/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>61222356
Holy fuck, anon. At least find a new anime OP.

*snap*
Oh shit, which one of you was that?

>>61222369
The classics are nice once in a while, too. This goes for a lot of things.

>>61222370
Sorry anon, I think I bent my Senns a bit too far.

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Yo, I live in a shitty 3rd world country, searched everywhere and everything I find is the sony zx100/300 some philips shit, some overpriced yamaha and the akg k 52, should I go for some sony ones? Anyone has any experience with k52? Also, will use them to play games and watch may

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?


>>61222356
Miya-miya a cute. A cute!!

>>61222380
Ah man, it happens. But shit lucky for you everything is modular with the HD600! Only $90 for a new headband.

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How do you girls deal with the wait for your packages?

>>61222483
Sleep 'till it arrives.

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>>61222483
By riding the CC, of course.

>Budget
$300
>Location
USA
>Source
Magni
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Is anyone going to put uncomfortable here?
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
KSC75, DT880

Looking for a replacement for my DT880; its stress relief failed and the cable came clear out of the can. Would prefer something with a detachable cable to prevent this from happening again, and would prevent something with much less harsh sounding treble. My KSC75 honestly sounded better than the DT880s but I've been using the DT880s because they're way more comfortable and the KSC75 hurt the top of the ears after a while.

>>61222566
>$300, open, full size, neutral
This is the right timing for HD600. They're <$300 at amazon right now.

>>61222566
Do the headband mod for your KSC75. Literally no need to spend hundreds of dollars on retarded memephones, just use EQ.

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>>61222566
DT880 is completely modular and can be repaired.

If you want to buy a new headphone I recommend the HD600 (also completely modular).

>>61222566
>Looking for a replacement for my DT880; its stress relief failed and the cable came clear out of the can.
pics?

>>61222566
>its stress relief failed and the cable came clear out of the can
>harsh sounding treble
You're definitely not the first to report these issues with the DT770/880/990. HD600 is the perfect solution for your needs.

>>61222566
Pics or I'm calling bullshit.

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>>61222609
>>61222594
>>61222581
Whoa man looks like everyone is recommending the HD600. I better get it. Thanks guys! I'll be sure to buy it.

[thank you ranjesh, 15 cents have been deposited into your account]

>>61222656
see:
>>61222635
>>61222606
I call bullshit, this is falseflagging. Post your broken DT880 so we know you're aren't shitposting/shilling.

>>61222671
No shit it's falseflagging. Sennshills are pathetic and stupid.

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>>61222656
(I'm one of these recommenders)
Honestly, I'd put it on the amazon cart (protects price for a few hours) and go watch some youtube HD600 reviews. Buy with confidence, not just because it's popular in 4chan (well deserved imho, but you really should doublecheck).

Idol trash going to sleep. Good night Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaoLs-Qowf4

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>>61222689
DELETE THIS

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>>61222566
Wait a minute, anon... Are you trying to fool me into buying those "fancy" headphones again?

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Official Pajeetphones manufacturer: mudheiser

Not only do the sound like POO, they smell like it too!

WTF?! Buy a pair of AirPods, you shitting stret pajeets! My god, they're more headphones than you'll ever need!

>>61222790
>wireless headphones that don't even stay in your ears
Whoever thought this was a good idea?

>>61222806
>Lose an Apple AirPod
>Have to buy another one
>Profit
This is almost a nice as the modular system Sennheiser did with their HD 6X0 headphones.

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>>61222369
OK

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What's the second best headphone in the world behind the HD600?

>>61222961
HD580.

>>61222384
Buy chinkphones from Aliexpress.

>>61222566
>its stress relief failed and the cable came clear out of the can.
The fuck is everyone doing with their headphones? The only headphones that EVER failed on me in any way are chink IEM's..
Call beyerdynamic and tell them to replace the cable and mod it to take a 3.5mm so that this doesn't happen again. Invest the rest into a second pair if you feel like you still need to.

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>Topping D30 & A30 massdrop
>7 hours left
I think I'm going to pull the trigger on chinkshit guys. I probably don't even need the amp yet but fuck I just want to buy these and never worry about DAC/amps anymore. The small amounts of discussion I've read seems to say that it adds nothing to the sound which is great.

I don't know why I'm hesitating. It's only $185 for the stack, and I don't want the schiit stack because snake oil and their product(s) breaking headphones thing.

pic related (the guy switched out the opamps though), I don't see any red flags, not that I would be able to recognize.

>>61223145
Go for it dude. If you get a lemon, massdrop will refund you. The customer service is slow but reliable.

>>61223145
I remember considering a Topping combined DAC/Headphone amp/T-class speaker amp a while back. I decided not to pull the trigger after reading reports that it used a very noisy power supply. Do research to make sure these products don't also have noisy wallwarts.

>>61223195
well the reviews and discussion I've seen (so far) have been pretty positive about it. Build quality apparently really good which is what i'm surprised and still skeptical about.

but the review I'm reading is also saying
>Ok it is not as refined, and doesn’t have as wide a soundstage as some of the more expensive DAC’s out there, but for the price the features and sound really make it very good value for money indeed.
DACs affect the soundstage too? That sounds like bullshit.

