/hpg/ - Headphone General

Is there any audible difference between DAC X6 and Schiit stack?

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Help me decide /g/

E-Mu Teak, Fostex TH-X00, or HE-500 (used)

Best earbuds to buy that aren't super expensive, have great sound quality and don't dig into ears?

>>61210060
It's hard to answer this without objective measurements of both, but probably not.

>>61210066
X00 for that clean nigbass.

>>61210076
Would shallow-insertion IEMs be OK? Earbuds typically completely lack bass.

How do you know if your headphones are underpowered?
Does an amp only increase loudness or does it increase signal strength?
(Those are 2 seperate things, right?)

>>61210103
>How do you know if your headphones are underpowered?
They don't get loud enough. That's it.

>>61210100
That would be fine.

>>61210140
What's your price ceiling?

>>61210066
Wood is generally a poor choice of materials for headphones as it's generally more resonant than polymers.

I'm not sure what else to get. my SHURE SRH840 is a few years old and working fine but it might kick the bucket any time.

what should I get as a precautionary replacement? studio monitoring, musician.

>>61210151
$120-130USD

>>61210190
The thing that almost always breaks on headphones is the cable. Yours has a detachable cable so I wouldn't worry about it breaking.

>>61210282
actually, SHURE SRH840s are kind of notorious for having the plastic hinges break after a while. Mine broke and I had to use some plastic epoxy to fix it.

yeah it still works, I like it, and I'm blindly brand loyal to SHURE now but I'm just curious what else I can get.

>Budget
Anything below $300
>Location
Canada or USA(can ship them to family)
>Source
Audio Jack
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very important.
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones

>>61210294
>are kind of notorious for having the plastic hinges break after a while
Oh, like DT770/880/990.

AKG Q701. Wonderful open air headphones. Remove the bassport seal if you want nigbass. 190 on eBay.

Ath-50 if you want a sealed can. Great sound for around 110.

>>61210301
>closed
>neutral
Good luck.

>>61210406
K612 > Q701/K702
ATH-M40x > ATH-M50x

>listening to harman curve equalized cans after years of flat bass only
Feels dirty, man.

>>61210339
To snap or not to snap; the headband or the hinges. That is the question.

>>61210301
DT250.

>>61210514
Fuck, I completely forgot about the DT770's underappreciated, vastly superior cousin. Yeah, get those.

Hello /hpg/ I want to buy over ear headphones which don't require an amp sound good and are reasonably priced.

What is /g/ approved other than Ath-m50x

>>61210558
>M50X
>/g/ approved

>>61210558
SHP9500 or HD558

>>61210558
Need more info than that

>>61210568
OK but what is /g/ approved?
My budget is =< $150
>>61210571
>shp9500
I'm not buying Philips shit
>hd558
I will look into this.
>>61210588
What info do you need?

>>61210558
HM5

>>61210558
M50 has not being /g/ approved fora few years now, Anon.
Anyway, try to fill the form on Op, it helps given suggestions, also, be aware that we are getting massive shitposting latelly, so just write down any models people might recomment here and go research on them for yourself, otherwise you will get caught in a "it's perfetct/it sucks hard" cycle.

>>61210595
Open or closed and sound signature help.

>>61210595
>not buying Philips shit
What's with the hate? X2 was pretty popular around here not long ago.

>>61210595
>>61210621
>>61210621
More info
Budget
=<150
>Location
Sent ;)
>Source
??
>Type of headphone
Over ear headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High for lots of usage and long listening sessions
>Sound signature
Neutral?
>Past headphones
First fair. I also own a MEEAUDIO M6 Pro which I swear by

>>61210410
Er4s

the isolation on these is better than bose's top of the line model from my personal experience (using triple flange tips)

>>61210040
>/hpg/ hates the DT 880
Eh, I've had mine for years anyway. Should I just trade them in for the HD 600? Anyone else with experience with both? I'm kinda in the mood for something different anyway.

>>61210658
Spend $50 more on DT250 80 ohm.

>>61210658
Closed senn 598 cs or DT770

>>61210658
>>Location
>Sent ;)
>>Source
>??
>>Comfort level
>High
>>Past headphones
>Ear dildos
You sound like a newfag normie cuck. At least tell us your location and your source, anon.

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>>61210683
Had experience with both, what do you want to know exactly?
Don't take that "/hpg/ hates X" seriously though, lot's of shitposting here lately.

>>61210683
Depends on what you like; they're pretty much polar opposites.

>>61210683
HD600 are a lot more accurate. If you do go that route listen to them a lot until you get used to them. Any new headphones may sound wrong if you're used to one headphone too much.

>>61210694
No amps pls n thnxs
>>61210696
Pretty pricey shit anon
>>61210707
I have a entry level chinkshit dap that can also act as a DAC so that's what I plan to use as my main listening device

>>61210744
DT250 80 ohm won't require an amp. The 250 ohm ones will. They're the only closed headphones I can think of close to your price range which are both neutral and extremely comfortable.

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Where can I get some of these?

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anything with similar nigger bass levels to the v-moda m100?

>>61210722
What's your personal preference and why?
>>61210724
I'm one of those joyless idiots to listens to everything, I've always leaned toward the more neutral stuff. DT 880s are about as flat and boring as people said when I was reading reviews, but that's what I like. I've been leaning toward more fun headphones lately though, I've heard the HD 600s were warmer so I wanted to try it.
>>61210729
Okay thanks

>>61210744
>DT 770s
>>$150
At least we now know you don't live in America. Now tell us your country; not your exact fucking location.

>>61210780
Stop trying to help that piece of shit.

