/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Is this the Arch vs Debian thread?

NEVER REPLY TO ME ON MY WIFE'S SON'S GIRLFRIEND'S CELLPHONE EVER AGAIN!!!

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Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>61260114
Literally a shit version of gentoo.

re-posting my cry for help from the old thread:

So I've got a bad journal on one ext4 encrypted disk. I want to dd the data to another disk to recover it. It's capable of unlocking, but not mounting. Should I run sudo dd if=/dev/mapper/luks-eac7b048-2581-4d92-a7c9-8803c2542bdc of=/dev/sdc conv=noerror,sync ? minus the question mark, or write the disk unencrypted?

I think the next step for recovering whines about it or something, idk

>>61260226
or write the disk encrypted* fuck me running.

I want my 170gb of pewdiepie videos back

>>61259660
Sound the trumpets and the gongs, it worked! Grub doesn't detect the windows 10 hdd I never used which I literally don't care about.

Let's see if it dies again soon, if it does, I'll replace the mobo and/or disk. Hopefully this doesn't happen again though.

>>61260224
smgl package manager is pure bash
the base system is smaller and packages are compiled directly from the upstream
fuck your python katamari

Had a working vga passthrough system. Until a few seconds ago, no problem whatsoever. Worked for about half a year perfectly.
About 10 minutes ago I started the VM as usual. I then went to the host's screen and did a bunch of stuff. Then went back to the guest screen: no output. Tried disabling vga passthrough: still no output. Tried reinstalling qemu: no effect.
What can I do at this point? A system restart didn't help.

>>61260294
Sorry, I don't speak retardese.

>>61260468
Install windows

>>61260478
>I'm too dumb to comprehend what he wrote
>I'll just call him a retard
>works every tiem :D

>>61260563
Your chromosome test result came back.
Above average.

>>61260608
ebin

>>61260548
It is installed.
In the VM that is.

>>61260226
>>61260246
using ddrescue instead because lol@crawling through bad sectors 512bytes/3 seconds

>>61260468
could it be nvidia breaking compatibility with vms? try to run it on a different gpu

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>>61260478
Stick around. You'll pick it up.

>>61260712
As I mentioned, I tried disabling vga passthrough and that didn't appear to help, suggesting that's not it. Beside, I haven't updated my GPU in the past hour.

Should I choose arch, debian, fedora or gentoo?

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>>61260294
>python katamari

Jesus the burn

>>61260478
smgl = [s]ource [m]age [g]nu/[l]inux

>>61260019
You know what? I would actually love to install sourcemage, the only problem is that there's no installer nor livecd

>>61260770
Solus, Sourcemage, Manjaro, Antergos, debian9, fedora25 are my recommendations

>>61260294
>is pure trash
FTFY

Holy shit, someone made a video review of Aloonix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgWzTHDwbo

>>61260805
nice retort :)

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>>61260808
>Aloonix
pretty depressing distro

>>61260830
thanks :-D

Now that the dust has settled and it's clear lunix, homOSeX and wangblows are all trash, which OS should we move to? BSDs are not viable since they don't support even decade-old hardware, let alone modern one. Haiku is underdeveloped. Is a solaris still being worked on?

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>>61260830
>>61260858

>>61260896
outdated, need emoji version

Is AMDGPU or AMDGPU-PRO better?

>>61260884
ReactOS, obviously.

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>>61260896
:^)

>>61260808

it's horrible.

>doesn't realize that those files are just the website resources for the Wikipedia pages on suicide
>thinks 4chan is something bad and obscure and not the most popular english speaking imageboard
>mentions creepypasta for no reason

>>61260962
beignet

>>61260808

>a calculator
>it's a calendar

In transmission it says the port is closed. Does that mean that if i don't allow it in my firewall, i will be able to enjoy all of the delicious downloading benefits with the only, not even downside, but a simple wasteful side effect of not uploading any data back? seems like a pretty sweet deal, why would anyone open that port?

>>61260997
A calendar calculates the time, which makes it a calculator.

>>61260808
>fat neckbeard manchild with 0 subscribers wants to make it big by reviewing shit on the internet like thousands before him
it's the same every time

>>61260808
Is he an idiot? He complains about not being able to do root shit and write and shit when the distro is clearly meant as a joke and he tries to actually legit review it
Plus he also uses words like creepypasta when he clearly doesn't know what they mean

>>61260986
>the deep web

>>61260987
I don't know what that is

Daily reminder to keep your iptables nice and tidy. You don't want to open your ports to all random clients like a some cheap slut

>>61260975
Meh, redoxos is where it's at.

>>61261529
When is that new firewall with a PF-style syntax going to be usable?

>>61261529
>iptables
deprecated

how can I tell if amdgpu is working? I installed the package but Idk if I did it right

>>61261888
check /var/log/Xorg.0.log

>>61261918
Where should I be looking in that file

>>61261951
dude.

>>61261966
weed lmao?

>>61261966
seriously tho I need help pls

What's the best cli password manager?

>>61260468
I figured it out. Turns out the dp cable that connected the GPU and monitor just magically stopped working without any warning. I manually switch the source between system and GPU now. Memetic, but works.

What's the best resource for learning servers? I literally have no idea why Linux servers are so popular and what makes them special.

Is it possible to get image preview without needing a file manager like ranger?