Holy fuck the hd650s are amazing. Fuck you all

>>61223215
A DAC or amp could affect soundstage by having too much stereo crosstalk.

>>61223145
>I don't want the schiit stack because snake oil and their product(s) breaking headphones thing
>I don't want the magni 2 because schiit sells expensive dacs and the controversy around the 1st version of the asgard 1
I beg your pardon

>2017
>people still buy useless and outdated amp/dac stacks

usb interfaces were a thing over a decade ago
you know, the thing that literal professionals use to make music on their headphones and monitors

>>61223290
1. Have features not useful to me (mic inputs and such).
2. Not aesthetic.

>>61223319
there exist small variants without extra inputs or whatever

>>61223335
Yeah, they're called DAC/amps. Be they in a stack of some sort or not.

>>61223343
nope, single usb interfaces

>>61223335
most people here haven't even moved on to speakers so those things are overkill for them

man once I get my own house, I'll set up my own little studio with a nice piano and whatever hooked up together.

>>61223352
Link me to one.

And they're still DAC/amps cause guess what, they got a DAC and they got an amp.

Does the HD in Sennheiser phones stand for "Huge Disappointment"?

>>61223397
no, it stands for Huge Definition

>>61223397
Yes.

DT for Beyerdynamics stands for "Dangerous Treble"

>>61223397
>>61223408
What about AKG's K?

>>61223397
>>61223408
damn...

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>Budget
0 - 150 USD
0 - 300 AUD

>Location
Melbourne, AU

>Source
phone, bluetooth. choice is good, so a wired optioned bluetooth would be preferred

>Type of headphone
over ear

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
very comfy, for travelling

>Sound signature
neutral

>Past headphones
pic related

I dont mind buying used / pre-owned. noise cancelling is a plus, but if the seal is good enough, then i wont complain.

>>61223427
Kill (yourself)

What's the general consensus on Denon headphone amps?

>>61223447
Huge Disappointment 600
Dangerous Treble 880
Kys 701

Amazing.

>>61223432
m40x

>>61223397
Sony's MDR?

>>61223466
/hpg/ shitposting can do wonders when done correctly

>>61223470
He asked for comfy.

>>61223525
m40x with new pads

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This looks really ugly to me for some reason, but I'm looking at the ebony fostex and they look nice.

still
>non-detachable cables without modding

What's the consensus to using wood for headphones though? Cracking/deformation sounds inevitable especially in places with winters. I mean you can treat it like a guitar but that sounds like a pain.

>>61223562
Wood is generally a poor choice because it's generally more resonant than polymers. Sennheiser's extensive research into the HD800 determined that certain polymers are the least resonant headphone manufacturing materials.

>>61223665
is there a plus to it at least? Like nice to have a wooden headphone in a repertoire just for whatever uniqueness that may give? Or by resonant do you mean just a noisy/interfering mess? I guess that would explain my that innerfidelity guy says the wooden headphones were better sounding on low volumes.

>>61223408
I laughed louder than I should

>>61223665
>>61223705
It's most likely that the effect of wood instead of plastic is inaudible. As long as it doesn't affect the usual measurements - FR, distortion, and to a lesser extent CSD - it shouldn't matter at all.

>>61223705
>is there a plus to it at least?
Just aesthetics. Resonance is literally a form of distortion as it's not part of the original signal.

>>61224002
Bass resonance can take a long-ass time to completely decay, as I'm sure you've seen in CSD measurements. I wouldn't be surprised if the extra bass resonance certain woods can create can be audible.

>>61224024
Well I'm not sure if these particular headphones have been measured, but if they have, the CSD graph should let you know that. If the CSD shows an all clear, then it doesn't matter.

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>>61224047
One example.

>>61224112
Like I said, it varies from headphone to headphone. It's illogical to draw conclusions about EVERY wooden headphone based on one.

https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-j-r/th-x00-mahogany-massdrop/

>>61224144
>It's illogical to draw conclusions about EVERY wooden headphone based on one.
Of course. That's why I've used:
>generally
>certain woods

>>61224154
There's not really enough data to even suggest a trend, or to say that wood is a "poor choice".

I can understand getting modi 2 uber for the optical input but what's better about the magni 2 uber?

>>61224268
Speaker pre-outs.

at the moment i'm tossing up between the D30 + A30, the DAC-X6 or the Fulla 2

Does anyone have any other recommendations around that price range? this will be my first amp/dac, for my K271 mkiis

>>61224268
It takes external power, not from the usb port, which supposedly makes it better

>>61224367
I read that wrong. It has pre-outs, a different chasis, and more power.

>>61224286
>K271 mkiis
I have AKG K702s and I barely get to 2 or 3 (out of 9) on my E10K DAC/Amp. The Fulla2 will be good enough if it's anything like the E10K.

I'm more inclined to believe that DAC/amp is a whole marketing meme. I don't really hear a difference between my E10K and my onboard audio. Granted I have a newer mobo so maybe my onboard audio was just great in the first place, but the headphone amp requirements that people parrot around are usually overblown.

in more cases I'm guessing some people just like how their DAC or amp color/distort the sound of their music. I just joined the D30/A30 drop myself just to see if I'll even hear a difference.