>>61210766
If you really want to warm headsets, bump it up to the HD650. HD600's are known for neutral and not warmness

>>61210696
HD 598 Cs are garbage closed-back headphones. Would not recommend.

>>61210759
Hell?

>>61210790
IMO, all closed/neutrals are garbage at the price range, but he wants closed.

>>61210789
Forgot about those, thanks

>>61210788
Fucking summerfags make me angry

>>61210762
>Wanting messy bassy ever
DT770/Custom Studios
TH-X00
Both of these are so much better. X00 being a lot bassier while being detailed.

>>61210766
>What's your personal preference and why?
My main headphone is a DT880, i like how the extra treble makes easier to spot some problems in a recording, makes it easier to fix them (one of the reasons i like the V6 too), i also find the bass to be more pleasing than on the HD600, sounds a bit closer to what i like when i'm the one playing (to be honest i think headphones don't do justice to bass, but it's good enough).
I wouldn't mind having a HD600 as main headphone though, they are closer to neutral overall and the warmish signature is less fatigating, also, imho DT880 has a larger stage but HD600 has better imaging, i find the later more appealing.

Bottom line: try to test it somewhere, if you like what you hear there's no reason not to go for it, both are pretty good can't go wrong either eay.

can we stick to one goddamn thead for once

>>61210875
What do you mean, Anon? There are only two threads right now and the other one is already dying.

>>61210875
We traditionally start a new thread when the old one hits bump limit.

>>61210875
Butthurt Sennheiser shill made another thread 20 mins late, claiming the other to be a troll thread. His thread still didn't make a difference on shitposting in the end, but at least the got to make his own special /hpg/ thread.

>>61210858
Alright, if you're mentioning warmness on the HD 600 and love the neutral sound too then I might stick to the 600 instead of the 650. Sounds like the move I was looking for, thanks.

>>61210956
According to measurements the HD650 is much warmer, not sure if that's what you are looking for, can't speak much about the HD650 though, never tested it, but i'm glad that it helped to some extend.

>>61210956
You'll find the HD600 warm enough if you're used to the DT880. The HD650 is too warm.

>>61210956
>>61211002
>>61211034
Highly recommend you find a place where you can test both headphones to see what you like more.

>>61211062
Agreed.

>>61211062
This. /hpg/ is fun and all, but it isn't a place I would look for suggestions with expensive headphones.

>>61210683
It's just shitflinging. HD600 and DT880 are very similar, the DT880 just has less upper midrange and is brighter. It's nice how so many headphones exist with so many different signatures. While the HD600 might be neutral, those who want more treble detail will opt for the DT880.

>>61211157
Excessive treble =/= detail

>>61211204
Recessed treble doesn't help either ;)

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Looking to upgrade from my Fiio E10k, I heard the OBJECTIVE2+ODAC is pretty good. What are your recommendations : I have a pair of DT770 300 ohms and soon a pair of HD6XX from Massdrop. I'm also not looking to go crazy, maybe like 150$ to 300$

>>61211281
The E10k is demonstrably transparent as a DAC. You do not need to upgrade in the DAC department. If you want more volume/headroom run the E10k's line out into a Magni 2.

>>61210040
Why don't you niggers just buy a pair of $1000 headphones and free yourself constantly fighting whatever sub $250 shit is the best

>>61211335
That would mean literally no shitposting

>>61211335
Because the HD600 are the best full-sized headphones in the world at any price.
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044

>>61210066
Had teaks
Used they're pretty hard to find, new they're expensive and have little to no customer support
The TH-X00 are going to be much easier and cheaper to buy used, fostex also has infinitely better customer support than E-MU.
With that said, I wouldn't recommend the platform. I have a pair of LCD-3s, and planar bass is so much better than what the teaks/TH-X00 have to offer. I've never had Hifiman, but I've heard bad things about their company. I've heard similar things about audeze, but at least mine have a 3 year warranty.
Hope I helped.

>>61211335
>>61211355
Eh? See what I mean? Literally no shitposting!

>>61211355
And i have the biggest dick in the world

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I have an HD600 running out to a Schiit Uber 2 amp while using a Fiio E10K as the Dac. Is there a point or audible difference in upgrading the dac so I can stay schiit with schiit?

>>61211469
Zero point at all. E10K is accurate enough as a DAC where any technical improvements will be inaudible.

>>61210790
It's not bad, but the isolation isn't the greatest.

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-598-cs

>>61211469
I don't think you can use the E10K as just a dedicated DAC. I think you're running two amps through your audio chain

What's the best solution for powering both headphones and speakers with the same device?

>>61211505
AV receiver with optical/HDMI input.

>>61211281
http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

It would cost you a bit more than $300, but it's worth it to get something future-proof.

>>61211569
That's what I'm running right now, and I've heard people say that HDMI gives the best quality but I fucking hate how it makes me output a second monitor I don't want to use. Is there any way to only get audio over HDMI? I'm pretty sure there isn't, but that's my only problem with my current solution and I'm autistic enough to want to change it.

>>61211505
PS Sprout, TEAC AI-101DA, SMSL AD18, Emotiva Audio BasX A-100

>>61211503
E10K has a line out.

I just want a pair of headphones for my PC, my old pair broke. Just for gaming and talking, preferably good quality sound and voice. PS4 if it works otherwise don't care. Around the 50 euro mark I guess.

Any recommendations?

>>61211642
I see, my mistake.

>>61211645
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/PC-Headsets/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4-Mac-Mobile/B00JJNQG98

>>61211697
hmm bit pricey but thanks anyway anon

>>61211756
That is the absolute only one I can recommend in that price range. You should try checking to see if you can get it cheaper than that on ebay

>>61210301
MDR 7506, K553, HM5, M40X

>>61210762
th-x00 purpleheart

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00LP3AMC2/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

E10K for $36? This might not be legit, but I thought it would be worth mentioning

>>61211221
HD600's treble is perfectly on point with harman's target curve. It's the best treble response I've heard on any full sized headphone.