>>61262554
GNU/Linux*

>>61262554
GNU*

>>61262568
tl;dr yes

i3m() {
  [[ "${#}" -eq 0 ]] && return 1

  file="${1}"
  fontsize=12

  columns="$(tput cols)"
  lines="$(tput lines)"

  width_max="$((fontsize * columns))"
  height_max="$((fontsize * lines))"

  w3mimgdisplay='/usr/lib/w3m/w3mimgdisplay'

  width="$(printf '5;%s' "${file}" | "${w3mimgdisplay}" | cut -d ' ' -f 1)"
  height="$(printf '5;%s' "${file}" | "${w3mimgdisplay}" | cut -d ' ' -f 2)"

  if [[ "${width}" -gt "${width_max}" ]]; then
    height="$((height * width_max / width))"
    width="${width_max}"
  fi

  if [[ "${height}" -gt "${height_max}" ]]; then
    width="$((width * height_max / height))"
    height="${height_max}"
  fi

  tput smcup
  tput civis
  tput clear

  while printf '0;1;0;0;%s;%s;;;;;%s\n4;\n3;' \
    "${width}" "${height}" "${file}" \
      | $w3mimgdisplay; do
        read -n 1 -t 1 && {
          tput clear
          tput rmcup
          tput cvvis
          return 0
        }
  done
}

>>61262697
And this will work with any terminal? Because ranger with image preview only works for a few and out of those only 1 works without issues.

>>61262752
Ranger uses the same backend (w3m's w3mimgdisplay), so if ranger works, this function works too.

>>61262697
>it even refreshes the image after I change workspaces
neat
how do I make my cursor not blink after I exit?
also, is it possible to decrease the refresh time?

>>61262797
>how do I make my cursor not blink after I exit?
Remove both, tput cvvis and tput civis (used to hide and unhide the cursor)
>also, is it possible to decrease the refresh time?
Change the -t option of "read".

>>61262697
That is a bash script, correct?

>>61262868
>Remove both, tput cvvis and tput civis
but I need the cursor hidden while the image is displayed
apparently using cnorm instead of civis will give me a non blinking cursor

>>61262953
>using cnorm instead of civis
meant to say cvvis

>>61262797
Sidenote: The refreshing is just a side effect.
Maybe should keep the loop time like it is because I used it so you can "quit" the viewer by pressing any key, but have fun hacking around.

>>61262932
A bash function for your ~/.bashrc, yeah, but You could aswell just add
#!/usr/bin/env bash to the top and remove i3m() { } for a script file.

>>61262971
thanks anon

Hey guys.
I'm in desperate need of a distro to put on my new computer, and I'm really frustrated.
I've extensively used ubuntu mate (liked but mate fucks up every once in a while), linux mint (don't like), manjaro (broke a bunch of times), arch (same), elementary os (meh) and briefly tried fedora and opensuse.
It is a powerful pc so it doesn't need to be lightweight, but it needs to be stable as fuck and ergonomic, basically a workstation.
I'll be doing a lot of programming and in-browser work, and as for gaming it's going to be little to none.
So far I'm leaning towards fedora, opensuse and ubuntu because of how stable and easy to use they are (I don't need extra steps getting in the way, which is why I ditched arch). I LOVE the aur but I don't really need it in the end.
As for DE kde, gnome, xfce are fine, my favorite is mate but it broke a bunch of times so not sure any more.
What do you guys suggest?

>>61262971
>can only return from function or sourced script
should I use exit instead?

>>61263051
Oh, yes, you need exit instead of return.

>>61262697
Forgot the most important part!

# GPLv3+

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>>61263131
awww

>>61263041
stop distro hopping
stick to a distro; any
lern to use it (which also means, learn the cli)
problem? don't switch; fix it
after a while you will realize all distros are the same

>>61262697
>printf '0;1;0;0;%s;%s;;;;;%s\n4;\n3;' "${width}" "${height}" "${file}" | $w3mimgdisplay
where do you find this stuff?
I've looked at man w3m and /usr/share/doc/w3m and haven't found any documentation that explains the input that w3mimgdisplay takes

Sometimes in Ubuntu when I click with middle mouse button it adds 1~ 0~ to the text. What the fuck is that and how to stop it?

>>61263171
I want to stop distro hopping. I know how to use them and I know how to use the command line. The thing you don't understand is that although I've fixed a 1000 problems on every distro, the thing is that I don't want to waste my time fixing stuff that should not have broken, and just use something stable and useful.
All distros are not the same, although they can be made almost the same. I just want something to install once and never have it break, freeze and need troubleshooting 2-3 times a fucking week.

>>61263227
>the thing is that I don't want to waste my time fixing stuff that should not have broken, and just use something stable and useful.
Then you are using the wrong OS. Windows is for things like that. GNU/Linux is intended for hobbists only who have no issue with investing lots of time into fixing it

>>61263227
for example, I had both manjaro and ubuntu mate installed. I used manjaro exclusively for a very long time, then one day logged in ubuntu, ran an update, and manjaro stopped booting because it has it's own fucking version of grub. Why would I want to deal with this shit if there's some flavor (maybe ubuntu or fedora or opensuse) that doesn't do this retarded shit?

>>61263253
You are wrong. Maybe it used to be that way when you needed to write your own drivers and shit but now that is not the case. A lot of working people use Linux now. It's not a special club any more. Don't feel like a snowflake because you installed something and then followed instructions on the internet when you broke it.

>>61263188
How the w3mimg protocol works is hidden in the source code of w3mimgdisplay.c.
I stole the idea from "z3bra". Here you go:
http://blog.z3bra.org/2014/01/images-in-terminal.html

>>61263305
thanks

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Whenever I try to play a Flash video I get this error message. How do I install "libpepflashplayer.so"? OS is stable Debian.

>>61263295

>stopped booting because it has it's own fucking version of grub.
Because your'e a retard who has two same operating systems installed on one computer.