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>>61224175
The plastic Denon D2000, which is a nearly identical design to the D5000, is significantly less resonant than the mahogany D5000. Mahogany is definitely firmly on the denser, less resonant side of woods.

>>61224457
Perhaps one pair was faulty. Or perhaps the design of the chamber changed significantly between the plastic and the wood. You don't know.

>>61224465
Here we have four extremely similar designs from Audio Technica:
http://en.goldenears.net/5351
http://en.goldenears.net/21225
http://en.goldenears.net/13934
http://en.goldenears.net/4490
The wooden one is the most resonant.

>>61224566
Look at the FR curves. Very different headphones. Again, multitude of reasons for differences.

Can you use the walnut v2s as a desktop DAC/AMP ?

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Lower scores are better.

>>61224857
Congratulations on making your e-penis larger, anon! Thankfully, headphones are subjective.

>>61224857
Dangerous Treble and Kill Yourself BTFO

>>61224857
>770 recommended more than 880
>770 recommended more than 650
Opinion discarded.

>>61224857
Why the fuck is B&W on that list? What the fuck is this, anon?

>>61222566
>>61224857
Fuck off with your shilling.

>>61222356
>tfw no headphone loving gf

>>61224924
>>61222243
>Beyerdynamic shills literally on suicide watch over one anon who didn't like his pair's treble and build quality

>>61224983
*snap*

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>>61224990
Yes, that's what Beyers do.

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>>61224983
Man, at least put some effort into your shitposting. Are Sennheisers this drained on creativity?

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>>61225001
>Are Sennheisers this drained on creativity?
>he thinks I'm a sentient headphone

>>61225000
The headband or the hinges; that is the question.

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>>61225000
When a snapheiser snaps, it sends plastic shards everywhere at up to 300mph or 482km/h. Snapheiser's don't just have shitty sound, they're a health hazard. Beyerdynamic uses safe plastics which rarely snap and are never hazardous.

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>>61225027
>Beyers
>not health hazards

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Not only do snapheisers snap, they sometimes chip as well, releasing toxic carcinogenic particles. It's a wonder they can still sell them in the US!

>>61225027
>>61225048
Ladies, ladies, they're both health hazards, alright? One just takes $100 from your AFTER snapping! Talk about being a jewish slut, am I rite?

You know i wouldn't mind getting the HD600's if they didn't look so fucking stupid.

http://www.changstar.com/www.changstar.com/index.php/topic%2c987.msg25480.html#msg25480
Discuss.

>>61225115
Swap the shit out with 650 parts besides drivers.

>>61225115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LCSAUZQyJA
Just don't use piss yellow.

>>61225132
>Paying $100+ To swap out the headband and other parts
What are you, a kike?

>>61225137
>linking fat faggot loser retard audiophool headphone "reviewer" zeos

>>61225137
>>61225132
Nah, just the shape of the cans, it looks dumb to me, I can't explain it.

>>61225140
>suggest paying more than the advertised price of the headphone for aesthetics
>called a kike
Are you mentally defficient?

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I don't see DT880 here. Oh, wait, I didn't expect to.

>>61225209
>Paying $100 for a fucking headband
Lmao. Sennheiser shills are going to defend this.

>>61225214
>that font rendering
>/r/headphones
kek.

>>61225219
I don't own 600's and don't plan on it in the future. Bass roll off turns me away from it.

>>61225214
Holy shit, dude. Hide your fucking power level and go back. Are Sennshills this fucking autistic? Lmao.

>>61225235
"Clear"type a shit.
>he likes blurry fonts

>>61225256
>windows
double kek.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10478477/r
Discuss.

>>61225273
They don't call 'em Sennshills for nothing ;)

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Ouchey, didja look at your sennies wrong again? You know they don't like to be looked at that way.

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>>61222369
Its hard when you limit yourself to anime girls wearing sennheiser headphones.

>>61225337
>ultrasones
god damn that's even worse than sennheisers
maybe use that next time

>>61222384
Look at mercadolibre, I bought a pair of SHP 9500 for a reasonable price there, now the same fucker doubled the price.

>>61225355
It does have a comfy feel to it though

https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/brutefir.html
Could I set this up to run system-wide in Linux automatically on every reboot? If so, this is essentially a Linux equivalent to Equalizer APO, since Room EQ Wizard can export EQ filter settings as impulse responses.

>>61222384
what country?

>>61225424
America.

>>61223562
Solid wood speakers will change sound as the weather changes. I wonder if wooden headphones change sound as the weather changes, making EQ pointless?

K7XX OR HD6XX?????????????????????

>>61225570
What do you even want in a pair of headphones?

>>61225570
6XX just ended and probably won't be back until Christmas, but K7XX are like every other month

>>61225570
Worse 712 or 650*

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Which akg headphone is this supposed to be based on?

Are superchinks hd668b still worth it in 2017?

>>61225605
IDK about the K7XX, but I have not heard of an issue with the 6XX being worse

>>61225739
>K7XX

Whats the price? Do they ship worldwide?