>>61210060
Some reviews claim the DAC-X6 sounds warmer.

>>61211281
O2+ODAC hasn't been relevant in years, especially since you have to pay extra to configure it to be less retarded and the designer is kill so they're stuck with the design due to copyright.

>>61211895
>REDLANFU
>Just Launched

I wouldn't do it.

>>61212079
Me neither. It could be counterfeit.

From last thread: Any recommendations for a mic to use with my Panasonic HTX-7 for gaming?

>>61212184
ModMic if you want something good quality, but they're not cheap

>>61212184
I use a Zalman mic and it works well enough.

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>>61212184
Don't get a modmic, it's overpriced. Get a cheap lapel mic, this sounds great for half the price.

I have the MTH-M40X right now, and I like the way they sound but was thinking about upgrading to the HD600. Is the sound quality a noticeable step up from the M40X? I'm going to mostly be using them for listening to music.

>>61212393
How long is the cable? Lavalier mic cables are usually pretty short because they're usually plugged into a radio in your pocket.

>>61211281
How do you like your E10k anon? Im considering buying one, but the opinions on it are polar opposites depending where i look. I dont want to spend money on something that wont make a difference.

My laptop only has on headphone/mic jack. Will using one of these affect the quality of my HD600? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUX-Male-to-2-Dual-Female-Audio-Jack-Headphone-Mic-Splitter-3-5mm-Cable-Adapter-/172498537178?var=&hash=item2829b6cada:m:m0HjAP2zZRxFe1uZRjAzU9A
Currently saving up for a dac/amp but need something in the mean time.

>>61213051
Your laptop's headphone jack is prolly already lacking current for HD600, Splitting it will make it worse, yes.
Also there's the quality issue. I once got a chink made y-adapter that straight up doesn't work.

>>61212942
I'm not him, but do you actually need something portable? I recommend one of these if it's for desktop use: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=120&cp_id=12008&cs_id=1200801&p_id=11567#

>>61210060
I have a x6 an I love it i got it cheap like 50$ it's best dac under 100$. X6 is so close to schiit so if you don't have or don't wanna pay more pick it

How good are beyerdynamic dt 990 are they close to 880 or it's better to save money for 880

Do the NAD VISO HP50s have good isolation? Also, how do they compare in audio quality to other closed headphones?

>>61213551
If you need good isolation, get an HD 380 Pro. I've never heard of whatever that thing is before.

>>61213409
880's are more analytical, 990's are more fun, both are good.

>Budget
max €200
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
PC & Phone
>Type of headphone
Over ear
detachable cable (I somehow break my cable every few months)
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
good enough to wear all day long with no discomfort
>Sound signature
Neutral, I guess. For general usage, music, games etc.
>Past headphone
Razer Orca, these were very comfortable for me, so something that wears similar.

>>61210683
Just buy something more expensive like HD700 or even get the T1. Or get a TH-X00 or even a Ultrasone with similar price if you just want something different. HD600 doesn't differ much with DT880.

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Hello, /g/, /fit/ here. Could you recommend some good earphones for workouts? I have an android phone if that matters.

>>61210066
Teaks if you can get them, X00 if you cant. HE-500 are an entirely different beast.

>>61213904
did he dive in poo?

>>61213904
Beats by Dre Studio Pro Wireless

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>>61214024
there was too much poo on the way to the loo

Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

>>61214249
>this pasta again

Any love for the R2R dac?

>>61214565
just another audiophool meme, like multibit for example

>>61212051
And why is that? It's still much more relevant than Schiit and it's shills.

>>61214643
Try reading the post before you write your stupid reply.

I bought some takstar Hi2050s. Clamp is super low, basically non-existant. How can I increase it?

>>61214678
Head'n'hifi.

>>61210060
There is no audible difference between any dac, perhaps with the exception of noise. Don't let any audiofool tell you otherwise.

>>61214588
But DIY headphone amplifier designer Kevin Gilmore have some optimistic comments...

https://www.head-case.org/forums/topic/12940-the-state-of-dacses/

BTW, Pi3 + Dynalo + HD650, the sound is great.

>>61214780
I know, but amplifiers can be different and without full measurements it's hard to pick one.

>>61214803
>Which chipses tend to sound best?
Stopped reading there.

What's a decent desktop dac/headphone amp that also has RCA outputs? And ideally isn't absurdly expensive

>>61214927
DAC-X6

>>61214946
Is the NuForce uDAC-3 any good?

I'm using AKG K271 MKII's

>>61214588
So is driving headphones with balanced circuit?

>>61214839

Ahh, don't really know what you think, but it's about digital signal converting to analog signal on the dac stage, right?

Does the precision not matter in the convertion process?

I mean that is where the distortion generated, then the distorted signal will go to your headphone...

>>61215108
yes, unless you're running very long cables to actually get any benefit from it

>>61214688
thicker earpads?

I am a bit interested to have it as a companion to my existing Antelope Zodiac DAC and Fostex TH-900, but is the "active balanced ground driving" a meme?
http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/classic.htm
http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/grounds.htm

>>61210040
I have a Xiaomi Hybrid Pro (Triple driver with Graphene) whose wires I accidentally stepped on and now it's broken. Should I buy another one or do you have recommendations for IEMs less than $50 that has better bang per buck?

>>61215580
https://audiobudget.com/product/KZ/ZS5

https://audiobudget.com/product/Xiaomi/HybridPro

Is the headband on the K612 really that bad?

>>61214927
Topping A30 and D30.

