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I recently purchased pic related. From what I've read, it works best with a R5 1600, but I was wondering if I could bump up to an R7 instead. I guess it would be compatible either way with everything I have, but I don't know about performance. Anyone have any experience with Gigabyte motherboards?

>>61260816
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TJfBP

I don't understand exactly why I'd need a large SSD.
I have previous HDDs to reuse, and would eventually get a dedicated large capacity second drive.

Another question I have is the cabling. While I do have SATA cables, do they come included?
Are they something stupid like USB where older is slower or can I use what I already have?

>>61260887
>it works best with a R5 1600
It doesn't work best with anything, it works well period
Yeah, it'll handle an overclocked R7 if you want

Could someone post some home media servers/seedbox examples? I have no clue if I need a lot of power or what.

>>61260954
>do they come included?
2 from motherboard

>>61260822
Wish de-liding was this easy.

For around the same price should I be going for short or full length GPUs?

Which would give me the lowest temps at idle and under load?

Give me some good silent cases, please.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/XXzHxr
Is there anything I could change on this to get the same performance for less? I have an ssd from my old pc that I will be taking.

>>61260954
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qz68BP

Welp.

How important is a rear exhaust magnetic dust filter?
This will primarily sit in a desk cubby with an open back, but still close to the wall.

Best mATX Ryzen board out there? Was thinking of buying AB350m pro4, are there better options?

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How do I make my work on oil instead of electricity? Much cheaper in my country.

>>61260589

Plz respond

>>61261305
I think it's called "a generator".

>>61261152
Never heard of Team memory, did you check the mobo's QVL to make sure it'll work? If not it probably won't hit 3200 MHz.

>>61261315
Phantecks Luxe Tempered comes to mind, just don't turn on the leds if don't want them. They're pretty subdued anyway

I was planning to get a Noctua U12s. Is there a better single tower cooler? U14 is too big for my case or I'd get that.
Is it worth jumping to a D15s for a 4.0 overclock on a 1600?

>>61261335
No it has to run this on oil not electricity.

>>61261377
>get an H7
Apparently Cryorig is taking forever to ship brackets and they're difficult to install anyways.

>>61261392
Buy a gun, lube it up with oil and shoot yourself

Are there any features/properties worth considering besides price and general performance when choosing between an Intel or an AMD cpu?
I know Intel has Optane but I don't think I'm going to use that anyway. Does AMD have any "special features"?

>>61261403
Can't buy a gun here.

>>61261591
lube yourself with oil and shoot yourself!

>>61261606
Without a gun how?

>>61260822
I want to build a librebootable mashine thats fairly high end. What do you reccomend? List of compatible motherboards here:
https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/

>>61260887
Will handle an r7 at stock but VRMs might get toasty if you overclock.

>>61261591
Lube yourself with oil and insult bouncers at a nightclub. Light yourself on fire and wrestle them.

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>>61261751
>toasty

>>61261113
Don't get a one fan card for anything higher than a 1050ti. It'll run hotter and louder.

what would be a better mb for a r5 1600? I was going to buy the

MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4

Or possibly the GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming mb.

I'm unsure of the difference it would make for a gaming build.

my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLcThq

>>61261984
Leveraging off your question since your build includes a question I have.

Wiki and other sources claim most bundled coolers (like the R5 1600) come with thermal paste pre-applied. Is it worth the bit to use something else?

>>61262035
Might reduce temps a bit but not dramatically. I always apply my own but I have a big syringe of Gelid GC Extreme just itching to be used so...

>>61261984
Why are you comparing an ATX and μATX board with differing chipsets? I'll just assume you're willing to go ATX with the X370 chipset. Your parts list also has the MSI BAZOOKA and not the GAMING PRO.

You probably should look at the MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON or the GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming K5. Based on the reviews I would lean MSI but I have little to base that on, maybe others can chime in.

>>61261984
that's a massive case for a micro atx board lmao

>>61261984
Your build seems imbalanced to me, what exactly is your budget? Also please don't buy a 1070 for $500 that is fucking highway robbery I swear to god

>>61261760
Now that looks fun

>>61262582
Really? Imbalanced in what sense? I bought the GTX 1070 when it was $400, I'm just getting the other parts now.

I'm going from an i5-4460 to an i5-4570 or so for free.
Will it last me one more year than an i5-4460 would? I don't think that's much of a difference.

>>61262757
Well that's good. I say that because you have a micro atx board in a full tower case with a CPU that barely costs more than the case. It's odd.. typically you would proportion things differently with more given to the CPU and board and a bit less on the case. Unless you're planning to switch the CPU/board out soon or something then it makes sense.

>>61261248
Dust filters arent needed on exhaust fans

If I can buy the GTX 1080 for $600 should I just make the jump to the Ti for $100 more? I have room in my budget and just want to make sure my vidya is as smooth as possible but I've never experienced running at 144hz.

Evo or Pro for samsung 2.5 ssd

>>61262765
Just 200 more mhz so barely any difference

>>61262765
Not even single digit gains
They're mostly different in their iGPUs

>>61262765
That's almost a sideways move, pretty much pointless unless you use the iGPU which you shouldn't be.

>>61262814
At 1920x1080 I doubt it would even matter for most games. At 1440 or 21:9 1080 or higher it would definitely be preferable.

>>61262824
NVMe if you can, otherwise it doesn't make much difference IMO unless you want a longer warranty with the Pro.

>>61260822
why are fken idiots recommending fken pentiums i cant fken wrap my mind about that for fuck sake look at the frame timing on those cpus its fken TRASHHH

How can I adapt my Evo 212 for a Ryzen?

>>61261291
The MSI B350M Mortar. It has the best VRM setup. Don't be fooled by all those chokes on the ASCock board, it's only a 3-phase CPU VRM. They just used twice the number of necessary components for each phase to make it LOOK like a 6-phase setup to the naked eye. In reality it's only 3+3 (not even doubled).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

>>61261349
Team Group are pretty well known, at least in Europe. They're fine.

>>61263076
Order an AM4 kit from Cooler Master or buy a Crosshair VI, since it has AM3 mounting holes.

ASUS PRIME B350-A (rev. 1.0)
or
Gigabyte GA-AB350M-DS2

Which is the better mobo? They're pretty much the same price.

>>61263103
>>61263076

You still need an AM3 backplate though because the CH6 comes with the AM4 backplate, unless the Evo 212 comes with one then you're good.

>>61263234
I got shit wrong, the (rev 1.0) is for the Gigabyte one

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So when do the next models of GPUs (vega and the next nvidia, whatever it's called) come out?