>>61222566
hd600

>>61225618
K240?

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If you are not hearing your headphone with s2, you haven't live.

LOCATION: USA ORLANDO,FL UNTIL JULY 10 THEN UK

**Budget**- 400$ max. Not too flexible but if there's a recommendation close by then do iclude.


Source - My android, and windows laptop.


Isolation- I won't mind if it doesn't affect the sound quality. But I won't go out of my way to seek it out either. It's a nice plus?


Using them in Public? - Mainly at home, airplanes, and commutes. So yes.


**Preferred Type of Headphone** - Whichever offers the best sound quality for the budget. I'm guessing that'd be full-sized (but closed since I'll be using these in public). I'm fine with IEMs or on-ears if they would provide better overall sq.


**Preferred tonal balance**- I'm not quite sure so I was gonna go for neutrals. I listen to a lot of /mu/core if that helps. To be more specific maybe: Radiohead, Mac Demarco, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Arcade Fire, Fleet Foxes, Gorillaz etc.


**Past headphones**- Sennheiser Momentum 2 IEM. Great little pair of buds but they're growing old and a part of the plastic covering the wires is torn so the wires are exposed. Plus the plastic buds keep falling off all the time. I feel like their days are numbered.


**Preferred Music**- Already said above but yeah let's just add Sigur Ros, FJM, Animal Collective, Tame Impala, King Gizzard, King Crimson, Black Emperor, The Velvet Underground, Neutral Milk Hotel, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller, SBTRKT to cover some more bases.


**What would you like to improve on from your set-up**- Sound quality. Maybe wireless because I have a tendency to move away from my laptop and forget that I'm connected to it. Obviously as long as the wireless doesn't affect the quality noticeably.


**What are you looking for going into your next headphones?** - I' only had the senns m2 iem and generic earbuds. Idk what I like yet so I'd get something that works with a variety. Plus I like to keep music as vanilla as possible, never liked messing with the equaliser.

>>61226252
Man, that's a post you can't miss.

>Budget
$800
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, Scarlett 2i2 interface
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy as fuck
>Sound signature
Neutral to slightly warm, tight and controlled but deep bass. No nigger bass cans though.
>Past headphones
AKG K142, ATH M50, DT880 600Ohm

So I already have a very good speaker setup and I want to get a pair of headphones to either come close to the sound quality of my system or match it so I can listen at night. For reference my audio chain is PC>Scarlett 2i2>Yamaha C60 pre>Yamaha M60 amp>Dynaudio Confidence C1.

>>61226183
Is it possible to complement open headphones lack of bass with a subwoofer or bass pack like that one?

>>61227809
Nope, shit's retarded.

>>61227809
You definitely can, it provides a much needed kick in sound that headphones cannot provide

>>61228028
I'm sure you've tried it

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>>61226252
What a goy..

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>>61225214
>that font rendering
>going to plebbit

>>61226252
Look into Sennheiser HD600.

I just got the schiit modi&magni, set them up, modi works just fine but magni doesn't detect my headphones and the light doesn't turn on. Anybody with this issue?

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Trying for a while now to find a good replacement for my current headphones.
The cable is an annoyance to me so I was considering something wiredless.
My budget is between 100-300 euros/dollars.
I'm not an audiophile, but still I would like something reliable with good quality and sound's isolement. Thanks in advance

>>61228957
>and the light doesn't turn on.
Light should be on if the power supply is attached and the power switch is on. It'll be on even if there's no headphones attached.
Maybe you got a dud wallwart? Email Schiit for support.

>>61222356
What are some cheap earphones with sturdy cable?
I wear my earbuds to bed, and I toss and turn, often having the cable get tangled up, which generally reduces the lifespan of the thing, so I need something that can withstand it.

Is there a device I can buy that allows me to plug more than one pair of headphones into a single headphone amplifier without adding and noise or coloration? Essentially a headphone hub or splitter, so to speak.

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>>61229476

>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada (Amazon Preferred)
>Source
Audio Jack (Phones and shit)
>Type of headphone
Earbuds (I currently used apple ones)
>Open or closed
Closed (I'm assuming)
>Comfort level
Very important.
>Sound signature
I don't know what this is. Balanced?
>Past headphones
Apple earbuds, Bose ones which went around my ear, Seinheiser HD598 DR

Need a new daily everywhere (work and gym) earbud. $100 cad or there abouts max. Amazon preferred.

>>61229062
>Maybe you got a dud wallwart?

With the cheap ass Chinese wallwarts Schiit supplies with their products, I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

>>61229656
https://www.amazon.ca/Etymotic-Research-Isolator-Noise-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B00OQG7IC2

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Are these good at all?

I want to buy the K7XX just to pair it up with the HD6XX even though I already have the K702.

the way I'm rationalizing is it that the earpads are already half the cost of the headphones so it's more economical to buy the K7XX and have another set of headphones compared to just buying the earpads separately, but this may be dumb.

am I slipping?

I remember the O2 guy saying someone tested out really bad opamps in sequence and that no difference could be heard with around 4 or less opamps.

