision phonebooth my Ryzen build replaced.
Just in case: what's the best >800w psu?

>>61272720
Maybe

>>61272940

>what's the best >800w psu?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/

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>>61272616
I think I'll just pull the trigger on this.
Any last-minute comments/recommendations?

>>61272998

>Define C

That isn't the Define R5.

>>61272940
if you want the absolute best the seasonic 1000w platinum
or if you want a less eficent one(and cheaper) the corsair rm1000x is a great option

>>61273019
Correct. It's much smaller.

>>61272998
The Phanteks whatever the fuck they call it is better than the bequiet coolers, and to my knowledge is the same price. Doesn't look as cool though, so its your choice. Also if I were you I'd spend the extra 20 quid and get the G3 850W just for quietness sake.

Also fuck me the 1080 is so much cheaper than the 1080Ti.

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>>61273036
>seasonic 1000w platinum
But that's not the EVGA T2 1000W.

>>61272870
>the shit to fix a second itx build is sold separately
How fucking jew can they be?

>>61273050
>Also if I were you I'd spend the extra 20 quid and get the G3 850W just for quietness sake.
Thanks for your suggestion. Initially I wanted to get the G3 750W but it appears to be out of stock everywhere in Denmark.
The same is pretty much the case with the 850 W, except for a few stores. But they sell it for double the price of the 650 W model ...

>>61273097
Pretty sure they include it but also sell a version without it. The one with all the shit included is the on I looked at for 170 €.

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>>61272998
Bequiet coolers perform well but they are an absolute bitch to install

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>>61272998
You might as well get an NH-D15 if you're spending that much money on a cooler. That leaves even the Dark Rock Pro 3 in the dirt and is quieter whilst doing it.

>>61273100
Ah I thought you were in the UK.

That's weird, I bought my PSU like a month ago and could swear a 1000W by Corsair/EVGA/Seasonic/Silverstone was like 110GBP, now they are like 140 or more.

>>61273059
oh fuck...i forgot of that one

>>61272635
Is the thing on the left not the case where they dropped the ball in regards to stuff in the top?

Do you have anything against CM, FD or NZXT?

>>61273147
>NH-D15
wow, that's terrifyingly huge.
I would rather find a cooler smaller than the bequiet one. Maybe the NH-U12S?

>>61272856
Unlike PC, they're often a better deal because mass by industry.

>>61273059
EVGA, Corsair, and Seasonic high end are all great.
Am partial to the Prime 12-year warranty though.

>>61273210
Why not just use the stock cooler then? It's perfectly adequate even for a moderate overclock.

>>61273050
>Also fuck me the 1080 is so much cheaper than the 1080Ti.
The 1080ti is 30-40% better than the 1080

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>>61273238
>tfw my PSU only has a 10 year warranty

>>61273254
Yeah and it's like 75% more expensive.

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>>61273254
Nah. It's around 16% faster at 1080p, 22% faster at 1440p and 26% faster at 4K.

>>61273249
I might just do that. I can always slap a cooler on it later. Thanks for the advice.

>>61273279
Anyone who buys a 1080 up and plays at 1080p is a moron

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>>61273203

Well NZXT makes the Noctis, so no I don't have anything against them.

I don't dislike any brand in particular, I do think the tempered glass thing is getting a bit out of hand, especially with Corsair, their new one with all glass looks like an inwin engineering sample. I just like phanteks.

Another case I like because of how unique it looks is the Bit fenix Pandora. But again, 360 rad support is a must, or else I need to go back to Air, which isn't so bad, I'd end up going Noctua.

>>61273309
If you max out absolutely everything you possibly can at 1080p in modern titles, even the 1080 can be stressed to reach consistent 60fps, to say nothing of 144.
Not saying playing at 16x AA is meaningful to the average user, but hey, it's another box you can tick.

>>61273309
But it's trivial to max out at 1080 at 1080p. Even The Witcher 3 with GoyWorks enabled drops frames at times (mostly in cutscenes), and TW3 is far from the most demanding game around. Watch Dogs 2 with TXAA enabled would murder even a 1080 Ti at 1080p.

>>61273210
Now I want to find the biggest CPU cooler I can and custom build a side panel that has the fan stinking outside of the case like some gaunty jet turbine

>>61273353
Simply buy a NZXT Phantom 410 and remove the side panel window.

>>61273371
Fuck you anon I just bought this. See you in a week with this dumb idea

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>>61273353

LOOK NO FURTHER

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>>61273402
>doesn't even obstruct the RAM slots

Pitiful.

>>61273353
Don't forget to post pics.

>>61273420

Only becase it extends further towards the I/O than a D15 does. Slap a 140mm delta (or equivalent) fan on Le Grand Macho and you could air cool skylake-x.

>>61273402
>>61273420
Jesus Christ... they're big but they don't look tall enough to stick outside of a case. Figure I'll have to weld up something custom to make it look as dumb as I imagine it in my head

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>>61273420
>stretches all the way from the IO to the furthest DIMM slot
Incredible.

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>>61273444
I got you, fampai.

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>>61273353

>this mother fucker slaps your girlfriend's butt in the club
>what the fuck you gonna do about it?

>>61273450

There is a reason why the D15 outperforms most 240mm AIO units.