It looks like mining isn't magically going to disappear in the next few weeks, so maybe I'll just wait since everything's out of stock anyways.

>>61263234
They're both shit to be honest. The Asus looks slightly less shit though, just from eyeballing it.

>>61263244
The Hyper 212 has its own backplate, even for AM3 systems.

SuperBiiz lists the R6 1600 for $200 then cheapest shipping is $15

Anything to do about it?

Is LogicalIncrements a decent start to look for a new monitor? Don't know if going from 60 to 144hz will be as noticeable compared to jumping from 30 to 60hz. Hoping $400USD is enough for something decent.

>>61262883
Noted. Currently looking for a 1440p monitor, which should be a decent upgrade from my old Acer G185HV.

>>61260822
Alright I want to build a new computer with a "Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor" but and I want to make full use of it what do I need to get?

I already have a GTX 980 graphics card so I don't need a new one.

My budget is $800. Can I do it? What parts should I get?

>>61263525
welp $10 off coupon, barbecue

>>61261361

Doesn't look bad, but not a fan of the drive bays at the top, or the covers on the front. Ideally I'd want the define c with tempered glass. Fractal design refuses to stop using plastic it seems

If my 1060 is hitting around 100 fps in games, will there be screen tearing if I get a 144hz monitor without gsync? I figure I'll get an AMD card in the future so I'd rather get a freesync now.
Would lowering the refresh rate help with the tearing? Was hoping to get an AOC G2460PF during the Prime sale, assuming it doesn't suck.

>>61263766
You can lower the refresh rate to 60, 100 or 120fps if you can't hit 144. Screen tearing isn't as bad at 144Hz either way though, since you can only see the tear for 1/144th of a second.

Any suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gmz7jc

Mainly just browsing and 1080p/60hz gaming
1070 is a placeholder, i might go with the cheapest vega card or get a 1050ti until i can get a mid-range card again.

I was thinking of going 1440p/144hz but i didn't really want to stretch my budget by 50% for a new monitor so i'll just stick to 1080p for now.
It's already a considerable upgrade since i'm still using an ancient core2duo.

>>61264029
If that's so, why are people shelling out an extra $200 for gsync?

>>61263602
Start by getting a "AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor" instead. The 7700K is a complete waste of time and money unless you have a 144Hz+ monitor and the graphics card to drive it.

>>61263766
Lowering the refresh rate will make it worse. Tearing is less noticeable at higher refresh rates, but it's still noticeable.

>>61264305
Marketing. Gaymers are some of the dumbest people on the planet. I'd rather have the tearing than pay for GoySync. Shame AMD can't get their fucking act together on the graphics card front.

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>>61260822
>7700k

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Anyone able to tell me if my power supply is dying?

>>61264467
>software voltage readings

Get your probes out, fuccboi.

>>61264465
Fuck off shill.

>>61264485
They are my Bios voltage readings.
I don't have a multimeter

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>>61264530
>I don't have a multimeter

>>61264029
>>61264401
I'll skip on the gsync tax then. Is the AOC G2460PF a good monitor? I've seen it recommended here but there aren't many reviews.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTH2Cy

Budget: 1200.- CHF

Should be a LAN party pc. Any improvments?

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Newfag question here:

I upgraded my MOBO, the old one came with bios while this one with UEFI support. I had dual boot (w7-linux mint).

After upgrading windows will crash at the loading logo and will cause the pc to reboot. Will formating everything fix it? Linux works just fine.

>>61264881
Not using an i5 7500 and instead going for an R5 1600 for better performance
No idea if you already have the cooler but it's unneeded

>>61264881
>i5

Jesus fuck, anon. Get it together.

>talking about monitors
Oh shit.

Was looking to get an ultra-wide curved VA panel, but decided to try a cheaper test-monitor first & re-evaluate when the new VAs come out.

Should I get a cheaper VA to see how the ghosting looks, or a cheaper IPS to see how the BLB looks & to compare color/picture qualities when I order the VA?

Figure it'd be wise to get it as a curved/ultrawide too, to see if those're worth it before a bigger purchase.

>>61264401
>144Hz+ monitor
I have an AOC monitor that goes up to 144hz and a Vive headset.

>>61265031
>144hz monitor
>drives it with a 980

>>61265031
You also have a GTX 980.

what's a good budget HDD?
I don't want to spend too much on it and I need an HDD to install video games and store stuff. I only have an SSD for OS and programs right now

>>61265021
What would you recommend?

GPU situation change at all in the last couple weeks?

Do I need >60hz for vidya? Is running at 120/144hz mostly to make things look a bit smoother and not be as big of an eyesore when frames dip?

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For OS, 10 and KMS?

>>61265110
An R5 1600. Same price, two extra cores, eight extra threads, same single thread performance as that i5 (and more if you overclock). Plus it comes with a a decent cooler. It's an absolute no-brainer.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tDZwQV

>>61265182
You'll still notice significant dips, and yes things are smoother. Thing is, the smoothness also means it's easier to see fast-moving objects/make out quick-moving scenery. Something that's nice to have in applicable vidya.

120/144hz > 4k

Finished upgrading to Ryzen 1600x and my GPU fries itself. Had an R9 380 4gb, should I wait for the prices to drop, or is there something you recommend?

>>61265177
Yeah, for worse. Everything's gotten more expensive, even 1050ti.

>>61265272
Why can't you RMA the 380? Unless you bought it on launch day and it only had a two year warranty, it should still be covered.

>>61265226
install gentoo

>>61265305
gentoo shall be my main, though

>>61265303
It's been 2 years already unfortunately

>>61265272
Find a cheap placeholder, and ride out the storm.
The mining craze is so severe, it's driving up the prices of even non-mining cards, even on the secondary market. Used GTX 970s are going for $200 on ebay.
Between this, SSD and RAM prices, building a gaming PC now is a huge mistake. At least when it ends, there will be a glut of cheap GPUs.

Is Toshiba still shit for HDD? I wanna get this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149407&cm_re=2tb-_-22-149-407-_-Product

>>61266040
Get hgst ultrastar 3tb for $4 more

>>61265272
Sorry dude, you're SOL for the time being, maybe guy solething used and cheap and resell it later, that way you lose the less possible

Fortunately it seems Vega is so bad you'll be able to buy one at non-inflated prices.

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>>61260822
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NwjZyf

About to pull the trigger on this one, any feedback is appreciated. I also plan on buying a couple AOC G2460PF monitors and a couple more case fans, maybe cable extensions if I need it for a tidy tower. All the manual prices are what I'm buying from the local Microcenter, the CPU and MOBO are a bundle. I'd get a 1700 and just use the Wraith cooler if it wasn't out of stock. SSD, HDD and PSU are recent purchases to hold me over from failing parts on my current toaster that I'll carry over with a clean W10 install on the Samsung.