>look up why Slackware isn't featured on FSF's site
>there's an unofficial site dedicated to "freeing" Slack
>it has the Gnu smoking a pipe instead of Tux
Is it wrong that the Gnu smoking the pipe pisses me off? I know they want to "liberate" Slackware but for God's sake leave the mascot alone.

>>61263360
The point is really not why I have 2 linux based distros installed. Also, that was just a simple example. This is a friendly thread and you're an asshole. Bring something constructive or gtfo.

I installed debian on a off line machine, in the live enviroment bcmwl-kernel-source worked to get wifi, once in stalled though, when i try I get missing dependencies, I cant figure out how to install the wifi driver because of this

>>61263427

Yes, that's the point. No sane person (non-pretentious, person who actually uses it) has two distributions installed.
The same would happen with Windows after an update when it overwrites your bootloader. I don't see you complaining about Windows, you hypocrite idiot.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61263467
I am not in a Windows thread. I don;t even have windows any more. The reason I had both was very simple; I had used Ubuntu Mate for a long time. I had tried Arch, Manjaro, opensuse and Fedora in either VMs or my shitty spare laptop. Manjaro seemed like it worked perfectly for my needs, but I can't know if I only use it once a week for browsing the web on a laptop, can I? So I installed it side to side with Ubuntu (which had all the software I needed installed, like Altera Quartus which is a bitch to get working properly) so that I could use it, but still have my working Ubuntu to fall back on since I actually had work to do. Manjaro ended up working pretty good in the beginning so I kept it, and in the period when I was considering formatting the Ubuntu partition, I saw 2-3 things break (but still took time to fix them since I really liked manjaro and was still about to keep it). Then I booted Ubuntu for some reason that I don't remember, I think I needed to run something I only had in there? and manjaro grub broke. I fixed it, and then a bunch of random things started breaking also. That is why I'm ditching manjaro. I don't know why I'm explaining needing to have a fallback ready to go environment to a person on 4chan, all I asked for is a recommendation.

Is there a way to set a minimum time to register a double click?
The mouse is stupid and registers a single click sometimes as a double click sometimes, and I figure a minimum time as a treshold would work against it.

>>61263662
Dont have shit hardware

neofetch (bash script) can display a logo pic as well using w3m-img as a backend.
Also has functions for finding the w3m_image_path, size of terminal, x y and size ..more.
I guess you could glean whatever bits you wanted from that.
>Or just neofetch -L --w3m yourpic.jpg #kek

>>61263832
or just w3m pic.png

>>61263477
sudo pacman -Syuu is pretty great

>>61263943

Why do you add 2 Us?

>>61263907
firefox pic.png

>>61263959
oh woops mistyped. it should be -Syyu

>>61263992
No yy is useless.

>>61263992

Why do you add 2 Ys?

>>61263959
not him but I think it's Update and Upgrade (update packages, upgrade system)

>>61264071

No, that's not it. Do pacman -Sh and actually check what the options do.
That's why I was asking, because something is telling me he doesn't really know what this >>61263992 does either.

>>61263992
Don't run this. It will break you system.

>>61264096
Don't have arch any more on this machine. I feel stupid for never checking though.

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>>61264163

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>>61264163
>>61264314

>>61263477
fortune | cowsay

Best stable justwerks distro?

>>61264540

tr -dc a-zA-Z0-9</dev/urandom|head -c$[RANDOM%1337]|cowsay -s

>>61264569
Devuan

>>61264569
Gentoo. Seriously.

printf "Guys.\nGuys.\n\e[32m>How do I greencowsay\e[0m"| cowsay -n

>>61264587
considered it but it's not really justwerks. I downloaded the version 9 isos but have them seeding and never really installed.

>>61264592
I believe you but never tried it. For every day stuff I'd imagine it needs to much configuring though, I think you have to compile everything from scratch or something right?

Leaning towards OpenSuSE Leap right now.

>>61264569
Ubuntu or Ubuntu+gnome

>>61264540
>>61264587
>>61264628
Based cowsay.

watch -t -n 1 'toilet -f slant "$(date +%T)" | cowsay -n'

>>61264687
Ubotnet*

>>61264687
Currently trying Ubuntu gnome on my spare laptop (it's shitty so it's slow af) and I like it. Currently leaning towards OpenSuSE Leap, why would you pick Ubuntu over that? (genuinely asking for your opinion)

>>61264690

echo 'Which way up?' | flip (from some threads ago) | cowsay | tac | sed 's,/,+,g;s,\\,/,g;s,+,\\,g;s,_,-,g;s,\^,v,g'

>>61264777
The evolution of a thread I started with
cowsay "Meanwhile, in Australia" | tac
and some Anon posted it back plus function related.

flip () 
{ 
    sed '
        y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/ɐqɔpǝɟƃɥıɾʞlɯuodbɹsʇnʌʍxʎz/
        y/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/ɐqɔpǝɟƃHIɾʞlWNOdbɹSʇnΛMXʎZ/
    ' <<< "${@:-$(</dev/stdin)}" | rev
}

>>61263320
Just use youtube-dl for crunchyroll

>>61264704
ubunut*

>>61264904
yep, exactly that flip thing
>>61263320
>there are still websites that use flash
why is this allowed

>>61264646
It doesn't. You set the profile, and from time to time you add options to make.conf or to package.use/package.accept_keyword if you want special features. You do that at much the same frequency that in other distros you would instead bang your head on the table because vim is available with lua, with ruby, with python2, but only one of them, not all. Which is really not that often.