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>>61273444

I have always unironically loved this shit

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>>61273462

I spin at 4000rpm and blow him....away.

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How important is ecc ram?
I'm going to buy a r5 1600 and a gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 mobo, but I've heard that these motherboards have some issues running ram properly.
I checked the mobo compatibility list and I found some ram I can buy from Best buy, but it says it's non ecc. I know what that means, but I'm unsure of how necessary that is.
Any insight would be appreciated.

>>61273528

Are you building a server or something?

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>>61273460
Fucking kek
>>61273462
>>61273480
>>61273481
Pic related is what I want it to look like

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>>61273444
or you could stop being poor and get a case that is the cooler

What's that stuff I've been reading about sudden temperature spikes on the i7-7700K?

Will this shorten the lifetime of a 7700K or is it literally nothing?

>>61273558

Honestly, check out the coolermaster V8.

You could replace/remove the LEDs and it's like the only cooler that has the logo going the right fucking way (literally why BeQuiet! ?).

It's also kind of hot rod looking.

I posted it here>>61273480

>>61273460
Seems pretty retarded, any big tower CPU cooler like the NHD15 or similar will do the same or better job running passively, and wont look half as gay.

>>61273559

>he posts engineering samples

neat. Unless they license to Lian Li or Inwin, this shit will never launch

>>61273279
That's not how mathematics works anon.
The statement
>1080 is 26% slower than 1080Ti
is not equivalent to
>1080Ti is 26% faster than 1080
because you are using a different reference to compare to (1080Ti, then 1080).
Going by the chart you posted, the actual results are:
>1080Ti is ~31.5% faster than 1080
>1080 is 26% slower than 1080Ti
The percentage changes based on which reference you use.

>>61273546
No it's just for my home computer.

>>61273609
>le semantics prove I'm right!!!!!

Fuck off, retard.

>>61273612

Just buy normie ram from newegg.

I've had 8gigs then 16 gigs of Gskil sniper for like 6+years and it's fine.

Don't believe RAM hype, it's a fucking racket.

i have a gtx 1070 which is connected to a tv (main display) and a smaller monitor (secondary display).

i have a hdmi cable going from the gpu to the hdmi in my tv and for the second monitor i have a dvi to hdmi cable. i have 2 questions:

1. why does windows always identify the monitor as display #1 and the tv as display #2? this is a bit of an issue because even though i've set the tv (display #2 in windows) as my primary display, some applications like games boot up on display #1 and it's a hassle to keep having to change display setting every time you boot up the game. is there any way to change the identities in windows?

2. because i'm using dvi to hdmi, i've read that dvi doesn't support higher resolutions and framerates like hdmi or display port does e.g. 4k60+. will i be limited to lower framerates if i ever decide to play something like an older game at 4k?

>>61273633
>math is semantics
Fuck off retard, you don't even grasp 6th grade math, are confused by something as basic as a percentage and can't even handle a single division operation to get the actual result.

>>61273668
>Please validate me!!!!!!

Fuck off, retard.

>>61273137
Fuck. I need me some breakfast

I bought an i5

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>>61273688
Have fun.

>>61273675
>validate objective truth
>that spacing
You are legitimately stupid, not even saying that as an insult, you actually appear to be dumb. Return from whence you came.

>>61272720
I don't know, anon

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>>61273567
When overclocking it can cause the temp to go near 90C. Recommended limit is 100C, so it's cutting it close. Can theoretically cause fans to periodically rev up, which is annoying.
>Will this shorten the lifetime of a 7700K
Probably not by anything significant. CPUs are notoriously reliable as long as the voltage levels are reasonable.

>>61273699
I'm not going anywhere. What now, bitch?

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If I'm building a 1080Ti SLI setup, is there anything stopping me using two fanless PSU's? Seasonic do a 520W one, I could use one just for the 4x8pin's for the two cards (with a jumper), then the other for the rest of the system?

>>61273695
lol
stock vs stock it outperforms all Ryzens

>>61273727
>1080ti in sli
>only 520w psu
wew

>>61273727
Just bite the bullet and get a large capacity unit.
All of the PSUs worth their salt at those wattages can operate in fanless mode when loads are low.

>>61273748
>can't read

>>61273638
Thanks anon.
Please have a good day!

>>61273740
Enjoy your 25fps.

>>61273761
I need it to be fully passive, the rest of the system is under water using fuckhueg radiators, temps are good without fans.

>>61273727

>2 PSU's

I just want to know why, when GPUs are more power efficient and higher wattage PSU's deliver cleaner power now.

Is it a moey thing? I can't imagine buying two seasonic PSU's is cost effective.

>>61273723
Hey at least you're not contradicting me on calling you legitimately stupid, so admitting to that is a start.

>>61273792

I did not see >>61273784

but why does it need to be silent? Are you an audio engineer or something?

>>61273792
I already have one, and I've had it a while. I could go buy some silly 1600W PSU but I'm not sure if it would remain fully passive at the 700-800W I think I'm system would be pulling.

>>61271940
this is one kind of niche fetish that i want to be part of

Is a Noctua U12s the best single tower cooler aside from U14? (Won't fit in my case) Not worried about the price.