Only thing now is to decide if going to a shady site for free or discounted (Kinguin) Windows 10 or if I should not bother and get it legitimately for my vidya.

>>61266214
Its gaming performance is completely irrelevant to its mining performance. If anything, it seems to thrive in non-gaming workloads. Your post makes no sense.

I want a wraith max LED cooler so bad

Why the fuck would I get ryzen when you need to fucking ghetto hack it for it to work on windows 7

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>>61260822
>7700k
no one buys this shit stop being autistic and stop putting it in there

>>61266367
(you)

>>61266459
You're not funny.

>>61266476
stop spamming

>>61266217
Why not just buy a 1440p/144hz monitor instead? First off you're only really going to be using one of those monitors to game on and the money you spend for 144hz on the other will pretty much just go to waste.

I don't get it.

If I use all 4 slots on a Ryzen/AM4 motherboard, I can only do 2133 MHz officially?

And 2 slots, 2666 max?

Ignoring OCing of course, was thinking of getting a 32gb quad kit but might just get a 2x 16 kit if its because of memory slot limitations.

>>61266459
Stop sperging about CPUs you autistic shill.

>>61266540
No. It entirely depends on what RAM you buy. You can guarantee 3200MHz in two slots with Samsung B-die sticks (generally CL14 at 3200MHz instead of CL16 like most kits).

>>61266726
>You can guarantee 3200MHz in two slots with Samsung B-die sticks
That itself also depends on the motherboard

>>61266753
I don't know of a single board that won't do 3200MHz with Samsung B-die sticks. Even B350 boards will. Maybe something on the really, really low end.

What do you do with your old builds /g/? I'm building a second computer for my brother using the parts I upgrade from in my rig.

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>>61266693
>mommy hes disagreeing with me, SHILL SHILL

>>61265278
fug

>>61266857
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/61137014/#61139837
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/61126956/#61131090
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/61103494/#61107579

Neck yourself you degenerate trash

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>>61266872
>pajeet gets triggered by memes

>>61266888
see >>61266857

>>61266913
(you)

>>61266824
>new builds
>not reusing the case from the old one
wut

Should I "side-grade" to a 1080 and wait for the next generation of cards? Or should I just splurge and buy a 1080ti? I'm in the process of acquiring a 1440p/144hz monitor, I currently have a 1080/144hz.

>>61266824
I sell anything that's removed from my machine. I used to keep another graphics card around as a backup, but the spike in 290X prices convinced me to sell it recently. I still have the first motherboard I ever bought though, a Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P, along with the 4GB of 1333MHz DDR3 I bought at the same time. Used it as recently as February, when I bought a 1090T to fuck around with after selling my 6700K in preparation for Ryzen. Handled a 4GHz/1.45V overclock like a champ.

Is a 970 a solid card for high end gaming with only 1080p? There's a fuck load of them on the market round here for 2-300

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>>61267018
Yeah.

What's the best IPS panel for <250$?

>>61267043
Is that fps? Jesus christ how does a 960 outperform the 970?

>>61267083
because the magic of 3.5

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What wattage PSU would I need for an i5-750 + amd 6770?

Putting together my old machine just for eroge.

When the mining craze ends, will the market get flooded with really cheap 570s and 580s?

>>61267252
hopefully

>>61267252
>>61267261
>Type in 390x to see if I can find some cheap cards
>GREAT FOR MINING
>GREAT FOR MINING
>GREAT FOR MINING
>GREAT FOR MINING
>GREAT FOR MINING

Okay guys, be completely honest with me. WD drives or Seagate drives at this point?

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>>61266525
You're right about the waste, keeping a $450 budget I come up with the Acer XG270HU. If that's as good as the reviews and logical increments says then I could get a mount for my Acer G185HV. Main reason I want a second monitor to keep everything visible with my games hogging the first.

>>61267332
SSD for OS, seagate for data, backup important stuff to external

>>61267018
Yeah. HuB did a video on it recently as well as that German YouTuber. Both found it to be perfectly capable of modern games with performance coming in about 580/1060 levels when OC. Really good gpu if you can get it at 1050ti/rx 570 prices (pre mining prices not current inflated prices).

>>61267332
I just use a wd blue. Toshiba p300 are supposed to be nearly as fast and quieter than Seagate.

I'm looking at buying a new monitor. I'm look at either a 2k or a 4k monitor. My OS is shit for scaling, so I need something that is reasonable at 100%.

I don't do any gaymen, so it's all about productivity. I sit about 2 feet away from the monitor. My budget is $300-500 I was thinking a 32" 2k monitor, which works out to 91ppi, which is the same as my current dual FHD monitor setup.

Does anyone have any ideas?

>>61267418
Thanks man. What about a 980ti? I found a few for under $400 (aussie dollars). That seems pretty solid and seems to outperform my 1060 according to >>61267043

Correct me if I'm wrong, SATA is preferable for boot because it boots before NVMe? Are there any companies I should favor/avoid or are storage solutions mostly the same.

>>61267452
980ti is pretty much on par with a gtx 1070. Don't know much about Australian pricing but if there are any 1070s going for around the same price as the 980 ti I'd get the 1070 every time. If the 980 ti's are much cheaper then I'd get that instead.

980 ti is still a top gpu and powers through anything you throw at it at 1080p and in most games at 1440p. It also overclocks like crazy and an extra 15-20% of performance can be extracted.

https://youtu.be/AkE8mtVv_yg

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OP needs to be updated, this is like months old.

The following builds are oriented towards gamers with no cpu overclocking intentions. All featured builds feature a windowed case paired with a fully modular psu. Windows is included, a cd drive is not. However; it's unnecessary because the installation comes with a usb stick.


$700
>Pentium G4560 - 3.5GHz Dual Core w/ Hyperthreading, 8GB DDR4-2400 CL 16, 500GB SSD, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB

$1,000
>Ryzen 5 1400 - 3.2GHz Quad Core w/ SMT, 8GB DDR4-3200 CL 16, 500GB SSD, GTX 1060 6GB

$1,200
>Ryzen 5 1500X - 3.5GHz Quad Core w/ SMT, 8GB DDR4-3200 CL 16, 500GB SSD, GTX 1070 8GB

$1,550
>Ryzen 5 1600 - 3.2 GHz Hexa Core w/ SMT, 16GB DDR4-3200 CL 16, 500GB SSD, GTX 1080 Ti 11GB

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>>61267590

$700
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/Mts999

$1,000
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/gjhVnQ

$1,200
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/BRR23C

$1,550
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/KTDGXL

>>61267590
If you're spending $1000, should just bump up to a 1600.