Compilation is handled by the package manager and is transparent to the user aside from the time it takes to compile (for small packages, there is virtually no impact, for large packages you're better off using the binary version, such as firefox-bin instead of firefox, since it takes so long).

Every other distro I have found was extremely unstable and often missing a critical package (rectifiable only by compiling from source manually - doable but a hell of a pain in the ass compared to having the package manager handle it for you).

>>61264940
Because html5 <video> is a massive meme and is absolute dogcrap. Also interactive content.

>>61264991
and a hella insecure and proprietary

>>61264984
Will absolutely check it out. Thanks.

Should I use Ubuntu MATE or Linux Mint?

>>61265385
Ubuntu MATE. Mint has a piss poor security track record.

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Can someone explain to me the logic behind postfix notation?

>KeepassX is 19,538 lines of code
>kpcli that is a command line program that opens the exact same database file keepasssx can is only 4,102 lines of code
>There are anons on /g/ who unironically use a bloated password manager.

>>61265462
>Frogposter
No, I don't want to.

>>61265508
It's my only pepe meme

[spoiler]the rest are sonic oc's[/spoiler]

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>>61265462
a+b
is the same as
ab+

It made sense in the mind of Łukasiewicz because he didn't like having to deal with parentheses (postfix and prefix notation eliminates the need to use parentheses).

It makes sense in computing because computers do stack based calculation and postfix is roughly "how a computer thinks".
You put a on the stack
you put b on the stack
you remove a and b from the stack, add them together and put the result back on the stack.

Thus ab+

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I'm moving back to my home country soon, and i'll be able to buy computer parts at a reasonable price again.
Should i look into AMD or Intel?

>>61263427
This, using two distros isnt bad

>>61265530
What's the logical differences between prefix and postfix? It's more complicated than moving the signs to the right than the left, is it?

>>61266085
>It's more complicated than moving the signs to the right than the left, is it?
It's not, they're the same thing, the operators are just mirrored.

Łukasiewicz came up with prefix because it's what you would use on paper or on a board. You put numbers to the right of the starting point and operators to the left.
Computing uses reverse-polish (postfix) because you "feed" data serially, so first goes one number, then goes second, then goes operator which is it's own instruction that tells the computer what to do with what it has already on the staack.

>>61263477
https://gist.github.com/heptal/6052573

Is there any website that I can input my steam id and it tells me the wine rating for each of my games?

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>>61266144
Imagine being so fucking lazy

>>61260808
>su
>switch user

>>61266197
fuck you buddy

when i'm done with finals i'm going to make that shit myself, post it on libbit and have a millions upboats

>>61266222
I wish you good luck friend.

>>61266244
thanks anon

>>61266144
>using steam

idk what's wrong with people
>can't talk to friends without facebook
>can't listen to music without spotify
>can't use a phone without whatsapp
>can't play games without steam

what happened

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>>61266619

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>>61266619

>>61265977
AMD.

>>61266768
>>61266774

Didn't know you had to be so edgy to use linux

>>61266876
s/edgy/woke/

>>61260019
Is there an aesthetic plymouth theme for CentOS? The default one is a boring black screen with a few barely visible lines drawing a 7, with a spin in the center.

>>61266876
GNU/Linux*

>>61266921
>aesthetic
- remove quiet and any dm shit
- startx

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>considers himself a """power user"""
>uses a file manger

>>61267161
>take 2 clicks and 1 second to manage files
OR
>take 15 seconds and 50 key presses to manage files

NOT EVEN ONCE

>>61267209
>what is autocompletion

>>61267215
>pressing tab then 3 leters 50 times

>>61267223
>>61267209
One day anon. We all have been there.

>>61267077
>>61266876
GNU*

>>61267209
You can cherry pick examples that would be faster with a gooey (finding and uploading an anime reaction picture) and ones that would be faster in a shell (renaming all the files in a directory).

>>61267304
stupid gnu poster

>>61267340
He's right, you know.

>>61267324
>in gui
Cntrl+a>right click>rename>rename gui comes up>follow regex or wildcard instructions.

Your point?

>>61267352
Congrats on proving the extend of your retardation.

>>61267387
Proving a file manager is superior to neckbeards typing in 100 folder long commands?
You're damn right

Someone make a Japanese text reading plugin for qutebrowser like rikaichan for firefox.

>>61267406
do it yourself, faggot

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What's the best light weight image viewer with a cropping tool? Right now I'm using gThumb, but it's a little heavy for my taste.

>>61267449
Image viewers are made for viewing images.
Cropping is out of scope, e.g. bloat.

>>61267404
> Proving
> superior
> 100 folder long
> commands
> damn right
Them blinkers be on HARD.

is there any reason to switch from mint to something else? i tried a bunch of distros and got the impression that distros are 99% the same - maybe you disagree.

>>61267686
Mint is literal shit.
ANY distro is better then it

linux sucks
>on windows
>do nothing, 0% cpu usage
>on linux
>do nothing, 3-5 xorg usage
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61268032
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of GNU/Linux are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have referred to the GNU/Linux system as "Linux", but Linux is just a part of the system! Whoops! Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. You should always remember to say or write "GNU/Linux", unless you are referring to the kernel "Linux" alone!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to your new operating system!

>>61268049
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>61267686
Mint is the memest meme distro ever.
People install it because its #1 distro on distrowatch, without knowing that Mint gained that popularity by actually getting cracked by some script kids (search the web for " backdoored linux mind isos" ).

"linux blogs" fall for it and repost how cool it is, but the only cool thing, newfriends may enjoy, is cinnamon, which is a DE, which works on any distro.