>>61273807
Keep going, little buddy! Someone will surely validate you sooner or later. That'll make it a good day, won't it? :)

>>61273814
>but why does it need to be silent
It just bothers me, I'm a night owl so I mostly game when it's silent around.

>>61273784
Does your case even support 2x PSUs?
Even if it does, you are introducing more points of failure, complexity, and cost to the system. And for what? So when you are blasting sound when gaming, you won't be able to hear the tiniest decibels of PSU noise?
This sounds like a bad idea. I would advice against it. The cost is significant, the risk is high, and the payout low.

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>>61273839
Pretty much. It keeps up with the Corsair H100, a 240mm AIO.

>>61273849
>>61273830

I recommend what >>61273761 said

One 850~950 gold+ rated PSU would serve you fine. I'm positive corsair has one that funs passive when not under load.

Also, just get a set of cans to throw on and you won't hear a thing.

>>61273859
>Does your case even support 2x PSUs?
No, but it has a plenty big under floor compartment for PSU's and radiators and the like. I can pretty easily measure out the dimensions of the PSU, drill some holes and fit a bracket to stop it moving around. Can then wire the power cable through the water cooling grommets.

>>61273878

I really just want to see your guts now.

Pls ;~;

>>61273912
Never, that's lewd.

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Anything i could improve upon?

1080p/60hz (mostly AAA shooters)
GPU is a placeholder for vega or i might get a 1050ti untill mid range becomes affordable again.

>>61273950
Looks pretty good.

Vega is dead in the water, I wouldn't waste your time.

>>61273950

People will hate on it regardless, but it looks fine.

>>61273950
Motherboard is a complete waste of money. Either pay $20 more for the far better Prime X370-Pro, or pay a lot less for the Prime B350-Plus. Paying X370 prices for a B350 board makes no sense.

>>61273878
And is the compartment meant to dissipate the heat of not one, but two fanless PSU?
Don't kid yourself on the noise front either: fanless PSUs at high load exhibit nasty coil-whine pretty universally. If that's a bugbear for you, you're going to have a bad time.

It's your system and it could theoretically work. But if I were you, I'd pick up a single quality PSU, and be happy with what I have. Lots of risk, not much reward.

What's the best place/time to get a good power supply?

I'm trawling through newegg, but don't see any good deals atm. I had to throw out my old psu to make my mini-itx build easier to ship. I'd love to get something modular and as small as possible at 500W.

>>61273981
r/buildapcsales
inb4 >reddit

Vega will do rendering pretty good at least, right?

>>61273975
Yeah, the one I'm on right now used to whine at idle until I played with some motherboard settings like PS2 power on and C states, it still does a bit but not loud enough to hear when the case is closed, oddly it doesn't whine under load. What does whine under load is every graphics card I've ever had, but that's just a fact of life and not much I can do about it, I'm not about to RMA 30 GPU's in a row to get ones that don't whine.

>>61272532
have you just not heard of google. They are all over the place for like $260 or $270

>>61273950
For me the best B350 overall is the MSI Tomahawk. And it is cheaper than that one.

>>61273950
yeah, sucks that the GPU market is upside down.
get a cheaper B350 board, like the AsRock Pro 4 or something gigabyte.

I'd drop the WD and get a HGST Ultrastar 3TB for like$15 more

everything else seems fine, though the case is a bit expensive for mytastes. I would personally gor mATX (aling with the required board, of course)

>>61273996

Everything I've seen pegs Vega as a very niche GPU, at least right now, no drivers for developers, but also really not cost effective for gaming. I wouldn't pull the trigger on it.

>>61274018
>google
Link?

>>61273871
Default fans are not great on the h100, with better ones it pulls away

>>61273950
dude, for the love of god don't waste your money on a 1070 is has the worst price to performance in the game right now. for $50 more you can get a 1080. 1070's are mostly what the Ethereum dudes are snatching up right now.

>>61274023
>AsRock Pro 4 or something gigabyte

Horrible suggestions. ASCock's 3+3 phase VRM setup is garbage, and Gigabyte's is even worse. Most MSI boards (since they all use the same VRM setup) and the Asus Prime B350-Plus are the best options, apart from the massively-overpriced Strix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRG_LjUl8Q

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>>61271834
I want to build a librebootable desktop that is fairly high end. What do you guys suggest? Linked below is a list of the mother boards that are compatible with libreboot. I am willing to use any desktop or server motherboard.
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/

>>61273984
thx

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In AUD, I'm not too sure about the PSU, as I will want to add more drives in the future and maybe more RAM.

>>61274110
>450W PSU
Yeah nah son, I mean, it'll work just fine, but a 550-600W is like another 25% more expensive if that and will stop people laughing at you.

You really think women are going to be interested in you when you tell them your PSU is only capable of 450W?

>>61274060
>Most MSI boards
>He doesn't know about the constant issues with AM4 and how anons have trouble even to post.

>the videos he posted talked good about the Pro4, "should have no problem with overclicking a ryzen 8 core"
>"it's even better than the 4+2 from ANUS"
which is what it really comes down to.