>>61267668
Price points, pal. There is a part that meets every single one.

>>61267291
>looking thru local ads
>live in irreverent city, canada
>"building custom mining rigs from 5k to 10k"

>>61267590
>this is like months old.
Lol no it isn't, the OP has seen it's fair number of changes in the past two months

And i disagree with your way of thinking that there's go-to builds depending on price point. Every user has very different need and as such every user will have to spend his money differently, let's take an example: your $1000 build has an R5 1400, an a320 motherboard, 3200MHz RAM and a 500GB SSD (on top of buying windows). The average gamer would be much much more comfortable on an R5 1600 + b350 + 12/16GB + small cooler, pirating windows and two 1TB hard drives (one of Windows & one for games), and it'd probably perform noticeably better even. In my case your $1000 build would be complete dogshit for me too because i'd benefit more from R7 1700 + 1050ti than 1400 + 1070 or whatever you wanna pick. Stop with the way of thinking that X price points = X builds, the distribution of price in a $1000 component list can and do change very heavily based on user
>>61267683
No there is not.

>>61267590
>>61267606
>$1000 build
>low end 4c ryzen
>midrange gpu
>$150 ssd

Is this bait? You can literally get a ryzen 1600 and gtx 1070 for that budget if you get a regular 500gb/1tb hdd.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9m4sNN

You can save like $50 off the OS by getting an eBay code from a reputable dealer too.

>>61267748
One large SSD is superior than one small SSD + one large HDD.

>low end 4C Ryzen
That quad will demolish every single 2017 title 60fps+

>ebay code
This is viable, but if you want to do it legitimate, I gave the option.

>>61262883
A 1060 is fine for most games at 1440p, a 1070 is more than enough. A 1080 for 1440p gaming is idiotic. For 1080p you could use a 1050tu for most games but if you're planning on playing some demanding titles a 1060 would be better.

>>61267748
Ssds are basically mandatory for new builds now. But you could get away with a much cheaper one, even 120gb is fine just for your OS.

>>61267800
>Ssds are basically mandatory for new builds now.
Explain why.

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How much does ram speed effect games? I have 16gb of ram but only 800 speed unit thingies

>>61267794
>A 1060 is fine for most games at 1440p
With lowered settings right? Not the anon you're responding but I'm debating between a 1440 or 144hz 1080 to go with a 1060.

>>61267812

Facts:
A new SSD from today will last longer than a new HDD
SSDs are significantly faster than HDDs
SSDs use less electricity than HDDs


>>61267822

If you're on an Intel chip, not much at all.
With a Ryzen chip, a small fps gain would come from higher frequency memory.

Not really a PC component, but anyone got any router suggestions?

>>61267830
I'm running a 1060 and I'm finding dying light is stable at medium-high on a 1080p screen

>>61267812
Instant boot. I legitimately gasped the first time I booted Windows off of SSD.

Also you should have two drives anyway, putting personal data on C: is retarded. This way if you have to reinstall you don't have to worry about lost data. Might as well go SSD and HDD for storage. Separate data drive means OS and driver updates don't bottleneck your whole computer as well. Ssd makes updates fast which is nice.

>>61267841
IMO:

Avoid Belkin, check some review websites on good routers, spend $100-$150. Also consider a good modem if that's the kind of internet you have.

>>61267779
>One large SSD is superior than one small SSD + one large HDD.

For operating system performance, yes. For gamers who want the best gaming performance e.g. best graphics or fps, no. Ssd's are still an optional luxury and can eat up a massive chunk of a budget. For a typical casual pc gamer a regular hdd will be fine.

I've actually never had an ssd before because I don't feel the need for one. That's not to say I don't think it will be a noticeable upgrade if I ever want to upgrade. There's nothing that I do on my pc which has made me feel the need to get an ssd since I built my pc 4 years ago.

>>61267864

>I've actually never had an ssd before because I don't feel the need for one.

That's great! This is a recommendation for people that do need one, which is everyone!!

how the hell do i activate windows? I cant find anywhere online to buy a product key

>>61267888
Install Gentoo

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>>61267854

Is a Linksys WRT AC1200 a good upgrade? I currently have pic related

>>61267924
i dont even know what that is

>>61267841
i have a ac1900 nighthawk. im pretty sure that's the number. i love it.

>>61267886
Cpu + gpu are the main priority when budgeting. I'm sure that it can be agreed that a 1600 + 1070 paired with a hdd is a better investment than a 1400 + 1060 paired with an ssd for a $1k budget.

It's just not worth downgrading your cpu + gpu that far simply for faster boot times and maybe slightly faster in game/application load times.

Does anyone here works with Altium Designer? Will a G4560 build be enough for it?

>>61267965
yes

>>61267996

Every single application will benefit from the SSD, also idk what you're smoking, but a 1600 + 1070 + HDD would cost significantly more than what I have featured for $1,000.

>>61267845
What fps? I haven't played a game that it can't handle on high settings over 60fps easily.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7j4MNN
Trying to keep this under $1500-1600. Any suggested storage situations? I need mass storage for photos and videos as well as something fast for priority programs. So some sort of SSD +HDD solution?
Is there anything else I could change? BIOS on the crosshair VI seems to be pretty good now and I'm a fan of the all those USB ports. Not too sure what I should get for my gpu; only thing I want is something that is capable of 1440/144hz.

>>61268110
$1,650
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9HxHgL

OCZ is owned by Toshiba now, any brand questioning about OCZ is now void.

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Ayy just downloaded some more ram today

>>61268147
looks like a quick machine, but what is that DIMM combination?

>>61268152
2x16, 2x4

>>61268132
Neck yourself.

>>61268132
Seems decent but I want to stick with the 1700 at least, I need that extra processing power and my old i5 isn't keeping with my needs. Same with the mobo, I'm in the market for a x370 board that has good over clocking and a good range of IO ports. Maybe the Taichi or Gigabyte K7 might be better. Any thoughts?

>>61268090
Consistently 60fps but I had to drop FoV down from max as I was dropping to 45-50

>>61268228
The Crosshair VI and the Taichi are about equal in terms of component and build quality, but I prefer Asus' UEFI implementation (by a large margin) and it has better connectivity. The K7 has a much weaker VRM setup.

>>61268272
Thanks for the heads up, guess I'll stick with ASUS for now. One more quick question, do y'all think that on board wifi is worth 10-15? I could use the extra flexibility but money saved is money earned

>>61267332
Adding onto this, what do you guys think of HGST drives?