>>61210040
Should I buy the ATH-M50X if I'm at the ~$150 range?

>>61215925
absolutely not

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>>61214565
I have one but it's kind of old.

http://www.parasound.com/vintage/dac1600.php

>>61215974
What do you recommend if not the ATH-M50X?

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The Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless is the best pair of headphones on the market. Prove me wrong.
>Bass
>Fashion
>Wireless
Can Sennheiser even compete?

>>61215645
Just ordered the ZS5. Thansk.

I just figured out the best life hack I have not seen posted here or anywhere else ever.

Use sticky lint roller to make headphones look like brand new and super clean

>>61216099
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-SR-Open-Back/dp/B06WRMZZ45/

https://www.amazon.com/BeyerDynamic-Premium-Special-Version-717258/dp/B01MXR65M6

or cheaper:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-audiophile-over-the-ear-headphones-titan/1700513.p?skuId=1700513

>>61216229
>Can Sennheiser even compete?
They snap much better.

>>61216229
no

>>61216099
Closed options:
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Custom-Studio-Beyerdynamic-Headphones/dp/B00OAR8VUA

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54

>>61216368
>>61216327
Thanks. You're awesome. I'll try those out when I go to the headphone store this weekend.

>>61216411
Some things to look out for:

598/558, quite neutral, rolled off treble
880, neutral, bit of treble emphasis (some people don't like this)

Custom Studio (aka better DT 770) - V shaped with emphasized bass though you can change this with the sliders. "Fun" sounding headphone.
M40X - neutral

>>61215344
>"active balanced ground driving"

Sounds like a fancy word for active ground. It's a bit like balanced drive ie. 4-channel for headphone: in theory there are advantages of such configuration but in real-life listening the positives are probably negligible.

I've built my share of 2-channel, 3-channel and 4-channel DIY amps and my experience is if the design is good then it's hard to tell the difference among them.

>>61214803
Dynalo is a good design. In a previous meet my relatively simple build was preferred by attendees against a much more expensive Schiit Ragnarok. They said it's more neutral and smoother.

Both Kevin Gilmore and Ti Kan are top-tier amp designers. Most, if not all, of their designs are end-game material.

>>61212431
>Is the sound quality a noticeable step up from the M40X?
Yes. It's significantly more accurate and going from closed to open is a huge step up.

Whats a good cheap pair of Bluetooth headphones I can walk around in my room and listen to podcasts on?

>>61213409
They're both dogshit with no mids and too much treble.

>>61213755
DT250 80 ohm

>>61217119
>compared to sennheisers no bass AND no treble

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>>61216445
>bit of

I've got a pair of MDR-V6s with a busted cable. I want to put a 2.5mm (should require less, perhaps zero at all, drilling to fit) female jack inside to make it have a detachable cable. Which kind would be best for this use?:
http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/_/N-778ct?Keyword=2.5mm+female&FS=True

>>61217155
>look mom i'm shitposting on a nordic rune carving for again
>mom.. attention please.. MOOOOM
At this point i just want to look in your autistic NEET face and laugh.

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>>61217130
"No."

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>>61217155

>>61217247
It's time that you switched to Beats by Dr. Dre.

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>Good civilized conversation about differences between HD600 and DT880 yesterday
>CG failed clone wakes up
>it's another obvious shitposting festival

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I just attempted to EQ my Sony XBA-H1 iems for a neutral sound. My process was to add and remove decibels based on pic related FR until the line would be more or less straight.
Suprisingly it sounds better to me than they do with out any EQ but at the same time I'm sure it's not this simple. Is there anything I should be aware of or anything I did incorrectly with the EQ settings?
Also these things are wonderful for modern trance music. They have all the speed of armature drivers with the low end of dynamic because it has both.

If I don't want to be deaf when I'm older, what are good practices for headphone listening?
ie
>volume
>open/closed
>time
>wear

Ken Rockwell on the DT 880:
The Beyer DT 880 is the best dynamic headphone I've ever heard, regardless of price.

It is a favorite among professional recording engineers for its accuracy, and a favorite among music lovers for its clean, open, uncolored and faithful-to-the-concert-hall sound. I greatly prefer this Beyer DT 880 to the far more expensive Sennheiser HD 800.

I'd be happy with these as my only sound reproducer for the rest of my life. They sound much better than Ultrasone Edition 8 and Sennheiser HD800. The Stax are better and in a class by themselves, but require special power supplies. The DT 880 have no rough edges sonically or mechanically.

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>>61217359
What a cuck.

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I was thinking of getting these - https://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Hybrid-Memory-Foam-Earpad/dp/B00ZGGG3KY/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1499186137&sr=8-9&keywords=Headphone+earpads
- since pic related makes my ears hurt like hell. I have a trip coming up, so comfiness is of the utmost importance. Should I buy it G?

>>61217372
>I have to dislike what other people like

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>>61217280
I made another attempt but this time instead of bringing all the frequencies down to flat I've brought them all up to highest point which is about 100hz. This sounds good too but I'm not sure if it's all that different from the previous settings. I remember reading somewhere that you should EQ low shit up instead of high shit down.
Once again, just looking for feedback here from anyone with experience EQing.

>>61217404
Click the button with a wavy green line it. That'll bring up a graph for direct comparison.

>>61217423
Thank you, this is great. EqualizerAPO is such incredible software.

>>61217374
Yeah, it'd be worth it I think. But that headphone is so cheap that you may as well just buy a new pair

>>61217981
>maybe after 1000 hours of beyer vs senn shitposting i'll come up with a new meme
Keep trying Anon, eventually you will get over the recicled stuff.