>>61274110
>I have the same PSU model but 600W, and I know it's supposed to be shitty, but comes witha 5 year warranty and has worked flawlessly so I can recommend it In my experience. The cables are ugly color coded so you might want to have someting nicer for your side panel case, with some modularity to it. (I painted my PSU cables black, fuck it)
>quit your shitty choices with that seagate,get HGST UUltraster 3TB
>ever heard of that version of the 1070, might want to check reviews.

>>61274075
KCMA-D8 is probably sufficient, but KGPE-D16 is the best you can get with Libreboot. Everything else is pretty weak.

I personally have KCMA-D8 with dual Opteron 4280 and GTX 670. Also, be careful selecting RAM; Libreboot is really picky on these boards. I would stick to modules listed here: https://www.coreboot.org/Board:asus/kgpe-d16#RAM_HCL (list is valid for KCMA-D8 too)

>>61274293
How hard was the KCMA-D8 to libreboot?

>>61271934
did that bitch just install a heatsink without thermal paste?

>>61274315
The flashing itself was easy. Finding compatible components was a nightmare.

>>61274075
if you are on a budget the gigabyte one works with a core 2 quad and that can be fairly good. If you aren't on that much of a budget then you should get the d16 or d8.

>>61274339
Probably came applied already

>>61274257
>HGST UUltraster 3TB
They only have Seagate and Western Digital in stock.
That 1070 is the only one they have available, but when I call to order the parts in I'll see if they could possibly get any others.
And with the case, I do want to keep the window but I don't care at all with how pretty the thing is inside at all, I'd actually prefer it this way. I can't afford anything more expensive.

>>61274339
It's pre-applied on those stock coolers

>>61274376
In that case can you post your build so that I can have a list of confirmed compatible components?

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>>61273353
You haven't even seen big

Have a notcua u12s cooler for my 7700k, runs kinda hot ofc, would adding a second fan noticeably change my temps? Or would I have to upgrade the cooler altogether?

>>61273950
Good for 60hz. Unusable for 144.

RX 570s are in stock.
I repeat.
RX 570s are in stock.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126189

>>61274467
>Good for 60hz. Unusable for 144.
On a 1440 monitor?

>>61273774
aww does poor anon have ryzen remorse?

>>61274489
well, not anymore. That was quick.

>>61274407
Already mentioned most gotchas, but here:
KCMA-D8
Opteron 4280 (any 42XX is good) x2
Hynix/Hyundai HMT151R7BFR4C-H9 (4 GB, 1333) x4
GTX 670
Noctua NH-U9DO (good luck finding these. U12DO don't fit next to each other unless you remove a fan) x2
800 W PSU (500 worked fine too)
MIO-892 sound card (no onboard sound)

I also have a PIKE2008 card to use the extra 8 SATA ports, but I have been having trouble getting it to work.

what's the smallest case I can fit a 1080ti in that won't bake?

>>61274169
+1

>>61274537
No, because I own a 2600K, which thrashes the shit out of your CPU. And I bought that more than five years ago.

Enjoy your stuttering.

>>61274489
>>61274544

> "RX 570s are in stock"
> check 8 minutes later
> no longer in stock

Not sure if troll or if they just went fast. Locally there's not a single one anywhere.

>>61274605
>implying the miners didn't have builds ready and waiting for GPUs to come back in stock

>>61274590
Are people this delusional?

>>61273727
You wont need more than 750W if you use a decent CPU (90W~ TDP) DDR4 RAM and drives uses very low power, if you are so worried get a platinum PSU, it will be way more efficient less costly in the long run.

>>61274547
Thank you.

>>61274669
Are you literally too stupid to read a bar graph?

>>61274624
ETH is trading at $247 down from the top at $420.

Don't be so sure miners are throwing themselves at every single GPU that comes on the market anymore.

Judging from the 4h chart it's now the bear-market.

>>61274502
Yeah that can do 1440 no problem. Ryzen is really really fucking good for providing a stable 60 fps. All those cores keep your fps from varying. There is no reason to buy intel for that but if you want to do 144hz go 7700k.
1070 is plenty of power too. Overclock it though, it's trivial on pascal.

>>61274684
You'd be surprised....a lot of people are still expecting "the next wave"

>>61274624
Chinese probably have bots/scripts on the go to keep feeding their farming warehouses with compute units.
>>61274684
Fun part of ETH is that it will probably never have an ASIC like Bitcoin and other CCs because it demands memory. They will relly on GPU with high compute count until NANDs get cheap enough to build ASICs capable of giving profit. I read in some places that ETH have a ASIC check wich makes current ASICs machines unable to perform ETH mining. If you have an R9 290X, RX 480/570/580, GTX 1070/1080 and beyond, I suggest you to try mining at least while you're sleeping, you can get at least 100 bucks a month for doing nothing.

>>61273727
Go for a seriously overpowered semi-passive PSU instead of using two totally passive.

EVGA G-series and the Corsair RMi's and others are fanless below a given percentage of their capacity.

Beware that the EVGA G2's (and probably the G3) do have fans that are really loud and annoying. I use a 750W model with the semi-passive (on called "eco" for some reason) in a system that never draws enough to make it's fan kick in - so it's totally quiet. It's everything but quiet if you load it to full capacity. Corsair RMi PSUs are rather quiet even if you put a whole lot of load on them so they are better. It doesn't really matter since you won't hear either's fan over the fans of a dual graphics card setup anyway but it's something to be aware of.