More about Linux Mint being shit here:

https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4v116g/can_we_stop_recommending_linux_mint/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/canonical-dev-dont-use-linux-mint-online-banking-unsecure

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

>>61268049
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

>>61268101
>>61268084
>>>/r/linuxmasterrace

>>61268049
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this: be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.

>>61268084
>>61268101
Joke's on you, I'm not really Richard Stallman.

>>61268111
>>61268101
>>61268084
>Linus has spoken. Accept his authority.
Linus Torvalds is a retard if he thinks we should refer to an entire OS by the name of an exchangeable kernel. The truth is that Linus NEEDS it to be called Linux. When the Tech CEOs of Apple and Google and IBM, and others hear about "Linux", they assume they are talking about the OS and not just the kernel. They then dump billions into developing "Linux" with the intent of improving the OS, but in actuality much of that money goes to over-developing the kernel (and thus the Linux Foundation gets a big chunk of that money under false pretenses). Basically, Linus wants everyone to call the GNU POSIX operating systems "Linux" so that his rent gets paid. He'd call your Android and Router and your parent's smartTV "Linux" too if he could get away with it. Linus Torvalds is a piece of shit.

>>61268141
>not sure if pasta or actual hurt

>>61268032
>Complains about X
>>61268049
>hurr durr it GNU
And here I thought stories of rms taking credit for other peoples work weren't true!

Convince me NOT to use Elementary OS.

I don't know a lot about (GNU/)Linux, but it's eOS is pretty and because it's based on Ubuntu it should just werk, right?

>>61268141
What would be the pont of giving money to the GNU project? They don't those companies you listed at all.

>>61268163
GNU/Linux*
GNU is the OS, Linux the kernel (like Android is the OS and Linux, like always, is just the kernel).

>>61268190
>what is Alpine Linux

>>61260019
10/10 made me install source mage

>>61260224
WRONG

>>61268204
Alpine provides a collection of programs replacing the GNU OS. Since it's a collection of many different projects, it's not easy to find a name for it, but 'Linux' isn't the correct name either, since the Alpine system is more than just Linux, the kernel.

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>>61268232
I like this guy.

Been testing Devuan for a while now, and hey, it's pretty comfy. Install Devuan. I really hope it becomes as popular as Debian itself.

>>61268277
thanks for shilling
I'm using devuan myself

>>61268207
the real pleasure comes when you read all the prettified shell scripts
I'm wondering what tools the source mage guys use to prettify bash scripts

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>dwm been just fucking fine on 6.0 for almost 4 years
>hurr durr it's 6.1 time
>everything's fucking broken
why

>>61268154
>calls it windows
>calls it mac, mac os, mac os x, or just os x
>doesn't call it gnu
hypocrite

>>61268095
Thanks for the links anon :)

>>61263320
I just use pepper flash. But I'm using Chromium and Arch. Not sure but I think there is probably a pepper-flash package for Debian and it will work with Firefox.

>>61263320
Follow these instructions.

http://docs.slackware.com/slackware:flashplugin

What ffmpeg option should i use to create usable yet small enough to fit the file restrictions?

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>>61263477

set -o vi

Enables vim-style command line editing.
Press escape to enter the editing mode, you can even type "/" to search command history with "n" and "N" to cycle through.

Also:

bind 'set show-mode-in-prompt on'

To add an indicator to display which mode you're currently in

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>>61268658
what the flying fuck

>>61268658
Eh, I'm so used to emacs readline shit. I just do ^x^e if I need to do serious editing.

I'm going to partition my hard drive so I can install xubuntu. Can I drag and drop files from Windows to the new OS or do I have to move it to a separate harddrive first.

>>61268658
What do I need to put into my PS1 for that?

>>61268817
You can't drag and drop to a partition you haven't even created yet silly

>>61268878
file you're looking for is .inputrc

here's mine

set editing-mode vi
set show-mode-in-prompt on

$if mode=vi
set keymap vi-command
Control-l: clear-screen
set keymap vi-insert
Control-l: clear-screen
$endif

It turns the vi mode, turns on the prompt
and the remaining just adds the usual Control+L keybind to clear the screen.

>>61268658
This is cool and all, but I find this way more convenient.

"\e[B":history-search-forward
"\e[A":history-search-backward

This way I can start to type something and complete it by history rather than delete it and make it into a search.

>>61268886
Assuming I did though. If I had both OS' on my hard drive, can I move files between each of them?

I *need* to use MS Visual Studio to program in C# using Entity Framework for two courses (a year) in uni.

I don't want to dual boot.

Am I better off with VirtualBox or VM Ware for the task?

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>>61268878
Nothing. But I think the indicator only works if you have bash version 4.4. Lower versions should still function just fine in vi mode but the indicator won't show up.

Also, just so you don't waste your time trying to update bash be aware that the real indicator actually doesn't look as cool as in that GIF.
That animated GIF came from someone who made a patched version of it to allow him to change the position and color of the indicator by adding "\m" to his PS1.

But this is what it really looks like in bash 4.4 or higher.
Just plain white and always at the start. It's still nifty though.

>>61268951
>Lower versions should still function just fine in vi mode but the indicator won't show up.
It will show up though it's not customisable and will be either : for normal and + for insert.

t. bash 4.3

>>61268927
Your GNU/Linux install can read and write to Windows filesystems, but Windows can't read or write to GNU/Linux filesystems.

So you'd have to dual boot first, then start up the machine in your GNU/Linux installation. Then copy the files over from your windows install.
Then you can delete Windows if you want and have GNU/Linux take up the whole disk, or keep the dual boot.

>>61268993
It's only a matter of time till windows comes with EXT2/3/4 and other non NTFS abilities.