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>>61217404
>I remember reading somewhere that you should EQ low shit up instead of high shit down.
It doesn't really make a difference as long as you do preamp compensation properly. The end result, after preamp compensation, will always be that you're only EQing things down.
EQ'ing the bass and mids to GE's compensated graph won't give you a neutral sound. It'll give you a bass-boosted, Harman target like sound. If you want a neutral sound EQ to this graph instead, ignoring the target line for 20 Hz - 750 Hz. EQ the bass down so it's flat from 20 Hz to 750 Hz.
You can use the graph you posted in >>61217280 to EQ the 750 Hz - 20 kHz response, but you'll need to do fine-tuning with Sinegen as described by https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones#SineGen because GE's measurement doesn't take into account your own unique ear canal resonances.
Also, Room EQ Wizard's GUI is superior (but has a higher learning curve) to Peace GUI for creating Equalizer APO settings. File menu > export > export filter settings as text in REW exports config files that Equalizer APO can read. Be sure to set "Equalizer" (upper right) in REW's EQ window to "Generic."

>>61217404
>>61218056
Also, if you have the latest Equalizer APO release, view menu => Analysis panel in the configuration editor is super useful. The "Peak gain" thing on the left tells you if you're clipping or not, and by how much. Simply adjust the preamp until "peak gain" reads -0.1 dB to prevent clipping.
If you decide to give REW a try, which is worth it because it can generate more precise filters than Peace, to load the config files it generates in EAPO configuration editor simply click the green + add filter button, select control > include then browse to the config file REW generated, then use analysis panel to set the preamp properly.

>>61218123
>which is worth it because it can generate more precise filters than Peace
I take this back after playing around with Peace (which I haven't done for a while) but it's still possibly worth it because you can work with 20 filters at a time instead of 13.

>>61218363
You can add filters to peace.

>>61218394
I was just playing around with it right now and it wouldn't let me add more than 13.

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>>61218406
Strange, it's not adding sliders for me either. But it certainly used to.

I get the feeling that I blew up my m40's. I hear a near unnoticeable crackling sound through my audio. How can I verify that this is actually the case so I can RMA them?

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how many of you use a stack of shit?

>>61219070
http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php

Try the bass shaker test.

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>>61219092
I use a spread of schiit instead.

>>61219098
Odd, there's no distortion in the bass shaker test. The 10kHz sine sweep was also fine.
Thanks anyway. I guess I'm going insane...

>OB-1 55$
>CB-1 79$
JUST

>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada (Amazon Preferred)
>Source
Audio Jack (Phones and shit)
>Type of headphone
Earbuds (I currently used apple ones)
>Open or closed
Closed (I'm assuming)
>Comfort level
Very important.
>Sound signature
I don't know what this is. Balanced?
>Past headphones
Apple earbuds, Bose ones which went around my ear, Seinheiser HD598 DR

Need a new daily everywhere (work and gym) earbud. $100 cad or there abouts max. Amazon preferred.

>>61219070
You might have a hair on the driver. Also, are you using any EQ/bass boost/treble boost settings?

>>61219092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpaCINFOQ4 obligatory

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>>61219092
Me. Me. Me.
And I love my shit stack.

>>61219565
dead link

>>61219092
>buying Schiit

ODAC+O2 Master race here.

>>61219559
I removed the earcups and I did notice some stray hairs near the driver. I carefully blew some air over the drivers and hopefully the crack is gone now.
No software or hardware EQ. My audio sources are a Fiio e10k and the internal sound card of my laptop.

Hello /g/uru's.

I've recently started having trouble with my DT 770's where the wire connecting to the headphone seems to have gone slightly bad since whenever it moves I get an annoying static noise, so I'm in the market for new headphones.

I've essentially worn Closed all my life, but I'm open to trying out Open.

Budget is 150-250 USD, a plus would be having the ability to jack in a new line to the headphones so I dont run into this issue again.

>>61219754
DT250 80 ohm

>>61219754
Definitely don't get a beyer again; Go for something different this time around.
Stretch to $280, get HD600 from Amazon now.
Very good sounding, durable, modular, all replacement parts available.

>>61219754
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Custom-Studio-Beyerdynamic-Headphones/dp/B00OAR8VUA

>he didn't buy the DT 770 with detachable cable

s m h

>>61215995
Wow, support HDCD decoding.

Audio technology is still evolving, now it's the time for sacd/dsd, bluray audio.

Thinking of replacing my SuperLux HD 668B.

Would the Sony MDR-7506 be a good choice?
Would they be good to use on my phone too?

(I don't really know the differences between open and closed backs)

>>61219898
>dsd meme
No.

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Just ordered HD600's, currently using a Fulla 2 & Sony MDR-V6's.

>>61219943
Well, Carole King - Tapestry dsd multi-channel release is quite good.

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>>61177264
Guy who measured and EQ'd HJE120s the other day here. I wasn't aware until I added my filters to Rockbox that Rockbox's latest release allows for Q values down to 0.1 now. It used to be limited to 0.5. With this in mind, bass correction for these becomes much simpler: 30 Hz, -10 dB, Q 0.1. That's it. This produces the attached bass response, which is now superior to my previous results.
This means you can now EQ the HJE120 with a mere three Rockbox filters: the above bass filter and two treble peak removal filters which you'll need to listen to Sinegen to configure for your individual ear canals. An additional low shelf filter with values of gain 6 dB, Q 0.7, cutoff frequency 100 Hz will bring them in line with the Harman target.

>>61220081
Pretty sure it is quite good after converting to sane audio too.
There IS value in DSD releases, as there is with HD and such. The value is getting an alternative master, which possibly sucks less.
It's nothing to do with the technology, which is placebo.

>>61220013
HD600. Good choice.
I wish this guy the best. Hoping his ear damage from beyertreble isn't permanent.