>>61274758
>you can get at least 100 bucks a month for doing nothing
This is kind of off-topic for PC building.. but you're making it sound a lot simpler than it is.

Mining requires two things:

- The hardware
- The electricity

My power bill mining is almost exactly four times what it used to be. It's not really that net profitable. I have the impression many people completely ignore the cost of mining, perhaps they are young and naive or NEETs who let their partent(s) eat that bill.

>>61273950
1050ti is the safe buy for now, you will be able to do 1080p60 with it while fiddling with graphic options. On PC, first you gor for High FPS, then resolution, then graphic quality. At 1080p some ultra settings or special effects and post processing elements are irrelevant. Like 8x+ AA when 4x is just fine. Just keep fiddling with settings and you will notice lots of stuff that can be left at lower settings and you will not even notice.

(I usually turn down shadows a notch, never turn on motion blur, majority of games does not use it properly, never put AA above 8x, if FXAA doesnt give me any imagine improvement, like sometimes just give me a blurry and still blocky edge I turn it off. Nvidia gameworks like Tesselation and many other options are usually too demanding just to make something on the screen look slightly prettier so I mostly turn it off too.)

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>1080Ti at 2Ghz
>shitt old 3770K at 4.7ghz, 1.45v
>2 threads of prime95
>also running a game at 5120x2880
>100% cpu usage on all cores, 100% gpu usage
>only 500w from the wall

Why are 1500W PSU's a thing again?

>>61274851
off topic and I'm not >>61274758 , but do you recommend mining for a single gpu ryzen build (or just point to nicehash or smth)? I mean, with the stock cooler running and what not, the electricity used probably decreases profit a lot. cmiiw

>>61274884
R9 295x2, Titan Z, Fury Pro, and HEDT platforms

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp

Redpill me on VRM on this thing
Will it be shit for overclocking?

>>61274110
Try the MSI Tomahawk B350, for me it is the sweet spot of the B350 boards and probably cheaper than that one. You got enough RAM there for a while, unless you going heavily on multitasking, like, enterprise production 8k videos rendering while you watch some 4K porn site using chrome. and stream it through multiple channels using many stances of x-plit.
That PSU is laughable, if you try to overclock that gpu you will probably get close to 100% load, get at least, at least, a 550W 80PLUS Silver.

>>61274884
don't know, but you lways want a PSU rated for more than what you pull from the wall at 100%, so a 700W would suffice for your build.

and above 100W are for Multi GPU/CPU setups

>>61274339
Thats a stock cooler right? It alreadly comes with a thermal something on it, you remove the protection and install it.

>>61275008
I'm running it on a 400W Seasonic fanless.

Is it a bad idea to pair a 1060 with a 1080 144hz monitor? Will I get screen tearing if it can't hit 144 consistently?
I'm using a BenQ 60hz with it now and feel like I'm not getting the most out of my gpu.

>>61271934
Damn, is that on youtube, would just shitpost there about those cable management.

>>61274884
>Why are 1500W PSU's a thing again?
Marketing.
And increasingly, mining. Pushing multi-GPU Polaris can easily break 1000W.

>>61274973
That's a (3+3)+2 power phase set up. It's probably good for overclocking a 6-core to 3.9GHz at 1.35V or lower. 8-core is going to be tricky at those same speeds and voltages.

>>61275037
>Is it a bad idea to pair a 1060 with a 1080 144hz monitor?
Nope.

Will I get screen tearing if it can't hit 144 consistently?
And nope.

Screen tearing on a 144Hz monitor is so minimal it makes shit like gsync and freesync look like a total waste of time and effort, unless you're actively looking for it it's not going to bother you.

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Did I goof up ?

>>61275090
>not asus strix or gigabyte aorus
Get out.

>>61275102
This one was the cheapest

>>61275086
Why does AMD hate me? I want a good no-compromise mATX/mITX board, why are there none???
I'm not buying a new case because amd decided compact users must suck budget dick

>>61275107
>can afford 1080ti
>cant afford a good cooler
?

>>61275121
What's wrong with the cooler on the EVGA one ? All the cards preform the same anyways

>>61273695
what GPU were they using? Seems a bit dishonest to omit that detail from the chart, Gamernexus.

>>61275133
If noise doesn't bother you much, nothing at all.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/105259-evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-gaming/?page=12

If it does bother you, you done goofed ever so slightly. I doubt it'll be in any way loud though, the strix and aorus card are practically inaudible, so being a bit louder than them is hardly a big deal.

>All the cards preform the same anyways
True, they all do 1900-2000Ghz out the box and overclocking does very little to boost FPS, I don't know why.

>>61275158
I wear headphones, noise doesn't bother me at all

>>61275086
the 2 phases at the top are just for the SoC inside ryzen wich takes care of security stuff. They do not
influence in overclocking. This is a 6 phase vrm and you can go 4.0Ghz in an 8 core CPU but get 4.0GHz is silicon lottery.

>>61275187
Then you double done goofed son as you should have bought the Founders Edition which would not only look cooler (and thus allow you to attract women easier) but save cash.

You simply didn't think this purchase through at all, I'm very disappointed in you.