I'm browsing through headfi and I see some peopel talking about what to upgrade the opamp with in their amp (some apparently costing up to $50 just for that tiny part). Is this part of the snake oil bullshit?

>>61228572

nice meme but im gonna pretend you're being serious and say that ill be wearing them in public so no studios.

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I just bought this, what do you guys think?

>>61227719
Your Scarlett 2i2 connects to your PC via USB type B, correct?

>>61229947
>this may be dumb.

It is.

>>61229947
you won't have another set of headphones, you'll have two of the same headphone
buy the k712 instead or if you want something cheaper try the new k245

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00

Should I pull the trigger, bros?

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Poor guy got memed by Zeos into buying a shitty "balanced" Aune amp and audiophool cable.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/aune-x7s-balanced-headphone-amp/talk

>Budget
$80 - Flexible
>Location
US
>Source
Work laptop
>Type
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Important
>Sound Signature
?
>Previous headphones
Currently using mdr 7506 at home

Looking for some decent headphones to use while I'm at work. Preferably not too much sound leakage

>>61230832
>open
>not too much sound leakage

>>61230823
who even needs a balanced output for home use?

>>61230863
The reason I say open is so I'm not totally isolated when people need to get my attention

My brother asked me to find him headphones he could use for his Xbone, could you /g/ays help me out
>Budget
$70 limit
>Location
USA
>Source
Xbox One
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
any are fine but i guess open would be better
>Comfort level
should be pretty comfortable

and also the important part is that it needs a really good mic.

>>61230874
Maybe if you're running a cable from one side of the house to the other there would be some practical benefit, but why would you need to do something like that in the first place?

They'll still tell you they can hear the difference. You've just got to believe...

http://ethanwiner.com/believe.html

Will I become stupid if I decide to have a dedicated power distributor or even conditioner just for my headphone system?

>>61231978
>become stupid
No, you'd only do that if you were a moron in the first place.
Just get a schiit stack and call it a day. Any more than that, and it's audiophoolery.

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Best noise-cancelling headphones coming through.

>>61232065
So, is there any >USD1000 equipment that is not considered as audiophoolery in this general? For example the Benchmark DAC2/DAC3 series which excels in measurement?
I know Schiit stack is cheap and can do good, but there should be something, regardless of price, that can just outperform them.

>>61232384
>outperform schiit stack
Sure. Even schiit has more expensive shit. The issue is that any improvements at that point should not be hearable.

>>61232384
>I know Schiit stack is cheap and can do good, but there should be something, regardless of price, that can just outperform them.

Around that price range, there's this: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

I don't recommend spending much more than that.

>>61232539
>outperform
Are there trustworthy measurements somewhere?

>>61232559
Not that I know of, other than the specs listed on there, but it is quite a bit better than the Schiit stack.

>>61226252
what the fuck fix your shit man
this aint reddit

>>61232742
>not that I know of
>but it's better!
Sure, it's more expensive, so it'll be perceived as better.
That's why we need measurements.

>>61232900
You don't have to take my word for it, but the Schiit stack is overpriced for what it is, to be honest.

>>61232965
The modi definitely is. It's just a DAC ffs.
The magni isn't, particularly the non-uber one.

>>61232900
Note that actual measurements for Schiit's stuff is rare as well. I personally haven't seen any.

i've narrowed my search to either the Yamaha EPH-100 or Dunu DN-1000. which do I pick /hpg/ i can't decide

>>61233314
flip a coin

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Can someone explain to me the difference between a unit like this
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PHA40-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B003M8NVFS
and something like a SMSL amp or the magni? It looks like a professional device and I love that it can do multiple headphones at once. I have a few at my desk and I would prefer to not have to switch which one is plugged in.
Is what I linked sufficient for pushing a dt990 and hd600?
I already have a DAC

>>61231807
That's a really great link that makes a lot of logical sense. The same could probably apply to headphones, too, as Tyll's graphs show that small changes in how they fit on the head can produce very audible changes in sound.

>>61233490
>Pyle
Just no. Worse than Behringer.

>>61233490
Not a rule against those types of devices in general, but that particular one has 3.5 stars. Prolly would look for another unit of that type if that's what you're interested in.

>>61233587
Okay, thanks. Yeah I'm not overly concerned with that specific unit it was just the first one I found on amazon.
There is a distinct difference in price and aesthetic between devices like the one I linked and the audiophile schiit/fiio/smsl kind but they seem to do the same exact thing, increase volume.
Is there something these professional/musician looking amps don't do that the audiophile ones do?

>>61233627
If they measure as good, they sound as good. Maybe they're not built as sturdy as the audiophile stuff which is usually all metal, but otherwise there shouldn't be a difference. Also I don't think you get stuff like gain switches for more fine tuned volume control.

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>>61233662
Alright, thanks again.
I'm thinking of picking up the Monoprice desktop amp. It has a DAC too so I can free my dragonfly from my desk and leave it with my phone. They want $80 for it and it's only a little bit less powerful than the magni but my dragonfly is just barely too weak for the dt990s. At 100% volume it reaches listening level but I think it's coming at the cost of sound quality so I'm buying an amp that doesn't need to be at 100% output all the time.
Looking at:
Micca Origin+ which I would plug into my onboard audio with optical
Magni which I would plug into the dragonfly
Monorpcie desktop amp/dac

>>61233716
>Monoprice desktop amp
>10 ohm output impedance
Inexcusable. Avoid.