>>61219994
You're in for a load of fun.
My first day was like, I arrive home after work @ evening ~18h, I put them on, and before I realize, it's past 2am and I haven't even had dinner.
They're that good.

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>>61220151
Did you cry?

>>61219616
Must be a country dependent issue. It's just a song called "Fuck Shit Stack," a rather clever and biting parody of hip hop music.

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>>61219921
anyone?

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>>61220151
>Sennheisers
>Side effects may include severe autism and a loss of hunger

>>61215974
new to /g/ why are m50/m50x disliked here? have a pair, biggest con I have to say is the comfort and the material peeling off over time, but over all the sound quality/overall (inside) construction is decent for the price

>>61220223
It would help if you posted the format like >>61219522

Also, go read about closed vs open, sound signatures, etc.

>>61220243
shit sound quality
shit build quality

>>61220243
>new to /g/ why are m50/m50x disliked here?
Niggerbass.

>>61219754
Have you RMA'd them? Don't throw away perfectly fine headphones only because of the cable, this is an issue that can be fixed.
If you liked the DT770's and want open headphones now then try the Fidelio X2.

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>>61220223
Oh wow, that shits tiny.

>>61220243
They were OK when they were cheap, they're not anymore but people just parrot what they heard years ago.

>>61219921
You want to replace open headphones with closed ones? Just get the Philips shp9500.

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>>61220180
Yes, within seconds.
Like a piece of shit audiophile.
The voices of my fav idols felt as if my spine was a string they were playing music with . Literally shaking!
>>61220229
I was autistic to begin with.
>>61220202
It doesn't say the usual "not available in your country", but rather, not available at all. It might be some internal distribution issue, if it works for somebody else than me?
>>61220243
Shit colored AF sound, shit comfort, shit durability, extremely shit (went way up due to popularity) price.
They were never a great purchase to begin with, but right now they're just plain dumb.

well i can safely say i am not a fan of the etymotic hf5s. i don't understand how something can have decent soundstage yet sound muddy at the same time. maybe my ears and brain are broken

>>61220261
true, could you fuck around with the software to improve it though?

>>61220296
Got mine for around 100/130 usd

>>61210040
>dat pic
OP can I give you my ass so that you enjoy fucking it? I love you so much, I was getting super tired of all the shilling for the DT crap. They are legit shittier than my 15 Euro headphones. Also the HD600 is so based. Thank you!

>>61220243
I haven't been on /g/ in years, I bought the M50's back when everyone on here said to buy them. I would guess they dont like them anymore for two reasons.

1. Dark colored sound with accented bass.

2. They blew up in popularity and everyone on /g/ are hipsters.

>>61220096
Interesting, I've spent thousands of dollars on IEMs but none were as comfortable as the HJE120, they've also got low microphonics. The stock sound is okay, not as good as other hidden gems like LG QuadBeat 3, but these are microphonic as hell.

Pretty much an ideal candidate for EQ.

Personally I stick with my ER4SR for portable use.

just a question, would having a DAC add any improvement to the sound quality of the ATH MSR7?

>>61220271
>RMA
They are over 3+ years old from when I ordered them. Warranty is gone.

>>61219815
I looked at the HD600s on Amazon, are they supposed to be hardwired? Or am I missing something and they have a detachable wire?

>>61220638
>I looked at the HD600s on Amazon, are they supposed to be hardwired? Or am I missing something and they have a detachable wire?
Yeah, they have a detachable wire.

>>61220638
>over 3+
Just ask their support then how much a replacement would cost.
>detachable wire
HD600 have a detachable cable but it's proprietary dogshit, as always.

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>>61220418
Contributing more, replaced this shit today, was peeling pretty badly

>>61220690
>proprietary dogshit
lmao the design has been around the 90s

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>>61220694
changed to this, can't really see it, but I replaced the headband with paracord (wrapped it) planning on adding something like this https://i.imgur.com/s8DJ8ul.jpg later, sry for shit cam

>>61220638
>I looked at the HD600s on Amazon, are they supposed to be hardwired? Or am I missing something and they have a detachable wire?
Detachable wire. Detachable everything else. All parts have spares on sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM2Cb0De1Y8
>>61220690
>proprietary dogshit
Choice of HD600, HD650 versions (possibly more), official or third party, many variants to choose from, not expensive.

>>61220702
Doesn't make it less proprietary. They could have gone with standard 3.5mm but they are assholes so they didn't.

>>61220720
What did you expect from the Germans? Everything has to be over-engineered and proprietary, from their cars to even their vacuum cleaners.

>>61220720
>They could have gone with standard 3.5mm
Definitely not a good fit for the purpose.
>but they are assholes
The connector used is pretty simple and appropriate for the purpose. A pull will just disconnect and not damage anything, otherwise they stay firmly in place.
>>61220741
>germans
Could be worse. Like beyer's non-removable cable.

>>61220764
>Definitely not a good fit for the purpose.
Yes it is, standard 3.5mm is always a good choice.
>A pull will just disconnect and not damage anything
So will standard 3.5mm.
>defending proprietary fuckery
Nice fanboy cuckery.

>>61216871
It's not easy to get one though, especially if you want a metal case XD

But I do like its sound.

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Since today is July 4th, let's talk about some American headphones. Forget whatever garbage depth grovelers squabble over in germany for once, what do you guys think about the Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-3?

>>61220884
audiophile placebo trash

hd 600 is endgame

>>61220931
Go mine me some more neoplasmid you retarded depth groveler.

>>61217996
Lmao. Maybe once Sennheiser finally stops recycling the HD 600s.

>>61220884
I have not listened to the LCD-3 or 4, but only the LCD-2 and LCD-X.