>>61275211
Does that imply that VRM is no better than here?
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/index.asp

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>>61271834
HELP ME
Pic related is my build. The build went well but when I plug everything in I get no display. The fans on everything (cpu, case fans, gpu) work, but no display.

The MB has an LED indicator and the CPU led is on, but the RAM isn't. I think this could be a RAM issue?

I've tried a lot of different things, I can share the rebbit link describing it later.

Please for the love of God HELP ME

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>hey guys get our brand new Skylake processors for the LGA 1151 socket, 5% improvement over last year's shit
>stay tuned for Canonlake and its 10nm die shrink for the 1151 socket go- guys
>we're having issues with 10nm, so have this small upgrade we'll call Kabylake, don't worry CL is on its way
>woops CL is not 10nm anymore, problems with manufacturing
>woops Cannonlake is not gonna be compatible with 1151, it's 14nm+ guys, you're going to need to buy a new motherboard for it

How can anyone justify this shitty behavior by Intel? They've gone an extra mile to be greedy now, Kabylake wasn't supposed to be the swan song of 1151, now they want you to buy a new motherboard solely for Cannon Lake? Will that mobo even be usable for the 10nm future chips? Are people gonna buy that 1151+ or whatever the fuck the CL chipset is gonna be called solely for CL?

What a raw deal, Ryzen really threw a wrench in Intel's gears.

>>61275288
>How can anyone justify this shitty behavior by Intel?
Name one (1) person who has attempted to justify it, or praise Intel for the X299 chipset release, or infact literally anything they've ever done in about 3 years.

>>61275287
To add, my GPU is shit because I can't find a good one for a good price

>>61275287
do you have the monitor plugged into the motherboard or the graphics card? Ryzen has no integrated graphics so you have to plug into the gpu.

>>61275337
of course I have it plugged into the GPU


I've been also letting the computer run for about 5-10 mins, since MSI tomahawk apparently has long boot up times for Ryzen

>>61275287
Usually when this happens.
>>61275347
And you aren't retarded, it's probably the RAM is toast.

That said, any number of components could be toast, a system not POSTing has a million causes.

I take it you don't have other components you can swap out to see what works and what doesn't?

>>61275376
>I take it you don't have other components you can swap out to see what works and what doesn't?
No because the only RAM I can swap out is DDR3, and it's at work.

I think the RAM is fine but the speed is too high for the MB bios to boot (?)

Forums online say they put in a slower stick of RAM and it boots, update the bios and the faster RAM works then.

I'll probably take it to a shop today

>>61275347
Ensure your monitor/cable is good by trying it on another machine or using known good monitor.
Ensure GPU is good ^
Ensure individual RAM is good ^ (maybe swap between slots also)
Ensure PSU is good ^
Ensure MB is good ^

>>61275424
unfortunately I dont have spare parts....

so I'll probably have to take it to a shop

At least I built this PC with money from a grant I got... thanks tax payers

>>61275136
>NZXT 1200W Hale90v2
>For DDR4 platforms: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz
>For DDR3 platforms: HyperX Savage 32GB 2400MHz (note: only 2133MHz was supported on our SNB platform)
>Intel 730 480GB SSD
>Open Air Test Bench
>Cooler #1 (Air): Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3
>Cooler #2 (Cheap liquid): Asetek 570LC w/ >Gentle Typhoon fan (this is the one we used for this particular article)
>Cooler #3 (High-end): Kraken X62
>Video Card: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW1
>Note: fan and pump settings are configured on a per-test basis.

>>61274991
I don't have plans to overclock the GPU at all.

>>61273967
Would the x370-pro be a better choice if i might upgrade to zen+ in a few years or should i just save money now an get a cheaper B350? I figured since the b350-f has a 6+2 VRM it would be a bit more futureproof.

>>61274467
I was thinking of going 1440p/144hz but i don't really feel like spending another 400-500 eurobucks on a new monitor along with a beefier graphics card. I know 7700k would be better for that but i'd prefer a more futureproof platform regardless. I guess i should stick to 1080p for now and maybe go 1440p/4k when zen3 rolls around.

>>61274023
Anything wrong with a WD blue or hitachi P300 1tb? I don't really need all this space, the SSD should be enough for all the games i'm looking to play this year. The HDD is just for random files and in case my SSD runs out of space.

I already bought the case for a decent price, i was thinking of going matx but i couldn't find a case to my liking(too big/inverted mobo/insufficient clearance).
400c seems to have great airflow and i like the compact size and hinged sidepanel.

>>61275318

/g/ was praising Intel's efforts right until ryzen delivered and suddenly like rats fleeing a sinking ship anon realised how badly he had been screwed all these years.

>>61275460
>>61274991
The Tomahawk also goes over budget and I hate the red colour-scheme.

>>61275459
the performance looks a bit shitty overall for a GTX 1080 at 1080p doesn't it

>>61275495
Grab a mortar arctic instead then

>>61275436
Try removing a single DIMM and using just one.
Move each single DIMM between each slot individually.

>>61275521
Even worse colors and doesn't have the USB ports I desire.
http://www.centrecom.com.au/wishlist/1fd9238d-37f8-485c-a2d4-a14721614c54
Updated list, also forgot to mention adding a sound-card in the future.