>>61268360
Lowest failure rate brand.

Or consider Hitachi

>>61260822
Haha tots I agree with this post

>>61268355
How useful wifi is to you is something only you can answer really. I have no use for it at all, personally, since my machine is right next to my router.

Are AIO coolers a meme? I like the way they look in cases and it works well with high clearance memory. Trying to decide on what to cool my 1800x with.

>>61264593
To be fair, I don't trust my $20 radioshack trash multimeter to measure accurately enough for this kind of thing, and most people don't have flukes lying around.

Rebuilding my old server into a more slender case with more and better drives. Old Mobo is "capable" of raid, but I know to just get a dedicated card. I may have one in a drawer somewhere, but I'm not opposed to buying a new one. Any raid card recommendations? Mobo isn't up to PCIe 3.0.

>>61268497
High end air is better than most lower or mid-range AIOs and costs about the same. You need to step up to 240mm radiator models to leave something like the Noctua NH-D15 in the dust, at the expense of greater cost and added noise, especially at idle. Pump noise is why I can't stand AIOs, personally. Your hearing may vary.

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> mfw I dropped my screwdriver into my open case
Why is installing components so nerve-wracking

>>61268572
It's okay, could be worse, I managed to drop my new processor while installing and a part chipped off.

>>61268585
I placed my new motherboard on the ESD bag last year and it broke

>>61268378
The hgst ultrastar all seem to be refurbished and the deskstar only has a 32 cache. Most Hitachi seem to be refurbished.
What would the quietest hdd be?

My GTX 570 is getting me 53fps average for Skyrim SE with ENB. Have GPUs improved much over this to be worth an upgrade (once prices normalise)? I clearly don't buy often so was thinking a GTX1080 so I get best value over time.

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Im having a problem with my water block, Im trying to unscrew it but its the hole isnt properly attached to the motherboard itself. heres the pic of the back of it. Any way i can fix it?

>>61268664
the pic is blurry and sideways because im taking the pic on my laptop

>>61268688
Explaining why it's shit doesn't help anyone see what the fuck is going on. Post the model number if you can't take a pic.

I just installed my 1080 and apparently my ventilation is poor, because this thing idles at like 50 degrees, which would be okay except now my hard drive is the same temp, but its not as heat resistant. How do I change the fan settings of my gpu so it idles at like 30 or 40 instead, even if it's just temporarily?

>>61268611
Refurbished simply means used, not broken and fixed for resale.

>>61268711
Download MSI afterburner (or similar) and set custom fan curv

>>61268638
Cards are still a little expensive, 53fps is nothing to complain about for a $200+ upgrade

>>61268725
Yeah, I figured it out. But it's a good idea, right?

>>61268664
>>61268699
Motherboard: MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium Motherboard
CPU Waterblock: Thermaltake Pacific W4 RGB
Liquid Cooling: Thermaltake D5 Pump with Silencer Kit

>>61268562
I'm thinking of getting a 240 or 280mm rad, I don't see any point in single fan solutions.

So I put together my ryzen rig with this ram:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313712
But when I go to the bios or anything else that reads memory info (like Thaiphoon) everything points to it being a 4000MHz kit besides the packaging. Did I luck out or is it just an error? I haven't heard of anything else like it, but I haven't taken a look at the sticks themselves so maybe they got stuck in the wrong box by accident.

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>>61268896
Forgot pic

>>61268903
>>61268896
Where the fuck did you get your numbers from?

>>61267332
seconding this

I have an Asus P6T motherboard with 1x3GB ram and a i7 920, what would be the best way to upgrade this? I heard the x5650 is good but what about the RAM, does ECC work because it's a Xeon or will I have to pay more for regular DDR3 since ECC is much cheaper?

my friend is a reseller so I get cheap as fuck parts

I'm going to buy with a GTX 1060 3GB card

which cpu should I get

Ryzen 7 1700 $300 USD

i5 7600K $210 USD

i7 7700K $305 USD

Ryzen 5 1600 $210 USD

>>61268726
Yeah it's hard to waste money at this point but it's getting hot and louder over time

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>>61268990
UEFI, that's in an ASUS program for my motherboard. This is from thaiphoon.

>>61269052

R 5 1600

>>61269056
Go to windows. Turn on speecy. Post RAM.

Is there any downside to putting your OS on an old (like 5 years) SSD? (with a new SSD for apps/games/etc) Would there be any performance issues?

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>>61269082
Forgot speccy had this, it's the same either way though.

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Has anyone upgraded these old work computers here before? I love the aestetic of it and looked it up online would I be set it up like
https://youtu.be/GPJGVbdXgrs is this a good idea like $350~ max total on system with upgrades?

>>61260822
Why >no i5 unless discounted?
I mean, something like i5-7500 clearly superior to r5 1500x if we are talking no OC and primarly gaming, no heavy workload. Am I wrong? And i5 is actually cheaper (at least in my shithole).

>>61268725
Thank you! I was constantly annoyed at my 1060 idling at 50c despite my case being stupidly good with ventilation and airflow. Sitting at a nice cool 35c now at 52% fan

>>61269100
I've got a Lenovo m91p. I got it for 100 dollars, threw in a 1050ti, a few sticks of ram, and an SSD and it runs like a dream.

>>61269100
The shittiest aspect of these things are the non-standard motherboards.
But if you get one with a half-decent cpu just slap a comparable gpu and you're good to go.

>>61269114
Motherboards for jewtel is cheaper too.

>>61269096
It is running at 2132.

>>61269114
>i5-7500 clearly superior to r5 1500x
Is it now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjHYM7zDiE
The moment you put something CPU intensive in there the 1500x still manages to keep it's head high. Also look at the CPU usage.

>>61269142
It's running at 3200, I'm just saying that the XMP profile and everything else suggests it's not what it should be. I just checked, teamgroup doesn't even sell this kit past 3800 and everyone in the reviews on newegg say their profiles worked fine.

I saw Kinguin brought up a few times before for Windows keys. Is it reliable?

>>61269114
>i5-7500 clearly superior to r5 1500x
no it isnt

>>61269149
>cpu usage
Is a meme on AMD platform.

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>>61269246
>who needs more than a quad core
>100% cpu usage is completely normal
intelfags are permabtfo

What's the best B350 mobo if I'm indifferent between ATX and microATX? Only real requirement is three case fan headers as I'm too lazy to install a fan controller in my 5.25 bay.

Second question: Can most R5 1600s hold a 3.7 overclock on the stock cooler without boiling or being loud as fuck?