>>61233716
Take a look at the FX Audio DAC-X6 as well.

>>61233716
I'd get a Magni and new headphones with actual midrange response.

>>61233716
The monoprice one is bad with low impedance headphones. The micca I've heard is quite weak. The fiio e10k, fx dac-x6, or magni would probably do the job, it's just a matter of how much you're willing to pay for aesthetics.

>>61233716
I've bought three things from Monoprice and none of them lasted more than a few months. At this point I'm convinced they're only useful for cheap cables.

>>61233747
>>61233755
>>61233770
>>61233780
>>61233782
uh wow thanks guys.
I can get the magni b-stock for $89 but the Fx-6 is only $65 so I guess I'll just get that.
Is it possible that the dragonfly is negatively affecting my headphones? I used to have dt990s and a Topping amp back in the day and I remember it sounds way different but I sold them. Bought a new pair of 990s and the dragonfly.
Looking into new headphones but I can't really afford it right now. Really want the Monolith M1060

>>61233830
>Looking into new headphones
HD600
>but I can't really afford it right now
Sell the shitty DT990

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>>61233910
>>61233910
I'd much prefer a m1060 and to keep my dt990 as I like them.

>>61233966
>Monoprice
They won't last 6 months.

>>61230262
What's the output impedance?

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Did I fuck up?

>>61234114
>shitty retard gaming headset
Yes. Should have gotten an SHP9500 and a BoomPro.

>>61234121
Are they better, while still being wireless. And do they have a microphone?

>>61234121
why not just recommend hyperx clouds to gamers

>>61226252
fuck off cancer

>>61234121
Boompro is a microphone
look it up

>>61234138

>>61234246

i know its sorta off topic but do any of you know anything about speakers?

im considering getting these, http://www.htd.com/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers?color=1

are there better ones in the ~200 dollar price range?

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>>61234138
>wireless

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>>61233565
Exactly. Don't believe their lies. There's just a huge market for this sort of thing.

http://ethanwiner.com/audiophoolery.html

>>61234390
Fluance Signature

>>61234491
>using blood pythons for cables

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>>61234491
kek.

>>61229792
Stock? No.
Modded? Hell yes.

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So how are zero audio's iems? Are they actually decent for the price or just a shitty meme? I know the only exposure it got in the west were the tenore and basso models but I was thinking of paying a bit more and getting the zb-03 from nipponese amazon. http://www.zeroaudio.jp/product_ZB-03_01.html

Should I bother or are there better iems for around $50 usd? The iems in the old pastebins are fucking old and I don't know if they're still relevant with all the competition thats coming out.

>>61235002
>zero bass

Is that a Sennheiser design?

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>>61235091
Just buy this: Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless.

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Looking for some IEMS I can workout with.

Budget is 100~ Burger IOUs

If it matters I listen mostly to Metal or Rap.

Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.

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>>61235112
>beats

>>61235638
>Rap
Beats

If you don't have a pair of beats you're just a poser.

So I want to build my own headset by combining a VModa Boompro and a pair of good headphones so that I can listen to music and shit but only have to deal with one set of headphones for both.

I need something that the boompro can plug into without modification if possible.

So far I’ve looked at

ATH-M40x
SPH9500
HD558

Would like to stay under $120 as I’m poor so that leaves around $90-100 for the headphones.

>>61236279
The HD558 is at a crazy low price right now, so I'd suggest that.

>>61236279
Also I do own Cloud IIs already as well as a pair of poor fag Superlux HD681Evos

Should I just keep what I have instead?

I’d just like to be able to bring it all down to 3 pairs (AirPods for out of home use, Xiaomi in ears if I don’t want full headphones, and headphones)

>>61236292
Yeah it’s like $70 at Best Buy right now, but I just realized they need modded to use the boompro

>>61236279
>>61236317

>>61236279
SPH9500 is ideal since it doesn't require modding the cable lock like the HD558. Really cheap too; it was on sale for $50 a few days ago.

I have never heard a proper argument on why everyone wants to use external sound cards compared to pci-e expansion cards.

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my friend's autistic audiophile father keeps praising this koss portapro headphones at every chance get gets. he claims that they are the best headphones you can buy. are they really that good or is he an idiot?

>>61236408
In its price category? Absolutely.
Best headphones ever? lolno

>>61236402
External DAC+amp isolates your audio chain from the possibly noisy internals of a PC.
Having to access the rear of a PC to plug in/unplug devices is also possibly inconvenient for many users.
In additional, digital (software) volume control lowers signal to noise ratio. A physical analog volume control knob does not.

>>61236408
For outside use, at their price, they're pretty good.
Best headphones? Clearly not true, as portapros ain't HD600.

>>61236408
They're absurdly good for their price.
>>61236439
KSC75 are actually better for less. KSC75 have a funny way of making audiophiles re-evaluate the hundreds/thousands they've spent on gear.

>>61236458
I should have rephrased myself. I have never heard a proper argument from an electrical engineer.