The plannar bass is godly for sure, but I personally miss the detail and soundstage that you would expect from open headphones. Headphones like the HD800 do have this detail and soundstage, but lack in the bass compartment compared to plannar. This problem is worse with the LCD-2 than the LCD-X.

Audeze certainly makes fun sounding headphones, but I personally wouldn't buy one because I prefer a different sound signature. You also cannot lean forward while wearing them because they will just fall off your head. I guess it's good if you want to keep up a good posture.

>>61220884
>$3999

I'd spend that much on a Tudor watch, but not for headphones.

>>61221073
I've heard removing the felt improves treble response and perceived detail and soundstage.

>>61220948
the primary objective is for headphones to reproduce sounds accurately, the hd 600 does that and your colored trash audeze do not

>>61221151
>the primary objective is for headphones to reproduce sounds accurately
Maybe for you

>>61221151
Then get speakers you dumb goy. What are you, poor?

>>61221143
Probably, but I couldn't test that because I was listening to retail units.

>>61221179
Fuck off to the speaker thread.

>>61210558
I would try M50 before buying.
I bought online and they pissed me off so much I went and bought a soldering iron and fixed my 15 year old Sony mdr-v6's and use them instead

goodbye $150

>>61221202
Literally laffin' at you right now, you poorfaggot.

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>mfw may have perforated my ear drum after trying to clear out some wax

>>61221151
You should be glad we don't limit this site to pleasuredome only, fucking subhuman. Now where's my fucking neoplasmid?

I'm eyeing the HD600 but something I see people keep mentioning is that they're bad for electronic music due to how they handle bass. But doesn't that depend on what genres you listen to? There's lots of electronic music that isn't particularly bass-heavy. Anyone HD600 owners that listen to a lot of electronic shit that can weigh in on this?

>>61219522
Please help

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>>61221478
idol trash here. I do often listen to Amiga mods and demoscene music in general. The HD600 does so fine.
There's no issue whatsoever with HD600 and electronica. It's just people who like electronica tend to like niggerbass (strong). These headphones are pretty neutral, and if anything have stronger bass than they should, but they still want more. I've found that HD600 responds very well to EQ-ing bass in. It's just... silly to do it, because they're fine as they are, really.

>>61221252
Pics

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>>61221478
>>61221564
>idol stuff has bass too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaeFBIEZ3Hc

>>61221252
That's why you go see an audiologist and get them to do it.

>>61221752
good luck trying to get a timely appointment on the NHS

>>61221929
It's free, you get what you pay for.

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I bought some HD558s for $70, how did I do /g/ee?

My inexperienced ears are quite enjoying them.

>>61221478
I quite dislike the way bass is textured on the HD600. It's sort of like getting hit in the face with a limp noodle if that makes any sense. EQing it up doesn't help much. However, it's not a big deal on songs where the bass doesn't take a front seat which.

>>61211281
The HD6xx won't come until late December anon. So soon is pretty optimistic

>>61222002
Don't judge them before doing the foam mod.

>>61222004
Get an amp.

>>61222079
Have a magni2u.

>>61222004
>t. ooga booga

>>61222088
Get a dac.

>>61222091
Have a modi2u.

>>61222099
Get FLACs.

>>61222117
Have FLACs.
It's the headphones buddy.

>>61222130
Get an ear checkup.

>>61222137
You first.

>>61222144
Why? I'm not experiencing issues.
I'm even quite tanned, and yet I'm not getting niggerbass urges.

>>61222171
Its not an issue, it's a flaw. You can't hear it, maybe you need a checkup.

>>61222090
>>61222144
>>61222171
>Denying their headphone's flaws
Lmao. Sad!

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>>61222171
Get this.

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>>61222079
>>61222090
>>61222091
>>61222117
>>61222137
>anything below 100Hz is nigger bass
>i have to attack people that don't like my muddy veiled headphones
TOPKEK

>>61210040

Finally someone agrees with me on the DT880. All Beyers are horrible headphones to listen to.

>>61222176
>HD600
>Flaws
Maybe you got chinked HD600? I suggest a second pair, as a reference.

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>>61222208
To be fair, only 4 of those are actually me.

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>>61220628
no one gave me an answer

>>61222213
It's the headphones. I'm sorry your about hearing.

>Sennheiser shills literally on suicide watch over one anon who didn't like his pair's bass.
Lmao. So much for """perfect""" headphones.

>>61222226
Only if your current source sucks.
If you think it sucks, I'd suggest something like a Fulla2 (dac+amp), to be sure you're not being chinked by your source.
But most likely, you simply don't like the FR of your MSR7. I'd suggest HD600.
>>61222233
Loss of hearing tends to happen on the higher freqs, not bass.

>>61222250
Seems like you're an exception though. I'd suggest a second pair of ears, as a reference.

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>>61222243
>Lmao. So much for """perfect""" headphones.
Whoever said HD600 are perfect. They're just the closest.
Don't believe me? Try listening to this on HD600.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeh_sxL_ahY
Ultimately, idols are best experienced live. But HD600 isn't so bad.

>>61222266
*Cough*
>>61222213
Of course, i'm sure that anon was just being ironic.

>>61222226
Only if your source is shit. What's your source anyways, shit smartphone or laptop? This can be an issue.

>>61222266
You linking that video makes me hope you get wedgies everyday

>>61222266
hows that maya route treating you?

>>61222288
realtek HD off of a B150 mortar motherboard, and I have no idea desu since before I was plugging my headphones directly into my monitor and using nividia audio with my m50's.

had to plug them into the back of my pc when I got the msr7's to get audio i could hear

*snap*

>>61222002
That's a fantastic value at that price. You did great. The foam mod is frankly unnecessary.