>>61269491
They should really just make a Windows GNU/Linux distro and just call it Windows 11 or something porting over their GUI's and shit.
They could still sell it and 90% of their audience wouldn't even know the difference but would enjoy much improved stability and security.

Hell I'd probably even buy it for my gaming machine since it would be nice to have something mainstream again, if they'd just cut it out with that tracking crap (but of course they wouldn't).

>>61268901
>>61268951
Oh fuck yes, I just realized you can actually change the strings used for (ins) and (cmd) including setting colors with

set vi-ins-mode-string
set vi-cmd-mode-string

How dangerous is it to have clear text passwords to mount smb shares in my autofs config? Is there anything I can actually do or is it the only way?

>>61268658

>used to the emacs style key-commands in bash/readline
>use vim as text editor
>try this for bash/readline
>feels awkward

I'm jut all over the place and I can't decide to which side to swing.

>>61268277

>comfy
Kill yourself.

Most of the shit i do on my pc is via ssh tunel to my server, but every time i reboot my computer i have to manually fire up putty to open the tunnel, can this be done automatically at boot time?

>>61270183
I'm scared to even think what level of tryhard you must live on

>>61270197
Install Source Mage

>>61270208

Software can't be "comfy".
Even if it could, he's still using the same software on any distribution.
Therefore every distribution is comfy according to him, but he only posts for one.
If every is comfy, there is no need to point it out.
Him and you should kill yourselves.

>>61270183
>Le edgy kys meme X---DDDD
Epic

>>61270197
http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/start-ssh-tunnel-pc-boots-windows-alwaysup/

>>61270223
>Software can't be "comfy".
Yes it can you retard.

>>61270226
>Le

>Le

>Le

>>61270223
lol ok I see what's going on here.

I'm just surprised my systemd-shill-O-meter didn't register this hit sooner. Maybe it needs some repairs.

>>61270256

>all he got from that was something systemd
Will your obsession with sytemd ever end? You're as pathetic as the people who post interracial sex and "cuck" posts.

>>61270281
Oh yeah, I nailed it. My meter's going nuts now

Is there a list somewhere of what devaun changes? Like packaging changes or compilations options that they have different from debian. I can't find shit on the website.

>>61270299

You were one of those people who called you a racist when you criticized the president of the US when it was still Obama.

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What's the difference between pkg-src and xbps-src?

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How do I configure mpv or VLC or any other player to use Vsync while not having display compositing enabled.
I've tried most anything and I can't get video playback to work as it should, it's either extremely slow or it has tearing.

>>61270281
>>61270325
You sound like you've been spending way too much time on /pol/, and neither of these posts make any sense whatsoever.
You know that board's nothing but newfags and normalfags right? Try and take it easy

how do you set custom theme/icons for qt apps like calibre on gtk de? it uses default adwaita but id like it to integrate better

>>61261661
fuschia, because google :)
>>61267449
i believe viewnior has image cropping, but its really shitty for that purpose.
imagemagick might be ok for quick edits
>>61268032
>https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShellIntegrationForChrome/Installation#Troubleshooting
>Problem: You are using Firefox and getting high CPU usage and crash when closing browser.
>Resolution: It is a Firefox bug 1349874. You may vote for this bug to get it fixed faster.
fuck GNOME

>>61270361

I don't browse pol.
It's an apt analogy, because according to you anyone who complains about any post mentioning anything systemd related must be a systemd "shill". Just like people used "racist" as a shield against criticism when talking about Obama (I am not even from the US nor am I interested in politics. I just shut down your other "argument").
You are an utter idiot because you fail to grasp something as simple as this.

>>61270362

>how do you set custom theme/icons for qt apps like calibre on gtk de? it uses default adwaita but id like it to integrate better

For Qt5 programs, I use a qtstyle which translates your GTK settings to Qt, including Icons and also the file-dialog.
https://bitbucket.org/trialuser02/qt5gtk2
For Qt4 programs, I use the qtconfig-qt4 tool, but I don't know if it inherits icons too.

>>61270385
Jesus christ you could not be more of a tryhard

>>61270385
>replying to /pol/ boogeyman shitposters
If anyone on ANY board instantly tries to argue you're from /pol/ for little to no reason, stop replying to them. They're mentally ill leftist newfags who only recently started browsing, but refuse to leave because they think 4chan is the hippinest happenest site on the innanet. They'll leave soon enough. We just have to wait.

>>61270527
>leftist
lol, another /pol/fag detected

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Should I install gentoo?

>literally the only arch based installer that will work on my hardware is fucking manjaro
You have got to be fucking shitting me.
Arch gets stuck, antergos gets stuck, archbang gets stuck. But MANJARO? No problem. So fucking annoying since manjaro won't fucking boot when I use the vfio kernel.

In Vim, how would I replace this

    text

with

    new_text

Basically replace each line starting with whitespace and the word with new whitespace and a replacement word?

I'm currently experimenting, but I just can't get it right.

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Does anyone know of a USB wifi adapter compatible with Mint 18.1?

>>61270923

:%s/    text/    new_text/g

>>61270994

Tried it, but it also replaces other blank lines followed by text, that aren't at the beginning of the line. I am currently experimenting with the ^.

>>61270923

:%s/^\( \+\)[^ ]\+/\1new_text/

>>61270923
>>61271002
Learn some regex while you're here

:%s/^\(\s\+\)this/\1that/
:%s                         " Substitute on entire file
   /             /          " Pattern to replace
    ^                       " Only from beginning of a line
     \(    \)               " Capture this pattern
       \s\+                 " Multiple whitespace
             this           " Literal "this"
                 /      /   " Pattern to replace it with
                  \1        " The first captured part
                    that    " Literal "that"

>>61271027
>>61271118

Thanks.