>>61236490
You need an electrical engineer to confirm that having to access the back of a PC can be inconvenient?

>soundstage
>real

>>61236578
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17224

>>61236527
You deliberately picked the portion of the reply that makes my response seem silly.

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>>61236592

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>>61236592

>>61236402
http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf relevant.

>>61236408
They're pretty good for their price. I would think CAL would give it a run for its money at $50.
>>61236402
I just have one as a quick remedy until I can find a decently powerful amp with mic input so I don't have to have 2 seperate boxes to talk and hear shit. I'm not going to pay $250 for an O2 with mic input (Mayflower ARC)

>>61236578
>your mom
>not a whore

>>61222369
Or even better
use an image that's actually useful and not some stupid image
put a guide or something as the image ffs

>>61236947
Anime OP images are tradition for /hpg/, blasphemer.

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>>61236947
Fuck off to reddit, you pleb.

>>61222356
Ear dildos
Best one for around $50
All they need to do is fit in my ear and not be terribly uncomfortable like the apple ones

Anyone have experience making diy foam tips from cheap earplugs? Comply just give me the best seal+comfort but they lose their quality in like a month for me and I hate spending money on them. Are diy ones close to sound/isolation to them? I know about how foam affects SQ and such and I'm fine with it.
TL;DR Are cheap diy foam tips as good as comply

>>61236983
>>>/a/
>>>/9fag/
12 year olds need to stop ruining /g/

>>61236998
Tennmak Pro
ZS5 with new tips
MEE M6 Pro
Soundmagic E10/E30/E50

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>>61237028
normie riffraff should kill themselves.

>>61235112
At least it has bass, I guess.

>>61237030
Ah that was one thing I forgot to put in there
How long are the cables on those normally?
My problem with my current eardildos (since I lost my good pair) is that they barely reach my ear since I'm very tall.
The mee and the tennmak didn't look all that long, but I do like the idea of the cable going over my ear.

>>61236461
At least they don't S N A P

>>61236578
>Inb4 HD 600 owner

>>61237028
>complaining about 2D on a ugrian cave painting forum
>>61237130
>riff raff

get a fucking rope, both of you faggots.

Are all gaming headsets trash?

>>61237227
Generally; some are at least bearable for the price.

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>>61237227
Yes.

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>>61237001
Sony makes some awesome eartips which you can only buy from Japan. They're silicone with foam inside. Pic related.
I successfully made homemade ones. I cut earplugs to the length of the tips, poked a hole through them with a safety pin, expanded said hole with a rat tooth comb, inverted standard silicone tips on said rat tooth comb, slid the earplugs over the inverted silicone tip then uninverted the silicone tip over the earplug. They isolated really well but I stopped using them because they added bass response, I EQ all my gear to neutrality and, at the time, I didn't have a way of measuring IEMs.
I may give this method a try again now that I have since figured out a way of accurately measuring IEMs.

>>61237316
The advantage of eartips like these over foam or silicone is that they have better isolation than either with the form-fittingness of foam and the longevity of silicone.

>>61237316
>rat tooth comb
I meant rat tail comb. Rat tooth comb doesn't even make sense. What the fuck, me?

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>>61237172
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-600
Soundstage 8.4. Not bad.

What's a decent pair of IEMs under 30 bucks?
Using the AKG Y20U right now and they're pretty decent but I haven't tried many so can't tell if they actually are.

>>61237316
I was looking into these as well. I realized the stuff I needed was dirt cheap so I'll try my own diy version of these too.

>>61237227
Sennheiser's are decent but overpriced. I think the standard /hpg/ recommendation for headsets right now is a SHP9500 with a BoomPro.

>>61222356

What do you guys think of lowless music as opposed to mp4?

>>61237381
How the fuck do you measure soundstage?

>buy bluetooth headphones with mic for use on the go
>want to use it with laptop as well when watching youtube/movies with GF when we are apart
>fucking low-quality audio when mic is active

what fucking jewery is this? Bluetooth should have enough data throughput to stream high-quality audio whilst recording mic. What kind of arbitrary limitation is this shit?

>>61237421
Bluetooth headphones can't transparently reproduce lossy audio anyways so I don't know why you'd buy them in the first place if you care about sound quality.

>>61237283
>>61237394
Any recommendations on other brands? HyperX has good sound/mic quality and is pretty cheap
havent used much Steelseries/Razer
Logitech I know is trash

>>61237397
Studies suggest that 192 kbps mp3 is transparent and indistinguishable from lossless in blind tests. The threshold for Opus is likely significantly lower.

>>61237442
Razer are trash, period. Steelseries are a bit better than other gaming companies, but you should still get a decent non-gaming can and not "the least evil" gaming ones.

>>61237409
By clicking on "read more about..." you get http://www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-quality/soundstage which covers that.

>>61237478
Lmao. You can't measure something that isn't real ;)

>>61237444
>Studies suggest that 192 kbps mp3 is transparent and indistinguishable from lossless in blind tests.
Wasn't that 128kbit/s? :^)

No, seriously, hydrogenaudio done plenty of testing. mp3 isn't transparent, not even at 320.