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>>61222297
>You linking that video
No likes? How can you not likes. Idols are adorable by design.
>wedgies
Wasn't a thing when I was in high school. Unfortunately I'm on my 30s already, and apparently can't tell good bass from bad bass anymore.
>>61222322
I'm dancing on the palm of her hand.

>>61222337
*crackle*

>>61222342
>I'm dancing on the palm of her hand.
ill probably play hers after i finish midori. shes way 2pure4me.

>>61222342
>30 year old fat neckbeard idolfag is senn shill #1
Really made me think.

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Yo, I live in a shitty 3rd world country, searched everywhere and everything I find is the sony zx100/300 some philips shit, some overpriced yamaha and the akg k 52, should I go for some sony ones? Anyone has any experience with k52?

New thread: >>61222356

>>61222339
I wasn't sure how "high up" these are. I returned a pair of AKG K52s that I bought a few days prior and spent about $40 more to get these. They were on sale at Best Buy. Glad to know that they are worth it. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be taking them apart anyway.

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>>61222358
>30 year old
A little older unfortunately.
>fat
No.
>neckbeard
No.
>idolfag
Just a little. A healthy amount. Nothing wrong with that. Definitely not excessive.
Let's watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag5FBjf3VKs
>is senn shill #1
Not #1. Perhaps #2? :^)

>>61222330
>I was plugging my headphones directly into my monitor and using nividia audio
Why on earth would you do this anyways?
>had to plug them into the back of my pc when I got the msr7's to get audio i could hear
Sound like a software/driver issue to me. MSR7 have low impedance of 36 Ohm i think, your onboard shouldn't have any problems with this.
Is the volume just low or do you experience some weird noise or some other issue? I have MSR7 too and both my RN3P and chinkpad have no issues with them.
My chinkpad doesn't have the cleanest sound to it and can have random static at times but that's to be expected with old cheapo onboard sound from a laptop.

>>61222330
>>61222400
Your explanations somehow make your audio chain appear really compromised.
Maybe just get that Schiit Fulla2 and call it a day.

>>61222381
They're only slightly less neutral than HD600, the most neutral full sized headphones available.

>>61222385
Suuure. Get a trip faggot.

I need like 10 or 12 line level passive bookshelf size speakers to mount throughout my home. I'd like to spend less than 300 bucks USD.

Any recommendations or should I go to chinkshit general?

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>>61222436
Tripfags are hated even more than idolfags.
How would that help me?

>>61222359
I was lucky to get a pair of philips shp 9500 in mine for a reasonable price. Since the beats everything in here is overpriced shit.

>>61222449
So I can filter you of course.

>>61222400
I did not know that it was a bad idea, and often I find that vocals in music sound a bit too quiet while the instrumentals are loud

>>61222455
Seesh. Selection bias is bad enough as it is.

>>61222467
Just get a trip already, fat fuck.

>>61222467
>>61222476
This interaction is cute. I like this.

>>61222445
>10 or 12 line level passive bookshelf size speakers
>I'd like to spend less than 300 bucks USD
>should I go to chinkshit general?
How is this a question? >>>/csg/

>>61222460
>I find that vocals in music sound a bit too quiet while the instrumentals are loud
Sounds like shit recording, trash in trash out. Or maybe that's how the artist meant it to be, who knows. If you ask me male vocals can be a little underwhelming on MSR7 at times, but female vocals are excellent.

>>61222500
it could be, I just torrent my FLACs off TPB

>>61222460
Maybe its just FR at work, and you'd like something less v-shaped, more neutral?
If vocals seem recessed, it might be because bass and treble are deliberately made forward..

>>61222530
Can you give me an example of which songs sound off to you? I'd like to test them on my MSR7.

>>61222541
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5398387

>>61222577
The Spoils by Massive Attack is one, when I listen to them with my MSR7s plugged into the back the song is much louder but the vocals are harder to hear than what they were on my M50's plugged into the monitor

>>61222577
>http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5398387
Hmm... they're dark, but otherwise, the mids vs the bass seem like it should be alright?
>>61222599
If every output you try sounds different, then you're in serious need of a "reference" source. If you don't have some flagship-ish smartphone (they actually have decent dacs/amps) to test against, I'd seriously suggest getting that Fulla 2.

>>61222632
Yeah, I think I should, at the very least it will save me from having to dick around with the pre amp in my music player when a song is too quiet

>>61222599
To me it sounds normal and not recessed. Maybe your Nvidia audio driver had some kind of voice amplification enabled? I have a Dolby driver on my chinkbook with a setting for VoIP that boosts the sound. Maybe it was enabled all the time, would be kinda funny.

>>61222632
>they're dark
What no. MSR7 are not dark, rather bright. Bass is present and can reproduce everything if needed but it's not overbearing while mids are sweet, especially female vocals. Male vocals are ok but nothing special.

>>61222704
>What no. MSR7 are not dark, rather bright.
That FR is confusing me. It's quite sharp down past 10k somehow.

>>61222704
it could be, I should check

>>61222710
Isn't dark though. The highs are crystal clear. Idk what Audio-Technica have done with the MSR7 but they've done it right. I love those headphones.

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>>61222890
Could be. They don't look shit like m40x and m50x, fr-wise, at least.
I'll listen to them if I get a chance.
Brushed tooth now going to bed for real. Good night Anon.

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>>61222931
>I'll listen to them if I get a chance.
My left nut you'll buy them afterwards, gn8 hun.

at the moment i'm tossing up between the D30 + A30, the DAC-X6 or the Fulla 2

Does anyone have any other recommendations around that price range? this will be my first amp/dac

>>61224027
There's a new thread
>>61222364