Is there ANY distro that allows installation over another distro while saving personal files (i.e. home) while single partition is used for the whole system?

>>61271256
You can boot into a live disk and use debootstrap/pacstrap whatever. I have only actually used an installer once.

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Is there some kind of script that can go through you music library, read the metadata, and download cover art from sites like Amazon, Discogs, Cover Archive, etc.?

Musicbrainz does do this, but their musical database is incredibly limited, and the number of records that have copyright-free cover art per record in the database is like 1:20.

>>61271546
> http://github.com/sahib/glyr
Packaged on debian and probably others to idk.

>>61271546
Can you program? If so, use ffprobe to get metadata and the last.fm API to download covers... that'll be 50 lines or something.

I wrote one myself but my paths are all clean 'artist/album' so I don't need to parse metadata.

Just moved to a fresh Arch install, this is my first Linux install for a Desktop so I'm pretty new to KDE but I've noticed the scroll wheel on my mouse is a little slow, it takes a lot of time to scroll on certain items like the application menu. Is there a way to get a good unified scroll wheel movement?

>>61271743
Sounds like gremlins. You can change mouse accel in X but to have it different in some applications...

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How to know if someone doesn't use their shell/terminal emulator? It looks like this.
So many useless and ricer shit in it, I don't know where to look first.

>>61272624
icons are pretty though, would grope.

What I should do guys

I installed gentoo with i3 and alsa
I read that pulseaudio need systemd
should I try to use pulseaudio without systemd or stay on alsa?

>>61272839
Pulse does not need systemd on gentoo

>>61272859
"Prerequisites

PulseAudio uses:

sys-fs/udev and sys-auth/consolekit or
sys-apps/systemd"

"Using PulseAudio without udev/systemd is not recommended. It should be noted that this breaks both auto-detection and hot-plugging -- needlessly making your life harder -- as well as disabling ConsoleKit, essentially voiding the article. Please, if you have the possibility to use udev (and you most certainly have), just use it."

source: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PulseAudio

>>61272881
And? You don't need it. You're already probably already an anti-systemd zealot willing to make your life unnecessarily harder just to avoid using it, so this should be nothing new for you.

Is there a way for me to control Firefox remotely?

I just want to relax back on my laptop while controlling Firefox to play back YouTube videos) from my laptop.
Is that possible or should I look into an alternative approach like opening videos with mpv from an SSH session on my laptop?

>>61272911
Today is my first day without systemd
So I try to use alsa, maybe will be good enough for everyday use
Thanks 4 help

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Having some trouble getting nfs to route through my firewall.

Using Arch, the wiki had me set up chains (?) for TCP and UDP, but then a lot of the other articles just talk about

-A INPUT ...

, so I think I need to substitute TCP and UDP for INPUT, or replace the TCP and UDP chains with an INPUT chain?

>>61272984
u can open browser over x forvarding or use vnc or M$ rdp
Read about it and check it out

I accidentally deleted a partition. How do I recover the files from there? I didnt make any writes there yet

>>61272984
You not really explaining your setup suffienciently but the short answer is yes.

>>61273060
Try DMDE on windows, it can even recover whole partition, I deleted partition on my laptop twice. No reinstalling OS

Beginner here. Why should I not use fish?

OpenSUSE or Fedora?

>>61273152
Because it has very small marginal benefit but large incompatability with everything else.

GNU\Linux noob here. I just installed Ubuntu Server for reasons. How do I disable hibernation/sleep? All services don't work anymore when it decides to sleep.

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>trackpad doesn't register if a key is depressed

I thought this was just a windows ease of access kind of thing. Any way to disable it?

Yeah, I could just use a mouse, but I'd like to play Stardew Valley on the go

>>61273152
What is it you want that fish provides and bash doesn't?

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its about time i start thinking about switching from 7, few simple questions.
1. my c: is 100gb, windows is 50, i think about shrinking it to 70 and install kubuntu or other kde distro on these 30gb, is it enough?
2. once i have a dual boot setup, how hard it is to reinstall win7 without fucking linux and vice versa?
3. how hard is to remove linux without fucking my 7 installation?

Hi /fglt/

I'm normally a Debian Testing user running KDE.
I have 2 questions: 1 regarding distros and other regarding DE's

I've gotten pretty fed up with debian testing and sid, but I still like rolling distrubutions a bit more than point release distros. I've been searching and people usually recommend opensuse tumbleweed and arch. I'm somewhat familiar with arch, from reading these threads and I even installed it once in a vm with success. But I hear more and more people talking about tumbleweed. What's your opinion, and how does it compare to arch?

The other question is regarding lightweigh DE's for an old laptop. Since I want something that has plenty of features, pretty much everything other than mate and xfce are ruled out. Assuming that my machine can run both equally well, which one do you prefer and why?

>>61274085
1. It depends on the software you install on your distribution, but given that you are a new user, it should be plenty enough. You could always shrink your windows partition a bit more, if you feel like you are running out of space.

2. Reinstalling windows will not fuck up your linux installation unless you delete those partitions (or format the entire disk, etc). But, it will fuck up yout bootloader, but that can be fixed fairly easily, just make sure to have a liveCD/liveUSB nearby, and search for reinstalling your bootloader (hint: you will be probably using grub as your bootloader, since it is the one used in bios/mbr systems, and also supports gpt/uefi, but it'd be nice if you check wether your device has an uefi or a bios, and in which mode is windoes 7 installed. But usually windows 7 defaults to bios or (legacy bios in an uefi system)

Reinstalling linux, on the other hand, will not fuck up your windows installation, nor your bootloader.