>>61237490
Yet it can be measured, so it's a magnitude, and therefore real.

>>61237442
If you really are set on getting a gay headset:
>Razer = Baby boy's first chink shit
>Steelseries = Breaks after 6 months
>Astro = Shitty mic quality
I hear Kingston makes decent headsets, but I can't confirm that.

>>61237494
>No, seriously, hydrogenaudio done plenty of testing. mp3 isn't transparent, not even at 320.
Gib links.

>>61237435
Cause wireless, plus audio quality is good enough when mic isn't active.

>>61237442
Any headset is going to be overpriced for its sound quality, any brand. If you absolutely insist on paying out the ass for inferior sound quality look into reputable audio brands like Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic and Audio Technica, all of whom I'm aware make headsets.
That being said, just get a fucking SHP9500 and a BoomPro and be done with it.

>>61237603
>that guy who joins skype/discord with a shitty "attach to headphones" mic yet claims it is good

Happens way too often. Thank god discord has a volume-slider for individuals so that you can just fucking mute them or put them at 10% so that their shitty mic isn't super distracting.

>>61237582
Try https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,72542.0.html
As always it depends on the sample. But if there's samples for which it is known to be non-transparent at a given bitrate, then the codec is, obviously, not transparent at that bitrate.

>>61237637
Look up BoomPro on Youtube for sound quality demonstrations. It seems to be a quality product.

>>61237442
logitech g930

>>61237649
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,72395.0.html
Huh. In the future I'll phrase it as "192 kbps mp3 is generally transparent in most circumstances." Thanks for that.
The new version of Opus needs to be thoroughly blind tested.

Well I finally did it /g/urus.

I posted in the last thread about my DT 770's finally starting to fail me where my cord/headphone connection was getting screwy. I ordered the Sennheiser HD 600 and pulled the trigger just a minute ago. Can't wait to try them out.

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>>61237782
>two anons' Beyer cords failing in the same place in the same thread
Beyer shills on suicide watch.

>>61237809
>Implying it isn't another failed attempt at >>61222566

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Need IEM
Something I can jog comfortably with
$100 USD budget

Any recommendations?

>>61237825
>.01 cent has been deposited into your account, Venkatanarasimharajuvaripeta

>>61237782
If you're not going to repair your 770's send them to me, always wanted to try out 770's for muh high quality african-american low end experience.

>>61237825
Nope I'm not >>61222566

I used DT770s, to be fair they are 3.5 years old, and the recent damage to the connection isn't unbearable, just slightly annoying at times.

>>61237137
I would think like 1.5 meters or so. The Tennmak uses MMCX so you can get any other MMCX cable of a different length.

>>61237837
>>61222566
>Still no proof anon wasn't false flagging
Lmao. Ok, shlomo.

>>61237836
Imho don't invest into expensive IEMs for sport/gym, it's not worth it. You're not critically listening anyways so why bother? Get Rock Zircon (there's a sport version of those) and buy a new pair when they fall apart.

Are Marshall Major 2 any good for 55$?

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>>61237915
Idk

>>61237967
>compensated
What website is that from?

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>>61237995
Rtings. This one's from their official website.

>>61237751
>is generally transparent in most circumstances
Reads as "not transparent" and definitely unsuitable for archival.
Where low bitrate makes sense... opus. Because mp3 compares pretty unfavourably.

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>>61238014
Niggerbass compensation curve attached.
>>61237967
Niggerbass.

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>>61238070
Last one from http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/marshall-major-ii.php. Just for you, bby ;)

besides the HD6XX, K7XX, and the TH-X00

is there anything else from Massdrop that's a fantastic value? I'm tempted for the TH-X00 but making it have detachable cables sounds like a pain since it involves soldering.

>>61238096
I wish this website would post their compensation curve.

Idol trash goes to sleep.
May your soundstage be wide and your imaging good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otr-DgB64JQ

>>61238120
There's literally no other graphs, so take what you will about the headphones. They don't seem that bad for $50 portable headphones, I guess.

>>61237995
>>61238014
>>61238070
>>61238096
Stupid question but what's it with all the compensated and xy smoothed octave frequency response curves?
I read that it is the perceived loudness compensated, so how humans hear it but what's the difference betweent all the different attempts?

>>61238172
New thread.

>>61238178
Different dummy heads/couplers will need different compensation curves. Furthermore, each website will likely have their own philosophy as to what a good sounding curve is.

>>61238111
There's an anon here that modded detachable cables on his X00's. He may be lurking but it happened.

>>61238203
>each website will likely have their own philosophy
This is what i don't get. Isn't there some standardized way to do things? If everything is relative due to equipment and personal preference, why bother with measurements in the first place.

>>61238261
>Isn't there some standardized way to do things?
There isn't an ideal one, in my opinion. The "standard" diffuse field curve sounds too bright IMO and the Harman target sounds too dark IMO. I personally prefer something like the Harman target with flat bass instead of boosted bass, which is basically an ER-4S.

>>61238252
yes it's possible but it involves soldering, I don't have the skill or equipment right now and I certainly don't want to ruin $400 headphones because it's my 1st soldering job.