Is the Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 a good AM4 mobo? What about the MSI B350 PC mate? Or the Asus Prime B350-Plus? Or the MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic? The last two are the most expensive.

>>61275461
*Toshiba P300

>>61275533
I tried that too :(

>>61275318
Lynus.

>>61275611
Even Linus didn't defend X299 and caled out Intel on their BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

>>61275037
>>61275088
What's the best sub $300 144hz monitor? Figured I'd sacrifice for a 1080 TN panel and avoid goysync since I might get an AMD card after my 1060.
Debating between the AOC G2460PF, Viewsonic XG2401, BenQ XL2411 or Asus VG248QE.

what's the best lga 1150 cpu available? apparently ryzen and skylake + kaby lake don't support windows 7

so far my options appear to be either a used xeon or the devil's canyon i7

Just built parents a computer. It powers on then shuts off in about 5 seconds and then turns back on. No display. I've already reseated the ram and CPU, and replugged all of the connections from the case and power supply. is something broken? I have no way to test these parts sadly because my personal computer is still running Intel 4 gen and ddr3... Help a brother out?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKDjxY

Is this okay for running overwatch at 150+ frames on lowest settings and maybe streaming?

>>61275461
The X370-Pro seems like a solid investment if you plan to use it for many years and possibly move to more cores in the future. AM4 is going to be around for a long time. The VRMs on the current B350 boards get very hot when overclocking the octa cores. In terms of build quality it's way ahead of any of the mid-range X370 boards, let alone B350 ones. It uses the same TI NexFETs as the Crosshair VI and ASCock Taichi, making it the only other board to do so. It's priced very reasonably at $150 too.

>>61275658

If using multiple dimms remove all but one. Sounds a lot like ram training is failing.

>>61275683
More than okay. You'd be better off with the Asus Prime B350-Plus or MSI Tomahawk in terms of the motherboard though. Gigabyte's B350 boards aren't the best.

>>61275696
I've tried both sticks by themselves. No luck, Unless they both are broken.

>>61275724

I am assuming the motherboard actually supports the cpu out of the box - it does right?

>>61275658
Remove all components but what is necessary to POST. Just MB, CPU, RAM, PSU. Don't even use GPU.
If it still fails, you've at least narrowed it down. If the CPU paste is fine, try a different PSU or RAM (or verify them in another machine). If that's not it, it's probably the MB.

>>61275741
I'm not sure exactly what you mean? Are you talking bios update?

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Pc wont boot please help me nothing will turn on!

>>61275766
Are you trying a run a 95W part in a 65W supporting MB?
Also, fuck you for not posting specs.

>>61275766
Just state the CPU and motherboard that you're using.

>>61275221
A whopping 10 dollar difference, I really fucked up didn't I? Don't founder's edition cards preform worse anyway? I like the all black look of the EVGA one, it fits with the rest of my build

>>61275792
ASRock b150m-DVS r2.0 Mobo and i3 7100

>>61275808
Then you're probably shit out of luck. B150 boards require a BIOS update to support Kaby Lake CPUs. You'll need to buy a cheap Skylake Celeron to update the BIOS with. Just return it to Amazon afterwards.

>>61275784
nothing happens at all? clearly something isn't getting power that's supposed to

wall > power supply first
then power supply switch
then psu to mobo cable, psu to cpu cable, case power button to mobo headers

if those are done properly then there should be lights or beeps or something at least

>>61275827
Alright thanks for the help.

>>61275808
>B150
>KBL
Unless people were reporting KBL BIOS preinstalled, you fucked up.
See how useful posting specs are?

if GPU prices aren't fixed by fall, should I just forget about getting a freesync monitor and grab a 1050Ti should they not go up further in price?

>>61275801
>Don't founder's edition cards preform worse anyway?
Nope they don't provided you have enough voltage and thermals for GPU boost.

Will 1TB SSDs get significantly cheaper in the next 3 years?
Will 120+ Hz IPS monitors that truly have 5ms or less response time ever exist?

>>61271955
Ill sell you my GTX 960 for only 120% MSRP

>>61275801
>A whopping 10 dollar difference
Think of what you could have spent that 10 dollars on, so many opportunities you're going to miss out on.

>>61275801
Yep, only now are you realising the gravity of what you've done.

If anyone is looking to build a Ryzen pc right now and is concerned about GPU prices, Newegg has some combo deals of 1700x+RX 580 8GB for all around $600 right now meaning you'd be getting the 580 for nearly what it should be worth.

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>>61276019

>>61275976
No.
Yes. There are already some monitors at the 5ms barrier

>>61276055
Those monitors are VA or their tested times is much worse than advertised.

>>61276237
http://www.pcgamer.com/asus-pg279q-monitor-may-be-the-new-best-gaming-monitor/
Unless you think the reviewers all got paid off

guys i need help getting an operating system on my new computer. I got it up and running with the free version of windows. where do i get a product key for not retail? or is that the only way?

>>61275845
do not plug your power supply into the wall until you have everything else connected. then plug it in and switch the power supply switch then turn the pc on with the case power button. this wont fix your problem but just an fyi.