What are some common pitfalls when building an itx for the first time?
Thinking of building a new PC in about a month or so and since I forsee moving around a lot I want the smaller form factor.

>>61267794
Your definition of "fine" is pretty low compared to mine, then. I have a system with a 1070 and even that dips below 60fps in a lot of titles at 1440p. I have a 1080 Ti on my main system and there are a few titles where it struggles with 60fps at 1440p depending on the settings. I also have a 144hz monitor so I prefer higher fps if possible anyway.

>>61267888
Kinguin

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>>61268497
AIOs put almost no strain on the board whereas huge ass air coolers cause board flexing when you move the system around. Not a huge deal in most cases but if you intend to move the system around then it can be a problem. And of course, AIOs are easier to work with since the radiator is mounted to the case and you just have to deal with the tubes. Memory clearance is also not an issue.

OTOH, air coolers have no real failure rate except in the fans themselves. They don't have a pump that can fail or and they can't leak. They're also cheaper.

Performance-wise the top end AIOs will outperform air coolers but whether or not that is worth it is up to you. Fan selection can make a significant difference to performance and importantly also to noise. If you have an Intel CPU you may not see a difference at all depending on if you delidded and put liquid metal in there. If you did then you'll get a bigger delta with an top-end AIO vs even a Noctua DH15.

>>61268638
Yeah the 570 is pretty trash nowadays but the GPU market is completely supply starved at the moment and prices for set for miners. Don't buy anything new unless you somehow can get a deal.

>>61269052
R5 for gaming/streaming, R7 if you do encoding or other heavily multi-threaded tasks.

>>61269088
Do you have a model number for the SSD? In general, SSDs have improved considerably in the last few years in terms of performance...

>>61269100
Techdeals is one of my favorite channels. His advice is pretty solid, if you want decent gaming performance it can work but it's not a good base for lots of upgrades. Go custom if you have dreams of adding big cards, fast RAM, OC'ing the CPU, etc.

>>61269674
R7 also if you want to go above 100hz

>>61269637
>whereas huge ass air coolers cause board flexing when you move the system around.
idk man my Noctua NH-D15 is pretty fucking light and i can literally make the case fall on it's feet and it won't bulge

>>61269196
It's basically an auction house for keys so if you pick vendors with high reputation then it is reliable in my experience.

>>61269697
I have a NH-D15 and the thing is not light it weighs about 3 lbs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/253034549902?vectorid=229466&lgeo=1&item=253034549902&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fff3%253D2%2526toolid%253D10044%2526campid%253D5337704403%2526customid%253D%2526lgeo%253D1%2526vectorid%253D229466%2526item%253D253034549902%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1252062965250&vectorid=229466&lgeo=1&item=253034549902&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fff3%253D2%2526toolid%253D10044%2526campid%253D5337704403%2526customid%253D%2526lgeo%253D1%2526vectorid%253D229466%2526item%253D253034549902%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1252062965250&ul_noapp=true
Someone please take one for the team

>>61269789
Guaranteed scam, you probably won't get anything.

>>61269789
Only one sold, we will never know

>>61269789
Anything too good to believe, normally isn't real.

>>61260822
I've somehow managed to find a few decently priced rx580s. the 4gb one is 254 yuros and the 8gb is about 40 more. Is the extra space benificial for games?

Are there still kinks with ryzen builds? I really want to build a 1600 build since it'll cost me around 700$ for the parts I need and be a significant upgrade for me. Just nervous about getting a shitty Mobo mostly.

>>61270009
Memory OC/XMP is a bit of a lottery, even if your memory if verified like mine.

>>61270037
It doesn't kill the build though does it?

>>61270078
I doubt so although everyone posting recently with build problems is using Ryzen. But that might because everyone is using Ryzen

>>61270107
Yeah that's my biggest worry about making a ryzen build. Though I don't know if I'd be able to make an Intel build that is around the same price as the ryzen one

>>61270144
No you won't. Just get a Ryzen. RMA all the parts that don't work.

>>61270078
Of course not. You can still use memory at standard frequency.

With the depletion of mid range GPUs is it better to go for a low end card as a stand in, or save more for a high end card?

>>61270375
low end as a stand in.

For the around 100 euros price range, can I get a mobo with protection for long term usage, or all of them are equally delicate around that price?

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What does this mean?
It can run only 2gb of vram?

>>61270375
Mid range is dead, and mining killed it. Only way to escape it is to go higher end.

>>61270478
i'm not gonna answer because of the facebook meme

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>>61270539
Why tho?

>>61260822
>check for 480s on amazon/ebay
>prices over the roof
Chink miners did it again? Fuck.

>>61270560
It's not funny and is unsufferable

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>>61270580
Who said it's funny?
I'm using to show that i am confused and wondering about a probably obvious thing

>>61270577
it's so baad that several stores have de-listed AMD GPUs because chink miners have first-in-the-queue buy orders for them.

>>61270107
Wouldn't worry about it, the only actual bugs seem to be related to VMWare and some gcc compiler options. If you don't use either then you should be fine and RAM issues are easily addressed by using different sticks. Check the QVL for your boards and check on forums online if you really want to hit high frequencies reliably.

Keep in mind that RAM speed OCing is dependent on the CPU as well as the board.

>>61270625
Why don't they,
you know ...


... ban chink credit cards

>>61270634
>why don't resellers prevent people from buying the stuff they sell
i don't know anon

>>61270634
Why don't they,
you know ...


... stop making money

>>61269428
The obvious challenge of getting everything to fit together without it being a clusterfuck hotbox that suffocates your components. Check some build guides for the specific case you want to use online and you should be alright.

>>61270634
They did nothing illegal so they can't ban them

>>61270634
Buy orders aren't coming from individuals, they are coming from groups basically saying "we're willing to have first pick on your GPUs and we'll pay X amount of premium for that privilege"

>>61269373
3.7 base is going to hard on the stock cooler I reckon, though maybe it would work. I would say that is pushing it a bit though. You can certainly turbo that high though.

IMO the best B350 board is probably the MSI B350 Tomahawk or Asus Prime B350-Plus

>>61260822
im looking at 2 deals right now
1 - a 9590 and sabertooth for 100
2 - 2 980s for 350
I feel like both are pretty damn good deals, obviously I know the 9590 is ancient and a fucking nightmare to cool, but i figure that with a good used gpu (read 970 or similar) and some gaymer rgb crap i could probably flip that as a cheap build pretty quick. and the 980s arent the best for for that price they're hard to beat
any thoughts?