3. Fairly easy

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>Make a fresh installation on my headless server.
>Now after several days all of the drivers are loaded, all software is installed, all configs are neatly set just like i like them
>there is nothing more to be done
>realize how empty my life is
>no friends to party with, no hobbies to do
>all i can do is sit here and pray that something breaks so i can take my mind off the fact how pathetic i am and how pointless everything in life is and how nothing i will ever do will have any meaning in the grand scheme of things

p-please sudo apt dist-upgrade.. break something... PLEASE!!

>>61260019
What is the best chink x86 tablet for Linux?

>>61274487
just install arch

Anyone using NixOS and have video thumbnails working in Thunar? I can't seem to figure it out. I have image thumbs, just not video.

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Is it possible to remove an ext4 partition on a hard drive i use only for storage and to merge that free space with the NTFS partition on that hard drive?

>>61274909
only if that ext partition is right after ntfs

>>61274909
Sounds like a filthy tratior wants to delete loonix and crawl back to windows, why the fuck should i waste my time helping a dumb cuck like you?

Why is mpd + ncmpcpp not working?

I have mpd running as my own user so permissions aren't a problem, and I can even see in my mpd log file that it adds all my music, so it is finding them correctly and able to read it.

ncmpcpp says it connects, and I also see mpd print a message (in --no-daemon mode) that it has been connected to.
Yet it always shows 0 songs. I did press "u" to update, and like I said I can confirm that mpd has indeed updated and added all my music. Why the fuck would I be seeing 0 items in ncmpcpp?

>>61275100

Did you configure ncmpcpp with the music library location?

How do you copy and paste in a terminal emulator like urxvt or in the virtual console when xorg isn't turned on because pressing ctrl + c and ctrl + v doesn't work.

>>61275145
No, you mean mpd? I thought ncmpcpp was just a client that connected to mpd so only mpd had to know where my music is

>>61273707

Took me 5 seconds to figure out why.
Here are some keywords to get your started: trackpad input driver, synaptics, libinput, xorg configuration file, synaptics or libininput option

>>61275145
>>61275167
but yes, I've configured mpd with my music location. It has to be right otherwise I wouldn't see it adding all of my music in my log file.

>>61275167
>>61275180

No, yo uhave to specify your library location in ncmpcpp's configuration as well.

I want to install Ubuntu on out living room HTPC but mom won't let me because she says it uses something called systemd, I don't even know what that is, why is she being such a bitch about it?

>>61275190

Actually, upon inspecting it, it's only needed for the tag editor to apparently work. I don't know, it wouldn't hurt.
Try a different client to make sure it's an ncmpcpp config issue.

>>61275209

install gentoo

>>61274963
wrong
i just gave my linux partition too much space. im keeping the swap partition as well as my linux installation on my SSD

so please help

>>61274720
ffmpegthumbnailer and you have to add a mimetype in tumblerd iirc

>>61275297
Alright, I already have the ffmpegthumbnailer so I guess it's the mimetype issue then

what are the best fonts to install for asian characters?

>>61274555
Bump

>>61271118
beautiful

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>>61275856
NotoSansCJKjp is one of the best. It can actually compete with Meiryo at really small font sizes and looks much better and more natural at normal sizes in my opinion.

Although it always seemed to have really huge and ugly line spacing for some reason (pic related, on the right). I think a lot of new fonts are doing this now and I don't know why, but there's an older version of it that was built with a smaller line spacing, so that's what I've been using

If you don't mind having microsoft fonts installed then Meiryo is still good to have on hand as it's sort of becoming a "standard" for japanese fonts, also MSPGothic which was the previous standard.

install systemd

>>61275856
>>61276079
Oh, also some good replacements for MSPGothic which also display SJIS text art perfectly are:
Mona, Textar, Monapo, and Konatu.
IPAMonaPGothic is another really good one, but doesn't always render text art perfectly.

>>61276079
WenQuanYi Bitmap Song plays nice with other bitmap fonts like Terminus.

>>61276140
I liked that one too but I think it's made for Chinese. Which I guess that anon might be fine with since he didn't specify.
But people should be aware that there are a few characters in Chinese and Japanese fonts which use the same exact unicode code points and will look different depending on which language your font is made for.
So if you're more interested in properly displaying Japanese text I wouldn't use that one. IPAMonaPGothic plays really nice with terminus too. Shows up nice and big

>>61276177
Thanks

>>61276177
>>61276203
and yes I mean "IPAMonaPGothic", not "IPAMonaGothic". Ironically the proportional width one looks better in the terminal as a fallback than the monospaced one does.

New thread?

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>>61275176
>took 5 seconds
>to make 6 searches

You must be awesome at Dvorak

>>61276079
Doesn't Unifont cover all chink scribbles?

>>61276511
It has the same problem as this though: >>61276177

I think it leans more toward the Chinese side? Not completely sure.
But it doesn't matter anyway because it looks like complete ass. The creator of the font himself said nobody should ever have to use his font. It's purpose is basically just so you can see what you're actually missing instead of just seeing a bunch of squares.

>>61275856
I use aquafont but its a freehand

>>61271546
The best album art downloader I have ever used was the one in musicbee it downloads from several sources and you can pick which one you like the best. I always pick the highest resolution/best quality one and name it cover.jpg. I never embed.

musicbee is windows only but I have heard it runs fine in wine

>>61274487
So start doing something that has meaning.