>>61276250
PCGamer doesn't know shit.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg279q.htm
Its still decent but 27 inches is too big for me at 1440p. Id pay $500 for a 24.5 inch model that dropped g-sync and freesync entirely

So I've done research and know that the Pentium G4600/620 is better than my current A8-6600K but how much better would you guys say it is? I know I could go for better CPU's but I want to make a 'cheap' as possible gaming station.

For my case I picked https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811146190

Not worried about but wondering exactly how the air flows.
It comes with two exhaust fans mounted at the back and top, with slots for two at the front for intake and a dust filter.

With or without the intake fans, where is it pulling the air from if the front panel is on?

>>61276513
>Pentium G4600
Just buy a used 3570K.

>>61276563
Yeah, and then pay the inflated price for an LGA 1155 motherboard, along with some DDR3 that'll be useless in any future build. Good plan.

>>61276596
A Z77 board is peanuts, what planet are you on?

>DDR3
>usle-

Oh, I see you're putting this together as a build to tide you over for a while because you're dumb as shit and can't wait to get something worth using.

Unless you're playing Minecraft or LoL don't buy a fucking Pentium you dumb shit.

Whats a good case to get for around $50?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZLPfBP

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>>61276644
>corsair cx psu
>8gb ram
>caviar blue
Nawww, those are some cute choices, sweetie.

>>61276563
don't the mistake of buying shitty used silicon that's probably degraded

>>61276711
>oy vey only buy new goy, don't want to risk degredation!
Spotted the Intel shill.

Whatever hardware is in your computer right now will probably outlast you, faggot shill.

>>61275693
Sounds good, i'll go with the x370-pro then. Thanks anon!

>>61274871
I could live with a 1050ti for a while but i'd prefer to get a 1070-tier vega card if possible.
That way i could crank everything up to ultra and it would cost about the same in the end.

>>61276711
Of all computer components, CPUs are by far the most reliable. Unless someone fucked with power draw, they far outlive their usefulness.

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>>61276626
I'm not him, you dumb sack of shit. I'm just telling you that your advice is fucking trash.

The only Z77 boards that are "peanuts" are complete garbage, and used garbage at that. The idea of investing money in DDR3 is absolutely fucking retarded. The idea that anybody would recommend buying some in 2017 along with a dead platform with no upgrade path is amazing. You then have the fucking nerve to criticise another "tide you over" option as being stupid.

Only the biggest fucking retards on this board would recommend buying an i5, let alone a fucking i5 on a dead platform. Unless you're playing Minecraft or LoL, don't buy a fucking i5 you dumb shit.

>>61276761
>>61276761

creating early for a slight change

>>61276563
>don't buy a G4560
>buy an i5 that offers around the same performance on a dead platform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwB1KRMpFdw

Neck yourself.

>>61276747
>>61276626
>>61276563
Sorry for starting something lol just looking for a 'cheap' build that's better than my current. Probably won't be play super heavy games, most likely indie and actually Minecraft

>>61276683
Not an argument

>>61276747
You're a fucking fat nigger.

Go price up a Z77 board, some DDR3 and a 3570K on eBay. Unless you live in fucking Eastern Europe, chances are it'll come out at around 35% of what it would cost you to put together a 7700K, a Z270 and DDR4.

If he is JUST gaming, a 3570K performs within 20% of a 7700K in 99.99999999999999% of titles in the real world Do you really think someone who is pricing up a fucking Pentium gives a shit about an extra 20%? Anything Sandy Bridge onwards and with four cores is more than fucking plenty unless you have way too much money or have a high amount of autism.

Nice cherry picked 1080p benchmark by the way, fucking fat nigger.

>>61276803
>Probably won't be play super heavy games
Thanks for proving my point.

>>61271834
My computer's been climbing to ~95 Celsius when playing GTAV. I have an i7-6700K, and have been looking to update my cooler. Trouble is, I also need a new power supply as well. I have ~$400 CAD to spend on everything, but going a little over is acceptable.
>i7-6700K
>MSI Z170 Mortar
>GTX 1070 STRIX
>16GB 3000hz Corsair DDR4
>H55
>3 Noctua Case Fans

>>61276786
>an i5 performs the same as a G4560
Sure and I bet your Civic is as fast as a Lambo.

>>61276847
>new PSU and CPU cooler
>$400
You planning on getting those components gold plated?

>>61276513
>Multi-threaded
Notably faster, but not the biggest upgrade ever.
>Single-threaded
A world of difference.

Usually GPU is what holds back gaming but a HT Pentium is fine if that's the bottleneck.

>>61276860
I said I also need a motherboard, and from my past experience choosing those parts I must be handicapped so I thought I'd ask for some help

>>61276910
>I said I also need a motherboard
no u didnt dude

>>61276895
Im pairing it with 1050ti I already have. But I'm also not a heavy gamer with most of the games I'm playing being indie games, like Inside and Limbo. Heaviest game I have is Skyrim but i rarely play.

>>61276922
Oh my bad, I just woke up. I also need a new motherboard

>>61275401
Just buy a 4GB stick.. probably cheaper than a repair shop and you get to keep the RAM for diagnostic or whatever purposes

>>61271934
>You will never meet a cute taiwanese girl

>>61275461
7700k is not better at 1440@144 you'll hit gpu bounds before cpu for most recent titles