>>61270691

Never, EVER buy a 9590. What you do is buy one of the lower clocked 8 core chips (my choicei s either 9320e or 8370e - they might nit go quite as high as a 9590 but are considerably less leaky and thus easier to cool) as all batches made after the release of the 8370 clock the same in practical terms. The sabertooth is a good board to pump 200w through as well.

MSI B350 Tomahawk artic or Gigabyte GA-AB350?

Uses: Gaming and other tasks.

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>>61270736

Derp

*8320e

Please note this particular 8320e is being run on a board that DOES NOT support the 200w chips.

>>61270736
>>61270743
oh no i know the issues with power, the thing is its a package deal both of those for 100. i could maybe talk the guy into just the mobo though
worst case I can just sell the 9590 for around 100 and get a free motherboard, right?

>>61270778

Hmm well if you are just going to flip it then 100 for both is a great deal.

Can i get a pc that can do these tasks decently for 500$? if not what is the lowest i need?
-Photo editing
- beginner tier 3d modeling
-beginner tier beats making
-gaming (bf4, Gta5,etc)
-twitch streaming
-video editing (rarely)
-multitasking (watching porn and doing school stuff, watching porn and playing games, etc)

>>61270741
If you can't decide for yourself, it means you don't care about the I/O or headers each has, in which case they will both be identical for you. Just buy the cheaper one.

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>>61270943
>watching porn and playing games

>>61269052
That's not cheap at all. You probably get jewed by your "friend"

>>61270943
The cheapest you'll be able to do that is about $800-900. And you'll have to wait for GPU prices to normalize.
Here's an example build that could meet what you want.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CPRKm8

By normalize, that GPU price needs to come down by $100. fucking miners have ruined the market atm.

>>61271014
Technically he could do all this stuff on a g4560 fine, but yeah considering how heavy his needs are cheaping out on the build would be a terrible mistake to do

>>61270943
For doing all that (decently) you're going to be around 800-1000 assuming you need the GPU, Case, etc. Do you have a monitor?

>>61271062
Also you're going to end up with a shitty GPU because of the current supply situation with cryptocurrency mining. You'll probably have to get a 1050 Ti or just look for used GPU deals on ebay or locally near you.

Are there any notable differences between Z270 and X370? Besides the cpus supported, ofc.

>>61271007
When i lose i beat my dick a little so i don't rage

>>61271115
Certain Z270 boards support Intel's optane memory. If you have no plans to use that, neither one has anything over the other.

>>61271123
meh. better than raging at a 12 year old who thinks COD is the best thing ever

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Just waiting on my CPU and cooler. I didn't realize how easy the define mini c is to build in

>>61271277
Build? Looks like a good setup. May copy

I've stumbled upon lack of PSU variety in my area, what are considered good ones for a budget build? I'm getting R5 1600, 1050ti and 8 gb ddr4 3kgz ram.
Currently choosing between Seasonic S12II Bronze, SilverStone Strider Essential Gold and Corsair VS550 80+
There is no EVGA psus in the entire country btw, and no I can't order from eBay due to fucked up customs on electronics.

>>61271338
Anything Seasonic and Silverstone with an 80 Plus rating is good (i.e. all of them), Corsair are generally fine so long as you avoid the CX series.

If I were you I'd just get the Seasonic/Silverstone one with the highest wattage on whatever budget you can afford, the less you can stress a PSU the quieter it will be.

>>61271328
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
You might want to get faster memory but the memory I chose was perfect for my budget

>>61271353
Use the permalink. That link just takes us to our own build

>>61271277
Why reference design on your GPU?

>>61271368
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwWtTH
Fuck I wasn't paying attention to the link I posted

>>61271368
>Use the permalink. That link just takes us to our own build

>click link
>Hmm, this guy picked exactly the same components as I d-, oh...

>>61271386
It was 400

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I found an old Silverstone SST-ST85F.
It's an 850W PSU, fully modular, but it's missing couple of cables, one of which is the PCIe 8 pin I need for my RX 480.

Will I be able to use a dual molex to an 8 pin PCIe, or convert the 2 PCIe 6 pins to an 8 pin? (which is safer? I'd like to have the molex connectors free, since I only have one cable which gives me 2 connectors atm).

Can I use an 6 pin extension in order to connect the PSU to the adapter (dual 6 pin to 8 pin) or will I have to convert one end from female to male?

pic related, it's the PSU (duh).

>>61271277
Looks pretty clean desu.

>>61271349
Thanks. Thing is Corsair VS is considerably cheaper than the other two, so I added it into the equation to cut possible corners. Initially I was aiming at SilverStone with 500w. Pcpartpicker tells me my estimated wattage is 230w so I should be fine

>>61271398
But a define mini C is a small case with restricted airflow, getting reference and mixing it with a blower fan doesn't seem smart to me desu.

>>61271405
The PCIe standards are overbuilt, so in reality its not even a problem converting a single 6 pin to single 8 pin, ran a 980Ti and R9290 like that no problems. Two 6's to an 8 is a good option.

Personally wouldn't use molex for something like that, but it'd probably work just fine too.

>Can I use an 6 pin extension in order to connect the PSU to the adapter (dual 6 pin to 8 pin) or will I have to convert one end from female to male?

I don't really get what you're asking.

>>61271387
>that build
Not bad. Solid PC. I hate how flooded the market is with old PCs, makes selling an old build next to impossible, otherwise I'd build a new one.

>>61271436
The PSU has 2 6pin PCIe connectors, what cable do I need in order to use them?

Will I need to buy a 6pin extension, a male plug and make it a male-to-male 6pin PCIe cable in order to use it? (2 of them obviously, in order to use the dual 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, which will then lead to a sleeved extension and then to the GPU).

>>61271409
The define mini c has enough space in between the front panel and the fans to get an ample amount of air into the case. I'll get another fan to put in the front of the case to insure that it won't catch fire senpai

>>61264921
>Will formating everything fix it?
Reinstalling should fix it. Windows is just pretty stupid with its driver model.

>>61271405
Don't do this unless you want your stuff to break.

>>61271437
I have someone who wants to buy my old build otherwise I wouldn't want to buy a new one either

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>>61271460
>The PSU has 2 6pin PCIe connectors
Your RX480 is just a single 8pin? If so all you need is a 2x female 6pin to 1x male 8pin, not complicated, pic related, your GPU might have even came with one in the box.

Unless I'm not understanding the question.

>>61271472
This is my current build and in all honesty I don't really need to upgrade I just enjoy building computers. I kinda want one of those new glass-side cases and try my hand at making my computer look A E S T H E T I C. What would such a build even sell for?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KZw2D8

>>61271491
Sorry for putting it so shitty, I'm just tired and I can't put together a proper sentence.

These cables weren't included, and they wouldn't be of any use anyway.

I salvaged this PSU from an old prebuilt Core 2 Quad era PC, and it's missing all of its PCIe power cables.

I think it needs a male-to-male cable in order to make shit work, if you still don't get it, just look at the power connector of a GPU and the power connector that this PSU has (the 6 pin ones).

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>>61271515
See my junkie diagram, the male-to-male cable should be something like this, only difference being it would be a 6pin one.

https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-Sleeved-PCI-E-PP06B-PCIE55/dp/B00A45JA52/ref=pd_cp_pc_0

>>61271515
>I think it needs a male-to-male cable in order to make shit work, if you still don't get it, just look at the power connector of a GPU and the power connector that this PSU has (the 6 pin ones).
I see, I thought you meant the others were missing and that's all it had.

'Male-to-male' cables are just PSU cables, to my knowledge they're all the same, just pulled out my Silverstone modular PCIe cables and they are exactly the same fitting as my EVGA one, it is just wires leading to a fitting after all.

Just buy some PSU cables and you're good to go.

>>61269267
You're not funny.

>>61271580
Found this one, it should do the trick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIe-8pin-2x-6-2pin-PCI-e-8-pin-Male-to-Dual-8Pin-6-2pin-Female-Power-Y-cable-/161266381294?hash=item258c39b1ee:g:CjgAAOxyBvZTP6Un

Does it matter if it's chinkshit?

Thanks anon.

hello /pcbg/, i have a question, this is my build https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/dPLHTH

is there a better monitor for this build? i mean, will there be compatibility issues with cpu/gpu and 144hz?

other than that, what should i change?

Are either of these suggested builds they have on the website any good?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/yDFfrH/great-amd-gaming-build

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/hsgXsY/excellent-gaming-build

I'd like to build one myself, but don't really know enought to pick the relevant parts individually.

Also both of those builds are recommending the GTX 1080 at the cost of £479. Is this particularly expensive in light of miners buying up graphics cards? I don't know what the usual going rate for one is, and it is worthwhile holding off for a few months if they are overpriced at the moment?

>>61271690
The S340 and P400 are just a few more dollars more and are better cases then the one you selected.
You don't need thermal paste unless you have no more in stock cause the H7 comes with paste pre-applied.
On that note, you might want to not pick the H7 cause CRYORIG coolers don't ship with AM4 brackets at the moment so you need to order that separately and apparently they aren't very stable.
Make sure your RAM is on the QVL.
Aside from that everything is good.

>>61271717
The i5 one is outdated. The first link is fine although the case could be better.

>>61271717
Yes. Both are decent build.
As to the GPU, that's actually standard currently. Due to miners, mid-range cards don't exist. Your choices are pretty much RX550, RX560, GT1030, GTX1050,, GTX 1050Ti, GTX 1080, or GTX 1080Ti.
anything beyond them has been obliterated by miners.

>>61271717
the amd one is much better and still cheaper.

>>61271740
I did consider the S340, not sure about the airflow though, planning on mounting two big fans in the front and one in the back

>>61271770
airflow on the S340 is plenty

Need a dirt cheap used card to replace my 7870 which just died (for the 5th time, not going to bother baking it again). When it comes to the 40nm Fermi/TeraScale stuff, should I go for AMD or Nvidia? I understand GPUs this old are deprecated but I figure one of (or both) manufacturers might have left the cards with a poor final state of drivers.

In terms of actual deals I'm looking at a 6950 for (AUD) $40 and a 560 Ti for $50. Which one should I grab?

>>61271780
I have the S340 Elite, can confirm, my RX 480 cheese grater edition sits at 60C (Δ=30 over ambient).

>>61271816
60 degrees at idle?
30 degrees more than ambient
How is that good?

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>>61271834
>>61271834
>>61271834

>>61271832
I mean my 1060 sat at the same until I went in and said to run fans at 50% at all times while idle so that may be his case. Once I did that dropped down to 30c idle. My case is a Define R4 so it's not really known for its airflow.

>>61271832
Full load, sorry for not clarifying, thought it would go without saying.

At idle it sits at 3-4C over ambient.

I have all 4 fans installed, 2 for intake and the other 2 are exhausting.

>>61271869
Also the GPU fans are at 55-60% (custom fan curve, theses percentages are for full load).

>>61271869
You should just ramp down the fans and let that shit sit at 80C, would be way quieter.

>>61271879
Maybe I should also fry an egg on it?

>>61271740
I checked the RAM compatibility on the mobo specs and it says 3200 (OC), so the sticks in my list should work fine once i bump up the clock speed from the BIOS right?

>>61271894
80C is nothing, Google it, anything under 90C for a modern GPU is safe as houses.

I don't think current gen AMD and Nvidia cards even start throttling until like 110C. I can't remember what I managed to get my 980Ti upto but it was over 100C before it started throttling big time.

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>>61272017
>I just want it to be cool
The heat dissipated into your room is the same at a given load regardless of whether your temps are 50C or 90C dude.

Maybe you should have paid more attention in thermodynamics class.

>>61271999
Thought for a moment you were an nvidia shill.
I just want it to be cool, don't mind the noise since I'm using headphones (but it's reasonably quiet anyway).

disclaimer: not an amd shill either, i just bought the card brand new for 100 yuropoor money.

>>61272034
Jesus fuck, I just don't want it to be sitting at 80C while it can sit at 60C for a bit more noise.

>>61272054
NO

LET IT GET HOTTER

NOW

>>61268087
You're joking right? There is a build a few posts up with that exact specs for $1058 including operating system

>>61267748
>>61268087

>>61269373
3.7 is fine on the stock cooler. I've had mine at 3.8 and it works, starting to push it under load though.

>>61271514
You could easily get 800-1000 for that. I have an old 6300+rx470 build that I'm going to sell to a friend for 300. I could easily get more for it but I grew up with this guy so I think a discount is in order

>>61271514
Have 1060s really gotten that expensive?

>>61273111
Really? I'm assuming that's in Murican money so about 1000AUD. I was considering selling it to my brother but he's unreliable as fuck and I know it'll come back to bite me in the ass. Thanks for the quick quote anon <3
>>61273128
That's in AUD so keep that in mind but yea, GPU prices are fucking bonkers. Mining isn't as big here as it is other places but still bad. I'm probably just gonna run with this build for another year or two and go from there. Worst comes to worst my son should be old enough by that time that this build should keep him sorted for school stuff and some light gaming